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Portis v. Sellers, One Week Later

At one point in the second quarter, running back Clinton Portis turned to fullback Mike Sellers in the huddle and gave him a high-five. Portis, who scored his first two touchdowns of the year, managed only 57 yards on 19 carries. But he appeared to have little problem interacting with Sellers, with whom he had a heated exchange last week.

Portis, who is averaging 3.7 yards per carry this year, was not available to the media afterward. Sellers declined to comment on anything -- the game, or the skirmish with his teammate.

"I guess there's a lot of us not talking," he said.

By Barry Svrluga  |  October 11, 2009; 7:00 PM ET
 
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Why

Posted by: WRBD | October 11, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Put the blame where it needs to be right not...Bad coaching and bad play by the players...the front office has nothing to do with that once the bullets fly!

Posted by: leevi98 | October 11, 2009 6:02 PM

If leevi98 leaves the house without wearing any pants, he blames the pants.

Posted by: mack1 | October 11, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Do they keep losing

Posted by: WRBD | October 11, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Let the Jim Zorn termination watch begin

Posted by Mike Florio on October 11, 2009 6:25 PM ET
With the Redskins finally managing to blow a game against a team that previously had lost every game it had played, and with "consultant" Sherm Lewis in place to absorb some of coach Jim Zorn's duties, it's not too early to start wondering when Zorn will be fired.

Early rumblings are that owner Dan Snyder is livid in the wake of Sunday's loss to the Panthers, which hardly qualifies as a surprise.

And firing Zorn won't be a surprise, either. The only question is whether Snyder wants to give Zorn a chance to beat the 0-5 Chiefs next week -- or whether Snyder realizes that firing Zorn might enhance the likelihood of doing so.

Either way, Zorn and I currently have an equal chance of being head coach of the Redskins in 2010. What remains to be seen is whether one of us will have the job next week at this time.

Posted by: snydercash4clunkers | October 11, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Mack,

Leevi also said that Cooley was out running rtes most of the game.... which isn't accurate either. His primary role today was blocking..

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 11, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

1) sellers blocking on a few plays was BEYOND bad!!
2) if you have to change your scheme on offense because a player goes down, then your depth sucks and/or the coaching sucks. Not saying there won't be a drop off but d@mn
3) the mike Williams/rhinehart deal is beyond puzzling
4) I'm so mad/disappointed/disgusted, I'm numb

Posted by: Lacantwrite | October 11, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

my 8 year-old knows you tackle low and wrap-up. Guess a multi-millionaire DB can't quite grasp that concept. Think he really cares when he goes home to his mansion and gets told it wasn't HIS fault. UFB. Pathetic performance again. This is against the previously winless Panthers btw.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 11, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse


Mack,

Leevi also said that Cooley was out running rtes most of the game.... which isn't accurate either. His primary role today was blocking..

CLEGG

At least he's diversifying his idiocy.

Posted by: mack1 | October 11, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Not a lot to talk about.

We've got the most expensive 2-3 team in the NFL.

And also the worst 2-3 team in the NFL.

A fish rots from the head. (That'd be Snyder and Ceratto, for the metaphor-impaired.)
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 11, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

So...where are all the eternal optimists now? (I'm looking for you, Pabrian2003.) Where are all those saying "well, we're only 2-3, the season is not lost yet," where are all the slurpers, where are all the apologists?

Even though 2-3 is not good, I still say it's a weak 2-3:
The 2 wins came against currently winless teams.
2 losses came against previously winless teams.
3-9 dating back to last season.
Team is averaging 14.6 points a game this season. Offense is averaging 13.2 points a game (i.e. throw out the Hunter Smith TD against Giants).
Not a single 100 yard rushing game by any back on the roster this season.
Have not scored 30 points at any time during the Zorn "era."
Campbell sacked 4 times; hurried 4 times; hit 3 times today against Carolina.

And all of this is just off the top of my head. I shudder at the idea of digging deeper into the numbers.

I agree with what others have said: this team's offense has been built from the outside in with an emphasis on skill position players over the offensive line. I think that is really the biggest weakness for the offense - and it's the worst possible weakness, especially as we march towards November and December with games in the NFC East.

