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Plackemeier Released/New Contracts For Carter and Randle El

The Redskins released punter Ryan Plackemeier today, according to a source. Plackemeier, who took over as punter when draft pick Durant Brooks sputtered, has one year remaining on his deal. Like Brooks, he placed near the bottom of the NFL in most punting categories.

The Redskins signed inexperienced punter Zac Atterberry earlier this offseason. Atterberry lost out to Plackemeier in a punting competition at Redskins Park when Brooks was released. The team has not been steady or settled at the punting position for years, save for Tom Tupa's excellent performance in 2004. Atterberry spent the 2008 offseason with Chicago, his only pro experience.

Also, DE Andre Carter and WR Randle El have new deals with the team, according to league sources, a move done to lower their 2009 cap costs (the Redskins entered this month between $5-$7 million over the projected salary cap). Both players had deals set to expire after 2012; their new contracts run through 2015 (not that it's likely either would still be here then).

Carter's new deal saves the team about $2.4 million in 2009, and lowers his case salary from $2 million to $1.5 million. Randle El's new deal saves $2 million in cap space for next season, and lowers his base salary from $4 million to $1.5 million according to sources.

The Redskins must comply with the cap by the start of the league year, Feb. 27, when the free agency period opens. They are likely to release at least one high priced veteran by then, with LB Marcus Washington and DE Jason Taylor prime candidates.

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 12, 2009; 4:10 PM ET
 
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Comments

Are you serious?? When is the ARE experiment going to end?

Ugh

Posted by: cb6671 | February 12, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I don't think I can take another year of Antwaan Randle El.. he's got to give up the punt returning duties.. can't watch that for another season, we need a real punt returner.

Posted by: rachel216 | February 12, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

This is just unbelievable. I'm sitting here trying to figure out how we could possibly get enough space to guy them and they get extended! Sure it lowers the cap this year, but its the same old story, push guaranteed money out into the future so that they cost more to get rid of later! Un -freaking - believable!

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 12, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Extending Carter? What not extend Jansen again? YUCK!!!!!!!!! Carter is a bust (for his pay grade) and the sooner we can part company with that contract, the better.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

that was supposed to be cut these guys


so angry I can't type!

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 12, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

well you can part company with that contract in 2015, haha. if we're making cap space, we better do something with it.

Posted by: mopp04 | February 12, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

OK, guys. Who is a bigger hack when it comes to REdskins reporting? JLa or Len Pasquerelli?

Pasquerelii wrote a bit on ESPN.com about the Skins attempts to keep DeAngelo Hall off the FA market. Check out what he wrote:

"A five-year veteran, Hall then played seven games with the Redskins, where he served as the No. 3 or No. 4 cornerback behind starters Shawn Springs and Carlos Rogers. The Redskins also have veteran Fred Smoot at cornerback.

Whether a similar role with Washington in 2009 appeals to Hall, or whether he seeks a starting job again, remains to be seen. Retaining Hall would provide the Redskins one of the league's deepest cornerback corps for 2009."

?!?*@*!?!*!@

Are you serious? Did this donkey investigate anything before he wrote this?

This is just wrong on so many levels. Like Hall ascending to the top of our depth chart, and starting multiple games for us; and the fact that we'd be signing him to pretty much be our future #1 CB.

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Where does the money go? Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this just stretch out the release fee until 2015, but whenever we release him, well have to pay whatever is left on the release fee for the subsequent years?

And 2015?????

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 12, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

posted on the last thread a long time ago, and not exactly news that pastarelli sucks

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 12, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

pfunk, yeah we mocked pastabelly the last post.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 12, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

As far as extending Carter/ARE, I'm just not surprised by anything with this organization.

The same conversation we are having today about Jansen (ie. needing to cut him, but being hamstrung by the cap implications), we are now going to be having about these guys in 2-3 years...not that either of them are very useful now...

Oh, well. I'm waiting for the update that tells us Jason Taylor got a raise and Shawn Springs got franchised.

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Randle El shouldn't return punts but he is a good #3 reciever Carter is fine WHEN THERE IS SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE who can get there as well..... We just need a real GM Cerrato is an Idiot

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | February 12, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

gotcha on the pasquerelli tip...I'm just getting to my computer today and getting caught up.

