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Archuleta's Contract

Some of you have been pondering the uncertain future of safety Adam Archuleta, so I consulted with some people who crunch NFL contracts/the salary cap for a living to get their take on his contract.

Archuleta got a six-year deal with as much as $30-million - he'll never get close to that full total - and $10 million guaranteed. His contract is a little complicated and this entry is going to get a little complicated. This is ridiculous minutia, but I know some of you will get it and are interested in it. Everybody else, fughetaboutit. That's what I would do, frankly, but I've got to stay on top of this 'cause Chloe keeps outgrowing her damn onesies and sleepers.

Okay, so Arch Deluxe (an underrated junk food classic if you ask me, along with the McDLT) got $5 mil to sign and has another $5 mil due in an option bonus this March, so says my peeps who have studied his contract. So, you say, why not just not exercise that option bonus? That's what I said to my boys. They explained why it ain't that easy.

There is language in the contract saying that if the Skins do not pick up the option, then Archuleta's base salaries the next three seasons automatically escalate to higher sums and become guaranteed. That last word is the key one. Base salaries up here are generally not guaranteed, which gives bozos like Drew Rosenhaus something to whine about.

So, the Skins could opt to exercise that $5 mil option, then cut Archuleta after June 1, should they decide that it's just not working here and they can't afford to pay the captain of their punt protection team or whatever he is that much dinero. In that case, the Skins would take a $1.83 mil cap hit in 2007, and face $7.165 in dead-cap money in 2008. It's often hard for teams to make a cut like that so late, however, because then you are carrying a high cap number into the new league year and through cap compliance in March, when normally you want to have your budget set before then.

If the Skins do not exercise the option, then Arch makes a guaranteed $595,000 in '07, a cool mil in '08 and $3.405 in '09. He's going to get that cash regardless, and the only way he might get a 'lil less is through a renegotiate, but the presence of the guaranteed salary clause basically negates any incentive to do that. Even if The Snyder threatened him with the full Laveranues Coles plasma-TV treatment, he'd have no real leverage.

If the Skins do not exercise the option, they would take a $9 mil cap hit in 2007 if released before June 1.

The most likely scenario, according to my dudes, bless their souls, might be the Skins opting not to exercise the option, and keeping AD for one more year. With the guarantees kicking in, he'd count $1.59 mil against the cap in 2007 - not great but not a backbreaker - which would allow the team flexibility to bring in other players. They could then cut him in 2008, which would accelerate the rest of the money due him and result in a $7.4 mil hit, which is essentially what it would cost them in 2008 dead money to cut Arch Deluxe in 2007, and then they would be getting nothing from him at all next season.

That seems most logical to me as well. I think.

Also, if they did release him at any point, there are "offset" clauses built into his contract that would allow for some cap credits for the Skins. Like, say he is cut in 2008 as this last scenario explained, and then gets a $1 million signing bonus someplace else. That amount would be offset from the total cap hit the Skins would take.

Okay, my eyes are bleeding now. Who stole my abacus?

I hate math. I was always an English/history guy who could do the math/science thing. Please don't clamor for too much more of this stuff. That whole LaVar thing last year, with the CBA extension madness mixed in, nearly made me swallow my calculator.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 15, 2006; 9:37 PM ET
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Posted by: Redskins Suck | November 15, 2006 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that is one heckuva well paid special teams guy!!!

So is this structural? - meaning, he just doesn't fit into dub g's scheme either mental or physical skills-wise?

Or is it that he's not being used properly?

Pretty big bust if the situation stays as is . . .could be the worst addition ever by the Danny. OK, maybe Jeff George was the worst, but this has got to be #2.

Posted by: skinsfan@8Kabove MSL | November 15, 2006 9:57 PM | Report abuse

i saw the word "exercise" one too many times in your blog, and it reminded me of my wife yelling at me to get to the gym.

lifetime fitness, here i come.
thank goodness for 24 hour gyms.

Posted by: non-math major | November 15, 2006 10:09 PM | Report abuse

OK, maybe Jeff George was the worst, but this has got to be #2.

Wasn't George a lot cheaper?

That leadership stuff ...

Posted by: RMilot | November 15, 2006 10:11 PM | Report abuse

wait a minute...if they do the last scenario, which you think they will do, they'd end up paying AD his 595,000 + the 5 mill option.....
BUT...if they just cut him beforehand, and pay the 595, 1 mill, and 3.405M, they would pay only 5 million. AND of course have a 9 million cap hit.
i say just suck it up and take the big hit. it would be better than keeping his useless a$$ here and taking a 7.4M hit in '08. it'll open up a roster spot for another potential late round draft bloomer (i.e. Golston).

