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Posted at 4:11 PM ET, 01/20/2011

Post Sports Live: NFL conference championships

By Washington Post editors

Lavar Arrington, Cindy Boren and Rick Maese preview Sunday's games and debate whether they'd rather have Aaron Rodgers or Ben Roethlisberger as their starting quarterback.

By Washington Post editors  | January 20, 2011; 4:11 PM ET
 
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Steelers and Packers will win this weekend... and Pitt will get it's 7th championship.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

At last, the next video post.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 20, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

So what do they say?

...what?

I'm not watching it.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 20, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Now this video should be watched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POyFvDgV2cU

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 20, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Yay, a video!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 20, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Kiper and McShay have us taking Newton at 10. How do the Bills and the Cards pass on Cam?? For who, Gabbert?? Locker?? Please, those guys can't hold a match to Newton's farts..What , is it to cold for the Negro in Buffalo?? It damn sure might be in Arizona- when was the last time they had a black quarterback??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

Posted by: frak | January 20, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I can't hold my own farts - but I'm also pretty special.

Posted by: bangkokben | January 20, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Here's a little something different to discuss...Barnes:

http://www.skinstalk.com/2011/01/building-kevin-barnes-young-db-hopes-to.html?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Nice post scampbell...good to see something positive on YOUNG talent.

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

scamp- Barnes also scored a 41 on his wonderlic. No surpise that he's a Terp.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 20, 2011 6:28 PM | Report abuse

A couple of comments on things I noticed in the playoff games last week.

First, when ATL returned the kickoff for a TD, I thought that it might actually help GB. The Packers had just run off a 13(?) play drive, so the ATL defense had to be a bit tired, even though it was only the 2nd quarter.

Sure enough, GB gets the ball back and goes on another long drive for a TD. By the clock, ATL went 14 minutes without running an offensive play!! I'm sure their defense was tired -- and perhaps sapped their energy for the rest of the game.

GB dominated, ATL's defense never stopped GB until it didn't matter. And they might have anyway.

Its not the only time that I've seen a "big play" return turn into a double-edged sword -- especially if the other team's offense gets to run 25 or so plays in a row.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone actually watch these? Can we get a video TL;DW? (Too long; didn't watch)

Posted by: WishboneJr | January 20, 2011 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Second was Belichek's coaching move. With 2:25 to go, and down 10, the Pats were at the Jets 25 yd line with 2 timeouts left.

I'm thinking a smart coach kicks the FG. You kick it, pull within 1 score. Then you'll have the option to kick deep or try an onside kick. If you kick deep and can get a 3 and out, you likely get the ball back with abut 100 seconds left and 60 yards to go to tie it and no timeouts. Not great, but you're definitely in the game.

Instead, they wind up throwing the ball, gaining a few more yards and waste the 2 minute warning time out on offense.

I've never understood why coaches -- EVERY TIME -- don't stop and realize they need 2 scores -- and it doesn't matter which comes first.

At that point in the game, it was a longshot to win. But to extend the game the most, you want to use timeouts when you are on defense, not on offense.

It was a bad decision by Belichek, but its also a bad move I've seen over and over again made by lots of good coaches.

I don't know why.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT on Cam Newton...

I'm not saying the Redskins should or should not pick Cam Newton. What I am trying to understand why so many fans are dead-set against drafting a QB at #10. It seems to me that most are saying fill the other holes, then settle for some medicore "meatball" to put back there, similar to Mark Rypien.

I think the Redskins should trade back or draft the best player available. If it's a QB, so be it. So many teams are wrong on first round QB's, but so many have been right.

Most say don't draft a QB at 10 but dread the possiblity of Rex Grossman as the starter for 2011.

I don't think you go into a draft saying we're not going to draft a QB at 10 because we're scared he'll be a bust. Sure they have other holes to fill, but they have more picks plus 400+ free agents.

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I think the Redskins should trade back or draft the best player available.
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Most say don't draft a QB at 10
Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 6:49 PM
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I believe that for most people the issue is the belief that even if NONE of the available QBs are drafted by #10 there will still be a better 'best player available.'

Another facet of that argument is whether it wouldn't be just as 'effective' for us to draft a QB project in the later rounds as it would be to draft a QB project in the 1st (this is assuming you believe that none of the QBs slated for the first are ready to start).

I'd say at this point it's really too early to effectively argue the point either way.

For the record I'm for drafting the 'best player available' as determined by our scouts/FO. Be that a QB or other.

Posted by: hoder | January 20, 2011 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you hoder!

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Cam Newton. I really don;t know much about him, saw much of his bowl game, but that's it.

Here's the thing. We've got all kinds of holes and issues to address. A QB is among the more 'hit or miss' spots in the draft. And we really can't afford a miss.

We got 1 guy from the 2010 draft who will have a significant impact in 2011: Trent Williams. None of the rest (including Riley and McNabb) are guys people expect to be significant in 2011.

This follows years of underachieving drafts. Bottom line, we really should stay away from the 'hit or miss' choices -- and focus on those that offer a high probability of fixing a known issue (we have no shortage of those). I have no problem with trading down if we can address more by doing that.

One thing for sure, 1 guy won't fix everything.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Just ask Rex Footie Ryan..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrTaxovxM_0

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 20, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Thanks.

Nice clip of DHall tackling LaDanian Tomlinson and Rex Ryan wetting his pants over it .

I remember that game.

Hall had an INT.

Posted by: p1funk | January 20, 2011 11:56 AM

Rex was making a point that it was DHall's 3rd attempt at tackling the RB, p1funk.
And, btw, he is referring to his brother, the new DC for Dallas, who cut DHall in Oakland.
Did you even watch the video?

Posted by: reader51 | January 20, 2011 7:29 PM | Report abuse

sicwidit

It seems to me that most are saying fill the other holes, then settle for some medicore "meatball" to put back there, similar to Mark Rypien.

They are the people who haven't come to terms with the fact the NFL is now a quarterback driven league--countless stats point out that this past season, more NFL touchdowns were scored via the pass than run.

They want second rate passers, but hated JC, mock DM5, and cuss Rex.

Why?

They are a confused group.

They know what they don't want but want it.

They think Tra Thomas is hidded somewhere in M Pouncey's jockstrap.

They live in houses with picture tube televisions and rotary phones.

To them the missionary position is a kneeling nun on Easter Sunday.

The Earth, they say, is flat on NFL Sunday, and round the length of the MLB season for a reason.

They haven't noticed that a couple of teams with excellent o-lines, running games, and passers--colts/falsons/ravens/pats/chiefs--have lost in the playoffs to teams with stellar defensive lines.

Stopping people is what you must do today as the old school adage of defenses winning championships never goes out of style.

In fact, I'd say the stillers/packers/bears all feature defensive lines far and above better than their teams offensive lines.

This suggests to smart redskins fans that some studs should be drafted (NT and de-end, olb) and added to the defense's front wall.

Excellent defense isn't just a thing of the future.

It's one of many things we must do in order to return to our glorious past.

And that's the thing we want.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 20, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

"I think the Redskins should trade back or draft the best player available.
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Most say don't draft a QB at 10
Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 6:49 PM"

Bruce Allen's drafting skills are NOT a given, and it's a tossup if they are all that effective..The QB position is CRUCIAL for the success of Shanny's offense- don't skimp at this position: GET THE BEST ONE..It's either Newton this year VS. Luck next year..Frankly kinda awestruck at Luck's accuracy, he's a young Elway , and would be a perfect fit..Give McNabb a chance to absorb this new system (like Cutler was afforded), bolster the line with Pouncey , or the DL with one of the strong class this year, and roll with Luck next year..

Posted by: frak | January 20, 2011 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Just ask Rex Footie Ryan..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrTaxovxM_0

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 20, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Thanks.

Nice clip of DHall tackling LaDanian Tomlinson and Rex Ryan wetting his pants over it .

I remember that game.

Hall had an INT.

