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Poll: Who Is Worth the Most to His Team?

By washingtonpost.com Sports Editor  |  October 4, 2008; 10:45 PM ET
 
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10:45 on a Saturday? Wow... just wow!

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

when it says "washingtonpost.com Sports Editor", is that just a fancy term for "senior member of the weekend janitorial staff"?

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

ditching the new poll feature already?

Posted by: amorris525 | October 4, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

"The server at r.espn.go.com is taking too long to respond."

That's all I get.

Westbrook. The Philly one, not the Washington one. Is this really compelling polling data? Or is the #2/#3 competition the REAL story here?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

44 votes in the first 14 minutes?!?!?! Is the lurker community THAT huge up here?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

poor 'Coat: trying to avoid the Arch Deluxe jersey, his best WR/TEs are Shockey, Boldin, and Burress.

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

well that one's easy: make it take less time to respond!

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 10:57 PM

I remain open to recommendations and suggestions.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Did you all see this? From the ESPN East Blog:

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

"We had the good fortune to visit with Eagles middle linebacker Stewart Bradley for a few minutes Friday before he stepped into a team meeting. This is Bradley's first season as a starter, but he seems to be making the transition well. The Eagles have been excellent against the run, and the linebackers have been a major part of the success.

Bradley talked about how much respect the defense has for Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell. He said that defensive coordinator Jim Johnson has designed a game plan around trying to knock Campbell out of rhythm. He threw for 188 yards in the first half of last Sunday's 26-24 win over the Cowboys.

In an effort to pressure Campbell, the Eagles have 15 different blitz packages in their base defense and 11 more in their specialty packages. If you're keeping track at home, the Eagles are bringing 26 blitzes to this game. The normal team might not have more than five different blitz packages in their base defense. So how does Bradley remember it all?

"It was a little overwhelming at first," he said. "I think we had three or four different blitzes in college."

Bradley also talked about how important it will be to maintain the proper gaps against the Redskins, a team that loves running to the left. We call the Redskins a left-handed running team. Oops ... I'm boarding my flight to Philadelphia. I'll have more from Bradley when we land."

:(


Posted by: Lisa_R | October 4, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

sween,
if you go to http://games.espn.go.com/frontpage
is your team listed on the right upper corner? If so, can you get in that way?

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, yes, agreed on the colon, close parens, but none of this is at all a surprise. Which means the Eagles will be putting themselves in a position of being short handed at least one in the secondary. Which is how the Cowboys game planned (and played) against the Eagles. Bottom line: Westbrook.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

My user name and password, but not my team name, thus no. And with the former, no. Same delay.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

try chanting.

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

I trust Zorn here, and I trust Chris Meidt, I trust Soup... they will have prepared for blizkrieg all week long... Soup spent his free time this week watching Eagles game film... not saying we'll execute to perfection, but we won't be surprised by this...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 4, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

sween, serves you right for joining that hoopty league in the first place.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 4, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

The only surprise (or lack thereof) will be that of which the Westbrook the Elder will be capable. [Really should have ended that with the preposition ... through.]

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Hold up, did UVa, my alma mater, mired in the doldrums of a miserable season, really beat Maryland today? That score had to be a misprint, right? Golly.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 4, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

hoopty? chanting now. staying medium.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20081004_Eagles__Westbrook_practices__still_iffy.html

"Westbrook still iffy" as of this morning... I don't buy it, he's playing...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

WaPo uses the term "shell shocked" to describe Maryland's 31-0 feel.

OK, gotta run, Tina Fey in the opening in a second.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

sween, my only guess is that mickey and minnie were supposed to be watching the espn login servers, but they snuck off for a little nooky.

twenty minutes tops.

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

MAXIMUM medium, sween.

My money's on Emilio Garcia-Ruiz as the mystery editor who posted this. Bet he's in the newsroom waiting for the baseball to wrap up. If it had been Nunz, he would have gone with the new-school poll. That's my theory.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I think it's Bonita, home from school for the weekend.

Posted by: daggar | October 4, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

sween, thx for the heads up on tina fey

Ohh and the exec is Charlie casserly

I love ann Hathaway

Posted by: dealer1 | October 4, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not just sayin' that to pander to Florida voters."

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

does the left coast get SNL live?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

6 o'clock feels closer than it is. medium and out.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

but I love Jews and Cuban food

Posted by: dealer1 | October 4, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Nate, yeah even if he does he'll be in and out without much effect

Posted by: dealer1 | October 4, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Forgot to mention the other guy I trust: Greg Blache. We have a hell of shot in this game, no doubt about it, but I still don't like it... ah hell, all this worry will be moot in about 13 hours when they kick the thing off...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

That's what she said!

Posted by: daggar | October 5, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

259 votes in this poll... wowza...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 5, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I was very upset Maryland lost. I am NOT a Terps fan but noticed that every time they won this season the Redskins won. I think they lost their first game and then started winning ala the Skins.

It's my jinx thing....so I was pulling for MD even though I dislike them. Hope we do not get blown out like that.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 5, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse


+++does the left coast get SNL live?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2008 11:49 PM+++

No. Not even on Direct TV, which I have, The nets delay... Almost everyone else time shifts. The Daily Show, for instance, runs at 8 PM The net news, tho runs at 6:30. If there are breaking news items--like the fires out here--they'll redo the show three hours later.

HBO is nice. we get the regular feed and a late feed three hours later.

