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Portis Says He Is Playing/Moss Not Looking Good

That pretty much says it all.
Lloyd sat out practice with a bruised shin, leading to lots of raised eyebrows. This thing with him won't end well, but we already knew that, right?
Given how the season has gone I could see him perhaps being in no hurry to get back on the practice field, and several of his teammtes believe that to be the case.
Thrash will start for Moss - he says the coaches told him to be ready to play the Z Sunday if Moss can't go - and McCardell and Caldwell expect to be active.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 4, 2007; 3:49 PM ET
 
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Comments

First!! (Had to do it)

Posted by: empty | October 4, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

That's it, just put Lloyd in the freakin' wedge during kick returns...

Posted by: CC | October 4, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Where is Mike Espy???

Posted by: CC | October 4, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

can somebody please just beat up that punkass b'tch already?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

who had the raised eyebrows? media members, coaches or players? thank you

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

i was actually semi-optimistic that lloyd would take this moss injury as his last chance to prove that he could be productive for this team. looks like its already over.

Posted by: dg28 | October 4, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

blloyd.com

Crush it with comments like a penultimatum

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Mike Espy is on IR for the season.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | October 4, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Moss always looks good.

Posted by: FakeLisa | October 4, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Can we get a posting of the Lloyd pool? Thanks!!

Posted by: NC ICU RN | October 4, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

mike espy got hurt in training camp or something...out for the year... This would of ben the perfect chance for him to step up!

Posted by: marc | October 4, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I think Lloyd should have to return punts with a blindfold on

Posted by: Jon is SD | October 4, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Lloyd is super smart on how he's handling this. I would do the same thing. The Redskins suck and why should he risk injury when the coaches are being vindictive little power trippers? Llyod needs time on the field with the ball thrown to him once in a while.

Last year, Brunell would go back to pass and be completely focused on Moss. Then when he wasn't open Brunell would run left (he was so slow it was more like walking) and toss the ball out of bounds. If he was lucky, Cooley might be in the area to catch it. Seriuosly, how may balls were really intended for Lloyd?

That's why I have anointed him the SUPER SMART REDSKIN OF THE DAY!!

Posted by: SuperSmart | October 4, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"Lloyd sucks. Lloyd sucks."

"IR Lloyd. IR Lloyd."

Posted by: Chant at FedEx this Sunday | October 4, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I second that! Brandon Lloyd is THE SUPER SMART REDSKIN OF THE DAY!!

Posted by: B L | October 4, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Know kidding, Mike Espy, god, I would've love to see him catch some slant passes or something. Damn, I'm pullin for that guy 100% next year. Prediction: Skins lose by a TD, sorry

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | October 4, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I love when a top-10 pick at corner says he gets bored during a game...."You can't say we'd like a running team," Rogers said. "Because at times for a corner you get bored out there. This game, we'll have a lot of action. It'll show what we're made of." Way to tell the AP that you don't like your job

Posted by: David | October 4, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

THE SUPER SMART REDSKIN OF THE DAY is definitely Lloyd.

This whole coaching staff is a bunch of tools. They don't know a great player when one is right in front of their faces.
This is the same crew that kept Brunell playing until all was lost for two seasons (2004 and 2006). And now they want to put Thrash into the Z spot? Thrash SUCKS!

Posted by: Uncle Joe | October 4, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

85 will always be Darkerian to me!

Posted by: Spurrier | October 4, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Whoa whoa whoa, JLA. The part of the story I don't like is that B. Lloyd gave up playing after a little injury. He didn't put posters up or anything, he just sat on the sidelines like a goon and waited. That man's gotta think, 'You got a career. You got a responsibility.' If your shins are hurting, you don't just rest for a few days and then call it quits. You get your ass out there and you find a way to play in that f*&king game.

Posted by: Billy Madison | October 4, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

"who had the raised eyebrows? media members, coaches or players? thank you"

Posted by: | October 4, 2007 04:03 PM

Leonid Breshnev. You're welcome.

Lloyd, Brandon IS on the kick off team. He's on Suisham's right side, second to the guy at the end of the line.

Re: Rogers (and I'll paraphrase before I find the exact quote), "The guy made like a double move; you can't stop that."

