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Our Favorite Guest Blogger Is Back

Brian, our Skins-loving friend stationed in Afghanistan, sent along his thoughts about the Pat Tillman episode (debacle is more like it), and is getting excited about gerring back to the DC area soon when his tour ends over there. He's fired up to see the Skins play this fall as well.

I have another guest blog to post soon as well, from our old pal AEE, and please, if any of you guys get the twitch, send them along. I am going to be at my in-laws in Cooperstown for the next week, so I'll be out of the loop on the Skins, and pretty much everything else, so I'll post whatever you guys send. Should be fun taking Chloe to the Hall of Fame up there, and I plan on catching up with my boy Freddy Adu next week when the US Under-20 National Team plays Argentina up in Rochester. I'm going to drive over to meet with him and see the game, so that should be fun.

Anyway, enough about me. Here's Brian's guest blog, and I hope you guys are as honored as I am that he would chose to share his thoughts in this forum.:

Hello fellow Redskins fans! On some of the comments on my last guest blog I was asked what I thought about the Pat Tillman situation since I'm in the Army. Now that the draft has come and gone I figured I would go ahead and write a little bit about what I think of that situation.

I don't know too much about the situation first hand. I have worked with a few people that were there that day. I have heard what happened from them. I don't really understand if and why anything had to be covered up. I do however feel that Army wanted to use his death as a publicity stunt. They were looking for an edge in the war. I believe they were hoping that it would gain them more support for the war. Perhaps they weren't, but I think anything is possible.

My personal thoughts about Pat are as follows. I have been a Soldier for more than 12 years now. I have been a football fan all my life. I played football my whole childhood and that is what I wanted to do when I grew up. I did things in high school that kept that from happening. Instead, I joined the Army. I don't regret joining one bit. Once 9/11 happened, I was ready to go to war. That is what I had been training to do.

My guys and I were trained and ready to go to combat and get back at the people that attacked the very land we love. I was in the 82nd Airborne Division at the time and I knew it was only a matter of time before we went. Instead I ended up moving to Arizona and working in a hospital. (I'm a medic)

Shortly after moving, my old unit went to Afghanistan and I was devastated. The very guys that I had trained were headed out. When the war kicked off, I followed it every day. I was addicted to knowing what was going on. Then Pat Tillman joined and I was amazed that a guy would walk away from millions of dollars for doing what I always wanted to do, to come and do what I was doing now. I was just amazed.

April 22, 2004 hit me like a ton of bricks. The guy that gave up my childhood dream to do what I was doing instead had just been killed. I tell all of you that it hit hard. I have to admit that it made me cry. Here is a guy that gave up so much and then gave up even more, his life. I was supposed to be over there with him fighting. I shouldn't have been sitting in some hospital being in charge of some family clinic. I was supposed to be in Afghanistan, sweating my balls off, walking all over that country and looking for the bad guys just like he was. I just felt like crap. I felt like I was in the wrong place. I didn't belong where I was. I needed to go to war.

Well, in Oct. 2006, I would get my chance. I'm still in Afghanistan but I only have a few weeks left. I now feel that I have done the right thing for my country. My career has come full circle now. As for Pat Tillman, I hope that this entire situation gets put to rest soon.

It's very hard for me to read the articles about him. I can only read them a little at a time before my emotions start to get the best of me. It's that way every time I hear about one of my fellow service members losing his or her life. I ask each and every one of you to remember the men and women of our Armed Forces. This is more than a job or career to us. It's a way of life. Some hate it and some don't. Myself, I love it.

Here is a link that all of you can read about Pat Tillman. It was off of ESPN.com as a 4 part story. I'm sure that most of you have read it by now but thought I would attach it anyway. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=tillmanpart4&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1 If you want to know more about Pat, you can go to www.pattillmanfoundation.org. It's a great website with some great reading. Feel free to check it out. If you are not aware, there are several running events in his honor.

One in particular is the run in Tempe, AZ. It's 4.2 miles in length and ends on the 42 yard line of Sun Devil Stadium. I plan to fly out to Tempe, and attend the event next year. It is usually held in April. I have met someone that ran in it and was told that it is a great event to attend. Sorry, this has gotten a little long and I will end it....

Hope to meet some of you at The Purple Shamrock in Boston for the October 28th game against the Patriots. I was told by several people that the first few rounds of Jamison are on them. I will be ready to collect. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

By Jason La Canfora  |  May 10, 2007; 1:44 PM ET
 
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Comments

1st?

Posted by: huh | May 10, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

2nd

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Great post B. My prayers are with you my friend. Stay safe.

Posted by: jm220 | May 10, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

1st?

Posted by: huh | May 10, 2007 01:53 PM

2nd

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 01:54 PM

Nerd and double Nerd

Posted by: ru kidding | May 10, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

3rd?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

6th

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

fifth.

Posted by: fifth | May 10, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

4th?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Due to quasi-maybe-not-real blog law from a couple days ago about political discussion I will not share what I think of the whole thing. I will just say keep safe Brian and keep fighting the good fight. And also, go yankees

Posted by: Max Power | May 10, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I reject that blaw due to the fact most of us represent Washingtonians and are more ept to delve into politics more than a mid-westener or WC person would. Politics drive Washington, WaPo, and the Redskins...

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Tillman is a hero
Prayers go out to soldiers
God Speed. Come home soon

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Also, everyone who dosen't like this 1st, 2nd thing must have been out of school for multiple decades and are old geezers now. Lighten up a little an have some fun......

Now that Dale Earnhardt has left DEI, what are the chances of Joe Gibbs Racing getting him, being that the Redskins are his favorite team and all.....

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

SINCE THE BLAW MAY BE REJECTED, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS LONG EMAIL I GOT A COUPLE WEEKS BACK. DESPITE YOUR VIEWS OF THE WAR, AND (IMHO) THIS MISHANDLING OF SAID WAR, THIS PUTS IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

SKIP IF YOU LIKE, BUT IT IS AN ENLIGHTENING READ

Thomas Jefferson And The Barbary Wars...

U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 2007

Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States
during his ceremonial swearing-in.

Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's wearing-in photo opportunity drew more
media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison
represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.

The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas
Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's
founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the
Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in
the library.

Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in
college,
said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a
visionary
like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom
could
be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the
book,
he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about
to
advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria,
Tunisia and Tripoli.

Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once
well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is
mostly
forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved
millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and
Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.

Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and
Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves.

The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages
had
a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as
many
of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred
"booty" of only young women and children could be collected.

Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as
concubines
in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of
Muslim
men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to
have
as many concubines as their fortunes allow.

Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create
eunuchs
who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East.
Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave
routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated
that
only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived
after
the surgery.

When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American
merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for
protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews
enslaved
by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of
Algiers"--an
Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.

Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by
the
pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties
with
the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission
consisting
of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the
negotiations.

Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean,
the
new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing
to
pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and
buy
the freedom of enslaved sailors.

Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get
American
commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He
believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted
matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of
trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.

In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams,
then
the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul
Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.

The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote
to
appease.

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why
Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they
had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents
reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that
Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in
their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their
authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war
upon
them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could
take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain
in
Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims
millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return
of
American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20
percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he
dispatched
a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean,
and
informed Congress.

Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not
one
cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American
Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.

The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS
Chesapeake,
USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.

In 1805, American Marines marched across the desert from Egypt into
Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all
American slaves.

During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States,
crumbling
as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by
Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.

Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn,
with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, we
will fight our country's battles on the land as on the sea."

It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total
defeat
of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.

Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put
and
end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was
a
"visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own
Muslim book of jihad.

WELCOME TO THE WORLD VIEW OF OUR MUSLIM ''BROTHERS''. SAME IDEA, 300
HUNDRED YEARS LATER.
TOO BAD SO MANY AMERICANS CAN'T OR WON'T READ A LITTLE AMERICAN HISTORY!
L


--
Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
Ronald Reagan

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Brian- Good to hear from you from the front line. Thoughts and prayers with you and your family.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

8th?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

PD,

this is a comment about the last blog. you are an idiot. bl-og and de-ad are 2 syllable words, huh? I want you to try and say them aloud as two syllable words and listen to yourself, jackass. I hope you failed English cause I almost did and I know I'm not that stupid

Posted by: bornskinsfan | May 10, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

So far most of the comments make this a shabingus - and that's too bad. The rest of the comments will be much better.

Brian,

That was a great and moving post. Thanks. Hope you arrive safe back in the States soon. Another healthy soldier back from the Mid-east is what this country needs more of.

Posted by: charlie | May 10, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, passing english at Calvert High is a something to boast about. Go back to lurking.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

wasn't jefferson a slave owner himself? innit kinda hypocritical then...the barbary war? ohh sorry...i forgot he was spawned from a puritan society. my bad!

i guess i should start learning bible.

PD, i don't mind politics but i mind posting forwarded e-mails. post your own thoughts that you've formulated yourself.

no, i'm not mad at your views. i'm mad at you that you're being lazy. and because of your laziness i had to fcking scroll thru all this shti that you just spewed all over the favorite guest blog.

it's two fcking thousand SEVEN! e-mail forwards are so fcking 90's!

in response to your bullshti should i google and find a 50 page essay that someone else wrote and post it up here? cuz i'm sure it exists!

Posted by: dealer | May 10, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

HEY!

Brian and those guys are over there putting their lives and their health on the line. Have a LITTLE respect for the dude's post. Geez.

Posted by: charlie | May 10, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

18Th??

Posted by: homless_Guy_In_DC | May 10, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Brian, really difficult to think of what to say because your post makes me think of so many things at once.

The main thing, maybe the only thing, is how desperately I hope you get out of there safe and sound in a few weeks. I hope the same for everybody serving in Afghanistan and Iraq. Thanks for taking some time to send us this note. And in a few weeks, welcome home.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 10, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Am I supposed to care that you are mad at me dealer?

