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Orakpo named NFC defensive player of the week

Brian Orakpo has been named the NFC's defensive player of the week for his performance Sunday in the Washington Redskins' 34-13 victory over the Oakland Raiders.

Selected with the 13th overall pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, Orakpo has split his time between linebacker and defensive end. He has 11sacks on the season, including four last week at Oakland. Listed on the Pro Bowl ballot as a linebacker, most of his sacks have come as an end.

By Cindy Boren  |  December 16, 2009; 11:02 AM ET
 
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FIRST to say keep rackin' up awards, 'Rak!

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 16, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

And why not? BTW his jersey is flying out of the REDSKINS store in Short Pump. They can't keep them in stock - 'tis the season after all.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 16, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Well deserved and great to see our guy get some credit. Also give Blache some credit for designing plays to get him freed up.

Posted by: Cremins | December 16, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Can we say, "Sackpo"?

Yes we can.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 16, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Was this even a question? 4 sacks in one game - of course he is defensive player of the week.

Even though picking an offensive linemen would have been smarter with the 13th pick, we certainly have one hell of a player in #98. Very fun to watch, and a good, smart guy too.

Glad to see one of our picks actually work out as it is supposed to!

Posted by: whughes1 | December 16, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Good for Orak. Don't forget about the force fumble that Carter couldn't get. lol

Posted by: jm220 | December 16, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

brownwood:

Tried the rule 51 thing with the STEELERS, but I just don't know the personnell to be as certain with them. Came up with 23 including CHARLIE BATCH still on the team after three years. You could be more accurate I'm guessing.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 16, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

anyone know if the giants starting tackle will be playing in this upcoming game? I know he got hurt against philly and didn't come back into the game, I believe...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

only needs 3.5 more sacks to tie the single season rookie record held by Jevon Kearse

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 16, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Carter not picking up that fumble for a TD is indicative of our season. We cannot score on defense. Until that changes, this team, will not be considered good. All the good teams consistently get the breaks and score on defense.

Posted by: FedorEm | December 16, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I don't know Bean, but I think we need AH to win this game...

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 16, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

ORAKPOPHOBIA

Posted by: REXskins | December 16, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"I don't know Bean, but I think we need AH to win this game..."

Mos def here.

And it's time we returned the jints a favor.

For years, they've unleashed their defensive line on us.

This week, let's go after Manning with ours.

I'd also like to see some of the 'bump and run' press coverage techniques the raiders used employed this weekend on the jints young receivers.

The jints can't beat you with just B Jacobs.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 16, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Too bad, though, that he won't make the Pro Bowl.

Or will he?

Posted by: MistaMoe

The team's record won't help anyone, but apparently, Blache has come to realize someone has to trumpet his charge's talent to get them the recognition they deserve.

I'd say Fletcher goes to the pro bowl this year. Carter, maybe.

Posted by: TheCork | December 16, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

It was the Raidahhs.....

But congrats! Thank CWil for knocking Bradkoski out the game....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 16, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

anyone know if the giants starting tackle will be playing in this upcoming game? I know he got hurt against philly and didn't come back into the game, I believe...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

Don't see how Kareem Moore plays--or if he does, how he plays effectively.

That could mean Orakpo goes up against the rookie Beatty on passing downs.

That could help settle the argument on who the 'skins should have picked at 13. I was against Orakpo, based on some games I saw him play for Texas, but I'm a believer now.

I think the team is better off with Levi Jones at OT and Orakpo at DE, than with a rookie OT and, say Jeremy Jarmon. (Instead they got both DEs)

Let's hope a good OT is available this year and the skins have the sense to draft him. In my heart, I suspect Snyder will go "shiny object" and take a QB.

Posted by: TheCork | December 16, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Found my answer, from the Post:

"If the Giants are going to gather themselves for a playoff push in the final three games they will embark on that challenge without right tackle Kareem McKenzie, who has a sprained medial collateral ligament in his left knee and will be out at least two weeks.

McKenzie went down with the injury in the second quarter of the 45-38 loss to the Eagles and did not return. He was replaced by rookie Will Beatty, who now moves into a starting role for Monday night's game against the Redskins"

Mr. Beatty, this is Brian, he'll be running around, over, and through you to the ROY trophy...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Moe now goes by Mos Def?