Can't wait to see the soap opera that unfolds this week! It's the best entertainment us fans have right now.

Watch it burn.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 11, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Leevi also said that Cooley was out running rtes most of the game.... which isn't accurate either. His primary role today was blocking..

His blocking was worse than JC's errant throws, or Sellars blocks, or Sleepys leaps, or Halls' tackles.....
Well, not worst than Hall's missed tackle.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 11, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Ranking the Skins Offensive Problems

1. OL
2. Coach
3. RBs
4. QB
5. WRs
6. TEs

1. The OL is an easy call.

2. The playcalling has been awful, the preparation seems inadequate, the Skins rarely start games well. The bottom line is simple, Zorn is in way over his head.

3. As for the RBs, Portis is looking old and Sellers hasn't been a blocking beast. Betts may be an adequate #2, but #2 RBs aren't expected to carry the team.

4. The QB has been reasonable, considering he has a weak OL and poor playcalling. INTs and fumbles are a problem.

5 The WRs are a flawed group, since you need 3 in this league. 2 of the 3, ARE and Moss are good players that are playing well. Thomas and Kelly, however ... no. Time to try MM? Why not, the others aren't getting it done.

6. Cooley is among the better pass catching TEs, though he isn't much of a blocker, as we saw again today. Davis barely contributes.


Feel free to make your own rankings.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 11, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

LA LA LA LAme Pabrian is in hiding.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 11, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

cheer up skins fans.. We're just rooting for logo'd laundry anyway... These are just bad Cerrato and Snyder picks wearing your favorite uniforms..
Gotta hope for the upcoming labor agreement resulting in an uncapped 2010.. Then Snyder will be the Steinbrenner of the NFL.. Buying any Free Agents he wants. And thus attracting probably any Head Coach he wants. Its the most likely reason we saw no Contract extensions this year.
And in this scenario, there will be enough money to hide bad picks or recover from the same. Thats what the Yankees have...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 11, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

JC, and I never thought I would say this, is the least of our problems right now.

Really, it's too depressing to think about.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 11, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins identity post-Sonny did not revolve around the QB's, not running backs, nor even receivers. The "over-the-hill-gang" defense gave way eventually to "the hogs". The Redskins offense completely identified itself with the offensive line, first. The defense with cagey old vets that never made a mistake.
Any ***true*** fan of this franchise knows this. They know that without that "blue collar" in the trenches identity this team tends to be inconsistent and damned frustrating. To ameliorate this the team employs that original offensive line coach who first coined the identity "Hogs". Its probably partially why he is there instead of someone else?
Snyder continues to prove that, doubtless, he is his own worst enemy, co-creating the very problem he purportedly is working so tirelessly to resolve. He needs to step back and take a true owner's objective perspective.

Posted by: periculum | October 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Thats what the Yankees have...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 11, 2009 7:25 PM

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Ermmmm, the Yankees win a lot of baseball games.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder has done it again, don't you see? He fields a poor team and will "win" the offseason once again to feed the mignions their small dose of hope. He'll sell more jerseys of the next greatest player: fill-in-the-blank. Just like the rich players that flock to this team as free agents, they only care about their payday. Team is lost on them. I guarantee you D Hall will sleep like a baby tonight after enjoying a far to expensive meal, drinks etc... He won't think about his miserable attempt at tackling Jake until somoen else brings it up and he;ll have to be coached to sound upset about missing it.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 11, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Make sure to pencil in Dec.13, as two evenly matched teams, the Oakland Raiders and Washington Redskins are sure to battle right down to the final gun!!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | October 11, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Davis could of extended the arms and ball easily for that critical 1st Down in the 4th qtr... But he Fell "like a school girl"..short of the marker.
With Horton the exception...ALL of Cerrato picks are failures... (08 and 09)..
Lets get that 1st pick in the 2010 Draft!!!

Here we go First Pick, here we go...
Here we go First Pick, here we go...
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zcezcest` wrote
6. Cooley is among the better pass catching TEs, though he isn't much of a blocker, as we saw again today. Davis barely contributes.