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

No billy. You don't "You get your ass out there and you find a way to play in that f*&king game. "
You have a career like B. Llyod, and you gotta save yourself for the next team that will be givin' you yo props. He ain't stubid and sit like you.

He be supa smart.

Posted by: SuperSmart | October 4, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"Gave me a double move and kind of ran towards the middle of the field; can't do nothing about it," Rogers said.

Posted by: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/10/AR2006121000900.html | October 4, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

How does that saying go? "When one man goes down, another man steps up, gets kicked in the shin, then hides in the locker room until the season is over."

Posted by: Mac | October 4, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"Gave me a double move and kind of ran towards the middle of the field; can't do nothing about it," Rogers said.

Check out which fun-loving WaPo writer got these quotes: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/10/AR2006121000900.html

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. Floyd. Just...just...Floyd.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 4, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

supersmart is brandon lloyd. he has nothing better to do and you know he spells like that. "supa" "stubid and sit"

what a donkey.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

LEAVE BRANDON ALONE!!!!!!

Posted by: C Crocker | October 4, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Go back to the this blog at the end of July... I said this already... I was there the first day of training camp... Brandon Lloyd was not running his routes too hard... You could tell he did not care and I am hope he gets deactivated for the rest of the season... He should get locked up for robbery!!! He is a cancer to this team!!!

Posted by: brandon lloyd | October 4, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I kid about Rogers because I love ... or at least, because the Skins burned a first round draft choice on him and I desperately want him to succeed.

The guys at postgameheroes give Rogers some love based on film review (this was about the Eagles game): http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=755

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Super Smart??? I think you Super Dumb!!!

Posted by: bethesdaboy | October 4, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I say bull-crap. Time for some tough love there Lloyd. You want your paycheck this week, you go EARN IT. I'm tired of guys not earning their paycheck.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 4, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Looks like storm clouds are gathering in paradise today.

Why the long faces guys, heavy dentures or something? There is much for you to be optimistic about:

Kitna can only be a gentle shove or two from riding on the short bus for a while. Lloyd Brando (I like the idea of him as a method-acting brooding presence in the background) is incapacitatatatited with carpet-burn or somesuch. How could things be better?

Sure Sultana may be temporarily crocked, but now you'll see that Randle El is a #1 receiver in waiting (not a big heap of #2, unlike some others), Portis will play and will run over people because making cuts will hurt too much, maybe Sellers will play as his backup instead of Betts.

And it's the Lions remember? As fragile as the Redskins'game psyche might be, you can bet it's worse for those guys. The foulest stench is in the air, the funk of forty thousand years. And grisly ghouls from every tomb, are closing in to seal your doom. And though you fight to stay alive, your body starts to shiver. For no mere mortal can resist, the evil of...

oh sorry, I lapsed off into somewhere else then.

Well anyway, it's the Lions and they always find a way to stink!!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 4, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I sure am glad I sponsored Lloyd's rap album. Ahem, I mean it was actually the dumb fans that pay $12 for a beer and $20 for nachos...hehehehehe

Posted by: Uncle Danny Boy S. | October 4, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Some one knock the WR out so that we can IR him.

Posted by: Go skins Go | October 4, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Loud noises!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Greg(Boston), easy on guys not earning their paycheck. You think I hang out at RI on my OWN time?

Found an interesting tidbit in the Q&A in one of those postgameheroes reviews. This was after the last game (not sure who the opponent was ... I think they wore blue). The guy at pgh thinks the deal might be the LBs. It felt like RockyMac had only a good, not outstanding game during Week Three. Hopefully the Bye Week rest will have been good for him. Plus, b/c the Lions are so pass happy, maybe LB run support becomes less of a premium.
______________

Question: what can they do to fix this pass d? If they're getting killed by TEs and underneath stuff, why not just send the blitz? Sure, we may give up a big play or two, but those long drives are killing us.

# Neil (aka Dillweed) Says:
September 27th, 2007 at 3:26 am

Great question...
Fletch has been getting embarrassed in coverage, although we stopped leaving him in one-on-one situations on Sunday (unlike against Philly) I didn't think he was very good as a Cover 2 zone MLB either. All 3 LB's are great at closing in on what's in front of them, and that's what made them successful against Miami. It's when teams stretch them deep that exposes their cover deficiencies.

