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Postgame Questionnaire



By Cindy Boren  |  September 20, 2009; 4:22 PM ET
 
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Zorn sucks!!!

Posted by: jm220 | September 20, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I think Danny Smith should be the head coach. Special Teams gets an A+ so far on the year. In addition, he also kept Zorn from giving the Rams an extra 25 secs by stopping that time out.

Posted by: lowtharofthehill | September 20, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I am sure the result isbn't having any effect on the voting for Q No. 2.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 20, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell played a good game. He moved the offense up and down ALL DAY LONG. Zorn has to be less conservative in the redzone. And let Jason sling the ball for some TD's. (Sellers,D.Thomas) both dropped TD passes in the 1st half. Was it a perfect game? No. Did the skins do some things wrong? Yes. Did the skins do some good things? yes. 1-1 now 2-1 after next week.

Posted by: gcoles32 | September 20, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is lucky the schedule is kinda light for the next few games- but if he continues to call unimaginative dogs without scoring touchdowns, his a** is still going to be out the winda..

Posted by: frak | September 20, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Now I think about it going on 4th down was a possibly better choice. Assume that WAS makes the FG and it becomes 12-7. The team has to kick off the ball downfield. The Rams could easily return it far. In that case, if the Rams start at the 30 yard line or farther, they only need a few plays to get within striking distance. By having to start at the 1 yard line they had to throw deep in their own end of the field.

Posted by: jiacinto | September 20, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

at least we'll focus hard on next week's game against detroit.

- Really boneheaded call by Zorn on the 4th and goals. The risk is not worth the reward there. Zorn probably wanted to punch it in to satisfy himself since he couldnt do it all game, but that was not the time to do it

- How are all of Zorn's goal line running plays going left? Think the Rams aren't stacking that side? Painfully evident on the last 4th down attempt

- JC has got to hit a long ball. Bad play in almost taking a safety. A couple of those are entirely on him. Bad play in fumbling the ball of Sellers. A game manager has to do a better job than that. Although, he was impressive on 3rd downs mostly

Posted by: hailbg | September 20, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

The refusal to throw the ball into the end zone on first or second down is telling. As soon as they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, Zorn is gone... maybe sooner.

Posted by: saqster | September 20, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

oh man. this is going to be a long season. we have got to change the offensive scheme cos we're stuck with the players and we can"t score for toffee. man oh man.

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | September 20, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

The reign of Reinhart begins. Thomas out for the season.

Posted by: daggar | September 20, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Campbell played a good game for him, but still nothing spectacular. First play should have been a TD. The throw to DT on the sideline was 5 yards out of bounds and the deep ball towards the end zone was almost in the stands. Lots of pump faking, etc. as well, BUT that said, he's not the reason they didn't score more points. The play calling flat out blew and because they can't get yards in chunks and every drive needs to be 10 plus plays, they only get 4 or 5 chances to score each game. Even a TD in every red zone visit only produces 28 points. 20 games in a row under 30.

Posted by: saqster | September 20, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

daggar: where you getting that info?

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I think it's a foregone conclusion that Zorn will be fired once the season is over. We shouldn't belabor that point. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't been paying attention for the last 10 years.

As much as Zorn's fate is not in question, the identity of his successor is quite unclear. Snyder couldn't get anyone (except Jim Fassel) to come to DC the last time he had a head coaching vacancy, so I don't know what kind of confidence we should have that a legitimate head coach would come work for him this time around. For the Shanahans, Cowhers, and Holmgrens, it's not about money anymore: it's about winning. And working for Snyder, there's a less than 50% chance that you'd get the support you need to put a winner together.

But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Zorn lives to coach another week.

Posted by: PDiddy | September 20, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

zorn blows...

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Comcastic... Kelli started her interview with Dockery with that announcement.
Torn right triceps.

Hey, that might be a name for the band...

Posted by: daggar | September 20, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Here come all the d-bag, doomsday, once a week, cry baby posters. Saqster and mikeysuperdons are perfect examples. It was a well played game. Zorn mixed it up well. The only thing that lacked in that game was Redzone offense. There were some good calls but execution was poor. I'm critical of Zorn but he called a decent game and Campbell played well. Field goals won't cut it though. Gotta get it in the box. Oh yeah, and the sky is falling, all is lost, it's gonna be a long season and all that other stupid sh!t.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Zorn sucks!!!

Posted by: jm220 | September 20, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse
zorn blows...