Is scrolling that hard for you.

At question here was not Jeffersons holding of slaves, which yes, makes it hypocritical. It is what he did in response to a threat.

I have no knowledge of the Quran, but I do know that the story is true, and that the threat today is the same idealogical principle.

It is not an essay, or position paper, it is a factual account.

But I understand your inherant need to hate.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and it is completely in scope for this topic.

If you want to censor this open forum, go to ES.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

PDSquared, posting that essay was unneccessarily provocative, a frankly hostile move. That's hate speech.

Posting it here does absolutely nothing to move our conversation forward in a positive way (and yes, you could say same with the response I'm currently typing).

Not cool, dude.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 10, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Thoughts and blessings with you and your soldiers Brian.

Your post was tremendous and reminds me, as I sit here eating my lunch on a sunny day in CA, how little the vast majority of us are being asked to give up or sacrifice in these wars. I know people say it's your job and you signed up for it and you'd probably even say that you're glad to know I can sit here and lunch.

But to my mind it's a travesty and about as wrong as we have ever been. You guys deserve everything we can give you and we have a responsibility to give up whatever we have to to make sure you get it. Still no one asks us to and so when the shti hits the fan we all walk around wondering what happened. You represent some of the very best of what is the USA and we are not honoring that enough.

ACHOO - Wow I need to remember to dust the soapbox.

Posted by: sfskin | May 10, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Brian, what you're doing and did shows that you're a much braver soul than i. thanks! and i hope you get back safe and soon. i still haven't read the Tillman story. i don't want to read it. i just can't figure out why anyone had to lie about his heroic death.

Posted by: dealer | May 10, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Well said, Nate and sfskin.

Posted by: k Squared | May 10, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad

[taking marbles and going home]

Posted by: not cool AT ALL pd | May 10, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Well call me "old geezer" if you like but in my opinion the silly obsession with being the 1st or 2nd to post indicates someone who is still in school.

Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Nate;

What do you think was the point of Jason posting a guest blog about Afghanistan?

I dont think it is hate speech. Too many people are caught up in their own need not to offend and say that a group of people are bad.

But this is the real world and there are bad groups. And those trying to wage Jihad are bad. Just as others here will post that our government is the bad group.

I respect your opinion Nate, but it is provacative, and it is meant to be in a meaningful way. Not to disparage a people like all Muslims. (if there is any confusion, the ALL CAPS at the end is not my writing) But there are extremists that are hell bent on destroying us. And this report (as I will call it since it is fact based) points to that very fact.

Case in point is my jewish friend who is Iranian. They had to flee the Sha of Iran in the 80's because he was purging all non-muslims in the country. IHHO he said we should be in Iran right now stopping Ahmadinejad.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

PD, TYPE IT!!! and yes, it's as hard for me to scroll as it is for you to paraphrase forwarded e-mails. don't cut and paste spam up here.

anyways...i was listening to 980 just now...and they got feldman and malone doing a show together from 11 to 1? haven't heard it yet...but always thought maloney was good. she called out lebron james when he was HOT (last year) for whispering in arenas' ears...

Posted by: dealer | May 10, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

lisa, i hear you. but 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 16th, 143rd, are cute. no?

Posted by: dealer | May 10, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

In reference to U.S. Veteran dispatch [excellent email].

Many civilizations have put their heads into sand and have paid very heavy price for it. One Muslim king [Aurangzeb]in India had a decree that until 20,000 Hindus are either converted to Muslim religion or are killed, he will not eat! History says he did not go hungry for one day. [History was also written by Muslims]

As Americans if we close our eyes we will pay very havy price.

Posted by: GRP | May 10, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

also if i may say so sfskin, you walked that tightrope pretty good there. (and agreed with everything you said. well put.) guiliani-sh! ever considered a career in politics.

Posted by: dealer | May 10, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Stay safe bro. Hopefully the Redskins will pull an upset for you up in NE and we can watch Randy Moss drag his a*s off the field again before the game is over.

Posted by: cdubb | May 10, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

PDS- my friend, Vitriol (Vit-ri-ol) has 3 syllables. Also, haven't actually read the post yet (about to), hope folks aren't getting to confrontational.

SFSkin- my hope is that we offer a mid-high or a mid-high and a mid '08 pick to the bills for Aaron Schobel.

Posted by: D7 | May 10, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Hi everyone. I also feel very strongly about Tillman's death. I am an X-army ranger. I was once a warrior king by commanding an army ranger company in my younger days. Once an army ranger, always an army ranger.

Tillman's accidental death and then coverup stinks to high heaven. We learned as officers, before the 90's, that officers "Will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those that do." WHATEVER happened to the traditional core of values we had in our officer corps before the 90's?

Duty, Honor, Country.

I'll tell you what happened. All of the brightest and most intelligent officers resigned their commissions - like me. We became fed up with the system - rewarding politics over accomplishments. This leaves only the average to below average officer remaining. Unfortunately, this is who is now leading our country. Take, for example, LTG james Campbell - 3 star general ... majored in Physical Education? WTF? I guess solving the jumping jack mechanics will solve world problems, huh? No ranger tab - and he leads our infantry? When i worked along with him during the mid-80's, he did not have a CIB as a LTC. Now he has one as a General? How did he get it? Obviously as a general officer sitting WAAAAY behind the front lines in his air-conditioned Mercedes during Desert Storm, no doubt, while our young soldiers sweltered in 120 heat on the front lines. Reminds me of the 18 AIRBORNE Corp embarrassment during the Grenada invasion ... remember that one? More medals were given for that operation than soldiers who actually participated in it.

Yes - the army and particularly the officer core has really deteriorated during the past 2 decades - ever since Reagan left office.

Posted by: X.Hog | May 10, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

GRP, ahhhh the myths of India. the mythological gods that have trunks for noses and can fly with the sparrows.

sir/maddam, would you not agree that those muslims that wrote these myths were once hindus (from southern india as oppose to real india (the indus valley))?

i guess we should wake up cuz we might end up like the indians of north and south america. and whereever else the crusades happened.

Posted by: dealer | May 10, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Totally forget my original purpose - which was to say "Great Post, Brian" - it makes our bickering on here seem inane.

Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Chris Larry quick hits:

1. Brian thanks for your service, get home safe, thanks for your honesty on Tilman. Love your guest blogs.

2. The "1st" thing is the lamest thing of all time. I am 35, if that opinion makes me over the hill then so be it. And to not have the decency to hold off on this post just proves how silly it all is.

3. PDsquared that has to be the worst, most ill concieved, lazy, pointless post of all time on RI. Dealer and Nate are straight up right in there beat down of you so I won't expand. At least next time just post a link.

4. Cindy/JLaC can we maybe get an open thread to comment on as to not besmirch Brian's guest blog with fat lazy brain dead american opinions?

Posted by: chris larry | May 10, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

And to that Lisa, my post was not meant to slight him or what the soldiers do. But to put into perspective that what they are doing is just and right for our continued existance.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh, good grief, PDSquared. Make up your mind. You just said the words weren't yours, but now you're saying the post puts into perspective that what our armed forces are doing is just and right for our continued existence. Take a step back, dude.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 10, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

CL;

If there was a link I would have posted it.

But that is a serious accusation that it was the 'worst, most ill concieved, lazy, pointless post of all time on RI'.

Peeps all the time copy and paste things here. So I dont get where you and dealer get off saying that we only post our own writings and opinions here.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME TO THE WORLD VIEW OF OUR MUSLIM ''BROTHERS''. SAME IDEA, 300
HUNDRED YEARS LATER.
TOO BAD SO MANY AMERICANS CAN'T OR WON'T READ A LITTLE AMERICAN HISTORY!

Try reading a little European history and find out what good Catholics did to non-believers during the Crusades. Or hell, what priests have done to young boys lately. DOes that mean all Catholics or all Priests are the enemy? Of course not. But to pea-brains like this poster, who doesn't think for himself but lets ideologues do his "thinking" for him, answers are always easy, and always in black and white.

--

Posted by: Corkczar | May 10, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

(x.hog) Sir, what caused this detereoation(sp)? and would you agree that this is in fact true for armies of all countries? Even Israel isn't too happy with their leaders.

ps...i just realized that i missed lost last night and i could've been watching that instead of feuding with PD and GRP...grrrrrr!

Posted by: dealer | May 10, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Nate;

What do you think was the point of Jason posting a guest blog about Afghanistan?...

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 02:58 PM

The guest post was from our friend Brian, a huge Redskins fan who is stationed in Afghanistan. The post was not "about Afghanistan". If Brian talks about what's going on over there, that's his right. He's certainly earned it.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
--Ronald Reagan

And this is the kind of thinking a mind beset by Alzheimers will get you. No offense to those suffering from Alzheimers, but the deification of that ham actor makes me throw up a little in my mouth.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 10, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Again, PDSquared, you tossed a hateful screed into this conversation, under the heading of a guest post from a soldier in a combat zone.

That hate speech you posted bears all the hallmarks of emotionally manipulative, fact-twisting rants which come from the far corners of the political spectrum. It's utterly disrespectful to us and especially to the guy who's trying to make it through a tour in Afghanistan.

Sorry if this seems like piling on, dude, but I'm riled up about this.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 10, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Dont see where the confusion is there Nate.

Since I had CAPS in the beginning to separate out my text vs the 'essay', I wanted to point out that the CAPS at the end were part of the essay. Not my writing.

With that the post still puts into perspective the threat that is fundamentalist Islamic Jihad. There goal is to kill all non-muslims, and if anyone has not noticed, they are getting pretty good at it.

So again, you will have to explain where I need to make up my mind. Ultimatley I agree with the position, that is why I posted it.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Rile up brother Nate, rile up....

I am letting you speak for me on this, I am so pissed off that I don't want to respond....taking breaths....

Posted by: chris larry | May 10, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Going to lunch, I can't deal with any more of this.