Posted by: p1funk | January 20, 2011 11:56 AM

Rex was making a point that it was DHall's 3rd attempt at tackling the RB, p1funk.
And, btw, he is referring to his brother, the new DC for Dallas, who cut DHall in Oakland.
Did you even watch the video?

Posted by: reader51

Yeah, Rex's shot was pretty funny. Though his brother wasn't the one that cut Hall, Al Davis made that call. And it was mostly over $$.

Not long after that, DHall picked Sanchez near the goal line -- pretty sure it was on that same series.

Still, Rex has his team still playing and we don't, so its pretty clear who gets the last laugh.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Flatlined...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 8:16 PM | Report abuse

It would be best for the NFL's tarnished image if the Steelers lost to the Jets on Sunday. After all the probs they have had with domestic violence you can imagine how icky it would be if Roeth and the Steelers make it to the Super Bowl. The dude forced himself on some woman and it was only because peeps was paid off that there wasn't some LT like registered sex offender shti to hit the fan. LT was too poor to pay anybody off. The dud is a real mess.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 20, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Allen's drafting skills are NOT a given, and it's a tossup if they are all that effective..The QB position is CRUCIAL for the success of Shanny's offense- don't skimp at this position: GET THE BEST ONE..It's either Newton this year VS. Luck next year..Frankly kinda awestruck at Luck's accuracy, he's a young Elway , and would be a perfect fit..Give McNabb a chance to absorb this new system (like Cutler was afforded), bolster the line with Pouncey , or the DL with one of the strong class this year, and roll with Luck next year..

Posted by: frak
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I say:

> no reason to pick a QB at # 10 if they ain't worth it, that'd be almost like giving a high # 2 pick for a Donovan McNabb hahaha *cough*
> I LIKE athleticism in a QB (Locker, Newton) but I ABSOLUTELY NEED great accuracy (especially high in the draft) - DON'T draft any QB's with mediocre accuracy.
> a couple people on this blahg seem to indicate we can get Luck next year if we want to. I just don't get that, unless we're either picking very high or are willing to give up 3 firsts ++
> based on what I've heard/read here & elsewhere re: the draft and FA, I pretty much like what Dies44's been saying: use our # 1 for front 7 defense (probably LB or DE), as that's where the serious talent is in this draft's first round (and btw I agree with what MoeMoe said above re: the overriding importance of the D front 7), and probably our # 2 also (NT here would be great)... and (before that) get both a great, young C and OG thru FA (we have lots of cap room to get 2 OL stars).

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Rex has his team still playing and we don't, so its pretty clear who gets the last laugh.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 7:47 PM

Rex is the new breed HC.. Can relate to players making 10x's what he makes. Wish we had him.. First prototype was John Gruden..
Shannahan is egotistical old school HC.. "my way or the highway".... ala Coughlin, Marty Schottenheimer etc.. Today's NFL Players burn out on that personality and coaching style especially at the critical end of the season (just examine the W-L curve on these Head Coaches..and its obvious).

Posted by: reader51 | January 20, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge, you rockin a new handle?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 20, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I say I'll tolerate crappy rexy if we get put in a position to get Luck next year, and in the process fill some of the holes at other positions. Luck >>>>>>> Newton. Luck is virtually ready now, and has another year to improve all the IQ things a QB does (read defenses, put in protection schemes based on the D, read the field after the play starts, etc.). Newton is a project, like JC was except Newton's only sports psychologist need is to learn to stay out of trouble. Luck will be at the level of an NFL QB before Newton is despite Newton getting drafted a year earlier.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | January 20, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Flatlined...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 8:16 PM

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You need controversy scrambly! This will help...Isn't it funny how three of the remaining teams in the playoffs have below average O-lines?

Two of the offensive lines GB and Pitt were so bad that they used their first picks on offensive linemen in the 2010 draft. And we fans know that it takes more than one first round pick to build the line.

And Chicago? Their o-line makes ours look like the hoover dam.

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 8:32 PM | Report abuse

It would be best for the NFL's tarnished image if the Steelers lost to the Jets on Sunday. After all the probs they have had with domestic violence you can imagine how icky it would be if Roeth and the Steelers make it to the Super Bowl. The dude forced himself on some woman and it was only because peeps was paid off that there wasn't some LT like registered sex offender shti to hit the fan. LT was too poor to pay anybody off. The dud is a real mess.

Posted by: JumboJimbo
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I don't think you're giving enough credit to the suave Mr. Ruthlessboinker. It was SHE who physically forced him into the romantic bathroom stall dalliance. Just because she's half his size, don't assume...

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Luck=Elway, he's the obvious motor for the offense..The clamor for him will be loud and it'll cost, so make good use of this year's deep free agent class, I'd say..

Posted by: frak | January 20, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge, you rockin a new handle?

Posted by: RomoLongballs

ummm since you haven't figured it out yet, there are really only about 13 posters here on RI with 3 of them(beep-beep, chia_pet,moe) using about 50 different handles.

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 8:37 PM | Report abuse

We all know how Rex Ryan was paased over for the Balt HC job because their owner is a panty waist and didn't like his loud-mouth 'tude. But Rex is more than just a blowhard. He knows when to pile on and when to pull back. Even though the Jets have only one SB win to their credit they are an iconic NFL fran because of the Joe Willie swagger in SB III. Rex makes Goodell a little nervous with his shtick but it is good media copy so all-in-all it comes out a plus. There have been a few misfires like the sideline tripping incident, the Jen Sterger incident and the Mex temptress incident but nothing pissah bad like the Vick dog-killer shti or the Roeth sex offense coverup.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 20, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Luck=Elway, he's the obvious motor for the offense..The clamor for him will be loud and it'll cost, so make good use of this year's deep free agent class, I'd say..

Posted by: frak
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Starting Rexy all next season should give us the # 1 pick.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 8:39 PM | Report abuse

"Two of the offensive lines GB and Pitt were so bad that they used their first picks on offensive linemen in the 2010 draft. And we fans know that it takes more than one first round pick to build the line."

Yeah, but that Beluga pick put the Pack in the playoffs and spared Rodgers a grisly and horrific end..

Posted by: frak | January 20, 2011 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I watched the Post video.

The RexTube was better...

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 20, 2011 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but that Beluga pick put the Pack in the playoffs and spared Rodgers a grisly and horrific end..

Posted by: frak | January 20, 2011 8:40 PM

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I like totally agree. You could put Rex Grossman, or Brady Quinn, hell even Tim Tebow on that Packers roster and they would still be in the NFC Championship game. That's how unimportant the QB is!

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Rex has his team still playing and we don't, so its pretty clear who gets the last laugh.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 7:47 PM

Rex is the new breed HC.. Can relate to players making 10x's what he makes. Wish we had him.. First prototype was John Gruden..
Shannahan is egotistical old school HC.. "my way or the highway".... ala Coughlin, Marty Schottenheimer etc.. Today's NFL Players burn out on that personality and coaching style especially at the critical end of the season (just examine the W-L curve on these Head Coaches..and its obvious).

Posted by: reader51

Rex does what a good coach should do. He puts his players where they need to be and gets them motivated to play hard. Its not much different than what Gregg Williams did in his best days here.

I can see why the Jets players love him. But its not the only style that works.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 8:48 PM | Report abuse

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Just imagine, if the Patriots had drafted Jamarcus Russell instead of Tom Brady, Jamarcus would have three Superbowl rings right now. That Tom is so overrated! All those probowlers masked overrated Tom's exaggerated skill set.

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure I've never had a picture turn out quite as wrong as this one:

http://www.someecards.com/2011/01/18/lighting-in-picture-makes-girl-look-like-accidental-transsexual

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 20, 2011 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Excellent defense isn't just a thing of the future.

It's one of many things we must do in order to return to our glorious past.

And that's the thing we want.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 20, 2011 7:34 PM

Cosign. while finding a qb that would excel in the Lil Shanny scheme is job #1, getting the defense needs to be priority as well. They have to get to the point where they are able to have at least 3 impact players in the D front 7 so that they don't have to rely on Haslett to out scheme his opposition (70% - 30% proposition).