I just needed to make sure that Lenny got a good ripping, but I should have trusted that you guys took care of business...

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm The Truth, baby, and this news sucks!


does this mean ARE is gonna be here till like 2012 or 2013 at the LEAST?

My god, he shouldn't have been here in 2008!


This sucks, baby!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 12, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"What makes me cringe is that I'll bet Danny is going to plan around 2010 being uncapped.

I think a cap is a good thing for pro sports in general, and for the NFL is specific.

So if Danny plans on 2010 being uncapped, then I'd expect him to fight against a labor agreement in 2010 and I think that is not in the game's best interest. To me, its the wealthy owners (or owners of the wealthy teams) that have the greatest responsibility to look after the game's best interests. I just don't see Danny looking out for the greater good.

Posted by: zcezcest1"


ohhh wahhh wahhh I want it to be fair

to heCK with that, I want no cap and I want Danny to spend ONE BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR ON the team and I want 15 Superbowl victories in a row!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 12, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Whats next, extending Portis to 2020...ARE sucks and so does Carter. We are going to be no better in 2009.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 12, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Wait, Jasno, how much money are these two guys getting up front? Lowering their salaries next year is GREAT. But if they're getting it all in front end money, not so great. And, what happens if we cut them next year in an uncapped year? It would be nice if you'd just lay out the basic facts.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 12, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow, can everyone back off the ledge for just a second? Unless you're a salary cap expert with knowledge of all of the details of the new deals that were signed, I don't think you're qualified to pontificate on the salary cap and/or roster ramifications of this move over the next several years. For all we know from this "report," this could end up being a good move cap-wise. As far as evaluating this move from a player personnel standpoint, this really means nothing more than you can expect both players to be on the 2009 roster, and I had not heard anyone really expect otherwise. These moves were made to get us under the cap prior to the 2/27 deadline, so why don't we all take a deep breath, get more information, then wait and see what happens. Or of course you could follow the "guest" blogger's advice from a couple of weeks ago and boycott everything Redskins if you don't like it, and leave rooting for the team to us real fans.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 12, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Randel El was going to be here next season no matter what because it would have cost too much to cut him but by extending him they have only delayed the pain. Skins must definitely be counting on an uncapped year.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 12, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Truth, Danny isn't even the richest owner in the division ... both dal and nyg are getting new stadiums and philly just did. The jints even get to split the rent with the jets.

Uncapped doesn't make the Spaghetti Gang (or jerruh for that matter)any smarter.

As for the cap being 'fair' -- that's not why its good for the league.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"the Redskins entered this month between $5-$7 million over the projected salary cap"

3 word solution: release Jason Taylor

Problem solved

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

CPRun -

We have a basis for our anger. This is what they do every year and the reason we're stuck with Jon Jansen, Randy Thomas and Shawn Springs. They guarantee more money up front, spread it out over several years and lower the base salary, which in turn increases the release hit for the next 4 years. Oye.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 12, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

What do we gain (other than cap space) cutting Plackmeier now? Are there other teams out there without a punter on their roster today? You would think that they would at least bring a couple of guys into the OTAs and minicamp before pulling the trigger on this.

Posted by: skipper7 | February 12, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to be a cap expert to know that the only way their cap number goes down through an extension is if they got new signing bonuses to prorate over the longer period.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 12, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

What do we gain (other than cap space) cutting Plackmeier now?

Posted by: skipper7

Good point

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference in letting Plackemier go now? We all wanted the Skins to sign a better free agent punter and now they will.

The point was probably to free up 535K of cap space prior to Feb 27th. The Skins have to rework several contracts and release players before that date to free up additional cap space.

Posted by: siris | February 12, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

free up cap space? Release Jason Taylor. Duh.

Actually, this speaks to the Skins trying to win in 2009. Taylor has got 1 year left on his huge contract, it costs nothing to release him.

No brainer?

Nope, the Skins extend two already overpaid guys to lower the cap.

The Spaghetti Gang is delusional

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

pastabelly or JLC a bigger hack??? hmmmmm a question for the ages....

