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Portis, Haynesworth out but improving

Running back Clinton Portis (various right leg injuries) and defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (sprained ankle) both sat out practice Thursday, but Coach Jim Zorn described them as "getting better," and expects both to play Monday night. Defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin (elbow) also skipped the workout, but Zorn said Griffin would likely participate in practice Friday.

Safeties Kareem Moore and Chris Horton, who were both ill Wednesday, again sat out on Thursday, but Zorn said both will likely practice Friday. Tight end Chris Cooley, who missed practice Wednesday to attend a family funeral in Wyoming, returned to workouts Thursday.
Zorn also said he had no further word on offensive tackle Chris Samuels, who is undergoing tests in California on his injured neck.

By Barry Svrluga  |  October 22, 2009; 4:15 PM ET
 
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UNO!!!

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 22, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Damn.

Cooley was in Wyoming. If I would have known, I would have went to see him.

his loss I guess

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 22, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

beat hard said gibbs has management skills - theres a newsflash

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 22, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they just admit that Samuels is likely done for the year. Everyone else around them is saying so.

Posted by: Predator48 | October 22, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

John Kent Cooke said his father wouldn't have hired Joe Gibbs the 2nd time around. He'd be looking at the future, not the past. Joe Gibbs was given the title "Team President" when he was hired in 2004 and yet kept Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 22, 2009 4:26 PM

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 22, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs probably would be great in the Parcells-type President of Football operations kind of role - hiring and overseeing a GM, etc. He just seemed like he was done with football last go-around. If people like Beathard are commenting about it maybe there's some fire behind that smoke. JReid's been wrong before (i.e., Levi Jones).

Posted by: skinswest | October 22, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Will be curious to hear the player evaluations and characterizations of same -- because they've consistently been contradicting their coach on injury reports for several weeks already.

Fortunately, there doesn't appear to be anything serious enough to require a proper medical evaluation -- rather, they're only feeling a little "discomfort" that only allows then to dress out in sweats, suck cigars and crack jokes with Dan and Vinny on the sidelines.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 22, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Question - if you are a Fordham grad and some nosy forker asks you what school you went to, is it OK to say FU buddy, FU?

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 22, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Another practice in the books at Redskin Park. The last topic Jim Zorn covered in his briefing was Steve Largent, who lambasted Redskins' management on a Seattle radio station Wednesday.

Zorn said he spoke with Largent on the phone. I wouldn't expect any public comments from Largent for awhile.

Said Zorn: "Well, you know, I just called Steve and said' -- Zorn makes the excuse me sound -- "I don’t know if you can make a word out of that."

Asked if management reacted to the comments, Zorn said: "What can I do? It created another thing to talk about. I really want to get to football and not all the stuff that’s going on."

Largent's rip-job made for GREAT copy and it was great of Largent to show his friend he has his back. But it can't help Zorn's cause inside Redskin Park.

*Hunter Smith said he will know Friday if he can punt against the Eagles. He has missed the last two games with a groin injury.

“I’m going to go out [Friday] and see how it feels," he said. “And if it feels good, rest a couple of days and we'll be good to go Monday night. … It’s one of those things that you can’t know if you’re all the way back unless you go out and kick.”

*Zorn had nothing new to report on how Chris Samuels' neck exam went in California.

*Zorn on his coaching staff: "They’ve done a great job. Our coaching staff has been very up front with them. We’re playing very well on defense and that’s an easy task to stay together. Everybody is waiting our offense to perfom better, no question about that."

*Even though Portis, Haynesworth, Griffin, Horton and Moore didn't practice, they are all expected to play Monday night.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Another practice in the books at Redskin Park. The last topic Jim Zorn covered in his briefing was Steve Largent, who lambasted Redskins' management on a Seattle radio station Wednesday.

Zorn said he spoke with Largent on the phone. I wouldn't expect any public comments from Largent for awhile.

Said Zorn: "Well, you know, I just called Steve and said' -- Zorn makes the excuse me sound -- "I don’t know if you can make a word out of that."

Asked if management reacted to the comments, Zorn said: "What can I do? It created another thing to talk about. I really want to get to football and not all the stuff that’s going on."

Largent's rip-job made for GREAT copy and it was great of Largent to show his friend he has his back. But it can't help Zorn's cause inside Redskin Park.

*Hunter Smith said he will know Friday if he can punt against the Eagles. He has missed the last two games with a groin injury.

“I’m going to go out [Friday] and see how it feels," he said. “And if it feels good, rest a couple of days and we'll be good to go Monday night. … It’s one of those things that you can’t know if you’re all the way back unless you go out and kick.”

*Zorn had nothing new to report on how Chris Samuels' neck exam went in California.

*Zorn on his coaching staff: "They’ve done a great job. Our coaching staff has been very up front with them. We’re playing very well on defense and that’s an easy task to stay together. Everybody is waiting our offense to perfom better, no question about that."

