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Picking Up Two Terps

Ok, this blog has been all web and no log today, so here's a little bit of news that just came over the transom: the Redskins signed two undrafted free agents today, both University of Maryland guys: offensive lineman Andrew Crummey and tight end Jason Goode.

Crummey is 6-foot-5, 301 pounds and was a second-team all-American last fall. Goode is 6-3, 238, and had 36 catches for 401 yards and three TDs in his College Park career. And as a bonus, both players have an extraneous "e" in their last name.

That's it for now ...

By Jon DeNunzio  |  May 8, 2008; 4:53 PM ET
 
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I thought the Chargers signed Crummey ... what happened to him there?

Also, first.

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Jason has e-ness envy...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Reposting from the previous thread

Gentlemen,

I took it upon myself to very quickly photoshop up your proposed burgundy on burgundy uniforms and have uploaded the photo to the wiki (oh, and i joined the wiki in the process. Fun!)

I think burgundy on burgundy could work:
http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/AHKXQqgqQ5UZGIzZq_SrUA65129

What were the other uniform ideas? Black pants? Black jerseys?

Posted by: swb | May 8, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

swb, how about burgundy socks and gold shoes?

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I think that the "e" are superfluous rather than extraneous.

Posted by: rgj21 | May 8, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

swb-

Here was one of the other color combinations. Please colorize the picture of Sean Taylor's uniform in which he is wearing the black socks. Thanks.

"My personal vote for a new home uniform is maroon jerseys and black pants. The helmets will also be maroon. The yellow is used only as an accent color on the jersey, and for things like gloves and shoes.

Road jerseys will probably be yellow or black, with maroon pants. Depends on what the other team is wearing."

Posted by: JZ | May 8, 2008 2:32 PM

Posted by: JZ | May 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

This news is cause for couch-burning in College Park, right?

Okay, just checking before I give the okay to light that thing up.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

where did that chode taster go?

Posted by: cheerio | May 8, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

swb - maybe it's just black tape over the socks. Anyway it is on the Sean Taylor tribute page. Thanks.

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/Sean+Taylor+-+Rest+in+Peace

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Like I said, this was the quick and dirty way to change the uniform colors, but here ya go sween, burgundy socks and gold shoes:
http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/beE9eXpBjAO8G8jzmU2XeQ66535

JZ, I'll photoshop your idea a little later tonight. I'm curious to see what that'll look like, though

Posted by: swb | May 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I think that the "e" are superfluous rather than extraneous.

Posted by: rgj21 | May 8, 2008 5:02 PM

Aren't both words synonyms for irrelevant?

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Man, what's up with the Redskins signing Jason Goode? We don't need another pass-catching TE on the team. And why Goode? Does his family own an alarm clock company or something? This is some jive-ass stuff if you ask me.

Posted by: Fred Davis | May 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

If Jason Goode is any good, then Tyler Ecker and his un-good groin will not say "Oh Goode"

- .250

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

swb, thx.

other synonyms on the "e" ... unnecessary? silent? e-ish?

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Crummey was 2nd team All-American, maybe 2nd team all-acc but definitely not 2nd team all-american.

Posted by: Ted | May 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Jason has e-ness envy...

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 4:56 PM

Looks like you can't read and comprehend. This entry was posted by Jon DeNunzio.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Dec. 12, 2007

COLLEGE PARK, Md. - University of Maryland senior offensive guard Andrew Crummey earned All-America honors from the Associated Press on Tuesday, despite missing more than five games this season with a fractured fibula.

Crummey was a third-team choice after securing second team All-America honors from The Sporting News last week. He was also a second-team All-Atlantic Coast Conference choice this season.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I frown upon anonymous comments, but I appreciate the one directly above. Thanks for clarifying that, whoever you are ...

Jon DeNunzio
Sports editor, washingtonpost.com

Posted by: Jon DeNunzio | May 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

According to the Chargers site, they never signed Crummey.

http://www.chargers.com/team/transactions/

Jon DeN, the bloggers up here not only frown on anonymous posters, we downright GLOWER at them.

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see a white bottom yellow top, similar to the throwback but just switch the color scheme around. The throwback 75th anniversary uniform would make a good 3rd uniform, but at this point, i really like the tradition in how our uniform has stayed constant over the history of the team and do not want the top 2 choices to be changed

Posted by: riggo drill | May 8, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Bring back the alternate helmets with the spear

Posted by: Dude | May 8, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

and I think Tyler Ecker will surprise alot of people this year. Reports out of ashburn are that he completely reshaped his body, got cut and bulked up significantly, so i expect him to make the roster as a third string tight end/ blocking tight end and for him to contribute heavily of special teams

Posted by: riggo drill | May 8, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

" ... and I think Tyler Ecker will surprise alot of people this year. ..."

Posted by: riggo drill | May 8, 2008 5:35 PM

Ecker already has surprised alot of people ... by RE-injuring his groin after spending the entire previous season on the IR for it!

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

riggo drill -

Maybe you didn't hear, but Ecker missed last weekend's mini-camp with a groin muscle pull, which is basically the same thing that got him put on injured reserve last year. Don't look for Ecker to be around for too long. There's a good chance that as soon as he passes a physical, he will be cut.

Posted by: JZ | May 8, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey DeNunzio!

If that was you on the WaPo Draft show with TheCindy:

Nice job!

(And maybe if you do it again next year, you can get lots of former Redskins players as guests/commentators. Or maybe Smoot.)

Posted by: JZ | May 8, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

sween- Jon DeN sorta works. I was also thinking along the lines of JDeN to keep it consistent with JLaC. Or maybe DeNun. What say you, Mr. washingtonpost.com Sports Editor?

And what the heck is a 'transom' anyway? Is that what Ronaldo has to pay to make his, um, situation go away?

- .250

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

And what the heck is a 'transom' anyway?

It's the back end of a boat, in some cases. You can hook an outboard to it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Transom (architectural), the horizontal lintel or beam across a window, dividing it into stages or heights. In the U.S. it also can refer to a fixed window over a door or another window.

Transom (nautical), in naval architecture, is the surface that forms the stern of a vessel.

Posted by: Mr. Wiki Pedia | May 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

So this explains the silence by synder in the post season (predraft). since the draft. dare i say he might have had a game plan all along? no chad johnsons, but with the additions im anxious to see how we walk into the 2008 season. i just want to stack up against the girls. pac man who?

Posted by: Leacher | May 8, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

So now the RI group's lineup will be:

J-La
J-Reid
J-DeN
C-Bor
E-Gar

Posted by: Casey Kasem | May 8, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I really need to start proof reading my comments before i post. when I say he might have had a plan, im reffering to snyder. and i dont know why i have the sentance in there that says since the draft. ugh! sorry

Posted by: Leacher | May 8, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

4-12, looking back in recent weeks (trying to figure out how many TEs are currently on the roster), I get the feeling that the poster known as "JD" may be the Sports Editor above.

I had thought there were more TEs, but its only five: Cooley, Yoder, Fred Davis, Tyler Ecker, and now Jason Goode.

Another fun thing to do is to go the Skins site and click "roster" then "transactions" ... seems like Burl Toler is the big winner for getting signed and released multiple times. Also, is it news to anyone else that Jimmy Farris was on the roster again this past season from Nov. 15th to Dec. 15th?

Finally, thinking about Jesse Lumsden (as if a white guy could play halfback in the NFL!), I researched and learned that the first CFL preseason game is the second week of June and then after two more preseason games, their season starts ... they might be bringing out there talent just in time to get pilfered for NFL training camps!

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I forgot one:

P-Ten

Posted by: Casey Kasem | May 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Casey, don't forget P-Ten!

Posted by: dcsween | May 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Sween - You must have been unconscious last fall. Farris was around long enough to make that Steinberg article on the Smoot nicknames.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

The Skins signed another right guard (Crummey)? He's big (6-5, 311) and fairly fast (5.36-40), but don't they still need to find a backup left guard? The Skins already have Fabini, Wade, Rinehart, Geisinger, and Brown competing for backup RG or RG/RT. But I wonder -- just how easy it is for a guard to transition from the right to left side?

Posted by: Siris | May 8, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I suspect the Skins will keep three TEs this year: Cooley, Davis, and Yoder...

Posted by: Siris | May 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I used to have a big box of "Goode & Crummeys" at the movies when I was a kid. Lasted through an entire double feature.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 8, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

All kidding aside, signing Crummey is a good move, as he is one of those players whose stock fell because he was dinged in his final year. Kind of like Golston and Monty. If he works out, great. if not, nothing ventured.

Posted by: corkczar | May 8, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I play basketball twice a week, and have played for 13 years now, at some stages 4 games a week. I also run, ride and have played Aussie Rules. I have never had a soft tissue injury in my life, not even a strain. I also never stretch. I had heard that there is no proof that stretching actually helps, and found this article.

http://weighttraining.about.com/od/physicaltherapy/a/hamstring.htm

"Now this may seem like heresy to anyone who has been told to stretch their hamstrings to prevent hamstring injury, but there is no consistent evidence that a stretching program prevents hamstring injury or even that 'tight' hamstrings predispose to injury. Stretching may even make things worse in some circumstances"

Posted by: kost52 | May 8, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Nice al burgundy unies. I say they should give it a shot. Still would rather see it with a gold pants thing.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 8, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances of the Skins trading for disgruntled and amazing DT Albert Haynesworth?

If anyone can do it, it's Diamond Dan!

Posted by: BG | May 8, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

O-Line Depth Chart: I'm hoping this is what it looks like come week 1.

LT: Samuals, Heyer, Fabini
LG: Kendall, Rhinehart, Fabini Brown
C: Rabach, Crummey
RG: Thomas, Rhinehart, Fabini, Brown
RT: Jansen Heyer, Fabini

I keep on hearing that Wade will be cut for salary cap/production reasons

Posted by: RIV | May 8, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Andrew is a steal as an undrafted free agent. He was an all-american, and had he not broken his fibula in the east-west shrine game he would be a 3rd or 4th round pick. Oh yeah, it was his second broken fibula in 4 months. He is completely healed and will make the team.

Posted by: Joan Crummey | May 8, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was hard for a guard to go to center.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 8, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

RIV - I reckon you've got 1 player too many, last year we only had 9 O-Lineman on our roster. Don't forget Lorenzo Alexander will spend time on the Off. as well.

Posted by: kost52 | May 8, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Crummey is an unfortunate last name... especially for a player on the fringe. Hope he far surpasses his label!

Posted by: Wellsee | May 8, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

The Skins signed another right guard (Crummey)? He's big (6-5, 311) and fairly fast (5.36-40), but don't they still need to find a backup left guard? The Skins already have Fabini, Wade, Rinehart, Geisinger, and Brown competing for backup RG or RG/RT. But I wonder -- just how easy it is for a guard to transition from the right to left side?

Posted by: Siris | May 8, 2008 6:08 PM

As I stated in my previous post, Crummey has the potential to play Center, which is probably one of their main reasons for signing him, not to mention the success they had last year in developing Heyer.

Per ESPN Insider:
"Crummey also has seen action at center. Crummey has the versatility, athleticism and aggressiveness to develop into a valuable reserve that can provide depth at guard as well as center"

Posted by: RIV | May 8, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm suprised nobody picked up on this. Somebody noted that "Crummey" is an unfortunate last name, but I like the idea that the signed both at the same time. Kind of like a package deal. Sounds like some of these people think signing Crummey was a good idea but signing Goode was a crummy idea.

Posted by: SuperflyTNTdaShizzle | May 8, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

RIV - I reckon you've got 1 player too many, last year we only had 9 O-Lineman on our roster. Don't forget Lorenzo Alexander will spend time on the Off. as well.

Posted by: kost52 | May 8, 2008 6:57 PM

If you're counting Alexander then thats 10, but I listed 9, which is good to know after seeing that thats the same number of OL we had on the roster last year. Besides Alexander is an awesome blocking TE, but I think Brown, Crummey, and Rhinehart have more potential as Offensisve Lineman, in which case we should have Alexander split time between short yardage TE and DT.

On top of that I don't want to put Brown on the practice squad. I think he has a lot of potential working under Joe Bugel and the thought of someone picking him up off waivers scares me. On the other hand we might be able to get away with putting Crummey on the practice squad, but either way I'm glad to see we have a guy that we can possibly back up Rabach as he (Rabach) missed time during the Arizona and Green Bay games last year.

Either way Offensive Line is now a strength, assuming those 3 young guys develop into quality players, especially Rhinehart and Brown.

Posted by: RIV | May 8, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

1-Samuels
2-Kendall
3-Rabach
4-Thomas
5-Jansen
6-Heyer
7-Rinehart
8-Crummey
9-Fabini
10-Brown

Posted by: kost52 | May 8, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

That burgundy/burgundy uni looks like pajamas. I don't want my guys running around in pjs.

Let's home Crummey isn't.

Posted by: EEich | May 8, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

My bad I did have one to many. Oh well when it comes to our O-Line you can never have to many guys.

Posted by: RIV | May 8, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I saved a copy of our opening day roster last season so I can refer back to it and see which battles for roster spots will be tight. So obviously it's only a guide, and won't be exactly the same. I reckon with the shift to a WCO we might take an extra WR.

Posted by: kost52 | May 8, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

you've got to be kidding me. crummie and goode? are there any UFAs named "great"? let's sign that guy.

Posted by: bong | May 8, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: EEich | May 8, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

ESPN has Goode listed as a FB.

Strengths: Has a quick first step, shows adequate footwork and can get into position as a blocker. Keeps head up when combo blocking with tackles and shows adequate lateral mobility when asked to slide off the initial block to pick up a linebacker. Plays with a good motor, has adequate upper body strength and flashes the ability to sustain blocks. As a receiver, has adequate agility and does a good job of avoiding contact when releasing on routes. Changes directions fairly well for size and runs adequate routes. Snatches the ball out of the air and isn't going to drop many passes should catch. Occasionally makes the first defender miss and is a powerful open field runner that can pick up some yards after the catch. Has experience lining flexed out wide, played H-Back at Maryland is versatile. Though an injury hindered him during his true freshman season in 2004, he hasn't missed a game since then appears to be durable.

Weaknesses: Fails to deliver a violent initial punch, hasn't learned to roll hips into blocks and isn't going to jar many defenders at the point of attack. Plays too high, lacks elite bulk and lacks ideal lower body so is liable to get driven back if asked to line up in the traditional tight end slot at the NFL level. Lunges, loses balance a little too much and has problems sustaining blocks consequently. At times takes sound angles to downfield blocks but takes poor angles at other times, struggles to adjust to moving targets in space and has some problems getting into position at the second level as a result. Hasn't carried the ball since high school and is a raw runner. Has adequate-not-great top-end speed and isn't going to be much of a big-play threat at the next level.