Posted by: non-math major | November 15, 2006 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for breaking that down Jason, I think we all wanted to know what the long and short term ramifications of letting Arch Deluxe go.

Posted by: Bryan | November 15, 2006 10:23 PM | Report abuse

jason, just one question does trading work in the nfl and salary cap?

say chicago wants him next year, does he have to renegotiate his contract with the skins before he could be traded to chicago? or can chicago just take him say for a 4th round pick(aaachu!) and reneg with him there and skins wash their hands?

Posted by: dealer | November 15, 2006 10:35 PM | Report abuse

In a trade scenario wouldn't end up with someone with a similar cap profile? or is that bball cap rules?

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | November 15, 2006 10:40 PM | Report abuse

non-math - the issue isn't how much he will get, it's all about the cap hit and tha last scneario I put out there allows you to keep him for another season and see how it goes, not give him the next $5 million all at once, and then, if you make the move in 08, it's a big nut to swallow, but essentially the same hit as if you cut him in 07.

A trade would be difficult unless the Skins were willing to pull a Coles and take a $9 million cap hit (all that money accelerates in the case of a trade). Chicago was not prepared to play anything close to what the Skins did from what I am told, and Adam could opt to re-do his entire contract to get out, easing the Skins cap hit - the only way a deal makes sense - but he would be walking away from a ton of guaranteed money, which is awful hard to come by in this business.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | November 15, 2006 10:48 PM | Report abuse

For cap purposes, trading a player is the same as waiving him -- the same bonus escalation rules apply, etc.

Posted by: CMoney | November 15, 2006 10:50 PM | Report abuse

let's see drew henson, cody banks (or whatever the F his name was), chad hutchinson, 2 donovan mcnaab wannabe QB's, shrew bled-somuch and now romo...brunell would get player of the week award had he played against the cards!

let's examine romo's performances:
1. 15 ints and 10 fumbles against the gents AT HOME! (sorry stopped counting)
2. Delhome suffered a seizure and kept handing off to romo
3. romo led O scores 19 points against the sucky skins defense! against a 50 year old safety and another that can't cover and is NOT AS GOOD AS troy williamson cuz you never see 31 trailing after any receiver on the highlights...nope, never.
4. ROMO BEAT THE CARDS!!!!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOOO!!!! so did ALEX F-ing SMITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and yes, JC will suck. but SO?

hey suck, 1-3 and 3 of 4!

Posted by: dealer | November 15, 2006 10:57 PM | Report abuse

While the team doesn't have any real money-related leverage, they always have playing-time-related leverage. Case in point, LaVar. He wanted out simply because he wanted PT and felt that he could recoup some of the money he was giving up in a new contract.

If the team makes clear to Arch that the plan is to forgo the option bonus, keep him for a year, Keyshawn him unless there are multiple injuries, and then cut him after June 1st 2008 to spread out the dead cap hit, Arch may very well be willing to renegotiate the remaining guaranteed money (i.e., the remaining base salaries that would become guaranteed) in exchang for his a release in 2007. Players want to get paid, but they also want to play.

Posted by: CMoney | November 15, 2006 11:03 PM | Report abuse

jason, i see coles thing happening in this case as well. after reading howard bryant's story and how chicago needs a safety.

at least the skins get something in return this way.

man, it kinda makes you feel bad for these players. all that money and they still not happy.

Posted by: dealer | November 15, 2006 11:04 PM | Report abuse

The difference here is they viewed Coles and LaVar as malcontents and thought they were bad infleunces on other plays. They don't see Adam that way, and I don't think they will give up on him so fast. I think they play it out one more year as I said and see what happens next season.
Chicago would give up no more than a conditional pick for the guy at this point - he can't crack what might be the worst secondary in the NFL right now - and by next season Chicago will be healthy at safety and you can't made a deal now anyway with the deadline passed.

After they re-sign Briggs and a few others I am not sure the Bears want to do anything for Arch - he's not getting any younger. Also, he isn't playing this season already, and he has the motivation of that additional $5 mil. If he walks away now and take less elsewhere, he's losing a lot of money and in a way would be quitting. I think he'll be motivated to show he can play here.

Also, with Coles and LaVar they wanted to bring other safeties in. here, they have Taylor and Vincent under contract, and could re-sign Prioleau if healthy pretty easily - I think he's up at the end of the year - and have Arch for cover only counting like $1.5 against the cap as insurance.

With Coles, they took a massive hit. LaVar was willing to forgo a big chunk of change, but that was because he knew he woulde get at least $5 mil to sign someplace.

Adam would be looking at a vet. min deal at this point and a minimal bonus, that;s a vastly difference scenario than the other two.

Anywho, just my read on it.
Okay, off to bed.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | November 15, 2006 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | November 15, 2006 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Okay anonymous that Bang cartoon was pretty f'in funny. Thanks for the link.

