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Practice\Cowboys Stuff

Most of the guys who missed practice were as expected.

During the portion we get to watch, no Santana Moss, Randy Thomas James Thrash, Sean Taylor. Marcus Washington was in pads but we'll have to wait to find out how much work he actually did.

Pete Kendall was not practicing eithe. He has the arthritic knee condition and we're guessing this will be termed a "veteran's day off" as it has in the past.

Other than that, had a few thoughts after getting to watch several hours of game film on the Cowboys with a veteran player the other night. We watched most of the Dallas games against the Giants, New England and Philadelphia, getting to see plays from the overhead view and from the end zone view - the coaches tape - and you came away very impressed with that the Cowboys are doing on offense.

We we watching the Dallas O specifically, and I'm not sure there is a more aggressive O coordinator in the NFL than Jason Garrett right now. Even against teams playing a Cover-2 shell, and even when backed deep in their own territory, the Cowboys are taking shots.

They repeatedly had TO run deep go routes to the end zone, sometimes 2-3 plays in a row, and even when they didn't throw the ball there, it left an impression. As a defense you had to respect the bomb all the time, and when Dallas gets between the 40s, look out. Then they really go for the throat.

Several times during drives they sent TO deep and drew attention from the deep safety on his side of the field and threw screens to Barber on the weak side for big gains. A few plays looked similar to the one Westbrook broke on the Skins last week.

Romo is fearless. He sliced up the Giants secondary with outs to the sideline from the opposite hash mark - tough throws to make - and if the Skins ends don't contain Romo and prevent him from planting his foot when he rolls out of the pocket it could be a very long day.

New England had good success against Dallas with a 3 man rush, as their linebackers were outstanding in underneath coverage and at times Belichick actually ended up in a Cover-4, with two linebackers taking halves underneath and two deep safeties. The Pats corners also sloughed off quite a bit and while Dallas put up some points they weren't going to get the big plays against them.

With no Sean Taylor, and an ailing Smoot, this is going to be a tough task. The Skins corners know they will be tested heavily and it's going to be tough to see the Skins D Line getting a whole lot of pressure on their own against this beefy O Line (Leonard Davis is thriving as a guard; I thought he would be a bust). So what do you do? If you bring the blitz and go Cover-0, Romo is too athletic and squirms away and kills you. If you sit back, Whitten and Barber can gut you underneath. (Whitten is having a tremendous season and excelling at disengaging from a blocker at the line, getting out into 20 yard routes and wreaking havoc with the safeties. That dude is much quicker than he looks when you slow down the tape and really see how ground he covers. As for Barber, there was a play against New England where he broke 7 tackles to avoid a safety and covered the length of the end zone from one side to the other, breaking away from Rodney Harrison and then working right to the opposite pylon. It was pretty sick. Not having Taylor deep to step up and hammer him is not good, because he will flat out run over most corners in this league.)

As London Fletcher told me today, "There aren't a whole lot of weaknesses there for you to really pick on." And given the fact Dallas is about to get Terry Glenn back and is essentially healthy on O, and the Skins could be without Marcus and Taylor, it's a little crazy to expect Dallas isn't going to score 28 points.

The Skins have to open it up offensively. I don't think there's any other way. They have some talent there - banged up or not - and have to give the players more of a stake in the attack, stick with the no huddle stuff, keep it simplified and show more go-for-the-throat mentality. Because there's no doubt that's how Dallas is going to come at the Skins D.

I asked Campbell today if he was impressed with the way Garret calls a game. He smiled a little nervously, kind of tried to talk around the question, then said: "All I'll say is their exciting to watch." It was pretty obvious what he was thinking, and I know a lot of the veterans around here feel like if the Skins keep with their ball control, grinding style, then this season is gonna' slip away. They have to put pressure on these defenses, stretch them vertically and horizontally and play to win, rather than hoping merely not to lose a close game.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 14, 2007; 2:43 PM ET
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Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

first again ??!!!!!

Posted by: freedom0125 | November 14, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys 47 Redskins 9

This will be a blow out of epic proportions. Everyone is hurt. The Skins will probably just give up in the 2nd quarter as they have no heart.

Gibbs should probably just play the scrubs so none of the "core guys" get hurt. That way they will be fresh enough to win another 3 quarters before they give up in the fourth period.

We should change our name to the "Quarter Mile Horses."