Plex was just too much for Springs...I'd expect a similar performance from Randy Moss, Roy Williams and other elite #1 WR's. (What about putting S. Taylor on Moss?)

Rogers impressed against K. Curtis and with the exception of the mis-tackle against Plex which gave up the TD, I thought he did great today again. His yards given up on each target: 0, 0, 0, 0, and 33 (TD).

What can we do to fix the pass D? Our weakness is our LBs and the holes that open up behind them in zone coverage. This may be a consequence of having great a great run-stuffing/aggressive LB corps. Either we accept this flaw in our scheme or hope the coaches are able to find a way to allow the LBs to cover more ground while not giving up our strength which is stopping the run.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Sub, Burg? I hear your prediction. I disagree, but I hear ya.

For absolutely no reason what so ever, I say Skins in a come from behind victory - just to make things more confusing.

Posted by: Dik | October 4, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

THRILLER, THRILLER NIGHT!!!!!

Posted by: Michael Jackson | October 4, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Thankyou Michael. :-)

Posted by: Redcoat | October 4, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat- That was like some alternate universe Skippy that you channeled there. Nice Vincent Price though.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 4, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Ahh - postgameheroes. A bunch of guys just like us who don't have the talent to coach or work for the NFL. Only difference is they have all day to sit around and "analyze" pictures.

Sorry - I still can't get over the Sean Springs MRI shabingus.

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Sub = 'Sup? as in .... whussup?

Stop pointing to the Giants loss as a Defensive problem and guys getting out matched. Our D was on the field ENTIRELY too long in the second half, not to mention they were playing safe, not for the hit.

I would fully expect a big WR to make a catch over an exhausted CB or slower LB unless the WR was scared that a lightningbolt was going to lay him flat. By the middle of the 3rd 1/4, Giants knew that wasn't going to happen & then our guys had no rest.

For the 1000th time - it was not a defensive breakdown on Sunday. It was an offensive breakdown.

Posted by: Dik | October 4, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

blloyd.com

Crush it with comments like a penultimatum

Posted by: | October 4, 2007 04:05 PM

Done and... done.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 4, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Last week I picked the 'Fins to get off the schnide (wrong), the Packers to come back to earth (wrong), and the Iggles to beat the Gints in an offensive shoot-out (wrong).

Given my predictive prowess, this week I am predicting the Lions to beat the 'Skins 28-17.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | October 4, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Jasno - You think you could do a story on your NFL Exec friends' thoughts on Lloyd, Brandon kind of like the one you did on Heyer so we can get a reaction out of somebody up there at the park?

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 4-12, just trying to lift the gloom a bit.

It could be worse guys; you could be an ex-pat British fan of a team from further south, anyway let's call them "MyMammy" for a moment, that is 0-4 and has no clue how to stop anyone from running all over them, even overweight former "MyHemmy" quarterbacks who were run out of town on their walking frames for being, well, overweight and only having one leg.

Anyway, you see what I mean?

"Could be worse, could be raining".

Posted by: Redcoat | October 4, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Lloyd will never be active again for the Skins. That's a done deal. Skins will get Todd Pinkston back before they activate this douche-bag again. They will probably try to work out a deal to release him in the next few weeks and avoid too large of a salary cap hit.

On a brighter note, 30 Rock season premiere is tonight as well as another hour-long Office. There isn't a better 90 minutes of comedy on TV right now than that.

Posted by: CMoney | October 4, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Look, let's face it, the Redskins gave a $10M bonus to a criminal. Kwame Brown is more productive than Brandon Lloyd.

Not sure why the Giants were able to claim Domenik Hixon on waivers from Denver ahead of the Redskins. The Redskins should have been all over him.

Bring back Ryan Hoag. He had a better preseason than Brittle Brandon anyway and has better size.

Posted by: Her name is Brandon | October 4, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Where are you guys posting on the BLloyd site? Are you just sending him questions?

I want to put my .02 cents in.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 4, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Kawika Mitchell on NFLN now.

