Phillip Daniels, Redskins agree to terms on a new deal

Welcome back Phillip!

Phillip, what color is the wind???

we knew this.

What the hey, let's take care of Albright and Hunter the punter, too.

gotta get hunter the punter back

Let's get punter settled...

I stand by my post.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 11:41 AM

That's what she said.

RedDMV,
I got to believe this parade of left tackles was orchestrated. They apparently didn't like Levi Jones as a left tackle and now are kicking the tires on a few other guys. No one said that Clifton was a lock. I understand the concerns about his age, but he comes from a similar offense. Pashos is only 29, which isn't too old in offensive lineman years and he may be a better option, but heck, take them both and let them compete in the preseason. I would feel much more comfortable going into the draft if the Redskins had someone at every position who could potentially start. Then, the BPA strategy becomes viable. You're not desperate to fill holes and can focus on a player that will make your team better.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 11:47 AM

Agree 100%. Maybe Berry comes into play now if he's there. Still not crazy about another top 5 pick on a safety but he sounds like the real deal.

Posted by: skinswest | March 5, 2010 11:35 AM

Dude, stop it...if the Skins take another safety in the top 10, I'm going to Redskins Park with pitchforks, torches, and machine guns. Worst case scenario, you take one of the DTs or--better yet--trade down. You DO NOT take a damn safety!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey brownwood...

We need EVERYTHING! While I understand the hesitation with picking a QB, we need everything...

1)Suh could sure up our line for years to come

2) Berry would give us an elite starting FS and giev us depth with Horton and Doughty.

The only idiotic pick would be a WR.

Good signing. Daniels will be a good DE in the 3-4.

Championship....BOOK IT!

(All joshing aside, I love Phillip Daniels)

can we stop the stupid posts about ...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 11:18 AM

I agree with McMetal's post about kicking off another blogyear with a kinder, gentler tone, but your particular request is not something that could be accommodated up here. Stupid posting is sort of a liberty interest up here.

RedDMV, and everyone else bashing me at this point...

Do you read my posts? Do you have any idea what I am saying? Clearly not. And again my name proves right... LOOK IM NOT SAYING CLIFTON or PASHOS is an answer long term. I am saying that we CANNOT go into the season with what we have, and that expecting us to find starters, for LT, RG and RT is ridiculous. Bringing in VERTERNS who can do it for NOW... is the only way were going to SURVIVE the year. Clifton is by no means going to save the franchise, or make us a winning team in 2010. But it will enable us to move the ball occasionally and not get embarassed week in and week out. I mean come on be intelligent and read my entire post. I know were going to suck.. I said its going to take 2 years... wow I said that in that post dumda$$ brown... wow you really are a waste of space. I rememeber you from back when i posted before... never an intelligent post.

Look, CLifton is better than any IN HOUSE option we have and while I completely agree we have to DRAFT OLINEMAN like its our Job.... at least 1 a year, preferably 2... but we cannot NOT sign some this year. Come on now please be somewhat intelligent and stop wasting my time Red and Brown...

Let's see, we have Daniels and Haynesworth: that's two of the three pillars needed for the 3-4. As I said earlier, I could visualize Alexander filling this role but they seem to be interested in making him an outside linebacker. I guess the next best option is to pull one of the tackles into an end spot. Golston? Rob Jackson? It sounds like they are looking at free agent DE Babin but I think he would end up being a linebacker, too.

"2) Berry would give us an elite starting FS and giev us depth with Horton and Doughty."

Dude, that's how we got here in the first place.

Again...

You NEVER take a safety with a top 10 pick....EVER!

NEVER, EVER!

Once again...NEVER!

Safeties and fullbacks are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Good Lord.

- Ray

BANISH THAT SORRY Azz PORTIS!! WE WILL NEVER WIN WITH HIM AS STARTER, NEVER!!

REDDMV,
you have to be in the running for dumbest POS in the history of this blog.

good move, gives us depth at the DE spot with Jarmon coming off a knee injury...

some people crack me up, mcmetal is whining in the previous post about how he did the report abuse function, and how we need to be aware of others age, race, etc....seriously, whine much? could you play the role of the victim any better....

People think by signing and drafting these linemen = Championship contenders. They'll be the same ones all crying and hurt come mid-November (or sooner), when it's obvious they're not making the playoffs.

They're supposed to be in re-build mode, which is why signing 30 plus year olds doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm not thinking "championship" mode at all.