BRIAN, sorry for the kerfuffle down here. Again, your post was awesome, and I hope you get home safely and have a great Skins season waiting for you this fall.

HAIL

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Hi I'm Skippy and I have a metal plate in my head. I really really love lemon meringue pie and Peterbilt trucks. And also the Redskins very much I like alot too also. The plate wasn't due to an accidnet or to war surgery related issues things, but was elective surgery. And in answer to your question, no I don't recommend it. I got some bad advice from Floyd, my neighbor down in the Doublewide who thought it might help me focus my thoughts more and communincomicate with aliens from outter space. All I get tho is some guy named Pablo speaking in spanish and FM radio sometimes. About the Redskins I'm a big fan of Rod Gardner. Do you think he will do good this year?. What about Ferd Smooth? I think he is a really good defenable back. Anyone else like Lemon Meringue pie?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Yo fake PD,

How about siting your sources? What is the attribution for that 'essay'. Where did you get it. How do we know the facts are right. If we need to learn History as you say than you might be familiar with the fact that Historians footnote, name sources, vet their resources, counter weigh other views.....

Posted by: chris larry | May 10, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

siting = citing

Posted by: chris larry | May 10, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Cork, the crusades are not happening now. And I have a strong opinion about priests in the church and what they are doing. To me they have killed any kind of Religion I may have had.

I am still a spiritual person, but the church does not speak to god for me.

So the point for todays war is relevant.

Lastly, before I go for the day and read tomorrow all the lamblast from the night posters about this, is that I think we should be fighting this war. Now I think Bush or the people he chose to run it are F-ing it up big time. But the threat is real and it will not go away with diplomacy since these radical islamists are hell bent on destroying us.

Just ask yourself if we do not see this through and there is another 9/11 type event. Are we then going to say that we should have nipped it in the bud?

It is a real threat, not made up by politicians, and if we dont take care of it, then it will come to our soil.

Thats my take on the politics side of the war.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

this is easily the worst thread in RI Blog history and I'm really disappointed in JLC posting a Guest Blog that was 99% political/current events and MAYBE 1% football.

The Pat Tillman story is very important to me but it has almost no place on a Redskins blog.

It is becoming quickly obvious how bad an idea this was.

This was a mistake, JLC. Please start a new thread for those of us who have no interest in the flawed idea of 'debate'.

Posted by: Clinton Hill | May 10, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I have not posted in quite awhile, but I could not pass this up. I served in the Navy from 5/70 until 6/77, and spent 11 months at sea. During most of my time in the Navy, the national feeling towards the military was not favorable, to say the least. It started to change around the time of the bicentennial celebration. It is so refreshing and heart-warming to see positive sentiments expressed for our friends in the military.

Brian,

May you have fair winds and following seas.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | May 10, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Brian- great post, thanks for taking the time to share. Get home safe, chief.

PDS- not only is your grasp on syllables a little off, I think you've chosen an inadequate and mildly inappropriate forum to discuss these issues at length. I'm sure all is meant well, but it's not always easy to express yourself accurately and completely on a blog.

I'm done preaching.

Except on Schobel.

Posted by: D7 | May 10, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Hill, I completely agree with you. I do not understand why this guest blog was posted. I'm sure that there are other blogs that this would be appropriate for.

nate, dealer, and other, You are the ones that are out of line. I don't share the same opinion that PDP has, but he certainly didn't post anything inappropriate and it obviously pertains to the subject matter of this thread. But I did not come to RI to talk about a war that I don't agree with and I will leave it at that.

Posted by: gethanr13 | May 10, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm outta here too. Call me when you start talking football again. I feel sorry for Brian.

Posted by: charlie | May 10, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Also..Is it all agreed that the 1st/2nd posting stuff has jumped the shark long ago. Please!!!! Im kinda with Clinton Hill on this...The blog should really stay football related.

P

Posted by: OC Paul | May 10, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

CL--that massage with the rub n tug is looking pretty good right about now, wouldn't you say?

PD--you are either trying to piss people off, or you are unintentionally proficent.

Posted by: k Squared | May 10, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Its good to throw the mood a little bit, especially w/ soldiers over seas.

My Step-Brother is in Irag (AGAIN!), and if we ever talk wheather it be in person, phone, or email, it's generally about what's going on back in the states. Same thing with people in jail. They wanna laugh like the rest of us. Life still goes on and they want to be very much part of that life. Relax. Sheesh!

The 1st, 2nd, thing gets me as close as to middle/high school as ever would at my age now, so I do it knowingly going in it would seem to be childesh, but hay; some of you laugh at us right? Well then, my job is done....

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

18Th??

Posted by: homless_Guy_In_DC | May 10, 2007 02:40 PM

Dude's so homeless he can't buy an 'e'!

Posted by: T | May 10, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I agree I don't want to disparage Brian's post any longer. Although I think it was appropriate for JLaC to post. The aftermath has been an embaressment.

Posted by: chris larry | May 10, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

"Jack Bauer Camp" makes "Guantanamo Bay" sound like a weekend retreat in the Hamptons.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The Supreme Court ruled unanimously that Jack Bauer's methods were "cruel and unusual punishment". The next day the Supreme Court had nine vacancies.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

WARNING - PEDANTIC HISTORY TEACHER POST:

I'm an historian and a history teacher so here's my spin:

There is no truth in history there is only facts and how you choose to use those facts. The author of this screed has chosen a very particular spin on the wars against the Barbary States. As with most arm chair historians, he/she chooses to only use the facts that support a theory they conncocted ahead of time. Anyone with a high school history text and a computer could do the same. It sounds good because it has names and dates and events that actually happened so it must be the "truth" right?

It's this kind of two dimesional thinking and knowledge that gets us into trouble in the first place. Beyond that, we as a culture are notoriously ignorant of our own history much less that of the rest of the world.

The history or North African empires ranges far back in time and the actions of the Barbary states vis a vis their neighbors to the north and south were not significantly different than the empires that came before for example Rome and Egypt. The implication in the article is that piracy and the slave trade happened because the Barbary states were Muslim. That the conquests occured because they were Muslim. That would like arguing that the American Revolution was exclusively about freedom or the Civil War was fought to end slavery. A shallow view at best.

As Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce said "It takes a thousand voices to tell a single story." This article is only one voice in a thousand, a poorly informed voice at that.

Posted by: sfskin | May 10, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

In an attempt to lighten the mood, I give you, Mr. Ron Burgandy:

Ron Burgundy: The Germans discovered it in 1904, and they called it "San Diego", which in German means "whale's v*gina".

Veronica Corningstone: No, I don't think that is what it means. No, it doesn't mean that.

Ron Burgundy :I don't know. I was just trying to impress you. I don't think anyone knows what it means anymore. The translation was lost hundreds of years ago.

Veronica Corningstone : Doesn't it mean "Saint Diego"?

Ron Burgundy : ...No. No, that isn't it.
Veronica Corningstone : No, I'm pretty sure that's what it means.

Ron Burgundy : Agree to disagree.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | May 10, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

If Jack Bauer was president, he would protect the secret service.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Thank you sfskin, thank you!

Posted by: chris larry | May 10, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

So... umm... anyone see any good movies lately?

Posted by: Max Power | May 10, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, chris Larry...
waaaaay too pissed off to get into writing what I want to write, plus I know it's a can of worms and I'd end up posting my rants from now until this time tomorrow... At this point, anything that can be interpreted as supporting the criminal acts of the Bush administration will cause this response from me, so I'll just say that
We can and must support our troops without supporting this 'president' and his code of corruption, manipulation, and idiocy

Posted by: Diesel | May 10, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

There are two hands that can beat a royal flush. Jack Bauer's right hand and Jack Bauer's left hand.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

looks like i've been missing out on some pretty exciting posting here.

The war subject is always tough...alot of different feelings/opinions on the subject.

My boss was shot in an ambush this past weekend over there (Afghanistan)...she is going to be OK. She got very lucky.

I don't think you actually "feel" it until it's someone you know that gets hurt or worse.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 10, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I think it's good for folks to debate as long as they respect each other's views and not get overly defensive.

Speaking of Defense...the skins could use one.

GO SKINS

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 10, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Brian I hope you make it home safe.

PDSquared, you are an idiot of the highest order. Extremism is the real enemy we face today, Muslim, Christian or other. Stop using this blog to show off how uniformed and intellectually lazy you are.

Posted by: Mac in Richmond | May 10, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow... Santana Moss talked to the media today. He said JC has improved to the extent that they are "light years" ahead of where they were last year. He was highly complimentary of the progress JC has made in the offseason and sounded really refreshed and upbeat.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

BTW dealer thanks for the compliment. I would make a lousy politician. Yeah I've got the ego and the arrogance but I can't obfuscate, equivocate or prevaricate that much.

I do tell my students that my ambition is to become Queen of the World and that I'm using teaching as a way to build an army of minions. I'm not sure they know how little or much I'm kidding. : )

Posted by: sfskin | May 10, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne - There is a big disconnect between americans with family members going there and ones who don't know anyone. Our threshold for violence (video games/movies/etc.) has desensitize us from reality. Especially when you hear on a daily '30 people killed in an explusion today'...

If it wasn't for my criminal record I would have joined in a second once 9/11 happened because I believe in and love my country. But, the US of A has too many rules that wouldn't allow me in.

That being said, I respect what you folks do and I can't take it really, anymore. I see too many young faces dying and would gladly replace those if they would let me in. But, I can't do anything, so I blog and try to uplift those I come across. TO uplift does not mean being politically correct on a Redskin Blog.......

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

You know it's kind of a weird situation. Many of the troops over there actually want to be over there.

I think people get the vision of these soldiers being dragged kicking and screaming into a war zone. Most of the time it is not the case. I know even on this base which is not well known for deployments, people are begging to go over and do their part.