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Moss is a wimp! He had his one good year with us and now we got the Moss that the NY Jets had....injury prone under productive WR. Look at Thrash, now there is a guy who will be back sooner than Moss because he is stronger in this work ethic. Oh my heel is sore and i can't put on my shoe, yet Thrash had a high ankle sprain and will be back sooner than Moss. Get rid of Washington too! I think they will still make a move for Briggs in the offseason.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | November 14, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

A waste of time history dork rant was posted on the last thread... if you're bored, go read my useless 2 cents.

Skins by 40!

Posted by: Dorf | November 14, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm slow and it took me a while to work this out. But now that I've written it, I insist that everyone read it and be convinced.

The name "Redskins" is not a cause, a symptom, nor a consequence of the lowly status of Native Americans in our society. If the name were changed, it wouldn't improve their lives in the least.

Native Americans have real problems. Compared to other Americans, even recent immigrants they have: higher rates of alcoholism, higher unemployment, lower incomes, lower educational attainment, and shorter life spans. These are their real problems, not the fact that the Washington football team is called the Redskins.

Their "leaders" and supporters, who waste energy on this "cause," are tilting at windmills and -- by diverting attention -- are helping to perpetuate the challenges that Native Americans face. Shouldn't you be trying to improve their schools, first, and then worrying about the name of the Washington football team? It's like being taken to an emergency room after an automobile accident with life-threatening injuries and delaying your admission until the nurse spelled your name right in the computer.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey talent evaluator......shut up! This is football talk not American Talk. Guess what loser , the Skins will not change their name......

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | November 14, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

New post. Same old tired American Indian history talk.

Posted by: bigfish | November 14, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

My cuts for after the season-


Moss- Can't stay on the field. Not living up to his hype anymore.

Jansen- Same as above and paid to much.

Thomas- Same as Jansen.

Brandon Lloyd- Loser.

Brunell- Should have been cut after 2004.

Collins- whatever.....

Ladell Betts- Fumbler.


M. Washington- Old.

Springs- Old.

Griffin- Broken down.

Daniels- Broken down and really old.


Then trade Portis, Samuels and Cooley for a bunch of draft picks and start over.

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

American Indian is what i mean't

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | November 14, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"All I'll say is their exciting to watch."

Wow. Jason doesn't know the difference between "their" and "they're." At least he doesn't write for a living. Oh...wait...

Posted by: LiberalMike | November 14, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, jjwilson -- Neither of you sounds convinced. I may have to try to explain it to you another way.

X_1967 -- Dude, it's a long way to the end of the season. Lot can happen. We should be talking about the Redskins name right now. In any event none of the guys you want to trade is tradable.

LiberalMike--Is this your first day on the blog? Everyone knows Jason can't spell on the blog posts and maybe not in real life. We go along with it, though. If we pointed out every time he got the wrong word, we wouldn't have any time for the important stuff like why they're called the Redskins.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Keep Jansen and Thomas, ditch Moss, Brunell, Collins, Washington, Daniels, Springs.

Bring in, Briggs, Drayton Florence, maybe Jared Allen, WR- Greg Carr from Florida State and a guard in the second or third round

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | November 14, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Good call t_e,

DALLAS WEEK! the Cowgirls better "circle the wagons" cuz the Redskins are COMING!

Posted by: LiberalMike | November 14, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey talent evaluator.... get scalped!

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | November 14, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Hold up... Jason spent a couple hours watching tape with a veteran player? We need some inside information on THAT. I don't ever remember hearing that the beat reporter was breaking down film with a player!

Which veteran player? Where? What sort of snacks and beverages were enjoyed? Details!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 14, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

X-1967, wow. I don't even know what to say to that.

So, Portis is 3rd in the NFC in Rushing, is what 26 years old, but he should be traded? So if I'm hearing you correctly, after his cap hit ACCELERATES onto next years cap, which will happen again, for Samuels, and Cooley, and you only have enough cap space to field a team of 13 players, how is that going to work out for you?

Step 1.
Engage Brain
Step 2.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | November 14, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

T E-


The Redskins name should never be changed. Screw the losers that waste their time belly aching about it.


Portis, Cooley and Samuels could all be traded. Skins could rework their contracts and dump them on some idiot team. Oh I forgot, we are the idiot team.....dang!

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse;_ylt=AlAm57Hhj.VaB9_NhQ4lyrs5.3QA

Redcoat - Help is on the way. You could use some of what Ricky's got (both talent wise and stash wise) to get over this season :)


Posted by: argh | November 14, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

The problem I keep having with "they need to open it up," etc. etc. is when they try to, somebody screws up. I think the players aren't executing well enough to open it up. Dallas and New England can because they don't miss blocks, have penalties, drop balls, etc. Someone needs to tell these "veterans" to have some responsibilty and maybe the offense could open up.

