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Position Battles the Sequel: Right Tackle and WR

The Redskins will enter training camp in just over one month with several position battles worth keeping tabs on. Right tackle, strong side linebacker, wide receiver, quarterback...even running back have storylines worth watching.

Some battles beg the question whether the front office did enough to address the issues; others are worth watching simply to see whether there are going to be changes in players' roles.

In March, the competitions were evaluated on this blog. But after OTAs and some offseason moves, some of those outlooks have changed. We'll take another short look at some of those battles this week.

Today we'll go back over the two positions that have probably received the most attention so far on this blog, right tackle and wide receiver, and then we'll move into other positions tomorrow. If you have other position suggestions, comment away:

RIGHT TACKLE:

If the season opened today the starter would be: Stephon Heyer, a former undrafted free agent from Maryland who won the starting position last season only to lose it to Jon Jansen upon being injured. Heyer has shown flashes of starter potential, but is still very raw and struggled at times in the run game. He may be the answer this season for Washington, but whether he is a bonafide NFL starter and long-term answer at the position remains very much in doubt.

Said Zorn earlier this offseason of Heyer: "Heyer has really improved himself. He hasn't missed anything in our offseason program. He's trying to change his body style and the way he moves. I have seen some improvement. He's got a ways to go. That's why I wouldn't clearly name him the starter. He's working on his technique, his strength, his suddenness. Obviously, there's a lot to work on, but he's on his way."

Other options: The Redskins entered this offseason knowing they had major question marks at this position and despite that did little to address it.

Washington released longtime starter Jon Jansen earlier this offseason, and their highest-profile answer to a position that directly impacted the struggles of the offense last season was to sign Mike Williams, a player who is trying to drop around 100 pounds to get back into playing shape but was also considered among the biggest busts in the history of the Buffalo Bills.

Williams is the epitome of a boom-or-bust signing: If he is able to work his weight down he could be the biggest threat to unseat Heyer.

The Redskins also signed Jeremy Bridges, who has plenty of starting experience but has played most of his career at guard. Bridges has some experience at right tackle and with no clear starter he most certainly remains in the mix for the job.

Regardless of who wins this competition, this position could be one that is discussed throughout the season if some of the same problems from last season emerge. If none of these players proves to be reliable, Washington could face criticism for failing to find a true starter during the offseason.

Here's what Zorn had to say about the options after the Redskins released Jansen.

NO. 2 WIDE RECEIVER:

If the season opened today the starter would be: Antwaan Randle El, whom the Redskins desperately would love to use in the slot instead of at the flanker position. Randle El works best out of the slot, and Zorn said earlier this offseason that he hoped to be able to move him there permanently. In order to do so, however, the Redskins will need one of these other receivers to step up...

Other options: Devin Thomas is the natural selection to step in immediately at the 'Z' or flanker position. There are no doubts that Thomas has the natural physical gifts to be an impact player, with his speed giving him the ability to really stretch the field. But as of yet, the former Michigan State standout has done little to prove he is ready to translate physical gifts with on-field success.

Jason Campbell, however, has praised Thomas's improved route running and decision making through minicamp and OTAs, and if he is able to get on the field consistently Randle El could easily move into the slot.

Roydell Williams has become a fan favorite before preseason has even started by virtue of his performance two seasons ago with Tennessee, when he hauled in 55 catches for 719 yards. Williams broke his ankle and was released last season and did not play in 2008, but he has emerged through OTAs and has drawn the praise of receivers coach Stan Hixon, as well as that of Campbell.

Malcolm Kelly impressed teammates last offseason, but was unable to get onto the field as he struggled with a knee injury. Kelly's size and ability is a better fit for the slot, where he can go across the middle and move the chains, but first he'll have to show he can stay healthy.

Washington could also look to sign a veteran free agent in the mold of a D.J. Hackett, whom they offered a contract earlier this offseason, if the receivers struggle early in the season.

The Redskins desperately need any of the 'other option' to step up. If they fail to do so, the offense will again rely on Chris Cooley, Santana Moss and Clinton Portis to sustain their offense -- a formula that didn't work too well last season.

By Paul Tenorio  |  June 23, 2009; 12:27 PM ET
 | Tags: Antwaan Randle El, Devin Thomas, Jeremy Bridges, Malcolm Kelly, Mike Williams, Roydell Williams, Stephon Heyer  
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Comments

Please excuse Juan from class today...

Posted by: EpsteinsMothersDoctor | June 23, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

FIRST!!! Always wanted to do that!

Posted by: papashake | June 23, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Kelly won't make it in this league. He's from OU.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

FIRST!!! Always wanted to do that!

Posted by: papashake | June 23, 2009 12:35 PM

Yeah, but you spelled it wrong. It's spelled s-e-c-o-n-d.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

You can talk about WR and RT until you are blue in the face. The truth of the matter is, no one will know until the season starts.

Lets move on to RB where I see Marcus MAson making a come back like 'Mine That Bird' avoiding being sent to Europe as an appetizer and winning the Kentucky Derby...

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

wash-rinse-repeat with this post...a resounding duh!

Posted by: chrislarry | June 23, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Check out Bale in "Red Dawn" and "3:10 to Yuma" before you pass judgement on him. The guy is a good actor.

Keaton is done.

Posted by: MistaMoe

I agree Bale is a fine actor. But your comment about Keaton is uninformed.

Keaton, like Sandra Bulloch got caught up in the "must be serious actor" garbage that afflicts Hollywood. Why? Because everyone knows comedy is easy and tragedy is so, so hard to do.

Both Keaton and Bullock sought respect as dramatic actors. The result was uneven. Bullock was awful in "28 days" and extraordinary in "Crash."

Keaton recently scored big time with a wonderfully underplayed role in a movie the directed. Small independent, didn't make a dime, but re-established his chops.

Bullock saw the light and had a huge box office hit in "The Proposal," which lead box office with a 34.1 million weekend, which was about ten million higher than the wildest optimistic forecasts. Why?

Because peope were dying to have "While You Were Sleeping" Sandra back before the camera, and they got it. She benefitted from Ryan Reynolds performance, and their chemistry worked. Word of mouth pushed the movie over the top.

It's pretty good, entertaining, but without the chemistry would have bombed.

Her next movie is also a romcom. She's bright enough to know her Romcom lede years will end soon as she becomes a forty-something and there will be plenty of drama for her to play then.

As for now, shes making money and entertaining moviegoers sick of Summer CGI kiddie fare.

Keaton's future is up to him. If he's smart, he'll find the best comic script he can, and blow people away like he did in "Nightshift" and "Beetlejuice." In that kind of role, Keaton is rivetting.