As for Archeybingus - that article about what's happened to him there were 2-3 quotes/parts talking about how he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. I wasn't clear how that related at all to his lousy performance but maybe he feels like his stinkin' it up on the field is made worse by his millions.

Maybe that will give a motivating chip on his shoulder and with another training camp etc. comes back next year and does good. Maybe?

Hey any cap room for a kicker who won't shank it every other try?

Jeff George . . . the horror . . . the horror . . . the horror. . .

Posted by: sfskin | November 16, 2006 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Insider Blog Injury Report:

BOOFER: Laryngitis (where you at?)
Dealer: insider trading disorder (ITD)
John from Herndon: Broken Heart
jm220: swelling of slapping hand
Salliemae: schizophrenia
Dorf: Acute Myopia, Frontal Lobe contusion from reading JLaC's # crunching facts past midnight.

Posted by: Dorf | November 16, 2006 12:30 AM | Report abuse


Could you pleaze explain this one more time (ha)!


Posted by: Pink C.C.- | November 16, 2006 1:58 AM | Report abuse

poopis portis will dress up as a running back today(funniest costume).

Posted by: Redskins Suck | November 16, 2006 6:54 AM | Report abuse

dealer,Big game in BIG D SUN.Vegas has Colts favored by 1.werent they favored by 10 or more against you guys. and didnt you beat the boys?guess Vegas didnt give your SORRY team credit for the win!

Posted by: Tony Romo | November 16, 2006 7:12 AM | Report abuse


That was funny. Archeybingus will get one more year and then I think they will cut him.

Posted by: jm220 | November 16, 2006 7:21 AM | Report abuse

It makes more sense to just keep him next year and hope for the best. Especially with him saying he's disappointed in his own level of play. Yeah, he's not the best cover safety in the NFL, but Grilliams will figure out a way to use him effectively (hopefully) and with an offseason to be out of the spotlight he may come back renewed.

I can see how getting that fat contract could swell his head and make him press to live up to it. Happens all the time. What doesn't happen all the time is a guy basically coming out and saying "Yeah, the money went to my head and I'm stinking up the joint." The dude lays wood to people when he doesn't miss the tackle and you might as well take advantage of his services if it's gonna cost you the same to cut him. Even if it's just on punt return or whatever he plays now...

Posted by: Posse Redux | November 16, 2006 8:14 AM | Report abuse


Another great write-up. Thank you.

And I'd also like to thank you for causing me to throw up all over my keyboard for the 8th consecutive post.

Has there been one bit of good news this season? Honestly, has there?

The whole Archuleta situation might be the worst as far as I'm concerned. I've been screaming bloody murder since they made the deal and my worst fears have obviously came true.

This is guy was an average safety, who not only can't cover, but they threw him into a system that doesn't suit him. So with all of those negatives, they go out and give him Ed Reed/Brian Dawkins money... heck, they gave him MORE. What sense does that make? Honestly?

When will this team learn? Seriously? Do you know what 7.8 mill of dead cap space can get you in one season? How about Ryan Clark, Antonio Pierce, and Fred Smoot, all "core" Redskins we let walk. It's almost enough to make you jump ship to that trashy team up north.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | November 16, 2006 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Good morning. One of the worst sports months in recent DC history was topped off by 2 or 3 things last night:

1- Wiz losing by TWENTY to the worst team in NBA history. Swallow Lava while watching the game...more fun.
2-Winthrop almost beats UNC. Why is this bad? They play and are going to beat the Terps Monday by 35. How does Gary not recruit any of those mid major studs, but instead goes for Nick Caner @hole???
3- Cooley - seperated shoulder for last few weeks. Probably permanent damage from doin the cheerleading captain in the hubblebuck. Next years starting TE - Chris "I just want to dance and make love" Fauria.

Thanks for heads up JLC. I'm looking for jobs where it's 75+ right now. If the skins aren't going to a SB in the next 3, you better believe I'm shaving 8 off my handi.



Posted by: Pub Golf | November 16, 2006 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Yup - it's as depressing of a situation as I thought. Then again, there's been a whole heck of a lot of that, this year. Sadly, it'll be two more seasons until the Skins have a shot at digging themselves out of the whole free agency vs. draft pick shabingation they've brought onto themselves.

Put the way as presented by JLaC, yeah, I think we're stuck with Archubingas for another season - the margins have to be pretty close on the salary cap, even with the cap wizardry we seem to be able to do, year in and year out. Given all the pressing needs we have for position depth (thanks to the sheer numbers of aging and oft-injured veteran players we stocked the pool with), the last thing we need is a massive cap hit.

Man, this is a deep pit the team's dug for itself, isn't it?

