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Poll: What's the biggest distraction?

Perhaps Jason Campbell best described this season -- which now has only one game left: "This whole year has always been something," he said. "You know, it's always been something."

Rick Maese writes that Sunday night's 17-0 loss to the Dallas Cowboys -- the first time since 2003 the Redskins were shut out at home -- managed to sum up all of the team's myriad issues in four succinct, painful quarters of football, said cornerback Carlos Rogers.

"We're having so many problems: offense, defense, stuff happens off the field, players, the coach," Rogers said. "There's just been so much stuff going on this season."

From your perspective, what has been the main distraction? Tell us about it.


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By washingtonpost.com Sports Editor  |  December 28, 2009; 9:41 AM ET
 
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F. All of the above

Posted by: hbu_dog | December 28, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

The main problem is we have been playing the wrong QB.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 28, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I am sick of this team, there is always some type of distraction with this team. why is that? i know part of the answer, we do not have NFL players, we have soap opera actors. how many will be playing in dancing with the stars this season?

Posted by: Skins2 | December 28, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

As of right now, we have the #5 pick. We have the tiebreaker over the Browns by ONE game (our opponents are 120-120, theirs are 121-119).

Obviously that could all change depending on who wins next week, and what we, Clev, KC, and TB do.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 28, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

bean

"..JC should have seen this, and recognized it.."


Thing is, how much time was left on the playclock?

The corner/safety had the blitz timed out very well.

Maybe the cowboys knew that when the skins went into an empty set, they'd never audible out of whatever play they'd call.

Collingsworth missed that part of it.

Should Campbell have taken a 'delay' penalty to avoid the pressure/sack?

Maybe he saw the blitz, but knew he couldn't change to a more appropriate play as he's not allowed to audible.

Things are more complicated that Collingsworth made them out to be.

The simplest analysis is that the skins didn't have the running game/protection/audible system to make the cowboys play differently all night long.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

F. All of the above

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 28, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it is just me but I think when people blame the losing season on injuries we are giving the FO a pass on their poor job. Sometimes injuries are the reason but of our "key players" the only shock was Cooley.

Posted by: NFeKPo | December 28, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Maybe he saw the blitz, but knew he couldn't change to a more appropriate play as he's not allowed to audible.

Things are more complicated that Collingsworth made them out to be.

The simplest analysis is that the skins didn't have the running game/protection/audible system to make the cowboys play differently all night long.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse
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As I pointed out, that particular play was an empty backfield, so it's not like JC could audible protection to that side or anything. Again, JC set up well before the blitz got there, so he obviously expected someone on the opposite side to be making a break.

The hesitation could have been his fault, but the play would have still resulted in an incomplete pass and JC in the turf.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

F. LACK OF SHORING UP THE OFFENSIVE LINE.

Posted by: watchingfromasia | December 28, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

nfek, I don't know how you can't say that injuries played a huge role in this season...Cooley, Samuels, Thomas, Horton, Portis...just to name a few...so 4 out of your 11 offensive starters get hurt...Its not as easy to just discount it...you can't do that...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I hope Snyder heard Collinsworth say bringing in Haynesworth and not bringing in O-line help was a gamble that 'came up snake eyes'. I'm only glad that the rat responsible for that gamble has been shown the door.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

As of right now, we have the #5 pick. We have the tiebreaker over the Browns by ONE game (our opponents are 120-120, theirs are 121-119).

Obviously that could all change depending on who wins next week, and what we, Clev, KC, and TB do.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 28, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse
Thanks for that tidbit, Ryp.

Before we even think about the draft, tho, we should see some action this week. We should put both BMW and 37 on IR, and sign the best 2 OL we can from the practice squads around the league to our 53-man roster. That way we would have the entire off-season to evaluate those 2 linemen.

Posted by: frediefritz | December 28, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

red, i think losable type ate my reply. there is a reason why jc doesn't have certain freedoms like audibling. and that is that coaches like joe gibbs (3 SB ring), saunders (1 SB ring), zorny (1 SB appearance as a coach to a QB that has had a couple of good seasons) think jc sucks. more appropriately they do not trust him.

who are we, as fans to disagree with all three of these coaches?

Posted by: dealer1


Fair enough. Zorn doesn't trust Campbell to audible into the correct play...