*Even though Portis, Haynesworth, Griffin, Horton and Moore didn't practice, they are all expected to play Monday night.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Yes, as long as you follow up by saying, "F Dallas, too"

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 22, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I think Gibbs was done with the day to day grind of coaching when he left the team in 07. If he could be in a position to find the right people and put them in place, then hang out with his family it could work. I don't see him working 100 hour weeks anymore, though.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 22, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why anybody still thinks Chris Samuels will ever play football again.

I hope he's interviewing at FOX while he is on the West Coast.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 22, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

THINGS TO DO LIST:
FIRE ZORN
CUT PORTIS
CUT THE WHOLE OLINE (EXCEPT DOCKERY)
TRADE FIRST PICK FOR 2 HIGH SECOND ROUNDS
SPEND ALL DRAFT PICKS ON A OLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET MEDIOCORE QB
GET RID OF MK12 & DT11
TAKE THOSE PICKS GET A RUNNING BACK
AND 1 FA WR..........................

Posted by: jiza32 | October 22, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Snyder brings back Casserly in the surprise move of the Decade.

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 22, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if the Eagles starting LT is still injured?

If he is still out I think the Redskins can get decent pressure without blitzing too heavily.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 22, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

HE just got on the Field today....Post doesn't do a great job at looking at the oppennent on the field each week...They do a fabolous job looking at oppennents with Redskin Park, though...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 22, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Everything is obviously being set up for Zorn to get fired after the game on Monday whether they win or not. It seems like the plan has been in effect since we got "another set of eyes" or at least after the last loss.

Even if the Skins somehow win big on Monday, Zorn will not be the play caller, so what difference does it make as far as his job goes. Snyder and Cerrato just need their new play caller to get established with the offense so they can let Zorn go. This is why Zorn is not even relaying the plays to Campbell.

Gray will be the interim coach after Monday. Snyder's PR people are already giving Gray more time with the press and limiting everybody elses time with the media. It is obvious what is going on here.

Snyder is really pretty shameless in the way he does things.

Posted by: cannontl | October 22, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Trying to decide if we are worse off than the Raiders whose HC might be charged with felony assault. . .

Posted by: sfskin | October 22, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

What about Mike Ditka as a GM...He can no doubt evaluate talent and he has a nose for defense

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 22, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Snyder brings back Casserly in the surprise move of the Decade.

Intern in George Allen's initial year in DC. Over-the-hill. Hopefully they will go with someone younger.

Posted by: periculum | October 22, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

ESPN Radio is trashing the Skins right now

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 22, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Trying to decide if we are worse off than the Raiders whose HC might be charged with felony assault. . .

Posted by: sfskin | October 22, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I could just be looking at it through my burgundy and gold glasses, but I would say there is no chance the redskins are in worse shape than the Raiders.

How Davis handled the firing of Kiffin/ hiring of Cable was way worse in my opinion. Now Cable may be headed to jail. And I think Al Davis is actually crazy.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 22, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 22, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

What about Mike Ditka as a GM...He can no doubt evaluate talent and he has a nose for defense

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 22, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Uhhh....the same Ditka that traded all 7 of New Orleans draft picks to the Skins, so they could jump up and take Ricky "I love weed" Williams. No thanks.

Two words: Ron Wolf. He lives in Annapolis and is available. He rebuilt the Pack and managed to pry some guy named Farve away from the Falcons.

This is the right man for this job!

Posted by: ksquare | October 22, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

HE just got on the Field today....Post doesn't do a great job at looking at the oppennent on the field each week...They do a fabolous job looking at oppennents with Redskin Park, though...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 22, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 4th.

I don't know how their line has looked with him. I just know that his backup made Oakland's DE look like he was all-world.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 22, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The Gibbs blog entry didn't say anything about Gibbs as a GM. It said team president. He'd be the guy who hires a GM I would assume and would give the team a structure at the top. Which is badly needed, right now Snyder is the one guiding the ship.

Frankly, I agree with Beathard. I wouldn't mind this happening.

Would be good on many fronts. Good for PR and good to give the front office a sense of believability and trust that doesn't exist with Snyder in that capacity.

I'd welcome it as long as he's not coaching and not picking players.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 22, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

if they did hire Gibbs, he's not a west coast system guy. It just doesn't make sense oh wait nothing Snyder does makes sense.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 22, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

so what's the point of having Gibbs as the pres.? Just for him to hire a GM? then what's his job after that?

Posted by: thor2 | October 22, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

i love weed and ricky williams (well like him) but not 7 draft picks worth!

ditka would be a horrible choice. dude is great on TV, let him stay there.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 22, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

HE just got on the Field today....Post doesn't do a great job at looking at the oppennent on the field each week...They do a fabolous job looking at oppennents with Redskin Park, though...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 22, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 4th.

I don't know how their line has looked with him. I just know that his backup made Oakland's DE look like he was all-world.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8

The guy the Raiders have going up against the other teams LT is ... Richard Seymour ... is somewhere between very very good and all-world.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 22, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't know exactly what the function of team president is. I just know that a GM and a team president are two different things.

