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Practice

Rock Cartwright and Randy Thomas were the only guys not in pads.

Host of other guys who were not doing a whole lot, so we'll see how much work they take when we get the report after practice.
Marcus Washington was doing individual drills, and Smoot and Rogers were just standing on the sidelines when some other corners were catching balls.
Lorenzo Alexander was working with the O Line again. Rabach was back out there and so was Stephon Heyer.
Cody Boyd is back in the house, signed to the practice squad.

Randy Thomas said his best hope is to be back in 7 weeks, and he should get his hiuge contraption off his arm in a week. He had suregry to repair his torn triceps last month.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 24, 2007; 2:23 PM ET
 
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NE is going down....

Posted by: rlm | October 24, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"Practice....we talking 'bout practice. Not a game. Practice."

- AI

Posted by: the cheat | October 24, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

we need to kill randy moss until he's dead...

Posted by: meast21 | October 24, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

MEAST!!!

Posted by: BoSoxSuck | October 24, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Please god let all our corners, SLB and Center play.

Posted by: Skinz | October 24, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

we need to kill randy moss until he's dead...

Posted by: meast21 | October 24, 2007 02:31 PM

Why is this so sjking funny?

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

If we do get Thomas back in week 15, what's the best guess as to how the "rest" will have affected him. Do we think he'll come out fresh without the wear and tear of an NFL season, and start busting heads? Or will the layoff leave him rusty and lacking chemistry with the rest of the O-Line.

Posted by: Alex In LA | October 24, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Would be very surprised if Rabach or Heyer were full go in this rain. Only takes a little slip and you tweak that groin or hammy.

Posted by: Mike H. | October 24, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Alex,

Assuming Randy meant that 7 weeks to include the process of rebuilding the strenght in his injured arm, I would think he'd be fine. Even for lineman, the legs are the most important thing, and nothing should be keeping him from working out his lower body and running to stay in shape.

Chemistry will take a week or two, but I think his level of talent compared to Fabini (who has proven adequate) outweighs any lack of chemistry, don't you?

Posted by: Mike H. | October 24, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Whether the teams wins or loses is important this weekend, however preventing further serious injuries is nearly as important.

NE can punish.

Rain is forecasted for sure up there Sat. night. Possible for Sunday.

Posted by: GAD | October 24, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Mike, I hope you're right. Certainly not counting any chickens, but it would be nice to have an O-Line of Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, a healthy Thomas, and Wade going into post-season. That's pretty close to where we started the year. Obviously you miss Jansen, but Jansen to Wade was probably the smallest downgrade of the ones we've faced.

Of course now that I've said this, we'll go 5-11, and/or lose our whole O-Line and have Buges and his saggy arms starting at all 5 positions.

Posted by: Alex in LA | October 24, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Alex,
You gotta play him when he's ready, so they can get the chemistry going for the playoffs, right?

Oh, and that pesky Dallas game...

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I'll be at the game on Sunday. I just pray that the Skins make it competitive....

Posted by: Josh | October 24, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Can we have a moratorium this week on reporting who is practicing and who isn't?

Just one time? Just this week?

Posted by: 4th | October 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Stumped - That's what I meant. Play him as soon as he's ready... Week 15 would be great -- give him 3 games leading into the playoffs. Even if things go about as well as they can, we'll still be in dire need of wins late in the season to get in.

Posted by: Alex in LA | October 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

If the skins were 100% healthy. I'd almost say we may surprise them. Mainly cause they're over looking the game vs Indy.

We aint healthly. We aint winning.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I can't imagine Randy would have much upper body strength when he would come back, but maybe the trainers have some special Jedi shti they can work.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"Smoot and Rogers were just standing on the sidelines when some other corners were catching balls."

Uhhh...Even if Rogers is banged up I don't see why he couldn't catch a few balls with the other corners...oh wait I bet he was 'trying' to play catch with the other corners.

Posted by: CC | October 24, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Nickel Package: 5 Current Redskins Topics
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John Keim
WarpathInsiders.com Oct 23, 2007

John Keim reports on and analyzes five huge topics: Running Game, Interceptions, Gibbs, WRs and NE.

1. Running Game.

For all the talk about conservative play-calling, the real issue is that Washington can't run the ball. And it's not just because defenses are crowding the box; it's because the Redskins aren't getting consistent blocking from the right side of the line -- particularly on designed cutback runs -- and Clinton Portis is not running like his old self. Anyone who wonders about the value of training camp only has to look at Portis' start. He's starting to round into form, he says, so we'll see. But this will be a season-long issue. Don't forget, the Redskins struggled last year to run the ball until Ladell Betts became The Guy. We're not suggesting that Betts should be The Guy now, but we will say that what they're doing now is not working.

2. Interceptions.

The Redskins have eight interceptions, two more than all of last year. That's a credit to the four-man rushes that Washington has gone to of late. In the past two games they've picked off four passes and it could have been eight considering the drops they've had. One of the picks Sunday came with a three-man rush when Cornelius Griffin collapsed the pocket and forced Kurt Warner to throw high and wide of his target. Demetric Evans had dropped to the inside of the receiver, leaving Warner one lane -- to the outside. London Fletcher picked off the overthrow. Fletcher's ability to play the run so well, along with the other front seven members, allows the DBs to play cover-2. With any pressure, that forces hurried throws into congested areas.