Really like the 10 AM start on Sunday for fubball.


Posted by: Corkczar | October 5, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Loosable type eating my post?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 5, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Flashback Friday: Gibbs-Buddy, Sonny-Norm
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Rich Tandler
WarpathInsiders.com Oct 3, 2008

Rich Tandler takes a look at two classic rivalries from the Redskins' past.

Gibbs vs. Buddy

While Joe Gibbs vs. Buddy Ryan, the Eagles' coach from 1986 through 1990, never had quite the zip to it as Parcells or Landry facing off against Gibbs, it was an interesting if short-lived rivalry nonetheless.

While he rarely talked about it, Gibbs was not a fan of Ryan's style. Buddy's modus operandi included antics such as calling a timeout so that his team could throw a touchdown pass on the last play of a game that the Eagles were winning handily and putting a bounty out on opposing players, promising cash to his players if they put some guys on the other team out of the game. When asked about Ryan, the usually gracious Gibbs would quickly change the subject, saying volumes about his feelings about Ryan with his silence.

Occasionally, however, Gibbs true opinion of Ryan came out. Before the two teams met in a playoff game following the 1990 season, a reporter happened upon Gibbs in the hallways of Redskins Park. The coach had not left the complex for at least a few days and he was in an unguarded state. He talked about Ryan and the more he talked the madder he got. "I live to play a game like this one. I live to play this guy." Gibbs said, turning red faced with rage.

Gibbs didn't get mad like that often, but when he did he usually knew how to channel his fury it into a productive direction. His Redskins were as focused and as motivated as anyone had ever seen them and they beat the Eagles in Philly 20-6. The win ran Gibbs' record against Ryan to 8-3.

It wasn't just the end of the Eagles' season, it was the end of the road for Buddy Ryan. He was fired the day after the game. You have to think that Joe Gibbs allowed himself a chuckle when he heard that news.

Sonny vs. Norm

It was a deal that never would happen today. Two division rivals exchanged quarterbacks in 1964 when the Redskins sent Norm Snead and defensive back Claude Crabb to the Eagles in exchange for Sonny Jurgensen.

Jurgensen was at first unbelieving and then stunned when he heard the news. He had just met with Eagles coach Joe Kuharich. "It was April Fools' Day and I thought that they were just kidding me," said Jurgensen. "But that wasn't the case. I was in shock."

It didn't take long for him to make the Eagles pay. In their first meeting of the '64 season at DC Stadium, Jurgensen came out firing away at his former teammates. In the early going his prime target was Bobby Mitchell, who caught eight passes on the day, two of them for touchdowns. The second one came as Crabb futilely tried to catch up with Mitchell in the end zone as the Redskins flanker hauled in Jurgensen's pass in the end zone in the closing seconds of the first half.

Jurgensen kept on pitching it in the second half, turning his attention to Charley Taylor. Twice the pair hooked up from long distance, once from 66 yards and again on a 74-yard bomb.

Amidst the scoring passes to the future Hall of Famers in Taylor and Mitchell, Jurgensen also got off a TD toss to John Lockett, giving him five for the game. The Eagles certainly regretted making the quarterback swap by halftime and their lament would continue for years to come as Jurgensen went on to enshrinement in Canton while Snead's best seasons were decidedly mediocre.

Rich Tandler blogs about the Skins at RealRedskins.com and he is the author of the upcoming book The Redskins Chronicle. You can reach Rich by email at rich.tandler+real@gmail.com


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Story URL: http://phi.scout.com/a.z?s=67&p=2&c=797306

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 5, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, sorry about the possible jinx thing. Had I known about it I would have hoped for UVa to lose (since their season is already down the toilet) instead of just expecting them to lose.

(And if it brings you any comfort whatsoever, I don't think the outcome of that game will have any cosmic bearing on the outcome of the Skins' game. But I'm not trying to deny you your superstitions -- you're entitled to 'em, same as the next rabid fan!)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 5, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

7:30 am and I am ready for kickoff. Like you Lisa, I am worried since several folks here have said the same thing about MD and the Skins victories. Coincidence I say.

Oh well, I'll go check my wood duck spots and then get settled in for kick off and the smack talking that usually accompanies an Iggles vs. Skins game. You see, my wife is an iggles fan. Poor woman got me and is an iggles fan. Life is not fair sometimes.

Posted by: splitbill | October 5, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh. Has Cindy been fired? She's usually at work by 6:00 am on Game Day. Got to get in, lead the stretching exercises, set up the coolers of Gator Ade, and warm up the typewriters for the "scribes." Now it's 7:28 and she's not here? Maybe she's stuck in rush hour traffic somewhere.

Nice, insightful, and well-researched article by Barry Svrluga on Zorn/Campbell and how each needs to make the other look good in order to make himself look good. And, how they're doing it. Good analogy from Sherman Smith on what it's like to learn a new offense: "It's like driving in a new town. You just don't know your way around. But after you've been there a while you can zip around."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

good morning and beep beep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | October 5, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

I am worried since several folks here have said the same thing about MD and the Skins victories. Coincidence I say.

Posted by: splitbill | October 5, 2008 7:39 AM |

Let's hope so. If our fate is tied to the University of Maryland, then that makes us terrapin soup. If Ralph Fridgen can't get a win against the Virginia Yahoos, it's time to replace him with Marty Schottenheimer. 31-0?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

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