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Portis says he'll play again -- somewhere

Redskins running back Clinton Portis said Tuesday that while he doesn't believe the concussion that ended his season will end his career, his time in Washington may well be up after this season because the team, a disappointment at 4-9, will likely undergo significant changes.

"I can't sit and tell you I want my career to be over here," Portis said at FedEx Field, where he helped distribute holiday gifts as part of the Redskins' contribution to the U.S. Marine Corps's "Toys for Tots" program. "But at the same time, you got to understand the business side of things. I've been here for six years, and we went to the playoffs twice. I think Mr. [Daniel] Snyder, with the pressure that's on him with the organization, probably going to have to make changes. For everything that go on, I'm to blame, so why wouldn't I be the change?"

Portis suffered a concussion at the end of a run Nov. 8 at Atlanta, and has not played since. Last week, when additional tests showed he still had lingering symptoms, the Redskins placed him on season-ending injured reserve. He had not spoken with reporters since the incident, but said, "I don't think for one second it's going to be career-ending," despite the fact the NFL and its teams have started to take much closer looks at concussions, Portis said.

He also said, though, that he wouldn't be surprised if his career continued elsewhere.
"I think as long as I'm healthy, man, I'm not worried about playing anywhere in the NFL," Portis said. "I feel like I am going to compete and will compete at a high level anywhere I am. I would love to be here. I'm grateful of everything this organization done for me. At the same time, it's just understanding the business side of things. I could be selfish and say, 'Oh, man, look at my production, look what I've done.' But we don't have anything to show for my production. So if it happened, it happened, and I can understand that."

Portis said he thought he might be cleared to play in last week's game against Oakland, but he could not pass the final test -- which involved testing his vision by using goggles. He still has some problems with his right eye, he said, which has to work too hard to get focused, particularly at night. He said he was comfortable with the diagnosis.

"I would love to play, but at the same time I don't think when you got the opportunity to play again next year and in the years to come, why risk it?" he said. "I think this is a first-time thing. Is it scary? Of course. At the time that it happened, I wanted to continue playing in the Falcons game. You go back and see what happened and see that I land on the field motionless and all of a sudden you see the side effects of what's going on, I think it's more how they scare you, the conversation from the outside world. 'Oh, man, this could happen, this could happen.'

"At the same time, what's going to happen's going to happen. I think God puts you in situations. If it was meant to happen, no matter how healthy I think I am, if it's going to happen and I get hit again, it's going to happen."

Portis said whether second-year coach Jim Zorn returns to the Redskins will have no bearing on how he feels about his future in Washington.

"I feel like whether he [is] here or not, I would love to come back to this team, but that choice isn't mine," Portis said. "I think Coach Zorn would love to be here as well, but that choice isn't his. So I think you see guys going out and playing for Coach Zorn, guys giving everything they got. Whether he [is] here, whether I'm here, I think this organization got to do what's best for them. Me and Coach Zorn and whoever else have got to leave this organization got to know we got another opportunity to continue our career, and hopefully it works out on that end."

Zorn on ARE

Jim Zorn discussed the matter of using Antwaan Randle El on punt returns, Dan Steinberg of the D.C. Sports Bog reports.

By Barry Svrluga  |  December 15, 2009; 1:15 PM ET
 
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Yawn. We'll get along fine without him.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 15, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Translation: "I ain't renegotiatin' my $7.2 mil cap figure next year"

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 15, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Why he doesn't just shut his mouth at times, I'll never know.

You weren't playing well to begin with... you got hurt... you were IR'd, your seasons over.... Just go away and come back next season with a f___ing boulder on your shoulder!

Posted by: RedDMV | December 15, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't think so....

To me...The translation is:

"I'm a man. Thanks for all the $$ you gave me. And I am not like LaVar who will burn a bridge."

Thoughts?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, all that yakking about 'it's business' is loaded. When it comes time to renegotiate his contract, he has all the leverage.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 15, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

This week looks like the week of JReid crow eating.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Whether Portis returns or not has everything to do with the dotted i's and crossed t's in his contract -- and virtually nothing to do with his health or ability.

Snyder wants to get out of paying Portis $7+million -- and Portis would love the $7+million.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 15, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

rypien11

"..there doesn't seem to be much out there in FA or in the draft in terms of centers. Might have to have rabach for another year."

edvar

"Wouldn't mind Edwin Williams getting a shot at Center. That's what he played in College (MD)."


What about Rabach v. Rhinehart v. Williams?

We got options if M Williams is signed to play guard.

The vet playing for his life against two young'ns is the kind of embarassment of riches situation you kinda hope for.

Rhinehart will heal, rehab all spring, and realize the guard spot is taken.

Williams has had a taste of game day, shown promise, and is hungry enough to take what isn't his.