I think if they came up and said "if anyone wants to leave-they can leave" you would be suprised how many would stay behind.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | May 10, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Coach Gibbs also addressed the media. He said he's had no contact, whatsoever, with Sean Taylor. He said "he's not aware of anything there."

He said regarding Shawn Springs, they had made up their minds that they were going to proceed this year with their "normal situation," contractually and otherwise. He said he and Shawn had talked quite a bit, but lost contact a couple of weeks ago.

He said he's disappointed that they're not there and that it helps when you know what the situation is with all the players. He was asked if there'd been any contact with the players' agents and he said that he hadn't talked with Next Question himself, but that "everybody else" has talked w/ Next Question, and they're not aware of any problems.

In other words, move along, there's nothing to see here. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

It was a fine post. The Tillman angle makes it relevant and gives it a football connection. Brian's post was apolitical, it was a Soldier's perspective.

Thanks Brian, for your service to your country and the enormous personal sacrifice it entails.

The article post by PDSquared included a citation at the top and it is even set up with an invitation to skip it, but it clearly touched a nerve.

While I don't necessarily agree with PDS's conclusions/generalizations, it would be a shame to self-censor or pass stringent blog bylaws prohibiting free speech.

The truth is Soldiers give up this right to protect out right to post on RI.

For those who would discuss football-only, its a long, long off-season.

Posted by: Stumped | May 10, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

NEW BLOG THIS IS SHIIT..WE DON"T CARE ABOUT THIS

Posted by: Shawn | May 10, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Great post Brian - sorry it's taken a bit of a tailspin - Go Skins anyway and be safe.

Well said sfskin.

Cheyenne - Doesn't it come down to the soldiers wanting to fight with their buddies - help keep them safe - more than alot of the political bs behind the war?

Posted by: skinswest | May 10, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Stupid humans, killing each other and trying to do it my name. No religious sect is right.

You have been tricked by other humans who craved power and you all worship false prophets.

Pack light for your trips south, allof you , Muslims, Christians, Jews, and worse of all Star Wars idolizers.

Posted by: god | May 10, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

god said, "worse of all Star Wars idolizers."

Dear god,

That was out of line. Please apologize.

Posted by: Clinton Hill | May 10, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Why the F*ck are soo many people apologizing? I don't get it. Do you think the dude is weeping because someone farted on the blog or what? It's the offseason.

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I served in the I Can't Believe It's Yogurt store, 2nd shift manager, retired. It was hard duty but I did it for freedom and country.

What I did is better than anything that any of you did who did not work for I Can't Believe It's Yogurt. You are not as patriotic as I.

Believe me, when those high schoolers came in asking for extra sprinkles it was hell. We lost some good employees. But we served proudly, without any questions that made us serve unquestioningly without question-- for freedom.

Freedom. It tastes like Bush's ass.

Posted by: Commander | May 10, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"WASHINGTON REDSKINS

How will the addition of LaRon Landry improve the Redskins weak pass rush?

Landry teams with Pro Bowler Sean Taylor to give the Skins arguably the best safety tandem in the NFL. Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams loves to bring pressure from all angles and now has more options with Landry and Taylor possessing the same set of skills in the back end. Each can play in the deep middle of the field and both are skilled blitzers off the edge. Williams is a disciple of Buddy Ryan and Jeff Fisher, who both used the "46" defense extensively to pressure the quarterback. With the addition of Landry and the increased confidence in their corners -- Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers and Fred Smoot -- the Redskins will increase their sack totals by relying on exotic blitzes instead of sitting back in conventional coverage."

I hope you guys realize we are not running Tampa/Cover 2 anymore as our primary defense. I have seen no one discuss this yet....

Posted by: ES via SI.com | May 10, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Case in point is my jewish friend who is Iranian. They had to flee the Sha of Iran in the 80's because he was purging all non-muslims in the country. IHHO he said we should be in Iran right now stopping Ahmadinejad.

Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 02:58 PM
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Brian-

I would like to thank you for fighting for the U.S. Military, the primary purpose of which is to secure my freedoms, and the freedom of people like PDSquared to remain ignorant and write prolifically about issues he doesn't understand.

PDSquared-

I applaud you! You made me laugh out loud. The image of the Shah of Iran running around persecuting Jews in 1980's Iran is hilarious on a number of levels.

Were you aware that Jews prospered more under the last Shah of Iran than during any other?

Were you aware of the Shah being deposed in 1979?

PDSquared, please keep using your freedom to post inane comments about history and politics, because your ignorance, grammar and spelling amuse just about everybody on this blog.

God Bless America, this blog and PDSquared. I have had my laugh for the day.

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

All-NBA First Team
(First-team votes in parentheses)
Pos. Player, Team Votes
F Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (125) 634
F Tim Duncan, San Antonio (94) 573
C Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix (36) 494
G Steve Nash, Phoenix (129) 645
G Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (128) 643


Second Team
Pos Player, Team Votes
F LeBron James, Cleveland (64) 494
F Chris Bosh, Toronto (8) 234
C Yao Ming, Houston (38) 333
G Gilbert Arenas, Washington 295
G Tracy McGrady, Houston (10) 278


Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

My brother doesn't want to be over there and doesn't care about the people he's there with... does that mean his voice represents the voice of everyone over there? We all have our own stories and experiences...

I don't read this blog for this kind of dialog, but it seems there's varying humble and not so humble opinions on the subject. I've grown to respect a lot of the regulars here for their opinions, open mindedness and a Ron Burgundy-ish (thanks for the quote BTW) ability to agree to disagree on the realms outside of all things Redskins. Swap emails if you want that discussion to take place. Blaw or not, its seems pretty ridiculous to get into these heated discussions in this kind of forum.

I miss my brother, I love the Redskins.

The Dorf Abides

Posted by: Dorf | May 10, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Dorf - My brother is over there becuase at my house you had 3 options after graduating high school.

1. Go to college by any means necessary
2. Go into the military
3. Live in a homeless shelter

I chose #1 (twice) and my brother choose #2 (my step father kicks himself in the a$$ everytime he thinks about his stupid rule since my brother went in before 9/11)

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Did I miss the 24 conversation while I was out this week? No, I think we talked about it?

My question is, Who is the New Head of CTU that they have been talking about that is coming in over the past 3 hours?? It has to be someone from the past, but everyone is dead???

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Lastly,... is that I think we should be fighting this war. Now I think Bush or the people he chose to run it are F-ing it up big time. But the threat is real and it will not go away with diplomacy since these radical islamists are hell bent on destroying us.


Posted by: PDSquared | May 10, 2007 03:36 PM

PDSquared

Of course there is a real threat.

And thereare Radical Islamists--many more than there use dto be, thanks to Bush. There HAS BEEN a real threat from Al Qaeda since 9/11. It's headquartered in Afghanistan and environs, it is lead by bin Laden and it deserves to be wiped out.

This is why when a sitting Presidnet lied to the American public repeatedly, invaded a nation that did NOT attack us, and essentially let the Taliban have their run, I get upset. Four plus years later the same president and administration that lied to us through his teeth about WMD and our reasons for attacking the country that did not attack us wants his, oh say 30th Mulligan on the same misbegotten war.

I served in the Air Force, spend time in Vietnam. I've earned my right to speak up and not be attacked by Bushies as non-Patriotic for pointing out their uncountable screwups in their "War on Terror."

Follow us home? We're goddam lucky we have not been repeatedly attacked. Homeland security would fark up a two-hotdog picnic, our military has the lowest morale immaginable, our soldiers are forced to live in squalor at Walter Reed, Bush claimed the Dems would extend them and the next day extended them to 15 months, the Guard and Reserves have been stripped. I don't support Impeaching Bush. I support turning his sorry ass over to Geneva for War Crimes prosecution. My dog could lead a better war on terror. The only positive thing Bush ahs done is create more enemy for people like you to hate. You bomb, you invade, you imprison, you torture, you refuse to leave their country--funny, people tend to think less of you.

Trust me Squared, I'm in favor of National Security. Which is why I dont' want the boobs and nincompoops running it now to get me and you and the rest of us killed with their incompetence, greed and criminal activities.

In case you missed it while you were twisting history to fit your argument, 11 Republicans trotted up to the WHite House to tell Bush he's a boob. Then Dick Cheney had to tell him the Fine Government over there is happy to let our soldiers bleed some more while they take two months off this summer. (Maybe Bush can invite them to the ranch to help him clear brush?)

PD your time would be better spent turning to the Light and getting all remnants of the incompetent yahoos in the WHite House out now, rather than repeating the propaganda of the Far RIght.

Posted by: CORKCZAR | May 10, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I guess I did blow up the blog. We got too many people being mad at other paeople OVER THE INTERNET for small stuff. Y'all need to come back here and start debating some skins' stuff.

I'm out!

Peace in the Middle East!

Posted by: ES | May 10, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Jason keep this SH*t to yourself...stop making this a political blog or a place for you to share your day with your family...Keep it this a Redskins blog...If there is no Skins news, talk about other sports or other NFL topics.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Well said CORKCZAR, Well Said

Posted by: DC in DC | May 10, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be nice if Jason could just answer one pertinent Redskins question each day?

I'd like to know what Sean Taylor's contract currently offers him. Is this public knowledge? Would Rosenhaus be willing to provide this information? Is there a clause in the contract that prevents either side from revealing the exact details?

Even though it is the offseason, there are plenty of questions about the Skins that could be answered.

That said, I love Jason's work and I'm glad he posts something here just about every day, even when he's off for the week. When you think that there's a guy at the Washington Times hired to do the same job who does maybe a 10th of the work... Jason is criminally under-appreciated.

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

CORKCZAR - A-frickin-men!

Now, How about that Casey Bramlet?

Posted by: skinswest | May 10, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

If anyone has already posted this link regarding Sean Taylor's no-show, I apologize.

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05/10/uh-oh-sean-taylor-shuns-redskin-workout/

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

mugamack--

That blog looks like it was pieced together from some of the crap we've been putting up over the last few days.