I'm thinking "rebuilding mode", but you need some veterans to help through the process.

Last year we saw what an Oline looked like when we were left to rely on alot of young players, and developmental projects. It was a DISASTER.

No rookie is going to be able "develop" on a line or in a situation that is as bad and dysfunctional as what we saw last season. The way you stabilize it is by bringing in some vets - we lost Randy Thomas, we lost Chris Samuels, we've not had a decent vet RT since Jon Jansen 4-5 years ago.

Vets like these are going to help make the difference between an actual rebuilding process with promise, and what we saw last year...

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

McMetal post on a church site if you want politeness and respect. It is the internet, people can do and say pretty much whatever they want, ya dig.

If you dont like, then dont participate or just read and SHUT UP.

Dude, stop it...if the Skins take another safety in the top 10, I'm going to Redskins Park with pitchforks, torches, and machine guns. Worst case scenario, you take one of the DTs or--better yet--trade down. You DO NOT take a damn safety!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 11:42 AM

I couldn't vote on the last thread b/c "D. Whateves." was not a choice, but whether to replace Sean Taylor with the first pick of the draft is something I leave completely in the hands of the Shanahallen. Its their honeymoon and I'm offering up the honeymoon salad (lettuce alone). Whatever they build, how they instill whatever new ethic, with whatever sort of lockerroom leader (disregardless of the W-2s sent to the roster for FY 2010), more power to 'em. I'm going to sit back and get my (T.O. brand) popcorn.

In some ways, the post-cap world really can be bizarro world anyway. The quotes from around the league are that "no one knows what's going to happen." Well, if you don't make something happen, something is going to happen to you. I figure that the Skins are pretty well positioned to make something happen. Just what that is ... well ... that's why I'm grabbing my popcorn (and, while you're up, could you grab me another cold one from the fridge?).

You can rebuild, and have some vet Olinemen on the roster so you can actually like you know....run an offense.

p1funk is preaching truth, the rest b charlatans!

Hunter the Punter was most explosive playmaker the team had last year. Lock him up.

I said its going to take 2 years... wow I said that in that post dumda$$ brown... wow you really are a waste of space. I rememeber you from back when i posted before... never an intelligent post.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 11:51 AM

Never an intelligent post...yet you just agreed with it.

You REALLY wear that handle beautifully...

So far so good!!!! I like what allen and shanny are doing.

People... can we stop this. This is going no where. We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here.

These signings are not meant, in any way, to make us a championship caliber team like in the past. We are accumulating depth on the oline to ensure that what happened to us last year will not happen to us this year (if we sign either, or both Pashos or Clifton). By no means are we trying to win it all this year, like we did last year with Big Fat Al. We, I assume since Shanny and Bruce seem to know what they are doing, will draft a few olineman as well to begin to create our own FUTURE line. But without stop gaps, we will go 0-16 next year. Thats it. Simple... nothing other than finding bodies to come in and play for 2010... just like Campbell. Clearly not the future, but to help us survive 2010 without getting destroyed. And if they play to their potential (big if, but still if), we might finish 7-9 or 8-8...

Shanny and Bruce are making the right decisions... this is smart football. Get help in the trenches, hopefully draft for the future and move on... stop this stupid argument please and realize that this is how a SMART TEAM operates and rebuilds itself... bring in stop gaps to take the lumps so our rookies can learn and progress... SIMPLE FOOTBALL 101.

haha, I love the darts being thrown today, welcome to the weekend folks...

stupid1, I'm with you on the necessity of being acquisitive in the area of the O line. Even though I have no delusions about championships and such as, I really want our offense not to suck this fall, and that's about the O line.

Red, surely you're aware that while there's no rule that says a team has to act right now to solve your problems, this is the moment when the best available veteran players are up for grabs... hence the strident calls to action you're seeing up here today.

They're supposed to be in re-build mode, which is why signing 30 plus year olds doesn't make any sense.

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Agreed they are in re-build mode (whether they admit it or not), but with no cap, and almost certainly no cap coming back, as long as Snyder will spend the money you don't lose anything bringing in stop-gaps at LT and RT.

The only issue is if they treat those stop gaps as it they are answers, and don't draft their replacements.

I'll hold out hope that Allen and Shanahan are much more foreword thinking than their predecessor.

"We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here."

Actually not even registering in top 50....

Did anyone notice the swipe that Chris Sameuls took at the Washington Post and Specfically, JAson Reid during his presser by thanking NBC4 and Comcast for keeping his retirement a secret until he announced it even though they have known for weeks on end he was going to retire.