This is what makes teams stronger: good-natured competition.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Since portis like running his mouth about the organization all the time..why don't he just fuss up that he gave up on this team and the organization. Tell the truth Portis!

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

True...He does posses all the leverage..

Which means he'll be here for the next 3 years on a new contract.

And Zorn won't.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

First of all, with no salary cap next year, Portis won't be pressured to renegotiate his contract. They'll keep him here, pay the 7.2 million and hope he's productive. If he's not, he's gone in 2011. Synder isn't going to eat that kind of cash for a player who can still possibly contribute next year. If it wasn't guaranteed, he'd be gone, but since it is, he'll be around. All this talk from CP is just him feeling sorry for himself. That's all.

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 15, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter's competition

Jared Allen 40 TOTAL 33 SOLO 7 AST 12.5 SACKS 1 SAFETY 5 PASS DEF 1 INT 3 FF 2 FC 1 TD

Andre Carter 57 TOTAL 45 SOLO 12 AST 11.0 SACKS 3 FF

Will Smith 37 TOTAL 24 SOLO 13 AST 10.0 SACKS 4 PASS DEF 1 INT 3 FF

Trent Cole 48 TOTAL 39 SOLO 9 AST 9.5 SACKS 2 FF

Julius Peppers 35 TOTAL 29 SOLO 6 AST 8.5 SACKS 4 PASS DEF 1 INT 1 TD 5 FF

Darnell Dockett 46 TOTAL 37 SOLO 9 AST 7.0 SACKS 3 PASS DEF 1 INT

Ray Edwards 42 TOTAL 35 SOLO 7 AST 6.5 SACKS 1 FF 1 FR

Jared Allen is a lock and AC should be as well. AC has amassed a ton of tackles as well as sacks.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

If Portis retired would he still get paid? I can't see him saying this without there being some contract stipulation in mind. I don't know if Portis can be productive next season or not, and if the team is on the hook for his pay either way, then I guess I would rather he talk of coming back. Of course, he will need to work for it and I don't know if Portis will. He's got to face the fact that he won't be a speedster ever again. If he is going to continue to succeed he has to resolve himself to the fact that he will be making his pay by running between the tackles. The best thing for Portis would be to get those bone spurs taken care of and then start trying to pack on as much muscle as possible. Maybe he can become a short yardage specialist - or even a fullback.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 15, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Notes from Mr. Portis,

"I feel like whether he [is] here or not, I would love to come back to this team, but that choice isn't mine," Portis said. "I think Coach Zorn would love to be here as well, but that choice isn't his."

Read between the lines?

He knows what we suspect: there are going to be a lot of changes to a team that seems like it's just starting to get it's game right.

Oh well,..........

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, all that yakking about 'it's business' is loaded. When it comes time to renegotiate his contract, he has all the leverage.

Posted by: mattsoundworld

That's with EVERY proffesional athlete. CP will be back next year healthy and will put up another 1400 yards

Posted by: dcwun | December 15, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Re-sign Levi move him to RT, Re-sign Campell, LoAlex, Rogers, Ganther, Mason. Sign a FS and a SLB. Draft a LT round 1, a speed back round 2, a center round 4, a tackle and WR late for depth and ARE replacement. Give CP training camp and preseason to see if he's healthy, if not cut him and role with Ganther, Mason, and the 2nd rounder. Simple and most effectively plugs the holes. Then start worrying about QB next year.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 15, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Now only if our FO would just do this. We would be a playoff team next year, but noooooo, we want a F ing QB. I hate this owner and GM.

Posted by: FedorEm | December 15, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Portis, I really hope you make a comeback and return back to this team nxt yr. Nobody should forget what Portis has done for this organization. There has been some games where dis dude has put us on his back. PORTIS FAN 4 Life!

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

If it is an uncapped year then at least it won't hurt the salary cap to release CP and several others. Randy T, Chris S, Cornilius, maybe Ladell.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 15, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Since portis like running his mouth about the organization all the time..why don't he just fuss up that he gave up on this team and the organization. Tell the truth Portis!

Posted by: taylormade218

Dude, please. So playing injured and getting a concussion is giving up on your team? I guess Cooley, Samuels, Thomas, etc did the same....

Posted by: dcwun | December 15, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I could see a scenario where he makes his $7.2 next season and then we let him go.

In order for him to renegotiate, he'd have to give up $7.2 in one year to get, what? $10 to $14 over 3?

IF the stars align and 2010 is uncapped, then I say just eat the bad contract then. Otherwise, you are basically paying your backup RB what amounts to $4 mil a season.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 15, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

First of all, with no salary cap next year, Portis won't be pressured to renegotiate his contract. They'll keep him here, pay the 7.2 million and hope he's productive. If he's not, he's gone in 2011. Synder isn't going to eat that kind of cash for a player who can still possibly contribute next year. If it wasn't guaranteed, he'd be gone, but since it is, he'll be around. All this talk from CP is just him feeling sorry for himself. That's all.