I'm psyched for this one...as much as I like our current draft pick, I hate HATE HATE the Giants more than anybody and it would be a Christmas treat to knock them out of the playoff race on MNF. Of course, if Dallas continues to lose, the Giants probably will take it anyway.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 16, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

BTW, 'Speed Law' is one of my favorite songs....

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 16, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

bean

"Mr. Beatty, this is Brian, he'll be running around, over, and through you to the ROY trophy..."


Beatty's not a bad player.

But I think Blache will move Orakpo around to confuse the jints' protection.

Again: the jints aren't what they've been.

To quote L Taylor, "Let's just go after them like we're a bunch of hungry dogs!"

Let's do to them what they been doing to us.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 16, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Bean their starting RT McKenzie is out, replaced by Beattie, a rooking out of UConn.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 16, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

moe, beatty ain't no Orakpo....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

moe:

Hideki Matsui and the Los Angeles Angels agreed to a one-year contract worth about $6.5 million on Wednesday

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I would have Orakpo playing DE on the right side as much as possible with Carter manning the left side (he's been no slouch in rushing the passer either). Combination of Haynesworth and Orakpo from the blindside should give Manning some issues. The key will be to keep their running game from getting going with Jacobs. That's where Haynesworth will be key. Griffin is banged up and don't know how effective he'll be.

Also, need to use Landry in the box, not in deep coverage where he can get burned on double moves. Hopefully, Hall is back and we can use Smoot at free safety on some passing downs.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 16, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

moe:

Hideki Matsui and the Los Angeles Angels agreed to a one-year contract worth about $6.5 million on Wednesday

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 12:09 PM |

Peanuts. If Snyder owned the Nationals, Hideki Matsui would have signed a 4-year contract worth about $80 million, 15 minutes before free agency started.

Posted by: League-Source | December 16, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about Carter on the left. He'll probably get dump trucked by Jacobs.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 16, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

ok pfunk, use your blinding logic then and tell me how good has JCs receiving Corp been, how good has JCs system been? How good has our O line been? How does any of this affect our running game? Portis went to the pro bowl last year along with Cooley and Samuels, were they not our best players on offense LAST year? Who is our best offensive player this year?

I say we haven't had a system for 10 years, our O line hasn't cut it the last 2, our WRs haven't cut it the last 10, Campbell is the offensive MVP this year. With no passing threats the running game suffers. Now the WRs are coming together, the line and the O looks to be coming together, and we don't know if our QB will be back, or our only proven RB under 30.

Enlighten me mr pfunk with your logic

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 16, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

bean

"Hideki Matsui and the Los Angeles Angels agreed to a one-year contract worth about $6.5 million on Wednesday."

I wish him all the best.

That guy could inservice a lot of pro athletes about the proper way to conduct oneself.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 16, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I bought my #98 jersey (in white) during training camp.

Watching the team this year, I could see Orakpo figuring out how to rush the passer. He's starting to vary his moves, and setting up tackles now. It's no coincidence that he's getting more sacks in the second half, in part due to the Redskins playing with a lead, but also because he's figured out how to beat the guy across from him. I figure next year, he's going to be the Beast of the East.

GiAnts are very beatable right now, in fact the Skins have the best chance since 07. What I am hoping to see is a killer instinct, something that's been lacking for years. Maybe these guys have it.

BTW, I have seen a mock draft where the Redskins take TIM TEBOW. Please, please, PLEASE no Tebow.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 16, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

shallaque-po!

Draft strategy-'anything but a QB'

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 16, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"I could see Orakpo figuring out how to rush the passer."

I think it has a lot to do with Blache. He's using Orakpo more aggressively -- the whole defense is moving that way. Always surprised me how Blache, the turnover king when he had Urlacher and Mike Brown in Chicage, morphed into such a conservative schemer. Maybe he's got more confidence in the offense now.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 16, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

gotta get Eli on his back and throwing off his back foot, this is a game where hopefully AH can play, and can get some inside pressure...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

One might say the Raiders got ORAKPWNED!

Posted by: hobbes9 | December 16, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Some comments on Blache's stuff. Regarding Carter, there is no player that I have been more wrong about more often than Carter. Every time he's convinced me he just doesn't have it, he shows he does. Everytime I get back on board because he proved me wrong, he goes downhill faster than Picabo Street.

I have always liked Carter's hustle and determination, he gets a lot of tackles because he stays active. I've always liked that he can play a lot more plays than most DEs, kind of like the pitcher that eats up innings.