Posted by: TWISI | January 20, 2011 8:58 PM | Report abuse

twisi

getting the defense needs to be priority as well.


Building our defense with the right defensive line pieces will make the linebackers better, secondary better, shorten fields,...

...if you want to win with mediocre late round quarterbacks, you're also chosing to build a monstah defense and special teams.

We got mediocre quarterbacking.

Let's use this draft to build a shutdown defense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 20, 2011 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I like totally agree. You could put Rex Grossman, or Brady Quinn, hell even Tim Tebow on that Packers roster and they would still be in the NFC Championship game. That's how unimportant the QB is!

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 8:48 PM |

You like totally agree? What are you, a 12 year old girl? Oh wait, you actually are, sorry.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Starting Rexy all next season should give us the # 1 pick.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 8:39 PM | R

While I'm not a Rex Grossman fan at all (I actually can't stand him) he played every bit as well as McScabb and we didn't come in last.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:13 PM | Report abuse

As we gaze upon the teams in the conf champs we see two org models that are interesting to contemplate:

1. Da Bears. They did everything that Snyderato would have done and it worked! Gave up a dickload of draft picks to get a star QB. Signed $$$ expensive FA DL and the dude made the pro bowl and the team's D is vastly improved. And to top it all off they have a HC that doesn't humiliate his star players in public and has no probs with a former HC being his OC.

2. The Pack. Rebuilt the team through the draft and smart personnel decisions. Drafted a future elite QB with the 24th pick (lessee, the Skins are picking at 10 ...). Drafted good on D too - Rajii, Matthews, Williams. And like the Bears, hired a former HC to mastermind things, in the this case on the D side.

3. The Jets. They are kind of a hybrid model - some draft, some FA. Got San in the draft and while he has his detractors the dude is money in playoff games. Also got Revis in the draft. Got Tom, Ed, Holmes, Crow and others through FA (mebbe a trade here and there).

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 20, 2011 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Rex is the new breed HC.. Can relate to players making 10x's what he makes. Wish we had him.. First prototype was John Gruden..
Shannahan is egotistical old school HC.. "my way or the highway".... ala Coughlin, Marty Schottenheimer etc.. Today's NFL Players burn out on that personality and coaching style especially at the critical end of the season (just examine the W-L curve on these Head Coaches..and its obvious).

Posted by: reader51 | January 20, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Rex Ryan only looks like a genius when that crap works. You can win with many styles. Raheem Morris is a good young coach...a rah..rah guy. That may work for them, but what people forget is that the Jets and Bucs are talented and can back up that swag...not the Skins yet!

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Hayney wants Philly...so trade his ass to Buffalo:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41182977/ns/sports-player_news/

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:21 PM | Report abuse

JumboJimbo....

Good Analysis and it goes to show that there's more than one way to build a team. It didn't work for us because Cerrato and Gibbs could not pick true talent and overpaid for mediocre talent. Being free agent heavy only works if you have "master" talent evaluators.


When people say "build through the draft"...that's important, but how the fugg can you JUST build through the draft unless you suck for 4 or 5 years.

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 8:34 PM |

Oogalaboogala
My dog Rover
He does tricks for Licknloveher
Sometimes niner
Sometime tenner
Oogalaboogala
My dog Rover

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 20, 2011 9:34 PM | Report abuse

A lot can happen when FA hits that will determine what the Skins do in the draft.

I really don't care who they draft to be honest.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 20, 2011 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Hayney wants Philly...so trade his ass to Buffalo:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41182977/ns/sports-player_news/

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Haha, right on, Scamp.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 20, 2011 9:36 PM | Report abuse

silkydee

...you suck for 4 or 5 years...


There's a whole lotta celebrities, sports teams, politicians, products, music groups, that fit this model:

--the Knicks

--the Browns

--the Kansas City Royals

--R Kelly

--Nancy Peloisi

--Jerry Bruckheimer movies

--East Coast rappers in general

--the Big 10 specifically

--Comedy Central without Chappelle

--the Neptunes

--the Detriot Lions

--the Nets

--Jenna Jameson (oops, sucking is her job, though--does that count?)

--Dick Chaney

Beavis: He said Dick Chaney sucks.

Butthead: Dick sucks?

He does this to himself?

Boy is he lucky.

And gay.

Just like this post is.

Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh....

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 20, 2011 9:37 PM | Report abuse

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Careful posting "Heh-heh", Moe...

Detective Beep-Beep will match/accuse you of being other posters that use "Heh-heh"

It will look something like this:

Heh Heh

Posted by:Tubular Bells

Heh Heh

Posted by;MistaMoe

you guys are busted!

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

iH8dallas

I really don't care who they draft to be honest.

I don't care who they draft, either.

But I love pretending like I do.

That way when they pick who I want, I look like a genius.

And when they don't pick who I want, not caring allows me to stay cool and above the fray.

You can't help but win either way.

Unless, of course, you're a loser like me.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 20, 2011 9:46 PM | Report abuse

A lot can happen when FA hits that will determine what the Skins do in the draft.

I really don't care who they draft to be honest.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 20, 2011 9:34 PM

Unless, of course, things continue as they are and the draft comes first.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:48 PM | Report abuse

iH8dallas

I really don't care who they draft to be honest.

I don't care who they draft, either.

But I love pretending like I do.

That way when they pick who I want, I look like a genius.

And when they don't pick who I want, not caring allows me to stay cool and above the fray.

You can't help but win either way.

Unless, of course, you're a loser like me.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 20, 2011 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Exactly!

Plus we have zero control over it, so sitting back and watching the show is all I can do.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 20, 2011 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I would excuse the Skins if they outright released McNabb, but no way in HELL would I release Haynesworth without some sort of return...

I'm no Shanahan hater but he shoulda jumped on that 4th rounder they offered for Haynesworth from Tennessee.

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 9:52 PM | Report abuse


Fools, pity the fools on this board that think this team is improving. The trade for McNabb is just a preview of the things to come. But the fools buy into this boat load of crap annually. Fools !!!

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 20, 2011 9:54 PM | Report abuse

iS rex ryan posting as flip flops?

It's just a phase flip flop...just a phase.

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 9:58 PM | Report abuse

GM SICWIDIT

RB- Ryan Torain may prove to be a starter in for this team, but we need that RB that can take it to the house at any time. KEEPER

QB- Grossman gets not respect and being on the Skins doesn't help. With more talent, Rex can get us to maybe 8-8 or 9-7, but he's not the answer. We need a franchise QB. It's a passing league.

OLINE- Played well in the last quarter of the season...We need two guards and a center IMMEDIATELY.

WR- After watching these playoffs, we're not even close....all these cats are 6'1" and over. Armstrong is good depth/slot. If Kelly pans out it's a plus.

TE- Tough analysis...I might trade Cooley. Davis is just as atheltic and Cooley doesn't block much better. we've got Paulsen as the #3 TE. If I can get a 3rd or 4th for Cooley...goodbye Captain Chaos.

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 10:04 PM | Report abuse


skinshaveaGM

It's just a phase flip flop...just a phase.

A 20 year phase, half of the time under danny boy. Fool !! Maybe, just maybe, it's a 30 or 40 year phase. Fool !!!

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 20, 2011 10:09 PM | Report abuse

A 20 year phase, half of the time under danny boy. Fool !! Maybe, just maybe, it's a 30 or 40 year phase. Fool !!!

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 20, 2011 10:09 PM |

Well you got one thing right, skinshaveaGM/perineum is indeed a fool.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Hayney wants Philly...so trade his ass to Buffalo:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41182977/ns/sports-player_news/

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:21 PM
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Don't shovel that manure into New York state! Does Santa Barbara have an amateur team that would take him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 20, 2011 10:13 PM | Report abuse

iS rex ryan posting as flip flops?

It's just a phase flip flop...just a phase.