Posted by: FlimFlam | November 16, 2006 9:15 AM | Report abuse


Carolina was in a similiar situation with Thomas Davis, whom they drafted in the first round 2 years ago. He was drafted as a safety, he's roughly the same size as Arch, and had the same coverage problems that Arch had. This year they moved him to LB, and he's currently third on the team in tackles. With AA playing BETTER when he's closer to the line, would this move make sense, and has this idea been tossed around?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | November 16, 2006 9:22 AM | Report abuse

come on dealer give me a little luv!! cards defense shut down chicago(#1 team NFC)and I drove my team to the 17 yrd line in 30 seconds against you guys!!

Posted by: Tony Romo | November 16, 2006 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Say the Skins go up to him and say were gonna inactivate you for every single game next year. We want you out of our organization, please seek a trade, or you will just be paid to sit and watch everyone else have fun.

I know to us non-athletic types, were like yeah give me the million to do nothing. But for most athletes not being able to play when they can kills them. What TJ has been feeling has got to be terrible.

Posted by: Jake | November 16, 2006 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Arch Dlx has been bad (very bad) but so has the entire defense. Grilliams will get it right next year. He's had too much success to assume that he can't fix this.

Hopefully with a better line and Rocky starting at LB, Arch will be able to fit into the mix better next season. And by mix, I don't mean the punt protect mix.

Ricky Bobby, you don't consider Campbell starting to be good news? Buck up little buddy. That's VERY good news.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | November 16, 2006 9:30 AM | Report abuse

has this idea been tossed around?

Yes, and he would get steamrolled is the popular opinion.

Posted by: Megskin | November 16, 2006 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Do all contracts have those kind of clauses? To me it just screams "hey I suck but you're desperate for another jersey to sell so we'll put in all these clauses and guarenteed money in so were both happy"

Reminds me of:

Tommy: Let's think about this for a sec, Ted, why would somebody put a guarantee on a box? Hmmm, very interesting.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Go on, I'm listening.
Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?
Ted Nelson, Customer: What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times.
Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?
Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of SH__. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
Ted Nelson, Customer: [pause] Okay, I'll buy from you.

Posted by: Dorf | November 16, 2006 9:35 AM | Report abuse

The cartoon of Mark and Gibbs is funy.

But seriously, we need Marty to come back in here, resume his dual coach/GM role and clean house, replace everybody with draft picks, wait a second, we don't have any draft picks.

Is there any way we could send Adam to NFL Europe and get like a special rebate against the cap, he could become a French citizen maybe or something???

Now what happens if he gets injured (maybe thats why he is the captain of the teams eh, let's put him in on kick-offstoo breaking the wedge, get him holding the tackling dummy for Sean Taylor in practice eh, eh????)

But I guess that $5 mil gauroonteed money could buy a lot of work out tapes, maybe even a custom Archu gym in Zona with low profile step up gear.

Posted by: Anonymous | November 16, 2006 9:39 AM | Report abuse


I don't agree with what you're saying. He is not a good pass defender. He is a good run defender, and an ok blitzer. Lets not try and further SHOVE a round peg into a square hole. Put him in a situation where he can thrive, instead of just leaving him out there to get torched.

We don't know what will happen unless we tried it.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | November 16, 2006 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't agree with what you're saying.

I didn't say that was my opinion--heck, I wrote a whole article about how they should use the '46' defense, which would put him out on an island by himself (or at least it would look that way); I'm just saying what the most commonly held opinion by people seems to be.

Personally, I think Grilliams got him to be a run-stuffing safety--what the hell else can he do, he stinks.

Posted by: Megskin | November 16, 2006 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Everybody despairing of any good news, don't forget about those offset clauses. He'll sign somewhere for some bonus. Maybe somebody else will overpay him and the dead money hit won't be so bad.

At some point the brain trust will be chastened, and the draft-pick dispersals will cease. Or else that won't happen, and my beloved franchise is heading for oblivion.

Posted by: RMilot | November 16, 2006 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Jake is on the right track. Make him nothing but a special teams guy, don't cut him, avoid the cap hit. If he wants to be a full timer again he makes it worth your while to cut him. Or throw him on the IR every training camp when he tweaks something. It's a business, and if we have no incentive to cut him or play him, then why do either?

Posted by: cm202bc | November 16, 2006 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Quoting JLaC

"They could then cut him in 2008, which would accelerate the rest of the money due him and result in a $7.4 mil hit, which is essentially what it would cost them in 2008 dead money to cut Arch Deluxe in 2007, and then they would be getting nothing from him at all next season."

no offense but, are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!.......what have we goten from him this year except giving up a ton of points, i think we would be better off without that great quality of his. -----but do appreciate your research and insight.

Posted by: NEED A GM | November 16, 2006 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm just curious why everyone is in such a hurry to get rid of Archuleta?

