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Okay, What Now?

Skins would have had to take Duane Brown at 34 - and I'm guessing their going WR there - because he would not have been there at 48 (sources said the 49ers would have pounced at 39).

Jordy Nelson could be there, but Dallas likely taking some WR coming up.And KC is likely taking a WR at 35.

Also, could end up being good safety value in this round, and though the Skins did not origianlly plan on taking one this high, if Johnson or Phillips slips it may give them pause. I think the Giants take one of those safeties at 31.

And Merling might end up going a few picks ahead of 34 as well ... In which case it's very much looking like a WR.

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 26, 2008; 6:11 PM ET
 
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FIRST POOLMAN 1111

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

FIRST POOLMAN 1111

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

me

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

What Now?!

JLC needs to look for a new job!

Posted by: That's What! | April 26, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Dollars to donuts Zorn wants a QB with one of these 2nds...Brohm is my guess at 48. Heard it here 1st.

Posted by: sephtical | April 26, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

i didnt realize how stupid our fans were. people keep insisting we got 3 2nd rounders. we already had 1. 1 guy thinks 1200 is more than 1300. wtf.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Balmer.

one sock and no shoes.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

You know, if we get to 34 without any WRs coming off the board (unlikely as it may be), I say we pass and see what's left at 48 or 51.

Posted by: Todd | April 26, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Nelson, whatever it takes...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

so much for balmer. he was the guy i wanted all along

Posted by: oops | April 26, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

TOTALLY off topic, but Dwight Howard had EIGHT freaking blocks today.

Posted by: Todd | April 26, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

what good is it to get a #2 WR? we have a nice 2 (1a) in moss and another #2/3 in randal el. what good does getting another good #2 wr do? you need a dominant guy. frankly, it won't be popular, but the only WR that interests me is desean jackson bc the guy is another moss. i know it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have a bunch of midges but at least he's a real weapon.

Posted by: have to ask | April 26, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

dude, you are talking about a bunch of smurfs. The Skins need and BIG WR and there are a few available, this has worked out perfectly and they are going to get a solid big WR.

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Jordy Nelson, Kenny Phillips, Josh Johnson later...

Posted by: get it right | April 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I dont see the need at WR per se, unless we get a big utility guy later. Moss, ARE, and Cooley are enough to be successful. D- Line is clearly a bigger need.

Posted by: sephtical | April 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I like Sweet also but you have a need and good players are available now. You fill it.

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

just draft malcolm kelly and forfeit the rest of the picks. save us any more embarrassment

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I happened to read the latest ESPN magazine which basically says that the former system of valuing picks is INSANE. It came from Jimmy Johnson btw - go figure. They came up with a new system. Their weightings rightly place more value on mid round picks. So how's it all shake out? In terms of point value for pick the Redskins get 3890 points. The Redskins give up 3809 points. All in all it's a "good" deal - not a great deal if you're going to slap generic values on the trade. That said, what makes me MOST happy is that the Skins did NOT do something totally stupid with the #1 pick. We didn't reach for a WR. We didn't reach for Merling. Not reaching I think adds value to the trade frankly. There just wasn't a great value sitting there at #21 - we could afford to trade down and I'm very HAPPY about this.

Posted by: egrib | April 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

i'd love to get Sweed or Kelly at 34....they seem to be the best bets as number 1 receivers....and they both might be there.....i know they have their warts but from the games ive seen em in, theyre the most likely to dominate a game.....

Posted by: FED | April 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The skins need a WR with size because they need to improve their red zone offense. Having a bigger could help in the fade route and slant routes.

Posted by: The answer | April 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

all i can say is im annoyed

Posted by: annoyed | April 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

All of the worthwhile DL players are off the board. The skins can stock up with the remainders in the mid rounds. If Merling is still there, you have to take him, but I doubt he's there.

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

STFU, Assclown.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

As for DE's Merling, C Campbel, Quentin Groves are still there.

Posted by: not quite | April 26, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

3 picks left before skins and everyone is still around...give vinny some credit.

Posted by: svxcountry | April 26, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

What do you think are the odds of Merling dropping to us? All 3 teams ahead of us could draft him (Giants to replace Strahan, Fish cuz all their team sucks, Rams to replace Little).......but what are the odds?

If he drops to 34 than the trade immediately becomes worth it.