Hollywood loves a comeback and one hit and he's riding on top. Then, like so many other actors, he can alternate between small indies and box office boffos that pay for the personal projects.

Smart, talented actors are never "done" in Hollywood unless they self-destruct.

A few years back people were saying the same thing about Robert Downey Jr.

And keaton doesn't have his drug issues to overcome.

Posted by: TheCork | June 23, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I hereby decree that I, etrod, being of sound mind and body will not discuss football up here until training camp starts or there is a topic posted that has not been discussed ad nauseum.


Posted by: Original_etrod | June 23, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

ET, your statement raises a number of issues:
1) the venn diagram of "sound mind and body" and "Up Here" is null.
2) ad nauseum is what we do, baby.

Posted by: daggar | June 23, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

dagger, can you post that Venn Diagram on the Wiki?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 23, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

"Chris Cooley, Santana Moss and Clinton Portis to sustain their offense -- a formula that didn't work too well last season. "

I think that is what the Redskins have been relying on for many years ... I thought this was identified as an issue after the playoff loss at Seattle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | June 23, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Bale to play WR for the redskins!

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

daggar,

I meant I don't mind that my body makes a lot of sounds.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 23, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I still belief Heyer will win the spot simply because he's done it before, he's younger and only lost the position to Jensen due to injury; however, Williams is a special story line, worthy of a come back notice if successful. Williams has personal motivation which may earn him a back up spot at RT. My question to offense minded people is, can Williams play the role of refrigerator "Perry" on third and one or on goal line?

Posted by: abxinc | June 23, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

They could've kept the previous thread as the current one. I was enjoying the movie convo...

It appears someone called and complained that RI turned into omg!

Funny to see the geek and nerd come out of everyone, myself included!

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Battle at Strong Safety?

Horton v. Doughty? And an update on Kareem Moore's progress and the role we can anticipate for him the season would be great.

Thanks.

Posted by: Chrisphilippsen | June 23, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"Chris Cooley, Santana Moss and Clinton Portis to sustain their offense -- a formula that didn't work too well last season. "

I think that is what the Redskins have been relying on for many years ... I thought this was identified as an issue after the playoff loss at Seattle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | June 23, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and gentlemen, your Washington Redskins!

Posted by: stwasm | June 23, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Agree with you RED. I'd much rather see an entertaining movie/music discussion than discussion ad nauseum about what's going to happen at RT and receiver. Nothing has happened since OTAs; nothing's going to happen before training camp. What's to discuss?

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | June 23, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

and if anyone says mike williams weight at the present moment, i might have to go eat myself to death

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | June 23, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

360 pounds......have fun....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 23, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I would like an update on the battle between the hoggetts and chief Z for redskins fans hearts.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

really, he's down that far already? in all seriousness, good for that guy. even if he doesn't make this football team, never plays again, etc, hopefully he'll lead a healthy, happy, long life. didn't mean to be insensitive. you're a softball player, right BTG? getting many games in in beantown; i should have joined a swimming league for all the washouts we've had in VA

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | June 23, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

yeah, at his previous weight he was literally freight training into diabetes, and heart related problems, so yeah, football aside, good for him for taking control of his weight, and getting into 'shape'....we had a bye last week, and have a game tonight...its currently, not raining....however that is subject to change....you play?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 23, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Guys?..........?

? why can't we just bring back Leigh Torrence to play all 3 receiver positions?.......


?.... guys?....

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 23, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

kareem moore is the worst.....on madden 09

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 23, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

can you ask Zorn about mixing in some no-huddle this year?

skins aren't talented enough to just line-up and beat people, maybe a little trickery would help?

Posted by: coparker5 | June 23, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh and back on the real,

Williams can't be considered a bust 'cause if I'm not mistaken we ain't payin' him diddly.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 23, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Moore's in Madden 09?

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Funny to see the geek and nerd come out of everyone, myself included!

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 1:35 PM

You are a nerd every time you hit submit. Myself included.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

bt, try to play whenever i can. out of 8 thursdays thusfar, we've played 1. kind of a bummer. but i do enjoy it, even if my team sorta, kinda sucks.

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | June 23, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Battle at Strong Safety?

Horton v. Doughty? And an update on Kareem Moore's progress and the role we can anticipate for him the season would be great.

Thanks.

Posted by: Chrisphilippsen | June 23, 2009 1:38 PM


Horton is the starter. Zorn said so. So, Doughty needs to become a ST stand-out at this point to ensure he doesn't get released in TC.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Moore's in Madden 09?

Posted by: alex35332

Yeah, once you do the upgrade for the rosters he's listed there, but I think lilhollywood meant Chris Horton now that I thought about it...

And Chris Horton is gar-bagge on '09. His overall is a 67, I think. Sucks trying to build him up too. No speed and he's listed as a FS - backup to Landry. He never saw the field in 3 years in the franchise mode.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, once you do the upgrade for the rosters he's listed there, but I think lilhollywood meant Chris Horton now that I thought about it...

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

That may be the only time you ever hear of Kareem Moore upgrading your roster.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 23, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The lamest part of Madden is that they half @$$ the rosters to start with. I can upgrade players on my own. Take the 80 man rosters and make sure all of em are on the game, how hard is that.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone here modded their 360?

Would love to see if anyone has updated roster downloads for this season on '09. Plus, you can't get the uploads into franchise mode, can you?

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 23, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what makes you more of a nerd, posting comments, reading through comments, or both?

I'm guilty of the latter.

Redskins Insider aka The Nine To Five Club

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

And Chris Horton is gar-bagge on '09. His overall is a 67, I think. Sucks trying to build him up too. No speed and he's listed as a FS - backup to Landry. He never saw the field in 3 years in the franchise mode.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 2:15 PM |

Once you get the roster updates, Horton is like an 80. And JT55 is still a 95 (hehehehe)...

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

o_e, true, but give him a chance.

should've typed 'updated' instead of "upgrade".

Kareem More is nothing more than "potential" at this point, which means he's doing nothing right now. I really don't see him on the field like that unless either Horton or Landry goes down, or they're running that cobra package.

lol... cobra package...

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

reading through comments and replying from what someone wrote 10 hours ago. Yes, I am guilty, too. I mainly look for my name, though. But also look for relevance.

It's either that or find a romantic fling that's not my wife. So she should be happy I am cheating on her with you guys....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

wait, I forget. Is cobra when we move a CB to S or a S to CB?

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Red, I was just going for the easy laugh.