It doesn't even have its facts straight: "Hopefully this gets resolved soon so that Taylor and Landry can get some work together." Landry, and the other rookies, aren't even here. They can't practice until their class graduates.

Posted by: KK | May 10, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

So Gibbs says Springs is the one who cut off contact... that can't be good.

Springs always seemed like a level-headed guy about his contractual issues. I think both sides have good arguments in his situation, but if he starts cutting off all contact, I will not be able to continue to hold him in high esteem.

Is dcsween on vacation? We could use a good dcsween post about now...

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

KK, I agree, that first link was weak. But the second one is really interesting - I expect the folks at the Post will have something up about it soon (hopefully a new post here).

I think Sean Taylor's beef will get worked out, but if Sean Springs of all people has gone AWOL, the Skins are in trouble.

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

There are a number of RI "blog police" all in a tizzy over one person's comments about the "war on terror". It's seems that only certian political viewpoints will be tolerated here.

CORKCZAR rants that PDSquared "repeats the propaganda of the Far Right". Yet he writes as if what he has the only rational point of view.

While I tend to agree that this blog's emphasis should be the Redskins. This is still the USA and we are all entitled to express our OPINIONS!

Posted by: OfficerPC | May 10, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

For those who focus on spelling and grammar: "certian" s/b "certain".

And, "Yet he writes as if what he has the only rational point of view." s/b w/o the word "what".


Posted by: OfficerPC | May 10, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Moss, Sellers, and Portis are positively *raving* about Jason Campbell on Comcast. Randle El said he dropped a ball today because he came out of his route and the ball was right there, and he wasn't expecting it to be.

Sounds like JC's coming along pretty well.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

111th?

Posted by: SantanaClaus89 | May 10, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Well, for what it's worth...as I mentioned last night....Kelli Johnson with Comcast Sports Nite said she spoke with Shawn Springs yesterday and he told her everything was good and that he would be in DC soon.

Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Agreed on the quality of the two links. Thanks for looking them up and sharing. Don't tell Lisa, but Springs isn't going to be a 'Skin much longer, and I think both sides recognize it and are moving on.

Posted by: KK | May 10, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

mugamuck,

From listening to Coach Gibbs, I don't know that ST has a beef. Rosenhaus hasn't communicated to the team that there is a problem of any kind. Seems like instead of us behaving as if it's an anomaly that ST isn't at OTAs this year, we should regard last year as such when he was here for everything.

The entire interview is on the front page at Redskins.com. Check it out.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Spings, not Sean Springs, should be the issue from this point forward, and to a lesser degree Sean Taylor.

Let's get back to disagreeing about the Redskins, a much more enjoyable non-productive activity.

Couldn't The Post send someone after Shawn Springs to get his side of the story? His agent is refusing to comment? What does that mean?

What does silence get Shawn Springs? Is he trying to highlight his contractual issue? I just watched Joe Gibbs' press conference on Redskins.com and Gibbs seems willing to move forward with Shawns $7.2 mil for 2007. Shawn should get his butt into camp and hold Gibbs to that statement. That makes more sense than silence and failure to appear, right?

The Post needs to get on this - they must have a connection in Arizona who can track this down.

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I think Springs is just waiting until June 1st passes to make sure there are no surprises. Gibbs has now said publicly that the Redskins had decided to move forward this year with Springs as his contract dictates. If they cut him, he will show himself to be a liar to the world. I don't really see that happening. It may, but I don't see it.

Springs is probably feeling uncertain. And, who can blame him after having a rough season last year, being asked to take a pay cut, and hearing his name involved in 50 different trade scenarios?

I think he should be here too, but I'm not surprised that he's not -- at least right now.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Lisa-

I saw what you wrote about Kelli Johnson's report last night. It actually put me at ease at the time.

But the Gibbs press conference spins it differently. I wonder when Kelli talked to Springs. I wonder if she could get ahold of him again...

On another note, everyone loves Soup! Gibbs wasn't exactly gushing about Soup in his press conference, but he sure was praising his work ethic and newfound quickness.

Seems like Soup may have clicked into the Saunders offense. I remember reading about receivers being surprised how quickly the ball arrived in their hands as they completed their routes when Todd Collins was showing off the system during training camp last year.

The fact that Soup is now being praised for his quickness by Gibbs and receivers are shocked how quickly the ball is arriving is the best news I've gotten all day. Between this and PDSquared's hilarious post about the Shah, I'm in a great mood.

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

JustMe-

I hope you are right about Sean Taylor. I think we might be making a mountain out of a molehill on the issue of his no-show here, but I'd love for his agent to come out and say so.

I really wish there was better reporting on these issues. Why is it no reporter has gotten a statement from Taylor, Springs, or either of their agents on these issues? Not even anything anonymous? Isn't Howard Bryant working this week? Why is it he thinks these issues don't merit true reporting?

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, I appreciate your affinity for Springs, but what else is he going to say?

Posted by: k Squared | May 10, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

mugamack, Kelli said she spoke with Shawn Springs YESTERDAY and he told her he would be here soon and that he would be a Redskin. Take it for what it's worth.

The players tend to speak to Comcast more readily than the Post. Comcast and the Skins have a show together "Monday Night Live" which is on every Monday night during the season (before MNF). Springs was a co-host for two seasons and has a relationship with the Sports Nite crew.

Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

mugamack,

The thing that makes me feel that there probably isn't a problem (yet, anyway)is that Rosenhaus has at least one other client who is not participating in his team's OTAs, and Rosenhaus has made a statement to the media that the player (I can't think of his name right now, for some reason) will be sitting out due to contract issues.

Hopefully, Landry's contract won't be the beginning of a problem.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

So Spings might be showing up, Taylor isn't holding out yet, AND PDSquared thinks the Shah was persecuting Jews during the 80's in Iran?

Life is beautiful.

Posted by: mugamack | May 10, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I agree with JustMe, I think Springs is feeling uncertain. I'm sure he did sit down with Gibbs in AZ and they came to an understanding and all was well. He probably planned to attend the OTAs. Then as recent as 2 weeks ago his name resurfaced in trade rumors again. If the Skins have fooled around with the stupid trade talks and lose him it will almost serve them right if they have a losing season.

I'm not saying this just because I like him so much. I'm saying it because they did not go out and get Clements, Bly, or Samuel. So we would have Rogers, Smoot, and Macklin as DBs. Does that trio really scare anyone? I love Smoot to death but.....

Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

PDSquared

Being black and Muslim I think it give me a right to respond to you. Without question you are a non informed idiot! How in the hell are you going to speak on something you know nothing about. To post something and at the same time admits you never read the Qu ran really makes you look stupid! If you want to talk about people being put into bondage and sold off as cattle I suggest your stupid ass take a look at American history. We (black people) lost over 100 million just in the journey over here. You may want to look at how many black people was killed and lynch just for being black. Oh I forgot it so much easier to talk about other people instead of looking at yourself. I suggest you take a look at the Christian crusades. Were people were killed and murder under the name of Christianity. Go and learn some history before you put up your damn ass commits. People through out history have been killed under the name of different religious banners. But want earn you a smack to the back of your damn, stupid, and unlearned ass is to post that bs instead of sending your thoughts and prayers out to Brain and those that are fighting. Get a f life you loser.

Posted by: jm220 | May 10, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Was wonderin' when JM220 was gonna weigh in...well said.

Posted by: chr | May 10, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Sorry some of you couldn't make it out to happy hour the other day, we had a blast! Weren't those chicken wings great? And how about the potato skins, fabulous!. Would it help if I gave earlier notice? Anyway, it was great to see some of you, can't wait until we do it again.

Posted by: JJ | May 10, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm not worried about Taylor or Springs, I think they'll both be back in uniform, and playing for the Skins this year. If Springs is absent because of the uncertainly of his position with the team, I can understand it, and have no beef with it. Regardless of what Taylor's excuse is, I'm disappointed in him. I love hearing about how good Soupy is looking, and it just shows what can happen when you take the time to make an effort to improve in your chosen profession, rather than expect the improvement to come because you are a gifted athlete. We all love the Reaper, but if he showed that sort of committment to the Skins, and his game, he would be adored.

Posted by: kost52 | May 10, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Brian, thanks for your service.

The sort of cliff notes problem I see with Radical Islam (one not easliy solved) is that it only offers fundamental followers three main choices when interacting with non-beleivers over the long term.
(1) Convert them to Islam, (2) Enslave them (3) Kill them. One Islamic leader hundreds of years ago got around this by "taxing" people of other religions living in Muslim lands, but alas, when they could not pay, it was back to 1,2 or 3. This is fairly straight forward from what I understand and leaves very little wiggle room for compromise. In extremely poor and corrupt nations where life has less value than in the west, ideals 1, 2, & 3 can become marching orders for lost souls looking for a cause.

Also of concern, women have few or no rights under the fundamental rules, also a non-starter for most western cultures and increasingly a bad fit for wider world cultures. A secondary commentary is the general inability of the Muslim culture to shrug off past issues with other nations and faiths. So many generations of hatred are nearly impossible to reverse.

One hopes that a leader steps forward in that culture that creates an acceptable and less problematic fourth option for followers that prefer to practice the religion while still respecting the rights of others. I can understand that they want to avoid losing the traditional culture to western ideals, but there has to be a compromise somewhere...otherwise its a dark future.

Posted by: Cliff's Notes | May 10, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Man I am looking forward to watching JC under center for a full season. Sounds like he has been working hard this offseason and will give us a good chance to have the most exciting offense we had since 99. My only concern is that the line can hold up. Not a whole lot of depth, specifically behind Samuels and the LG spot being open to competition.