Overall: Goode played in just one game as a true freshman in 2004. In his sophomore and junior seasons (2005-'06), he played in all 24 games as a reserve, posting a combined 19 receptions for 188 yards (9.9 average). Serving in a hybrid tight end/H-back role as a senior, Goode played all 13 games (four starts) and turned in 17 receptions for 213 yards (12.5 average) and three touchdowns. Goode possesses the tools to contribute in a system that uses H-Backs and features them in the passing game. However, he is a classic tweener because he isn't big enough to develop into an every-down tight end, he is not a natural fullback and he doesn't have the burst to move to running back. This is why Goode projects as a rookie free agent.

Posted by: kost52 | May 8, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

you've got to be kidding me. crummie and goode? are there any UFAs named "great"? let's sign that guy.
Posted by: bong | May 8, 2008 7:34 PM

----------------------

Too bad Wonderful Terrific Mons doesn't play football...

Posted by: Lekelvis Melvin | May 8, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

take my props for the scoop on the Post staff on that one.

A few quick hitters on Crummey...he was brought into play guard and center. In college, he excelled at pass protection and in the run game his best asset has been his ability to pull and stretch blocking schemes. This had to have been something Bugel was begging for because none of the other reserve guards can do either very well.

Posted by: jperkmd82 | May 8, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah we need new uniforms; anything that incorporates black would be awesome. Burgundy on burgundy or white on white would be much better too.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Yeah we need new uniforms; anything that incorporates black would be awesome. Burgundy on burgundy or white on white would be much better too.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

My only concern... does anyone really trust the Danny to do a good new uniform.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 8, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

You can bet that Snyder changes the uniform to some corporate sponsor colorscheme. What are FedEx's colors again????

Posted by: 7-9 | May 8, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Either way Offensive Line is now a strength, assuming those 3 young guys develop into quality players, especially Rhinehart and Brown.

Posted by: RIV | May 8, 2008 7:09 PM

There is depth for sure, however if Samuels goes down, do we truely have a LT among the other players?

Posted by: MJ | May 8, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the blog slowed down again. And the night shift has not arrived.

I like the gold pants. They could work with any color jersy. And the helmet with the spear.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen my keys?

Posted by: Chelo | May 8, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

If we pick up a back up tackle after June 1 cuts, then Rinehart may be the only rookie that makes the roster. We will have to hope that Brown and Crummey do not get picked up on waivers and make the practice squad.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

The night shift is switching between hockey and soccer.
And have no opinion on our crummey or goode players.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 8, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Curzon, I have to think at least one of the three pass-catching fellows we picked in the second round will make the roster as a rookie. Did you mean Rinehart may be the only O lineman to make the roster as a rookie?

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Nate, what can I say. This darn key board did not enter everything I typed!

Yes, O linemen is what I was talking about.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Stupid keyboards! Yeah, I hate that. I got your drift anyway.

P.S. your tastes seem to run towards the liquor cabinet, but Sierra Nevada has a Summerfest Lager which is mighty tasty, smooth and bright and deeeeeelicious.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Another very, very important aspect of the team's glorious uniform history:

http://redskins.com/cheerleaders/fashion.jsp

My personal favourite is the 1982 uni, at least in part because the ladies in the front row of the picture are doing an awkward half-curtsy which looks really silly and uncomfortable and makes me wonder if any of them strained a hammy during the photo shoot.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

My only concern... does anyone really trust the Danny to do a good new uniform.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 8, 2008 8:39 PM

He'll make the best uniform available

Posted by: RIV | May 8, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Nate, have not had a Sierra Nevada in a couple of years. Tend to lean towards the ales mostly, but outside of american beers there are not many I don't like.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

do we truely have a LT among the other players?

Posted by: MJ | May 8, 2008 9:13 PM

Not really, but we can survive with Heyer or Fabini playing the left side. Rhinehart might also be able to fill in at LT since he played it in college, but then again he's being moved to Guard for a reason and playing LT in the NFL is no picnic.

Posted by: RIV | May 8, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I believe it was riggo drill above who said above that the Skins' unis have been 'constant throughout the team's history'... doesn't seem like that's really the case. They've worn the same unis for most of the past 30 years, but that doesn't constitute a majority of their 75-year history.

Until the 70s it seems like we wore burgundy shirts and gold britches quite a lot.

I couldn't find much of this except for single photos of dudes in uniform. But here's a tiny little image which displays some of the uni combos over the years:

http://www.distantreplays.com/distant/assets/product_images/PAAAIAMNIJIOLBDF.jpg

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

RIV, plus I refuse to plan on injuries. If Samuels does get hurt, Heyer should be albe to fill in. But I am going to believe that we are due a healthy season after our last two years.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Like the gold pants in those pictures Nate. Like to see something different done with the jersey.

However, speaking of taste, the first link you posted had the more attractive unis.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

The Skins signed another right guard (Crummey)? He's big (6-5, 311) and fairly fast (5.36-40), but don't they still need to find a backup left guard? The Skins already have Fabini, Wade, Rinehart, Geisinger, and Brown competing for backup RG or RG/RT. But I wonder -- just how easy it is for a guard to transition from the right to left side?

Posted by: Siris | May 8, 2008 6:08 PM

The left guard position is the easiest position after center to play on the offensive line. There was an exellent article by Russ Tucker, a former Redskin, on the difficulty of each OL positions. He listed positions in a descending order of difficulty and provided indepth analysis: LT, RT, RG, LG and C.

Posted by: M | May 8, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm coming around on pairing our current burgundy jersey (not the darker one we wore for the 70th anniversary throwbacks, which I did not like) with golden britches based on the current burgundy britches, just switching burgundy for gold wherever they occur. I think that would look pretty darn good. One fan's opinion...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I pitty the fool who took my keys.

Posted by: Chelo | May 8, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Curzon, you last post reminded me of that that famously palindromic quote attributed to Stephon Heyer, "Albe was I ere I saw Ebla."


"Ebla" of course is the nickname a lot of us use for Ashburn.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

To me they seem more old school and less dainty than the white. But I would really like to see the helmet with the spear used more often.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Nate, here I go again, showing off my ignorance.

Not familiar with the quote.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 8, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Glad a couple of people picked up "P-Ten" up above.

I've always thought of this nice editor fellow's nickname as "Nunz." I don't know why. They shouldn't ALL follow the initial-hyphen-syllable nickname syntax, should they?

Just like it would be weird if we all had numbers in our handles.

Or airport codes. Now THAT would be weird.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Just changed my handle. And it's easier to type.

Posted by: Curz | May 8, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Curz, I saw an opportunity to pounce on your keyboard's spelling error ("albe to fill in") and I didn't have sufficient character to resist.


'Napoleon's [time in exile] on Elba is the basis for the famous English language palindrome: "Able was I ere I saw Elba."'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elba#History

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Or you could borrow an 'e' from one of these Terps and graduate to Albee

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Albee

But that would just be silly...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 8, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

M, I'm with you, I'm not worried about the left guard spot per se. Any of these backups, aided by a steady diet of profanity-laden old-school coaching/hectoring from Buges, would probably be fine over there.

It's the health of the line as a whole that I think is the primary concern. Getting the top five guys to play close to 100% of our snaps together this season. Man, would that be nice.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Haha,

Well, if nothing else, I am sometimes good to laugh at. or a laugh!

Posted by: Curz | May 9, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Rinehart may be able to displace Fabini which would allow Brown or maybe Crummey to make the roster. Depending on how many OL the team keeps.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

We get to have a couple of extra roster spots and 12 men on the field on offensive downs, since we have a rookie head coach who's never been even a coordinator, in the interest of parity, right? Or did I dream that?

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Dreaming? I want some of that stuff your drinking tonight!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

at eastern motors, your job's your credit

Posted by: david | May 9, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

I know, I know, only kidding.

Good golly, we have to wait, like, four more months before there's real football. Four months from tonight is opening Thursday, right? Holy smokes... it's a long time to wait, but that's gonna be a fun night.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

I just hope I can survive until preseason. For me, it's small steps.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Well, yeah, when you put it that way... August 3 is only three months away! And training camp will start, what, three or so weeks before that... so we're down to about two months away! Yippee!

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

The only good thing of that early preseason game is that camp starts early.

Wish I could make that trip to Canton!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm not expecting this guy to be any good. He'll probably be pretty Crummey.

Posted by: 3rd Grade Humorist | May 9, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Interesting article on Herschel Walker on the WaPo front page:

"Walker is out to dispel the myths about multiple personality disorder, or, as he prefers to call it, DID -- dissociative identity disorder."

-------------------

I know there is a good joke waiting to be hatched here, but I got nothing...

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

I thought it was hard for a guard to go to center.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 8, 2008 6:56 PM


That's hoop. I did it in the NBA finals. Going from Guard to Talk Show Host. Now THAT's hard.

Posted by: Magic Johnson | May 9, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Or from running back to espn commentator.

Posted by: Emmet Smith | May 9, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

NO to changing colors. I've hated the fact that we lost the gold pants back in '81 or whenever it was. Because, if the colors are burgandy and gold the damn unis should be burgandy and gold. Change the helmet, change the mascot, change the name, change the owner; but not the colors! More bling! More gold; less white. It ain't high school the b-on-b and white on white is soooo "Friday night lights." It should be burgandy and gold and new unis. Now it won't happen until the name changes unless another reason to take the team to court.

Posted by: bangkokben | May 9, 2008 5:25 AM | Report abuse

When Two Terps go to war, one is all you can score

Posted by: Redcoat | May 9, 2008 5:38 AM | Report abuse

I see the conversation has finally turned to the Redskins...

If I had my way, the Skins would wear the throwbacks from the '02 season (with the spear helmets and gold pants). Better shade of burgundy and it looks better with black shoes.

That said, I think the current unis are fine. My only issue is that they've been wearing black shoes for the last two years, which in my opinion looks hideous when you wear a predominantly white uniform. It just looks dumb to have black shoes when you don't have black in your colors. Zorn will win my affection if he gets the team to wear white shoes again.

Wow, I just went Uni-Watch on Page 2 of ESPN.com right there...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 9, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

i think the uniform is ugly...for a second i tthought i'm looking at cardinals ....burgandy on white or blakc is good though

Posted by: Krazi Jess | May 9, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

TE - So you didn't like the principle either? Did you get a chance to meet Rhee? (saw your comments on the firing of your kids principle)...

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Where is everyone?

Posted by: jm220 | May 9, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Since when is bright yellow the same as gold? I'd like to switch the white pants to -- well, I like the yellow (maize) of the Michigan pants a lot more than the gold of a UCLA or Notre Dame -- I guess yellow?

And for the record, I liked the white-on-white look.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Where is everyone?

we're all trying to declare the Democrat nomination over... there are a lot of places on the internet that need to be told...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

jm220, happy Friday to you.

We could use some TCCLs* up here.

-Nate in the PDX


* TCCL = Tom Cruise Couch Leap, a unit of measurement for praise or excitement that used to be doled out by La Canfora in weekly awards on this here blog.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

My favorite unis are the white on white...but they could be spruced up a bit with maybe burgundy/black belt and black cleats. Any thoughts on gold on gold?

Posted by: cosmofla | May 9, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

0 TCCL's for white on white.

Posted by: etrod | May 9, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Like the Crummey pick up. Stephon Heyer was an undrafted FA outta UMD last year, so who knows? As brittle as Jansen and Thomas are, I'm sure he'll be needed.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | May 9, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Happy Friday hammies.

Good news about Crummey. I like it, as has been stated previously, low risk, but big reward factor. I've gotta think that between Crummey, Brown, Reinhart, the Redskins have gotten a possible core of players that could make the team, and push some of the older cats out.

On an NBA note, I think Lebron just missed another shot....

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

0 TCCL's for white on white.

Posted by: etrod | May 9, 2008 8:24 AM

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etrod, what do you like

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Don't doubt Lebron...he'll be back, hopefully with a better supporting cast.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Happy Friday Nate.

Posted by: jm220 | May 9, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Anon, oh, I don't doubt Lebron, not in the least. Its his supporting cast where all the doubt comes from. Other than Illgauskas, someone on that team needs to step up, and knock down a jumper.

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

TE - So you didn't like the principle either? Did you get a chance to meet Rhee? (saw your comments on the firing of your kids principle)...

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 7:26 AM

No, I have never met Rhee, but I admire the vigor, energy, and new ideas that she has brought to her job -- and Mayor Fenty for picking and supporting her.

Both of my kids are out of the Oyster School now, but the parents who are still associated with Oyster have been very frustrated, and their chief frustration has been the principal. She has done a particularly bad job in the last year of expanding the bi-lingual program through the middle school grades.

The Oyster School is a wonderful asset and both my kids are bilingual. The teachers have been incredibly good and they deserve better leadership than they've gotten since Sra. Guzman arrived.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 9, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

On the uniform front, white on white is terrible. I would go Burgandy on Gold with black cleates. Or B on B with Black cleates. I also think a new design would be good, spice it up a little. They could also add some Black to the uniform. I love the spear helmet.

Posted by: kmdp4 | May 9, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I think I'm coming around on pairing our current burgundy jersey (not the darker one we wore for the 70th anniversary throwbacks, which I did not like) with golden britches based on the current burgundy britches, just switching burgundy for gold wherever they occur. I think that would look pretty darn good. One fan's opinion...
-Nate in the PDX
Posted by: | May 8, 2008 11:39 PM

Nate, I'm totally with you. Basically it's the 72-78 home unis......jersery is very slightly different (solid whitwe numbers, no outline) and the burgundy is a bit darker. Refer to this Billy Kilmer pic on ebay......

http://cgi.ebay.com/WASHINGTON-REDSKINS-BILLY-KILMER-SIGNED-8X10-PHOTO_W0QQitemZ110249928021QQihZ001QQcategoryZ27278QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

F Lebron. I hope the Wiz get him in the playoffs next year so he can get his taint handed to him.

I think the white on white is OK. If for no other reason than the fact that they don't wear those retro-80s burgundy and gold striped socks with them. But I would be interested in seeing the burgundy on burgundy IF and only if they can make the burgundy match. I can't tell you how crappy it looks to have the burgundy jersey not match the burgundy helmet (the burgundy jerseys looked more red in the 80s).

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 9, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Greg, forgot to sign my name. Yeah, Lebron has minimal help. Jordan would have 0 championships without Pippen...

Posted by: cosmofla | May 9, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

dlhaze, that's the spirit, man! I should have thought to find a pic.

Some solid gold trousers -- not bright yellow, a color that should be avoided, as somebody noted above -- matched with our current burgundy shirts. Hell yes.

