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OTAs Begin the Way Minicamp Ended

Despite another cold, rainy day, the Redskins are conducting their organized team activity. Among the players who are present but not participating are, no surprise, Malcolm Kelly (recovering from microfracture surgery) and Devin Thomas (who tweaked his hamstring in minicamp Friday). Also, Carlos Rogers is not participating and we'll find out why when Jim Zorn talks to the media after practice.

Three more OTAs are planned for this week; eight are scheduled then for the first two weeks of June.

In other news, Dan Steinberg hears that Zorn and special teams coordinator Danny Smith will attend the Pens-Caps playoff game tonight at Verizon.

By Zach Berman  |  May 4, 2009; 12:01 PM ET
 
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Second? Fifth?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Rogers being released?

Posted by: ronnieb1212 | May 4, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Who the heck is Zach Berman?

Posted by: chrislarry | May 4, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

In other news, Dan Steinberg hears that Zorn and special teams coordinator Danny Smith will attend the Pens-Caps playoff game tonight at Verizon. He's also hearing that a certain straight-pocketed individual might attend.

By Zach Berman | May 4, 2009; 12:01 PM ET

Zach Berman? Did Cindy change her name? Surely they didn't give her the day off.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Zorn goes to Bruce and says. "Hey how medium is the team"

Posted by: alex35332 | May 4, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

By Zach Berman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Seems to cover the Nats.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 4, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

By Zach Berman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Seems to cover the Nats.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 4, 2009 12:17 PM |

Bad sign. Post thinks (hopes) the 'Skins will suck as bad as the Nats. We probably will, but just in a different way. One owner saves his money wisely, the other wastes his money foolishly. Result in both cases: unmitigated perpetual mediocity.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

How awful are these guys that they cant beat out James Trash!!! thats not real comforting either...

I was under the impression that the whole James Thrash #3 receiver last year was just to give the guy a legitimate shot because he is such a workout warrior

Let me be the first to say the experiment failed miserably... Thrash was a non factor

Posted by: BenchCampbell | May 4, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick of this Zach Berman and his constant negativity regarding the weather!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 4, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze, that is funny. Nice.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 4, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick of this Zach Berman and his constant negativity regarding the weather!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 4, 2009 12:21 PM

Brilliant! And this coming from a guy who walks around with the name "haze."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Portis going to the Caps game tonight?

Posted by: RedDMV | May 4, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure JLC has the day off since he slaved away out in Ashburn all weekend.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 4, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say the experiment failed miserably... Thrash was a non factor

Posted by: BenchCampbell | May 4, 2009 12:20 PM

BUT....he wasn't as much of a non factor as the guys he beat out.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

CAPS!!!!!!!!!!! Rock the Red!

Posted by: chrislarry | May 4, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm here, guys! Zach Berman covers colleges for us. Am trying to give the scribes some time off now so I can go to the editorial whip from August through April.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | May 4, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Zach Berman covers colleges for us.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | May 4, 2009 12:35 PM

Well with his negativity, it's amazing that anyone ever graduates from college.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Don't apologize, Cindy! I know Jasno is your guy, but... I ain't sayin', just sayin'.

Posted by: LarryBud | May 4, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, it's obvious that this Brennan guy has no sources to confirm that it's raining at the Park....we all know that they won't let him anywhere near the training facility and that he makes this sjk up about the weather just to stir things up and further his anti FO agenda. And that if he were covering the Ravens today, all would be sunny and beautiful at their facilities. Just fire the guy now so we don't have to listen to anything that might come across as negative. Otherwise we might start insulting him and calling him names to make ourselves feel smarter. Thanks!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 4, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine how much heat Campbell would be taking right now if Thrash wasn't on the roster to bail him out last season. He would have only thrown for 3,164 yards instead of the 3,245 yards he actually had. We should all be thanking the football gods for giving us that type of production.

Posted by: psps23 | May 4, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

When a team is constantly beset by injuries, I think they need to start questioning some things. Is it the trainer? Is it the offseason conditioning program not focusing on flexibility? Is it just the Redskins have signed a bunch of guys with a genetic predisposition to injuries? (I think you could make the case with Kelly on that one.) Whatever it is, you'd think they would really take a hard look at this and make some changes. Maybe they did try to address this issue by dumping Springs and Washington - two oft-injured players - in the offseason, but then, they offset that equation by drafting players with a history of injuries. I haven't heard anything about changes in how they train. In fact, a lot of the offseason conditioning seems to be managed by the players themselves. Maybe that's a problem. It would explain why so many players are hurt right out of the gate.

I guess what I'm saying is that these players are paid a lot of money and the team should be doing everything they can to protect this investment. Are they?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 4, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I meant to say Berman.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 4, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Get over him he is not even a #3 receiver in this league

Posted by: BenchCampbell

Did this guy p in your Bosco or what?

No one here can determine exactly what value people like Thrash have to a team. That's what coaches do, and every year Thrash puts young hotshots with more talenta nd less desire on the bench

Yeah, he's no longer much of a receiver. His playing #3 last year wasn't an indictment of him. It was an indictment of the losers the redskins drafted to replace him. When he showed up in top condition, knew the plays and acted like a professional, they showed up out of shape (or not at all, in davis's case), could be bothred to learn where to line up, and/or and got hurt probably because they were outof shape.,

If you want professiona bad examples and whirlpool queens like that as leaders on your team, fine--I'll play your team with my overachievers and beat you every time.