We have been making a big stink about not going after a DE who can rush the passer. I read this in the Washtimes and like the sound of it. Marcus at the DE and then using that back 7 depth. Maybe Marshall and RockyMac on the field at the same time? Smoot in there as the nickel, Prioleau or Stoutmire in the dime. I am cautiously optomistic that we could be looking at a well balanced team next year and have a good shot of getting back to the playoffs.

From Washtimes:
Once the 2004 Pro Bowl pick is back on the field, the Redskins plan to use him more often with his hand down in passing situations.
"We want to rush Marcus more," coach Joe Gibbs said.
That's fine with Washington, a defensive end as a senior at Auburn before switching to linebacker with Indianapolis, where he played his first four NFL seasons. Washington recorded a career-high eight sacks in 2001, his first year as a starter.
"I like being aggressive, I like attacking," Washington said with a grin. "It won't be so much re-routing guys and more of just reading the quarterback and going. When I first came into the league, I did more rushing than anything. I'm excited. I'm going to have to shake some of the rust off and really work that part of my game. It's going to be fun because you get to kind of cut it loose a little bit."

Posted by: cdubb | May 10, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Children, Children, Children,
Enough infighting about things very few of you REALLY know anything about.... Brian and any other man or woman in uniform honorably serving their country should be applauded for their efforts. That's just the way it is, regardless of whether you harbor conservative or liberal political views, so GET OVER IT. And while you're at it remember that, by and large, our troops ARE THE GOOD GUYS! Demeaning them by inferring that by joining a branch of the military is an indication that they are somehow inferior to other young people is HORSECRAP. I've lived both lives and can tell you that in times of trouble I'd much sooner have a vet or active duty serviceman by my side than most any college kid. Get a grip.

So drop your political biases, disagreements with foreign policy, etc., long enough to acknowledge that these men and women need our support and respect.
Secondly, Jason does a fine job trying to keep up with the proverbial multiple "irons in the fire". Not even the CIA could anticipate every move/deal the Redskins will make. I think he does a pretty darn good job "keeping up with the Snyders" as it were....

Posted by: Petehc | May 10, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey folks-let's just stick to football if we could on this blog. It's meant to be fun! No matter what our opinions on war or politics, we can share those on a bazillion other sites. This one is dedicated to our 'Skins, who are off-season conditioning their guts out right now.

I hear they're trying to trade Vinny Cerrato for a chimp. I think that would be a great trade. Then when they sign a free agent that turns into a real bust, you can't get mad. All you can say is "What the hell did you expect; the player personnel director is a CHIMP!!"

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | May 10, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

does anybody know how to get skid marks out of underwear?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Its so obvious jason is a republican bastard.

Posted by: carpetbagger | May 10, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Jason, save your support our troops bullsh*t for someplace else. I refuse to support troops who continues to fight for a policy of american colonialism.

HILLARY IN 08!!!!

Posted by: Flim899 | May 10, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow has this blog gone off the rails or what.....

Posted by: chris larry | May 10, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Tillman is a hero, but the members of the current administration are villians. PD you are an idiot. Muslims are peace loveing people who are victims of an evil american forieghn policy. Bush is behind 9/11, the truth will come out one day people, and will all feel like idiots for believing our greed driven government.

THE EPIDIMIC OF CAPITALISM MUST STOP

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Cheney/Rove in 08 baby!!!
F shillary

Posted by: Mr Ahole | May 10, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Muslims are peace loveing people who are victims of an evil american forieghn policy. Bush is behind 9/11, the truth will come out one day people, and will all feel like idiots for believing our greed driven government.

THE EPIDIMIC OF CAPITALISM MUST STOP

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 09:45 PM

you, sir, are a complete idiot. if, and thats a huge if, you are employed, i feel very sorry for your employer. how did you slip through the cracks, you ass.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Cdubb, that is a sweet post!! Now thats cuttin and pastin some useful stuff! I seem to remember Marvin Lewis doing the same thing with a fomer Redskin Linebacker. Dont quote me on the numbers but BY FAR it was L.A.s best season and he had double digit sacks! Better than him Marcus played DE in college!! NICE, haters keep hatin! GO SKINS!!!!!

Posted by: Football Anyone!!? | May 10, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

4-12, carpetbagger,

You guys need to go join rosie o'donnel and form some kind of wacky radical left organization.

Jeez, a little political debate is fine, but this radical leftist and right wing stuff is crazy. I did not think people really had ideas this crazy. What happened to the moderates in our country???

Posted by: Brutus | May 10, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Ok people, I don't believe this, you are teling me not one of you know how to get skid marks out?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Brandon Lloyd is picking up right where he left off, if his excuse for dropping a pass was that, when he came out of his break, the ball was right there, and he wasn't expecting it to be. Brandon Lloyd just came up with an excuse for dropping a perfectly thrown ball! He is singularly amazing! I am really starting to love this dude.

I hope he and Double Move line up opposite each other in practice. Every time a ball is thrown to that side and harmlessly drops to the ground somewhere in their vicinity, they can both strut back to the line talking jibba-jabba about the catch they could have made. They should be miked up!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 10, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

There have been like four Kelli Johnson comments up here and not ONE "Strawberry Shortcake" comment from P Diddy! What is happening up here??

Come back with my blog!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | May 10, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

No Name,
you sir are a complete idiot if you believe the lies that bush and the greedy capitolist white men in this country have attempted to sell to the public.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Nate, take it easy... At least he is at practice tryin to catch! Hail

Posted by: RELAX! | May 10, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah I forgot,

HILLARY IN 08

Lets put an end to the insanity.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Ok people, I don't believe this, you are teling me not one of you know how to get skid marks out?

Posted by: | May 10, 2007 09:57 PM

buy a new pair you dirtbag

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

No Name,
you sir are a complete idiot if you believe the lies that bush and the greedy capitolist white men in this country have attempted to sell to the public.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 10:00 PM

Ok 4-12 that statement is completely JACKED UP and RACIST. It people like you that give the demecratic party a bad name. Stop repping Hilary cause you dont represent anything she stands for.

Posted by: Brutus | May 10, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Uh...Nate. It was Randle El who was talking about dropping the pass, not Lloyd. Take a deep breath. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Nate, before you going jumping all over Brandon...it was NOT Brandon who made that comment...it was Randel El. Randel El laughed and said JC had improved so much that his timing was good and he was not expecting the ball on time so dropped it.

You are bashing the wrong cat.

Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

bush may be an idiot but to suggest he is behind the murder of 3000+ american citizens makes you out to be an even bigger idiot.

regardless of your opinion on the war if you can't support troops who protect the freedoms you have in this country you should hit the road. we'll be better off without people like you.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Player comments from today's Comcast Sportsnet SportsNite broadcast:

http://midatlantic.comcastsportsnet.com/video.asp?category=redskins

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Well this is one way to get rid of the Cowboys fan.

Circle the wagons regulars.

The Crown 'em game is on NFL Net. I never get tired of this comedy.

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Jason, save your support our troops bullsh*t for someplace else. I refuse to support troops who continues to fight for a policy of american colonialism.

HILLARY IN 08!!!!

Posted by: Flim899 | May 10, 2007 09:38 PM

Allright flim, as a current member of our armed forced I recent that statement. Many soldiers dont believe in the war and joined up before the bush administration took office. We have know choice to do our duty becuase we swore an oath to obey the decisions made by the president. Protest the war but support the troops. The troops are just doing their job. You also should stop repping Hilary, cause she supports the troops.

Posted by: Brutus | May 10, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I remember watching that game on MNF. I didn't give a hoot about either team, but I couldn't turn it off and go to bed. The horror of all horrors. I'll bet Dennis Green still has nightmares about that one.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

It's so exciting to hear the good reports about Soupy!

Posted by: kost52 | May 10, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Yeah JustMe, it's cracking me up listening to TK and Joey going at it. No wonder they didn't let that ride this year.

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

No Springs?
Who cares, they are going to get rid of his salary and injuries anyway.

No Sean Taylor?
Well now, all the excitement of draft day thinking about LF, LL and ST keeping the middle clear for us is already wearing off, isn't it?

Posted by: Redsklin Ray | May 10, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I been watchin this REDSKINS blog most of the day. All the controversy, all the ugliness over different views. Lets get on the same page about the Sorry cowgirls. That is an organization devoted to the destruction of the Redskins and the freedom we enjoy as their fans! Lets unite on this Blog and destroy those like... SMACK!!!! Hail to the 3 wins out of the last 4 game SKINS over those dreaded Cowpies!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: stinka$$ cowpukes | May 10, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Could you possibly destroy me with a more convenient moniker? I don't have all fn night.

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

stinka$$ cowpukes - Nothing wrong with having SMACK around! When we beat them later in the year, it gives us someone to bag out! haha

Posted by: kost52 | May 10, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Also, what in the world is Cris Carter doing talking about the Skins and Gibbs losing touch with them? Last I heard he has not played in years - just does Inside the NFL.

He actually mentioned Bill Belichick, Shananhan, and Cowher as coaches who would never lose touch with their players.

Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Easy enough for ya? You bandwagagon fan. Started pullin for the Boys the 77 season? OOOH yeah, they won th Superbowl at the end of that season. Why are you on this Blog? Cowpunk fans dont even want your bandwagon butt. Oh wait, half of them jumped on about the same time you did. Hope I kept the moniker SIMPLE enough for ya!!! SEE FOLKS! Is this not way more fun than all that serious BS, and I mean BS above on this REDSKINS! blog!!!! HAIL!!!! Go Skins!

Posted by: C2 | May 10, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I started following the Skins because the first game I saw was the Superbowl win over the Bills. Does that make me a bandwagon fan? Maybe I should leave.....

Posted by: kost52 | May 10, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

No, it means you should go try and pass your drivers test youngin!! At least you are on a Redskin Blog as a Skins fan. Or are you? Takin up for Smack that way, maybe your a sorry Dallas fan in burgundy and gold!!

Posted by: C2 | May 10, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Yeah JustMe, it's cracking me up listening to TK and Joey going at it. No wonder they didn't let that ride this year.