But,

If there isn't any trust, then how in the hell do they expect to be successful?

The Redskins are friggin "jokes-on-us", "commedy central", and the "laugh factory" all rolled into one.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME:

JASON CAMPBELL ISN'T ALLOWED TO AUDIBLE BECAUSE JIM ZORN SAID THAT HE ISN'T ALLOWED TO.

I think Campbell's bad play comes from:

1)The guy that is coaching him, Jim Zorn

2)The playcaller for the most part of the last two season, Jim Zorn

3) The front office inability to bring in a real head coach, and their ass-backwards way of going about the hiring process once Gibbs stepped down which falls at the feet of Snyder, Cerrato, or both.

4) The Redskins unwillingness to put a quality starting offensive line in front of Campbell. This falls on Cerrato, Snyder, or both.

5) Jason Campbell, himself.

Again, not saying Jason Campbell is "the one" (although I think many expect Campbell to be like P. Manning, Brees, and Brady), but dude has been put in a situation to fail.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Red. It's easy to just throw the majority of the blame on JC, or to view him in an "all or nothing" lense -- i.e. either he plays like Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, etc. or he sucks.

Anyway, the knee-jerk reaction of us fans is hilarious. JC17 throws for like 350 against the Saints, and all I read is "he's really shown me something, let's keep him for another year," or "JC looks like maybe he is turning the corner!" or "He's not the problem, he's a good QB."

Two weeks later, he struggles, and now most are saying "No progress, he's not the answer...just a career backup," etc.

Posted by: mattylight | December 28, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Same old same old...OL killed us last night, but I dont think the play calling helped either. With all the pressure they brought up the middle, the sides, etc...where were the draw plays to use their speed against them, shuffle pass would be nice, instead we get the same crap WR screen that everyone knows is coming.

Rabach sucks, watched him get tossed around and blown back repeatedly, just doesnt seem strong enough.

The only thing I loved watching was the 4th and 1, AH is a beast when he wants to be. JC went back to looking scared, but sh1t the DL was on his chest before he took a step back, granted he did make mistakes, but this team looks like they just want the season to end...

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 28, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

to sum up jc controversy:

camp 1:
there's a group that says we've seen enough after 5 years.

camp 2:
the other group says hold on not so fast and has more excuses for his performance. we need more evidence. another year or two with another coach (that would be his 4th coach).

i'm good at reading the tea leaves and i'm look into the future and seeing jc's performance not improve and camp 2 bringing up the fact that he's had 4 coaches and 10 different offensive systems to learn and he needs consistency to develop.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 28, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Inexcuseable. Unforgiveable.

As many as we can get rid of.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

nfek, I don't know how you can't say that injuries played a huge role in this season...Cooley, Samuels, Thomas, Horton, Portis...just to name a few...so 4 out of your 11 offensive starters get hurt...Its not as easy to just discount it...you can't do that...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse
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Samuels, Thomas, and Portis all have recent injury history and all are old by NFL standards. That's two strikes, and even losing all 3 was bad luck, the only viable back-up was Betts, who was, say it with me, old by NFL standards and had a recent injury history. A better FO would have recognized this.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Before we even think about the draft, tho, we should see some action this week. We should put both BMW and 37 on IR, and sign the best 2 OL we can from the practice squads around the league to our 53-man roster. That way we would have the entire off-season to evaluate those 2 linemen.

Posted by: frediefritz | December 28, 2009 10:10 AM


AGREED!

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 28, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

And that was his new hit, "Slave To The Amoeba", featuring Worm Medicine...Just remember, kids, the Venus Nuclear Civil War ignited their forlorn atmosphere and wiped out all life on that planet- an H-Bomb cluster over, say, Redskins Park, would spread a Dresden Firestorm over the planet in less than 10 seconds...These two foot long genetically engineered french fries will make good firewood though, for Dr. Strangelove and crew in the 2 mile deep bomb shelters, so enjoy your beer and brats, plaster your bedroom wall with STD closeups and keep a smile on your face, for "Divided We Fall", how 'bout them Cowboys..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it is just me but I think when people blame the losing season on injuries we are giving the FO a pass on their poor job. Sometimes injuries are the reason but of our "key players" the only shock was Cooley.