Posted by: carymowerandsaw | November 14, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"So, Portis is 3rd in the NFC in Rushing, is what 26 years old, but he should be traded? "

Actually, Portis is 3rd in the entire league in rushing.

Posted by: JustMe | November 14, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the Italian Spiderman can save us this Sunday......

Posted by: P00P | November 14, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Step 1.
Engage Brain
Step 2.

Maybe the Skins management should engage their brains. Let's field a crap team for a while and keep all the great draft picks we get from those years. Then we'll have a bunch of crazed young guys running around trying to "earn" future big checks as opposed to guys that come here to retire to a life of leisure while acting like "core guys."

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

And it looks like the Pats road to a Super Bowl victory and an undefented season just got a lot clearer as well


Posted by: argh | November 14, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

word on the street is portis is dressing up as "5 finger discount" tomorrow. can't wait to see the costume.

Posted by: chelseatest | November 14, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Just, thanks for the clarification. I knew it was third, but wasn't sure if it was overall or not.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | November 14, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Portis, Cooley and Samuels could all be traded. Skins could rework their contracts

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 03:34 PM

Okay, we're getting somewhere. I convinced both X and jjwilson that the 'Skins shouldn't change their name. bigfish, you good with that?

Now, X, can you tell me how we negotiate with these guys?

"Clinton, we want you to agree to take a lower salary (less wampum) so that we can trade you to another team. If you don't take this offer, then we're going to cut you and you'll be a free agent and can sign with anyone you want and can negotiate a big signing bonus. Deal or no deal?"

So Clinton says... Remember, Clinton's agent isn't LaVar's. Clinton's agent reads the papers before Clinton signs them.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I guess Portis and Samuels haven't been playing hard or trying the last 2 weeks while we are running over teams. I'm pissed about how we are playing but some people are just clueless.

Posted by: cdubb | November 14, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

X, for starters, both Cooley, and Samuels were drafted by us. I wont even get into the fact that both of these guys, along with Portis play their @sses off each week. Samuels STONED whomever was opposite him. He's a great player, but good call wanting to trade him, so for the next group of years, Campbell can get buried. Logical.

Portis? Again, logic. Try it sometime.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | November 14, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

This game will be a complete blowout.

I believe Williams will undoubtedly play a deep Cover-2 like last week and make the Cowboys earn every score. That's all he can do...

Cowboys will notch 30 first downs.

Skins should consider this game a victory if they avoid any more bad injuries.

Posted by: gdennie | November 14, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Skins best and perhaps only playoff scenario is that they go into the last game at 8-7.

Dallas rests their key players since they have wrapped home field for the NFC.

Skins sneak in at 9-7 just ahead of New Orleans.

Posted by: gdennie | November 14, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Man... X_1967! That is bold... but makes absolutely no sense! U'm lets see... we would have no receivers, no O-Line, no TE and no RB's... sure we could easily fill all those holes in the draft.

I'm not sure why I'm even responding to your 'cuts' post... b/c it's so assanine it's not even worthy or a response...

Posted by: EinVB | November 14, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Portis has been hurt the last year and a half. Have you forgotten he missed half of last year, all offseason, preseason and didn't have a 100 yard game before the Jets?

Short memories around here. His knee is bad and it's not going to get better due to the fact he's had as many carries in his career so far as many 30 year olds. It's called mileage. An good running back lasts about 4 years. Did anyone happen to look at the leading rushers this past weekend? Four of them were picked up off the street. Selvin Young, Jesse Chatman, Ryan Grant and Willie Parker.

Fine, if we can't trade him cut him.

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay, me and the Glover Park Crew started a second binder (there is a long history of The Binder) Every member of the group submits anecdotes, jokes, fiction, poems and what have yous about the Redskins. Here are the first two poems that we put out by The Rabbit and the second is by The Desert Fox.

Darkness (Part I)

By The Rabbit

Joy, Oh Joy
Sunday exuberant exhale
green chimera, ambient senses
Darkness awaits in the hovel
dum dee, dum da
ha ha ha
down eight pointers in the pod
down two pointers
Patrick overthrows Laveranues
tick-tock, zero
Darkness awakens from his nap
Puts his dick on all our backs
quiet stillness, silent charms of decay
roos limps upstairs with his disappoint in hand
all is damp
the window closed, shutting door
roos enters his womb
Darkness drowns light
Covers over his face
Wail of the dead
"Why O'captain, have thee strangled my hope?"
"Why O'captain, have thee left us behind?
"Hither and thither, we walk blind"
deathly stalks shoot up from the ground
tree tops, rotted fruits

Here is the one by Desert Fox:

The Dessert Fox and the Lumpkin

Oh wan that april did the fox go out from his hole. A jersey! Said he as he donned he colors of his youth that did not run lest it be 50 gut or the counter trey to the mouths of the foes of forrest.