3. Joe Gibbs.

Back to the offense for a moment. The older he gets, the more conservative he becomes, which rubs off on the play-calling. No, he's not calling plays. But he does have a say in what type of game he wants called. Throwing on every down is not the answer -- the Redskins are 0-5 when Jason Campbell attempts more than 30 passes -- but there's a reason why Washington surrenders so many double-digit leads under him. Just ask yourself this: if you had no knowledge of his past and only knew Gibbs from the past three-plus years, what would you think? That said, he's right that the Redskins need to win by being physical on offense and playing good defense. And the major problem this team has is injuries along the line, as well as some very unproductive receivers.

4. The Wideouts.

No touchdown receptions? How is that possible after six games? Makes you wonder what's wrong with Santana Moss, doesn't it? Moss clearly is not himself and, as in the past, it shows in his productivity. Because Brandon Lloyd is a bust, the Redskins can not open the offense the way they probably would like. That and an offensive line that could not handle pass-blocking that often.

5. New England.

One word for the Redskins this weekend: Yikes! Will anyone predict a Redskins victory Sunday? Probably not, save for the homer or two. But the Redskins will give themselves a terrific chance if they can pressure Tom Brady with only four linemen, a difficult task no doubt. My real problem is that Washington's offense must be more productive than ever. If the Redskins can somehow control the ball, they could make it interesting, maybe more so than any team New England has faced so far. At least until the following week when the Pats play Indy.


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Story URL: http://redskins.scout.com/2/693916.html

Posted by: 4th | October 24, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

***fantasy post***
4th - we have a tough match up this week.

Should I play Santana Moss? hmmmmm.

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Toin Coss:

I stand corrected and sit in the corner w/ my Humble Pie!

In Game 9 btw Jets/Bills 2004, the Jets chose the wind and ended up not receiving on either kickoff.

This thereby makes the only logical choice for winning the Toin Coss to Receive the Ball or you're cutting yourself off of at least one set of downs, possibly more.

kinda sux.

Posted by: Dik | October 24, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

injuries are never an excuse they are hurting at RB & TE but still win.The 4 #1s skins have plus 2nd rd smoot as 3rd corner, better earn theyre money? As for skins offense they will be lucky to score 10!

Posted by: jm220 | October 24, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

If Randy is back for week 15, that is at the Giants, followed by at Minnesota and home to the Cowboys. So yes, you play him if he can go.

Posted by: Sean | October 24, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Hello DMan88 from the Wizards blog. We're on to you with your fake posting as jm220. It's up to you whether you want to be a man and stop doing it, or if you're going to continue doing it in all your glory with your small weinie syndrome.

Posted by: washington post | October 24, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

******Fantasy You know What*******

Stumped - As the true Redskin Fan I am, I am sitting Randy Moss and the Kicker down this week. It's all about the skins, this weekend. I am still starting the Skinz D, but I am up in the air about Campbell and Portis. I have Culpepper and he is due to have a big game. Also, I am riding a 2 game losing streak that I need to snap.....

Posted by: 4th | October 24, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Rogers was sitting out the drill where the CBs were catching footballs. He might get hurt if one bounced off his hands wrong while he was trying to catch it.

Posted by: skinsfanfx | October 24, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

OMG

Are carlos and smoot really hurt. I hope not.

If so this could be like indy last year.

Posted by: M&M | October 24, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Is that the real jm220 or the faker?

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

please see 3:02 WaPo response Stumped

Posted by: Anonymous | October 24, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Im real
Guys its sad but true(metallica)our offense has played 6 games 4 at home and not 1 WR has a TD. Thats pathetic and even me KING of SPIN cant do it!More kool-aide please!

Posted by: jm220 | October 24, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

4th - You're Nuts to start the Skins D. I have them in my league too and am a total fantasy homer but you're gonna start a D -- even a good one -- against a pats team leading the league in points that loves to run up the score at the end of the game?!?

Posted by: Alex in LA | October 24, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Fake jerk-nuts, at least use some of your brain if you have one. You write like my 1st graders. Scratch that, they're more literate than you.

Posted by: abe howard | October 24, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

***Fantasy Post***
Better than starting him?
Check it out, 4th.

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Alex - I am going off the theory that they will not go 19-0 and score 40 points every game. Of course, this is only Wednesday and I am sure my mind is going to change by the time I get home tonight. But, benching Randy Moss still stands.....

Posted by: 4th | October 24, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

As much as I would like to have Thomas back.I think if we are out of playoff contention he should be put on IR. I really think DeMulling could surprise and fill in quite well. On Redskins.com the lineup for Sunday is Fabini playing tackle and DeMulling at right guard. Thats three guys on the line that have NE experience. Kendall with the Jets, Fabini with the Jets and DeMulling with the Colts. Thsi could be a closer game than we think.

Posted by: Jeff | October 24, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

TWP,
Thanks. It's fairly easy to see through. The real jm is all about quality posts.