Posted by: NFeKPo | December 28, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I understand your point, NFeKPo. A good bit of the blame for this season's results ca be directly blamed on the FO, and their refusal to draft a top OT.

However, I still feel that the most disruptive cause of the 4-11 record was the significant injuries to our best playmakers...Samuels, Cooley, CP, and the deterioration of the OL.

Posted by: frediefritz | December 28, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

G. Dan Snyder

Posted by: Sports_Guru | December 28, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

People STOP IT JC has started 31 games I think we have seen enough

Posted by: BenchCampbell | December 28, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

i'm good at reading the tea leaves and i'm look into the future and seeing jc's performance not improve and camp 2 bringing up the fact that he's had 4 coaches and 10 different offensive systems to learn and he needs consistency to develop.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 28, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, you're right. That stability thing is overrated. I mean, look at Peyton Manning. Had a HOF Head Coach in Tony Dungy for like 8 seasons, and has had the same offensive coordinator forever. Then Dungy retires, and they promote from within, rather than overhauling the coaching staff and bringing in a new system.

Granted Manning is much, much more talented than JC, but come on...stability in an organization is huge.

Posted by: mattylight | December 28, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

whateves...bring in new regime....then we'll know which of these players are posers...

Posted by: chrislarry | December 28, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

A quick congrats to the Redskins O-line for letting up more sacks this season than last year with one game left to go.... oh wait, we dont get a point for every sack we give up? DAMN

Posted by: alex35332 | December 28, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I just red Boswell's call'em about the Skinz suckhood and it's like he just red some of the posts maid earlier hear on RI and cut and pasted away. No focus, no discipline, no team identity, no defined roles, New Agey gestalt, etc. Said hear many xs. In retrospect, when Zorn uttered that "maroon and black" remark at the outset of his DC rain you new his fate was seeled. The remark is profetic of every aspect of what was to go wrong.

Posted by: TubularBells | December 28, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

The most telling stat was the one that showed the Skins offense throwing only one pass for more than 10 yards down field.

Broken OL or not -- Campbell is not playing very well at all -- Collins came in last week and promptly completed 3 straight long passes behind the same OL.

Posted by: siris | December 28, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

The biggest distraction?

LOSING.

I for one am glad that some guys are frustrated and PO'ed. Like AH, Hall, etc. What's going on should stick in the craw of every guy who wants to win. If somebody on the Redskins is "medium" they should be fired/cut/folded/spindled/mutilated.

"Every time you lose, you die a little bit inside."

What the Redskins need to do is spend the next couple of years building the Oline.

Look at the NYJ: their OL is full of first-round picks.

RT - Woody - 17th overall by NWE
RG - Moore - undrafted FE
C - Mangold - 26th overall by NYJ
LG - Faneca - 26th overall by PIT
LT - Ferguson - 4th overall by NYJ

A nice mix of FE and draft picks, with one diamond in the rough. Compare WAS, as planned:

RT - Heyer - undrafted FE
RG - Dockery - 3rd round by WAS
C - Rabach - 3rd round by BAL
LG - Thomas - 2nd round by NYJ
LT - Samuels - 1st round by WAS


Now, they did pick up two former 1st rounders via FE, Jones and BMW. But there's a reason they were FE during the year.

Anyway the NYJ have a solid OL, a good running game, and a DREADFUL rookie QB. And are in the playoff hunt.

The lesson seems obvious: get a quality Oline and you can win with an average QB. This also was the formula under Gibbs I.

Why don't more teams do this?

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 28, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I am interested to see if Bruce Allen will really clean house all the way around, coaches and players.

I would like to see D. Hall go, if at all possible is he just afraid of tackling or what...you are willing to take on Jacobs in a fight, but you dont want to stick your shoulder in and tackle??

On TV, could not see the player, but was he the one that whiffed on Witten for that 70 yard play? Was Orakpo hurt, we saw alot of Wilson last night?

Hail Skins, but god to be shutout by Cowgirls, F that.

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 28, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell will be traded for picks, and go to a team with some actual leadership and intelligence and prove to be a solid QB for the next few years.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 28, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Just heard from my wife, who saw our plumber looking at new TV's at WalMart, who said it was just reported on TV that Bill Cowher was interviewed by the Skins for the HC position, such as...