It should be obvious what Thrash has brought to the Redskins. Class, leadership, maturity and a sense responsibility to teammates, fans, and his paycheck.

Altho I don't know why a player would feel any sense of obligation to bozos whose sole purpose is to come on this site and rip players who give their all on the field, despite being endowed with less talent than the prima donna's they put on the bench.

If and when Thrash is cut, I will applaud him, not cheer the fact that he finally got too old. And irony of ironies, he will likely be replaced by someone he taught and inspired to try as hard as he has.

Posted by: TheCork | May 4, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I guess what I'm saying is that these players are paid a lot of money and the team should be doing everything they can to protect this investment. Are they?

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Hmm. Good point. Maybe they should build an indoor training facility where they can practice safely during inclement weather.

Posted by: TheCork | May 4, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

cork needs to get down off his soap box and take his meds...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | May 4, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

sniffle sniffle

Posted by: CrappyWaiter | May 4, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. Good point. Maybe they should build an indoor training facility where they can practice safely during inclement weather.

Posted by: TheCork | May 4, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

yeah good point, ask the cowboys had an indoor facility helps protect your investment in inclement weather...what a tool

Posted by: Hail2theChief | May 4, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

when did this turn into aesop's fables??

Posted by: CrappyWaiter | May 4, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. Good point. Maybe they should build an indoor training facility where they can practice safely during inclement weather.

Posted by: TheCork | May 4, 2009 12:53 PM |

Dallas has a temporary shelter for sale cheap while they're building something for the long haul.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

*how

Posted by: Hail2theChief | May 4, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

If Thrashs output last year was indicative of class, leadership, maturity and a sense responsibility to teammates, fans, and his paycheck.

Then I for one want none of it...

Besides here is the problem Thrash just like other "CORE REDSKINS" should not be on the roster solely based on class

Posted by: BenchCampbell | May 4, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Thrash SUCKS! stop defending his on the field play by the fact that he is a hard worker... he doesnt deserve to be a #3 or a #6 for that matter

I would rather take a chance on one of the young guns in camp that have the possibility of acually contributing then to keep an aging never was because he is a nice guy

If he is such a great leader to the receivers make him a conditioning coach for these young guys stop rewarding him with a roster spot

Posted by: BenchCampbell | May 4, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

James Thrash is THE MAN! Hardest working player in the NFL....."Core Redskin"....Gibbs loved the guy, give the guy a raise. He makes the special teams that much better.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 4, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine how much heat Campbell would be taking right now if Thrash wasn't on the roster to bail him out last season. He would have only thrown for 3,164 yards instead of the 3,245 yards he actually had. We should all be thanking the football gods for giving us that type of production.

Posted by: psps23 | May 4, 2009 12:44 PM

Besides here is the problem Thrash just like other "CORE REDSKINS" should not be on the roster solely based on class

Posted by: BenchCampbell | May 4, 2009 1:00 PM


Yeah... what they said.

Oh and newsflash: "Core Redskins" - a term derived by fans of the Washington Redskins, originated by HOF'er Washington Redskins coach, Joe Gibbs. The term is to make fans oblivious as to who and when an aging veteran player becomes expendable.

Ex: James Thrash, although not a #3 WR anymore, excels on special teams play... he's a workout warrior, an all around great guy, he's truly an example of a core redskin.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 4, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I too applaud James Thrash. Haters, and rippers don't hate on James Thrash, he's just doing and has been doing for years what some of these young bozos don't understand is what is neccessary to survive and be successful in the NFL. Here we have 3 clowns (Davis,Thomas, and Kelley) who are injury prone, out of shape, and unable to learn plays, routes,etc. On the other hand we have Thrash who is always in shape, and always prepared as far as the playbook, he leads a clean Christian life off the field. Yes he is not a gifted athlete, and he is getting old and injury prone. But he has class, proffessionalism, a sense of decency, takes pride in himself and his game, and the coaches and players know that he will give 110%. The fact that Thrash beat out Kelley and Thomas is indicative of how sorry they are. But that seems to be a common trait among a large number of the younger generation.

Posted by: 72Redskins | May 4, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Thrash SUCKS! stop defending his on the field play by the fact that he is a hard worker... he doesnt deserve to be a #3 or a #6 for that matter

Posted by: BenchCampbell | May 4, 2009 1:04 PM

You need to change your screen name to CutThrash. Of all the problems with this team, why are you so worked up over Thrash?

When one of your unnamed hot-shots beats him out, he'll be gone. That's how they do it. Until then, just be thankful we have a guy as good as he is and don't have to play one of the guys who was worse.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 4, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep!

Posted by: BenchCampbell | May 4, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"when did this turn into aesop's fables?"

Once there was a young noble named Daniel who owned all the land of the Bay. He used his fortune to buy a jousting team. But he replaced all the good jousters with the best jousters from all over the land. Soon the new jousters were lazy and shiftless, and their jousting skills deteriorated. He tried to rehire the good jousters, but only Derrick of Dockery was available. The lesson?

Sittin' on the Dock of Bay...

Posted by: ElYeah | May 4, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

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