Q. "It's 3rd and one at the goal line at the end of the Redskins/Giants game and you came up with a big stop. Take me through what was going through your mind"

A. "Basically we knew exactly what they were going to run and we just executed our play"

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Greg - There's a section on the site that is called "ask BLloyd".

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, let's see what St. Joe, an man who never lies, but also never offers a full truth, has to say about postgameheroes:

"On the seriousness of Sean Taylor's (S, #21) injury:

'It's just a nagging thing. I think it's been there. It was the week before the break and he played with it, so I don't anticipate a problem there.'"

Is it POSSIBLE they took Sean Taylor for a prophylactic MRI (esp. after having missed Springs' sports hernia the previous offseason)? Its not like Joe Gibbs isn't super risk averse or anything. [And would it be possible that someone freaked out about it and blurted it to some website keepers?]

That said, are the postgameheroes guys just like RI bloggers? Yes (except that they do it with TiVo instead of an on/off switch that toggles either to complete, euphoric ecstasy or to end-of-the-world scenarios).

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Her name was Brandon, she was a wide-out
With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there
She would run slants and do the comeback
And while she tried to be a star, Cooley always tended bar
Across a crowded floor, they worked from 8 till 4
They were young and they had each other
Who could ask for more?

At the FedEx, with Moss Santana, (with Moss Santana)
The hottest spot north of Havana

* repeat ad nauseum *

Sorry guys, it's been a real random sort of day for me. I'll stop inflicting this stuff on y'all and get me coat.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 4, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Waiver wire goes from worst to first. Redskins at 2-1 (.667) have a better record than Giants at 2-2 (.500).

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The unedited version of Kawika Mitchell's response:

A. "Basically we knew exactly what they were going to run and we just executed our play ... that and Todd Yoder was out of position."

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

You just keep on buying those $23 hot dogs and riding that shuttle bus to the stadium. And if I hear one word outta you, you desperate fans...I MIGHT raise prices again. And again, you will dutifully pony up the dough like the little victim you are...heheheheheheeheheheeeeeeee

Posted by: Little prick Danny | October 4, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

My question to BLloyd...

Brandon,

Are you ever going to start earning the money that the Redskins organization graciously gave to you or are you content with basically cashing that fat check that Mr. Snyder forks out to you each week and doing absolutely nothing to deserve it. It's hurting the fans too!

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

good...as usual you know to respect me and call me Mister. Don't let me find out you are not.

Posted by: Mr. Snyder | October 4, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Big, that was basically what I said as well.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 4, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Position I am never out of. Exactly the right place to be at all times The Force tells me.

Posted by: Yoda | October 4, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder.

Be smart - don't give him your money.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

That's right - be sure to call Snyder, "Mr." - Mr. D-Bag

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

sween, I'm no Bubba Tyer but if you or anyone else has the Giants game on TiVo you can clearly go back and see when The Reaper hurt his knee. As Gibbs said "It was the week before the break and he played with it"

Just because those guys spend all day watching TiVo'd Redskins games, Am I supposed to take what they say is the problem with the team as the ultimate truth? They aren't on the sidelines each week. They don't know which plays were called or who should be where in Grilliam's system. Just because they know the difference between a cover two and a cover three does not make them a football analyst.


Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Mostly Invisible thought they called "shirts and shins" and thought that meant if you had shins you sat on the sidelines. . . . ah such a crapp joke. . .

Posted by: sfskin | October 4, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Closing time, all the bloggers heading out the door.

Posted by: Tweeeeeeeeeet! | October 4, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I have an idea. Lets turn Lloyd into a roving cub reporter of the WP.

He can't write much worse than New Jason. Should have a bigger grudge than J La. Also he may be 26, just the right age.

Posted by: M&M | October 4, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Mostly he's invisible, checks out the balance when his check comes in...

Posted by: R. Palmer | October 4, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Lloyd could never make it as a reporter - he'd probably sprain his fingers before getting his first story posted.

Posted by: B. Bradlee | October 4, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"In last meeting with Detroit, Clinton Portis rushed for 147 yards, including five runs of 10-plus yards."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=4AF2C38FF89F04656C145B534A279122?id=09000d5d802e9cf2&template=without-video&confirm=true

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow - I sounded a lot like Lisa in the 5:06 post huh?