Posted by: frediefritz | December 28, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, you're right. That stability thing is overrated. I mean, look at Peyton Manning. Had a HOF Head Coach in Tony Dungy for like 8 seasons, and has had the same offensive coordinator forever. Then Dungy retires, and they promote from within, rather than overhauling the coaching staff and bringing in a new system.

Granted Manning is much, much more talented than JC, but come on...stability in an organization is huge.

Posted by: mattylight | December 28, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse
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It's amazing that when the Patriots, Steelers, or Colts undergo change, the organization looks for ways to stay the same. Same playing style, drafting style, etc.

I hope Snyder was listening when Collinsworth said the Skins went from power football to spread (Spurrier) back to power to West Coast. Looking at our competition in just the NFC East, they are all pretty much using the same styles as they were when Snyder took over... It's a valid point

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, you're right. That stability thing is overrated. I mean, look at Peyton Manning. Had a HOF Head Coach in Tony Dungy for like 8 seasons, and has had the same offensive coordinator forever. Then Dungy retires, and they promote from within, rather than overhauling the coaching staff and bringing in a new system.

Posted by: mattylight | December 28, 2009 10:21 AM |

Manning was the HC and OC before and after the Dungy regime.

Posted by: TubularBells | December 28, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

i'm good at reading the tea leaves and i'm look into the future and seeing jc's performance not improve and camp 2 bringing up the fact that he's had 4 coaches and 10 different offensive systems to learn and he needs consistency to develop.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 28, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

He's improved every year since he's been here. Why wouldn't he improve again next year? He played like crap last night though. I think he's gun shy now and probably for good reason. I doubt I'd step up into that pocket after the shot he took from Ratliff. The biggest quesiton is will he regain his trust or is he permanently shellshocked like Patrick Ramsey?

Anyway, JC is kind of a moot point. I think we're stuck with him either way. I don't see us letting him go for nothing and I don't see anyone beating him out in camp.

BMW has shown that he can not make it through a whole season and he can't block a defensive end stunt. He may have a place on this team next year but I think we have to take a guard in the draft this year. It's terrible but we have far more needs than we have draft picks. I'd start by drafting 2 tackles and a guard and maybe a late round running back. I honestly don't see this team becoming competitive in under 3 years.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 28, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | December 28, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I should have said during and after the Dungy regime.

Posted by: TubularBells | December 28, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

On TV, could not see the player, but was he the one that whiffed on Witten for that 70 yard play? Was Orakpo hurt, we saw alot of Wilson last night?

Hail Skins, but god to be shutout by Cowgirls, F that.

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 28, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse
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Landry had man to man on the big Witten play. Although I think that's an insult to man to man coverage

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

For all the Campbell knockers, I ask:

Are you seeing that once the ball is snapped, Campbell has a defender, or one of his own OFFENSIVE LINEMEN in his immediately?

It's like people give the offensive line a pass because other QBs with shi__y offensive lines can get it done (see: Rodgers, Aaron)

People Rodgers is the exception, not the rule. You stick an average QB behind this offensive line, and you'll get the same results -- which is ANY QB that can be acquired in either free agency or the draft will be.

You have to stop comparing Rodgers and Campbell. If P. Manning, Brees, and Brady (and maybe now Rivers) are the crème de la crème of QBs, then Rodgers is right there with guys like Roelisthberger, McNabb, and Warner.

Campbell sits with guys like Garrard and other bamas I can't even think to name right now.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

What did y'all think of Receiver, The's performance w/ tha Bronx?

...... dunno... just trying to lighten things up.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

matty you make some valid points.....but I heartily laugh at any mofo that comes up here and defends anything about the Redskins org at this point in the season after they game/season/offseason/last two years they have had.

siht is rotten from the top down, core out..they all suck owner/coaches/player....

but Vinny is gone, some respected football people are coming...can only look to the future really...

but enough 600 word defenses of the indefensible.

Posted by: chrislarry | December 28, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I hate having a Lineman in my immediately!

I accidently 93 Megabytes! Is that bad?

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey, BeanTownGreg, have you heard anything on PFT about Cowher interviewing for the Skins? I think it's about time for a report!

Posted by: frediefritz | December 28, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I'd start by drafting 2 tackles and a guard and maybe a late round running back. I honestly don't see this team becoming competitive in under 3 years.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 28, 2009 10:29 AM |

With the right coaching the D can be formidible, with the right drafting and coaching the O can be serviceable. Translation: 10-6 is reachable next yr or the yr after.