Posted by: Praying for Merling. | April 26, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Gotta go DLine, its easy to forget how bad we've been last 2 yrs- we were lucky to stay healthy last yr but the odds of that happening are slim, 2 yrs ago was a disaster.

Posted by: sephtical | April 26, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

So, I'm looking at the SI Draft Tracker. It includes an "SI Grade" on each pick.

You know how this is hard, scientific data? Cause it goes to two decimal places.

For instance, Branden Albert (15, Chiefs) grades out at 3.92.

Clearly much more precise than 3.9, or, God forbid, 4.

Thus far I rate the Redskins draft at 1.87382

Posted by: farstriker | April 26, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Dustin Keller?

I went to Purdue but no way in the first.

Posted by: Steve | April 26, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Jordy Nelson with pick #34 - or else.

Posted by: jcook | April 26, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

worked out well to this point, though some haters want to cast doom and gloom on anything associated with Snyder. Welcome to middle school.

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

why would the giants take merling? safety or linebacker miami, merling is not a 3-4 end, the rams, most likely an o-linemen, merling will be there

Posted by: cgarrisonsr | April 26, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

34 is way too early for Nelson.......

Posted by: Merling all the way | April 26, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Merling if he's available, Jordy Nelson if not. this has worked well

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

The idea of trading down was great. I am just not sure why we had to five both a 3 and a 5 in the deal. If they wanted to move up they should have had to sweeten the deal with us.

Still trying to figure out how Philly pulled off their trade

Posted by: Joe Theeeeeesman | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I do see a Safety, DE, and WR being selected in 2nd Rd. Any of the 3 big WR's can be had w/ 2nd or 3rd pick...Giants pick..............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Going by the ESPN point system we actually traded away 3809 points and received 4630 giving us a +821 or in their system the value of a high 4th round pick.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I'd be stunned if the Giants did not take a safety here. Johnson has been gaining on Phillips in the minds of many. I see one going now.
Miami needs everything at 32 and St. Louis has a ton of holes at 33 - all over the defense - so those are wild cards before the Skins pick.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Merling won't go to ST LOUIS or NYG. Miami is gonna take him, I'm worried.

Posted by: kreitmaster | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

worked out well to this point, though some haters want to cast doom and gloom on anything associated with Snyder. Welcome to middle school.

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:32 PM


thats cause snyder knows less about football than the late female owner of the rams did.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Ok, now that the Jets have picked, we ARE going to have the opportunity to draft one of the players on our board:

Kelly and Sweed are both still in play, as are Merling and Cambell. That said, three of the four COULD go.... but at least one is still there for the 'Skins at 34 at this point.

Posted by: Bill | April 26, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Kenny Phillips

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Good trade!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 26, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Phillips is gone, damn...

Posted by: oh well | April 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I would take Merling or a DB. No WR until third 2nd round pick...

Posted by: BT | April 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Alright, I like Tyrell Johnson better anyway. Thomas, Merling, Sweed, Johnson, Kelly gasp still available.

Posted by: kreitmaster | April 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

So its looking like Merling right?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

don't let Jordy Nelson slip away too. Take him with the FIRST 2nd round pick...

Don't screw this up

Posted by: Nelson now | April 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

SJK ALL ANON POSTERS!!

MAN UP!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 26, 2008 6:28 PM

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Somebody always takes a Miami S. Thanks to the Giants for buying into that trend.

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE TAKE HENNE!!!

Posted by: kreitmaster | April 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Merling if he's available, he's a beast.

Posted by: reality | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas still available?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

who's duane brown

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

working wonderfully, I don't see miami or the rams taking merling, he'll be there

Posted by: cgarrisonsr | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Please, enough with the darned points.

If they pick Moe, Larry and Curly in the second round the points are meaningless.

Posted by: Steve | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

merling, hopefully

Posted by: chris larrY | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Jordy Nelson is not even the best WR available.

Posted by: BT | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

CRAP!!!!!! BYE MERLING

Posted by: CLEGG | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Damn - there goes Merling!

Damn you Vinny!!!

Posted by: Mo (Cleveland) | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Merling to Dolphins.......Way to go Snyder

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Still no WRs taken in the entire draft. Very telling there. Merling now gone. I think he's gonna be a great value pick for Miami. The hernia thing will be over and taken of in the next few months for good, likely, and he can play.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Good luck in Miami, Merling.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Merling gone, that sux

Posted by: Triston73 | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

we end up losing Merling. bad trade!