Wouldn't he be playing better if Priloeau, Springs, and Rogers were all healthy from the beginning of the season? I thought that Arch was not brought here to crowd the line, stuff the run, and blitz the passer?

Posted by: disappointed | November 16, 2006 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Let's not forget that it was Archie who was covering Witten at the end of the Dallas game and he got torched then too. If you watch the replay AA looks like one of those cartoons where the character is running like a train. Very stiff and upright and head nodding forward for 'determination' effect. Not the ideal cover guy to say the least. If he can't cover TE's then he's gonna get picked on at LB also. Unless they just use him in run situations.

Posted by: Posse Redux | November 16, 2006 10:03 AM | Report abuse

At some point the brain trust will be chastened, and the draft-pick dispersals will cease

If you saw Gibbs presser last week(was it this week, or last week, anyone?) where he addressed JLaC's article about free-agency, he mentions that he believes that they are doing the right thing by going after free-agents and avoiding the draft.

The first real GM we get in here (ya, like that's ever going to happen) needs to strip Gibbs of his power over personnel decisions, and tell him to shut the eff up if he doesn't like it. He isn't a talent scout and has done a very poor job of playing GM.

Posted by: Megskin | November 16, 2006 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I didn't say it would happen in this decade.

Posted by: RMilot | November 16, 2006 10:06 AM | Report abuse

and it was last week. this week was the Campbell announcement

Posted by: RMilot | November 16, 2006 10:08 AM | Report abuse tell em megskin...he needs to stick to trying to regain that hall of fame coaching ability and fighting his guts out. stay away from personnel decisions!!!!!!!

Posted by: NEED A GM | November 16, 2006 10:10 AM | Report abuse

You guys act like the Desmond Howard pick didn't pan out. Oh, wait, it worked out for the Packers, not us...

Posted by: Posse Redux | November 16, 2006 10:18 AM | Report abuse


You are right. Campbell starting this week has been the best news I've heard all season. I just hope he's given more than 2, 3, and even the 7 remaining games this season. We need to have some patience with this one.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | November 16, 2006 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Pub Golf,

What is this hubblebuck manuever you speak of? ahahahaha

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | November 16, 2006 11:13 AM | Report abuse

To reinforce what Meg and Greg suggest;

Why don't we put Archuleta in for Warrick Holdman on clear passing downs? They're the same height and I HOPE that Archuleta has more ball awareness than Holdman, so you probably aren't sacrificing anything in the way of ball swatting ability. There isn't an enormous size differential as Holdman is only 10 pounds bigger than Archuleta. On clear passing downs this wouldn't make a big deal anyways.

And though he might be really bad in coverage, he can't be any worse than Warrick Holdman. Bring him in to cover a tight end or a running back or, even better, as a blitzer.

Also, given our game against Dallas I don't think we should undervalue the impact a Special Teams player can have. He's overpaid, for sure, but we can squeeze some good out of this guy on ST.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 16, 2006 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby,

I heart hubblebuck. u do too. Remember the Titan?

Posted by: Pub Golf | November 16, 2006 11:34 AM | Report abuse

america's team fans, sorry for the delay...
guess Vegas didnt give your SORRY team credit for the win

and they're the same people that think that cards team is an NFL team and arizona is a road game for dallas.

and about the dallas being a 1 point underdog against the colts (IF that is the case). it has more to do with how colts been winning AND not about dallas. they barely won against TENN, against BUFF! so i guess you getting Tenn, Buff treatment.

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 11:42 AM | Report abuse

about #17. i keep flip flopping about how he's gonna look. cuz we haven't seen anything special from him in the preseason. and he wasn't exactly mike vick in college neither. so i guess we'll get all our questions answered on sunday.

me thinks here's the game plan:
1. run
2. run
3. run
4. run
5. run
6. run
7. throw a 50 yard pass along the sidelines
8. run
9. run
10 run

umm me also think that he won't throw more than 15 passes in the game.

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 11:50 AM | Report abuse

i don't think we're going to see any short passes from JC. because things can go horribly wrong really fast if the other team intercepts a short pass.

ohh wait we talking about archie? yeah, archie should play as LB.

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 11:54 AM | Report abuse


Can you PLEASE get the answer to this question, is it me or Archy plucks his eye brow?

Posted by: John From Herndon | November 16, 2006 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Someone asked why we are in such a hurry to cut Archubingus. In the words of Samuel L Jackson, "Well, allow me to retort"...

1) It was a mistake to sing him to the RICHEST CONTRACT EVER for a safety

2) It was a mistake to allow a man who needs two seats on a plane (one for himself and another for his ego) to make a personell decision (Grilliams).