He spoke of how it isn't always about who breaks a story 1st and he was glad those he choose not to snitch repected him on the way he wanted it to come out. That's what you call a direct shot without being direct......

We need EVERYTHING! While I understand the hesitation with picking a QB, we need everything...

1)Suh could sure up our line for years to come

2) Berry would give us an elite starting FS and giev us depth with Horton and Doughty.

The only idiotic pick would be a WR.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM

O-line, D-line, and QB (in that order).

Those are the only acceptable picks for THIS team, THIS year, in THIS draft.

When you build a team, you build from the line of scrimmage back. Spending a #4 pick and a sh*tload of money on a safety is dumb when you're rebuilding.

You'd be surprised how well our safeties play this year if the front 7 is ballin'...

"We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here."

Actually not even registering in top 50....

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I know. This is like the best most relevant argument on RI in a long time.

Sure beats the heck out of debating the merits of Leigh Torrence AFTER he left or rehashing the reasons why Antonio Pierce left the team 4 years after it happened...

"

Did anyone notice the swipe that Chris Sameuls took at the Washington Post and Specfically, JAson Reid during his presser by thanking NBC4 and Comcast for keeping his retirement a secret until he announced it even though they have known for weeks on end he was going to retire.

He spoke of how it isn't always about who breaks a story 1st and he was glad those he choose not to snitch repected him on the way he wanted it to come out. That's what you call a direct shot without being direct......

Posted by: 4thFloor

Actually its called being delusional about how the world works.

Signing Chad Clifton would be big? Really?
Seriously what is wrong with Jason Reid? Clifton is a 33-year-old OL. That's hardly big. It's just really old. That's a season ending injury waiting to happen. Reid what the heck is goin on with you brother??!!

The only idiotic pick would be a WR.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM

Who's the best tight end in the draft?

REDDMV,
you have to be in the running for dumbest POS in the history of this blog.

Posted by: Stu27

And you have to be int he running for most b*tch made motherfuc_er up here.

Gotta like co-signing punk-ass ma"fuc boys like this bama right here.

Go jerk-off with your brother with belts tied around your neck, you pu**y. Fu_k you!

rmcazz...

Sean Taylor was a #5 pick...

You take the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE. Eric Berry is arguably one of the best players in the whole draft and had a GREAT combine.

Personally, I'd take C.J. Spiller and then go O-line in Round 2

People... can we stop this. This is going no where. We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Have you been up here much? This is nowhere near people in 2008 arguing about whether or not we should have kept Antonio Pierce.

This argument falls somewhere between 'Carolina BBQ vs St Louis BBQ' and 'Would Megan Fox's stumpy freakshow thumb dissuade you from banging her?'

"Phillip Daniels, Redskins agree to terms on a new deal"

So Daniels, Jarmon, Haynesworth, Golston, Montegomery, Jackson, and (?) are our new flexible linemen?

I sense that a nose tackle is going to be drafted in round 2 after Sam Bradford/Jimmy Claussen in round 1.

Sure beats the heck out of debating the merits of Leigh Torrence AFTER he left or rehashing the reasons why Antonio Pierce left the team 4 years after it happened...

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse
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Maybe we could start a discussion about the Carrier/Smith/Sanders/George signings.

I mean, it IS the 10th anniversary.

ou NEVER take a safety with a top 10 pick....EVER!
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Unless his name is Sean Taylor... man that boys death set up back... stupid azz kids!

I'm surprised were not hearing anything yet on the Ryan Clark front... jump in & scoop him up... get LL back to SS.

So far, I like what were doing... We only got 5 picks & you KNOW one of those is gonna be a QB... there is nothing wrong with patching a hole this year, provided you also get some depth in case of injury, that is what has been killing this team the last couple of years. So, ok to sign old Clifton but we also have to find a competent backup LT.

Also Brown... and this is the last time I will resond to a comment from you, because you clearly do not understand football, or have any real intelligence... My POINT was that you said I didn't say something, and that I was arguing something I was not. Calling you retarded was because you clearly cannot read.

You agreed with my point, while not admitting I made it, and call me stupid for agreeing with your point, that I had just made... So let me put it this way... please do us a favor and go follow the cowboys. You insult the fan base and are the reason danny boy spent all that money... to please stupid fans like you who do not understand football.

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

The dumbest argument up here evah was the Disaster Relief Air Craft Carriers....