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

At the same time? Impressive.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 20, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Zorn been blowing...

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I told y'all about this hack ass, bama ass coach, Jim Zorn...

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2009 4:23 PM

Help me with this, please, Red. How can a white bread guy like Zorn be Bama? Bama would be a promotion for him, wouldn't it?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

His career is probably over. Sad for Randy.

Posted by: PDiddy | September 20, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Sad Randy, a true warrior...

scamp pulheeeeze....how about time for the sychophant apologists....

are you really siced by that win?

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

His career is probably over. Sad for Randy.

Posted by: PDiddy | September 20, 2009 4:48 PM

Anybody got P. KENDALL E/M ADD.?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

...JC is one of the slowest readers of defense in this game. He usally never leads a receiver correctly. He never throws until the receiver has been open for 2-3 seconds, so they have very little chance to run with it afterwards--if he happens to hit him in stride, which is rare. And I dont think the is a QB in this league with a slower release. So its no wonder Zorn does not trust him to through into the endzone once they are in field gold range...he has no confidence that JC will not through an interception. And rightly so. And this fear is compounded with a joke of an offensive line. Both of these sub par elements are of course complements Vinnie, of the worst GM and evaluator of talent in the entire NFL. Oh, and Zorn is clearly in over his head, but what did you expect, Vinnie endorsed and hired him. Sad thing is Snyder will fire Zorn before he fires Vinnie.

I wish the fans at FedX would start every home game with chants of VINNIE MUST GO, VINNIE MUST GO...while facing and pointing at Snyder's box. How great would that be?

Posted by: oddjob2 | September 20, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Gee, that first question is silly.

Losing a classy guy like Thomas is brutal.

The drop with the reserves on the line with this team is probably the biggest in the league.

As we've been saying and saying, address the line.

Too late.

Posted by: SteveMG | September 20, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

scamp pulheeeeze....how about time for the sychophant apologists....

are you really siced by that win?

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:50 PM |

What did I apologize for cL? Nothing. I thought he called a good game and Campbell played a good game. You know who needs to be reemed here? The o line at the goal line. All these pricks up here all week talking about our O-line is built for the run and not the pass. Then, when we try to run it in at the goal line they get stuffed repeatedly. I don't blame this one on Zorn or Campbell. Most people throw those 2 under the bus for everything. This is the other players faults.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

So its no wonder Zorn does not trust him to through into the endzone once they are in field gold range...he has no confidence that JC will not through an interception.

Posted by: oddjob2 | September 20, 2009 4:52 PM

Too bad you didn't watch the game. JC hit two receivers in the hands for TDs -- Devin Thomas and Sellars. They both dropped the ball.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Reinhart. Reinhart. Reinhart.

Posted by: daggar | September 20, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

?

Posted by: WHOSTHENEXTHEADCOACH | September 20, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I was kinda upset that I didn't see any fade routes to tall receivers in the end zone though.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Folks, please. Get one thing right about Zorn. Vinny didn't endorse him or pick him. Snyder had no choice. No other coach in the NFL (except Fassel) would work for him. Remember, Snyder had already hired the entire coaching staff when he tried to get first Schwartz and then Spags to take the head coaching job. Both declined. He picked Fassel, and the fans revolted. Zorn was the last man standing. You can't blame Zorn for taking the job, even though, as we can all plainly see, he wasn't qualified.

It is revisionist history to claim that he was Snyder and Cerrato's first and best pick. He was their only choice. Snyder reaped what he had sown. After a decade of NFL ownership, it has become clear that the franchise's problems start at the top, and the only proof you need is Snyder's inability to hire a quality head coach.

Posted by: PDiddy | September 20, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

.JC is one of the slowest readers of defense in this game. He usally never leads a receiver correctly. He never throws until the receiver has been open for 2-3 seconds, so they have very little chance to run with it afterwards--if he happens to hit him in stride, which is rare. And I dont think the is a QB in this league with a slower release. So its no wonder Zorn does not trust him to through into the endzone once they are in field gold range...he has no confidence that JC will not through an interception. And rightly so. A

Posted by: oddjob2 | September 20, 2009 4:52 PM

You're either an idiot or delusional. I'm going with the former.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

CL it's all about perspective. At the end of the day it's a win whether by 2 or 22. This offense has never been a juggernaut so there is no need to have high expectations. Let's accept that and be happy with Ws however they come. Will you be siced with me brother?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 20, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

called a good game? ok.....

f zorn...