Seems like that color combo would be awesome in and of itself, would make our two primary colors its two primary colors, would not have the monochrome effect (same color pants and shirt) which I don't favor, would not include white pants (do I need to mention Visible Jockstrap Lines again? I think not), AND would be evocative of the team's history, since that combo may have been worn more than any other in the team's 75 seasons.

But, the million dollar question, would it sell? Seems like uni decisions hinge on selling jerseys, and changing just the pants color by definition wouldn't sell any more jerseys.

Eureka! It's time for the NFL to start selling replica and authentic uniform pants!

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

The jersey Kilmer was wearing is a lot closer to a true burgundy than what the Skins wear now. Unfortunately, anything Kilmer wears is not going to look good. Better they show a picture of Charley Taylor or Larry Brown. I'm for the team wearing a true burgundy and gold rather than yellow. Dan can afford it.

The last throw-backs the Skins wore, based on the 70s, were horrible. They made the players look like Ronald McDonald.

Posted by: skinfanman | May 9, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

to uni talk i say, whateves!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I think the Jerseys should orange. Bright neon orange with numbers on the chest.

That'd be sweet, cus then I wouldn't have to go buy a jersey, I'd already be wearing one.

Then they could blood stains here and there for when people get cut by that colon shank.

Posted by: Prison Balls | May 9, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

etrod, what do you like

Posted by: | May 9, 2008 8:29 AM

Poetry, Scotch and, of course, Baxter.

Posted by: etrod | May 9, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I love the Throwbacks they wore last year but they were tainted by the egg we laid whilst wearing them vs. the Giants.

I personally would love to see the dark burgundy Jersey's, similar to the ones from the 75th but without the bamma yellow stripes on the sleeves. If we paired them with pants of the same color and helmets with the spear logo, I'd be a happy camper. Very simplistic and intimidating. Away would keep the same pants, white jersey's with burgundy numbers. Keep the gold to a minimum. I'm not down with the bling.

Posted by: etrod | May 9, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I got nothing. Sorry.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 9, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Nate, having the top 5 OL play close to 100% of snaps over the course of the season would be great. I think that people forget that prior to last season Redskin's OL was one of the top lines in the league. They lost Dockery, but he was the weakest link at the time and Kendall is a capable (and much cheaper) replacement. What people forget is that last season's injuries on the offensive line were well above the norm. They lost both starters on the right side of offensive line for the season. In one game (it may have been the game against Buffalo), they lost to injuries all offensive tackles but Samuels and I even recall "do-it-all" defensive tackle Lorenzo Alexander finishing the game on OL. The OL should improve this season, because they are returing two starters that they lost last season due to injuries. I do think, however, that by next season someone would have to take Kendall's place as the starter and hopefully it will be one of young offensive linemen they are grooming now.

Posted by: M | May 9, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I think you underestimate Dock...he was a road grader..he could open up some holes...tats what we needed w/ cp's ypc dropping to 3.8...kendall is nice but he is a stop gap...i think we need a dominant run blocker

Posted by: Sweet Feet | May 9, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Since when is bright yellow the same as gold? I'd like to switch the white pants to -- well, I like the yellow (maize) of the Michigan pants a lot more than the gold of a UCLA or Notre Dame -- I guess yellow?

And for the record, I liked the white-on-white look.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 8:18 AM

White-on-white ... the symbol of purity ... and weakness. Michigan, UCLA, Notre Dame. Need this be elaborated? Go Michigan State!

Tops entry was by dlhaze ... not only a return to throwback helmets, but also throwback Kilmer facemasks! To the age when a single bar was considered a "mask". Full field view. I say back to leather helmets too.

My latest thought ... gold laces. Also, brass knuckles ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Jasno's been back for three days now. In that time there have been three posts: one by him, one by Cindy and one by Jon DeNunzio.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 9, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Dockery-to-Kendall was an upgrade in performance at that position.

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I say we go with a maroon top-yellow pants-black shoes combo.

Posted by: Jim Zorn | May 9, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Please no black jerseys/pants. I have a hard enough time watching the Skins play many Sundays, the last thing I want is to feel like I'm rooting for the Raiders of the East...

Burgundy tops-burgundy pants-burgundy socks and shoes!

Posted by: p1funk | May 9, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

They could wear periwinkle and burnt sienna for all I care, lets just go 11-5, average 24 points on O, and 26 opposition busted lips a game on D!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

How about Burnt Umber and Yellow Oker?

Posted by: Bob Ross | May 9, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

One other thing I like is the gray facemasks....the gold facemasks are a little too pretty. Current helmet with gray mask (just like my old "helmet -lamp"), dark burgundy jersey and gold 70's pants. Beautiful!

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I have to confess that I didn't realize that people got so excited about uniforms.

Is it because specific variations remind you of particular periods of glory or certain players? I don't think there's an equivalent in any sports I followed back in the UK, so I'm intrigued by this.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 9, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

RIP Bob Ross... one of the greatest bubble perms in recorded history...

http://popculturewilleatitself.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bob-ross.jpg

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I think the UK equivalent might have been the unis back when the sun never set on the British Empire ... the stuff the brigadier battalions wore in Ceylon, or maps, such as

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Sween, although they barely changed from century to century!

I suppose there may have been an equivalent in soccer at one time - when they didn't change the kits every year - but I don't recall it being a part of fan-dom either in my youth or adulthood.

Ceylon, now there's a great name. Why is everywhere called something else these days!!! :)

Posted by: Redcoat | May 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Ah Bob Ross......"now that's a HAPPY tree"

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Really Coat? I often harken back to the JVC years.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I reckon the disconnect is because your football sides have a tendency to change their kits every few seasons, so you're inured to this sort of debate...

I realise it's not a perfect parallel because the third/alternate kit has been prevalent much longer over there, and sponsor logos have been a design factor for a long time, but to cite one example, see how Man Utd have changed the fundamental appearance of their kits over and over and over through the years.

http://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/mufc-kits.htm

Seems like over there it's about frequently introducing 'variations on a theme' which can vary wildly, where over here it's a much bigger deal to make such dramatic changes. I dunno...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

My $.02. I like the burgundy and white unis (road and away) or the all white unis. All burgundy or black and burgundy not so much. Always thought the gold pants were kind of fugly. Also definitely like the spear on the helmet.

Posted by: skinswest | May 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Very true Nate. Main reasons:

1. Corporate sponsors come and go.
2. Players names are now on the back so you can't just 'wear a number' any more.
3. Clubs keep ALL revenue from kit sales!

So the constant rotation of kits - with some of the most egregious like my own Red Devils having anywhere up to 4 new per season - is actually a huge source of revenue for the teams.

When you combine that with United's global fan base you understand why they are the most valuable sports team on the planet, Skins/Grrls included.

Maybe that's why I didn't get into that. By the time I could afford to buy replica shirts, etc. I didn't want to because I begrudged getting fleeced that way.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Hold up, the guy who picked the name "Redcoat" doesn't have an opinion on uniforms? C'mon!

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nspictou/images/redcoat.jpg

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Makes you wonder whether this supposed red coated fellow even knows how to play Stratego.

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Actually Nate, how do you know I didn't take my name from this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38167000/jpg/_38167802_matt.jpg

The 50s and 60s were the heyday of 'holiday camps' in the UK, and Butlin's (also known at Butlitz - to sound like Colditz) were the market leaders. The camp assistants/entertainers were called Redcoats.

But I have to admit Nate, you got me on that. As I've said before, my ambition is to one day march in the Leesburg 4th July parade in full Redcoat attire.

But I need to get my affairs in order before I do that as Mrs Redcoat will kill me even if the crowd doesn't!

Posted by: Redcoat | May 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Ok JZ (we have a JZ and a P Diddy up here? Party time)

Here's the great Sean Taylor with black pants and burgundy jersey. Not too bad I don't think.
http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/0eHPnPyBEa2cb8Wz3xChtA145208

Any other requests? I liked the dlhaze suggestion, but since there are already plenty of photos out there of that color combo, I don't know if I really need to do any modifications.

Posted by: swb | May 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, this guy called to throw down a gauntlet.

http://www.greenesofmoravia.com/Dad%20at%20Desk%20green%20coat.jpg

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

How about Burnt Umber and Yellow Oker?

Posted by: Bob Ross | May 9, 2008 10:58 AM

Post of the Day!

Posted by: Zebra | May 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Bob Ross is Chia Pet!

- .250

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

think you underestimate Dock...he was a road grader..he could open up some holes...tats what we needed w/ cp's ypc dropping to 3.8...kendall is nice but he is a stop gap...i think we need a dominant run blocker

Posted by: Sweet Feet | May 9, 2008 10:09 AM

Sweet Feet, most teams primarily run behind the right side of their offensive line behind their grinders with occasional runs to the left side where they have their best pass protectors at QB's blind side. Redskin's drop in running ypc average last season has something to do with the loss of the right side of the OL to season ending injuries (Randy Thomas and Jensen). Redskins had to run behind the left side of their OL last season because they could not run effectively behind Fabini at the right side. This made their running game very predictable, just recall the Giant's goal line stand when all Giant's players knew that Redskins will be running to the left. Dock is a nice player and I wish him well at Buffalo (it was a no brainer for him to take their offer considering how much they were willing to overpay him), but I won't miss his false start penalties. Plus Redskins got a compensatory third round pick due to his departure.

Posted by: M | May 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

good stuff swb.

Try storm gray jersey with burgundy or gold pants.

Posted by: Zebra | May 9, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

F P Diddy and especially F JZ. Go home to Beouncy

Posted by: Soulja Boy | May 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Haha,

Well, if nothing else, I am sometimes good to laugh at. or a laugh!

Posted by: Curz | May 9, 2008 12:01 AM

Are we 'avin' a laugh?

Posted by: Corkczar & Crumpets | May 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Major Announcement coming soon

Posted by: Great One | May 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Here it is


" Major Announcement"

Thats it I just wanted to say Major Announcement

Posted by: Great one | May 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

When did this board go Completely Gay?--not that there's anything wrong with that. Anyone who wandered over here would think they've reached the NFL's Costume Design Review Blog Board.

So please! Either move on to actual football, or at least get into the critical issue of fabrics.

I mean come on, Ripstop Nylon vs. A poly blend. Now THAT's football.

Posted by: Richard Simmons | May 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

+++Major Announcement coming soon

Posted by: Great One | May 9, 2008 11:45 AM+++

Here tis: "Major Announcement has just been promoted to Lieutenant Colonel Announcement."

Posted by: Major Major Major | May 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The burgundy and black actually looked pretty good. I tried it on Madden one time and it looks great. However, it's harder to work the gold in there without making it look weird.

And "Richard Simmons", I'll take today's conversation over yesterday's mess every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Even if it does sound like an episode of Queer Eye...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 9, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Seems as if there is some heartburn over signing Goode...don't sleep on him. If no one thought he was GOOD, they wouldn't have signed him. Don't think he will have a problem making practice or better yet making the team!

Posted by: Goode fan... | May 9, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I got a major announcement. Anyone that comes near me today in the yard is gettin cut. Cut deep.

My colon shank's got that blood lust, and I got no sympathy for people who run their mouth off. Watch it.

Posted by: Prison Balls | May 9, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Ceylon, now there's a great name. Why is everywhere called something else these days!!! :)

Posted by: Redcoat | May 9, 2008 11:15 AM

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
--They Might Be Giants

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Come get some, Prison Balls. Wait I believe you already say that every night at lockdown. Life on the other side of the wall is so sweeeet.

Posted by: Sweet Freedom | May 9, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Laurenco Marques rulz
Maputo drulz

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

++++And "Richard Simmons", I'll take today's conversation over yesterday's mess every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Even if it does sound like an episode of Queer Eye...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 9, 2008 11:57 AM+++

NEW TOPICS:


Bustier Comeback? Madonna thinks not.

Chintz vs. Organdy: Horns of a Dilemma

Is Sniffing Mommy's unmentionables Really All That Wrong?


Discuss Among Yourselves, men.

Posted by: R. Simmons | May 9, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

lets talk football

I predict that clinton portis will win the rushing title this year and we will have a top 5 offense.

Anybody care to argue against or for that opionion?

Posted by: Great One | May 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

is Sniffing Mommy's unmentionables Really All That Wrong?

If they're still on her, YES!

Posted by: not Oedipus | May 9, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

kind of dead in here.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

So I'm confused. Are these signings crummy or good. Make up your mind srsly.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | May 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Just read that Roy Williams may be available soon.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of changes, and Roy Williamses, the other Roy Williams will be switching from #31 to the #38 he wore at Texas. But you'll still recognize him as the fat azz 5 yards behind every play.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Or Oklahoma.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, same Roy Williams. Doesn't fit in with the girls defense.

Just trying to stir up RI.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

He doesn't really fit in with defense in general.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Great One, for reference, Clinton's yardage each season, plus the top AFC and NFC rushers by yardage, plus the top Skin for each season (if not Clinton), with overall league ranking and total yards:


2007
1. Tomlinson SD 1,474
2. Peterson MIN 1,341
6. Portis WAS 1,262

2006
1. Tomlinson SD 1,815
3. Gore SF 1,695
13. Betts WAS 1,154

2005
1. Alexander SEA 1,880
3. Johnson KC 1,750
4. Portis WAS 1,516

2004
1. Martin NYJ 1,697
2. Alexander SEA 1,696
8. Portis WAS 1,315

2003
1. Lewis BAL 2,066
2. Green GB 1,883
5. Portis DEN 1,591
35. Trung freakin' Canidate WAS 600

2002
1. Williams MIA 1,853
4. Portis DEN 1,508
6. McAllister NO 1,388
27. Stephen Davis WAS 820


-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Trung freakin' Canidate

I was ignorant that his middle name, was "freakin"......

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, aren't you a Dallas fan?

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow, it takes Portis all year to do what Betts can do in seven games.

Just trying to stir up RI.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

So Great One, I will join you in the hope that Clinton will have a great season statistically. Not a career high for him, but top 5 in the league sounds good to me. This hinges on the corresponding hope that the new passing game clicks and keeps opposing Ds honest.

Also, I threw up in my mouth a little bit when I saw our leading rusher for 2003, and saw his total yards. Ugh.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Um, aren't we ALL trying to "stir up RI," on some level?

SMACK is a force for good up here, not a force for evil.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Nate, that created a nauseating affect for many of us!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Chiefs could turn to Vanderjagt or Carney?