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 9:58 PM
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Dunno. Wave your foot in front of his nose and see if he goes for it...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 20, 2011 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Fools, pity the fools on this board that think this team is improving. The trade for McNabb is just a preview of the things to come. But the fools buy into this boat load of crap annually. Fools !!!

Posted by: Flip_Flop
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I bet Mr. T here sprays a lot when he says "fool", given that he's 60-something and gummin it.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Well you got one thing right, skinshaveaGM/perineum is indeed a fool.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 10:12 PM

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Must be that time of month again. You, however, put the tampon in the wrong hole.

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 10:21 PM | Report abuse


I bet Mr. T here sprays a lot when he says "fool", given that he's 60-something and gummin it.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 20, 2011 10:15 PM |

Dream all you want about draft picks and free agents, fool. Allen has already given you his blueprint. Yet you're fool enough to dream that it will be a winning reality ? Again, pity the fools.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 20, 2011 10:22 PM | Report abuse

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Why are all the posters who use an underscore in their names = dooshbags?

Is there some psychological reason as to why dooshbags are attracted to the underscore?

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Pro Football Focus is on DHall's a$$ this week.

ProFootbalFocus

How's this for a number. Asante Samuel and DeAngelo Hall - both elected to the Pro Bowl, had a difference of 824 in rec yards allowed about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 20, 2011 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Hayney wants Philly...so trade his ass to Buffalo:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41182977/ns/sports-player_news/

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:21 PM
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Don't shovel that manure into New York state! Does Santa Barbara have an amateur team that would take him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 20, 2011 10:13 PM |

Just want him to freeze his balls off on a team that we don't play.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 10:32 PM | Report abuse


Allens blueprint fools.

Originally Posted by NFL Network

2008 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel# Player Pos School
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes OLB Florida State
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina

2007 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears G Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli SAF Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama

2006 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 23 Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee CB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan

2005 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning G Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins -- Pearl River CC MS
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville

2004 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen SAF Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry G North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams CB Southern University

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 20, 2011 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Hayney wants Philly...so trade his ass to Buffalo:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41182977/ns/sports-player_news/

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 9:21 PM
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Don't shovel that manure into New York state! Does Santa Barbara have an amateur team that would take him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 20, 2011 10:13 PM |

Just want him to freeze his balls off on a team that we don't play.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 10:32 PM
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Send him to Chicago, then. Da Bears use a 4-3 defense which would make Albert happy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 20, 2011 11:04 PM | Report abuse

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Here is a emo song for all my goth RI fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZSekXaN3I&feature=related
Good nite

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 20, 2011 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Send him to Chicago, then. Da Bears use a 4-3 defense which would make Albert happy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 20, 2011 11:04 PM |

No thanks in the NFC.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 20, 2011 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Good luck JC:


Raiders tab Al Saunders as offensive coordinator

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 20, 2011, 9:17 PM EST

Raiders Al Davis continues to make the coaching hires that everyone expects.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Davis hired Ravens assistant Al Saunders as offensive coordinator in Oakland.

Saunders spent the last two years in Baltimore, and is well known for his run in Kansas City from 2001-2005 as offensive coordinator. He also was the head coach of the Chargers from 1986-1988, so he’s almost completed a tour of the AFC West.

Saunders’ hire was largely expected around the league after Davis tabbed Hue Jackson, who worked with Saunders in Baltimore. Davis has also previously interviewed Saunders for spots on previous staffs.

Unlike Chuck Pagano, Saunders is happy to get sentenced to time in Oakland.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 20, 2011 11:50 PM | Report abuse

For all you guys supporting Lichtensteiger the other day when I was advocating an upgrade. How would you feel about Haynesworth wearing that ugly Philly green lining up in the gap between Rabach and Lich?

Enough said.

Let's upgrade and stop blowing sunshine up our azzes about the potential for a guy too small to play Guard in the NFC East.

Posted by: edvar | January 21, 2011 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Moe

I like ya buddy I do but ur point bout d line is moot.....

You say d wins championships n normally I would agree but....

Defenses job is stop prevent points, offenses job is to score points....

Last time I checked a team wins when they have more points than the other team, did that change??

My point is proven by our horribly weak d line play this year, totaling 6 wins..

Last year, when our line to many standards was stronger, rak with 11 n carter with 9, n hayney actually playing, we totaled 4 wins??

I may just be one of those confused fans that wants pouncey but could you help explain that to me??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Lo Alexander interview conducted in the Bay Area.

Not surprising.

Can see how much he didn't like the Albert fiasco. Says he wants to be in different/better shape for 2011. Likes Donovan.

Regarding the Redskins: "Its always like a drama, like a soap opera"

Also, some funny stuff regarding Aaron Rodgers, who he played with, but couldn't hit, while they were both at Cal.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=ADz9Bbc7PkN3Yx_E8Kpj8G_XEI5QUlkh

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2011 3:42 AM | Report abuse

I would excuse the Skins if they outright released McNabb, but no way in HELL would I release Haynesworth without some sort of return...

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 9:52 PM


Um, I think you have that backwards.

We gave up valuable draft picks for McNabb...THAT is the guy we need to get something for. AH was a FA bust and a galactic waste of money, but we didn't lose anything in acquiring him. Plus, this regime wasn't responsible for bringing him in--they were for getting McNabb. If it's an either/or proposition, I'd rather see us get some return on the McNabb investment than the AH one...but that's just me dealing in logic...

I want AH gone, but if he goes to Philly they'll have to pay thru the nose for him...I think getting back our 2nd and 4th rounders would be appropriate...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 5:34 AM | Report abuse

If you guys haven't seen this Favre parody, bless yourself with this elite level piece of comedy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POyFvDgV2cU&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I want AH gone, but if he goes to Philly they'll have to pay thru the nose for him...I think getting back our 2nd and 4th rounders would be appropriate...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 5:34 AM

Appropriate? Maybe. I know it sounds great to me as a fan. I think it would certainly be considered prohibitive from the Philly perspective. If we demand that from Philly, it's basically saying we aren't going to let AH be an Eagle if we have anything to say about it.

Do you set the price so high for Philly because you don't want to see AH in green, or payback for the McNabb fleecing?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth to Philly for Philly's first round pick. That would be fair. Skins unload a big contract and pick up someone who can block Haynesworth.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Do you set the price so high for Philly because you don't want to see AH in green, or payback for the McNabb fleecing?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 7:04 AM


Both.

AH was offered up in the McNabb deal and Philly said 'no dice'. Now that they have the one guy AH will play for, that changes the whole dynamic. It's one thing if we send him to TN where we'll probably never have to see him again, but sending him to a division rival and playing him twice a year would be crazy if we're not getting a king's ransom in return. If Philly is suddenly willing to make a deal, then we know bidding should START at a 2nd and a 4th.

And if they meet us at that price, then those picks should be immediately used to get big nasty O-lineman to make sure AH's impact isn't felt against the team that dumped him.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Do you set the price so high for Philly because you don't want to see AH in green, or payback for the McNabb fleecing?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 7:04 AM


Both.

And if they meet us at that price, then those picks should be immediately used to get big nasty O-lineman to make sure AH's impact isn't felt against the team that dumped him.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 7:28 AM | Report abuse

It's interesting if you consider these two deals...one that already happened and one that's merely hypothetical. Exact same compensation...but two very different messages.

We'd be setting the price because we don't think they'll bite and we're not crazy about the prospect of facing AH twice a year. They set the price because they knew they'd get it and yawned at the prospect of two McNabb Sundays.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 7:40 AM | Report abuse


It's interesting if you consider these two deals...one that already happened and one that's merely hypothetical. Exact same compensation...but two very different messages.

We'd be setting the price because we don't think they'll bite and we're not crazy about the prospect of facing AH twice a year. They set the price because they knew they'd get it and yawned at the prospect of two McNabb Sundays.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 7:40 AM |
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and the beat goes on peeps

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Do you set the price so high for Philly because you don't want to see AH in green, or payback for the McNabb fleecing?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 7:04 AM


Both.