I actually like Moore.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 23, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Insider aka The Nine To Five Club

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 2:20 PM |

When they pay us for overtime, we do overtime.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, if you're cheating on your wife with RI, 4th, we are going to demand some kind of jewlery, or barring that, a condo at the Watergate.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 23, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Position battles? Who cares?

As long as Vinny and Danny are in charge - this team will always suck!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | June 23, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Ahmm I think you missed something? Fred "Sleepy" Davis. If he gets on the field because of his potential as a superior blocker and potentially sure handed pass catcher; Cooley then moves into the wide receiver/slot receiver mix. Cooley could even come out of the backfield resurrecting the Joe Gibbs H-back ... probably could be used in the West Coast offense as well as anything else.

Could make up for diminished production from the rushing game (Portis).

Channeling Priest Holmes:
"Eat my skid marks CL"

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

whoah - I just got blocked by the censure! wow.

Sorry, Jack's kids!

Here's the edited version:
"That's right... we're all just 4th's cheap, dirty SJK!"

"I feel so used...so dirty..."


Posted by: DikShuttle | June 23, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Heyer is not a starting right tackle ... may never be. But that is only part of the whole problem:

Both Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas are coming off of career threatening injuries. Who plays left tackle if Heyer is on the right? Thomas guard spot is covered by Bridges. Where's the backup center? Just because the other Williams is in camp doesn't mean he can do the job.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I think Thomas will step up this season and the receiving corps will be much improved. Give Jason Campbell a bigger target and he will have a better year. Give Santana Moss more of a threat on the other side of the field and his numbers will go up. Cooley and Sleepy Davis should also benefit.

On the flip side, I think the Redskins only have bandaids for the right tackle position and it will be a weak spot all season long. Zorn will have to be creative in giving blocking help on that side. Maybe he should look at what the Ravens did last year with their unbalanced line.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 23, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Same old, same old, until camp starts next month I guess we must resign ourselves to this type of redundant fodder. Training camp, Preseason,....Hurry up and wait. The dog days of summer, US Open is over, now what, Wimbledon?

Posted by: 72Redskins | June 23, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

B-line: Wide receiver has plenty of talent both from the last two drafts, free agent signings and current starters. Guys just need to step up.

On the other hand ... the offensive line DOES NOT HAVE the same depth of talent and/or ability. Except at center and one guard spot, each starting position has increasing risk factors associated with age/injury/or other adversity.

OL does not look good.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"Both Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas are coming off of career threatening injuries"

Thomas yeah, you could make a case for that, but no...not Samuels...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 23, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey 4th! After all that could you (click here)

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 23, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Thomas yeah, you could make a case for that, but no...not Samuels...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 23, 2009

Thomas suffered the exact same injury 2 years ago and was put on the IR. He was never the same afterward. He continues to deteriorate to the point where Pete Kendall was considered the more consistent and reliable starting guard at a more advanced age.

As much as you may like Samuels, at his age, given the injuries, he probably should be move to right tackle with a younger guy moving into to the left tackle spot to replace him. Another year at left tackle could end his career much quicker. Especially in the newly revamped Beast.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Nothing interesting to talk about the last few days. This sucks.

Posted by: iH8dallas | June 23, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Thomas also got some stuff in his neck fixed, and was feeling better than he has in years...there you go.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 23, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

yeah, at his previous weight he was literally freight training into diabetes, and heart related problems, so yeah, football aside, good for him for taking control of his weight, and getting into 'shape'....we had a bye last week, and have a game tonight...its currently, not raining....however that is subject to change....you play?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


Beans... Where do you get this weight (360)? Hope it's not off Redskins.Com, as they've been listing him at 360 ever since he signed.

The sad thing is, even if that IS his weight, he needs to lose a bunch more after football or remains a health risk in waiting.

Posted by: TheCork | June 23, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

well we finished up with the dark knight. what are peoples thoughts on Iron man.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

If anything ... (okay it would be a miracle bordering on the order of Priest Holmes resurrecting his career) if Mike Williams could resurrect his career and move back into the left tackle position with Samuels moving right AND BE AS EFFECTIVE as his potential graded him out to be when he was drafted ... then you might have something and a really big surprise for the rest of the BEAST. That one "miracle" might just put the Redskins in 1st place in the NFC East.

But it would be after all a miracle ... and given the situation in DC, with the Nats, the damned now decrepit Metro, the economy ... gloom and doom? I need to stop that don't I? :)


Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

cork, someone posted it up here a day or so ago....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 23, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

LMAO @ Dik... (And the answer is NO BTW..)

John, I'll see if can atleast bring you flowers.

When I am home doing some late night typing, my wife always pokes her head up and exclaims' 'You're always on that F'ing web site, come spend time with me! Blah Blah Blah.' And my eyes then begin to roll. Hilarious.
Or, I might start LOLing, literally, and I get a 'What's so funny?' question. I usually respond , 'Oh, nothing. Just something someone wrote. You wouldn't understand.' And then she then begins to roll her eyes.

Good stuff at home! Reminds me of some cartoon ITTDGYa put up about the husband arguing with someone he'll never meet because they are wrong on the internet...

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Thomas could end up backing up Bridges.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

dagger, can you post that Venn Diagram on the Wiki?
Posted by: JohnDinHouston

Just as soon as these exciting position battles are resolved.

Posted by: daggar | June 23, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Iron Man? Tony Stark makes ya feel he's a cool exec with a heart of steel. As Iron Man all jets aflame he fights and smites with repulsar rays. Amazin' armor its Iron Man. Amazin' power its Iron Man!!!

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Thomas could end up backing up Bridges.

Yes, but if he had included that, it would be Position Battles the Sequel: Right Tackle and WR. And RG.

P-Ten has to learn to pace himself over the summer.

Posted by: daggar | June 23, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

reading through comments and replying from what someone wrote 10 hours ago. Yes, I am guilty, too. I mainly look for my name, though. But also look for relevance.

It's either that or find a romantic fling that's not my wife. So she should be happy I am cheating on her with you guys....

Posted by: 4thFloor

lol

Posted by: jm220 | June 23, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

iron man was tough. lookin for cheadle in iron man 2

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 23, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

4th (& everyone else), your account sounds pretty familiar to me!

Mrs. Shuttle pretty much thinks everyone on this blog is a complete nimrod, including yours truly.

This should sit well with everyone 'cause she's a stinkin' Cowgirls fan. God bless 'er.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 23, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

When Captain American throws his might shield all those who chose to oppose his shield must yield.