Feel free to make your own rankings.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 11, 2009 7:23 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 11, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

He needs to step back and take a true owner's objective perspective.

Posted by: periculum | October 11, 2009 7:27 PM

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As George Steinbrenner did, after many years of futility.

But this ain't baseball and Snyder is not Steinbrenner.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 11, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

The signature moment of the season is Jake Delhomme dragging DeAngelo Hall for 6 yards to get a 1st down to seal the win for Carolina.

-It shows the team failing to do what is needed with the game on the line

-It shows one of our megabuck players getting beat by a guy doing something he's not even good at doing

-It shows the other guy has more heart than we do

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 11, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Metropolitan Opera House News Bulletin:

The performing arts world welcomes a 245lb. ballerina, named Mike Sellars, who shows exquisite lateral movement!

Posted by: 72Redskins | October 11, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1 I'd move coaching to the htop because it seems the WRs haven't improved in 2 years, the TEs can't block, and the decision to go with the talent on the OL was a mistake. I'd move the WR ahead of the the QB. The second year WR haven't done anything. Given an opportunity to make a big play today, DT failed. While Moss has been bringing it lately, we have hardly seen ARE step up.

Posted by: TWISI | October 11, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Ermmmm, the Yankees win a lot of baseball games.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 11, 2009 7:27 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yankees operate in an uncapped MLB..
My point was that in such a scenario (ie. NFL in 2010) a rich franchise has enough money to make mistakes on picks and drafts and recover. Cashman (Yanks GM) makes alot of Free Agent mistakes but, the Yankees can easily afford to replace the "mistakes" quickly with another Free Agent acquisition.
The Skins most likely will be in this position, if indeed, next year the NFL is uncapped. Enough money to recover and survive Vinny's Free Agent and/or Draft picks....

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 11, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: TWISI | October 11, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Sure to make MNF's pregame segment, "Cmon Man": DeAngelo Hall getting dragged and "outhearted" by Jake DelHomme.

Wow, what an intimadating figure that Jake DelHomme must have been in the open field.

Would have been like tackling Pee Wee Herman for MOST NFL defensive players. But, such is what has become typical of our beloved Redskins.

Posted by: 72Redskins | October 11, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

TWISI, the top 2 were OL and coach, it was just a matter of which order.

I agree, there are a lot of coaching issues. Lack of fire and lack of improvement are both issues. Play calling. Even subtle stuff like waiting so long to select the #2 WR in preseason or R Thomas's replacement after his injury. Even who they keep on the roster on game day.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 11, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

1965skinsfan wrote..
I guarantee you D Hall will sleep like a baby tonight after enjoying a far to expensive meal, drinks etc... He won't think about his miserable attempt at tackling Jake until somoen else brings it up and he;ll have to be coached to sound upset about missing it.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 11, 2009 7:29 PM
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Too true 1965,
DHall will wake up and check his Monday morning direct deposit from the Redskins (they're paid after each game)...
Ummm same 1.3 Million amount as last week... And it will be the same next Monday.. and next Monday...etc.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 11, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Its funny how Zorn gets blamed for the poor office, but I ask this what does he have to work with? What have we done in the last two years to give him a chance.

3 draft picks
Derrick Dockery

So, it is his fault that he is given a team that is old on the O-Line and why cant we ever draft young backs. Oh because we have Portis, Snyder wouldnt want to upset him. Looks at other teams in our division they have good backs and they keep drafting more. That is what your supposed to do, keep adding young play makers. Yeah, Haynesworth helped the defense, but I would have like to have a couple of lineman, but who will take the fall Snyder, Vinnie, No way, Jim Zorn will and although he has appeared over matched, does that really surprise anyone. We are playing with the same talent that we were when Brunnel was QB.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 11, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Obviously the present is screwed...so let's talk future.