3) His skill set does not fit in NFL defenses (an undersized LB that does not take on blocks well, takes poor angles, cannot cover any opposing player).

4) He is now the most expensive special teams player ever and was replaced by a 40 year old man off the street who had been to 3 practices before suiting up.

That should get you started on finding the path to an answer. He is awful. He was awful in STL and he has been awful here. If it were my team, I would not let him in the locker room. Dead serious about that. I'd keep him away from my other guys. I'd make it so miserable for him that he's have no choice but to give back that money and try to go somewhere else. I'd have his stuff packed up in a laundry bag waiting in front of his locker with a note that reads: 'turn in your playbook meat'.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | November 16, 2006 12:02 PM | Report abuse

john, he gets it threaded or waxed. and he kinda looks like that "kid" who recently died on Prison Break. doesn't he?

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 12:06 PM | Report abuse


Can you PLEASE get the answer to this question, is it me or Archy plucks his eye brow?

Posted by: John From Herndon | November 16, 2006 12:00 PM "

uhhhhhh- it seems a LITTLE weird you would be so curious about that "john from herndon"

Posted by: vinny cerrato | November 16, 2006 12:08 PM | Report abuse


Classic retort... classic.

I obviously agree with all of your bullet points.

How ridiculous is it that we hear over and over and over again that "we are ALL in the decision making process THERE". Reeeeeeeeeally? So you're telling me that we have 42 coaches, or is it 142, and all of them have a say in who plays, who gets drafted, who we sign in free agency, etc? They sit around a room and "discuss" these things like me and my buddies would do at a fantasy football draft?

Now I'm just throwing this out there, but how much more efficient do you think it would be to have 1, ONE, UNO, person doing that crap? Can input be given by Assistants, Coordinators, Associate coaches (what a joke), absolutely. But to think that they sit around at a pow wow and make these decisions is horrifying to me.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | November 16, 2006 12:17 PM | Report abuse

This may be blinding, shocking optimsim (something I don't show every often), but I don't think Archuletta is as bad as he's played this season. I think Gregg brought him in to use him in creative ways in all the crazy formations that have 1 DL, 4 safeties and 6 cornerbacks. Unfortunately, none of that has worked out and Archy has been exposed over and over again by his biggest weakness: coverage.

While Gregg has shaken my faith in his defensive genius, I still believe in him. Gregg may not be a good GM but he would not have green-lighted this move if Archy didn't have a place in our defense.

This season has been a disaster on defense. Too many injuries. Carter, Archuletta, Holdman all being massive disappointments. Gregg will regroup next year and while we won't be a top 5 defense, we won't be bottom 10 like we are this year.

Basically as much as I hate Archy this year, I wouldn't cut him yet. I'd give him & gregg one more year together.

We have no choice.

Posted by: Clinton Hill | November 16, 2006 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Makes me wish we could rebuild the D with draft picks...sigh...

Posted by: B | November 16, 2006 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see the linebacking core next year: Marcus in the middle, Arch-Karai on the left, and Andre on the right. Shoot ur self. Grilliams needs to be put in his place. Should of let him go last year in hindsight. Can't wait till they nix him to replace Gibbs for Fisher.

Oh, and that kid who died on prison break defintely had it better in the showers than ArchaDupont does right now. Punt Team Captain...HAH! Rather be next on Silo's list for the cranium can opener.


Posted by: Pub Golf | November 16, 2006 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jason's editor | November 16, 2006 12:47 PM | Report abuse

High priced overrated actors in the owner's box. High priced overated free agent actors on the field. Here's hoping JC's a Tom Hanks/Samuel Jackson/insert a good actor's name here) about to be discovered.

Posted by: skinswest | November 16, 2006 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Listening to Redskins Lunch....Bram either doesn't watch the games or has been swallowed into Al Michael's homerism black hole. He actually just said that "Brunell's numbers suggest that he wasn't the problem" and "Brunell isn't a reason why this team is 3-6". Are you f-ing kidding me? How can anyone, outside of the spinsters, Gibbs, Saunders, etc, mutter such words and expect to retain ANY credibility? What a boob.

Posted by: CMoney | November 16, 2006 12:58 PM | Report abuse

skinswest - if he comes into the first post-game conference and shouts "There are ************* snakes on the ************* plane!" then all will be well. And he should start calling Gibbs "Wilson". ;)

Posted by: Posse Redux | November 16, 2006 1:06 PM | Report abuse

cmoney, GOTCHA!!!!!!! ehhh!!! yeah, the joke's on us.

we deserve better goshdamnit!

ummmm editor, thanks. OPRAH GOT SHUT OUT??!!! and danny's in? WOW!!! never saw that coming. what's oprah's fault? for having a couch? (for her guests?)