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 12, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

3 word solution: release Jason Taylor

Problem solved

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 4:57 PM

Zeke, That's not even close to a solution. It's part of a solution, but it's not a solution. We need to be way below the salary cap if we're going to sign anyone in free agency.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 12, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Taylor won't have a freak calf injury this year and can play up to his potential after a year in the system...

He's already signed for next year -- if he's not in the Skins plans, then he potentially could be worth more in a trade vs. an outright release...

Posted by: siris | February 12, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

TE ... the Skins need to get under cap by Feb 28. Releasing Taylor instantly accomplishes this.

If the Skins want to go after free agents, yes, they will need to do some restructuring in all likelihood (depends on who else they trade or release). But to extend guys who aren't earning their paycheck ... that is just lunacy.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Prediction - The skins big splash in 2009 FA will be Shane Lechler P from Oakland for a gazillion dollars.

Posted by: skinswest | February 12, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

he (Taylor) potentially could be worth more in a trade vs. an outright release...

Posted by: siris | February 12, 2009 5:39 PM


That's a longshot. Taylor is essentially a free agent right now. No way the Skins keep him at $8million. So the options are to restructure and keep him, restructure and trade him or simply release him. I'm guessing the Skins are letting Taylor's agent look at a sign/trade combo -- salvage something for him. But if I'm Taylor, I prefer to get cut and have all my options open, not just the ones the Skins offer.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

We have the worst Front Office in Football. By far the Worst GM now that Millen is gone from detroit. No Question the Worst Owner. Please Danny Boy, SELL the TEAM and stay on your fantasy ride at SIX FLAGS!

Posted by: wspasp | February 12, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse


+++I'm the Truth, Baby

This sucks, baby!

Posted by: TheTruth11+++

It's tough to be tragically hip when you're channeling Telly Savalas.

Posted by: TheCork | February 12, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

But to extend guys who aren't earning their paycheck ... that is just lunacy.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 5:40 PM

Given the poor, incomplete reporting by Jasno it's not clear whether this is lunacy or brilliant. But both of these guys would be on the team next year, anyway, and restructuring/extending their contracts may be sensible depending on what happens with them in the uncapped year.

Besides, why would Vinny trade Jason Taylor? Isn't he still trying to trade him back to Miami so he can finish his career as a Dolphin or something like that?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 12, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9112052/NFL-back-to-L.A.?-City-approves-stadium-plan

If this goes through any bets on which team moves. Early picks would by Jacksonville, SD, NO, Vikings.

Or maybe Snyder's plan is to screw up the skins so much that he can move them to LA to be closer to Tom and Katie. j/k sorta.

Posted by: skinswest | February 12, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

he (Taylor) potentially could be worth more in a trade vs. an outright release...

Posted by: siris | February 12, 2009 5:39 PM

There is no way in heaven that the 'Skins can get anything from anyone for Taylor in a trade. No one will pay $8 million for him PLUS give up a pick. 'Skins will cut him eventually and he'll sign as a FA for $2 million, maybe with Miami.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 12, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I just checked out SKIPPY's BLOG..

http://askskippy.blogspot.com/2009/02/skippy-sez-snyder-done-does-it-again.html

He has BREAKING NEWS about Snyder....

Skippy Sez: Snyder Done Does It Again


Skippy thinks that Don Snyder, the owner and chef of the Washington Redscums will dance with the one who brang him as soon as NFL Free Allegory starts February 27th-ish.

Remember last year when the Redscums traded two picks (nose and water) to the Miami Dolphins, (formerly the Renault Dauphines)? Huh? Huh?

In exchange for those toothpicks, the Maroon and Puce only received the runner-oops from the last “Dancing with the Stars” TV show.

That prayer, Defensive End Jasmine Taylor, quickly began injuring his extremities. First he had Planter’s Fascitititititis, which means your foot hurts. Then he hurt his knee. How? Fried. No, wait, wrong joke. Actually, Taylor’s knee got badly hyper-extenuated when he arrived so late trying to make a tackle, the next play had already started.