Posted by: wtf | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

ok, miami ruined it for us

which wr will it be

Posted by: cgarrisonsr | April 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Well we must not have wanted Merling that bad, coulda had him at 21.

Posted by: sephtical | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

great trade now huh. we miss out on merling. now reach for a sh*tty DE idiots

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

dangit, that hurts, I think Tyrell Johnson, then Calais Campbell, then Jordy Nelson would be the ideal series, but there obviously is no guarentee those guys will be around then.

Posted by: kreitmaster | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

dam

Posted by: chris larrY | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey just keep trading down. Why be the first team to take a WR.....

Just keep trading down and maybe we can dominate the 7th round

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Dooped by The Tuna again........ Now it's Devan Thomas or Kelly..... Could Jason Taylor be in the mix now w/ a late trade?

Posted by: CLEGG | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Nelson is the best for the Redskins though... Watch his highlights, read his bio. Fits well.

Posted by: Hey BT | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Calais Campbell will be the skins first pick. Then they go best available WR next.

Posted by: I think | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

f-ing miami, just ruined the draft.

Posted by: crap | April 26, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

this new approach to the draft is exposing what f*ing idiots we have in our front office. THEY CANNOT THINK ON THEIR FEET.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Jordy Nelson is the next Steve Largent - and Zorn KNOWS Largent.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

You don't take a guy with your first pick who's not a 100% We'll see what happens

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I going to trade back....again.

Posted by: Vinny Cerrato | April 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I think it maybe Flowers. A lot of issues at CB.

Posted by: BT | April 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Use pick #48 for Cialis.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Another bit of evidence for how the overall value goes to the skins. Add up the total numbers of where they pick and divide the total by 3.

Skins Get (34+48+103)/3 = 61.6
ATL gets (21+ 84+154)/3 = 86.1

So if you take the average we moved up an average of 24 spots on three picks.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE TAKE JAMES HARDY!

Posted by: S DOT 21 | April 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

OK - here we go...on the clock!

Posted by: Mo (Cleveland) | April 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

maybe we'll now package all 3 of our second round picks for 8 picks in the 5th round. do people not understand that once we get past the third round everybody is a reach or special teams?!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

It has to be a WR here, with ALL of them still on the board, right? And every single one of the top D and O line guys gone?


Ugh. Ugh.


-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Is the power still off at Fedex?

Which is the bigger embarrassment: making a trade down and still having no one to draft or throwing a party without power

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

THOMAS!

Posted by: sephtical | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

WOW!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

The people complaining about this trade are the same people who make noise at FEDEX field when our offense has the ball!! Shut your pie holes!

Posted by: Jdawg703 | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Devon THOMAS!! Yes!!

Posted by: tsvqt | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas

Posted by: skinfanman | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

WR Devin Thomas

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

ROFL, What has Philip Merling ever done?

Oh that's right......NOTHING!

get over it.

Posted by: Yo Mama | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

isn't there someone from Duke we can draft?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Goodbye Betts!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

nice pick

Posted by: marlonjohn | April 26, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I thought for a second Avery was OUR pick. Wheww, I was like "What?"

Posted by: BT | April 26, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Avery and the RAMS just added value to that Skins trade. Thomas at 34th!!!!!! How's that for added value the guy we would've taken at 21 we just got at 34th. WELL DONE BOYS!!!!!!!

Posted by: CLEGG | April 26, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm takin Devin Thomas

Posted by: Vinny Cerrato | April 26, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I like how ESPN hates Washington....The Skins drafted their pick on a commercial and ESPN is still talking about Donnie Avery......

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Has Keyshawn been to East Lansing?

Posted by: BT | April 26, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

THOMAS!!!! Good value!

Posted by: redryan400 | April 26, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

New Thread - beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

great value... would have been ok at 21, but at 34 this is a great pick and a great trade getting the other 2nd round pick (essentially moving up from 3rd rd). i'm pleased. plus, hopefully no chad johnson. which means we got some cap room to do something else creative...

Posted by: sweet | April 26, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Should have taken Jordy Nelson.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 26, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Nelson may have been a better fit as a 3 but thomas has the upside to be a 2 or even 1 down the road. Worth the risk IMO.

Posted by: sephtical | April 26, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

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