The Chiefs' strategy for solving their kicking troubles was a simple one. Too simple, as it turned out. Their solution was to sign the best available free-agent kicker, Seattle's Josh Brown. They had no backup plan. So when Brown instead signed with the Rams in the opening days of free agency, the Chiefs were left at kicker with journeymen Nick Novak and Billy Cundiff, an undrafted rookie in North Carolina's Connor Barth and plenty of continuing unease over the situation. "We'll have to decide at the end of the day if one of these three guys is the guy or do we have to go out and get one of those old guys who doesn't want to come to training camp?" coach Herm Edwards said. "Hopefully we don't have to do that, but if we have to, we'll do it." The "old guys" Edwards referred to include John Carney, who kicked for the Chiefs toward the end of last season, and former Colts kicker Mike Vanderjagt, who worked out for them early in the spring. Both are free agents.

-- KC Star

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Bob Ross passed away?

-RIP-

Clinton Portis rushing title? I dunno...

Top 5 Offense; Not likely...

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow, it takes Portis all year to do what Betts can do in seven games.

Just trying to stir up RI.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 1:13 PM

Oh you know what you get for that one.

Posted by: jm220 | May 9, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Bob Ross: Any relation to Bobby Ross?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Nate. Yeah, Red, I'm a "Girls" fan. But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to take Roy Williams and beat Tony Romo to death with him.

As is frequently pointed out up here, we haven't won a playoff game since Madonna was really, like, a virgin. So there are no "Sacred Cows".

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I see. You're just trying to draw the ire of RI, cool. I'll take my last question as a yes then, right?

Whats the name of the blogger who posts negative stuff about players NOT wearing burgundy & gold?

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone interested in Roy Williams are looking to trade him, maybe we can give up S. Moss for him??

Posted by: mhartz1 | May 9, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I hope you guys are done debating uniform color schemes?

All I know is I'm feeling a little blue today.

:-(

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I usually don't have any love for kickers, but I feel kind of bad for Nick Novak.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, jm. I didn't want that hammer getting rusty in the offseason.

4th, I think we would all welcome the idiot drunken kicker back into the NFL, at a comfortable distance of course. Which for Mike has to be about 25 yards.

The careers of psychotherapists everywhere will hinge on his success or failure.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"Hopefully we don't have to do that, but if we have to, we'll do it."

Hrrrrrrm Edwards

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There's a joke there, but I'm too depressed to think of it.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chia, if you're in the DC metro area, then its understood why you'll feel that way.

I just hope my basement isn't flooded due to all the rain we've been getting.

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I am just saying if we run more two tight ends and 4 wide reciever sets, that has to create more running lanes. I think he could easily have 1600 yards.

Posted by: Great One | May 9, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I like Roy Williams (WR), but with Kelly and Thomas, they to me anyway seem to be the same type of WR.

Tall, possession type dudes.

I don't think we need three. But I understand after watching WR's who couldn't get on rides at Six-Flags. We have a want for the guys 6-2 and taller. But you'll still need a couple of smurfs, those are usually your burners.

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Red,

DC is a swirling vortex of funky juju. I dragged myself out a long time ago.

I love the Washington Redskins and I miss Doreen Gentzler, but that's about it. I don't know how you all do it.

What about Bob Ryan, is he still around? That guy has good energy too.

What about beer? Last time I visited, the bars still seem to think that Sam Adams is a micro brew.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I agree about the false starts...i still want a dominant run blocker...i wanna see clinton get up to a 4.5 ypc average

Posted by: Sweet Feet | May 9, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Ellis: Cowboys could trade Roy Williams

Dallas Cowboys safety Roy Williams has doubts about whether he fits into Coach Wade Phillips' scheme and has been isolating himself from his teammates, defensive end Greg Ellis said Thursday. Ellis told Sirius NFL Radio that Williams' concerns about his place in Phillips' version of the 3-4 defense surfaced last summer at training camp in San Antonio. "He said, �Greg, this defense does not fit me. I don't fit in well with this defense at all,' " the Dallas Morning News' Web site quoted Ellis as saying. "So when he told me that, I was like, �Well, man, it's still new. Get used to it, and it'll probably be fine for you.' And, obviously, I think it came to be true. Just like he said, he doesn't fit what's going on here in Dallas right now.' " Ellis expressed optimism that Williams will feel more comfortable this season, while also suggesting the Cowboys could trade the former Oklahoma star.

-- San Antonio Express-News

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

A refreshing change from him isolating himself from the other team.

Posted by: SMACK | May 9, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

As much as I hate the cowboys, Roy Williams and LaRon would quite a combo.

Posted by: ce1782 | May 9, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

No. They wouldn't really.

Roy Williams = Archibingus

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

NFL legend Joe Montana suing his first wife

Former 49ers quarterback Joe Montana is suing his first wife, Kim Moses, and a Texas auction house for selling love letters and memorabilia from his time at the University of Notre Dame. The other items include Joe's freshman I.D. card, a University of Notre Dame letter of intent and Joe and Kim's 1979 marriage certificate. Joe is suing in excess of $75,000 -- claiming the items were obtained and sold by Moses without his consent.

-- TMZ

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

No trading with the Cowboys.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys tried to move Williams closer to the line of scrimmage last season to take advantage of his hitting ability, but that plan hit a snag when cornerbacks Terence Newman and Anthony Henry suffered injuries.

Later in the season, Phillips kept Williams on the sidelines as much as possible in obvious passing situations. Williams has struggled throughout his career in pass coverage.

Despite recording just two interceptions and failing to notch either a sack or a forced fumble, Williams was named to the NFC Pro Bowl roster a fifth-straight time last season.

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Just shows what the pro bowl is all about.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

While he has some struggles in pass coverage obviously, that cat can bring the wood. I'd ask him to get down to about 220 pounds, then pair him with a good coverage safety, and blitz the heck out of him.

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Joe Montana's wife is selling his love letters.

Great!

This is why you should never write love letters.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Every time I see John Carney bouncing around from team to team I wonder why the Skins never brought him in for a tryout even once. I am still not quite sold on Suishy....forget about Vanderchoke, but what would it hurt to sign Carney for the vet min and see what he could do? He's one of the most accurate of all time isn't he?

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Former 49ers quarterback Joe Montana is suing his first wife, Kim Moses, and a Texas auction house for selling love letters and memorabilia from his time at the University of Notre Dame.
You know, if he would just call O.J. and his buddies, he wouldn't have to bother suing his ex....they could just go in guns blazing and take it all back.

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

That story about Joe Montana's wife is really bumming me out.

I'm done here for today.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Wasted 2nd Rounder Symbolizes Skins' Failures
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David Elfin
WarpathInsiders.com May 9, 2008

Fred Davis was the nation's top tight end as a USC senior in 2007. Despite his preference for his pillow over practice on the final day of minicamp, the 22-year-old from Toledo seems like a good guy.

However, that doesn't mean that it was smart for the Redskins to use their second choice, 47th overall, on Davis. Chris Cooley's presence will prevent Davis from having the impact that his talent says he should have. Cooley, a Pro Bowl tight end in 2007, is just 25 and is signed through 2012. He's also perhaps the most popular Redskin.

With so many other needs, the Redskins don't need two Chris Cooleys. Even with injuries to such starting tight ends as Jeremy Shockey, Todd Heap and L.J. Smith, only two backups at the position caught as many as 30 passes last season:

Ben Utecht of high-powered Indianapolis, who has since signed with Cincinnati; and Chicago's Greg Olsen, the only tight end taken in the first round of the 2007 draft. And neither Utecht nor Olsen reached even 40 catches.

But with no successor to 35-year-old left defensive end Phillip Daniels or injury-plagued 30-year-old strongside linebacker Marcus Washington on the roster, the Redskins took a luxury like Davis.

Perennial contenders New England and Indianapolis can draft the best players on their boards, but when you've won a single playoff game in 15 years and you're 59-72 this millenium, you fill your needs.

Daniels will be 36 next year and Washington will be an old 31. Instead of grooming their successors, the Redskins are looking at replacing them in 2009 with rookies or over-priced free agents.

Does anyone think the teams that start Tom Brady and Peyton Manning would've drafted quarterbacks with their second picks if players at that position had been No. 1 on their boards? The Patriots wisely took a cornerback to replace departed free agent Asante Samuel while the Colts chose a linebacker to succeed the waived Rob Morris.

That's why Bill Belichick and Bill Polian are master architects and Vinny Cerrato has yet to assemble a team that can even host a wild-card game (Charley Casserly built the 1999 Redskins).

Miami (Fla.) end Calais Campbell, an elite passrusher for new Redskins defensive line coach John Palermo in 2006, was still on the board at No. 47. So were the highly-regarded Chris Ellis of Virginia Tech and Quentin Groves of Auburn, both of whom might be switched to outside linebacker as Washington was when he was drafted by the Colts.

Perhaps the above trio can't be every-down ends like Daniels. And Kendall Langford and Bryan Smith, picked in the third round, are from less reliable small schools, but how about Purdue's Cliff Avril?

All the standout college outside linebackers except Keith Rivers and Jordon Dizon were also available at No. 47. Do the Redskins really believe that Dan Connor, Xavier Adibi, Geno Hayes or Shawn Crable couldn't help them more than Davis?

Yes, the Redskins needed bigger targets for Jason Campbell, but they had already drafted 6-2 Devin Thomas and were about to choose 6-4 Malcolm Kelly to complement vertically challenged starting receivers Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El. Taking an end or an outside backer instead of Davis in between Thomas and Kelly would have made so much more sense. As Dan Daly of The Washington Times wrote, no team had used its first three picks on pass-catchers since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.

The Redskins then compounded their mistake by not choosing an end until seventh-rounder Rob Jackson, who had only two sacks (both in the same game) as a Kansas State senior, while not using any of their 10 picks on a linebacker.

Washington drafted a punter for the first time in 15 years but didn't deem a linebacker worth selecting even though Maryland's Erin Henderson, an all-ACC choice, and Georgia Tech's equally worthy Gary Guyton went undrafted?

Davis might have Pro Bowl ability, but with Cooley in front of him, we'll never find out until one of them departs as a free agent. That won't happen before 2012 and that's way too long to wait.

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Posted by: 4th via scout.com | May 9, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Chia, yep Bob Ryan and the doppler are still around. news anchors haven't changed all that much. it seems they mostly just jump TV stations.

Oh and Topper Shut is my favorite name of all-time.


Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

thanks 4th, but DAMN!

Posted by: Anon Babylon | May 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Elfin clearly has an axe to grind with the Redskins. After all, why would a journalist ever write anything negative about this team.

- .250

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

My point in posting that Elfin article is because JLaC and some peeps up here always bag on the Times as them being in cohots with the team. This is from the guy who gets to interview Snyder every other year......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Greg, you're a Celtics fan, correct? I'm curious to know, how does the fan base view the team? Of course they're supportive, I mean they did win 65 games this year. But I would think because the team is cut and paste, maybe some fans wouldn't view them as "their own".

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

As far as that Elfin article goes, lets see how this plays out on the field, before we come to conclusion.

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

You know I am tired of these people writing these columns on how we took luxury and didnt take a succesor to philip daniels. What if chris wilson is the replacement. the problem is not that we did not draft a defensive end the problem is that we did not give the media anyone to drool over or start a contreversy. that is the problem where football meets business. we might have football players that are ready but if the media does not fell like they can market those people then they rip you to shreds because they cant get a story out of it.

Posted by: Great One | May 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm neutral as far as what we did in the draft Greg. I too am waiting for a season or 2 to see if they did well for the night......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

If Davis turns out to be a good TE and is superfluous he would be able to help is in trading for a player we need or more draft choices. Nothing wrong with this pick.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm betting Crummey won't be too...
As long as he is healthey.

And I would like to say thankee to Mister DeNunzioee for bringing us a new postee in perfect RIee formee.

Bravo. DeNunzio.

Posted by: Stumped | May 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I said I was done, but not really.

First the Montana story, and now that piece from Elfin:

"Perennial contenders New England and Indianapolis can draft the best players on their boards, but when you've won a single playoff game in 15 years and you're 59-72 this millenium, you fill your needs."

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Ouch, just ouch...

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

LaRon proved last year after ST died that he can play free safety. Pair him up with Roy Williams play strong safety, stopping the run. Add in Smoot and Springs, and you've got one of the, if not the best defensive backfields in the league.

Posted by: ce1782 | May 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

us in place of is. SJK!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Nice chatting with ya' all.

I'm jumping off my window sill this afternoon.

Thanks, 4th!


Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Damn, I'm depressed.

And now this talk about trading for a Dallas Cowboy?

Oh, the horror!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Nah Chia, no trading with the cowboys, only if he is released.

Posted by: ce1782 | May 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Red, its been so long since the Celtics were relevant, that just putting a winner on the floor this year, has caused the fan-base to rally around the guys they brought in. There was MUCH hand-wringing during the Atlanta series going on around here.

They've brought people back around with the first 2 games versus Cleveland however.

As far as viewing them as their own, it was easy with KG, because he immediately respected and had an appreciation for the history of the franchise. I also think that Pierce had been without a decent wing-man for so long that something like this had to be done.

My 2-cents anyway...

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

people stop associating Roy Williams with the redskins. Secondly it is amazing to me that we drafted a certain positions that we felt were more pertinent. if we drafted a DE then the reporters would complain about not having receivers and injury concerns. you cant build a football team through one draft. more importantly 97% of all sport writers never played football or any other sport in their life and they can tell you how to run your sport. some of these geeks get an asthma attack when they write to many paragraphs.

Posted by: Great One | May 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Bringing in Roy Williams to the Redskins would be disrespecting to Sean Taylor, in my view......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Here is my favorite part of the article:

"Miami (Fla.) end Calais Campbell, an elite passrusher for new Redskins defensive line coach John Palermo in 2006, was still on the board at No. 47."

The problem is that he was largely mediocrre during 2007, and that if his LINE-COACH didn't make a play for him, what does that say about this guy? Hmmmm you think Palermo might have had something to say about what kind of player he thought Campbell might be.

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Amen 4th

very disrespectful to Sean Taylor

Posted by: great one | May 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

No news is ... no news.

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Bringing in Roy Williams to the Redskins would be disrespecting to Sean Taylor, in my view......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 2:36 PM

Seriously? How is that disrespectful? I'm not in favor of bringing in Roy W, but to say that it would be disrespecting makes no sense to me. What would be respectful? 10 players only? They did that already.....

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Bringing in Roy Williams to the Redskins would be disrespecting to Sean Taylor, in my view......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 2:36 PM

Seriously? How is that disrespectful? I'm not in favor of bringing in Roy W, but to say that it would be disrespecting makes no sense to me. What would be respectful? 10 players only? They did that already.....

Posted by: | May 9, 2008 2:41 PM

forgot to sign again...that was me.

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

You know what is interesting about Roy Williams?? He was able to change his number. he has worn 31 for what, 6 years now? And they let him change to 38. How long and Ryan Clark been in the league? And they wouldnt let him change to ST's number?