Next Taylor completed the Hat Truck of injuries when his calf got Compartmentilization Sitdown. That’s when a player drives himself to the hospital in the middle of the night to garner sympathy for himself but not, ironically, for Jennifer Garner, who is smokin’ hot.

Here’s what Skippy thinks. (If he’s wrong, blame the nascent science of Plate Tectonics.) See, Don Snyder has been out of the sportlight spurtlight for years. Well, except to remind us now and then that he can’t draft or hire someone who can, can’t win, can’t trade, and can’t run an amusement park which rises bold and stark while kids huddle on the beach in a mist.

Also, he picked the wrong Scientologist as his movie buddy.

So Skippy thuswise stinks Synder will look to make a major splatdown by trading away the farm for extensive Free Agencies who will disappoint fans or disappear or both. Turns out getting Taylor in time to imnitate the fading career of Bruce Smith was just a warmup.

Look for Snyder to trade his #1 pick this year and next year for a Baltimore Oriole linebacker, plus spend $80 million more for Alan Haynseworth, defensive tickle of the Tittans or defensive end Julius Caesar of the Carolina Pinchers.

Whichever one they get will eat himself out of horse and home and/or plan a second career as an Hollywood Action Herpes. Skippy believes in the old Scottish expression "Stay the Gorse" and build threw the daft.

Posted by: TheCork | February 12, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"Stay the Gorse" and build threw the daft."

Now that's an applicable motto if ever I saw one. Draft a WR at #13 anyone?

Posted by: skinswest | February 12, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

WHY is everyone upset???

They are all going to be cut in the uncapped year next year.

No problem. Great move........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 12, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

TE -- there's an outside shot that the Skins could arrange a trade with a contract to Taylor's liking with another team.

Why would Taylor do this? Because he gets a spot sooner rather than later. The longer the Skins hold him, the fewer options Taylor might have.

As for signing ARE and Carter to longer contracts ... the assumption that 2010 is uncapped is just that ... an assumption. If Danny and Vinny get it wrong, and that's their track record, they've screwed themselves.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

ARE better provide a spark at the wildcat formation, or as a 3/4th WR this year! He is done as a return man IMO.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | February 12, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

oops, 3rd or 4th WR.......

Posted by: lsskinsfan | February 12, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow, can everyone back off the ledge for just a second? Unless you're a salary cap expert with knowledge of all of the details of the new deals that were signed, I don't think you're qualified to pontificate on the salary cap and/or roster ramifications of this move over the next several years.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 12, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Where the heck have you been the past couple years?

We don't need to be "cap experts" (by the way, didn't Snyder fire his "cap guy" in this recent employee purge?).

We've been watching this same story play out every year. Go to the veterans. Restructure their contracts to extend years and convert salary to bonuses.

It helps our cap for the following year, but keeps us on the hook in the long run for having to eat the money all at once if we cut them. If they stay on the roster and play well - fine. No problem; it minimizes our year to year cap number. But if their skills deteriorate due to age/injury, then we are screwed.

And how has that strategy worked out for us so far?

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

these guys came here for the money only way too much money the only way to get under the cap is to extend.
the cap hit would be big releasing them

Posted by: mudman220 | February 12, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Elgin Baylor, the former Los Angeles Clippers general manager who left the team last fall after 22 years, has sued the franchise, the NBA and team owner Donald Sterling alleging employment discrimination.

He alleges that he was underpaid during his tenure with the team and then fired because of his age and race.

He had more seasons below .300 winning % than over .500 (7 to 2!!)

20 years of failure -- how he kept his job is beyond me -- and all of a sudden he's the victim of discrimination!!

What a jerk.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I realize it's not going to happen with Snyder, but the Redskins need to blow this thing up and start over again.

To improve the team is going to have to do more than jettison the punter and look to release Marcus Washington.

There are a SLEW of older players on this team that need to be given their walking papers in the offseason.

This team needs a top 5 pick next year to help in rebuilding by allowing us to land that 'special' pass rusher, dominant defensive tackle or franchise OT.

And then the team needs to make smart football decisions for another 1-2 offseasons and perhaps the team can once again contend in the East.

But one thing is for sure.

Doing things in piece-meal fashion the way they are doing it is only going to increase the DURATION of the pain to be gone through.