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, if that's how you roll, that's AOK by me. I just figure I need to give attribution (plus their charts and graphics are cool). In the words of the immortal chRIs Larry, whateves. [btw F chRIs Larry.]

In other Big Media reporting, I have more poop to report in my pants. Its this article about Martz. Plenty of blah blah blah around these parts about Saunders' fabled 700 page playbook, but Martz has two playbooks: one for plays and one for formations. POOOP!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=wickersham_seth&id=3048727

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Didn't think it was possible...

The NFL replaced wood benches with aluminium for durability and safety for its players. B Lloyd developes a case of Metal A$$ Splinters from sitting for that past 2 seasons.

Posted by: Dislexic Dex #72 | October 4, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

We need a win this weekend.
The Kool-Aid pitcher is getting a little low.

Posted by: COskins | October 4, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Mostly Invisible - a ditty for the Receiver
(with thanks to Robert Palmer)

How can it be permissible
He compromise my principles, yeah yeah
That hate is kind of mythical
He's anything but typical

He's a craze Vinny'd endorse, he's feeble force
You're obligated to diverge when there's no other course
He used to look to someone but now I find him
Mostly Invisible, Mostly Invisible

His play is so powerful, huh?
It's simply unavoidable
The trend is irreversible
The man is erasable

He's a natural law, and he leaves me in awe
He deserves the guffaws, I surrender because
He used to look good to someone, but now I find him
Mostly Invisible, Mostly Invisible

Mostly Invisible (He's super smart, there's not tellin' where the money went)
Mostly Invisible (He's all ours, until we let him go)

Posted by: sfskin | October 4, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Uh, I realize you're dyslexic so I want to put this gently, but FLloyd wasn't riding the aluminium pine last season, he was in the games. I hesitate to use the word "playing," but nonetheless he was out there most of the time (15 games). It's only this season that he's been relegated to the bench and beyond.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 4, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Nice SF

Posted by: Skinz | October 4, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

5:12pm YouTube, there's another difference btwn Betts' stuff run and Portis' TD, which is the location of the safety playing contain. Betts needed to decide in a split second whether there would be room on the left. In Portis' TD, Yoder had the safety's outside shoulder rather than his inside one.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

COskins, you're right... thanks to the bye it will have been three long weeks between our last victory and kickoff against the Leos. That's an eternity in fubbal season.

But I have a feeling the pitcher of Kool-Aid will be nice and full by noon (Eastern) on Sunday. We had our reality check two weeks ago, so the Kool-Aid isn't quite as sweet as it was before, but it's still gonna turn our teeth purple.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 4, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Mr. in the PDX is correct. Last season, ARE and Lloyd were open all the time, but they were downfield and not named Moss so Brunell never threw to them.

Nate, I had some loser talk for you at the end of the "Injuries" thread.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I assume somebody has posted this somewhere on the RI at least once. But here is the masterpiece of Mostly Invisible.

It really is all about the $ apparently. Oh and he sucks as a "rapper" too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAgbqeNOvsw

Posted by: sfskin | October 4, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

So I guess this means Senator Craig can't change his, um, stance.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071004/ap_on_go_co/craig_senate;_ylt=AmafXbSe3rD8BNhWMx51KPKs0NUE

Posted by: 4-12 | October 4, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Analysis please.

It seems to me that AEL would be a better fit at flanker (z), given his smaller size, speed and quickness, than the much larger, older (read, slower) Thrash. I like 83, but man this guy is so old I remember when sent BMitch to the bench as a return specialist in the mid-90's.

Posted by: RambleOn | October 4, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Okay I'll try to make this the last one about Mostly Invisible - it's been building up for a couple days.

Here is a video from the preseason game where he caught a TD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URH67FUmvpU

To sum up the obvious irony, it's shot from the nosebleeds on the other side of the field so you can't even see it, thus he remains Mostly Invisible. . . .

Posted by: sfskin | October 4, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

RambleOn, previous thread starting around 1:15pm.

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I spoke with my imaginary NFL executive friend, the one that avoids the rides at Six Flags. Here is some of the transcript.

"So Cha*li*, what do you think about Lloyd's shin-dig?"

