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Posted at 1:28 PM ET, 02/22/2011

Post Sports Live: The Carmelo Anthony trade, the NFL combine and college's basketball stretch run

By Washington Post editors

Dan Steinberg and Michael Lee joined LaVar Arrington, and host Jonathan Forsythe on this week's webcast discuss the Carmelo Anthony trade, Redskins draft priorities as the NFL Combine begins and George Mason, Georgetown and Maryland as college basketball's stretch run begins.

Post Sports Live streams live on washingtonpost.com every Tuesday at noon; archives can be found at washingtonpost.com/postsportslive.


By Washington Post editors  | February 22, 2011; 1:28 PM ET
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Comments

I speak for PA and myself: I'm not watching this!

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Check out the Oreo Cookie:

Lavar

Steinberg

Lee

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 22, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

Posted by: iubiquity | February 22, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes your right. You saying he sucks and that he is no better then Vinny was far more compelling.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

See, I knew you would see it my way. Was it so hard agreeing with me???

Ugh, you didn't see I was just busting balls and joking about those guys and the 'counting joke'? Do you understand sarcasm at all?

SAVE A ROSTER SPOT FOR ROGERS!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Check out the Oreo Cookie:

Lavar

Steinberg

Lee

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 22, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I like to think of it as a marshmallow poop sandwich!

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I hope Atogwe does himself a favor and doesn't sign with the Redskins.

Ashburn is a career killer.

Posted by: NyallsStJohnSmytheIV | February 22, 2011 1:32 PM

You're speaking from experience -- it seems to have ruined your career.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to watch this to see Lee. But I just can't do it. Did anyone actually watch it? How was Lee?

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Check out the Oreo Cookie:


Lavar (to Steinberg): Dude, I got sheets whiter than you.

Steinberg (to Arrington): And if you keep getting racial, me and all my friends will show up to your house late tonite wearing our white sheets.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 22, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I hope Atogwe does himself a favor and doesn't sign with the Redskins.

Ashburn is a career killer.

Posted by: NyallsStJohnSmytheIV | February 22, 2011 1:32 PM

You're speaking from experience -- it seems to have ruined your career.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Way i see it you dont need to have a career after you come to Ashburn. We build retirement funds for players better then anyone.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frak | February 22, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Nice one, Frak!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 22, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

By my count, that's 4 players, or in terms of you guy's numbers, D.

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Otogwe- not on team
corner to be named later opposite Hall- not on team
OLB opposite orakpo-not on team
Fletch replacement- not on team
NT-not on team
DE-not on team

Im not sure im getting your math. So we need to replace like half our D with players to be named later...But were not far from competing, 2012?

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 1:32 PM

By my count, the only guys who I want to be here and that I think there is a good chance that will be here come 2012/2013 are Hall, Orakpo and Landry (assuming he doesn't find his way to FA)

Guys who are possibly gone by then from our 2010 starters or not good enough to lock down a longterm starting spot: Rogers, Rocky, Moore, 'Lo, Fletcher and all the DL guys.

8 of 11 spots are open for competition over the next couple years.

There will hopefully be some on the current roster that step up and provide a reason they should stick around, but no one that falls into the "I can count on him" category. Best guess for that, Henson, Bryant, Carriker and Barnes -- but none are close to being locks.

We've got a lot of work to do on defense, a lot of turnover is coming. See which young guys step up, then fill the remaining gaps with veteran FA/trade sorts. But getting younger quickly needs to be a big part of this offseason.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 22, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, you didn't see I was just busting balls and joking about those guys and the 'counting joke'? Do you understand sarcasm at all?

SAVE A ROSTER SPOT FOR ROGERS!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse


ohhh. Your sarcasm and your actual thoughts seem to close for me to differentiate between them. Put an asterisk or something when your actually trying to make a point.
* With Shaun Rogers the skins front 7 becomes one of the leagues best.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm definitely not watching this one.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 22, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Put an asterisk or something when your actually trying to make a point.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 2:19 PM

When he tries to make a point he posts under the name PlayAction. When he uses the name Monk811 it's pure schtick.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Way i see it you dont need to have a career after you come to Ashburn. We build retirement funds for players better then anyone.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 2:04 PM

What I don't understand is, whenever we start talking about players who can improve the team, RI bloggers start fretting about Dan's money. Why are people here so consumed with how much money Dan pays? Dan's not worried!