I agree.. sometimes CP like a baby!!

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter's competition

Jared Allen 40 TOTAL 33 SOLO 7 AST 12.5 SACKS 1 SAFETY 5 PASS DEF 1 INT 3 FF 2 FC 1 TD

Andre Carter 57 TOTAL 45 SOLO 12 AST 11.0 SACKS 3 FF

Will Smith 37 TOTAL 24 SOLO 13 AST 10.0 SACKS 4 PASS DEF 1 INT 3 FF

Trent Cole 48 TOTAL 39 SOLO 9 AST 9.5 SACKS 2 FF

Julius Peppers 35 TOTAL 29 SOLO 6 AST 8.5 SACKS 4 PASS DEF 1 INT 1 TD 5 FF

Darnell Dockett 46 TOTAL 37 SOLO 9 AST 7.0 SACKS 3 PASS DEF 1 INT

Ray Edwards 42 TOTAL 35 SOLO 7 AST 6.5 SACKS 1 FF 1 FR

Jared Allen is a lock and AC should be as well. AC has amassed a ton of tackles as well as sacks.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 1:35 PM

Darnell Dockett is a tackle, I think.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 15, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Moe + ZJFR2 - centers - Justin Walton from Baylor or Matt Tenant (BC) in round 4?

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 15, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The stupid ARE anwser today is why Zorn should go, he makes no mention of the punt where ARE gave up 20 yards in field position by not catching the ball.

Other teams use young guys on punts thats the way it is there not scared to do it.

I guess the philly fans should be thankful Zorn doesn't coach there, or Desean Jackson would not have a punt return.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 15, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

eat the $7mill Danny boy, he should be waived. Guy plays his heart out and has done tons for us, but he's a rb with a ton of mileage and a serious concussion.

young legs at that position, please.

even if the team finishes 7-9, the season sucked and was a failure. gotta flush many guys on offense to make way for younger players.

bye-bye to sellers, portis, ARE, randy thomas....

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Dockett plays inside, so that just gives Carter one less end to compete against.

He won't make the original roster, but will squeeze in as an alternate due to the fact Minnesota will be playing the next week in the SuperBowl.

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 15, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Darnell Dockett is a tackle, I think.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 15, 2009 1:41 PM

Was in at FSU. Plays DE @ zona.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'll always admire Portis. He gave it up for the team on the field. He added weight and changed his style to fit in. But by now he doesn't seem to hit the hole fast enough. He's become too patient. Maybe it was just the line not blocking. But the real effective backs seem to be ones who hit the hole fast.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 15, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Since portis like running his mouth about the organization all the time..why don't he just fuss up that he gave up on this team and the organization. Tell the truth Portis!

Posted by: taylormade218

Dude, please. So playing injured and getting a concussion is giving up on your team? I guess Cooley, Samuels, Thomas, etc did the same....

Posted by: dcwun | December 15, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm taking about before he got injured. It seem to me he gave up in week 2. I don't know..It just seem like the dude was never focus for this season.

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Portis has produced for years too and that hasn't stopped you from wanting him banished from Ashburn either.

Keep CC and Davis. Having Depth is not a bad thing.

Posted by: dcwun | December 15, 2009 1:31 PM |
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And CP is relevant to Wilbon's idiotic comments re Davis being better than Cooley how?

Save your contrarian remarks for someone who's interested, meathead.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 15, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I love CP and appreciate the effort he plays with, but I think it's time we got someone in who can actually say a grammatically correct sentence in English.

Posted by: RIP-21 | December 15, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Darnell Dockett is a tackle, I think.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 15, 2009 1:41 PM

Was in at FSU. Plays DE @ zona.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 1:45 PM

Zona runs a 3-4 D.

DE- C. Campbell
NT- K. Iwebema
DE- D. Dockett

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is Ganther able to produce better running yards behind the same make-shift line.

Ganther is Hungry...Portis is full

dump him

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 15, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Why is Ganther able to produce better running yards behind the same make-shift line.

Ganther is Hungry...Portis is full

dump him

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 15, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I'll always admire Portis. He gave it up for the team on the field. He added weight and changed his style to fit in. But by now he doesn't seem to hit the hole fast enough. He's become too patient. Maybe it was just the line not blocking. But the real effective backs seem to be ones who hit the hole fast.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 15, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse


Right, he just look different this yr. Don't get me wrong I know our line was garage in the begin, but Portis just wasn't running the way he use too.

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"Having Depth is not a bad thing."