Posted by: TubularBells | December 28, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey Matty,
Agree -- having a HOF coach for 8 years, the same system is really great.

But you're confusing cause and effect. The Colts have all that stability because they're WINNING. It works.

Look at PHI: lots of stability at HC, QB, and systems, both offensively and defensively. NYG: stability. Both teams that consistently win.

Losing teams have lots of turnover. WAS is a losing franchise, and will continue to have turnover until they start winning.

Look at DAL: since JJ they've had some degree of turnover, especially in HC. I guarantee you if they lose their first playoff game Phillips is gone. They aren't quite a losing team, but they will continue to lack stability until they're consistently winning.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 28, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

The main problem is we have been playing the wrong QB.
Posted by: skinfanman
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100% correct. Campbell lost under Gibbs Saunders, Zorn and Sherman Lewis. He hasn't look good under ANY system he has played under.. that's why they keep changing them hoping to fine one he would excel under.. but no matter what they try Campbell still SUCKS!!! 0-6 vs the NFC East. Campbell by far is the WORST QB in the NFC East... He HAS be the first to go after Zorn....

Posted by: sovine08 | December 28, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Hey, BeanTownGreg, have you heard anything on PFT about Cowher interviewing for the Skins? I think it's about time for a report!

Posted by: frediefritz | December 28, 2009 10:33 AM |

Time for a fake report?

Posted by: TubularBells | December 28, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

"...Snyder heard Collinsworth say bringing in Haynesworth and not bringing in O-line help was a gamble that 'came up snake eyes'..."


Some of us posted to this effect last winter.

We were even consistent on draft day when the hope was that the team would take either Micheal Oher or Phil Loadholdt to play right tackle with the 13th pick.

Oh well......

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

listening to Kornheiser and someone was on and said that Cowher is interested in coaching again next year, but that the Skins are not an option...he is looking at Tampa Bay, Carolina, Chicago and Houston, those are his top choices.

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 28, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Campbell sits with guys like Garrard and other bamas I can't even think to name right now.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2009 10:31 AM |

Remember that play from last nite where Camp spots a WR wide open on the sideline and throws the ball 10 ft over his head, a true sideline dumpoff pass, and the WR throws his hands up in frustration, true WTF body language.

Posted by: TubularBells | December 28, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I saw similar info on PFT, Cowher is looking at Carolina and Tampa, I saw a blogger from Chicago said he wants Cowher there, but no word if Billy wants to go up north.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 28, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

beepbeep

Posted by: frediefritz | December 28, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

anyone get any cool stuff for Christmas??

For all the WII owners, the kids got the new Super Mario Bros. game, which they've not stopped playing for quite some time......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

You have to stop comparing Rodgers and Campbell. If P. Manning, Brees, and Brady (and maybe now Rivers) are the crème de la crème of QBs, then Rodgers is right there with guys like Roelisthberger, McNabb, and Warner.
Posted by: RedDMV
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Why? they were drafted next to each other, both have poor OL's but one guy has his team in the playoffs and one guy SUCKS!!!

Campbell sits with guys like Garrard and other bamas I can't even think to name right now.
Posted by: RedDMV
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I don't even think Campbell is in Garard's league.. and if Jacksonville is smart they will draft Tim Tebow next year. Everyone who defends Campbell say's yeah he's not great but a team can win with a medocre QB. Well yeah he has happened but it is VERY RARE.. Look at who is making the playoffs this year in the NFC.. Every team has a GOOD QB. McNabb, Favre, Brees, Warner, Rodgers and Romo. And next in line would have been Eli Manning. Teams with medocre QB generally do not make it. And Campbell by far is the worst QB in the NFC East.. So yeah try to improve the 52 guys around the QB but the QB is the most important player on the field.. He should be the guy the MOST is expected of...

Posted by: sovine08 | December 28, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

JC may or may not be the one who is capable of taking this team to the playoffs. My point is, that we have no idea.

I do know this: When VC got run, JZ re-assumed playcalling, and the Redskins some how INSTANTLY regressed to short crossing, bubble screen throwing, no blitz protection from empty backfield ugliness.