If he's led to a fight and the duel is due,
The the red and white and the blue'll come through

When Captain American throws his mighty shield.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Cross the Rainbow Bridge of Asgard,

Where the booming heavens roar,

You'll behold in breathless wonder

The God Of Thunder, Mighty Thor!

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

i was disappointed, The ballance between the 1st and the 2nd half was bleh. I would rather the entire movie be him creating Iron man and being kidnapped once he comes back to the US its just bland

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Think they'll make Don Cheadle the "War Machine"?

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

We have 3 guys at RT who've never been much at this level, but all would seem to have ample motivation. I'm just hoping someone 'wins' the job -- as opposed to being the last one standing with a just minor hamstring pull.

At WR, we have adequate talent. If Roydell is 700+ yards and ARE is 500+ yards and Moss is healthy, that's a good group. Plus, getting ARE off of punt duty should help his WR game. And its possible that either Thomas or Kelly finds game. Looking at the odds, we're probably OK at WR. The key is Moss and whether he stays healthy.

I think it is more important to solve the OL issues than it is to solve the WR issue. As of now, we are closer to solving the 2009 WR issue than the RT/RG issue.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 23, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I will give Iron man credit, he had a good color scheme.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

when someone up here says 'screw the cowboy fans', everyone agrees. But no one agrees with that more than Dik.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 23, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Think they'll make Don Cheadle the "War Machine"?

Posted by: periculum
Thats the plan.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | June 23, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I tell people that I post on a blog majority of the day.

Some laugh and some envy.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 23, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The original color scheme started off as white and gray. Not crimson and gold.

He rebuilds the old suit to rehab himself after alcoholism and homelessness. Be nice to see that series.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

It's either that or find a romantic fling that's not my wife. So she should be happy I am cheating on her with you guys....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 2:28 PM

She should be, but she takes this as evidence that (1) you're losing your interest in women and/or (2) women have lost interest in you. She's thinking she should find a romantic fling that's not her husband.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Today, we load the minivan and head to Orlando to confront the rat known as Disney.

.....

But today and tomorrow, a small fortune will be spent on what Dr. Phil calls, "Quality family time," standing in long lines and eating massively overpriced food.

I hope the blog lives long and prospers.

I'm out.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 23, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse


Did anyone notice that MistaMoe times his family vacations to fall between OTA's and the opening of camp!!!

That's true dedication. Hail, and have a good vacation, Moe.


Posted by: frediefritz | June 23, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frediefritz | June 23, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

She should be, but she takes this as evidence that (1) you're losing your interest in women and/or (2) women have lost interest in you. She's thinking she should find a romantic fling that's not her husband.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 3:52 PM

(1) My name is not Joe Buck
(2) Women have too much interest in me.
(3) She does have a romantic interest other then me. They are called (real) Gucci Handbags and high-heeled shoes....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 23, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Beans... Where do you get this weight (360)? Hope it's not off Redskins.Com, as they've been listing him at 360 ever since he signed.

The sad thing is, even if that IS his weight, he needs to lose a bunch more after football or remains a health risk in waiting.

Posted by: TheCork | June 23, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

On the last day of OTA's, he weighed in at 365. So he could very well be down another 5#s.

Posted by: frediefritz | June 23, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I guess that tells us something about Jansen's status with the Skins that they'd prefer Heyer, Bridges, or Mike Williams. Detroit obviously felt differently. But I'm at a loss to read posts describing him as 'not a right tackle'. That depends entirely on what an offensive scheme demands of the position. Heyer may indeed be a better fit for the Zorn version of the WCO (which I suspect we haven't yet seen on the field) than many others. He works hard and follows directions, and coaches prize that over sheer athleticism.

The real worry on the o-line IMO is Randy Thomas. Do we really want to go into the season with somebody in that sort of physical dilemma?

As for the WR position, hasn't Randle El always been something of an odd fit at flanker? Not sure if the Skins just couldn't find a replacement, or they didn't realize it until last season. Randle El's strength is versatility, which is a slot receiver trait. Despite what you sometimes read here, he's been moderately productive in his current role. Most NFC teams have holes at one WR position or another.

It'd be great if Devin Thomas could take over the flanker position. A number of folks have noted his deficiencies as a deep receiver, but on the flank he would mainly catch balls underneath and turn upfield.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

LMGO.

DALLAS - NFL offensive linemen bang heads all the time. A trio of Dallas Cowboys linemen are now professional head-bangers, too.

Leonard Davis, Marc Colombo and Cory Procter have signed a recording contract as part of a heavy metal band called Free Reign. Their debut album for Australia's Riot Entertainment will be released this fall.

Considering all three players weigh over 300 pounds, it only makes sense they are being referred to as "heavier than metal."
Story continues below.

"Free Reign is a band with massive potential," Riot owner John Howarth said in a news release Tuesday. "There has been an enormous buzz surrounding them since they appeared on the scene a few months ago. Free Reign has already been flooded with endorsements. Their marketing potential is limitless. These guys are already huge sports stars, but they have shown they have the talent to diversify."

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 23, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

wow, samson, you just addressed the actual and the entire post - that's a first for today

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 23, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah talent_evaluator .. being from OU certainly destroys Kelly's chances in the NFL. It's not like there are guys in the league from OU right now (Tommie Harris, Adrian Peterson, Jammal Brown, Roy Williams, the list goes on..) who have been making pro-bowls left and right the last few years. Do some research before you go spouting off.

Posted by: dford525 | June 23, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

"...a position that directly impacted the struggles of the offense last season..."

A few alternate perspectives:

1. RT was not the singular reason the unit struggled late last season. It's tough to expect a line of 30 somethings to hold up over 16 games, and we lost our starting LT. Heyer isn't even a lock for RT, so that should be a dead giveaway that he had no business being thrown into that role.

2. Jansen was a perennial cap monster. We had to take the hit sooner or later in order to move on with our line. It's like pruning: You gotta trim some things to clear the way for new growth.

3. The Boom or Bust analysis of Mike Williams is a pretty shoddy look at what even Vinny haters has to admit was a shrewd personnel move, even if he simply fell into our lap. We got him for next to nothing, he has experience, and he's apparently pushing Heyer. What more could you want? Worst case scenario is the big boy provides some depth, which has been an unheard of concept in these parts.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 23, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

No, the greatest player in the NFL from OU is punter Dave Zastudil

Posted by: 4-12 | June 23, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

And another thing... I know its sessy to say that the Skins havent addressed the line in the offseason, but if Randy Thomas falters in pre-season, we could have 3 different starters than at the end of last season (Dock, Williams/Bridges, and Heyer). And none of them are over-the-hill cap liabilities.