That SJK was like something from The Onion.

Did anyone notice the swipe that Chris Sameuls took at the Washington Post and Specfically, JAson Reid during his presser by thanking NBC4 and Comcast for keeping his retirement a secret until he announced it even though they have known for weeks on end he was going to retire.

He spoke of how it isn't always about who breaks a story 1st and he was glad those he choose not to snitch repected him on the way he wanted it to come out. That's what you call a direct shot without being direct......

Posted by: 4thFloor

Really? He couldn't have been referring to Reid. I don't think Reid has ever broken a story first.

I did notice that Samuels gave shout-outs to a bunch of players that he worked with, respected and had high praise for. He mentioned Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright...funny b/c there has been another RB on our roster for years that wasn't mentioned...

Actually its called being delusional about how the world works.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:06 PM

Chilvary is indeed, Dead.

The dumbest argument up here evah was the Disaster Relief Air Craft Carriers....

That SJK was like something from The Onion.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

No argument here. That exchange lasted like a day and a half.

never existed 4th....also some "secret" that he was going to retire....

The dumbest argument up here evah was the Disaster Relief Air Craft Carriers....

That SJK was like something from The Onion.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

LMAO. I forgot about that one.

stupid1, didn't you say that "Beggers can't be choosy"? That Clifton is the only option?

You're making it sound like if they didn't sign him this team would be utterly fu_ked.

And they wouldn't.

Agree, p1 this is a relevant and entertaining argument. I know this beucase there are some opinions I usually agree with and respect that in this occasion differ with.

It's all good....

Hell it's nearly 12:30 already on Friday!

With so many scenarios, I figure its time for mine. Based upon recent development, I believe Shanahan is trading down after a nose tackle in lower round 1, first pick in round 2 will be a QB. If trading down gives us an extra pick in round two or three, I will think a RB. The remaining picks will be spent on extra Oline, etc....

Let's see, we have Daniels and Haynesworth: that's two of the three pillars needed for the 3-4. As I said earlier, I could visualize Alexander filling this role but they seem to be interested in making him an outside linebacker. I guess the next best option is to pull one of the tackles into an end spot. Golston? Rob Jackson? It sounds like they are looking at free agent DE Babin but I think he would end up being a linebacker, too.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or am I the only who remembers Lorenzo pulling a hammy while trying to chase down westbrook when the eagles were at Fed Ex. I love the guy. I really do. Quintesential utility guy. However, outside LB? Huh? At one time he was the extra lineman in the jumbo package. I would pass but I'm sure Haslett knows more football then I can forget.

"The only idiotic pick would be a WR."

I'm sorry, but if Jordan Shipley is there at the start of round 4, I'm taking him to replace ARE.

Shipley is going to be a more than solid NFL player.

I bet the team finds another starting o-lineman besides Clifton in FA, and will draft some low round linemen guys.

And if we can find another wr in undrafted types, that's even better.

You see, until M Kelly proves otherwise, he--unlike Thomas or Davis--has bust written all over him.

Marko Mitchell is the independent variable in all our wr thinking.

Honestly RED just the staight suck. You cannot be a skins fan. or you have not seen this team on offense the last couple years. We need oline. any and every way we can get them.

Disaster Relief Aircraft Carriers?

Must've been during my snow/work/olympics/capitals blogsabbatical. Do I want to know?

"NFL Network reporter Jason La Canfora writes the Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles have offers on the table for Peppers."

Good, as long as Mr.Peepers doesn't come here.

- Ray

Dumbest Arguments on RI

1) Aircraft Carrier Disaster Relief
2) Anything related to Cork's political views
3) Megan Fox's thumb
4) Leigh Torrence
5) Antonio Pierce
6) Jason Taylor
7) Trading Portis and or Betts for a 2nd or 3rd round pick

Pashos (or Gandy), Clifton, Jones, and Heyer as tackles.

Any thoughts on this?

'Cuz it looks like what we'll be talking about all weekend and early next week.

Agree 100%. Maybe Berry comes into play now if he's there. Still not crazy about another top 5 pick on a safety but he sounds like the real deal.

Posted by: skinswest | March 5, 2010 11:35 AM

Dude, stop it...if the Skins take another safety in the top 10, I'm going to Redskins Park with pitchforks, torches, and machine guns. Worst case scenario, you take one of the DTs or--better yet--trade down. You DO NOT take a damn safety!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 11:42 AM

Like it or not elite safeties are a necessity in the NFL - Ed Reed, Polamalu, etc.