"Ahh. Look. We did our work on the guy and he reminded of us of something Napoleon, the general said to his foreign minister. "You are nothing but a silk suit stuffed with sh*t. Fragile. Indurable. And not to mention a content free huddle monger."

"Anyone want him?"

"Jezzus! I'd rather wrestle a pigeon for a french fry every morning than have to drive into the club and see him gimpin' and primpin'. That said, maybe Oakland."

There you have it!

Posted by: erthdog | October 4, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

In the 5:12 video, Yoder had both shoulders wrapped up - otherwise known as "holding".

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Al Saunders on Lloyd, Brandon.

"Brandon Lloyd has been backing up at the X receiver position and he has been working hard to get on the field. He's a talented guy that had Antwaan move ahead of him, and now he's the backup receiver at that position.

"We'd love him to make plays and have some opportunities to catch the ball. We're not a dominant passing football team right now. We run the football, and we take some shots up the field.

"We run our offense in a way that we don't use four wide receiver sets and we don't use a lot of three wide receiver sets. So the opportunity for those positions are limited.

"When Brandon gets an opportunity to make a play, then he has to make that play."

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=29827

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, sween. Scanned this thread to see if the topic had been brought up and didn't see it. I'll check out the old one.

Posted by: RambleOn | October 4, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Ugh! It's not "most coaches" Joe. It's just you.

"Joe Gibbs and Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz come from the Don Coryell coaching tree, but you would never know it looking at how they both run their offenses.

Gibbs is fairly conservative, emphasizing the run game. Martz throws caution to the wind, often using four wide receiver sets.

"What was always amazing about Don is he was creative and will try anything--change the snap count and do stuff like that," Gibbs said. "Mike is probably a lot like that. He's not afraid to try something different, do something different.

"Whereas most coaches--we're much more paranoid than that. We're afraid to try something like that. You have to know when you go up against him you're going to be tested because they do a real good job in what they do." "

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=29858

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

F loser talk, sween! Even if it's coming from me!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 4, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

sfskin.. I think I was sitting in the section at the giants game... way to knock my seats.

Thought this was funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L82dkFeVHs&NR=1

On another note:

Anyone still want to trade Rocky for Briggs? I think they made the right call on that one. Give the FO some credit.

Posted by: Dorf | October 4, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Dorf - No credit to the FO for that one. All credit goes to the Bears for not settling for just a swap of picks and wanted Rocky in exchange. If they would have accpeted the swap then the trade would have been made.

Why am I feeling so negative today?

***2005 Steelers***
***2007 Cats(for you kost)***

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"When you face that style of offense, with four or five receivers going out on routes, that does leave the quarterback open to pressures and sacks if the routes are covered up," Fletcher said. "But that's big emphasis on 'if.'

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Anyone still want to trade Rocky for Briggs? I think they made the right call on that one. Give the FO some credit.

Posted by: Dorf | October 4, 2007 06:03 PM

Amen. Remember that we would have lost the pick (L2) as part of the deal. I wouldn't trade Rocky for Briggs straight up at this point.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 4, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

There are plenty of things to dawg coaching staff about: The blacklisting of B. Lloyd ain't one of'em.......

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 4, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Portis and Steve Jackson both on my fantasy team...i almost had a heart attack when Portis was said to be QUESTIONABLE

Posted by: Ryan Clark | October 4, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I like the new name "Floyd"

punk is getting Lavared.

Posted by: Dorf | October 4, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget we're going to beat the Lions cause I said so. Pop that in your pipe and smoke it and then take it to the bank. But not a crack pipe cause crack is whack.

Posted by: sfskin | October 4, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

My detailed prediction for this weekend's game. Wait for it....wait for it....


This game is too close to call. Redskins win.

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Get Lloyd out of there. The one thing a winning team does is to get rid of guys who don't play hard. Can't imagine that many Skins players like seeing this guy out there going thru the motions and collecting a paycheck. Getting rid of Lloyd is addition by subtraction. Every player will think more highly of Gibbs too!!

Posted by: AL | October 4, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Even if we somehow happen to lose this game we've got some games on our schedule now that were originally chalked up as losses that I am now considering wins.

My official prediction is 11-5.