F the league

Posted by: Zebra | May 9, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

How is it disrespectful to ST? If he wasn't a Cowboy would it still be disrespectful? I didn't like the fact that Williams wanted to wear ST's number in the pro bowl. There will never be another ST, but the redskins need to find someone to help at safety and I don't think doughty is the answer in the long term.

Posted by: ce1782 | May 9, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

When asked who he thought would have a break out season in 2008, Cooleey said Reede Doughteey.

Posted by: Stumped | May 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stumped | May 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

greg, thanks for giving the beantown perspective.

No to the hell on Roy Williams. I think he's a decent safety, but he's a liability in pass coverage. "Dirty Thirty" (Good one jm) can play FS or SS. I would like to see him stay at SS. I think he'll draw comparison to Sean Taylor, if he hasn't already, and thats unfair to both of them.

There is only one Sean, one Laron.

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't get how it would be a disrespect. And "respect" is way over used anyway, what does that even mean in 2008...

That said F Roy Williams! Isn't Reed the same player but younger, cheaper and hungrier?

I liked the "Day Late" Elfin column, I happen to think he is right but hope he is wrong. My brain and heart are rarely aligned....

Also The Wash Times is straight garbage I wouldn't read with someone elses eyes, but that doesn't mean they don't have some decent people working for them.....

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Agree to disagree. Just statin how I felt about crazy 'what if's......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Five Dollar...

Five Dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Five dollar...

Five dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Posted by: Jared | May 9, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

That has been stuck in my head for about 2 weeks now. Just when I got it out, YOU BRING IT BAACK!

Five Dollar...

Five Dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Five dollar...

Five dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Posted by: Anonymous Regular | May 9, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

my agreement with the Elfin column aside, I am eternally aligned with B-Town Greg on the "lets judge on the feild of play" my only caveat to that is over the last 15 years that usually spells doom for skins....

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

F "what ifs"

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard/seen/read anything about Cialis Campbell at the Cardinals mini-camp?

I mean, you really can't say that the Redskins made the wrong decision until there is more evidence to work with? I mean, that only makes sense....

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

anon reg, its been stuck in my head all day! I had to put my thoughts on screen.

Some will say we watch too much TV. But its not that. The damn commercial is so catchy, you can't help but have it implanted in your dome piece.

Five Dollar...

Five Dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Five dollar...

Five dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Posted by: Eat Fresh! | May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Why bring in Roy Williams! Are you kidding... So he can be another Adam Archuleta.... How many times have we all said that the boy can't cover...?

Unless you plan on turning him into an LB..... now to me that makes more sense...

Otherwise - Forget about it...

Posted by: EinVB | May 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

No to Rory.

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

10 min heat check.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

kind of dead 'round these parts.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The only reason I can see the Redskins signing or trading for Roy Williams is for WR/TE injury prevention. Just to make sure none of our WR/TE are on the receiving end of one his mastery of the Horse Collar Tackle or if the Redskins feel that our defense is so great that in order to make things fair for other teams we actually play Roy Williams at safety.

Posted by: 2:28 | May 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Five Dollar...

Five Dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Five dollar...

Five dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Posted by: Anonymous Regular | May 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

If Roy pulls that horse collar crap this year AGAIN, he'll miss at least 2 games for the first personal foul.

Can anyone think of rules that were created for specfic situations involving players. Some that come to mind:

Gilbert Arenas - Arenas Rule
Larry Bird - Larry Brid Rights
Roy Willimas - Douchebaggery Rule

maybe not the last one.

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"... I am eternally aligned with B-Town Greg on the "lets judge on the field of play" ...

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 3:15 PM

Has anyone heard/seen/read anything about Cialis Campbell at the Cardinals mini-camp?

I mean, you really can't say that the Redskins made the wrong decision until there is more evidence to work with? I mean, that only makes sense....

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 3:19 PM

The first of these does not align with the second. As Greg's substitution of the man's first name with a boner producing drug attests, the prejudgment on the guy (as a failure) is obvious. [And the suggestion above is just absurd that future failure should be presumed because the rookie position coach ... under whom he racked up his BEST numbers, only to fall after that guy left ... could not roll The Owner and K-Ninjerrato into picking C.Campbell over Davis.]

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's what's going on:
Jerry Jones realizes that RW isn't as good as touted, and could end up hurting his stars on offense in practice. So he's trying to pull another Deion Sanders on us:
Send him to the redskins, who promptly give him a huge contract/signing bonus. Secretly Jerry is still paying him to be a "mole".....RW does a few horse collars in practice and puts our best receivers on IR. He has a few decent games and is good in the locker room to throw off suspicion. Danny fires Zorn after 1 year, brings in Cowher, a huge disciplinarian (practice hard, play hard)....and Williams retires because he didn't sign up to play for this new coach......leaving the redskins in further cap hell/dead money for years to come. At this point Jerry realizes Danny is gullible/headline hungry enough to actually trade palyers/picks for Roy which will hurt us even more. Put it in the books!

and F Deion Sanders!

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

anybody got some deoderant or even an air freshener to rub on myself. i am stinking like a dirty diaper right now.

Posted by: The Blog | May 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Is it wrong to like a player's game even though he plays for the rival of your favorite team? What if you followed his career through college, and his first few years in the league? I mean you can't help which team that player goes to, so you can't dislike him for that, right?

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Is it wrong to like a player's game even though he plays for the rival of your favorite team? What if you followed his career through college, and his first few years in the league? I mean you can't help which team that player goes to, so you can't dislike him for that, right?

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 4:06 PM


Only if you have him on your fantasy team or trade for him on Madden.....

Posted by: dlhaze | May 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

nah but i got a couple of tic tacs for your halitosis. matter of fact, have the whole case.

Posted by: CVS, 7-Eleven, Rite Aid | May 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

+++ liked the "Day Late" Elfin column, I happen to think he is right but hope he is wrong...

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 3:04 PM++++

Chris--

Couple of points for Elfin:

If Cooley went down, there was no viable replacement for him.

Joe Gibbs utilized THREE TEs, often on the field at the same time, during his offensivde juggernaut Superbowl years.

ZORN wanted another receiving TE to give him flexibility in designing offensive packages.

DAVIS is a converted WR. If his speed demands FS coverage, that puts Cooley against an LB or strong safety, where he can feast. The TWO TE's can force nickle coveages, opening up the run game.

With all these receiver packages, Zorn has terrific flexibility, and should open up both the running and the passing game.

As always, as long as the OLine has its health.

NEXT year, the team MUST address its non-skill positions--both lines and LBs.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

dl, if thats true, i'm not going to make the populous very happy.

me sit down now.
me shut up.

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I believe you can root for a player to suceed and not the team. Or wish then well for every game except for the ones you play against them and other teams they play that affect your playoff chances......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Cork, your first point, was your best one. If Cooley went down, then it was Yoder, and not much else, and thats not much of an option.

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

4th has it right ... it came up this past season when we had to work out "The Favre Consensus". Hard to hate the guy, except before, during, and immediately after that game in Green Bay ... which I STILL say should have been a Skins win (thus balancing out the win the Skins had against the Cards, which should have been a loss). In the post season, Favre against the Giants was incredible.

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

This past season, when they had to pick up the phone to re-sign 13 year vet Brian Kozlowski, tight end became a need for the draft/free agency. Also, like safeties and fullbacks, tight ends are key to the filing out the other ten guys on the field on special teams.

Posted by: dcsween | May 9, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

alright, 4th. my fanhood feels a little more validated now.

but you do realize that is the "assumed" problem in football. that we pay too much attention to whats on the back of the jersey, rather than whats on the helmet.

i'm new school. i believe in the team theory, but i believe a player isn't happy, (money, playing time, direction of the team) then i have no problem with them making it public, as long as it was attempted to keep it private first.

Posted by: Red | May 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I understand the need for a second TE, and all the various arguements, I just believe the second round of the draft was not the spot to try to fill that, I think cheap summer FA, or even grooming a younger guy could have sufficed.

Thats just my opinion and I am holding to it! We can all check back on the evening of week 16 next year and see how it played out...

Like I said i hope elfin, myself and the rest of Hater Nation look dead stupid!!!!!!!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

In a way -- Elfin has a point, but we really won't know how this draft plays out for a few years. The Skins basically made a calculated gamble (that their targeted players would be around in the first half of the second round) and lost. They could have selected DE Phillip Merling with their original 1st round pick and still drafted WR Malcomb Kelly with the second. Instead, Merling was taken two slots before the Skins first selection in the second round and they ended up with Thomas and Davis.

However, I don't buy the criticism about drafting the players for need; regardless of value -- most of the DEs available in the second round were a poor fit in a 4-3 defense and were not good value as a selection at the beginning of the second round. Elfin also forgot to mention that the Skins picked up two rookie DEs (Wilson and Buzbee) last year.

Time will tell if the Skins made a good decision by trading down and selecting the best available players... But in the mean time -- they significantly improved the WR depth and have two good pass receiving TEs to implement the West Coast offense.

Posted by: Siris | May 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Read a piece from a scout this week from Pro-Football Weekly, in which the scout was saying that Merling, to him was just a guy, was what the scout called a "typical" Clemson kid.

We'll see how this pans out over the course of the next few seasons.

Posted by: Greg | May 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

"Calais Campbell, an elite passrusher"

This statement alone by Elfin is a contradiction in terms. (Campbell was a college DE who occasionally fell into the path of the oncoming QB.) If he can't get the basics right, why would anyone believe his conclusions? Maybe Elfin should cover hockey instead.

Posted by: Quiznos | May 9, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Five dollar...

Five dollar...

Five dollar foot loooooooooooong...

Posted by: Anonymous Regular | May 9, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Shoulda gone to freeeeeeeeeeeee credit report dot com

Posted by: Anonymous Irregular | May 9, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

That Subway jingle should be sung by a Vietnamese hooker.

Posted by: G. I. Joe | May 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Back to the blog and what, people are talking football??!!!

Just read the Elfin piece and he is sort of right. The Skins are oldest at OL, DL and LB. Of the 12 starters, 9 are 30+ and no one knows if Rocky will recover enough from his knee problems. Did the Skins draft to need? Not so much.

But rating drafts is always suspect. If 2 of 3 of the receivers turn out to be good players, the Spaghetti Gang will have done just fine on these picks.

If your draft pick contributes significantly in 2-3 years, it was a good pick.

I think of most picks as taking a chance. I'm fine with the Skins taking 2 WRs and if one works, great. But I think they should have taken multiple OL, DL and LB.

A TE, 3rd QB and punter don't address the future.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Now that we've solved the TE crisis, can we set to work on "Lost"'s more and more perplexing plot twists?

Specifically, just what the Hell were the producers drinking when they came up with the....

SPOILER ALERT STOP READING IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET


...."(JACOB) wants us to move the Island" plot twist.


Hey, I've got an idea. Let's just MOVE the island.

Okay, okay, I'll buy that the Smoke Monster doesn't kill Keamy...need a Bad Ass villain.

Didn't really see Locke growing up nerdy, but I'll accept that they needed a filler flashback.

I'll even accept someone dropping a porta-phone GPS device with Norden Bomb Site precision from a moving chopper at night..

I know enough about Hollywood to know actors and their agents influence plot points, so I guess that's why Clair has moved in with Christian and Jacob.

But MOVE THE ISLAND??!! Hell, I looked up "Deus Ex Machina" in my Funk & Wagnalls, and there was a picture of an island being moved.

Someone 'splain all this to me. Please. I'm not going to abandon Lost. It's worse than a crack habit, even if the rocks they've been selling me lately has been stepped on more than a streetwalkers' shoeleather...but COME ON!

Posted by: corkczar is Lost | May 9, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, Elfin was on the Pro Football HOF committee and he was part of presenting Monk, Green and Grimm. As with draft picks if you 2 outta 3 right, you're doing just fine.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 9, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

now its onto Vietnamese hookers and Lost ... this blog is nothing if not eclectic

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 9, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Lost is yak dung.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"Elfin was on the Pro Football HOF committee "

That has about as much validity as Roy Williams going to the Pro Bowl. Did Elfin work as a coach or in a scouting organization, or did he attend journalism school?

Posted by: Quiznos | May 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

What's Skippy think of Lost? Skip, you out there?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Avoid the yak dung, but yak butter isn't that good either

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 9, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

corky, they have already hinted in the past the island moves/shimmers/switches locales......

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

F chris larry. fo sho.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse


+++ corky, they have already hinted in the past the island moves/shimmers/switches locales......

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 5:06 PM++++

Sure, but Iv'e always thought that was like the NBA playoffs. Couple games here. Couple games there. Here an Island, there an Island.

Also, I realize it moves through the Space/Time continuum. (So does my Uncle Bob. ) I understand that. But I wouldn't have been more shocked if Sulu showed up to dial in the Warp.

And it was silly enough to see Clair sitting in the house that the 12-year-dead ghost built, but then when he emerged and Locke says "he wants us to move the Island" I had my own flashback...I thought I was watching "Police Squad."

And what up with Jacob? He's got his own press agent, now? Because that's what our boy Christian appears to be.

"Good to see you again, John. Have a nice trip? Yeah, it's not the heat, but the humidity. Can I get you a nice cocktail or some beer nuts? Jake said he loves your work, by the way, and hopes you two can do lunch sometime soon. But right now, he's got a ton of things on his plate... Oh, you know Clair, don't you?"

Posted by: corkczar is Lost | May 9, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

No one posted anything in the time it took me to read the whole 'Lost' transcript? Anyone? Hello?

Posted by: Not much going on. . . | May 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Hello, Not much going on.

Posted by: Anyone | May 9, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

That Subway jingle should be sung by a Vietnamese hooker.

Posted by: G. I. Joe | May 9, 2008 4:51 PM

LMAO

Posted by: Keyskonnection | May 9, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

F the space time continuum.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I am loving the frequency of non-Jasno authored threads.

Keep it coming WaPo!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Knock, Knock.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Is this place closed?

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Just watched "Lost". God I love that show. But, I agree..."move the island"??? The producers hinted earlier this year that we would eventually find out that there is a whole subterranean culture involved. Hmmm...

In any event, it is that time here on the left coast. Time to drink to excess and make questionable moral decisions. Until tomorrow!

Posted by: P Diddy | May 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeewwwwwwww
(sound of wind blowing through wide open space)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Any of you all watch the show "Intevention" on A & E ? It's a great show!!!

Posted by: sicwidit | May 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

WOW! (Oops, better not use wow anymore or I may be connected with anon!) This place is dead!

May as well take P Diddy's advice and drink to excess and make questionable moral decisions.

Bong! Oops, I meand SHOT!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 9, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: stumped | May 9, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey, with Vinny and Danny running the show when I first read this, I thought it said "Picking Up Two Terds."