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Well on the way to 6-10.

Posted by: ItsOver1 | September 20, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Zorn's decision to go for the first down or touchdown in the fourth quarter with half a yard to go was a bad decision. Let's look at it from the Coach's perspective.

The defense was rested. The ball was on the three-yard line. If they make it, it is a first down or possibly a touchdown. If they don't make it, the Rams are deep in the end zone with no timeouts and a lot of yards to go to get in field goal range. All along, the defense had played relatively well. Why not take the chance?

The only criticism that I have is the play call. You have half a yard to go for the first down, and you go wide instead of straight ahead to get the first down. I don't get the call. Other than that, I thought it was a good decision.

Posted by: recur | September 20, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't know that I have ever felt so bad about a Redskins' victory. The Rams are pathetic and it is so depressing that the Redskins are right there with the other pathetic teams.

You know it didn't take teams long before they figured out the Redskins will only run to the left side. That's why they got stuffed on fourth down. Heck, they knew Zorn was going to run it and they knew where he was going to run it. Teams are going to start playing with four defensive linemen on that side of the center.

Campbell played better but he didn't get much help from his receivers. Sellers should have had that TD catch...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 20, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

This goddamn team f-ing sucks!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: RedDMV

And you all expect fans to cheer at the stadium? What the f do they have to cheer about... to feel positive about?

Posted by: RedDMV

I decided to go back and see if you are a hypocrite. Look what you posted, did you forget? No suprise! You are a hypocrite! I can sooooo tell you LOVE the Redskins, by saying "This goddamn team f-ing sucks!!!!!!!!!" What a great fan you are, sir. =)

You're the one who looks like a fool now. Haha.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 20, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

No other coach in the NFL (except Fassel) would work for him.

Posted by: PDiddy | September 20, 2009 4:56 PM

Marriuci was also doing everything he could to get the job. And there are several others he didn't interview who would probably have jumped at the offer. But, your basic point is right. Bunch of guys used the Redskins to get a better deal where they were.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

yup, why no fades? was the preseason all double-bluff around kelly and marko?

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | September 20, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

called a good game? ok.....

f zorn...

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:59 PM

Whateves dude. You can have your opinion. I think he took some shots, he played some young guys, he tried to spread 'em out a little, and he ran some. We moved the ball at will all day, we just could not score. Shoulda thrown a couple of fades though.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

look i am in the "win is a win" camp...and if they can improve and stockpile wins than its important. but i detest zorn and the team plays like panty wastes.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Campbell: Played great. Two TD passes dropped (DT and Caveman). Made plays when things broke down. One Def holding in the end zone not called.

Refs: Embarrassed themselves. Jarmon late hit, Tana fumble(booth overruled the field), ARE no call in endzone, and the piece de resistance: Griffin or Golston def holding against an opposing interior lineman????? R U F'ING KIDDING ME??????

Defense: Came through with big stops when it mattered. They bent, never broke, and slapped that a$$ at key moments.

Zorn: What a GD JOKE!!! His play calling, which I did not think could POSSIBLY get any worse after last week, set a new all time low. Outside runs from 1st and 2nd and goal at least half a dozen times? CP pass after two of the afore mentioned no gain sweeps??? Another wide run on third and three(boot leg or play action would hjave gone in in a walk IMO)?

Right now, this team's largest weakness is the Head Coach and there is not a second place anywhere in sight. He is lapping the field. Period. He is LUCKY the D bailed him out from the HORRIFIC go for it vice FG late. You have to kick the field goal there to force Rams to get a TD. And then he runs yet another wide run on 4th?? Idiotic, at best.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 20, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The only criticism that I have is the play call. You have half a yard to go for the first down, and you go wide instead of straight ahead to get the first down. I don't get the call. Other than that, I thought it was a good decision.

Posted by: recur | September 20, 2009 5:00 PM

I thought he was going to call the same play action pass the Seahawks scored their first tTD last week. I thought it was perfectly set up with all those runs to the left.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Will you be siced with me brother?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 20, 2009 4:58 PM

Me! Me! I'm there.

Last week a bunch of guys complained that we had lost a "winnable game." Well this week we won a losable game. HTTR!