I'll ITA until you block their IPs.

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Fantasy Post

F Fantasy football. I keep losing. lol

Posted by: jm220 | October 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Stumped. And I can't forget to thank my blog crush Lisa as well.

Posted by: jm220 | October 24, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Lisa ROOLZ
faker DROOLZ

Posted by: Dik | October 24, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Jeff,
I hope you're right. Wade has been getting blown off the ball.

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Hail Jeff - King of O'Line Sense!

Posted by: Dik | October 24, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I love the draft. There isn't another league where the draft is a complete fraud...

The 2001 draft saw some of the current top receivers in the NFL chosen. Washington had the 15th pick that year and selected HOF bound Rod Gardner. What is interesting besides the fact that he was a bust, is the receivers that were selected after him, brace yourself...


16 Santana Moss
30 Reggie Wayne
36 Chad Johnson
74 Steve Smith

Even when the Skins drafted future ring of honor nominee Darnerien McCants in the fifth round, they still overlooked my boy, he was chosen later in the 7th round.

204 T.J. Houshmandzadeh

I don't care what they do with the draft, they could move it on the spice channel for all I care. Its important for the future of a franchise, but more than likely, after a couple of years, the number one pick will be exposed as either a product of his college team or just couldn't develop to the next level. Anyway, you slice it the draft is highly overrated.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 24, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

4th - I hope you come to your sense. As much as I know they wont score 40 a game all season, and we're the best d (esp secondary) they've faced all year, they're still gonna score at least 25+ and brady's not gonna throw a lot of INTs like Warner and FavvvvrrAH. If Indy's avail in your league, pick them up -- their d looks better and better every week, and playing this week against a shaky carolina QB situation.

Benching Moss I'm all in favor of, though. Crazy, yes, but not quite as crazy as playing the skins D. And eliminates the need for you to be secretly happy when he burns double move for a 70 yard TD.

Posted by: Alex in LA | October 24, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Realist, Ouch. That is really upseting. I know it's a crap shoot, but can we please be the ones not drafting crap for just one year? Please!?

Posted by: nah | October 24, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't care what they do with the draft, they could move it on the spice channel for all I care.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 24, 2007 03:34 PM

No, they most definitely can't move it to the Spice channel.

Posted by: filling in for Bangbros | October 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Not sure your point. Drafting poorly doesn't diminish the draft it dimishes the stupid GM's.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 24, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

4th, it would be even more symbolic if you just dropped Randy Moss entirely.

Posted by: SMACK | October 24, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I would take Tom Brady out to nice steak dinner then not call him the next day.

Posted by: POOP | October 24, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

How do you become a talent scout in football?

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 24, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers should always be on the field catching the balls. Always. Never an excuse for him to be watching others catch balls.

Posted by: Colin | October 24, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Fantasy Post

F Fantasy football. I keep losing. lol

Posted by: jm220 | October 24, 2007 03:22 PM

jm- Try playing with 9 guys active, instead of only 7. You only had 7 playing against me a couple weeks ago, and I kicked your as....what's that? You still beat me anyway? Oops. Nevermind!

Posted by: 4-12 | October 24, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I would take Tom Brady out to nice steak dinner then not call him the next day.

Posted by: POOP | October 24, 2007 03:47 PM

HA thats funny

Posted by: SAK | October 24, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Dik and Stumped. To me that O-line makes sense. Wade has been blown of the line. Did u see what Kampman did to him in the Green Bay game? I think this lineup makes sense, at least for the NE game anyways but what do I know. You know our beloved Skins lately; if it makes sense they won't do it.

P.S. Pound Betts up the middle, stretch plays won't work on a 3-4 defense...YOU HEAR THAT CLINTON!

Posted by: Jeff | October 24, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

How many NFL Scouts does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

2 - One to screw it in, the other to do all your blow and insult your wife.

Zing!

Posted by: Dik | October 24, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Anon,

Every year these so-called experts make their choices of who the top pick should be. Their has to be a consensus pick because rarely you here someone second guessing that pick, and if they do usually they're selected in the top 5 anyway. So as I said, the draft while important for player personnel, is a showcase for the so-called experts anoint the next so-and-so. If you doubt it, do what I've been doing the last hour and breakdown the drafts the last 10 years.

Its not a lot, just look at the players you may consider decent to great and look where they were chosen.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 24, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

SkinsRealist,
Or teams doing their own scouting is underrated.

Posted by: Stumped | October 24, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | October 24, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

4th, it would be even more symbolic if you just dropped Randy Moss entirely.

Posted by: SMACK | October 24, 2007 03:47 PM

You just had to try it, didn't you? BTW, you were lucky last week, because my other stallworth Gates was on his bye week.....

Posted by: 4th | October 24, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Peep Peep

Posted by: Anonymous | October 24, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Alex, chemistry with Thomas should not be a big problem. He won't have to adjust much to player on his left - in fact, he played a lot more games next to Rabach than Fabini did. He also also played on the same line with Wade last year.

Posted by: M | October 24, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Griff & Carter bring Tommy around back

Posted by: The Woodshed | October 25, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

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