That's what she said.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Right, he just look different this yr. Don't get me wrong I know our line was garage in the begin, but Portis just wasn't running the way he use too.


Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Not to take shots, but did one of my 7th graders sneak in and type that reply for you?

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 15, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Portis, I really hope you make a comeback and return back to this team nxt yr. Nobody should forget what Portis has done for this organization. There has been some games where dis dude has put us on his back. PORTIS FAN 4 Life!

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse


AMEN, people are so easy to spit venomous hatred. Cant believe how this guy quite on us, i mean cmon he cant focus at night put the helmet back on and run yourself back into the ground right now.
Dude completely changed his style adding weight and pusinshimg himself physically for the betterment of the Skins now he has a bad season because we gave him NO carries he had the worst of our O-line and people say he quite. Keep in mind the only decent game LB had we gave him the ball like 25+ times against Denver.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 15, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Darnell Dockett is a tackle, I think.

Posted by: skinfanman | December 15, 2009 1:41 PM

Paging 4thFloor....paging 4thFloor...

Posted by: 4-12 | December 15, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Mista Moe, any chance you might be up in the D.C. circa next Monday night?

Posted by: dcsween | December 15, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Not to take shots, but did one of my 7th graders sneak in and type that reply for you?

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 15, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Let talk football geek! And not correct my spelling and grammer! It's a FB blogs..relax!!

And, if you are a teacher or whateva.. Should you be focusing on teaching a lesson then on here...

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Right, he just look different this yr. Don't get me wrong I know our line was garage in the begin, but Portis just wasn't running the way he use too.


Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Not to take shots, but did one of my 7th graders sneak in and type that reply for you?

Posted by: rich20ssu

As a frequent ofender of the Engrish langauge on thiz blog, I laffed at ur commennt

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 15, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse


Portis, I really hope you make a comeback and return back to this team nxt yr. Nobody should forget what Portis has done for this organization. There has been some games where dis dude has put us on his back. PORTIS FAN 4 Life!

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse


AMEN, people are so easy to spit venomous hatred. Cant believe how this guy quite on us, i mean cmon he cant focus at night put the helmet back on and run yourself back into the ground right now.
Dude completely changed his style adding weight and pusinshimg himself physically for the betterment of the Skins now he has a bad season because we gave him NO carries he had the worst of our O-line and people say he quite. Keep in mind the only decent game LB had we gave him the ball like 25+ times against Denver.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 15, 2009 2:00 PM

rich20ssu-

You may need to take a roll call, it would appear that another one of your students has escaped.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The man ran for 1400 yards last year. This year our line all got injured, Portis was injured, and at the beginning of the season the playcalling sucked. No one respected our pass at the beginning of the year, so teams stacked the box and shut him down. Also this is not the same line that Portis played behind, the line didnt start to play decent until right before Portis was injured. I say he has earned another season to see if he still has something left in the tank. We have to pay him anyway and I think next year he will rush for at least 1200 yards. For the fans who think he is selfish, you obviously dont watch the game-Portis is probably one the best blocking running backs in the game, he injured his shoulder tackling a defender in PRESEASON. Those are not the actions of a selfish player. Personally I love watching Portis play because on Sundays he leaves it all on the field. Again as for me he has earned another season to see if he still has it. If he doesnt then we move on after next season.

Posted by: hudginsc | December 15, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

As a frequent ofender of the Engrish langauge on thiz blog, I laffed at ur commennt

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 15, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse


..lol

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 15, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

moe's a Florida cat....oh and hope your lawn gets infested with grubs moe, 38 friggin degrees here...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

... "But at the same time, you got to understand the business side of things. I've been here for six years, and we went to the playoffs twice. I think Mr. [Daniel] Snyder, with the pressure that's on him with the organization, probably going to have to make changes. For everything that go on, I'm to blame, so why wouldn't I be the change?" ...

I can't tell whether he is assigning the "blame" to his low numbers prior to the concussion, or some manufactured concern about what the team was left with after the concussion. Sure SEEMS like things got better once Betts became the starter (and has kept pace since Betts went down). I don't fully understand Portis-speak ... shows that he learned a lot from Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: dcsween | December 15, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

So much easier to point out grammatical errors then actually defend or make or qualify your short sighted stupid lazy opinions on FB. Im sure there are some more mistakes in this as well, blast away. I bet you also want to trade CC and get Spiller with the first pick. bunch a dbags

Posted by: Stu27 | December 15, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I also appreciate what Portis has done for the Skins during his career here. Unlike a big chunk of the roster, however, he has been more than adequately compensated, so expectations for high levels of performance are more than reasonable, esp., compared to the comparatively less well compensated guys who practice during the week.