AH was offered up in the McNabb deal and Philly said 'no dice'. Now that they have the one guy AH will play for, that changes the whole dynamic. It's one thing if we send him to TN where we'll probably never have to see him again, but sending him to a division rival and playing him twice a year would be crazy if we're not getting a king's ransom in return. If Philly is suddenly willing to make a deal, then we know bidding should START at a 2nd and a 4th.

And if they meet us at that price, then those picks should be immediately used to get big nasty O-lineman to make sure AH's impact isn't felt against the team that dumped him.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 7:28 AM
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I'd be down with the trade. I think the team needs offensive linemen in the next draft, regardless of the impact Haynesworth will have in Philadelphia. Personally, I think Haynesworth has lost a bit of the fire that got him the fat contract. He got his big payday and I'm just not sure the motivation is there. Any way you slice it, I'll be glad when he is gone. The dude is just part of the lingering stink from the Cerrato days.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I think Haynesworth has lost a bit of the fire that got him the fat contract. He got his big payday and I'm just not sure the motivation is there.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 8:02 AM


Totally agree...but if he's got anything left, Washburn is the guy capable of getting it out of him. That's why if we deal him to Philly, it's gonna be at his Titans-impact price...not the massive underachieving Redskins version. Anything else would be uncivilized...

Good point, MC...kinda depressing when you think of it that way...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 8:18 AM | Report abuse

If Philly is suddenly willing to make a deal, then we know bidding should START at a 2nd and a 4th.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 7:28 AM

A couple of points.

1. Rumor has it that the Iggles are looking into converting to a 3-4.

2. While it would be nice to fleece the Iggles, I find it hard to see them giving up a 2nd round pick for a guy that the whole leagues knows has to be moved. I think the best they offer is a 3rd with perhaps a conditional pick/ or a developmental player to be named. That 3rd would be higher than what most other teams would offer for AH.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

IMO this is the best video that I haven't watched so far.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 8:24 AM | Report abuse

PlayAction and I aren't watching this!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 8:25 AM | Report abuse

brandon_in_cali

I may just be one of those confused fans that wants pouncey but could you help explain that to me??

Easy: you want an improved offensive line thinking it'll win games.

The pats/falcons have solid o-lines and won a ton o' games this season, so your point is well made.

Thing is, neither team is playing this weekend as the teams with superior defenses shut them down, their excellent blocking notwithstanding.

Too, if you argue that drafting a quarterback at 10 is risky, then you're saying you want to win a lot of games with a late rounder or mediocre vet playing behind a good o-line.

But, again, that formula only works if your defense keeps the other team out of the end zone as your non-elite quarterback won't make the throws that win games, no matter how great the blocking up from is.

And so, given our porous defense, you have to use your picks to add stud defenders who stop the run and pressure the opposing teams quarterback in order to make every game a low scoring, tight affair won by turnovers, stingy D, and teams.

That's why smart Redskin fans want defenders (NT, D-END, OLB, FS) this go round: defense is what gets championships.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Why is Lavar Arington employed with the Post? Who does he have pictures on?

And that radio show is unbearable. You can be sure of two of three things are going to happen:
1. He'll play the race card
2. He'll go into 'roid rage
3. He'll use the word "situation" at least 55 times during the show.

Posted by: password11 | January 21, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

TWISI, I never said that AH would be worth what we're asking for...just that if we're doing business with the Eagles again, we need to jack the price up on them and if someone else wants him for a 3rd or whatever I'd take that if the Eagles don't meet our demands. It's one thing if they're the only takers, but I doubt that'll be the case.

As for the Eagle switching to a 3-4...I doubt that too since they just hired Washburn to coach the D-line. I know they were sniffing around some D-coordinator prospects like Dean Pees that historically runs a 3-4, but I don't think they're looking to make that switch...especially when they're so heavy on Tampa 2-style players. I guess we're about to find out though...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

I would excuse the Skins if they outright released McNabb, but no way in HELL would I release Haynesworth without some sort of return...

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 9:52 PM


Um, I think you have that backwards.

We gave up valuable draft picks for McNabb...THAT is the guy we need to get something for. AH was a FA bust and a galactic waste of money, but we didn't lose anything in acquiring him. Plus, this regime wasn't responsible for bringing him in--they were for getting McNabb. If it's an either/or proposition, I'd rather see us get some return on the McNabb investment than the AH one...but that's just me dealing in logic...

I want AH gone, but if he goes to Philly they'll have to pay thru the nose for him...I think getting back our 2nd and 4th rounders would be appropriate...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Agree with both of you. McNabb is the one we need to get something for, but Albert has been such a pain in the ass that we'd better get SOMETHING for him, I'd even take a 4th round pick for him. Throw in a ham sandwich and we'll gift wrap him for ya! Any takers?

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

If Philly is suddenly willing to make a deal, then we know bidding should START at a 2nd and a 4th.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 7:28 AM

A couple of points.

1. Rumor has it that the Iggles are looking into converting to a 3-4.

2. While it would be nice to fleece the Iggles, I find it hard to see them giving up a 2nd round pick for a guy that the whole leagues knows has to be moved. I think the best they offer is a 3rd with perhaps a conditional pick/ or a developmental player to be named. That 3rd would be higher than what most other teams would offer for AH.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2011 8:23 AM
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TWISI - to point number one it would be a little strange for the Eagles to hire a coach who is known for developing 4-3 defensive lineman and have him develop a 3-4. I don't see that happening.

To point number two, I agree. Haynesworth's value is low right now. This is where Allen and Shanahan have to put on their best show. It started with Allen saying Haynesworth could be back next season. Now, they have to sell that the rift between Shanny and Al is not that great, Al is working real hard for next season and last season was last season. Haynesworth has to do his part too, if he is smart. Hopefully, Allen told Haynesworth's agent that Haynesworth needs to play the game behind the game if he wants to be traded. Hopefully, Haynesworth's agent convinced Haynesworth to behave, but I am doubtful on this point if he is already lobbying to go to Philly.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 8:39 AM | Report abuse

I'd even take a 4th round pick for him. Throw in a ham sandwich and we'll gift wrap him for ya! Any takers?

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 8:33 AM

If I had a 4th rounder I would pull the trigger. I like fast boats...and I love ham sandwiches.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 8:41 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26 I follow what you're saying now.

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defense is what gets championships.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 8:29 AM

IF you say over the past decade the the Colts, Pats, Ravens, and Steelers have been the most consistent contenders for making a deep playoff run, then your point is well taken. As we know, the Colt and Pats have been blessed with Hall of Fame qbs leading their charge. However, the one constant with the Ravens and Steelers is their defense. Get an elite qb, or build an elite defense. It's the NFL today.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2011 8:44 AM | Report abuse

TWISI

Rumor has it that the Iggles are looking into converting to a 3-4.


The Eagles whould change their defense to a 3-4.

Their defense is not the monstah it was playing 4-3 style under the late Jimmie Johnson.

The playoff game against the packers kinda exposed that they, the iggles, don't get a lot of pressure upfield.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Getting a 2nd and 4th back would be great but that would never happen.

Personally, I'd never send Haynesworth to the Eagles. Not because we'd have to play him twice a year, but because it's what he wants.

If I were the GM in this situation, my conversation with Albert would go something like this:

Me: "So, playing for your old coach would make you happy?"

Albert: "Yes, more than anything."

Me: "Well that's great, Albert. You want to be there and they're willing to make a deal to get you. This would work out great, but here's the thing: F*ck you."

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 21, 2011 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I didn't watch this!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2011 8:51 AM | Report abuse

twisi

Get an elite qb, or build an elite defense. It's the NFL today.


Preach it, brother, preach it.

And this draft go 'round, defense is the hand that's being dealt talent-wise.

It would be much easier to craft an elite defense by adding a stud NT, OLB, FS, and right rush end to great players like LL and BO and Fletch.

That's how the best defense in the playoffs--the packers--is structured.