Posted by: leopard09 | February 12, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

P1funk
He hired the 2nd in command cap guy. And it will be the Jags that move to LA

Posted by: alex35332 | February 12, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, alex. I assume you mean "fired".

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Even if 2010 is uncapped, don't we still have to pay the cap hits for cutting players? Wont this still hurt us somehow?

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 12, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

these guys came here for the money only way too much money the only way to get under the cap is to extend.
the cap hit would be big releasing them

Posted by: mudman220 | February 12, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

...and by extending them we keep ourselves in this same predicament for an extra 3 years.

We could get ourselves 7 million under the cap by releasing one Jason Taylor. PLain and simple. He has no business being on this team at his age and with what he brings. It was a fine idea at the start, and I applauded the move when we brought him in. But he's not a fit for Blache's play-the-run-first mentality on the D-line, and at this stage of his career he cannot get into the groove of being a 3rd down spot-guy. Nor does $8mill justify that role.

The only way he proves his worth is if he can make some kind of miraculous transition to OLB and tear it up with a ProBowl performance blitzing the QB and giving us a stop-gap measure while we figure out a long-term replacement for Marcus W.

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Rypien - No. There will be no cap, therefore there will be no cap hit.

So it was written, so it shall be done..........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 12, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

And for those who think we might see an "uncapped" year, there is NO WAY it happens.

The only owners that benefit are the handful of filthy rich big-market franchises. There is no way that the Ralph Wilsons of the league would let the Dan Snyders of the league run wild in an uncapped year.

Not to mention that cleaning up the aftermath of an "uncapped" year would be messy and painful. Too much of a headache for anyone in their right mind to allow and they all know it.

Folks will use the "threat" or "chip" of an uncapped year to leverage position on a new CBA, but that game of chicken will NEVER result in a head-on crash.

Kind of like Cold War nuclear brinksmanship - everyone knows that no one really wants to launch the nukes...but its nice to have them when you are at the negotiating table.

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

There is no cap for 2010 RIGHT NOW.... but I dont think its set in stone that there WONT be one.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 12, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

2010 Uncapped year is already in play.

The Union has no leader. Negetiations can not begin.

So, we are gaureenteed atleast one uncapped year where all old players with high salaries will be dumped if they don't renegotiate their contracts.

And JT55 will be on the team next year......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 12, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

For those who may be against signing D'Angelo Hall, think about this...is he better than Carlos Rogers? Is he the best corner on the team. He may not be better than Springs, but he's played more games and he had five picks in how many games? How many did Rogers have?

I say sign him...he's 25, fast, can catch...I say give him a deal, but don't break the bank.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 12, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins released punter Ryan Plackemeier today, according to a source. Plackemeier, who took over as punter when draft pick Durant Brooks sputtered, has one year remaining on his deal. Like Brooks, he placed near the bottom of the NFL in most punting categories.

The Redskins signed inexperienced punter Zac Atterberry earlier this offseason. Atterberry lost out to Plackemeier in a punting competition at Redskins Park when Brooks was released. The team has not been steady or settled at the punting position for years, save for Tom Tupa's excellent performance in 2004. Atterberry spent the 2008 offseason with Chicago, his only pro experience.


THIS MAKES NO SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lets cut someone who placed at the bottom ( not playing a full season mind you) who has experience and replace him with someone who lost a punting challenge to him? WTF!!!!!!! If this type of mantality continues throughout the offseason....Im at a loss for words.

Posted by: erleach | February 12, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

2010 in play only means that the clock is ticking. Nothing more.

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I say sign him...he's 25, fast, can catch...I say give him a deal, but don't break the bank.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 12, 2009 7:56 PM
==========================================
Makes sense to me. Let's see what Sniderrato does.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 12, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

In the end its got be all about the OL this year. Griffin looks like he may be the one. Resigning Jensen makes no sense at all. He is a way too highly paid backup at this point. He's a guy they are going to let expire as quickly as possible.

But cheer up. The Nats made a move. Maybe with Dunn and perhaps Orlando Hudson they may do something good this year. They have a lot of potential that may be realized earlier rather than later.