Posted by: dcsween | December 15, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If your grandma cheats on your grandpa, would that be a grammatical error or a grampatical error?

Posted by: dcsween | December 15, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

is it me, or does this just reek of portis not being able to handle being out of the spotlight.....I like cp, and appreciate what he's done, but get yourself in shape, and come back healed up next year....don't sell the team, the coach, the owner, or the fans short by sitting on your backside, and doing nothing....he needs to go back and read the comments he made after ST's passing, about his passion for football...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

So ARE still returns punts because of Zoron's comfort level. Same reason the young guys were not playing. Fire this idiot already.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | December 15, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

One thing I did notice at the begining of the season was the Offense trying the zone stretch running play alot. Seems to at the beginning of the year they were trying to run wco zone blocking and it didnt work. It seems to me the offense went back to drive blocking and that had alot to do with improving the running game as well. Even the past few weeks whenever the offense calls a play involving zone blocking our backs get shut down. I am sure someone will say I am totally wrong but this is just what I have observed.

Posted by: hudginsc | December 15, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"So much easier to point out grammatical errors then actually defend or make or qualify your short sighted stupid lazy opinions on FB"

Pardon me, but do you know where you are? This is RI - that's sort of required.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 15, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

He(CPo)'s saying that in order for the team to do well, someone had to take the blame. It ended up being him. He begruddgingly accepts that.

As soon as he can play again, he will.

There's no way any of our RBs could have taken the beating he did over the last two seasons and been productive. Betts died in two games (not even).

The investment in Portis was ridiculous given that we didn't invest in the other aspects of the team that build the running game. Perhpas playing the speed rcvrs earlier (2nd half last season?), even if they didn't know the routes, could have opened up the running game a bit more, too. It certainly has now.

Sucks that our highest paid player had to be a sacrificial lamb on this team. But it's the only thing that worked.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 15, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

mike sellers is terrible (awesome we just paid him) and that had a negative effect on the run game along with the sham oline.

notice how much better yoder is at fullback than sellers?

gotta waive a bunch of players

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"Portis said he thought he might be cleared to play in last week's game against Oakland, but he could not pass the final test -- which involved testing his vision by using goggles."

==========================================

I am just glad they gave him the "wrong" goggles and kept him out of playing last week.

Posted by: JohnWWW | December 15, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't care about the grammatical skills of a RB on my favorite team , nor do I care about them on RI.

Running Backs run. Bloggers blog. Save the red pen crap for your 3rd period English class.

Gawd some of you are the most... f it. You're just the friggin' most....

Posted by: RedDMV | December 15, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

ARE letting a punt bounce off his nose was really comforting......I was in a total state of euphoria when that happened.

As for all the blame on JC17, just stop. If we hadn't have been clobbering the Raiders that mistake he made could have lost that game.

Put in a young guy who never touches the ball to be the PR.There are guys on the roster dying for just a chance to touch the ball and make a house call.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 15, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

How badly does a player have to tail off for some of you to cut the cord? Portis has been one of the Redskins' best players of all-time. He was a warrior who would play injured and sacrifice his body. I respect him for that. We all should.

But players -- especially runningbacks -- don't last long in the NFL. This league isn't about what you did for your team: it's about what you are doing now. Portis led the NFL in carries at more than once under Joe Gibbs. He has rushed for a ton of yards over the course of his career, to the point that he is one of the league's all-time leading rushers (in the top 20, I think). How long did you think he would keep performing at a high level?

Many of you talk about Portis rushing for 1400 yards last season. Answer this: how many yards did he rush for after Week 8 last year?

Why do you think he clearly lacked a second gear this season, and seems to be unable to juke anyone anymore?

You want him to come back healthy and see how he does next year? How many RBs can you name in their late 20s with chronic bone spurs who can't practice every day who eventually experienced a comeback year? Teams can't afford to make decisions based on sentimentality or warm feelings for a particular player -- they have to look at production and play the odds.

Sometimes, NFL teams get it wrong when they let a guy go because they judge him to be washed up. But most of the time, they get it right. It's almost always better to give up on a starter too soon than to wait too long.

Posted by: jcabana | December 15, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

mike sellers is terrible (awesome we just paid him) and that had a negative effect on the run game along with the sham oline.

notice how much better yoder is at fullback than sellers?

gotta waive a bunch of players

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it but this is true. CP26 started to get in trouble once he brought up this point to the coaches.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 15, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"[Justin Tryon] hasn't shown yet that I would trust him and go Yeah, let's get him in right now. He hasn't worked at it from that standpoint of decision making, sure catching. Now, he should be working at it, which he is, but we haven't felt the comfort level"

I mean, you can't make this stuff up...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Zorn quote on El-

"As a coach, you've just got to have the comfort level. That's why I had Antwaan in there. You know, I had a comfort level, and it proved to be a little of a backfire, but that doesn't' mean he's not gonna catch the next 10 in a row. It's just at that particular moment, it was a bad deal."