Thank you! I'll be here all week!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

amazing...everyone has a life tonight! congrats!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 9, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

No kidding... weird.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

My life just FINALLY went to sleep! Lil dude cried about 1.5 hours. I've never seen a baby fight sleep like him.

He lost in 15 round split decision. But, he said there'll be a rematch tomorrow night...........

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | May 9, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

4th -- you hope for tomorrow night, sometimes it's 2AM...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

We have the same deal going with our five-month-old, 4th. Little guy had no interest whatsoever in going to sleep tonight.

We brokered a temporary settlement which he's currently deliberating in chambers. I expect we'll hear more from him in a bit, maybe an eleventh-hour agreement along the same lines as your deal with your little guy.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about you, but a vietnamese hooker promising "five dollar foot long" is NOT going to get my business.

But apparently Ronaldo's...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

You know, someone suggested rubbing scotch on his gums, but I doubt he'd appreciate the Glenfiddich like I do.
I recommend scotch on your gums instead.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Good one C&D.

Actually the 2am deal is better. Warm bottle, give him a fresh diaper, and he'll suck down that bottle with his eyes closed and go right back to sleep.

It's still early over there, though, Nate. So you guys have ample time......

Posted by: 4th | May 9, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

itunes just shuffled up the theme from "Chariots of Fire," that great synthesizer tune they play during the training run down the beach. Corny as hell, but dang, I love this song.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't have the self-control necessary not to share this, probably one of the greatest double entendres you could pull off in a real newspaper headline, and I am not making this up: "Great tits cope well with warming."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7390109.stm

It's about birds.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 9, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

this is the first posting i've made since the seattle loss.

and it feels good.

the san francisco air is chilling up and it's starting to feel like football weather. or at least OTA weather.

a few items-

-i just watched some highlights of fred davis at USC. he's a stud- athletic as hell. seems like a guy that could be a weapon. also- i did see on a USC scouting page that his hobbies were "sleeping and playing video games." which explains a lot.

-can we blame cerrato for JC's hamstring pull? if not, can i blame him for stubbing the S out of my toe two nights ago?

-i miss sean taylor.

-i think laron's going to have a pro bowl year this year, and i hope one of the rookie safeties steps up to equally intimidating status.

-where does mike sellers figure in to all this?

-i tried to be positive about the draft. now that the dust has settled, i don't like us drafting a punter over another lineman or a DL guy. that's just weird. he'd better wear the single bar facemask OR be black. ideally, he'd be both. he'd be reggie roby jr.

-zorn seems like he might be a bit flaky.

-i love the fact that this season's team is close to last season's. add a healthy line (as of right now in early may). and, there are no expectations with our young rookie non-legendary coach. could be a fun season...

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 9, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

That'll teach you to trust "I feel lucky"...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back, dwdjmu. Great stuff.

So you're in SF, eh? You must be psyched for the Skins' visit to Candlestick this fall. Er, I guess it's technically early winter since it's the end of December. But you catch my drift.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

nate- i am in high, albeit foggy, cotton.

the skins come out here to play the revamped niners three days after christmas.

and, for my 30th birthday, which was a week ago today, my girlfriend went ahead and lined up 3rd row tickets at fed ex for the philly game the week before that.

double dipping on the burgundy and gold.

currently drinking a full sail LTD brew in the name of randy thomas' tricep.

hail!

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 10, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

--//Ch Ch Ch Chia\\--

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

I nominate 2:28 for the RI HOF.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

2:28 deserves a big ole' welcome.


WELCOME, 2:28!


Love that guy...

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

The only reason I can see the Redskins signing or trading for Roy Williams is for WR/TE injury prevention. Just to make sure none of our WR/TE are on the receiving end of one his mastery of the Horse Collar Tackle or if the Redskins feel that our defense is so great that in order to make things fair for other teams we actually play Roy Williams at safety.

Posted by: 2:28 | May 9, 2008 3:48 PM


---------------------

F Roy Williams!

We have Chris Horton...


Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Happy thirtieth, dwd!

I LOVE that Full Sail LTD, the lager they have right now -- have horsed back a bunch of that stuff. The first bottling of that was one of the best beers I've ever tasted. Delicious.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

We may have a Chris Horton, Chia Pet, but the Canadians have Tim Horton's. They win this one.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Chia Pet, who the hell are you? You're one of the 'regulars,' right? I can't figure it out. Love your work up here.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

By all means! Nate sup!

Posted by: Club 320 | May 10, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Just back from the ballroom in ballston. And carpool...

Posted by: Club 320 | May 10, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

As a season tix holder with my BRO, we love the zero expectation factor of Zorn. If Gibbs was still in. We would be like "playoffs, OK, now take next step."

Posted by: Club 320 | May 10, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Right on, 320! Here's to low expectations. Here's to underpromising and overdelivering.

Dude, are you coming to the meet-up on June 7? I can't remember if I heard from you about baseball tix. Lemme know... I'll send a reminder mail at some point...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

OMG! Nate. I am in sales and the phrase OVERPROMISE and UNDERDELIVER is a staple of my biz. I will get you the paypal or pay in person I promise. I spend most of my days with clients at the Navy Yard right next to the stadium. I am in, no worries. I am just ready for fubal, good/bad indifferent. I am a fan. And hammered, currently!

Posted by: Club 320 | May 10, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

-i think laron's going to have a pro bowl year this year,...

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 9, 2008 11:49 PM

i hope yer right, dwdjmu. does it still count if he hits and covers like an all-pro, but doesn't get the vote?

count me in the column that's happy ya came back. yer post is sane and provocative.

mike sellers? i like to see the guy block and i like to see him catchin' swing passes. but am i the only guy that thinks he tiptoes into the line when it's 4th and 1 and the let him carry the ball? did anybody see him drive the pile?

finally, yes fred davis is a stud.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | May 10, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Right on, 320, and hear hear for being hammered (and getting home safely, with maps, and etc.) in the name of fun. Really glad you can make it. This is going to be a great time.

Chia Pet, I was being serious above -- loving your work, but puzzled about your 'identity' up here... hope I didn't offend.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Maybe he's too tall, Willie, to get that push when he's carrying the ball... obviously he gets to use his arms when he's lead blocking, but maybe the problem is when he's wrapping up the rock and trying to get the pile moving, he's really concerned with his high center of gravity relative to the fatsos in front of him... just a dumb theory... he's really doggone tall for a ball carrier...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Not going to lie. I got pulled tonight cause I got a bumb rear right light. freaked out. told the lady cop I had 2 beers 4 hours previous. got a warning tix for the light and we joked about the SKins. She said "good thing yer a skins fan, otherwise I would have to ticket you!!"

Posted by: Club 320 | May 10, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Ach, 320, come on, brother, that's a bummer... next time take a cab!

I look fwd to meeting you next month in DC, my man.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Skins say Zorn treats them like adults and the coaches let them do there thing.

Ball coach anyone?

I saw this on comcast sellers and CP, moss made these statements.


Posted by: mul | May 10, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Okay so the Nationals had their Fireworks Spectacular last night at the end of the game 11:00 pm ish Sounded like 10 minutes of machine gun fire and I am a few blocks away.

Anyway speaking of which anyone here interested in going to a ball game tonight?

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 10, 2008 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Not going to lie. I got pulled tonight cause I got a bumb rear right light. freaked out. told the lady cop I had 2 beers 4 hours previous. got a warning tix for the light and we joked about the SKins. She said "good thing yer a skins fan, otherwise I would have to ticket you!!"

Posted by: Club 320 | May 10, 2008 2:18 AM

So, 'Skins fan gets you off with a warning? Good thing this didn't happen to Jasno or he'd be doing hard time in the big house.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 10, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Skins say Zorn treats them like adults and the coaches let them do there thing.

Posted by: mul | May 10, 2008 2:44 AM

Can you imagine if Williams had gotten the job? He'd treat them like six-year-olds with Down's syndrome.

Posted by: Motivator | May 10, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Chia Pet, I was being serious above -- loving your work, but puzzled about your 'identity' up here... hope I didn't offend.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: | May 10, 2008 2:14 AM

Come on, Nate, get serious. It's a Chia Pet. How can you offend a Chia Pet?

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 10, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

well, you can make jokes about his "loose pores"...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 10, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Come on, Nate, get serious. It's a Chia Pet. How can you offend a Chia Pet?

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 10, 2008 7:22 AM

Now, see, that's the kind of thing we're talking about. No call for that.

Posted by: United Chia Pet Anti-Defamation Association | May 10, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Come on, Nate, get serious. It's a Chia Pet. How can you offend a Chia Pet?

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 10, 2008 7:22 AM

This is how it starts. It ends when you round us all up and put us in concentration camps with the Geico cavemen. Chia Pets have feelings too, Mr. Ruthless Heartless.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

A chia pet TV show would do better though

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 10, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

THE TRUTH ABOUT BOOZE, GUMS AND OLD WIVES


+++You know, someone suggested rubbing scotch on his gums, but I doubt he'd appreciate the Glenfiddich like I do.
I recommend scotch on your gums instead.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 9, 2008 11:11 PM++++

Could have told you that's an old wives' tale. I did it to my kid (it's to aid teething, allegedly). He screamed for two hours, then stole my car and went out looking for Vietnamese hookers.

Seriously, a waste of booze. better you should rub it on an old wife's tail instead.

Incidentally, while in Northern Ireland, I toured the Old Bushmill's plant, and was picked to participate in the blind tasting. When it was over, I was blind and had picked their "cheap stuff"--the basic 12 year old--as the pick of the litter. On the way back to Belfast we stopped at a Protestant village and shot a guy. Good times, my friend. Good times.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 10, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: United Chia Pet Anti-Defamation Association | May 10, 2008 8:42 AM

Chia PETA?

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

NO HEROS LEFT

Damn. I IDOLIZED Admiral Stufflebeem. It's awful when you learn your heroes have clay feet. Or penises.

I guess I should not have been surprised. You have to figure someone who goes through life named Stufflebeem is gonna have some issues.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Chia PETA?

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2008 10:44 AM

Sounds like a cheap Italian econobox - perfect for touring Sicily on a Saturday morning, the backseat filled with young kids.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

It's awful when you learn your heroes have clay feet. Or penises.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 10, 2008 10:44 AM

This is another slur on us Chias. We have clay feet, penises, arms, legs, heads, everything. What's wrong with that?

I'm asking Cindy to take down these offensive posts.

It's even worse when you learn your czar is cork.

Posted by: Clay rules, flesh drools | May 10, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like a cheap Italian econobox - perfect for touring Sicily on a Saturday morning, the backseat filled with young kids.

Posted by: | May 10, 2008 10:51 AM

Wagging its antenna at the Ferraris and Maseratis zooming by.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Please don't use the word "penises" before noon.

Man law!

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Please don't use the word "penises" before noon.

Man law!

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2008 11:09 AM


I'm blogging from the observatory in Greenwich, England. 3:30 pm where I am. Get with the times, yank.

Posted by: Clay rules, flesh drools | May 10, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Sorry mate, in Burtonsville Hangover Time (BHT), the sun has barely risen.

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

___________________________________________

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Chia Pet under investigation for Inappropriate Contact
After finding a series of holes in the bottoms of terra cotta pots, authorities have arrested Chia Pet, of 123 Left Windowsill, Derwood, Md. on charges of public nudity, lewd behavior with Special Circumstances, and mopery.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 10, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Keep in mind, some of these people signed are not expected to ever make season roster but are signed to compile a list for "in season" transactions.......

Posted by: CLEGG | May 10, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Hi My name is SKIPPY and I have a metal plate in my head. I live in a Doublewide with Mama, the twins of my dead sister and my cat "Mr. Whiskers IV." I really really like Lemon Meringue Pie.

Someone emailed Skippy to ask what he thought of "Lost."

Skippy believes Locke is the key to the story. Clair, who was at Jacob's house is secretly married to Christian, who is a Metaphor for the history of christianity and specifically, the Crusades. Jacob represents Murray the K, the unofficial Fifth Beatle.

The character "Hugo" was originally supposed to be a woman, and played by Kirstie Alley, but producers felt she as too fat for the role.

The Smoke Monster, a special effect, is based on the later work of Cheech Marin. It represents the anarchy of the sixties, whereas the Dharma Initiative is a stand in for the Military Industrial complex. The eternal conflict between the two is the true dynamic of Lost.

It is easy to go from that point and understand that "Jack" is the symbol for Big Medicine and Health Care, Michael is a symbol for the enslavement of African Americans. The Professor just wants to nail Gilligan. Three hour cruise? Ha! Skippy laughs up his shorts at THAT theory.

Some have thought the most recent episode confusing. Well, Duh. During the writers' strike, the entire cast and crew of the program remained in Hawaii drinking Mai-Tais and smoking the Ganja, Man.

Little known fact: This weeks' script was turned in written entirely on watermellon rinds.

Skippy's third cousin, twice removed (once forceably), is an intern on the show and feeds Skippy this insider info.

Also, because a temporary recession of Sun Spot activity, Skippy's plate is unaffected by radio waves, at least temporarily, and hence his logic and spelling is significantly improved.

For more Skippy stuff, including a definition of SUPERDELEGATES, go to AskSkippy.blogspot.com


Posted by: AskSkippy.blogspot.com | May 10, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

maybe these new wideouts and fred davis will light a fire under santana.

honestly, the dude hasn't impressed me.

sure, the brunell cowboys game two years ago on MNF was a piece of redskins history. that was awesome.

i do feel like his fumble in that game at lambeau last season was deadly for the skins. that game really set them back a bit.

but these days it seems like he's frustrated. he hasn't had a big yardage year or a big touchdown year at all here.

maybe with the "big target" (so sick of hearing that year in and year out) of malcolm kelly or anthony mix (who knows) will be the art monk to santana's gary clark.

also- this is good:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/terrell_owens_not_sure_about_this

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Skippy. My main man.

You been gone too long.

Puff, puff, pass.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | May 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It was I who summoned you, Skippy. I don't know how many of you there are, but that was a great Skippy.

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

It was I who summoned you, Skippy. I don't know how many of you there are, but that was a great Skippy.

Posted by: SMACK | May 10, 2008 2:30 PM

Only one REAL Skippy. Only one Fred Davis. only one Julius Caesar. Only one Richard Simmons. All the same person, who is a semi-regular poster and will remain so as long as he remembers his roughage.

Posted by: Skippy, F. davis, R. Simmons, & Julie Baby | May 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Just checked the NASA sunspots web, and I'm not buying this Skippy. That was not Skippy but an im-post-er who calls himself Skippy. It ain't the real Skippy without the Skippy spelling.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Been havin' a rough couple of days, guys; just feeling out of sorts, like it's been too long for me in this darn windowsill, tried to jump off yesterday, like I said I would, then remembered I can't move, not even an inch.