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2007 10:24 PM

********************************

Yeah, they did not mesh well together at all. I was just shocked when TK was kept while Joey T was sent packing. I love Theismann because he's a huge homer, but I can't say I like him much in the booth. But, he definitely has the better look for TV, hence the surprise -- especially since they don't exactly let TK completely be himself, so they're not even getting the best TK for their money.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to MNF next season. Jaws should be great.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Cris Carter is an idiot. I'm not even sure why he's on Inside the NFL, let alone invited to make guest appearances on other shows.

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

This place is loaded with Chooches.

Posted by: Alpha Nate Dog | May 10, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

WTF???!!! This is the second time that some assclown has come up here and posted some stupid a$$ b.s. under my blog-name. SERIOUSLY!! That's just total crap, and all the blog regulars who know me know I'd never write that shti. CYN CITY...somebody...anybody....JLaC. Take down all these fake-a$$ "4-12" postings from this evening. F you, fake-a$$ poster using my name. You're a piece of shti

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm 30 next week mate, my driver's test is long passed, although going from the dents in my car, maybe I need to redo it!

No, I'm not a Dallas fan, I hate the Cowboys as much as the next Skins fan, and probably for different reasons to what you guys do. But yeah I enjoy having SMACK on this blog, like I enjoy having people who support other teams on here as well, from what I can remember I think there were some Eagles/Texans fans in here too. Sometimes it's good to have an outsiders perspective of the Skins. It's also good fun to be able to remind SMACK of Romo's bobble, LaVar retiring Aikman etc. If he's gone, how are you going to enjoy ribbing about it? Also, you may have noticed, but the Redskins, and the NFL aren't the only things that get discussed in here!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

That was me, sorry.

Posted by: kost52 | May 10, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Kost, if you read the way way waaaaay tooo serious stuff that was goin on earlier you would understand the sarcasm. I was trying to focus some fun energy on an ENEMY we can all agree on and not people CUSSING each other and denegrating each other for having political views. SMACK is a big boy and can take it. Oh, and should absolutely expect it, being a Cow... ugh... boy fan. I thought it would be way more fun to focus on our football mortal enemy then tryin to figure out the relevance of Thomas Jefferson to the SKINS! Hail!!!!

Posted by: C2 | May 10, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

By the way Kost, unless your Smacks life partner. AND NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT! Let him speak for himself, Stinkin Cowboy sus afruss arussin....

Posted by: C2 | May 10, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

C2, Sorry mate, thought you were seriously trying to get rid of him, and I've been getting a little frustrated with the negativity around lately.

I didn't really read too much of the above stuff, I don't really know too much about your politics, and thought it would be pretty silly of me to weigh in on something I know very little about.

Posted by: kost52 | May 10, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

how about sean taylor retiring randy moss this year when we play new england

Posted by: Dante | May 10, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

well this has been a productive day...

daveb55 always knew how to say it best. I could use his words of wisdom at this point.

ES- my father was a Navy captain so I had the same options as you. I picked #1 and my bro picked #2 pre 9/11. He re-enlisted after a spell in Afghanistan though so he can't complain too much about being over in Iraq.

Posted by: Dorf | May 10, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

No worries Kost. I was in the military, was in Iraq for Bush/Saddam first go around. AND I DONT UNDERSTAND OUR POLITICS! But I know I loooove my SKINS! Win, lose or draw!!!

Posted by: C2 | May 10, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

"Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed."


If this is truly one of the rules, then I expect to see that garbage posted under my name removed. Otherwise, F it. I'm done. All the negative crap has turned something fun into something that smells like my baby's diaper in the morning (not so fun!).

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Whew! Good news about Shawn coming to camp in the WP article.

Can we stop talking about the Middle East (as important as it is) on this blog? It's been too ugly here.

Thanks for the Comcast link JustMe. I live out west.

Posted by: charlie | May 10, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

You're welcome, charlie. :-)

Posted by: JustMe | May 10, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Fake 4-12 poster, you are a complete idiot. Everyone who visits this blog regularly knows I would never say the crap you are posting under my name. Only cowards hide their opinions under other peoples signatures.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Nice Charlie, I am mounting an offensive against those Stinkin Cowpokes! U with me!? Hail!!

Posted by: C2 | May 10, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

HMMMM, 4-12 u have given me an idea. I will be right back!!!! .........

Posted by: C2 | May 10, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

4-12 They're a bunch of wankers aren't they? You'd probably find that the arguement above between "No Name" and the fake "4-12" was the same low life, just stirring up shti!

J-La, surely there's something to be done about this??

Posted by: kost52 | May 10, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS ARE THE GREATEST SPORTS FRANCHISE IN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

kost- It's the 2nd time it's happened. I don't get it. But it's part of the reason I haven't been up here much recently.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Fake 4-12 poster, you are a complete idiot. Everyone who visits this blog regularly knows I would never say the crap you are posting under my name. Only cowards hide their opinions under other peoples signatures.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 11:20 PM


While I apprecitate the sentiment, this too is not from me. Tough to ITA when they're using you're name. Kost and charlie, have a good night. jm220- There's a troll up here that's in need of a serious beatdown with the hammer.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 10, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

seems to me from the wash post article that springs will be reporting to the ota's after june 1st.... i.e. if he isn't a cap casualty then he will show up

Posted by: dante | May 10, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

does anybody know how to get diarehia out of a pillow case?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2007 11:38 PM | Report abuse

No springs, No taylor, so what.

WE HAVE EVENS and this is going to be his best year as a backup. Mark it down.

Posted by: Brutus | May 10, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Can you send me an e-mail? I lost your address. (Though I won't be able to respond until tomorrow.)

- The bicycle guy.

Posted by: charlie | May 10, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Why is it, that the only OTA absences reported on ESPN are the Redskins? We aren't the only team with absentees! For example, the Jags have four players absent, and all are starters!

JustMe (I think) - You mentioned earlier that Next Question had a client who was holding out, I think it was Jacksonville's OG Chris Naeole

Posted by: kost52 | May 11, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I in no way meant for this post to be political. I am not a political person at all. I was asked in a previous blog to talk about how I felt about the Pat Tillman situation and thats just what I did. I wasnt trying to talk about Afghanistan. I give a little insight to how it affected a soldier that had a dream to play football but ended up being a Soldier. To those of you who enjoyed my post, I say Thank you. To those of you who were offended or upset or thought it was political, Im sorry. Go Skins

Posted by: SKINSAND8FAN | May 11, 2007 12:30 AM | Report abuse

I like ice cream, I like ice cream, how 'bout you? how 'bout you? Topped with chocolate syrup, topped with chocolate syrup, whipped cream too...whipped cream too. (Frere Jacques)

Good blog man, I enjoy hearing it like it is. On a lighter note, what hall of fame is in Cooperstown? some soccer thing i'm sure.

Posted by: RedfacedFanman | May 11, 2007 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Man, did I pick the wrong day to check back into the Blog.

Posted by: Paps in Manila | May 11, 2007 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Bummer about Nehemiah. Kid was a human bowling ball. Always played tough. Hope he's able to come back from the ACL tear.

Posted by: mugamack | May 11, 2007 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Maybe its time for JLC and Cindy to see about upgrading the blog software where we would have to register our names and email addresses, no jacking of signatures, remove the potential for lots of A$$clowns and casual trolling, less scrolling through hundreds of msgs on the same page, etc.

This is probably a big deal for WaPo but today is a perfect example with what is wrong with this system.

That said, HAIL to all the reg peeps.

Posted by: Paps in Manila | May 11, 2007 1:19 AM | Report abuse

++++CORKCZAR rants that PDSquared "repeats the propaganda of the Far Right". Yet he writes as if what he has the only rational point of view.


Posted by: OfficerPC | May 10, 2007 06:31 PM+++

Um Dude? I didn't say what I said was the only rational point of view. So if you're criticizing me for that, it's probably because you interpreted it to be the only rational point of view and can't argue against it.

Look, I hate political posts on sports boards. And I used to, but I will never again start one. But as one who believess silence means assent, I'll be more than happy to respond to them.

It's not like the 'skins don't have enough issues for us fine minds to solve.

Posted by: CORKCZAR | May 11, 2007 1:49 AM | Report abuse

JustMe (I think) - You mentioned earlier that Next Question had a client who was holding out, I think it was Jacksonville's OG Chris Naeole

Posted by: kost52 | May 11, 2007 12:15 AM
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kost,

The person I was thinking of was Jacksonville's DE, Bobby McCray. He's a restricted free agent, but wants to get paid now.
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/042407/jag_9417412.shtml

Posted by: JustMe | May 11, 2007 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Landry may be able to get the #30 uniform after all:

Broughton Suffers Knee InjuryBy Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com May 10, 2007


Fullback Nehemiah Broughton suffered a knee ligament injury during an OTA practice this week.

The team will update his status in the coming days, but it is likely that he will be placed on injured reserve.

In two seasons with the Redskins, Broughton has had limited NFL action. He started his career as a backup to Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright, but he transitioned to fullback last season.

Broughton was on the practice squad most of last season, but he was promoted to the 53-man roster for the Redskins' season finale against the New York Giants. He played on special teams, recording two tackles.

The Redskins drafted Broughton (nicknamed "Nemo") in the seventh round of the 2005 NFL Draft. He played his college ball at The Citadel.

Posted by: The Crickets | May 11, 2007 3:04 AM | Report abuse

JustMe:

Nice job on Thursday digging up some good articles/stories and providing the associated links. "The Crickets" always appreciate the help. : )

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | May 11, 2007 3:48 AM | Report abuse

From Howard Bryant's article:

"I'll be there," Springs said from Arizona. "All I'm doing is getting myself in the best possible shape for the season. I'm a professional football player and being a professional, I'm doing everything I have to do in order to be ready. That's it. I'll definitely be there."