The new coaching staff will get a player who is not afraid to stand in and take an azz beating and who will follow the play calls and the direction from the staff without punching them in the face on the sideline even if they deserve it for the way they ineptly prepare the team and call the game.

Kind of a run on sentence there, but you get the point: JC is good enough to be a bridge to the new version of the Redskins.

Its not just the Oline, its not just the lack of a big running game, its not just the play calling and totally lame coaching. Put them all together, and you get, well, the Redskins. They suck.

At this point, anything will be better than JZ's abortion.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 28, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Note to GM Allen: we fans would embrace an intellegent rebuidling plan for a couple of years that includes a competent, take-no-sheet coaching staff, cuting of dead wood from the roster, and smart drafting ... we cannot stomach any more "polishing the turd" by bringing in the next "missing piece" free-agent signee. Draft tackles in round 1 (left) and 2 (right), guard in rnd 4, DB, LB, and RB in final rounds.

Posted by: PDXskin | December 28, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Every team has distractions and injuries, for Pete's sake. It is not an excuse to pack it in. Buffalo fired their OC right at the start of the season. The Bengals lost a WR to a weird death. The Steelers were dealing with nasty rumors about their QB. The Panthers sat there all season with one of the worst QBs ever seen in the league, yet they've picked it up bigtime and have 2 major upsets in the last 2 weeks. Buffalo has most of their key DEF players on IR, yet they continue to play well. Etc...etc.

The problem with JC is simple. By now, we should know whether he's da guy. And the truth is, he hasn't proven this. It's very analogous to the Patrick Ramsey situation.

Posted by: messykat | December 28, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV said, "You stick an average QB behind this offensive line, and you'll get the same results." Therefore, I think he agrees with most of us that Campbell is just an average QB. So, since we're 4-12 it stands to reason that we should try something different to see if we can do better than just "average". There's little downside at this point to a switch.

Posted by: ggt546 | December 28, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

THE SKINS SUXXXXXX

Posted by: rlomax67 | December 28, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Now THIS is the offense that I had grown accustomed to before the arrival of Sherman Lewis. I predict about 25 bubble screens to Moss in the finale.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 28, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I went to the game last night and nearly froze watching this wretched game. JC is just aweful. Even when he's not rushed and has a chance to throw the ball down field, he doesn't even trust himself. Fred Davis was literally open all night but JC rarely saw him. He's too quick to check down to a dump off. Another problem is that our WRs don't get much separation from defenders. Their routes are poor. I also watched Moss, one on one with a defender, just trot down the field on a pass play and not even look like he was expecting a pass. The defender had nothing to worry about. No discipline on this team, a give up attitude, poor execution. Dallas receivers were always open. Our defenders always a yard late. Pathetic. This season can't be over quick enough. Blow this thing up and lets start from stratch.

Posted by: jfoster13 | December 28, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

These are bunch of overpaid players, coaches, who can give a rat's #$% about the fans or this city. It starts from the top rat who only cares about making money from the idiots who go to the games and buys merchandise for the past ten years. These are probably the same idiots who have very little money in the bank and are living in denial that this is the greatest football team in the history of earth. Until the midget rat is taken out, the organization will go no where despit having a GM or not. Signing bonus, big dollar not to mention wasted draft picks have killed this team for a decade now and they will not be a consistent playoff contender for years to come. We'll be saying the same things about Allen in a few years just like old Vinny boy....

Posted by: mofares | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

rodgers is having a good year but he was in the same system his whole nfl career even when he was a back-up to favre. campbell this is his 2-3rd system with washington bad o-line etc. campbell is now shell-shocked from the beat downs last year(half of it) and this year, zorn the idiot wants campbell to bend down and change some of his mechanics in throwing so that he will look more like him a short white average arm qb with limited athletic ability. zorn the dope says campbell must step up in the pocket..what damm pocket as soon as the ball is snapped on most plays a defensive player is whooping rabach's azz pushing him into campbell or running by him slamming into campbell. zorn is a fool/bigot he will not start e. williams at center a man who is stronger quicker and younger than the weakling rabach he would rather blame campbell for not stepping up into the imaginary pocket. then for williams zorn brings in another weakling in w. montgomery at guard who was hog-whipped the rest of the night.

Posted by: wathu19 | December 28, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

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