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 1:06 PM | Report abuse

TO SIT!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes, more TomKat news. So happy for Danny Boy that he got invited to their wedding. Next thing you know he'll be trying to convert JG to scientology.

I'll always remember what Coles and Arrington said after they left... I don't have their exact words but it was something like this... "so happy to have moved on because in NY it's about FOOTBALL"...

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not too fond of Coles and Arrington, but do you disagree with them or not believe what they said? I sure as hell don't.

It's a circus in DC. You have TomKat in one corner, Six Flags in another corner, and a fire-eater in yet another the other, although I heard we signed the fire-eater to a 400 billion dollar deal only to find out he couldn't eat fire and now we have to take a 30 billion cap hit on him.

When the Nazi learns to focus on just football, hire a GM, and practice something I like to call patience, maybe, just maybe, we can turn this around.

Ah nevermind, I just heard a rumor he's on Redskin One flying to Neverland Ranch to pick up Jack-o for kids day at FedEx sponsored by POPEYEEEEEEEEEES. LOVE THAT CHICKEN FROM POPEYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEES!!!!! KILL ME

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | November 16, 2006 1:08 PM | Report abuse

That bangcartoon has been passed around more than Redskins Suck's girlfriend.


Great blog entry. Top 5. I still hold out desperate hope that this guy isn't all about the money and may give back some for the chance to get in a D he thinks he could contribute in.

I know he took the money to come here but I think he may have felt that money= a team seeing his qualities as well as Grilliams stellar record.

Posted by: Skinz | November 16, 2006 1:11 PM | Report abuse

sorry, i just answered my own questions as to why oprah wasn't invited.

she doesn't like child molesters.

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 1:14 PM | Report abuse

That bangcartoon has been passed around more than Redskins Suck's girlfriend.

okay skinz, that was so lame. that it was actually LOL funny.

sucks, please don't reply unless your reply includes "na-uh!"

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 1:18 PM | Report abuse

DEALER, those cards your busting on are the ones your SORRY team barely beat(4pts)last yr in the BIG 5 game win streak!as a matter a fact 3 of the 5 were below 500 the eagles started mcmahon and the other 2 had injurys at key positions that were at fed ex!!but thats why your team really SUCKS and YOU didnt see it coming!!this year your team cant even beat the bad teams!!

Posted by: Redskins Suck | November 16, 2006 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Rick Bob, I think Snyder is Jewish. Maybe it's not cool to call him a Nazi.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | November 16, 2006 1:29 PM | Report abuse

For that matter, maybe it's not cool to call anyone a nazi. Except for the Nazis, that is.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | November 16, 2006 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Suck - Doesn't the Dallas Morning News have a blog?

Posted by: etrod | November 16, 2006 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I also believe that another one of those big 5 games was a 28 point win over the Cowboys...which key players were they missing, besides Tony Romo?

Posted by: etrod | November 16, 2006 1:36 PM | Report abuse

your SORRY team barely beat(4pts)last yr in the BIG 5 game win streak!

last year? you mean the glory days for us skins fans? thank you. thank you for reminding us of the year that we made the playoffs and were one dropped int away (thanks rogers!) from being in the nfc champ. game. i would return the favor but i can't think that far back for a dallas playoff W. sorry. i guess we owe you one.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm aah yes cooley looked like tony gonzalez, portis looked like LT, moss looked like steve smith, our D looked pi$$ed off, jansen was actually blocking people, mark, well mark looked like mark, good for one bomb weather it was a completion or not.

*Sigh* those were the days...

Posted by: dealer | November 16, 2006 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Ricky Bobby,

easy with the slurs. Just stick to Gordan Gecko. He is, afterall, a base-impassioned-capitalist who likes to go to the grocery store in his private jet. geeez. And I don't know about the Jacko comments either. He hasn't been found guilty, so, calling him a molester is like calling OJ a killer. The justice system in this country is tip top, right next to Iran.


Posted by: Pub Golf | November 16, 2006 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it's another day in the Cirque de Peaux Rouge, with more things to opine on.

GREGilliGan - He's not the entire reason why the defense made a stinking craptacle of a show this season, but he's a big contributor. His reliance on a system rather than player talent hasn't panned out. As to letting him go, though, I'm not sold on that boat. He can put out a system that works, but it'll take him eating the humble pie and hopefully getting things working by next season. If he doesn't, then it's off to the nunnery with him.

Archubingas - Maybe he'd be an OK linebacker. Right now isn't the time to find out. The defense is already so broken, that trying to patch things now would cause more harm than good. Experiments are best tried in the offseason.

Of course, given that we really don't have any reason to worry about harming ourselves at this low point...

The Souper - Let's hope that Al Saunders plays Campbell in the manner his offense was meant to be played. It'd be a test for both The Souper AND Alsau-Ran's offensive concepts. I'm interested in seeing what this offense is capable of with a newer, possibly better QB.