You all sure do know how to kick a good chia when he's down, don't you? So many barbs slung in my direction, I don't know where to begin.

Nate, TE is correct: I am an inanimate object; a clay figurine. Cleverly worded missives do not faze me.

I was designed to play host to a rich carpet of sprouts, that when in full bloom, resemble hair; big poofy green hair. As we have discussed on this blog before, however, in order to achieve the desired effect, proper care must be taken by whoever "buys" me, but don't get me started...

Not only do I not take offense to your 2:14 post, I am quite flattered you have acknowledged me on your blog.

What took you so long?

As far as "who" I am; Cload has taken the liberty of publishing my home address in his 1:03PM post: Chia Pet, 123 Left Windowsill, Derwood, Md.

To the anon at 10:52AM who wrote:

"This is another slur on us Chias. We have clay feet, penises, arms, legs, heads, everything. What's wrong with that?"

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Anon, take another look. Chia do NOT have sex organs dangling from betwixt their legs. We are made in a Chinese factory. No penis, no balls. I swear!

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Chia Pet TV is great idea, though. I would like to have the focus on Chia Pet neglect. Is Geraldo working on anything?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

Are you saying that you don't expect the 'Skins to make the playoffs in '08 because it's Zorn's first year?

I don't know. Haven't some first-year coaches made the playoffs? The InterGoogles tell me that this feat was accomplished as recently as '06 by Mangini in the brutal AFC East.

I have high expectations for this '08 squad, at least another Wild Card appearance. Should I lower my expectations?

Posted by: SCSkins | May 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Anon, take another look. Chia do NOT have sex organs dangling from betwixt their legs. We are made in a Chinese factory. No penis, no balls. I swear!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 3:08 PM

My God. The Chinese castrated poor Chia! Probably using his hoo-hoo in some sort of viriity treatment now that it's hard to get elephant tusks.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Herschel Walker DID it! (Disassociative Identity Disorder.)

The question is, which Herschel Walker? According to Herschel, the talented football player out of Georgia, the one who played from 1986 to 1997 in the NFL, and the USFL before that, the "football player," was merely one of his many personalities.

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Interesting tidbit from Wiki:

"Herschel the Turkey," is a mocking "honor" given out by the Star Tribune newspaper to particularly inept or disgraceful Minnesota sports personalities.

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If JaLa were writing for the Star Tribune, would they honor him in that manner?

Herschel Turkey?


Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Just joshin' ya, JaLa.

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure JaLa would qualify for the honor. They said it is reserved for "sports personalities."

Like Wilbon?

Herschel Turkey for his comments about Sean Taylor?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

SCSkins,

Yes, you should lower your expectations for the 2008 Washington Redskins.

Playoffs would be nice, don't get me wrong, but I'll settle for taking care of business on our home turf against the Gints, Iggles, and Boys.

Home: Away:
Arizona San Francisco
St. Louis Seattle
Cleveland Baltimore
Pittsburgh Cincinnati
New Orleans Detroit

The remainder of the home games; I'll call 3-2. I'm hoping for 4-1 on the road. That makes 7-3 outside of our division. I'd like to see us go 4-2 against our division; which would mean 11-5, which I think is really hopeful, not all together impossible, but not at all likely either.

Let's start with beating the Gints, Iggles, and Boys at home?


Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Mono blogging is overrated, that's for sure.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

BEEP BEEP!

Posted by: Cindy | May 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

is that a fake beep beep? I mean is someone pretending to be the overseer?

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

A new post on the weekend?
I think not.

Our early season schedule is ... I think 'harrowing' is not an overstatement. Survive it, and things could get very exciting.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Mono blogging is overrated, that's for sure.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 10, 2008 4:14 PM

Beats not blogging at all, but if you do it too much you'll grow hair in the palm of your hand and then you'll go blind.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 10, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Our early season schedule is ... I think 'harrowing' is not an overstatement. Survive it, and things could get very exciting." - Cload


Unfortunately I am one of those optimist Redskin fans. Obviously our new team focus is the offense in a very defense oriented conference. If our Offense can improve to the point where we can compete with these defense's I say we have a shot at a very good season. However, this is a very, very tall order. Although I remain hopeful that we can do it.

Posted by: Buckley Skinsftw | May 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

geek! geek!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Where have all the bloggers gone?
Long time passing.
Where have all the bloggers gone?
Long time ago.

Recovering from a thrilling 3-2 victory by my soccah team this evening to end our season and cruised by RI to check in.

Appears it just me and some tumbleweeds up in here.

Posted by: sfskin | May 10, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or is the blog broken?

Posted by: sfskin | May 10, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

it's not you

Posted by: Anonymous | May 10, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

We're all out on the internets telling them that Clinton has to quit.
As best I can tell, this is important because hauling her fat legs around the country has changed the demand curve for crude oil, and maps, such as...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 10, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Me, some tumbleweeds and AnAnon.

Hola AnAnon.

So I guess I'll engage in some idle musings. Many redundant redundancies.

- I worry about ZoJo in terms of some of the stuff that we saw with Gibbs 2.0 like clock management. I feel like that stuff needs to be down cold or it could be a soul suckage for the team.

- Does ZoJo really understand/appreciate that the NFC East is a very different ballgame from NFC West? Of course his teams did beat us twice in playoffs so something was done right but still.

- This is going to sound really dumb but I actually think the opener against the Gints is about as critical a game as you can get. I realize it's first game away on Thursday against SB champs so expectations may be low. But if it's a loss either in a squeaker or blowout particularly if it shows that we haven't fully adapted to new playbook I worry it sets the tone. Very much like the first Gints game last season.

- On the other hand I actually think we could go 11-5 all depending on the health of our key spots QB, RB, RT/LT, DBs and WRs.

- But we need to come into this season with a ferocious hunger and nothing to lose attitude. I think Zojo may actually help bring that team wide.

- I worry that the right side of our o-line is going to be a merry-go-round of players again with injuries. . . based purely on last 2 seaons.

- I hate to say this out loud but Nov 3 against the Steelers is an acceptable loss to me for political reasons. With the exception of 2004 when we lose our home game before election the incumbent party loses the WH. Unless 2004 flipped the luck in which case Go Skins!

- 2 cents on unis - bring back spear helmet, burgundy jerseys on black pants with burgund accents and gold used as highlights for division games when opps play in whites. Otherwise white jerseys on burgundy pants. Our burgundies used to be bad luck but I think that hasn't held up.

Okay done now.

Posted by: sfskin | May 11, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Me, some tumbleweeds and AnAnon.

Hola AnAnon.

So I guess I'll engage in some idle musings. Many redundant redundancies.

- I worry about ZoJo in terms of some of the stuff that we saw with Gibbs 2.0 like clock management. I feel like that stuff needs to be down cold or it could be a soul suckage for the team.

- Does ZoJo really understand/appreciate that the NFC East is a very different ballgame from NFC West? Of course his teams did beat us twice in playoffs so something was done right but still.

- This is going to sound really dumb but I actually think the opener against the Gints is about as critical a game as you can get. I realize it's first game away on Thursday against SB champs so expectations may be low. But if it's a loss either in a squeaker or blowout particularly if it shows that we haven't fully adapted to new playbook I worry it sets the tone. Very much like the first Gints game last season.

- On the other hand I actually think we could go 11-5 all depending on the health of our key spots QB, RB, RT/LT, DBs and WRs.

- But we need to come into this season with a ferocious hunger and nothing to lose attitude. I think Zojo may actually help bring that team wide.

- I worry that the right side of our o-line is going to be a merry-go-round of players again with injuries. . . based purely on last 2 seaons.

- I hate to say this out loud but Nov 3 against the Steelers is an acceptable loss to me for political reasons. With the exception of 2004 when we lose our home game before election the incumbent party loses the WH. Unless 2004 flipped the luck in which case Go Skins!

- 2 cents on unis - bring back spear helmet, burgundy jerseys on black pants with burgund accents and gold used as highlights for division games when opps play in whites. Otherwise white jerseys on burgundy pants. Our burgundies used to be bad luck but I think that hasn't held up.

Okay done now.

Posted by: sfskin | May 11, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Apologies for double post.

Effin movealbe type.

Posted by: sfskin | May 11, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

We're all out on the internets telling them that Clinton has to quit.
As best I can tell, this is important because hauling her fat legs around the country has changed the demand curve for crude oil, and maps, such as...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 11, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Draft Corner: Russ Lande
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Russ Lande
WarpathInsiders.com May 9, 2008

Lande, who spent three years as a scout for the Cleveland Browns, is the publisher of GM Jr., which produces an annual draft guide. He also contributes to the Sporting News. To order the guide, or for more information, visit gmjr.com.

Q: Overall, how would you assess the Redskins' draft?

A: They did a good job. I wouldn't be jumping for joy, but they got two good receivers. Both can't start, but both will get playing time. Thomas will help as a kickoff return guy, but I like them both. I'm not sold on Fred Davis in the second round. I don't know if he's going to be what you want because he'll be a backup and I don't know how he'll handle being a backup and if he'll put in the time necessary to be productive, as a guy who will be used in a variety of ways. I liked the offensive lineman Rinehart. He has the chance to become a starter. He'll surprise people with how good he is. I think a lot of people sort of liked him during the season and then he went to the Senior Bowl and he was outstanding. He was one of the two or three best linemen all week down there. Everybody I spoke to said this kid is really good. He had a real strong week there. That's what got him in to the third round. Before that he was viewed as a late-round guy; I saw him as more of an athlete and he needed work on his consistency. But he really shined. If I remember, he played a lot of guard down there.

Q: What position do you think Chad projects to?

A: He can play right tackle or guard. I think he's best suited to guard. He may have to add weight, but he's a strong kid, a competitive kid. He used his hands tremendously at the Senior Bowl. He was really impressive to me.

Q: Who do you look at as a potential steal?

A: Tryon the cornerback has a chance to be a starter. When I watched him on film, I liked him and called others to find out what they thought and they all agreed he wsa one of the two or three most explosive, athletic corners on the West Coast. He's short, but he's quick-footed, athletic, instinctive. He's just short, but he'll be a good player. The kid from Nicholls State is a big kid and athletic, but really raw. He'll need to develop, that's probably the best word. He might be a guy you keep as the last DB or put him on the practice squad. He's a ways away. I won't say he doesn't have the talent, but he just needs to develop that ability. He's not a polished kid. He plays physical all the time, when he's off the ball or in zone, he's not as consistently productive. I love the pick of Colt Brennan in the sixth round. You get a guy who if you ask teams in December, they would have said best case second round, worst case third round. Everyone thought on the field he was a really good player. At the Senior Bowl, he weighed 187 pounds and looked like a high school quarterback in terms of size. He didn't show the arm strength and written off there. He threw better at the Combine, but teams had made up their mind. I wouldn't be shocked if two years from now he's 220 pounds and he's still the backup but he does well in the preseason when he's filling in that they could end up trading him for a third. In two or three years someone may be interested in him as a starter.

Q: How can the receivers help the offense?

A: Devin Thomas needs work because he's a raw kid. He's not real polished. He's a legit high 4.4s guy, but not a 4.40 guy. He can run through arm tackles and he can make plays in the open field when he has the ball. He's a legit big-play guy with natural hands who plucks the ball easily. He just needs refinement on the small stuff like route-running and setting up defenders, driving off the ball at the snap. In terms of physical gifts there's not much he doesn't have. Kelly is the other way. He doesn't have the explosiveness that Thomas does but when you look at just his natural football skills he knows how to catch the ball. He knows how to use his body and shield guys to get space when he needs space. He's a competitive runner after the catch, but he's not an explosive home run hitter. And he's the most competitive blocker I've ever graded. There were times I'd see him get a guy and he body slams him. He's a great blocker. So I wouldn't be surprised if he plays earlier than Thomas. Thomas will play here and there but Kelly's ability as a blocker could get him out there quick. His routes are so-so, but he has great hands and knows what he's doing a little more than Thomas, who is a more physically gifted raw kid. Kelly dropped because of a bad 40 time and then he didn't respond correctly, but two different guys told me he was a top-20 pick when they graded him on film.

Q: What were you disappointed in?

A: Well, Fred Davis to me, I don't understand why they took him in the second round. You have Cooley and you're not dumping or benching him. Unless you have a guy who's a perfect H-back and I don't think this guy can be. Part of being an H-back is that you have to block somebody. I don't know if he'll work hard enough to learn different things to play there. You have to be really involved and I don't know if he'll work hard enough to learn different things. If you're not a mature hard-working kid, tight end is a bad position to play. I love Rinehart. I'm never of taking a punter or kicker in the draft, but [Brooks] is a good punter. He should make it. When you look at Kareem Moore and Rob Jackson and Chris Horton, all three should help on special teams. While they may not be good enough to start, they're the type whose intensity and passion and competitiveness will lhelp them be good teams guys and if they have to start for a game or two, you can probably get by because they do all the fundamental things to be OK. They'll be the fourtn end, the fourth safety, who makes plays on special teams and who does everything in practice. It's a solid draft. It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible. I look at Dallas and they had less picks, but they might come out with more players who will end up being good in the long run.

Q: Did they make a major mistake not taking a defensive end?

A: It probably came down to they get to their pick and saying no one is here that they love. When you look at their defense and Phillip Daniels, there were guys like Phillip Merling and Calais Campbell, but they fit the mold of a Daniels. They wanted more of an edge speed guy. There were a few of those guys in this year's draft. Jacksonville flew up and got Harvey and I can understand if they didn't want to use a high pick on Quentin Groves because of off-field concerns. After those two, who else is left. You could gamble and reach on a guy and take Cliff Avril in the third round. He's an athlete, but he's not a good player. Or do you say you'll draft the best players and fill every other need and try to get by with someone you'll sign who's a veteran out there. They didn't want to reach.

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Posted by: 4th via scout.com | May 11, 2008 2:42 AM | Report abuse

this thing on?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 4:21 AM | Report abuse

Ye blog is cursed I tell the.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 11, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

4th--Thanks for posting the draft analysis from Scouts.com. One of the best (and most optimistic) that I've read. It does make Fred Davis sound like a square peg in a round hole. A good square peg, but a square peg nonetheless.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 11, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Please don't make fun of my multiple personality condition.

Posted by: Hershel Walker | May 11, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Please don't make fun of my multiple personality condition.

Posted by: Hershel Walker | May 11, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

During attmept to post, I got THIS message. Hey, maybe the Blog really IS Broken?

Got an error: Bad ObjectDriver config: Connection error: User wpniblog_mt has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections

Posted by: What up with this? | May 11, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

TIME FOR A NEW POST!