I would have loved to have seen a boomer taken in the draft like everyone else, but I expect the younger guys to hold up better over the course of a season than the geriatric club did last year.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 23, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought last season Moss played primarily flanker and Randel El split end, no?

Posted by: RambleOn | June 23, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

From center to right tackle our Oline is shaky. Rabach got manhandled at times last year, Thomas is old and injury prone, and we all know it's up in the air at right tackle.On any level of football your Lines,O and D, are crucial for any success. That's simple football 101. How an esteemed NFL franchise in our nation's capitol where a large percentage of the population is degreed and supposedly intelligent cannot comprehend and act upon this simple premise is beyond comrehension. Look at all the succesful teams of recent years, Patriots,Giants, Steelers, etc. they DRAFT lineman,they GROOM and DEVELOP lineman!!

Since this is a COPYCAT league, when are Snyder and Vinny going to start COPYCATING?

Knowing that our offensive line was our most glaring need and weakness, how could they pretty much ignore it in the draft?

I mean it's almost tantamount to going to the ER with a bullet wound, bleeding profusely, and then telling them don't worry about that, "can you take this splinter out of my finger"?

Posted by: 72Redskins | June 23, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario Right side of line:

C- Jon Gosselin
RG- Mickelson
RT- Manny Ramirez

Best case scenario WR:

Left and Right WR- Santana
Slot- Fergie
TE- Cooley's wife

PS Cork - you got the Bonnie Raitt guy all wrong.

Posted by: ElYeah | June 23, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Cooley's wife playing in the slot.

just sayin...

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 23, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Do some research before you go spouting off.

Posted by: dford525 | June 23, 2009 4:36 PM |

I did. You didn't read it. It was on the previous post.

And the comment, itself, was sarcasm directed at Mistamoe and vicc. You're way right.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

@dford525--

Evaluating guys based on where they went to school is crazy. According to you two, no one would have drafted Darrell Green. Now Orakpo is a risk before his first game because he went to Texas which is in the Big 12.

Texas is ninth all-time in NFL players, 309. Nebraska is fifth (326), OU is fourth(330). The highest SEC school is Tennessee, seventh with 317.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 7:12 AM

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 23, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Hip - Hip - Hooray !!!

Maryland football lose a bundle of recruits !

1 - Wisconsin Badgers nab Good Counsel safety Frank Tamakloe
6-foot-2, 172-pound prospect Frank Tamakloe has committed to sign with Wisconsin's Class of 2010, ESPN affiliate Web site InsideMDSports.com reports.

Tamakloe added that the Badgers just beat out Northwestern and Maryland for his pledge.

2- Highly-touted Peach State corner Jonathan Mincy chooses Auburn
Jonathan Mincy, a 5-foot-11, 170-pound cornerback from Southwest DeKalb (Decatur, Ga.) has committed to the Tigers for the Class of 2010.

Georgia Tech, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, LSU, Miami-Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt and South Carolina have also offered Mincy.

3 - Boston College adds QB Joshua Bordner to fold
A 6-foot-4, 185-pound quarterback, Joshua Bordner of Century (Eldersburg, Md.) has chosen the Eagles for the Class of 2010.

Bordner, who passed for 2217 yards and 18 touchdowns as a junior, also drew interest from Maryland. He rushed for another 10 scores.

4- Defensive end Tavaris Barnes is headed to Seminoles
Highly-sought Tavaris Barnes, a 6-foot-4, 250-pound defensive lineman from First Coast (Jacksonville, Fla.), has committed to Florida State for the Class of 2010.

Barnes had previously narrowed his list down to Florida State, North Carolina and South Carolina. Several other programs including Florida, Maryland, West Virginia, South Florida Clemson, Georgia Tech and Rutgers also offered.

5 -Defensive lineman T. J. Clemmings decides for the Panthers
Pittsburgh has landed highly-recruited T. J. Clemmings of Paterson Catholic (Paterson, N.J.) for the Class of 2010.

The 6-foot-5, 255-pound defensive end also holds scholarship offers from Notre Dame, Miami-Florida, Penn State, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Maryland, Ohio State, Rutgers, South Carolina, Syracuse and Duke, among many others.

6- Wake Forest lands Bolles defensive back Desmond Cooper
Safety Desmond Cooper of Boles (Jacksonville, Fla.) has accepted a Class of 2010 offer from the Demon Deacons.

Arkansas, Indiana, Maryland, Miami-Florida, Purdue, Rutgers, West Virginia and Florida International also extended offers to the 6-foot-2, 190-pound prospect.

7- Highly-recruited athlete Anthony Creecy picks Wolfpack
North Carolina State has snared receiver / running back prospect Anthony Creecy of Southern Durham (Durham, N.C.) for its recruiting Class of 2010.

The 5-foot-11, 195-pound Creecy holds over 30 offers, including North Carolina, Wake Forest, Duke, East Carolina, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Stanford, Clemson, Florida State, LSU, Maryland and Mississippi, among others.

Maryland football will finish with a 2-10 record.

Maryland Basketball will finish with a 15-16 record
- No NCAA bid
- No NIT bid

Carolina Blue - Carolina WHITE - Go Tar Heels - Let's go Tar Heels !

Posted by: hclark1 | June 23, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Cooley's wife playing in the slot.

just sayin...

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 23, 2009

His brother's wife is pretty smokin' too. Put them both in the slot and I'd be there to watch ...

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought last season Moss played primarily flanker and Randel El split end, no?

Posted by: RambleOn | June 23, 2009

Correct. But Randle El, Malcom Kelly are better suited for "the slot". They need a consistent "go-to" possession receiver (think Art Monk) with Moss as a deep threat. Even better if the possession guy has enough speed to get separation from coverage.

That could be Devin Thomas. Perhaps one of the FA's they signed.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

ESPN all-time best offenses.

1. St. Louis Rams (2000)
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2. Washington Redskins (1983)

The '83 'Skins scored 541 points during the regular season, the second-highest total in NFL history, and, except for their 38-9 Super Bowl loss to the Raiders, never scored fewer than 23 points in a game. How'd they do it? Joe Theismann, John Riggins and the Hogs. Theismann completed 60 percent of his passes for 3,714 yards and 29 TDs. Riggins carried 375 times, bulldozing his way to 1,347 yards and 24 TDs. They had some help, too -- from Joe Washington, who rushed for 772 yards, an average of 5.3 per carry, and caught 47 passes; from wide receiver Charlie Brown, who caught 78 passes for 1,225 yards and eight TDs; from Art Monk, who played only 12 games but caught 47 passes; and from kicker Mark Moseley, who booted 161 points through the uprights

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse


West Coast Offense Explained

The West Coast Offense (developed by former San Francisco 49ers head coach Bill Walsh) is an that utilizes a short passing game designed to control the ball.