Either way Clifton would probably just be a 2-3 yr stop gap allowing you to look at other positions with the #4 than just LT. Personnaly I'd like to see them take Okung (if he's there) and put him at RT for a year instead of Berry. But if they went with Berry I wouldn't have a problem with it.

They'll probably go QB anyway and this debate will be moot.

You NEVER take a safety with a top 10 pick....EVER!

NEVER, EVER!

Safeties and fullbacks are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Posted by: rmcazz | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM

Still, seems like Sean Taylor worked out OK(and would have continued to do so). Yes, Landry hasn't be all that. Ed Reed (#16) and Troy Polamulu (#16) also worked out OK, but agreed that neither were top ten.

Dime a dozen is safeties and full backs as special teamers. I don't think we have enough dimes to rely on Reed Doughty or Kareem Moore becoming the ball hawking fix at free safety ... but I could be wrong. Maybe one of those two will be the guy we never had last year. Or maybe LaRon will. Still feels like it would be good to replace Sean Taylor (assuming Shanahallen thinks Eric Berry would be that guy).

Marko Mitchell is the independent variable in all our wr thinking.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell = Brandon Marshall 2.0

Upgraded without all the attitude/immaturity.

"It is the internet, people can say pretty much whatever they want.

If you dont like, then SHUT UP."

Thanks, now I realize what I am up against.

Sorry for trying to raise the bar in here. I'm not sure how advocating respect for other people is playing the victim, but I'll refrain from making attempts to facilitate a more rational exhange of ideas and opinions.

And I don't know who said this... but if we do not sign an olineman, probably 2... we will be screwed. Drafting an Olineman and expecting him to start day 1 and be good day 1 is not a smart football move. We may not NEED clifton, but he is the best option out there, sadly, and so it is intelligent to go after him... IF he comes in at our price (whatever that is). Our otions are extremely limited, with nothing in house, so YES if we do not sign an olineman we will be screwed... completely true.

I'm sorry, but if Jordan Shipley is there at the start of round 4, I'm taking him to replace ARE.

Shipley is going to be a more than solid NFL player.

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I'm sure Cerrato thought the same thing about Kelly, Dev, and Sleep Dav a few years back. We've had that thinking before and it got us zilch. QB or O line at #4. I'm almost scared of the Rams getting Bradford b/c Clausen is just not worth that pick--even Notre Dame fans have admitted that much.

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1

Just because you conjured up this in your head, doesn't mean that teams build that way.

Seriously (excluding Madden), who builds teams that way?

Every time, I see a new GM come in they DRAFT not sign FA linemen (See: Parcells MIA/DAL), and if they do sign linemen they draft young linemen.

There is a bigger payoff at gathering an assembly of young talent. They'll push each other because they'll each think they have a legit chance at starting.

Is it me or am I the only who remembers Lorenzo pulling a hammy while trying to chase down westbrook when the eagles were at Fed Ex. I love the guy. I really do. Quintesential utility guy. However, outside LB? Huh? At one time he was the extra lineman in the jumbo package. I would pass but I'm sure Haslett knows more football then I can forget.
Posted by: overzealous08 | March 5, 2010 12:13 PM

This one has me scratching my head too…..isn’t he up around 280 lbs or more? I have never heard of anyone who has played DT switching to an OLB, or being considered an effective cover guy. Not sure that I like this one. Only guy that size I can think of who was any good was Levon Kirkland, and he was ILB, and not good in coverage (great against the run of course).

Pashos (or Gandy), Clifton, Jones, and Heyer as tackles.

Any thoughts on this?

'Cuz it looks like what we'll be talking about all weekend and early next week.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:17 PM

Not bad. However, do you still draft an OL with your top pick or during the 1st day of the draft?

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:08 PM

Wow, dude...

"30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams"

With award-winning material like that, how can I argue? I mean, it's a stroke of brilliance for someone to pay $7 million per year for a vet LT to "let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it", then pay said rookie about the same exact salary to sit on the bench and learn. No chance that a team should actually--gasp!--put a #4 overall pick on the field Week 1, provided he's proven worthy of the job after a full training camp and preseason of work.

If you're trying to prove that you're a bigger idiot than I thought you were, then mission accomplished. I'm just gonna thank the sweet baby Jesus and an assortment of other gods that you have NO bearing whatsoever on the decisions made at Redskins Park.

RedDMV, I'm out...keep fightin' the good fight, homey.