What I think is that a lot of folks are stuck in Mark Rypien-land and feel that a great offensive line wall will allow a mediocre quarterback to take 7-step drops 20 times a game: that just does not happen anymore.

Too, each playoff team--except the jets--features a defense that's way better than the offense they support.

And except the jets, not a one has some 'dominating' offensive line.

What they have is dominating defenders and elite quarterbacks.

And so, if you not gonna take a q-back at 10 because it's 'risky', you must concede to build the defense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 8:55 AM | Report abuse

e_trod That sounds awesmoe.

Bench him for the entire contract... lol.

Somehow I don't think the NFLPA would let that slide. But if they decertify, do they hold any power?

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2011 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Then there's Tyrod Taylor-The Stealth Quarterback..Broke most of Vick's records, could be the Stealthy solution at QB without costing an arm and a leg..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Pro Football Focus is on DHall's a$$ this week.

ProFootbalFocus

How's this for a number. Asante Samuel and DeAngelo Hall - both elected to the Pro Bowl, had a difference of 824 in rec yards allowed about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 20, 2011 10:32 PM

How dare you lh1. DHall is elite. Just because he can't cover his shadow and gave up a s!th ton of yards and too many TDs to count doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the pro bowl nod.

What are you a hater? Oh, you're objective and you're trying to enlighten the nudniks on this board...ok carry on..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Me: "Well that's great, Albert. You want to be there and they're willing to make a deal to get you. This would work out great, but here's the thing: F*ck you."

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 21, 2011 8:46 AM


And that would be why you're not a GM...this is business, not personal. You get what you can get for the guy because it'll make your team better...letting him rot on the bench doesn't help your team. In fact, it outright hurts it because of the drama involved.

I'd love to see the Skins stick it to him, but I don't think we can do that AND get anything of value for him. It's probably an either/or proposition, and if I have to choose, I choose getting something back for him.

Even if it means facing him again.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 9:08 AM | Report abuse

yeah, dhall sucks...yup, horse dead, meat stripped off the bones, bones turned to dust, dust blown away in the wind...CRogers=Deion Sanders...can we please move the frig on...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 9:12 AM | Report abuse

And that would be why you're not a GM...


Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 9:08 AM | Report abuse


No arguements there.

I don't care about facing him, he'll probably be hurt anyways.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 21, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Ugh...really Diesel? More DHall hate? Fess up...did he bang your wife/mother/sister? Shoot your dog? That's the only scenario that warrants this level of blind hatred...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse

bean- feel free to move on to whatever you feel like moving on to. Just be sure to use the word "cat" in whatever you feel like moving on to, that's always fresh/cool/dope/tight when bald, fat, white dudes use that word in their lingo.

Maybe you can talk about how you want us to sigh VJax and Mankins.

Maybe bring up DT.

I don't know you're so dynamic, I'll be anxiously awaiting your next post.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Then there's Tyrod Taylor-The Stealth Quarterback..Broke most of Vick's records, could be the Stealthy solution at QB without costing an arm and a leg..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

There's an idea! A one armed, one legged quarterback that can hop around in the pocket. Hopefully he has good footwork though.....

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 9:22 AM | Report abuse

DeAngelo Hall is a game changer.

Change isn't always good. It isn't always bad, either.

He makes big plays and he give up big plays.

Carlos is better doesn't give up big plays (as much) but he doesn't make them either.

They both have their strengths and weaknesses. DeAngelo's strengths are just better suited for TV, that's why he's in the pro bowl.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 21, 2011 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Then there's Tyrod Taylor-The Stealth Quarterback..Broke most of Vick's records, could be the Stealthy solution at QB without costing an arm and a leg..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 8:58 AM
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The secret might be out this weekend if he does okay in the East-West Shrine game. Seriously, though, he's a little short to play QB and his throwing mechanics are a mess. I think he could make an immediate name for himself as a running back and kick returner, ala Brian Mitchell. If he wants to latch on to some team as a developmental project at QB, he's probably a couple of years from getting a shot at a starter's job.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I don't care about facing him, he'll probably be hurt anyways.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 21, 2011 9:16 AM

Yep...and either way...Lichtensteiger will handle him just fine.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Skins want to keep Albert for next season. I agree with Moe we should trade back in the draft and go after M. Poncey (Center). Then use our next pick on a OLB/defensive lineman.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 21, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I don't care about facing him, he'll probably be hurt anyways.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 21, 2011 9:16 AM

Yep...and either way...Lichtensteiger will handle him just fine.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 9:30 AM
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By "handle" you must mean, sticking to the bottom of Haynesworth's clete and effectively slowing him down enough so Grossman can run away from him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Ugh...really Diesel? More DHall hate? Fess up...did he bang your wife/mother/sister? Shoot your dog? That's the only scenario that warrants this level of blind hatred...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 9:18 AM

Blind hatred? How is it blind, seems to me most folks can't watch a Redskins game and be objective.

Banging scenarios? Really? That's weak even for you.

Most folks up here couldn't bust a grape with their foosball IQ. When some Objective about a player is posted when all I see is subjective...soak it up.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Diesel is such a sh*t-stirrin' mole, can't figure yet if he's a Giant or an Eagle or a Cowgirl moley, testing his radioctive experiments on an unsuspecting public..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 9:35 AM | Report abuse

"Just be sure to use the word "cat" in whatever you feel like moving on to, that's always fresh/cool/dope/tight when bald, fat, white dudes use that word in their lingo"

nice...love it....thats a keeper...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 9:35 AM | Report abuse

To join my cult Alan, you need to show at least 2 weeks of optimism. Then I will consult the Tribunal and we will take a vote.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 13, 2011 7:21 PM

(Day 8)

I'm thrilled that DHall is represent the Skins in the Pro Bowl!

I have a hard time imagining any other team's fans actually arguing against one of their own players being selected for the Pro Bowl. Yikes!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 9:35 AM | Report abuse

By "handle" you must mean, sticking to the bottom of Haynesworth's clete and effectively slowing him down enough so Grossman can run away from him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 9:33 AM

Haha no...I was thinking he could work on an undetectable tripping move over the spring.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Then there's Tyrod Taylor-The Stealth Quarterback..Broke most of Vick's records, could be the Stealthy solution at QB without costing an arm and a leg..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 8:58 AM
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The secret might be out this weekend if he does okay in the East-West Shrine game. Seriously, though, he's a little short to play QB and his throwing mechanics are a mess. I think he could make an immediate name for himself as a running back and kick returner, ala Brian Mitchell. If he wants to latch on to some team as a developmental project at QB, he's probably a couple of years from getting a shot at a starter's job.

Posted by: RedSkinHead


Sounds a helluva like what they said about Theismann, in fact, he DID start out returning punts..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I would excuse the Skins if they outright released McNabb, but no way in HELL would I release Haynesworth without some sort of return...

Posted by: silkydee1 | January 20, 2011 9:52 PM

No way would I release DM there are teams out there looking for a veteran quarterback and I think the asking price is a 2nd round pick.


Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 21, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Shoot your dog? That's the only scenario that warrants this level of blind hatred...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse

One time somebody stepped on one of my sock puppets, which happened to be a dog. I saw red and stabbed that person with a fork. Do you think I have an anger problem? I kept apologizing to the nun for months after that, I still don't think she likes me. That b*tch!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Sounds a helluva like what they said about Theismann, in fact, he DID start out returning punts..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 9:39 AM

Yeah...and he'll NEVER let anyone forget about it!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Diesel is such a sh*t-stirrin' mole, can't figure yet if he's a Giant or an Eagle or a Cowgirl moley, testing his radioctive experiments on an unsuspecting public..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 9:35 AM

That's funny....Fact-stirrin' die hard fan. You should know this if not for the whip-its, lead paint huffing, and or whatever it was that robbed you of your memory.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Here's a conundrum for you Bean: Suppose you had the opportunity to tell Carlos Rogers just how lousy a CB you really thought he was. Would you remove Fred Davis penis from your mouth to do it?