We have the highest paid coach in the NFL, who coached us to a 6-10 season. Dan made Haynesworth, who barely played last year, the highest paid defensive player in NFL history a couple of years ago. This past season, Dan employed 2 of the NFL's top 10 paid players (Fat Al #5, DHall, #10). So, we all know Dan overpays, and frequently puts money in the wrong place.... I really don't care.

Has there EVER been a player we didn't sign because or money restrictions? There's always seems to be some way to structure the contract.

Personally, I worry more about losing draft picks and giving up young performers on the rise to get someone else's declining Big Name Superstar.

I applaud Dan for being willing to spend gobs of money to bring in talented players and coaches. He just needs to stop giving up the present and the future for flops that starred somewhere else, and figure out a better way to properly identify people who are going to star in burgundy and gold.


Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Why are people here so consumed with how much money Dan pays?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 2:29 PM |

To the extent that people care about Dan's money, they wish he would go broke and sell the team.

People's legitimate concern is the salary cap.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

People's legitimate concern is the salary cap.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:34 PM

During the Snyder era, the salary cap hasn't hurt the team at all--unless you can give me an example.

I'd say the problem is all the underachievers on the field, most of whom are making excellent salaries.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

We should trade our March Madness brackets for draft picks.

That's the only way to build a winner.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 22, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

That one was for good ol' David Duerson..Someone's late for a de-braining and the brains fly 'roundandroundandroundandrounda

We put on our best clothes and toddle down
To join the mob for the De-Braining,
Rue Le Chaude', the greatest show in town.
"One,two, the wheels go 'round,
Snip-snap, the brains fly all 'round,
My, Oh my, the Rentiers in a stew!!"
=Jarry

Posted by: frak | February 22, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

During the Snyder era, the salary cap hasn't hurt the team at all--unless you can give me an example.

I'd say the problem is all the underachievers on the field, most of whom are making excellent salaries.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 2:39 PM

Example? The salary cap has limited the number of free agents he has been able to sign. He signed Haynesworth and would like also to have signed Chris Canty and Jason Brown. Without the salary cap all three of them would have been Redskins.

Choose any year of free agency and you can find other examples of guys he would have signed but couldn't.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, you didn't see I was just busting balls and joking about those guys and the 'counting joke'? Do you understand sarcasm at all?

SAVE A ROSTER SPOT FOR ROGERS!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse


ohhh. Your sarcasm and your actual thoughts seem to close for me to differentiate between them. Put an asterisk or something when your actually trying to make a point.
* With Shaun Rogers the skins front 7 becomes one of the leagues best.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Ok, here we go:

Serious: I love the Redskins.
*Sarcasm: Sign Rogers and we go to the SB.

See the difference?

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

We should trade our March Madness brackets for draft picks.

That's the only way to build a winner.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 22, 2011 2:44 PM

Just traded you for a second rounder in next year's fantasy football and a conditional third rounder in next year's draft. I'm building a winner.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I would rather lose with an Owner that is spending money then lose with an owner that refuses to spend money.

How he spends the money is a whole different story but from a basic principle concept I cant complain about his approach.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Just traded you for a second rounder in next year's fantasy football and a conditional third rounder in next year's draft. I'm building a winner.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I will make you pay everytime I play you

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 22, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

During the Snyder era, the salary cap hasn't hurt the team at all--unless you can give me an example.

I'd say the problem is all the underachievers on the field, most of whom are making excellent salaries.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 2:39 PM

Example? The salary cap has limited the number of free agents he has been able to sign. He signed Haynesworth and would like also to have signed Chris Canty and Jason Brown. Without the salary cap all three of them would have been Redskins.

Choose any year of free agency and you can find other examples of guys he would have signed but couldn't.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:47 PM

In essence, the salary cap managed the team more than the team managed the cap.

This led to numerous problems and so-so decisions.

I also think overpaying leads to a culture issue that has been a problem. People come here for the money, winning is secondary. You'd prefer a team with hungry guys ready to overachieve.

I'll use Randle El as an example. I wonder why a guy who'd just come from a Super Bowl winner -- where he'd had a significant impact -- was so anxious to play in DC.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 22, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

If we're loosing anyway, who gives a shti WHAT he does with his money?!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 22, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I would rather lose with an Owner that is spending money then lose with an owner that refuses to spend money.


Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 2:51 PM |

Are those the only choices? Die by firing squad or by lethal injection?

I'd rather win with a smart owner who won't spend money than lose with a stupid owner who shoves money up his Poopy McPoop.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Example? The salary cap has limited the number of free agents he has been able to sign. He signed Haynesworth and would like also to have signed Chris Canty and Jason Brown. Without the salary cap all three of them would have been Redskins.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:47 PM

I pulled this old report from RI:

"While the Redskins are interested in defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, their cap situation is very constricting and Cerrato has told several people around the league this week that the Skins are unlikely to be able to actually complete such a deal. With at least six other teams having significant interest in Canty, according to league sources, it seems unlikely that he would be coming here without investigating whether Haynesworth would be visiting as well."

"Canty is expected to pull in a deal worth upwards of $8 million per season, with $15 million or more guaranteed."
**********************************

So despite a "very constricting" cap situation, the Skins managed to find a way to make Haynesworth the highest paid defensive player in NFL history anyway.

Sure, the Skins can't sign every available free agent to a record contract--there's a practical limitation. So in that sense you are correct.

But bad choices have hurt the team far more than any cap restrictions.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep,

that wasn't one of the choices. If it comes between winning and losing i think everyone will take winning.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

If it comes between winning and losing i think everyone will take winning.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 3:02 PM

That would seem logical, but I've seen guys up here like hessone who are so wedded to their mantras of negativity -- "nothing ever changes I tell you" -- that they would rather lose than be wrong.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Panthers are going to tag Kalil.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 22, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Why are people here so consumed with how much money Dan pays?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 2:29 PM |

To the extent that people care about Dan's money, they wish he would go broke and sell the team.

People's legitimate concern is the salary cap.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

--

Dan's player salary pool has remained rather static over the years -- roughly $200 million per season.

For every overpriced and underperforming free agent the team has signed to sell club seats and jerseys -- it has filled out the rest of the roster with a dozen bargain basement warm bodies taken off the scrap heaps of injured or retired has-beens, waiver wires and other teams's practice squads.

I may be mistaken, but under Snyder's entire term of ownership, I don't think the team has ever been in danger of exceeding the salary cap -- and even in the uncapped season of last year -- the only thing the team appeared to do well was shed it's payroll obligations for the coming year and beyond.

For all of the hoopla about the owner's alleged free-spending ways, I'm still convinced he's cheap, cheap, cheap!

Posted by: Vic1 | February 22, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"Atogwe would be no Archuleta.Posted by: GoonieGooGoo"

No, he wouldn't. Adam was a converted LB type who needed to play running forward. Atogwe is a pass defender.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 22, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

For all of the hoopla about the owner's alleged free-spending ways, I'm still convinced he's cheap, cheap, cheap!

Posted by: Vic1 | February 22, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Ok i get what your saying now beep-beep.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow, sure am glad I missed the whole rump ranger discussion earlier...in other news, at least now if the cap returns we will be well under it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 22, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

So despite a "very constricting" cap situation, the Skins managed to find a way to make Haynesworth the highest paid defensive player in NFL history anyway.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

You also have to factor in that for years Vinny was blowing smoke up everyone's ass and telling them this was a Playoff Team!

They probably figured, "we are only 1 player away defensively from being on top, let's just sign him, how bad could he be?"

Obviously Vinny is an idiot and we were MANY players away from competing.

Now that adults are here running things, let's hope that:

A. We actually take a step back, start rebuilding, and hopefully can compete the 'correct way' in a couple of years.

2. We build through the draft and not try and get the biggest fish out there in FA.

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Panthers are going to tag Kalil.

Posted by: Diesel44


I'm going out in the woods with a sack of beer and I'm gonna Kalil anything that moves..

Posted by: frak | February 22, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

For all of the hoopla about the owner's alleged free-spending ways, I'm still convinced he's cheap, cheap, cheap!

Posted by: Vic1 | February 22, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Ok i get what your saying now beep-beep.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 3:11 PM


Huh? You do? First time anyone's ever said this to me up here.

I think you must have meant it for Vic1, although I don't think anyone's ever understood him, either.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 22, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44

Panthers are going to tag Kalil.