Huh?

Let's do the math.
El- averaging 3.9 ypr- season long is 15
El- 3 fumbles
El- countless "non catches" that have cost countless hidden yardage
El- Fair catch machine- 18 FC's vs. 15 returns

Zorn- "but that doesn't' mean he's not gonna catch the next 10 in a row."

Huh?

El is proving that "catching" is something he shouldn't be trusted to do.

"Catching" is an important part of returning punts but the position is called punt returner not punt catcher.

Hide El’s helmet or better yet put him on the IR. His hands are broken and so is Zorn’s brain.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"...any chance you might be up in the D.C. circa next Monday night?"

Naw.

And trust me, I'd love to be at the game.

But it's 72 degrees and sunny here.

I'm planting flowers this Saturday morning.

I'm not going anywhere.

My alcoholic brother-in-law lives in New Carrollton and has season tickets.

He gets drunk, has a death defying drive to the game, and then comes home sober.

I keep telling him he's got to switch up his routine.

How else am I going to get his tickets?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

red, thanks, for the record, I think you're the most...the most bama poster here on RI...so there..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I may not care about grammer...

...But I DO CARE about weather a golfer I follow cheats on his wife and cheats on the american game of Gulf by taking steriods (Alledgedly on all fronts)...

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 15, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

You want him to come back healthy and see how he does next year? How many RBs can you name in their late 20s with chronic bone spurs who can't practice every day who eventually experienced a comeback year? Teams can't afford to make decisions based on sentimentality or warm feelings for a particular player -- they have to look at production and play the odds.

Sometimes, NFL teams get it wrong when they let a guy go because they judge him to be washed up. But most of the time, they get it right. It's almost always better to give up on a starter too soon than to wait too long.

Posted by: jcabana | December 15, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

That LT cat sure had a terrible season this year after previous disappointing and injury filled seasons.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 15, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

El is an established vet who doesnt think he should be returning punts and has done everything in his power to get the coaches to yank him. How many fair catches can one returner make?

but there's some weird thing going on where zorn isnt going to let him off the hook on the responsibility (he was brought here to do it, in part)

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

...Zorn's brain is broke... lmao... huhuhu

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 15, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

If your grandma cheats on your grandpa, would that be a grammatical error or a grampatical error?

Posted by: dcsween |

If you visualize it, that would be your error ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 15, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

eat the $7mill Danny boy, he should be waived. Guy plays his heart out and has done tons for us, but he's a rb with a ton of mileage and a serious concussion.

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Even though he has lost a step or two, CP is still the best RB the 'Skins have. The lack of production from the run game while Portis was in there had more to do with the OL than with him. And the amount of $ that the 'Skins are on the hook for for next year is north of 7.5 mil, with roster bonuses and the like. So, I would be stunned if Portis wasn't back next season.

Posted by: rbpalmer | December 15, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

But it's 72 degrees and sunny here.

I'm planting flowers this Saturday morning


may the neighborhood kids put a bag of poo on your front porch and light it on fire...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I like a player who pactices, participates in off season workouts, be prepared for the preseason and then is ready to play. All of this BS has caught up with him. He degraded his O-Line and they were tired of it and does not miss him. He needs to rebuild that bridge in order for him to be effective.

I think he'll be back next year, but I hope he catches more pases from the backfield than he has in the past. Oh yeah and one more thing Clinton. STOP BEING A DAMN DIVA!

Posted by: bigd57 | December 15, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Every football decision Jim Zorn makes turns to sh*t kind of like an anti-Midas' touch.

If Jim Zorn hadn't gone to Danny Smith to make sure ARE was back there returning punts, that fumble never happens.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 15, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Zorn quote on El-

"As a coach, you've just got to have the comfort level. That's why I had Antwaan in there. You know, I had a comfort level, and it proved to be a little of a backfire, but that doesn't' mean he's not gonna catch the next 10 in a row. It's just at that particular moment, it was a bad deal."

Huh?

Let's do the math.
El- averaging 3.9 ypr- season long is 15
El- 3 fumbles
El- countless "non catches" that have cost countless hidden yardage
El- Fair catch machine- 18 FC's vs. 15 returns

Zorn- "but that doesn't' mean he's not gonna catch the next 10 in a row."

Huh?

El is proving that "catching" is something he shouldn't be trusted to do.

"Catching" is an important part of returning punts but the position is called punt returner not punt catcher.

Hide El’s helmet or better yet put him on the IR. His hands are broken and so is Zorn’s brain.