And next week Orakpo and Carter are going to eat Jon Jansen for lunch. We'll be on a roll! Siced!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

How is it that a former NFL QB (and a decent one, at that) is soooo bad at playcalling? Sure we killed ourselves with:
1)roughing the passer penalty that negated a TO deep in Rams territory
2) Sellers dropped TD pass
3) Moss fumble at end of half
but we pass our way down the field then we do NOTHING in the red zone. How bout a slant or corner route to Kelly?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | September 20, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Why would blame any of this on Zorn? This game is a Snyderatto special. Barely good enough to put it in the win column, but no where near enough to beat a team with a halfway decent team. This is how our team is built. The sooner the extremeskin homers realize this, the better the fanbase will be in getting Snyder to change his ways.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | September 20, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes, now I remember.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 20, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Corny Zorny is the stuff that Cowboy fans are happy to see. Corny Zorny is not a coach. The Redskins won't win until a Danny Boy hire a Black Coach. Plain and simple get a Black Coach.

Posted by: clifton3 | September 20, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The sooner the Extremeskin fools realize that this game is on Snyderatto, the better off the fanbase will be. This game reeked of Vinny. His team is built to barely beat bad teams, and get crushed by teams with good leadership. We'll be lucky to beat the Lions next week, much like we were lucky to beat the Rams this week.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | September 20, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Remember the old joke. Draw two circles in the dirt , one is a hole in the ground and the other is your rearend. Then ask the person where his rearend is and he points to the cirle in the dirt that you said was his rearend.

Well this week someone called the entire team, including coaches, together on the field. He drew two circles in the grass, calling one a hole in the ground, the other the endzone. He then asked all the Redskins where the endzone was and they pointed to the circle that he said was the endzone.

Now we know the problem with the team, they don't know where the endzone is. The first two games bear this out.

Posted by: pjente | September 20, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Anybody have any strategies apart from getting loaded to help lessen the pain of watching this worm infested sinking ship of a team?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | September 20, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

In all seriousness (and coming from an impartial view, for I am not a Redskins fan, but live in the area), the Washington Redskins need to change their football philosophy/ideology. I understand that defense wins championships, or so they say. But offense wins games. And winning games puts a team in the position to get into the playoffs so that they have an opportunity to win championships. The Washington Redskins, with their present coaching staff and philosophy for playing the game of football, will NEVER win more than half of their games per season, and NEVER be in a position to play for a championship of any kind until they either A. Change their offensive philosophy, or B. Hire new personnel who will embed a points-scoring philosophy of running an offense. I really do feel sorry for the fans in this area, for they have been (over the past 10 years) given a product that has relentlessly underperformed and staunchly resisted change. It's apparent that the only way that this team will see consistent winning results is if the primary stakeholders (the fans themselves) take action and demand a better team. A team that will score more than 10 points a game. A team that will give fans a reason to attend and watch games. Don't attend or watch the games. If you do, boo at every opportunity where a field goal was kicked instead of a touchdown scored. Or every time a run play was called when a pass play would have made more sense. In other words, DO NOT SUPPORT "YOUR" TEAM UNTIL THEY RESPECT YOU AS A FAN. Throwing up 9 points against the hapless Rams is....well...disrespectful.

Posted by: mrcassis | September 20, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I believe that the last two games have shown that Jim Zorn is overmatched in the NFL. The Redskins have looked underprepared and Zorn's inability to connect with Jason Campbell and the rest of the offense has shown in the inability to score touchdowns. The blame does not start with Jim Zorn though. The blood is on Vinny Cerrato's hands because he and Daniel Snyder handpicked Zorn to run a West Coast offense that can't score 20 points a game. However, here is the reason I don't believe in the friends and family plan for hiring people. If Zorn is over his head than Cerrato should be fired but Snyder will not do that because he needs his handball playing partner. No, at the end of this season, Zorn and Campbell will take all the blame and Cerrato and Snyder will continue pocketing their ill gotten money even though an inferior product is clearly being put out on the field starting with a shocking loss to the Lions next week and ending in another non-playoff year at the end of this season.

Posted by: Portcity1 | September 20, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Very insightful analysis Portcity. Well said...

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | September 20, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

In regard to the poll, can we have a 3rd option of go for it but with a different play, any different play than a strung out run to the left side? I want to like Zorn but his playcalling in the redzone is just not NFL calliber.

Posted by: JWPinCHI | September 20, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

jim zorn made the right calls, the whole debacle with danny smith on the sideline involving the time out did not look good though

Posted by: BMACattack | September 21, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

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