In most conventional offenses, the idea is to run the ball to draw the linebackers and safeties in closer to the line of scrimmage, thereby opening up lanes for a vertical passing attack. This offense however does just the opposite, using a quick, horizontal passing attack to set up the running game.

The West Coast Offense relys heavily on an ability to flood a defense with more receivers than they can handle. The quarterback often moves around more than in a conventional offense with bootlegs and designed rollouts that are tied in with the patterns being run by the receivers.
Teams currently using a West Coast Offense

* Denver
* San Francisco
* Green Bay
* Tampa Bay
* Philadelphia
* Washington
* Seattle

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

If you flood your opponent with receivers that means your offensive line may have much less help with the opponent's pass rush.

To have a good west coast offense you had better have a really good base offensive line from tackle-to-tackle.

Posted by: periculum | June 23, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

periculum:
That's why this team needs to put more emphasis on lineman than big name skill players.

You can have all the name and skill you want but if the line up front ain't worth a dam, chances are you won't be either.

Posted by: 72Redskins | June 23, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

hclark1, you should have turned right instead of left. This is Redskins Insider. Terrapins Insider can be found under columns/blogs.

And let's be more classy my friend. We are Carolina.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 23, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

JLC just made his "debut" on the NFL Network. I have to commend him - he did a really good job and he was dressed very nicely.

Posted by: Lisa_R | June 23, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

A valley of humility between two mountains of conceit.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 23, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Mike Williams... even Vinny haters has to admit was a shrewd personnel move, even if he simply fell into our lap.

when Mike Williams fell into our lap, it was PAINFUL, not shrewd.
That flash of light was not brilliance -- just loss of consciousness.

Posted by: daggar | June 23, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

If you flood your opponent with receivers that means your offensive line may have much less help with the opponent's pass rush.

To have a good west coast offense you had better have a really good base offensive line from tackle-to-tackle.

Posted by: periculum


Unless you have an HOF-level QB and some great playmakers (like SJ9 and Charley Taylor), every offense needs a good OL to succeed.

Walsh' offense is actually less sensitive to pass protection, because the throws come quickly. Where it needs a strong OL is for the run game. Most people don't realize how strong Walsh's run game was.

Steve Young described the WCO passing game as a dance. As the QB takes his 3 step drop, his WR is also taking 3 steps, when the QB steps to throw, the WR steps into the break. Very much a rhythm offense.

Another little known facet of Walsh's offense. It is a "quick read" offense, designed for the QB to understand whether the defense is running man coverage or zone. Walsh would have a WR run at a defender -- something rarely done. The defender would react differently depending on whether it was a zone or man defense. That read made it clear what the QB was dealing with.

Young said he, and his WRs, were almost never confused by the coverage being employed by the defense, and that it was very rare for him to throw to once spot and while the WR was running to another.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 23, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

JLa on now.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 23, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Another little known facet of Walsh's offense. It is a "quick read" offense, designed for the QB to understand whether the defense is running man coverage or zone. Walsh would have a WR run at a defender -- something rarely done. The defender would react differently depending on whether it was a zone or man defense. That read made it clear what the QB was dealing with.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 23, 2009 9:27 PM

The one place IMO that JC17 struggles with.

Posted by: Skins930 | June 23, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Snyder Recommended La Canfora For NFLN Gig
Posted by Mike Florio on June 23, 2009, 11:15 p.m.

In connection with Jason La Canfora’s Tuesday night debut on NFL Network, we remembered something that a source with knowledge of the situation told us a couple of weeks ago.

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder actually recommended La Canfora for the job.

The recommendation came notwithstanding the fact that La Canfora had gotten into a pissing match last year with Snyder’s right-hand man, Vinny Cerrato.

“He is a making a mockery of fact and reality and trying to play people for fools,” La Canfora wrote in an e-mail regarding a dispute with Vinny Cerrato over the question of whether his comments about former Raiders coach Lane Kiffin constituted tampering.

“It’s [a] pathetic attempt to slander me,” La Canfora said, “but not surprising in the least given who it is coming from.”

Multiple sources tell us that La Canfora ultimately was required by his former employer, the Washington Post, to submit a written apology to Cerrato.

So why would Snyder recommend La Canfora, who was working the Redskins beat, for a job with another media outlet?

I think I might have just answered my own question.

Posted by: Curzon417 | June 23, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Multiple sources tell us that La Canfora ultimately was required by his former employer, the Washington Post, to submit a written apology to Cerrato.


LOL!!

Oh, and Florio is a punk.

Posted by: Skins930 | June 24, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Let me sing off to you fearful fans that do not think that we will be fine at WR. Thomas has shown in OTAs that he has changed and is ready to play and Kelly, by staying healthy will also be ready to contribute this year. But Davis may have the best chance to help this team in the red zone.

The coaches were not ready to do their jobs last year so it was hard for the "pass catchers" to do their jobs. This year will be a breakout season for those pass catchers.

And don't forget about Rienhart and Clark to come in and contribute this year. Willison should aslo do well as a back up center if needed.. OL will be fine this year.

All this depends on the coaches knowing their playbooks and are able to teach the players.

Posted by: Skins930 | June 24, 2009 1:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, since when is Dan Snyder such a friggin' golden boy that his recommendation can get JLC a job? His motives are so transparent it's ridiculous.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 5:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, since when is Dan Snyder such a friggin' golden boy that his recommendation can get JLC a job? His motives are so transparent it's ridiculous.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 5:47 AM

It was random. The 31 other owners suggested the 31 other beat reporters. The NFL had to choose one of them. Now, Dan can say "I'm the man" to Jasno, but the 31 other owners can say "You owe me a favor." Dan can say "You owe me a favor" to Vinnie. I guess he already could say that, now that I think about it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 24, 2009 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly impressed teammates last offseason, but was unable to get onto the field as he struggled with a knee injury. Kelly's size and ability is a better fit for the slot, where he can go across the middle and move the chains, but first he'll have to show he can stay healthy.

By Paul Tenorio | June 23, 2009; 12:27 PM ET

So let me get this straight...the Redskins spent their 2008 2nd round picks on a WR to start, a backup TE, and another WR that is going to climb no higher than 3rd on the depth chart. Is that right?

*Sigh*

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Dan can say "You owe me a favor" to Vinnie. I guess he already could say that, now that I think about it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 24, 2009 6:04 AM

Um, yeah...Vinny owes Danny his life, considering NO ONE ELSE in the NFL thinks Vinny is anything better than a scout.