Posted by: mack1 | January 21, 2011 9:46 AM | Report abuse

By "handle" you must mean, sticking to the bottom of Haynesworth's clete and effectively slowing him down enough so Grossman can run away from him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Realistically when Haynesworth 'accidentally' falls down on every play and doesn't get up right away Lick-my-stinger could just 'accidentally' fall right on him and keep him down. Can anyone say Pro Bowl?

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 9:51 AM | Report abuse

oh wow mack...burn...homophobic jokes...ouch...you got me there...another guy showing his true self...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth to Philly?

Just because Washburn is in Philly doesn't mean that they want Haynesworth. This is LaC trying to connect the dots.

We offered Haynesworth in the McNabb deal and they said no. I believe the market consists of Tenn and Det.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Connect the dots is fun.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Diesel is gas, so I'd suspect he's from the petroleum state of Texas..Speaking of which, they moved Giffords to a Houston rehab-Jesus, Dems, post the Corleone guards outside the room. Like Donald Sutherland said in "JFK", that place is enemy territory and we would have to secure it, and NOT with FBI Mueller types (why the hell was he Johnny -on-the-spot of that investigation, anyway?? The 9-11 coverup former director was all over the scene, being described by the mainstream media as "The FBI Director", NOT "The Former FBI Director"..Freudian slip by the Shadow Government?? Maybe he has "special permanent" status...)..


Who's paranoid??...

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Blind hatred?

This reminds me of the best character from Chappelle Show--the blind black klansman.

Whatever happened to that guy?

I miss him.

The Klansman, I mean, not Chappelle.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

oh wow mack...burn...homophobic jokes...ouch...you got me there...another guy showing his true self...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 9:52 AM

Thanks Bean. I thought I'd try something a little different than just calling you stupid again. You seem to be immune to that anyway.

Posted by: mack1 | January 21, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

another guy showing his true self...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 9:52 AM

You got something to post besides responding to others in a passive aggressive way?

Have at it..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

For a laugh, check out this article Kim Clijsters and the 25 Biggest Bellies in Sports

Fat Al made the list... but I must warn you in advance, the picture for #19, Andre Smith running with his shirt off, ain't pretty! #16 is just hilarious.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Then there's Tyrod Taylor-The Stealth Quarterback..Broke most of Vick's records, could be the Stealthy solution at QB without costing an arm and a leg..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 8:58 AM
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The secret might be out this weekend if he does okay in the East-West Shrine game. Seriously, though, he's a little short to play QB and his throwing mechanics are a mess. I think he could make an immediate name for himself as a running back and kick returner, ala Brian Mitchell. If he wants to latch on to some team as a developmental project at QB, he's probably a couple of years from getting a shot at a starter's job.

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Sounds a helluva like what they said about Theismann, in fact, he DID start out returning punts..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 9:39 AM
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Not saying he couldn't be a great quarterback - just saying he's not a great quarterback now and won't be for awhile. If the kid wants to shoot for the moon, then go for it, but there's a lot of refining that will need to take place. Meanwhile, if he wants to play right away, maybe he would be better served to switch positions. Keep in mind, this is not a scrambling quarterback with the size of Teebow. He reminds me of Pat White for some reason and not Michael Vick.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Top 10 Rated Sports Shows on OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network).


1. WNBA Husbands Fag Football Championship Game

2. Carpetmunching Made Easy

3. Cooking Phallic-shaped Bread with Dill Dough

4. Dr. Phil Solves His Own Problem-Male Pattern Baldness

5. Soccer With Stedman's Balls

6. Golfing with Gayle and Rosie O'Donnel

7. Kiddie Time with My Two Dads

8. Searching His Email-Internet History for Information and Fun

9. Fashionable Arrogant Wimmin of the 1990s with Madonna/Cher

10. Weave to Achieve: Hair Tips from Mr. Clean

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

By "handle" you must mean, sticking to the bottom of Haynesworth's clete and effectively slowing him down enough so Grossman can run away from him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Realistically when Haynesworth 'accidentally' falls down on every play and doesn't get up right away Lick-my-stinger could just 'accidentally' fall right on him and keep him down. Can anyone say Pro Bowl?

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 9:51 AM
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The only problem with this scenario is that it is physically impossible for Lickenstagger to fall forwards. He always falls back - kind of like a French tart - and he gets the grass stains on his back. And Haynesworth only gets winded when he is rushing against offensive linemen that put up some resistance, which won't happen with Lickenheinie, the master of the "wet tissue" pass block.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Blind hatred? How is it blind, seems to me most folks can't watch a Redskins game and be objective.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:34 AM


I'm about as objective as they come when it comes to the Skins, so that BS don't work on me, hoss.

And I didn't stutter...BLIND HATRED. That's why you brought DHall up when he's not the topic. Why you say a guy who goes for 6 picks and 2 TDs doesn't deserve a Pro Bowl (which last time I checked, is a popularity contest based SOLELY on stats). It's why you rip the guy at every turn like he's wearing a star on his helmet and feel the need to challenge anyone who has anything remotely good to say about the guy.

If I were you, I'd spend less time going after RI regulars who support their team and the players who actually WANT to be a part of it, and spend some time examining why you REALLY hate him. Not caring for a guy is one thing...you obviously HATE DHall and it ain't healthy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Tyrod Taylo=Pat White

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Raise your hand if you think drafting Heisman winner Mark Ingraham--rb, Bama, would be a great idea?

I thought not.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Raise your hand if you think drafting Heisman winner Mark Ingraham--rb, Bama, would be a great idea?

I thought not.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:25 AM

Nothing wrong with drafting Ingraham. I wouldn't take him at #10 because there are just too many other pressing needs, but if he slips further back, why not?

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey Play, how about a Haiku challenge or something to celebrate a whole week without beep on here?

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

For a laugh, check out this article Kim Clijsters and the 25 Biggest Bellies in Sports


Fat Al made the list... but I must warn you in advance, the picture for #19, Andre Smith running with his shirt off, ain't pretty! #16 is just hilarious.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 10:02 AM

That was pretty funny...although, I gotta say that Shaun Rogers was not only ranked too low, but that pic they posted of him just HAD to be doctored up...NOBODY is that fat and can actually get out of bed in the morning, let alone play in the NFL...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Alan4

but if he slips further back, why not?

Ingraham would really be a solid addtion as 'Bama runs the kind of running scheme you see in the NFL--power and zone-stretch.

He has hands, great balance, power, and can catch.

He's the kind of back who, like Torain, will get yards even when the blocking is not there.

If we had a 3rd rounder, I would be happy to take him there has he'd be nice to have in combo with Torain.

Torain-Ingraham would be a nice two-headed tandem.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Torain-Ingraham would be a nice two-headed tandem.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:42 AM

Yeah...but then we'd have to get special shoulder pads and helmets made.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Pat white-

Passing Stats
YEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT
2005 WVU 65 114 57.0 828 7.3 8 50 5 132.41
2006 WVU 118 179 65.9 1655 9.2 13 67 7 159.73
2007 WVU 144 216 66.7 1724 8.0 14 79 4 151.39
2008 WVU 180 274 65.7 1844 6.7 21 52 7 142.41
Rushing Stats
YEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2005 WVU 131 952 7.3 76 7 0 0 0
2006 WVU 165 1219 7.4 69 18 0 0 0
2007 WVU 197 1335 6.8 64 14 0 0 0
2008 WVU 191 974 5.1 66 8 0 0 0

Trod Taylor-

Passing Stats
YEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT
2007 VT 72 134 53.7 927 6.9 5 59 3 119.68
2008 VT 99 173 57.2 1036 6.0 2 40 7 103.25
2009 VT 136 243 56.0 2311 9.5 13 81 5 149.39
2010 VT 188 315 59.7 2743 8.7 24 69 5 154.80
Rushing Stats
YEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2007 VT 102 420 4.1 52 6 0 0 0
2008 VT 147 738 5.0 73 7 0 0 0
2009 VT 106 370 3.5 46 5 0 0 0
2010 VT 146 659 4.5 72 5 0 0 0

Posted by: Stu27 | January 21, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Ingram doesn't get past the Giants or the Pats..Shanahan's gonna pull one of his patented 3rd round "diamond in the rough" RB picks , anyway..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 10:14 AM

Objective: Dhall gave up the 2nd most YDs in the NFL for a CB. 800+ more than fellow pro bowler Samuel. How many TDs? Lost count but when I find out I'll be sure to post his total.