Posted by: periculum | February 12, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

No surprise here. For all of Dan's faults he is loyal to his players. Every year, we think if you just cut this guy or these guys the cap situation will be solved only to see restructed deals that 'solve' the season's cap. When was the last time the 'skins cut a player in February to get under the cap? This is the year it is likely to happen but it'll likely be one or two, not all the guys the blog has tried to rid for years (Daniels, Springs, Washington, Griffin, Thrash).

Posted by: bangkokben | February 12, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Resinging ARE?
I don't like to point out individual players as ones we need to expend...

but man, isn't Vinny showing he doesn't know what he is doing?
Resign ARE?
Why not cut him? All that money he has been making, and what have the Skins gotten in return?

I'm sorry.
I see this as not merely unwise, but altogether stupid!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 12, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Washington, Springs, ARE, Thrash, should all be cut!

Then if any of them wants to end their career here bad enough they can gladly return for a smaller price tag.

Why can't Vinny see he and the Skins actually have the leverage?
And they don't even know it!!!

We need someone in the FO w/ some savvy.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 12, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

This post should be titled "Let's put off for 2012 what we won't do today."

Boy, I'm glad it's not my money that's being burned on guys whose lack of living up to the old contract proved I already wasted it.

The move points out what Moe blogged earlier today: that the FO thinks it can solve its talent issues by milking the guys already on the roster.

The failed draft class of '08: they'll be up and ready to underperform in '09--nothing like consistent inconsistency.

Ya hate (insert underachieving Redskin player's name)? Get used to him, 'cause he ain't going nowhere.

And why worry about carrying dead contracts? Danny will be paying for ARE and A. Carter during the same time Prez Bam-Bam will be out hawking Obama '12 bumper stickers to anyone whose car hasn't been repossessed.

This means, again, no fancy-pancy clever FA moves, no slick-willie draft day trades, and, most importantly, no heliocopter flights that bring back some muscled bound guy whose best years went down with the same team that drafted him.

The last season will be next season, only the players, like the results, will be the same.

You heard it here first....and you'll be hearing about it again in 2012.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 12, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and this is the same punter that during the season we were repeatedly told by Coach Z "he is doing a fine job".

Well apparently, they think so much of his punting he is not even going to get to come to camp to compete for a job.

What did we cut Brooks for in the first place?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 12, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Figured i'd pass on some Redskins news...since the blog seems to always be behind....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3902683

Posted by: leevi98 | February 12, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

plfunk

'...We've been watching this same story play out every year. Restructure contracts...It helps our cap for the following year, but keeps us on the hook in the long run...then we are screwed.

And how has that strategy worked out for us so far?

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 6:34 PM


You deserve a medal for this.

Even Plackenmeyer--a guy who presently is flying back to where ever it is that people named plackenmeyer come from--agrees with your assessment of the curious behaviors of the wankers who run the Redskins.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 12, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

RedksinRay

Cut Thrash? Hmmm, how about tradiing Thrash for a 7th round pick. He still performs on teams. I think a team like Detroit, which has a stud WR in search of a role model, could use character WR ... and they might part with a 7th round pick in 2010 to get it. Plus Thrash is inexpensive.

ARE is a good #3 WR, not so much a #2. He's overpriced for that, but he's producing decent numbers and is still a threat to throw the ball. No way he belongs on punt returns, though.

Springs is a situational cut. Depends on other factors and how those chips fall.

Washington, yeah, its time. He's gone.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 12, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey Mistamoe,

That was one good post....
I am so frustrated why we don't cut the dead wood?
prune the tree when it is no longer bearing fruit!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 12, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Three probowl WR's looking for trades. I bet you can guess who they are.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 12, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I think some are a bit harsh on ARE. He's not a #2 but a viable threat at #3. Also, some are a bit harsh on the FO. You can't cut ALL the veterans and I wouldn't start with ARE.

The real problem with the Skins is they don't play young players on offense consistently....Look at the defense, we play ALL our players...rookies, vets...and we're still in the top 10.

Let the Joe Gibbs philosophy go and play the youngbucks

Agree or disagree?