But as soon as I start to believe in the guy, he'll prove me wrong. Again.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 16, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

"Draft strategy-'anything but a QB'Posted by: pabri"

I hope you don't mean that. There are a couple of promising punters out there.

Even with Locker staying for another year, there is one solid QB -- Jimmy Clausen -- who might go in the top ten. Everyone else should fall out of that hallowed space. Nobody I've seen who's the next Mark Sanchez or Josh Freeman, a late riser. But we haven't been to the bowls or the combine yet.

Guys I think could go later in the first round: Jevan Snead, Colt McCoy (if Texas beats Alabama). Tebow shouldn't.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 16, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Nice to have a LEAD, THEN you can allow Orakpo to tee off from DE every down and bypass the run.

Posted by: outsourced_in_va | December 16, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I thought that we weren't supposed to be buying any redskins gear until snyder sells the team or fires vinny........

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 16, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Eagles had to put up 45 to beat the giants, would love to be spoilers and see JC ply into a new skins contract

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 16, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

we can use Smoot at free safety on some passing downs.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 16, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

yes. brought this up a month or two ago, still like the idea. cobra-formation-thingy.

Posted by: RomoShortball | December 16, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Samson, could be that Blache becoming more aggressive is a factor. But early in the year, 98 was still figuring it out. Now you can see him trying various techniques against a guy, seeing if the bull rush / speed / whatever is working against the OT. Then he starts to set them up, gets them leaning and off balance... it's been fun to watch.

NTT!! (No Tim Tebow)

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 16, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

On Orakpo, I highly doubt Blache was as down on him as he made it sound. Who else was Blache high on at #13 overall?

Maybe Blache wanted Oher -- figuring help on the OL might keep his defense off the field.

The Skins drafted every pick until round 7 on defense, plus added Albert. This ought be a beastly defense.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 16, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Samson, I just assumed that we won't draft a punter or kicker, bad assumption, but otherwise I mean it 100%, just like last year.

We have a solid QB with good years ahead, no prob with a later round QB, but in the early rounds , anything but a qb, k, p

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 16, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 16, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse


No pabrian, moron that you are, I suppose I should have known that you don't understand how logic works.

See, the burden is on you to help us understand your nonsense.

You talked about Rogers, ARE and Portis being key cogs for this team, and that we need them back now that it has "come together".

The facts of the season indicate that the team started playing better and "coming together" when these players saw their roles on the team diminished.

Now you are the one that needs to explain to us why this team desperately needs these guys back next year in order to be good, when the team has been better without them orhaving them playing diminished roles.

Posted by: p1funk | December 16, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

As for Blache's comments on Fletcher. Well, yes. Fletcher is great in so many different ways. Easily the best guy brought in by the current regime -- though I think the guy who pushed for him was ... GG

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 16, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

We def need AH back for this one.

A less than healthy Gints Oline is still alot better than what the Skins saw last week, and there's NO WAY Eli is going to be as slow and incompetent as Jamarcus Russell in that pocket.

Someone talked about mving Carter around more and gettin Orakpo more reps at DE - frankly, I don't like the idea.

Stick with what's working. Having Orakpo at LB keeps him from getting pounded into the ground in the run game, so that when he does put his hand down he's fresh and explosive on that edge.

Posted by: p1funk | December 16, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4744685&name=nfl_draft

Info regarding the top 3 OT rated by Scout.com

Posted by: TWISI | December 16, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

twis, can you post the body of that link....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Easily the best guy brought in by the current regime -- though I think the guy who pushed for him was ... GG

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 16, 2009 12:59 PM

That would be the same guy who pushed for Adam Archuleta. Go figure.

Posted by: League-Source | December 16, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Nice to have a LEAD, THEN you can allow Orakpo to tee off from DE every down and bypass the run.

Posted by: outsourced_in_va

Its an interesting point. Would this defense be much better if we had the lead? Well, we let leads go 3 weeks in a row to teams that went heavy into passing the ball. So the answer is no. Just because it worked against JaMarcus Russell's Raiders, doesn't mean it will work against real teams.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 16, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I heavily doubt we'll pick up a QB in the 1st round. Look for us picking one up in between rounds 4-6, though.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 16, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Philly defense not playing that well lately. They throttled ATL, but gave up 31 to SD, 38 to NYG, and even 20 to CHI. So, getting torched by Manning et. al. may be more about how poorly the Eagles are playing, rather than how great NYG offense was.