1. I hear we are looking at Shanahan to be our next coach, possibly as early as next week. I hope this is a rumor. I personally don't want Shanahan as our next coach. What did he do in Denver without Elway? Want to talk about personnel issues, look at what he did to the Broncos...countless RB's/Defenses/QB's over and over...even after he landed Cutler he didn't deliver. Sorry, I just don't think he's our guy, we need a Coughlin/Singletary/Parcell's no non-sense coach.

2. Obviously Snyder isn't going anywhere. Snyder, please let this season prove to you that we absolutely must fire Vinny and please for the sake of the Redskins hire a GM!

3. We need to start unloading players, or positioning ourselves to cut/and trade as soon as possible. If we can get some picks in next years draft hopefully, we can pick up some O-Line and begin rebuilding the base of this team.

4. We need to establish a clear identity as a team. If we ever want to be a winning franchise again we need a GM and a coach that are committed to establishing an identity and sticking with it. Traditionally in Washington we have been a power run offense and smart veteran Defense. Every time we get away from that identity we lose. Let's get back to the basics. Solid and smart O-Line (Hogs) and a work horse RB, then when we are confident we have a good QB, either via the draft or free agency we can expand our Offense more. We need to start this process now or Washington Redskins football is going to be miserable for a long time.

Posted by: DCNative81 | October 11, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey, look on the bright side:

Campbell had no pics and a terrific passer rating.

Portis and Sellers are friends now.

Also, we scored TDs in the Red Zone for a change!

So, as you can see, there's a LOT to be encouraged about!

Go Skins!

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 11, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

As long as the Merry Midget owns this team, we're all doomed to season after season of futility. The dude doesn't get that he knows nothing about building a successful NFL team. The fact that the Skins have no quality O-line depth is a complete travesty. If JC gets no time, JC (or anyone else) throws no TDs! These lame losses are all on the front office (or lack thereof). This team has no character, and the future looks bleak. Zorn will be the scapegoat, but it's Danny Boy who should be walking the plank. If he was a real fan, as he claims, all he needs to do is look at the history of this team and emulate the Cooke formula. What an egotistical jackass.

Posted by: sufferinskinsfan | October 11, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and seriously, Shanahan is not the answer. I'm not sold on Holmgren, either. Gruden, either.

In fact, I'm not even sour on Zorn, except that he's got too many hats.

We'll get nowhere with anyone as long as our O line gets neglected, our coaches are constantly undermined, and we don't reward our own homegrown talent and bring in over-priced free agents.

We should trade everything we have for an O Line: Portis, Sellers, Moss, Cooley, El, Fletcher, Haynesworth, and down the line.

Best trade in my memory was the Skins getting Jim Lachey for Jay Shroeder to the Raiders.

We need O Line help NOW - or it's coitins.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 11, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Sellers was god awfull on the play that resulted in a safety. Who did he think was gonna block that guy that went whizzing by him. Show Sellers the pine till he get his head out of his azz.

Posted by: VegasJim | October 11, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Dumb move to keep your best receiver in to block. Thats what Yoder and Davis are for. Stupid.

Posted by: VegasJim | October 11, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

www.firethedanny.com

Posted by: nigt | October 11, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Nobody here can fire the Danny. He's not going to see the goose that lays golden eggs for him. We're stuck with him. Learn to live with it. Or you could choose to root for that expertly run franchise the Baltimore Ravens. Have you checked out there results lately?

Posted by: VegasJim | October 11, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Thinker_ you sound like a very smart person! I'm with you on Shanahan, no Elways or Terrell Davis on this team, it would just be more of the same with him. Plus we would have to look at that ugly dude all the time.

Posted by: VegasJim | October 11, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Coaching is the problem? Really?

Let me give you a little history lesson: no one thought Zorn was ready to be a head coach. Not even Danny. But when everyone else refused to work for Danny, they promoted Zorn.

Result? Zorn fails. That's not a surprise. But replacing Zorn doesn't fix the root cause of the problem. And that root cause is Danny.

And don't talk about firing Vinny. Vinny's just the shoe-shine boy.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | October 12, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

PORTIS PAPERS ARE STRAIGHT! AKA CLINTON " THE TORTUS PORTIS" ......

Posted by: rlomax67 | October 12, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

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