Here's hoping Vinny pays in full, clearing the way for the next generation Bobby Beathard...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 6:14 AM | Report abuse

One last thing: When the rains became heavy that day, Zorn recalled Gibbs coming over to make sure he and his son Isaac stayed dry.


"He handed me an umbrella," Zorn said of Gibbs, the man still very good at protecting others from a downpour.

I think that right there is what made Gibbs so loved. Always looking out for others.

Posted by: jm220 | June 24, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

WTF is the Wizard doing?

Posted by: jm220 | June 24, 2009 7:34 AM | Report abuse

WTF is the Wizard doing?

Posted by: jm220 | June 24, 2009 7:36 AM | Report abuse

I have to say that Wise column has to be the most worthless column I've ever read here. That wasn't even about anything! He wasted his time writing that fluff and I wasted my time reading it!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

So you're saying Mike Wise isn't? hehe.

Thanks 4 tha tip - I won't waste my time either... unless it's fo Jibba Jabba!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

He's not on this one, Dik. I know some up here don't like Wilbon, but his stuff is usually good (whether it reflects well on the Skins or not). Wise seems to be better on Jim Rome than he is writing columns for the Post.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Maaan, they had a total rookie Metro driver straight out of school driving their oldest, most dangerous rig..You KNOW it's the "old boys" network, the vet drivers getting the fancy hi-tech new trains and the rookies the clunkers..Things gonna shakeup at the Metro..

Posted by: frak | June 24, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

From the article on Tailgating restrictions (not sure where I come down on that issue, though - most likely on the tailgater's side. TRUE FANS!!)

Anyway - I loved this blurb:

A Cowboys team official told the Dallas Morning News the response from fans was "excruciatingly positive".

...pretty much anything from the Cowgirls is excruciating... lmao!

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

A Cowboys team official told the Dallas Morning News the response from fans was "excruciatingly positive".

...pretty much anything from the Cowgirls is excruciating... lmao!

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 8:28 AM

Not to mention it's a complete contradiction. That's like saying you're "miserably happy". WTF?

Only in Dallas...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Shakeup? or Cover-up?

I think they're going to try to bury this by dragging it out so long everyone's short term memory will fade...

The mis-management in that bureau is mind-boggling.

So they tell everyone NOT to ride the Red Line yesterday and come up with a different route, but then they don't adjust the other routes to deal with the heavier load on those lines!! Stoooooopid.

That limited yellow line run kept the green line bottled up for hours. so you'd see empty train going nowhere, train so full it can't take any more people, empty train going nowhere, train so full it can't take any more people...ad infinitum... asinine.

///maps///

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

lmao, Brown!

..like that sore spot in your mouth, that you KNOW is going to hurt but you just HAVE to touch it?.. I kinda imagine life for a Dallas fan is like that...

roflmfao.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

A couple of quick takes before I get swamped at work...again.

I haven't followed basketball closely in the past few years, however I was surprised the Wizards are trading the 5th pick. Is the draft class that weak? Does this trade make sense?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/23/snyder-recommended-lacanfora-for-nfln-gig/

I find interesting that JLa had to write a letter of apology to Cerrato. Maybe even in the eyes of the Post JLa stepped across the line of professionalism.

Posted by: TWISI | June 24, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I find interesting that JLa had to write a letter of apology to Cerrato. Maybe even in the eyes of the Post JLa stepped across the line of professionalism.

Posted by: TWISI | June 24, 2009 8:47 AM

In the eyes of the blind, he overstepped the line of professionalism.

And I'm scared to death of the NBA draft...what a crock that the Wiz didn't get the first pick. But I'll be pissed if they trade Caron Butler...that would be a mistake.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Wise is great on TV, funny guy.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 24, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

More of Florio just writing about stuff a year old.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 24, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

saw transformers last night. it was that shi+++++++++++++++

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 24, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I have heard that last sentence used to describe transformers. but usually with out the word "the"

Posted by: alex35332 | June 24, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I like Wise, he does great Hockey columns and he is great on video, as Alex says. I mean if your going to write a fluff column, pretty sure mid-june in the sports calendar is the perfect time.....

Posted by: chrislarry | June 24, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

wow I am shocked that Transformers was garbage.......I mean I would expect that paying $10++ for a car commercial would be so great!

Posted by: chrislarry | June 24, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Brown, I doubt the Wiz would trade Butler but there has to be another deal in the works. There are 6 guards on the roster right now.

Stevenson and/or Mike James might be on their way out of town soon.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 24, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Does it have Shaia LeBoeuff?

Then it's Shi+++++++++++++

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Brown, I doubt the Wiz would trade Butler but there has to be another deal in the works. There are 6 guards on the roster right now.

Stevenson and/or Mike James might be on their way out of town soon.

Posted by: Original_etrod

Stoudemire's name keeps popping up, but I'd like to have Kenyon Martin or his moral equivalent...Jackson ain't trading or losing Gasol, the All-Star freebie they got from Memphis..

Posted by: frak | June 24, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

etrod,

Wiz traded the 5th pick to Minnesota along with Songalia, Etan Thomas and Petcherov for Randy Foye and Mike Miller. Minnesota now has a whopping FOUR 1st round picks.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Roger Ebert gave Transformers 1 star. Best quote " If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination."

Posted by: alex35332 | June 24, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Alex, I've learned that you have to dumb down to watch movies and actually enjoy them. If you're like Vicc who has to break down every detail of every movie you watch, you'll ALWAYS be disappointed.

Have you read the movie reviews in the Post? Probably 3 out of 4 movies reviewed gets some sort of negative rating. It's hard to do anything original anymore and in most movies it shows.

So I just take movies for what they're meant for--giving your brain a rest.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Plenty of original going on in Cinema if you care to look......I like movies as a way to interact with my brain not turn it off...

F Transformers


And a hearty Happy Bday to 4th and LH!

Posted by: chrislarry | June 24, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Brown. I will simply say I disagree on both points. Then again I went to film school.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 24, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Brown. I will simply say I disagree on both points. Then again I went to film school.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 24, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Plenty of original going on in Cinema if you care to look...

Posted by: chrislarry | June 24, 2009 10:01 AM

I have. And if you think about it, with close to 100 years of cinema there aren't too many stones left unturned.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Turns left unstoned?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 24, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Completely off topic but whateveer:

One...that's right folks, one home playoff game, since Danny has been running this storied franchise. To hell with the NFC East title ten years ago(which Danny deserves no credit for). Can we please strive for a home playoff game????...at the least. On the other hand, there is no long term vision, Fedex field provides one of the worst game day experiences in the league, and our GM/Captain Bug eyes(or whatever the hell his job title is this week) acts as if he's leading the team to the promise land every free agency period. It has really turned into a joke.