BTW, Redskins defense is playing well. While 22nd in total rushing yards allowed, they are 12th in YPC, 12th in points, 4th in sacks, 13 in opponent's QB rating, and 12th in the only stat that really matters, points allowed.

They really, REALLY have to improve on turnovers. 9 INT is not going to cut it. They have forced 17 fumbles, which is 6th in the league. But only recovered 6 of them. NO, bless their hearts, have recovered 13 of 14 FF, with 3 TD. Of course, 1 of those was by a WR...

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 16, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Stick with what's working. Having Orakpo at LB keeps him from getting pounded into the ground in the run game, so that when he does put his hand down he's fresh and explosive on that edge.

Posted by: p1funk | December 16, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Good point funk. I liked watching Rak beat dat dude with a variety of moves.

It's nice having some consistent edge pressure again. Been too long time since we seen the likes of Dexter Manley type dude around here.

Posted by: ksquare | December 16, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Here you go Bean

Okung leads trio of top-notch OTs
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 | Print Entry
Posted by Steve Muench
The offensive tackle position is one of the most important positions on the football field and this year's draft class has three high-caliber players at the spot. Oklahoma State's Russell Okung, Oklahoma's Trent Williams and Rutgers' Anthony Davis should all come off the board in the top half of the first round and any team in the market for an offensive tackle will be elated to land any of them.
Okung leads the pack because he is a better pass-blocker than Williams and a better run-blocker and more consistent than Davis. He works to the whistle, has tremendous balance and good leadership skills.

Posted by: TWISI | December 16, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Russell Okung should be the first offensive lineman off the board.
The 6-foot-8, 300-pounder does an excellent job of getting set and using his long arms to keep edge-rushers at bay, but he doesn't always sink his hips or hold his ground as well as we would like.
He needs to be a little stouter in pass protection, but is more than capable of handling the speed at the NFL level. He moves his feet very well and is very good at getting position at the second level, but is not considered a finesse player.
Okung also plays with a bit of a mean streak and has good recovery skills, which he displayed versus Texas in Week 8. In the second quarter, the Cowboys ran a sweep left and Okung tried to seal the edge, but didn't quite get it done. However, he did the next best thing: he drove the end down the line and eventually put him on his back.
He is considered a top-5 overall pick.

Posted by: TWISI | December 16, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Win = J.P. Losman

....ugh.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 16, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

• Willams gets the slight edge over Davis due to his consistency, however, he hasn't fared as well since moving from right to left tackle this year and may never develop into an effective starting left tackle in the NFL. He can still quickly emerge as an effective starter on the right side.
A good way to compare Williams to Okung is their play versus a common opponent. During the Sooners' matchup with the Longhorns in Week 6, one play in particular shows that Williams isn't quite as athletic as Okung. In the third quarter on a third-and-14 play, Williams stopped his feet and lunged at DE Eddie Jones and as soon as he lost his balance, it was over. Jones blew by him and sacked QB Landry Jones.
That being said, Williams is one of the toughest offensive linemen we evaluated in this year's class and is still considered a top-10 overall pick.

Posted by: TWISI | December 16, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

• Davis is the most intriguing prospect of the three and actually has the most upside. There has even been some internal debate in Scouts Inc. to move Davis ahead of Williams, but his inconsistent play and character concerns have prevented that from happening.
The 6-6, 325-pounder has shown flashes of greatness this season like he did versus South Florida DE George Selvie. Overall, he did an excellent job taking the corner away from Selvie, but on the first offensive play of the game his footwork was sloppy and Selvie beat him inside and disrupted the running play in the backfield.
Davis was also inconsistent versus Pittsburgh DT Greg Romeus. Early in the first quarter Romeus was able to come off the ball, knock Davis back with his initial punch and shoot inside to make the play. Later in the game, Davis delivered a powerful punch to Romeus, putting him on his back, and then showed a bit of an edge by falling on top of him.
He is considered a top-15 overall pick.

Posted by: TWISI | December 16, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if you guys have talked about this already - but have any of you gotten a call from the Redskins today? I just got a voicemail that they were calling to ask me how my game day experience has been thus far and thanking me for being a season ticket holder! I am actually happy that I didn't answer the phone, because poor Claudia would have heard more than she wanted! Sort of odd, but maybe Danny is seeing the light? Wait, who am I kidding.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 16, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

twis thanks, appreciate it.

there's a cat out of UMass, Vladimir something, plays G, goes 6'6, 330, he should be on the teams radar...bigger guys, who can just lean on the other team and wear them out...is what I want....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

4th -- I agree, that the Redskins should not be drafting a QB in the first round. But with VC's draft strategery of "best available player", what if TT is on the board when the Redskins pick? Will he draft BAP, or go for the obvious needs of OL / DB ?