Springs added that he planned to call Gray and Williams to tell them his planned arrival date.

But Gibbs suggested yesterday that he expected Springs to be with his teammates at Redskins Park . . ."

This situation is a problem because Gibbs makes it a problem. Someone should teach him the meaning of the word, "voluntary". Gibbs' insistence in trying to undermine this aspect of the CBA is ridiculous and he needs to get a clue. It's 2007 now, Joe, and things change - get over it.

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | May 11, 2007 4:24 AM | Report abuse

Here are the over-under win totals from the Las Vegas Hilton for this NFL season:

11 wins -- New England;
10 ½ wins -- Indianapolis and San Diego;
10 wins -- Chicago; 9½ wins -- Denver;
9 wins -- Baltimore, Carolina, Cincinnati, Dallas, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Seattle;
8½ wins -- Jacksonville.
8 wins -- Kansas City, New York Giants and New York Jets;
7 ½ wins -- Atlanta, Green Bay, St. Louis and Washington;
7 wins -- Arizona, Miami, San Francisco, Tampa Bay and Tennessee
6 ½ wins -- Houston and Minnesota;
6 wins -- Buffalo and Detroit;
5½ wins -- Cleveland;
5 wins -- Oakland.

Posted by: The Crickets | May 11, 2007 4:46 AM | Report abuse

Ocho-ocho,

I don't think the problem is with Coach Gibbs not understanding the meaning of "voluntary." He, himself, is able to show up for voluntary activities. I think the problem is with Shawn and Sean who only learned the meaning of "ego" and don't understand the concept of "team." You can't get 11 men playing together when two of them are out sulking.

When all the coaches and players, but two, volunteer for these activities, what does it tell you about the character of the two who think their issues are more important? Are these two the leaders that you want to pay more money? Are they "core Redskins" or spare parts?

Posted by: KK | May 11, 2007 5:22 AM | Report abuse

APPENDIX L
OFF-SEASON WORKOUT RULES
The Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFLPA provides that, except for certain specified minicamps,
any off-season workout programs or classroom instruction shall be strictly voluntary. No Club official
shall indicate to a player that the Club's off-season workout program or classroom instruction is not voluntary
(or that a player's failure to participate in a workout program or classroom instruction will result in the player's
failure to make the Club). Off-season programs may take place for fourteen weeks between the end of the
previous season and ten days prior to the start of veteran training camp. The CBA limits such workouts to four
days per week; such workout programs are not permitted on weekends. Included in the fourteen weeks may be
no more than fourteen days of organized team practice activity. This does not preclude any player from
working out on his own on other days, including weekends. Contact work (e.g., "live" blocking, tackling, pass
rushing, bump-and-run), is expressly prohibited in all off-season workouts.
Voluntary off-season workout programs are intended to provide training, teaching and physical conditioning
for players. The intensity and tempo of drills should be at a level conducive to learning, with player safety as
the highest priority, and not at a level where one player is in a physical contest with another player.
Teams are to provide their players and the Management Council the schedule for the program, including
designation of any days on which organized team practice activity will take place, pursuant to the rules set
forth in Article XXXV of the CBA, and any changes to the schedule for the program.
The following rules shall also apply to the fourteen days of organized team practice activity:
• No pads except protective knee or elbow pads. Helmets are permitted.
• No live contact; no live contact drills between offensive and defensive linemen.
• 7-on-7, 9-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills will be permitted, providing no live contact takes place.
• The NFL will monitor all Clubs during the off-season to ensure player safety and adherence to live contact
guidelines.
• Maximum six hours per day, with a maximum two hours on field, for any player.

Posted by: The Crickets | May 11, 2007 6:45 AM | Report abuse

ARTICLE XXXVI
MINICAMPS
Section 1. Number: Each League Year each Club may hold a maximum of one mandatory minicamp for
veteran players. If a Club hires a new head coach after the end of the regular season, that Club may hold two
additional voluntary minicamps for veteran players. There is no limitation on the number of minicamps a Club
may hold for rookie players.
Section 2. Length: No minicamp may exceed three days in length, plus one day for physical examinations. If
possible, minicamps should be scheduled for weekends and not in conflict with previously scheduled meetings
of the NFLPA Board of Reps or the annual NFLPA convention.
Section 3. Expenses:
(a) Any veteran player who attends a minicamp will receive meal allowances in accordance with
Article XXXIX (Meal Allowance), Section 1 of this Agreement, plus all travel expenses to and from the camp,
plus "per diem" payments at the rate provided in Article XXXVII (Salaries), Section 4 of this Agreement. In
addition, the Club will provide housing at minicamps for players coming from out-of-town.
(b) If a rookie player (defined as in Article XXXVIII, Section 1) signed a Player Contract with any Club
for the prior League Year, he shall receive, for each day that he attends minicamp, the following compensation,
but no other compensation: (i) the prorated portion of the weekly per diem specified for the current League
Year (as set forth in Article XXXVII, Section 3); (ii) the meal allowance specified for the current League Year
(as set forth in Article XXXIX, Section 1); and (iii) all travel expenses to and from the camp, plus housing (for
players coming from out-of-town).
Section 4. Contact: There will be no contact work (e.g., "live" blocking, tackling, pass rushing, bump-and-run)
or use of pads (helmets permitted) at minicamps.
Section 5. Injuries: Any player injured in a Club's minicamp will be protected in the same manner as if injured
during the Club's pre-season training camp.

Posted by: The Crickets | May 11, 2007 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Remember back when Richie and Norv were coaching the Skins and we sucked and everyone was like,"I wonder if Gibbs would succeed in the free-agency era".The argument was always that Gibbs could win in any era because he could get his players to buy in because he was a leader of men.I think we have our answer now.These players that we have now dont see him as the Hall of Fame,3 time Super Bowl winning coach.He is Coach Gibbs.Thats it.That is a direct result of being in an era where you are paid millions before you play a down,NO FEAR OF SECURITY.If you dont have a fear of being fired or have the drive or desire to want to be the best already in you,then nobody can motivate you,not even a Hall of Fame,3-time Super Bowl winning coach.I think when Gibbs returned he felt that if he could get a few Jacoby,Coleman,Butz,Mann like players he could make a go of it,but what he is finding out is that those type of players are far outweighed by Lloyds,Taylors,and Springs type players.Say what you want,but these guys are not true Skins,and THEY WILL BOLT FOR THE DOOR THE FIRST CHANCE THEY GET.They already got the money.Archuletta actually said he had no intention of signing here,but couldnt walk away from the money.Please people,we need to start deTaylorizing ourselves,because the kid is not gonna stay here if its up to him,please beleive me.He plays for our team but he is not our player.

Posted by: dawglbs | May 11, 2007 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Some people's lack understanding of the realities modern NFL astounds me...

Posted by: chris larry | May 11, 2007 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Okay, after yesterdays shabingus, I do have an admission.

I posted the completely wrong email story. I actually dont know what was up with that. I did have a change in meds (stop smoking and others) and my concentration was completely off.

I knew something was wrong with the story, that it did not make the point i remember it making. So it was definately my fault for not reading it through and posting it. I did not take the time until this am to review it and find the right one.

For anyone who really cares, here is a link to the real story I should have sent. Based upon my comments, you know where i stand despite what storys i post. This is not as inflamatory as I admit the last one was, maybe it has more fact. There is one last line that says that liberals do not get it, so if you cant handle that statement, please do not read it and lamblast me.

http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2006/03/historical_revi.html

Either way, to respond to mugamack, I should have said the Ayatollah.

But I wont be posting anymore on this site. So you can keep the status quo and shun any others who have differing opinions.

Go Redskins

Posted by: PDSquared | May 11, 2007 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Awww.....is ums Taylor maaaad?

Give me a break. I am so tired of underachieving first-round picks, who make $1,000 a second, whining about "losing their best friend" or whatever in free agency.

Are you kidding me? Grow up Taylor. Be a man. Get to camp and honor your contract. Be a team player and in '08 you will get a fat new contract to buy your toys.

Posted by: disappointed | May 11, 2007 8:04 AM | Report abuse

PS....Grim Reaper...if you can track down who I am, please don't kill me.

Posted by: disappointed | May 11, 2007 8:08 AM | Report abuse

pd,
Great essay love the info. Do not let the haters discourage you just remember the ol saying "sticks and stones" my brother. HAIL SKINS

Posted by: wvskin | May 11, 2007 8:36 AM | Report abuse

JustMe - Yeah you're right, I knew I read it in a story about the Jags, just had the wrong player!

Posted by: kost52 | May 11, 2007 9:01 AM | Report abuse

kost52,I think the reason that ESPN is only commenting on our no-shows is because WE (not me but a lot of people) have made a big deal of it. Probably got their info from this blog.

Other teams are probably not stressing....

Posted by: Lisa | May 11, 2007 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Uh,CL who lacks understanding of the realities of the modern NFL player,me or the people making decisions over at Ashburn to bring these players in here?

Posted by: dawglbs | May 11, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I believe that we should trade Springs. What he might, and I stress might, play in 4 games this year. We all know he's going to get injured somewhere along the line. I also say we should give Taylor a new contract, but I don't thing a holdout starts until training camp, does it?

Posted by: Disenchanted Fan | May 11, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

PD-

You think?

Posted by: mugamack | May 11, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Pd,
No need to back down from strong opinions. The fact remains that this is still America and you are entitled to voice yours. If that ever changes we'll become no better than the lame, pseudo-socialist, so-called "intellectuals" that rant incessantly about "right wingers", capitalism, the evils of gun ownership, terrorists as "freedom fighters" (now, THAT'S a HUGE stretch!), blah, blah, blah. All the while hiding behind the rights accorded them constitutionally to express themselves. Those are the true idiots. Ludicrous.

Posted by: Petehc | May 11, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

PD,
When are you leaving for your tour in Iraq?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

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