Posted by: beigebandit | June 24, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

brown,

I was saying that now, after the trade, they have 6 guards - 7 if you count Miller - and there's no way they're keeping them all.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 24, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

One...that's right folks, one home playoff game, since Danny has been running this storied franchise. To hell with the NFC East title ten years ago(which Danny deserves no credit for). Can we please strive for a home playoff game????...at the least. On the other hand, there is no long term vision, Fedex field provides one of the worst game day experiences in the league, and our GM/Captain Bug eyes(or whatever the hell his job title is this week) acts as if he's leading the team to the promise land every free agency period. It has really turned into a joke.

Posted by: beigebandit | June 24, 2009 10:31 AM

Um, hate to interrupt such a quality and timely rant (insert sarcasm here), but the only way you get a home playoff game IS to win your division. Or hope that you get the 5 seed as a wild card and the 6th seed upsets its way to the NFC title game to play you.

Just join in the jibba jabba...it'll make you feel better.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Let's start over here with a fresh topic. Who will be the most surprising Redskin on day one? Who has the potential to be included in this discussion?

Posted by: changer1 | June 24, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Maaan, they had a total rookie Metro driver straight out of school driving their oldest, most dangerous rig..You KNOW it's the "old boys" network, the vet drivers getting the fancy hi-tech new trains and the rookies the clunkers..Things gonna shakeup at the Metro..

Posted by: frak | June 24, 2009 8:26 AM

This is not "old boys network." It's union rules. And it's not even clear that there was any driver error involved.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 24, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Whether there was driver error or not, it still shouldn't have happened.

There are at lest 2 additional levels of fail-safe that metro doesn't seem to feel it needs to employ.

Hell, a GARMIN GPS could have stopped this accident. stupid waste of life and resources. so. so. sad.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

And for original (ish) new films - how about Duncan Jones' MOON?

I'm lookin' forward to that one.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I was saying that now, after the trade, they have 6 guards - 7 if you count Miller - and there's no way they're keeping them all.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 24, 2009 10:34 AM

Let's hope not...this team has been hungry for a quality big man since Wes Unseld. They've gotta do SOMETHING to get better in the paint.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

what - Kwame Brown wasn't enough paint presence for you?

....maps////

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

what - Kwame Brown wasn't enough paint presence for you?

....maps////

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 11:02 AM

If you mean "paint presents", like a 7-foot dude who can gift wrap some cans of paint to give as a gift. In terms of a guy to play the low post, he came up just a bit short.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I'm wondering if anyone up here has a Blackberry Storm on Verizon Wireless. I've been looking at 'em and I've heard mixed reviews. Looks nice and I want a Blackberry, but I've heard it's more trouble than it's worth.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

remember Manute breaking his teeth on the rim?

bwaaahahahahahaha. good times, good times.

Hey - I got to meet Chuck Nevit at my cousin's wedding when I was a kid...

His girlfriend almost came up to his.. well.. ukno....

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I've seen them and they're VERY cool. I have not worked w/ the interface and the lawyer schmuck at our office who used it turned it in very quickly...

...but he was a lawyer schmuck. Wotz your techie quotient, brown? I could imagine really enjoying one if I could afford it.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

"There are at lest 2 additional levels of fail-safe that metro doesn't seem to feel it needs to employ."

Smell like lawsuit, look like lawsuit..Must be lawsuit!!

They'll snap out of their anti-NTSB funk as soon as they get zapped with a 500 million dolla lawsuit from the victim's families..

Posted by: frak | June 24, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Big Albert Haynesworth will be on Sirius NFL Radio during the 2pm east hour with noted Redskins hater Adam Schein. I can't break away so hopefully the "Insiders by Committee" or one of you can recap. Hail.

Posted by: dexter72 | June 24, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

They'll snap out of their anti-NTSB funk as soon as they get zapped with a 500 million dolla lawsuit from the victim's families..

Posted by: frak | June 24, 2009 11:24 AM |

It's not "they". It's us. If you live in the area that Metro serves, you will be paying for the law suit.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 24, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Hey - I got to meet Chuck Nevit at my cousin's wedding when I was a kid...

His girlfriend almost came up to his.. well.. ukno....

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 11:20 AM |

Wait - funny lookin' a.. Chuck Nevitt had a girlfriend. That NBA money does wonders.

Thanks for the well wishes CL.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 24, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Whether there was driver error or not, it still shouldn't have happened.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 10:55 AM

Dik, you fillin' in for Captain Obvious while he takes his vacation this week?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 24, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Here's my prediction for who's going to shine on opening day:

One of our sophmore pass catcher's:
Kelly
Thomas
Davis

Will catch the first TD pass of their NFL career.

Posted by: 72Redskins | June 24, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Wotz your techie quotient, brown? I could imagine really enjoying one if I could afford it.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 24, 2009 11:23 AM

I'm not very tech savvy, but it seems pretty straight forward if you get it set up right. So I'd love to get my hands on one, but it's too expensive to get and then be miserable with for 2 years.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Here's my prediction for who's going to shine on opening day:

One of our sophmore pass catcher's:
Kelly
Thomas
Davis

Will catch the first TD pass of their NFL career.

Posted by: 72Redskins | June 24, 2009 11:56 AM


Dude, this team only managed one TD in Week 1 last year against the same squad they'll play again this year...I don't care who scores it, just score!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 24, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Man, i think that if they can use Reihnhart at the right guard position, that would help too....if he's versitale....I mean gurards should be able to play both sides, blocking scheems are bassically he same. He may have more of a "head-up" man on him, due to that side being the "running" side...but I blame that on coaching. You should always be able to have lineman to the other side, that's like walking and chewing gum.

as for the Receivers, if Devin gives us 500yds and Davis 200 yds, then Randel El may have a break out year and Moss will definitely give us a 1000yds. (**ofcourse moss has to be healthy).....but also, they have to be WILLING TO THROW THE DANG BALL MORE THAN 20 YARDS AT LEAST 10 TIMES A GAME!!!!.

If they dont do that, they will have more of the same. I dont care if you need 2yds, you should always have someone running deep, to take that safety and a linebacker out of the box.....so simple, yet they struggle with it....

Posted by: impervious99 | June 24, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 24, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

excellent post.

Posted by: trolly_time | June 24, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

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