Posted by: FlimFlam | November 16, 2006 2:02 PM | Report abuse


There goes my buzz ... gotta headache now.

Posted by: SallieMae | November 16, 2006 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Geez... I can't believe I didn't realize what I was saying. I think you guys understand what I was TRYING to say, but regardless, I still should have known better.

Apologies if I offended anyone.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | November 16, 2006 2:06 PM | Report abuse

You didn't offend me Ricky. Let's not be so sensitive folks.

I found out who Redskins Sucks is. Bryan James Hathaway. Here is a story about him.

Posted by: Skinz | November 16, 2006 2:13 PM | Report abuse

At least Jeff George was a lot more talented, remember those rope throws 15-20 yards while he was backpeddling?
The biggest problem with JG was that he was a jerk and always audibled to the hail mary.

What a that so bad. I mean, at least he would throw the ball down the field.

Posted by: BT | November 16, 2006 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Bryan James Hathaway = Redskins opponent's offenses

Deer = Redskins defense

Maybe we can get a law passed to prevent future abuse.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 16, 2006 2:43 PM | Report abuse

SI had a story once about how Jeff George used to draw up his own plays on the sideline while Turner wasn't looking. My guess is most of the plays sounded like the old "everybody go out" play we used to call in 6th grade.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | November 16, 2006 2:44 PM | Report abuse

You know you're in trouble when your best defense for pleasuring yourself with a dead animal is a quote from The Princess Bride. "There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead." Yikes.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | November 16, 2006 2:50 PM | Report abuse

BT - seriously Jeff George? Having an arm is nice - as we've learned with MB - but I'll take a noodle arm anytime anyplace anywhere over JG who cared about the team about as much as Dave Butz caring if his a** looked to big in his pants.

the horror . . . the horror . . . the horror . . .

Posted by: sfskin | November 16, 2006 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I am not a lawyer ... it's just me.

But doesn't ArchiLedbutt have a clause somewhere in his contract that says he has to actually cover somebody, ANYBODY?

Maybe they can invoke that clause and dump this turkey (had to use that word what with the holiday coming up).

Posted by: Just Me | November 16, 2006 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey dealer some stats for you on Romo since you are either blind or in denial.

Against Carolina
Completions 24 Attempts 36 (66%) Yards 270 Avg 7.5 per TDs 1 Ints 1
Against Washington
Completions 24 Attempts 36 (66%) Yards 284 Avg 7.9 per TDs 2 Ints 0
Against Cardinals
Completions 20 Attempts 29 (68%) Yards 308 Avg 10.6 per TDs 2 Ints 0

You can only hope Campbell does that well.

Posted by: Anonymous | November 16, 2006 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Greg(Boston) ... and respectfully parting ways with Meg and AMTTS on how to recover some of the value from Archubingus. J-La's opener showed that the Skins are going to be out some coin regardless, so there has to be a way to extract some value (i.e., pennies on the dollar). And I think that way is to move him to the LB position for running downs. With that kind of out-of-pocket loss, I think they should also make him wear green curly toed boots and dance jigs before and after pre-season practice sessions ... and not just dance, but dance his guts out.

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2006 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The only reason Arch's cap is such a big deal is because the Skins push it so hard each year. Complex contracts are driving bad football decisions. Leave some cap room and this whole issue becomes much more managable. Its hard to imagine that Snyder has not figured it out. Not every free agent turns into a Pro Bowler. Actually, NONE of them has. You have to figure that some situations will not work and be able to undo the damage QUICKLY and at a reasonable price

Posted by: AL | November 16, 2006 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, which ever way you slice it, the Arch Duke of Canteberry is gonna get paid and perhaps be the highest special teams player ever! What a joke the skins personnel dept is.

Posted by: D-sizzle | November 16, 2006 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Everybody worries about our cap problems, but the financial geniuses in the front office always find a way to work that out. There are enough contract options to rework the cap to fit every year. They have always found a way to pay players and keep the team below the cap, and I expect that they will continue to do so. Selecting the right "football players" has been the problem.

Posted by: Max | November 16, 2006 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't even think we could play Archie at linebacker, because I believe he lacks the speed to even cover the TE's.

Posted by: Max | November 16, 2006 5:10 PM | Report abuse


The front office hasn't made this many bad decisions in such a short period of time before. I worry about their ability to "work the magic" given that the only "magic" that saved us last year was a league-wide rise in the Salary Cap. That's not going to happen for a few years.

Also, I doubt whether Archuleta is slower than linebackers.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 16, 2006 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Still Sad in Elkton Va

Posted by: Tooneycat | November 20, 2006 5:06 AM | Report abuse

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