Even if we get swept by the Girls I have us winning against the Packers (yes the Packers SJKit), Cardinals, Jets, Eagles again, Bucs, Bills, Bears, Giants and Vikings. If we win this weekend that prediction goes to 12-4.

Write it down, take a picture. I don't give a SJK.

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Lions 37 Redskins 17

Posted by: The Predictor | October 4, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Bring me back!

Posted by: Marty | October 4, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Blog proposal:

We retire "SJK" and replace it with "Floyd"

Posted by: 4-12 | October 4, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

4-12, I don't want to reference Lloyd any more than necessary.

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't get why everyone bashes LLoyd. I know he is making RIDIC money...but only 2 passes have been thrown in his direction this season. AND HE CAUGHT 1 of them. It was later taken back with a holding penalty. But jessus christ...what the hell else is he supposed to do. He hasn't missed practice until yesterday...i was at training camp and he looks twice as strong and filled out then he did last year. its just too bad. With moss out this could have been his shot...oh well...i feel bad for him. Yes he has money but this is his profession,...noone wants to be the scape goat for an entire franchise. I guess every year the organization picks one person to make an example of... pretty missed up if you ask me. And for noone else to EVER comment on that is pretty messed up.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Indeed bigfish. That could end up being to much Floyding.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 4, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Interesting fact. We are tied for 1st in the league with the least amount of TD's given up and the Lions are last in the league with TD's given up. Yes there is a 1 game difference there but we have given up 4 (2 rush, 2 rec) and the Lions have given up 16.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=&seasonType=REG

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Sorry 6:44 was me.

Posted by: Vinny Cerrato | October 4, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Floyd anon at 6:44.

I'm getting the Floyd out of here.

bigfish- Yup, definitely doesn't work. SJK

Posted by: 4-12 | October 4, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

This is two years old but if anyone can read it and not get sick to your stomach then you are a better man than I.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/10/AR2005081002181.html

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

bigfish
Do you know anything about football? Do you pay attention at all? Do you constantly hav your head up your ass? Your predictions are retarded! Even when Detroit loses they score 30,even with Moss this offense cant get to 24,Portis is OFFICIALLY washed up(get use to it)The Defense has holes and leaks alot!

Posted by: Redskins SB2015 | October 4, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

ITA

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

We're 2-1 folks!!! I wonder what Norv is saying ou there...

Norv (simulate eating a ham sandwich): "Well we were a big play away from pulling that game out. We've got some good football players here."

Posted by: sicwidit | October 4, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Go Indians! F the Yankees!!

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone gonna watch the premiere of "Sanford and Son" tonight?

Posted by: sicwidit | October 4, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

RedskinsSB2015,

Take it easy there patner. Argue all you want, but please refrain from calling names. We hear you. Besides, jm220 may have to bring the wood, and I know you don't want any part of that!

Posted by: cosmofla | October 4, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

RedskinsSB2015,

Let's hear your take on the game. Are you suggesting the Lions are going to win? C'mon man, bring it.

Posted by: cosmofla | October 4, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh sween,

"Matt: Is TJ Duckett going to play soon, or do you some him being inactive the majority of the games like he was last year at Washington?


Tom Kowalski: My guess at this point is that Duckett will probably be active if he's healthy. If Kevin Jones gets gassed and the Lions are on the goal line, they'll want Duckett running behind Jon Bradley. With Brian Calhoun on IR, it gives the Lions a little more flexibility. The other issue is injuries to other positions and whether the Lions can spare that "fourth'' running back. Remember, Aveion Cason will likely be active to return kickoffs."

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2007/10/answering_emails_will_duckett.html

Posted by: bigfish | October 4, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato, I agree with you about Lloyd. Really sick of hearing everyone bellyache about him not making plays when he can't get on the field.

Posted by: Lisa | October 4, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

this makes me want to puke

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

this makes me want to poop

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Grilliams, when it was noted at today's media session that there would be tall receivers coming to town:

"All receivers, no matter how tall you are, end up being the same height when you smack 'em."

Sorry jm220. I love Grilliams.

Let's hope for lots of smacking on Sunday.

Posted by: JustMe | October 4, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

beep beep!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 4, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

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