Posted by: Diesel44

This season, if my count is correct, we've turned the ball over 4 times on punt returns (Westbrook pushed into ARE, ARE off the facemask, punt hits Barnes in the back and ARE fumbles vs OAK -- did I miss any?). All this for 4 yards -- when we return it?

So why not just put everyone on the line and try to block every punt? You'll cause a few shanks, a few blocks and occasionally, you'll get burned by a few rolls. But you won't turn it over 4 times!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 15, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

There are pieces to this team we can build around. I am optimistic about next year. Our main needs are (in no order):

1.) Sign a free safety (dawan landry) and move LL to SS..landry brothers safety combo

2.) resign Carlos and Sign veteran 3rd corner that can tackle (Ken Lucas)

3.) Move Orakpo to DE full time.. what do you do about outside LB though?
You can build around this defense the way it is now...just add this little parts to it.

On offense:
1.) resign JC17 or place a high tender on him.
2.) Draft an OT in first round.. Okung from OK State.
3.) Resign Levi Jones and move him to RT. Just use him for another year until we take another OT next year
4.) In Round 2 do you take a Guard? or do you take a Speedy RB? I say take best available player at either position.
This line obviously needs to be built through the draft..

One big question I have been asking myself is: With the production of Fred Davis and the obvious talent he has do we trade Cooley for a second and third round pick to help build our line? I am really struggling with that one.. what do you guys think?
If we did trade him for that offer we would have 2 2nd round picks and a 3rd..then you can take a guard and rb in round 2 and maybe a LB in round 3

Posted by: jeffco01 | December 15, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

That LT cat sure had a terrible season this year after previous disappointing and injury filled seasons.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 15, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

1. LT isn't even the best back on his own team anymore.

2. Comparing CP to LDT is a joke and a half. I respect CP, but he's no LDT. (I reserve LT for Lawrence Taylor.)

Posted by: jcabana | December 15, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

local sports talk radio up here interviews Brady every tuesday, and he was talking about being a team player, and a leader, and he went on and on about practicing hard, practicing when you're hurt, watching film, playing when you're hurt....Brady, 3 time superbowl champ, talking about practicing hard...CP don't get it...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

CP generally gets drilled for speaking the truth for whatever reason.

Imagine if he had laid out the mess Cooley recently did about the playcalling pyramid?

if I thought CP would be productive next year i'd want him back, but i'd rather young (cheap legs) hit the holes all preseason and may the best man win

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"[Justin Tryon] hasn't shown yet that I would trust him and go Yeah, let's get him in right now. He hasn't worked at it from that standpoint of decision making, sure catching. Now, he should be working at it, which he is, but we haven't felt the comfort level"

I mean, you can't make this stuff up...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


Zorn's a damn fool.

Again, he wants a fielder out there, that's why he keeps trotting ARE out there.

Again, playing it too conservative -- shook, scared, B*#%&, if you will. Why not put a guy back there that will oh, I don't know, live up to the RETURN aspect instead of you know, just FAIR catching them?

Zorn isn't fit to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 15, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"One big question I have been asking myself is: With the production of Fred Davis and the obvious talent he has do we trade Cooley for a second and third round pick to help build our line?"

that's a no-brainer 'YES' imo...if you could get a 2nd and 3rd

but the prevailing wisdom here seems to be 1)no one will trade for Cooley since he's hurt and 2)we're about to revolutionize the NFL with our 2 TE sets next season.

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Zorn is that his "comfort level" is "medium".

Maybe if his comfort level was somewhere closer to "excellence" he wouldn't be a lame-duck laughingstock NFL coach who got stripped of his authority, and he would bench ARE's arse!

Thanks for the memories Jim, you and your comfort level are now free to return to position coach anonymity.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

right red, so he wont give tryon a chance, but ARE fumbling, or doing nothing is a better option.....I mean, its not even logical....its not forward progress as a coach, its not even stagnancy, its regression.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Here are LDT's numbers this season to date (in his "comeback" year):

CAR 189 YDS 611 AVG 3.2 TDS 10

He's got a lot of TDs, sure. But his yardage and YPC average aren't exactly setting the world on fire.

Posted by: jcabana | December 15, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

One big question I have been asking myself is: With the production of Fred Davis and the obvious talent he has do we trade Cooley for a second and third round pick to help build our line? I am really struggling with that one.. what do you guys think?
Posted by: jeffco01 | December 15, 2009 2:49 PM

I like your plan except:
-D. Landry is a SS, Ed Reed is the all world FS
-More than likely a trade of CC would probably net a 3rd, definitively not a 2nd and 3rd. He's a keeper considering the return on trading him doesn't outweigh his value paired up with Fred.

Contrary to what Zorn has said...you can use both TEs at the same time.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

(self post)

"But it's 72 degrees and sunny here. I'm planting flowers this Saturday morning..."