Posted by: Anon | May 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

That error is clearly a "Too Many Users" error: there must be at least a thousand active connections Up Here.
Wow... Just wow.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

It's okay to make fun of my Multiple Personality Condition

Posted by: Herschel Walker | May 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

It's okay to make fun of my Multiple Personality Condition

Posted by: Herschel Walker | May 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Champions, again. Sorry SMACK there's always next year, although probably not.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 11, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

400th!

That's all I got........

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | May 11, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I am loving the new JReid-led blog!

Good decision WaPo!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't yit know if this been discussed fo' 'cause I don't much like readin' all them posts. But kin anyone tell me if a poss'ble Jason Taylor trade (mayhaps for Randle El and a draft pick next yir?) has been mentioned and what the talk on it is?

Posted by: jeremiahjones | May 11, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I am the king of the 10 pm blog hour.

Posted by: farstriker | May 11, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

crickets riding tumbleweed...

indeed- that scouting report WAS optimistic. especially with the OL kid. and the two true WRs. still makes you feel like everybody except skins fans thinks of them as fairly irrelevant. everybody wants to talk sexy about the pats, the cowboys, what a great draft the (totally sucky) chiefs had.

and sadly, it appears that fred davis is a bust already. he hasn't even gotten to suit up yet for game 1, and i guess it would just be best if he didn't.

really pulling for a new post of some sort within the next 48 hours-

on a lifestyle note, i saw kids in the hall perform live out here in SF last night. pretty solid comedy- i laughed hard. brought back early 90s memories- back in the day when kurt gouveia laid some heavy zubaz lumber.

and now the red stripes are going down like nectar of the gods.

please let the summer of 08 fly by like they always do. wishing i could teleport to the thursday night giants game...

HAIL

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

All this Chia Pet talk reminds me of my all-time favorite trade show schwag: a "Chia Mr. T" from the Nickelodeon booth at a Cable TV conference. It's the only time I've ever stood in line for trade show garbage.

BTW, the same show had a Spice Channel booth with a giant bed on which you could get your picture taken with adult film stars. Needless to say, the line for that booth was out of control. I decided to relax on a lounge chair at the Cartoon Network booth next door. Had a wonderful conversation with Yogi Bear, who turned out to be my girlfriend for the week.

This led me to conclude one of my life mottos: "Everyone wins when the Spice Channel is involved."

Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend. :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | May 12, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

dwdjmu, why assume Fred Davis is a bust simply because a scouting report did not give him 5 stars????

Everyone needs a chance. Anthony Montgomery was classified as being unmotivated in college - and his first year when the Skins - but now he is a totally different players.

Everyone needs a chance before they are judged.

Posted by: Lisa | May 12, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Catching up on teevee...

Was this week's "The Office" awesome or what? Hilarious!

Posted by: P Diddy | May 12, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

I would rather have no posts than any more Jasno posts. The guy is a complete hack.

The only people that do not recognize this are the regulars here, who think Jasno is God and infallible, and ChRiS laRrY (a fellow waste of space)

Keep it coming with JReid and non-Jasno posts!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

and a hearty and warm good morning to you as well anon! I so enjoy the witty back and forth with you. I deeply hope all is well with you and that you embark on a spendtacular week full of victories and sweet moments!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

This thing broke?

Posted by: Greg | May 12, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Is this thing broke?

Posted by: Greg | May 12, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

and a hearty and warm good morning to you as well anon! I so enjoy the witty back and forth with you. I deeply hope all is well with you and that you embark on a spendtacular week full of victories and sweet moments!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

and a hearty and warm good morning to you as well anon! I so enjoy the witty back and forth with you. I deeply hope all is well with you and that you embark on a spendtacular week full of victories and sweet moments!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

and a hearty and warm good morning to you as well anon! I so enjoy the witty back and forth with you. I deeply hope all is well with you and that you embark on a spendtacular week full of victories and sweet moments!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

and a hearty and warm good morning to you as well anon! I so enjoy the witty back and forth with you. I deeply hope all is well with you and that you embark on a spendtacular week full of victories and sweet moments!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

So to answer my own question, yes, indeed, this thing is broke.

Posted by: Greg | May 12, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, I'm the only one who got the memo.....

Posted by: Greg | May 12, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back blog......

Posted by: 4th | May 12, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

* massive sigh of relief that the blog's back on... followed by equally massive pang of guilt for caring so much about this ridiculous, wonderful blog *


-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Redskins incentive is plain and simple

When former Redskins receiver Art Monk was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in February, he told the story of how he arrived in Washington as a first-round draft choice in 1980 and was given a logo-less burgundy helmet. The message was that he'd have to earn his Redskins feathers. Current Redskins owner Daniel Snyder liked Monk's story, so he passed on the idea to first-year head coach Jim Zorn, who has adopted the approach. "Those young guys look at the logo and then they have a sense of something that they want to earn," Zorn said.

-- Boston Globe

Posted by: 4th | May 12, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Who Knew?

Dallas last won a playoff game after the 1996 season. The only teams (excluding the expansion Houston Texans) who have a longer playoff victory drought are Buffalo (1995), Cleveland (1994), Kansas City (1993), Detroit (1991) and Cincinnati (1990).

-- Rochester Democrat & Chronicle.

Posted by: 4th | May 12, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Trying to figure out how to explain the spike in productivity up til now.......

Posted by: Greg | May 12, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

thank goodness! i thought i was going to go insane

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 12, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

It appears we're back up and running?

I like the helmet thing. All about fire in the belly.

Maybe they should hand out one feather at at a time. So if you go back to the spear helmet you build your way up to a full spear.

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes I realize the last post is ripe and rife for doublee entrendrahs - let 'em rip.

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Here is one of those posts that will drive purists and anon purists crazy.

I read today they're making an updated version of Electric Company for 2009. Even though I'm fully 30 years out of their target age range I got really excited. . . sad but true.

Hhhhheeeeeyyyyy youuuuu guuuuuuyyysss!

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

anything to get that spear helmet back.

Posted by: stumped | May 12, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Sfskin - did you know you were using your 'outside' voice when you told us you got really excited about an updated Electric Company? Some things you should just keep to your self.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

We're gonna turn it on
We're gonna bring you the power
We're gonna light up the dark of night like the brightest day in a whole new way
We're gonna turn it on
We're gonna bring you the power
It's coming down the lines, strong as they can be through the courtesy of The Redskins Insider Blog
The Redskins Insider Blog
The Redskins Insider Blog

Posted by: dcsween | May 12, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm a single entendre guy myself.
I'd be AOK with a logo-less helmet with little spear stickers (kind of like the NFL-version of the Ohio State helmet ... or a Skins version of the Browns helmet with stickers).

Posted by: dcsween | May 12, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

We'll be upgrading Loseable Type to "small bits of paper" tonight. Please jot down any RI thoughts you have and toss them into a nearby circular container. We'll have them posted in no time...

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 12, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I prefer zero entendres, sween.

Please, I beg you, keep it simple.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I've revised my expectations of success. If three of the draft picks make the roster by the end of the season, I'm willing to call the draft a success (or, at least, more successful than last year, when it was 2 for 5 ... the year before that, Skins were 4 for 6! ... year before that, 2 for 6). At least if 3 guys make the roster, it will be exciting because it will be 3 ... instead of 2 or 4. [Do I give away too much about myself when I say a numeral is 'exciting'?]

Posted by: dcsween | May 12, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Anybody catch Romo doing his Jessica Simpson impersonation?

-.250

Good Lord, Man!! why would anybody on this blog want to catch Romo doing anything other than fumbling a snap, throwing a pick, or getting body slammed to the turf by three Redskins, simultaneously, together, at the same time?

Posted by: RedskinWillie | May 12, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Willie in the house!

Bring it.

Posted by: stumped | May 12, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

The Jessica Simpson impersonation? You mean when he fumbled the snap and failed to make into the endzone in the playoff game?

That Jessica Simpson impersonation?

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

sorry for quintuple post...was during the nadir of blog-mayhem.....

That Romo audio clip is priceless...what a rube....

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Aye Willie. Was sort of implying he's got no talent at anything. Alas, I've been off my game for a while. Need my moniker back...

- .250

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Willie-

Do one now about Donovan McNabb!

Here you go- I'll lob you one-

Hey guys- anybody see Donovan McNabb the other night on Dancing With the Stars?

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

you'd think after the blogsanity of today, we could get rewarded with a new post....sorta of sick of the Twerps post...

Oh well

anons drool
cHrIs LaRrY rulz...


Beantown, can you talk to Manny for me? He is starting to hurt my fantasy team....

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I thought the Chargers signed Crummey ... what happened to him there?

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"Revamped niners"? SMELLS LIKE 3-13 to me. All the better to Portis them with for a little foggy post Christmas cheer. Enjoy that LTD my man. Randy should be just fine and by the way, it's still Candlestick.

Your girlfriend rocks...

Posted by: Fletch76 | May 12, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

"revamped"

that's all i've heard about here in SF- is how isaac bruce is the answer and will be bringing the niners back to glory.

i think it's a little longer putt than that.

and, that they're considering having their third string QB actually challenge alex smith.

everybody be happy we have JC. we're in WAY better shape than many. and, none of the three potential niners QBs look at all like lionel richie.

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I thought the Chargers signed Crummey ... what happened to him there?

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 4:54 PM

I had thought the same thing, but if you go to the Chargers' site and squirrel down into both their press releases and their "transactions," they said it never happened. I think Big Media was all over some rumor re: Crummey in San Diego, but nothing ever crystallized there.

Posted by: dcsween | May 12, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

i hope crummey works out and gets some playing time.

you can already hear john madden with a mouthful of marbles talking about how "here's a guy- he's an offensive lineman, and his last name's crummey."

i like that.

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

The fields at Redskin Park are completely submerged under three feet of water, and none of the four defendants in the ST case will be facing the death penalty.

Posted by: Redskin Insider | May 12, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

... or Madden saying, "the Skins got Crummey, a local kid, as an undrafted rookie ... and now he's a starter for them ... I call that a true value ... and you can get true value too, at your local True Value Hardware store."

Posted by: dcsween | May 12, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

My name is John Madden and I am a turduckenaholic. Its been 3 hours sins I last downed eight pounds of meet made from three species of bird.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 12, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

i remember back in the 80s when madden could riff off of dave butz's helmet for a half hour.

that thing was all scarred to hell.

those were the good old days before turducken and when pat summerall was still drinking.

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Watching Tony Romo sing at Wrigley was like watching a guy who has never won a playoff game sing poorly.

If you're in Chicago, how do you not boo the hell out of that guy?

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | May 12, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

i remember back in the 80s when madden could riff off of dave butz's helmet for a half hour.

that thing was all scarred to hell.

those were the good old days before turducken and when pat summerall was still drinking.

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 5:28 PM

yup.....I still hads my teeth back in dem days

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

and ole willie still rose

Posted by: Anonymous | May 12, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Pat Sayjack, beg you pardon, Pat Summerall. Never had a drug problem, beg you pardon, drinking problem.

Posted by: Alex35332 | May 12, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

hilarious.

Posted by: dwdjmu | May 12, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Holy smokes does mother nature appear to be angry.
- Cyclone in Burma
- Tornadoes in SE USA
- 7.9 earthquake in China
- wildfires in Florida (drought in FLA!)
- rains and floods in DC

Guess we irked the old girl one too many times.

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

They've sold out of iphones online.

The Skins didn't sign an overpriced over the hill free agent.

RI has been relatively troll free today.

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

And let's not forget those raging winds in Philadelphia this morning. That was some rough biking weather. Sheesh.

Posted by: A displaced Skins fan | May 12, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

What is happening?

Should I be on the look out for the horsemen?

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Possibly. Let's just hope the weather doesn't usher in the dreaded inju. . .wait. I shouldn't go there.

Posted by: A displaced Skins fan | May 12, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Okay this is pretty funny - from an article a friend sent on Top 10 Interview Mistakes from cnn.com

No accounting for people's stupidity.

"Unfortunately, many job seekers are not only ignoring these tips, they're making mistakes that leave unforgettable impressions for all the wrong reasons. Here are 10 real-life examples from this year's survey:

• Candidate answered cell phone and asked the interviewer to leave her own office because it was a "private" conversation.

• Applicant told the interviewer he wouldn't be able to stay with the job long because he thought he might get an inheritance if his uncle died - and his uncle wasn't "looking too good."

• The job seeker asked the interviewer for a ride home after the interview.

• The applicant smelled his armpits on the way to the interview room.

• Candidate said she could not provide a writing sample because all of her writing had been for the CIA and it was "classified."

• Candidate told the interviewer he was fired for beating up his last boss.

• When the applicant was offered food before the interview, he declined saying he didn't want to line his stomach with grease before going out drinking.

• An applicant said she was a "people person" not a "numbers person" -- in her interview for an accounting position.

• During a phone interview the candidate flushed the toilet while talking to hiring manager.

• The applicant took out a hair brush and brushed her hair."

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Holy smokes does mother nature appear to be angry.
- Cyclone in Burma
- Tornadoes in SE USA
- 7.9 earthquake in China
- wildfires in Florida (drought in FLA!)
- rains and floods in DC

Guess we irked the old girl one too many times.
Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 5:41 PM

Don't forget the Chaiten volcano in Chile, dormant for 9000 years, spewing ash and noxious gas 8 miles into the air, poisoning streams and killing crops for miles around. And of course the playoff drought in Dallas.

Posted by: SMACK | May 12, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

-Canidate said he was fast.

Posted by: SMACK | May 12, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - right the volcano in the land of my mother. 9000 years and then kaboom. . . I realize in geologic time that's like a pause between sneezes but sheesh.

The playoff drought - well obviously that proves Mama Natura is a Skins fan.

Posted by: sfskin | May 12, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: chris Larry | May 12, 2008 9:41 AM


Posted by: Greg | May 12, 2008 3:01 PM

So what happened here?

1) Everyone took a five hour break?

2) Cindy deleted all the posts between 9:41 AM and 3:01 PM because they did not measure up to the high standards of RI blogation?

3) Chris Larry broke the blog and it took Greg five hours to fix it?

4) Old media can't do new media?

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 12, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Two words (familiar to you all): Loseable Type.
Yep, it broke AGAIN. Sorry 'bout that.

Posted by: Cindy | May 12, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy | May 12, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

- I hate to say this out loud but Nov 3 against the Steelers is an acceptable loss to me for political reasons. With the exception of 2004 when we lose our home game before election the incumbent party loses the WH. Unless 2004 flipped the luck in which case Go Skins!

Posted by: sfskin | May 11, 2008 12:05 AM

Also, Snyder is a Big Republican and the Steelers owner endorsed Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 2:35 AM | Report abuse

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