Posted by: rickyroge | February 12, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

everyone says releasing jason taylor fixes everything. You guys r wrong one 8 million dollar contract doesnt fix all that has gone wrong over the years.are and carter show at least a little that they are a team. we wasted too much money on players out for themselves like the portis's of the world. I dont like extending the contracts of are and carter but we wasted a lot more cap space on players that dont give a damn

Posted by: mudman220 | February 12, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Also, some are a bit harsh on the FO. You can't cut ALL the veterans and I wouldn't start with ARE.
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Agree or disagree?

Posted by: rickyroge | February 12, 2009 9:04 PM
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Agree: You can't cut ALL the veterans.

Disagree: This front office deserves all the abuse they get, and more.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 12, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

2010 in play only means that the clock is ticking. Nothing more.

Posted by: p1funk | February 12, 2009 8:08 PM

I take it you don't have NFL Network. Adam Schefter already reported it and so did Florio.

2010 UNcapped is already in effect because there are no cap rules that kick in to the last capped year that begins in 2 weeks.

They both reported that the players and owners are willing to go into atleast one uncapped year. After that, the owners will possibly lock out the players if nothing gets done...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 12, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Plackemeier has WAY to slow a motion and was just waiting to get blocked!! They will find an experienced punter to fill the role.
Everyone who knows the game knew that the Skins were going to make these moves!! It only makes sense!!! My guess is that Washington will be let go, they will attempt to trade Rogers, they will restructure the contracts of Landry, Samuels and Moss.
Regarding the "Uncapped" ramifications, it is problematic for the Skins due to the "30% Rule". The Skins are better off with a new CBA. For those thinking that an uncapped year means "free and clear" you are mistaken!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | February 12, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

It should have read 'are new cap rules that kick in to the last capped year'

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 12, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the "Uncapped" ramifications, it is problematic for the Skins due to the "30% Rule". The Skins are better off with a new CBA. For those thinking that an uncapped year means "free and clear" you are mistaken!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | February 12, 2009 9:14 PM |

The Uncapped year and the 30% rule are mutually exclusive. You can cut who ever you want. You just can't sign whoever you want (which depends on players from your team signing with another team). Which is why the next 2 drafts will be important........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 12, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Here's Sheriff SJKhole.

Thank teh FSM that Sheriff Leon Lott is saving us all from the commie-terror-pothead-fascists-Olympic medalists (and such as).
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 12, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

The Uncapped year and the 30% rule are mutually exclusive. You can cut who ever you want. You just can't sign whoever you want (which depends on players from your team signing with another team). Which is why the next 2 drafts will be important........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 12, 2009 9:28 PM

But it effects the contracts of players who sign this year. Just because you "can" cut a player doesn't mean that it helps the team!! There are a number of players whose contracts might not fit under the 30% rule.

Posted by: dkidwell61 | February 12, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 13, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

as usual, JLC reports the half of the story that drives his agenda and not the whole tale; it has now been reported by several media outlets that Cater and ARE both took PAY CUTS in their new deals. All of you little lemmings on JLC's sack should stop relying on him as the gospel for Redksins info. Ever since his "source" Louis Riddick was fired, JLC has sunk to new levels in his desperation for negative spin on the Skins.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 13, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

i say we try to draft CJ SPILLER the fast running back from clemson

Posted by: lilchenzo26 | February 13, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

VINNY C-I-DON'T-NO IS A IDIOT; A BONEFIDE
IDIOT. DO US A FAVOR VINNY...TAKE DANNY BOY WITH YOU AND DON'T BE MAD,JUST GO AWAY, YOU ##@@@ IDIOT!!!

Posted by: joe12341 | February 15, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

we wasted too much money on players out for themselves like the portis's of the world. I dont like extending the contracts of are and carter but we wasted a lot more cap space on players that dont give a damn

Posted by: mudman220

Really? 342 carries combined with a ridiculous about of effort blocking in the backfield makes Portis a selfish player? I truly don't care about most off-field issues as long as a player doesn't act like TO or Burress. As a matter of fact, sometimes it's good to see a guy with personality. Having Choo-Choo the dance instructor in the locker room can be a good thing when times are tough.

Posted by: bairta | February 16, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

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