BTW, who here thinks they made a mistake on Rocky Mac at the begining of the year? He, along with the rest of the LB corps, has been playing pretty well.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 16, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Danny is seeing the light? Wait, who am I kidding.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 16, 2009 1:19 PM

Sounds like they brought in another pair of eyes to look at the game day experience. And another pair of lips to call people.

Posted by: League-Source | December 16, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Info regarding the top 3 OT rated by Scout.com

Posted by: TWISI | December 16, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I'd have a hard time not putting Bulaga above Williams and Davis. I think Bulaga can be a left tackle but I doubt Davis and Williams can. I'm hoping for Okung on the left and Davis or Williams on the right. I love the thought of Anthony Davis playing next to BMW. That could be a deadly combo for a small burner to run behind.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 16, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Blache is dealing with an embarrassment of riches on the defense. I'm sure he would have preferred to let the O have the top draft pick last year.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 16, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Suzzanne - I think Caludia is also a Cheerleader....Get her back on the phone ASAP and then call me on 3-way!

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 16, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Blache is dealing with an embarrassment of riches on the defense. I'm sure he would have preferred to let the O have the top draft pick last year.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 16, 2009 1:24 PM

Sure. I can hear in in the meetings: "I already have too much talent on my side. Don't get me any more good players. That would make my job too easy."

Posted by: League-Source | December 16, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

pfunk1, your adding to my words and calling them mine.

ARE -41 catches 2nd most on the team...again (so far)
Portis - 494 yds, Rodgers is playing dHall I not, and Campbell is my MVP for the offense

Going into next year with Ganther and Rock and Betts?

The guys that get the most criticism are some of the best athletes on the team.

Rodgers is a solid corner, portis is a solid back, ARE is a solid #2, Campbell is a solid QB. We need to replace a bunch of guys do to age and injury. My logic says keep guys that are on the field producing, and in Portis case a guy that has produced pro bowl numbers as recently as last year AND is one of the best pass protectors of all time.

Whats your logic? As for the insults I won't stoop toy your level, smiles.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 16, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

2009 Stats
Albert Haynesworth
Games - 10
Tackles - 23
Assists - 6
Sacks - 3.0
Salary - $32,000,000

Tony Brown (Haynesworth Replacement in Tennessee)
Games - 13
Tackles- 27
Assists - 9
Sacks - 5
2009 Salary - $1,356,720

The deal, which was reached early Friday morning, includes an NFL-record $41 million in guarantees. During the first 13 months of the contract, Haynesworth will earn approximately $32 million.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 16, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Rodgers is a solid corner

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Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

You talked about Rogers, ARE and Portis being key cogs for this team, and that we need them back now that it has "come together".

The facts of the season indicate that the team started playing better and "coming together" when these players saw their roles on the team diminished.

Now you are the one that needs to explain to us why this team desperately needs these guys back next year in order to be good, when the team has been better without them orhaving them playing diminished roles.

Posted by: p1funk | December 16, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Let me help pabrien out here. Rogers is the best cover guy on team. He was put down to protect his psyche. Sometimes db's need that. He has come back, and is playing well again.

With CP, he is guaranteed $7 mill, whether he plays or not. He is still a stud, probably best blocking back on team. Still has good speed, can still gain 1000 yds is a full season. He would still be a strong addition for next year.

I think we are watching the last 3 games of ARE's career as a skin. He just doesn't bring anything to the team that is irreplaceable. Good guy, good teammate, good leader, but will not be with skins next year.

Posted by: frediefritz | December 16, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

ElBigChroizo again just raw stats w/o actual analysis is meaningless.

Posted by: TWISI | December 16, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

There should be 4 QB taken in the top 15, Bradford, Locher, Clausen and McCoy. Suh will go top 5, as will Berry. Mays will go before -- or to -- OAK.

Right now, WAS has the 6th pick in the draft. Based on they way they're playing, and who's "behind" them, I can see them dropping another 2-3 slots, which means a top 10 pick.