...and the Redskin Fanbase FA Wish-List continues to shrink.

Woodley--tagged

Ngata--tagged

Jackson--tagged

Rice--transition player tag

Kalil--tagged

OJ Simpson--tagged in prison by a straight right hand across the jaw

Gee: I guess we'd better bone up on the draft, huh?

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 22, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Kalima? You mean This guy?

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 22, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 22, 2011 2:44 PM

We should trade these WaPo videos featuring LaVar and the "Washington Post Sports Editors" for draft picks.

That's the only way to build a winner.

Posted by: dcsween | February 22, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

A special ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES -- the 'no, I'm not on the other side of a glass wall' edition

http://www.pbase.com/faerie_39/image/132617519
http://www.pbase.com/faerie_39/image/132617525

And that's it for this 'as close as 2 feet' special edition of ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 22, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Now that adults are here running things, let's hope that:

A. We actually take a step back, start rebuilding, and hopefully can compete the 'correct way' in a couple of years.

2. We build through the draft and not try and get the biggest fish out there in FA.

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 3:16 PM

Taking a step back ... aspiring to get back to 4-12, maybe even working harder ... get to 3-13.

Rebuilding does not mean forfeiting a season. The team can still "rebuild" (actually, it probably would be "building" for the first time ... since The Owner bought the team) and win games. See Tampa Bay.

Now that adults are running things, we should trade some adults for draft picks.

That's the only way to build a winner.

Posted by: dcsween | February 22, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 22, 2011 3:23 PM

I'm not clicking this.

Posted by: dcsween | February 22, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Obviously Vinny is an idiot and we were MANY players away from competing.

Now that adults are here running things, let's hope that:

A. We actually take a step back, start rebuilding, and hopefully can compete the 'correct way' in a couple of years.

2. We build through the draft and not try and get the biggest fish out there in FA.

Posted by: monk811 | February 22, 2011 3:16 PM

Vinny's picture should be captioned in one of those motivational business posters, wild-eyed and smiling broadly: "Addition by subtraction--sometimes building a winner is just a pink slip away!"

Still, the McNabb signing made me wonder about you point "B"... er, ah, point "2". Who really made that call?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 22, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Rice--transition player tag

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 22, 2011 3:19 PM

Rice doesn't have enough years in the league to be transition tagged. I think he might actually be RFA again though.

Have the Chiefs or the Browns tagged Tamba Hali or D'Qwell Jackson yet?

Posted by: dcsween | February 22, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Hali, last week...

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 22, 2011 3:23 PM

I'm not clicking this.

Posted by: dcsween

I'm doing my best to deal with the hurt feelings

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 22, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Newton throwing at the combine, Flabbert is not.

Good move by Newton, hopefully he'll go to Buffalo at 3 and Flabbert to Tenn at 8.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 22, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44

Good move by Newton, hopefully he'll go to Buffalo at 3 and Flabbert to Tenn at 8.


...and if either of them becomes a star, I'm quite sure you'll feel the same way, right?

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 22, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

from the Mosley chat on espn site

Jameson (Philly): What can the Redskins get for McNabb and Haynesworth?

Mosley: Free subscription to the City Paper.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 22, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Moe- I'll take Ponder in the 2nd if they decide that QB has to be had with the 1st or 2nd. He's the most pro ready of all the QBs. He's had a few injuries but his arm strength will return. He's also an athletic fit for Shanahan's boot-leg orientated offense.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 22, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Moe-
Cam = baggage and onfield project, Flabbert= numbers against Big 12 defenses and look like sh*t in the bowl game

Disel- We've already got Ponder in Rex, U of Fla, Heisman runner-up, 22nd selected overall, led Bears to a Super Bowl runnerup..

Posted by: frak | February 22, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I dont see how Blaine goes in the top 10 if he dosent throw at the combine. I dont care how much he does in his pro day workouts the dude just does not have the credentials to be a top 10.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I dont see how Blaine goes in the top 10 if he dosent throw at the combine. I dont care how much he does in his pro day workouts the dude just does not have the credentials to be a top 10.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 22, 2011 3:57 PM

Lots of the top tier guys don't throw. They rather throw in a controlled environment with receivers they are familiar with. Completely agree on Flabbert and I hope he's off the board when we pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 22, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

OJ beeps---->

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 22, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

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