Despite the weather report, life in Florida is vastly over-rated.

Our streetwalkers have diseases with English names, but they don't speak it.

Most of the weed here is grown in empty foreclosed homes.

The rich own the land near the water and drive through poor areas like tourists on a jungle safari.

Old people try to pay for their groceries at the 'Ten or Less Items' lane by going past the register eleven times.

Even then they forget why they came to the store in the first place.

There are more strip clubs and pawn shops than libraries.

Not that anyone here reads, mind you, as there are more homeless folks in the library than books.

Dumb girls down here have replaced oral sex with the handshake.

"A guy's hands might be dirty," they all say.

The police are paid better than NL short stops.

The schools don't teach, the jails are full, the churches are empty, there are no jobs, and the governor is a young dude with white hair.

But it's 72 degrees and sunny.

And from what I see going on around the country, that's better than anything found anywhere else.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Portis didn't have THIS make-shift line to run behind earlier this year. Levi wasn't playing tackle, Heyer was at the wrong tackle spot, and BMW wasn't playin guard when Portis was playing! I am not saying he hasn't lost a step, but I don't think he's done. If he actually practices and is healthy in preseason he could have another good year. He still blocks better than any RB we have too! Keep Ganther, cut Betts & Rock and get a little burner-back instead!!

Posted by: mrlowery1 | December 15, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

League exonerates Redskins in Haynesworth tampering case
Posted by Mike Florio on December 15, 2009 3:04 PM ET
When defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth signing a $100 million contract (as a practical matter, it's worth $48 million over four years) only five hours into free agency, anyone with an ounce of common sense realized it was the culmination of wink-nod-cough-fart discussions between Haynesworth and the Redskins (or something less discreet) that began before midnight on the first day of the annual signing period.

It's a common occurrence; the problem is so bad that the league is considering changing the rules regarding contact with pending free agents in order to officially permit discussions that routinely occur between agents for free agents and interested teams throughout February, culminating in a free-agent free-for-all at the Scouting Combine at the end of the month.

At to Haynesworth, the Titans regarded the tampering as sufficiently brazen to justify league intervention. Of course, the Titans never officially alleged tampering. Instead, they merely posed the question for the league to ponder. (Technically, the NFL may pursue tampering investigations without a team making a complaint.)

Though there was no clear smoking gun, the circumstantial evidence was strong. Haynesworth's agent, Chad Speck, had dinner with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder at the Scouting Combine. Because Speck already represented one player on the team (receiver Malcolm Kelly), the meeting was attributed to matters relating to Kelly, whom the team and the agent believe can be the next Andre Johnson.

But Redskins running back Rock Cartwright later said during a radio interview that Speck had been talking to the Redskins about Haynesworth before the first day of free agent.

How did Cartwright know? Kelly was telling teammates that the talks had occurred.

Then there's the reality that a nine-figure contact was negotiated from scratch in five hours, at a time when Speck was negotiating with multiple other teams, including the Buccaneers, who supposedly offered even more money than the Redskins.

Still, the league has found that the Redskins committed no tampering violations, according to Jason La Canfora of NFL.com.

It's hardly a surprise. The league rarely nails anyone for tampering, even though it happens all the time. The problem is that the league apparently is unwilling to take action unless the evidence is clear, probably because the league isn't comfortable acknowledging that teams rampantly cheat when it comes to players who are not yet free agents.

Even though most if not all of them do.

Posted by: TWISI | December 15, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Does he ever know when to shut up? Who ever said he was to blame? That is the epitome of self centered. Please leave CP.

Posted by: DCFanatic | December 15, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

OK, let's play "who are we going to dump after the season?" I vote for: Samuels to retire, get rid of Thomas, Sellers, Portis, Rabach, Rogers, Smoot, I would say Campbell, but with what is out there that we could get I don't know if we can do better. Hope Colt steps up.Stephon "ole" Heyer makes the list also. Comments?

Posted by: rmcpks73 | December 15, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

OK, let's play "who are we going to dump after the season?" I vote for: Samuels to retire, get rid of Thomas, Sellers, Portis, Rabach, Rogers, Smoot, I would say Campbell, but with what is out there that we could get I don't know if we can do better. Hope Colt steps up.Stephon "ole" Heyer makes the list also. Comments?

Posted by: rmcpks73 | December 15, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Yep, CP26 gotta go. Hopefully the next coach has the testicles to do it.

Cancer in the locker room. Distraction on the sidelines. Idiot in front of microphone or camera. No show for off season conditioning, pre-season practices and exhibition games. Excused from most regular season practices and game days.

Tiresome, boring, over the hill and a waste of a roster spot.

Get rid of this loser already!

Posted by: Vic1 | December 18, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

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