But Gibbs' main function would be credibility.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 22, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The guy the Raiders have going up against the other teams LT is ... Richard Seymour ... is somewhere between very very good and all-world.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 22, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Richard Seymore has hardly been all-world this year. He's good, but he hasn't done anything that Andre Carter can't match.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 22, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Ron Wolff would be a good call and Casserly seems to have figured out how to build a team. The Texans success has a lot to do with him. Plus he went for substance over style when he left Reggie Bush and Vince Young behind to get Mario Williams with a #1 overall.

There are guys out there who do know how to build a club -- not sure Gibbs is one of them. Obviously Beathard has, but I'm guessing he's past the point of doing that ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 22, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs would hire a GM, bring respectability, advise the GM and coach, and be a liaison between management and Snyder.

Posted by: lordtwang | October 22, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

beeps peeps.....

Posted by: ksquare | October 22, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"Gibbs would hire a GM, bring respectability, advise the GM and coach, and be a liaison between management and Snyder."

Here is the difference between Bill Parcells and Joe Gibbs:

Talent evaluation.

Joe Gibbs is NOT a good talent evaluator, Parcells is.

Joe Gibbs is however a better "people" person.

As long as Gibbs didn't interfere with the GM duties of womever he brought in, I would be all for it.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 22, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

JReid's been wrong before

JReid's always wrong...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs would hire a GM, bring respectability, advise the GM and coach, and be a liaison between management and Snyder.

Posted by: lordtwang | October 22, 2009 5:29 PM

Agree.

Posted by: cannontl | October 22, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs would hire a GM, bring respectability, advise the GM and coach, and be a liaison between management and Snyder.

Posted by: lordtwang | October 22, 2009 5:29 PM

Agree, with an emphasis on respectability.

Posted by: cannontl | October 22, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Half time chant, trailing 21 - 3:

SELL THE TEAM
SELL THE TEAM
SELL THE TEAM

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 22, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

It was reported that when the Skins played Charlotte that Snyder and Gibbs had dinner. I wonder what they talked about. Perhaps there is something in the works.

Posted by: cannontl | October 22, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I think the only way for Snyder to get out of this is to hire Gibbs as a chief manager for the organization.

Posted by: cannontl | October 22, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The Danny needs 2 swallow his pride and hire 2 former Hogs... Mark May for Director of Scouting. The guy has potentially seen every major college player in the past 7-8 years. He'll know who to pick. As for HC, go with Russ Grimm. He's been the line coach for a SB winner and SB runner-up... Leave them other dudes (Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren, Shanahan) alone. No coach has ever won SB's with different teams. Be patient and by 2011 the boys will be back on top!!!

Posted by: samisunc | October 22, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the days that if you don't practice you don't play. Proof that our coach has no control. It is a joke that you have two players that decide when they will practice yet they still play.

Posted by: skinsflorida | October 22, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"What about Mike Ditka as a GM...He can no doubt evaluate talent and he has a nose for defense

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 22, 2009 5:04 PM"

PLEASE tell me this was sarcasm...Ricky Williams trade ring bells for anyone?

Posted by: ThinkingMan | October 22, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"Gibbs would hire a GM, bring respectability, advise the GM and coach, and be a liaison between management and Snyder."

Here is the difference between Bill Parcells and Joe Gibbs:

Talent evaluation.

Joe Gibbs is NOT a good talent evaluator, Parcells is.

Joe Gibbs is however a better "people" person.

As long as Gibbs didn't interfere with the GM duties of womever he brought in, I would be all for it.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 22, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse
============================================
I don't know if I agree with that. I believe both men are good, I wouldn't go so far as saying one is better than the other. Parcells hasn't won a SB since Marshall was picking the talent in NY and Gibbs hasn't won a SB since Beathard/Casserly were picking them here.

I'm mean Robert Kraft wasn't exactly thrilled with the idea of Parcells picking the players in New England and said no(which is why they parted ways). He didn't exactly tear it up when had that control for the Jets and when he retired from the Cowboys, the Giants immediately denied his request of being their GM when the position was available. Don't get me wrong, I mean the man can pick talent (Demarcus Ware) but he can pick some duds too. Gibbs has wrong on talent (Desmond Howard, Jason Campbell) , but he's made good choices too (Sean Taylor, Doug Williams in both Tampa Bay and Washington).

But I think being the President is a good role for both men. With Gibbs in particular, I think he's the person Snyder will listen to and he can be buffer between the GM and Coach. After all the man was took the team to the Playoffs twice under Snyder and Vinny. I think he maximized the most with what he had and managed to keep a team focused when it best defensive player was murdered in the middle of the season.

Posted by: clark202 | October 22, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

portis, haynesworth not practicing - well bless my soul, I never.

just cracked me up seeing that. with CP being a lazy F as we know and Albert with his injuryprone _ss, that is so fitting.

gotta give Albert credit though, he is blowing up the middle like crazy in there, that's an immediate benefit to our D line. how the hell else would Mr. Atlas Andre Carter get two sacks two games in a row (both losses btw, but who's counting).

as for CP, he is so cut from any rational team.

Posted by: greatteamdan | October 23, 2009 4:22 AM | Report abuse

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