Going after RI regulars that support the team? Not sure who contributes more to this here blog or supports this team more. That dog won't fish...There is no one more positive and defensive of this TEAM.

Bean supports a select group of players that are either back-ups or that he finds attractive. He's a passive aggressive putz that not only picked against the team all season but rips the FO every chance he puts his sausage fingers on his keyboard.

And you felt the need to respond to actual quantitative stats about a player and used the tired bang wife/mother/sister act.

What's the topic? I'm all about dialogue and prefer the discussion to have some sort of continuum.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Tyrod Taylo=Pat White

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Im guessing by = you meant Tyrod Taylor


Anyways we have seen this enough to know that he Taylor wont work our as a pro QB.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 21, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Hey Play, how about a Haiku challenge or something to celebrate a whole week without beep on here?

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 10:33 AM

Wow it's been a week already...hope he's is alright and didn't burn his bloggin fingers in the fry oil.

What else can we do besides haiku...I suck at haiku...maybe some Duke jokes?

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Blind hatred? How is it blind, seems to me most folks can't watch a Redskins game and be objective.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:34 AM


I'm about as objective as they come when it comes to the Skins, so that BS don't work on me, hoss.

And I didn't stutter...BLIND HATRED. That's why you brought DHall up when he's not the topic. Why you say a guy who goes for 6 picks and 2 TDs doesn't deserve a Pro Bowl (which last time I checked, is a popularity contest based SOLELY on stats). It's why you rip the guy at every turn like he's wearing a star on his helmet and feel the need to challenge anyone who has anything remotely good to say about the guy.

If I were you, I'd spend less time going after RI regulars who support their team and the players who actually WANT to be a part of it, and spend some time examining why you REALLY hate him. Not caring for a guy is one thing...you obviously HATE DHall and it ain't healthy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 10:14 AM


Ummm does that mean Rex Ryan, who called DHall out and his lack of skills, hates him too? I beleive Deisel feels like most of us do (and Rex Ryan) that DHall is a more of a liability to this team than an asset. And the ProBowl selection was based on popularity and national exposure for a one 4 pick game. Throw out that Chicago game and you got an average 15 game stat for his position, except for all the missed coverages and tackles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrTaxovxM_0

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Ingram doesn't get past the Giants or the Pats..Shanahan's gonna pull one of his patented 3rd round "diamond in the rough" RB picks , anyway..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Wow, if he can pull that off he's not only a good coach and player evaluator, he's a friggin magician, being as we don't even have a 3rd rounder.

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Gotta say The champ fave is Polamalu's Steelers..If only we had Dick Lebeau instead of Haslett..Ok, Ok, we'll give him one more year until the particle beam satellite fries him on the spot..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"Bean supports a select group of players that are either back-ups or that he finds attractive. He's a passive aggressive putz that not only picked against the team all season but rips the FO every chance he puts his sausage fingers on his keyboard"

Nailed it, as usual, very accurate...yes, I picked against the team all year long....bingo...yikes dude, wft...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

"Wow, if he can pull that off he's not only a good coach and player evaluator, he's a friggin magician, being as we don't even have a 3rd rounder.

Posted by: monk811"

Okay, Mr. Friggin Perfect, a 2nd or 4th, like he got Portis and Co....

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Nailed it, as usual, very accurate...yes, I picked against the team all year long....bingo...yikes dude, wft...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 11:01 AM

For the record...I picked the skins every week...and was correct six times.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Gotta say The champ fave is Polamalu's Steelers..If only we had Dick Lebeau instead of Haslett..Ok, Ok, we'll give him one more year until the particle beam satellite fries him on the spot..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 11:00 AM

If only we had Harrison, Hampton, Woodley, Polamalu, etc. as well...

Posted by: skinswest | January 21, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Tyrod Taylo=Pat White

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Pat White:
Career passing pct: 60
Career passing TD: 56

Career Rushing: 4480*
Career Rushing TD: 47

4-0 Bowl record*
2 BCS bowl wins

Tyrod Taylor:
Career passing pct:57
Career passing TD: 44

Career Rushing: 2147
Career Rushing TD: 23

2-1 Bowl record
1 BCS bowl win

* NCAA record

Posted by: Stu27 | January 21, 2011 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Friggin Perfect

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 11:04 AM

Great name for one of our new sock puppets...thanks frak!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

not kidding, VC beeps.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 21, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Nailed it, as usual, very accurate...yes, I picked against the team all year long....bingo...yikes dude, wft...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 21, 2011 11:01 AM

Bean, you digging out? Up here on the top of the North Shore its still coming down.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

How do you confuse a Duke Lacrosse player?
Get a woman to tell him NO!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Okay, Mr. Friggin Perfect, a 2nd or 4th, like he got Portis and Co....


Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I like it, thanks frak. Damn that PlayAction for beating me to it. I guess that's what I can expect from sharing the same brain!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Emo

I get ur point that we won't to stop the slaughtering our defense has recevied

You keep missing my point.

With a great d what do you hope to keep your opponent under???

Cuz they better be baltimore ravens sick if you wanna stick with what we got on offense

I would like to have a great line, not because I think that wins games but because what it opens up everywhere else.

I wonder if our 3 4 defense would be alittle more effective if our offense could sustain a drive n keep the d off the field.

Imagine that.... our offense stays on the field longer, increasing our chances of scoring, n that also keeps the d off the field fresh, instead of getitng burnt out by being on the field all game

Ya we need to stop people from scoring but what if we can't score ourselves????

Holding someone to 10 points is awesome, but you still don't win if you only score 7.

Holding them to 6 doesn't get you the W if we score 3.

You see what I'm sayin?? Yes a great d would be aweomse, but a great d n pathetic offense don't instantly get u ur championship.

Ya the pats/ravs/ falcs all lost, but they lost to complete teams, not just outstanding defenses.

Jets n packers both have great defenses and great offenses

Jets are top 5 in offense and in defense, there defense gets many stops but there wins still come down to sanchez marching them downfield.

Again you have a great point about us needing help at all the positions you mentioned plus a host of needs on offense.

Either way neither of us are gonna get the exact guys we want in our dream scenario I just think its semi-asinine to think that completely rebuilding our d will fix our problems.

Would you rather have a defense that gets you the ball back n then you go 3 n out because of our crappy offense n then give the ball back to the other team??

To me that defeats the purpose of a good d, what's the point if we can't move the ball?? Field position??

With a good D n horrible O, we can get the ball back just to punt it back to em?? Me ill take offense. High scoring games. Let's try to hang 24 plus points on people n then see how our d improves. If we can score 24 n our crappy d can hold someone to 21, that's a win.

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I would like to have a great line,

Let's remember some things about the 'weak' redskin offensive line:

Williams, Litchenstieger, Montgomery are 3 of the 5 starters on that line.

And this year, each player became a 1st time starter in the NFL.

And most 1st time NFL starters are weak; however, the offseason usually is where such players refine their game and improve.

Derrick Dockery, for example, went throught this.

In other words, folks are arguing that a line that essentially featured 3 1st time starters should be augmented with rookies?

How does that work?

You want to complain that young developing players are weak and should be replaced by other young players who have to develop?: fine with me.

I'm of a mind that the redskin line needs a settled right tackle situation and center: two issues that can be resolved in FA.

Beyond that, you know like I do, Shanny is listening to Kyle and will add a quarterback.

After that, Shanny should listen to Haslett: he's the one who needs to be heard.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Cam should be the pick at 10 if he's available - unless Shanny acquires a QB before the draft.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

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