1 - STL QB probably Bradford
2 - TB Suh DT NEB
3 - CLE Okung OT OSU
4 - DET Berry FS TEN
5 - KC Lafell WR LSU
6 - OAK Mays FS USC
7 - BUF QB McCoy
8 - WAS ??

Does Vinny draft an OL?

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 16, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 16, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 16, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 16, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I saw that this morning so here's a few more numbers for you.

2008
Overall
Redskins #4
Titans #7

Sacks
Redskins #28
Titans #5


2009

Overall defense

Redskins #7
Titans #23

Sacks
Redskins #4
Titans #17

Stats are very commonly misused. You would have to do some real analysis to figure out the value of the deal. In my opinion I think this defense is better than last years. You need to take alot of factors into account like strength of schedule, playing with a lead Vs. playing from behind, etc.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 16, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

TE/LS,
After signing Big Al, don't you think if Blache were head coach he would have drafted a big OL?

He knows the strengths and weaknesses of this team as well as anyone.

(Wow, your reply made me think about some of the political posing that must go on in Ashburn...ugh!)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 16, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I have a problem with having a new coach coming here who will accept having his assistants already selected for him a la Jim Zorn. That is no recipe for success. What's so hard with firing Vinnie, hiring a President of Football Ops, have that individual hire a GM, have that GM hire a coach, have that coach along with the GM assemble a staff. Please, no holdovers. Time to move on. Sadly I think we are in for another season of losing and a very grim future. No sell respecting coach will come to a team with a meddling owner, a clueless VP of operations who is the Owner's boy toy, and a staff pre-assembled for them. I don't agree with the glass half full views of some folks on here. The offensive line is in shambles Levi Jones and Mike "The Human Turnstile" Williams would not start for any .500 and above team in the NFL. Just accept it. Great the 2008 draft class are coming around, thats what they are supposed to do. Also, too little too late. Defensive line is aging terribly. Secondary has an overpaid diva and another one that misses on the most basic of tackles. Have Redskins fans become so petty that effort triumphs victories? The bottom line are wins and right now this team is 4 - 9. Lost to some of the most pathetic teams in the NFL this season. If, if, if, if, if, could have should have means nothing. The team is judged purely on wins and losses. They beat the f'in Raiders for God's sake not the Colts, not the Saints, not the Vikings, not the Chargers. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. There is hope, but a complete front office overhaul is in needed in the worst of ways.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 16, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Yes indeed stats are very misued especially by people on this board trumpeting the Skins having the top ranked passing defense in the league. That and $1.25 will getcha a blow job from Beantown Greg's mama.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 16, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Glad Cerrato botched the deal for Mark Sanchez and that Orakpo fell into his lap.

Has that guy been fired yet?

Posted by: DaveLopan | December 16, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"During the first 13 months of the contract, Haynesworth will earn approximately $32 million.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 16, 2009 1:33 PM"

EBC,

However you are mixing REAL dollars and cap dollars

AH's 32 million [this year's base-plus the portion of the Guaranteed 1st 4 years (last 3 are OPTIONS and don't count until exercised...)] is spread pro-rated over the seven years which would ACTUALLY equal for THIS year's money...

$4,571,428.57

Not bad for a player rated in the top 5 at his position, no?

Cap math is insane...

Posted by: ThinkingMan | December 16, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"During the first 13 months of the contract, Haynesworth will earn approximately $32 million.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 16, 2009 1:33 PM"

EBC,

However you are mixing REAL dollars and cap dollars

AH's 32 million [this year's base-plus the portion of the Guaranteed 1st 4 years (last 3 are OPTIONS and don't count until exercised...)] is spread pro-rated over the seven years which would ACTUALLY equal for THIS year's money...

$4,571,428.57

Not bad for a player rated in the top 5 at his position, no?

Cap math is insane...

Posted by: ThinkingMan | December 16, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to write a new TV show entitled:

"Brian Orakpo: Sack Police"

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 16, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

What if we could get Suh in the upcoming draft?

Talk about a steel curtain of a line. Haynesworth, Carter, Suh, Rakpo, Jarmon and others rotating, could be an identity for the defense, for the team.

Posted by: DownTownClown | December 17, 2009 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Orakpo rushes mostly at RE against the LT. Carter is moved to LE to rush against the RT. Beatty should be seeing more of Mr. Carter who is a beast, especially against RTs.

Posted by: GoEagles | December 21, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

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