A small vexing man stood there then. They were suddenly atop the area wherein no battles had been won. Nigh unto 10 years since the abondoning of the old home wherefore glory had come.

For the man spoke:
'I have gathered aged talent! Bruce of buffalo, neon of dallindus. I shall mix with soft generals who would bend to my will. My lieutenant shall be mine own left hand that I do use to flog the clown. All shall come witness my spectacle...all shall pay.'

The fox was vexed by the vexer. Sadness grew in his mind. For he knew what he had loved was dead. Every week a new storm of dung reined down from a made up town where men seemed unready to face foes. A black cloud of despair hung over him. Newsmen missed it. Wool unto their eyes. Fear overtook him and sent him to burrow into his own heart with the hopes of a small boy who was handed a football by the gladiator monk.

Try hard did the warrior monk say. For his childhood was granted then. Lost is the spirit and belief in change. Try as they might, the vexing man and his agents could never make the fox forget adam archuletta.

The son of the fox cannot know this pain. He is wounded and sought counsel. None came. Only dark. The same dark. The same discord. The same arrows of terror every sunday would cover the sky from their hallows of impending doom. None can believe again. How could they? The song is the same; only the telling is different.

Posted by: songofroland | November 14, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse


How is 9-7 better than 12-4? May be unlikely, but it is still a scenario.

Are you saying they have no real chance to beat the bears, bills, and cowboys at home (by then with Taylor and maybe Thomas back) and beat Minnesota and ONE of Tampa Bay, Giants, and Dallas on the road? Of course they do, and that would get them to 10-6.

Posted by: LiberalMike | November 14, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse


You are the kind of fan the cowholes deserve. Maybe you should join their blog and put us out of our misery. Listening to your sorry analysis makes me want to yak.


Posted by: squashmo | November 14, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse


please no more i give up

Posted by: chelseatest | November 14, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Actually, TE, I'm pretty sure you and X have been agreeing on not changing the name through this entire debacle. And JustMe, you took the words right outta my fingers, I was right about to type that. Hell, an Adrian Peterson like performance outta Portis gets him about 4 yds away from first in the NFL. There is no way we are dumping Cooley or Portis, and I highly doubt Samuels; I am not just saying this because I just got done buying a Cooley jersey, but...Cooley just signed his extension, his drive thru bank should know about this...Portis was injured earlier this year and is still #3 in the league in rushing....Samuels has been here since his beginning, and doesn't really get injured during the year. Why get rid of these players? Build your offense off of them and Campbell, theres no reason to drop em!

Posted by: tweedr01 | November 14, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why I'm even responding to your 'cuts' post... b/c it's so assanine it's not even worthy or a response...

Posted by: EinVB | November 14, 2007 03:57 PM

Your responding because there is a grain of truth to it all.

I only cut Moss and Lloyd at WR.

We still have ARE and Reche Caldwell (youngish).

Also, WR are a dime a dozen.

Traded Cooley. So what? How many catches does he have this year? We can find another TE in the draft and save the money.

And we'll have no OL? We don't have one now in case you missed it. Jansen-hurt. Thomas -hurt. Rabach-hurting. Pete Kendall-hurting and is 34 YEARS OLD! He's toast after this year. Wade? A career sub. Fabini? Jet and Cowboy castoff.

Time to rebuild.

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

X_1967, what are you thinking? Thats a pretty ridiculous statement saying we should trade those 3 guys. Cooley and Samuels are two of our greatest assets, so why in the world would you want to get rid of them? U must be a cowgirls fan.

Posted by: jdixon35 | November 14, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

*beep* *beep* And, it's a good one. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | November 14, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

X, dude Cooley was the only one still fighting in the Pats game. Did you see the anger as he dragged that defender from the 7 yard line to get the td? We can't count catches this year for Cooley because of the one thing you are right about, the O-Line, he's had to chip all year long. We really have to keep Jansen, Thomas, Rabach, and Kendall because they are very, very good, just a little old. Samuels is getting a little old but is still good for the next few years. I do see what you mean about drafting for oline coming up, but no matter how good the olinemen we draft they won't be better than the line we currently have when healthy, but preparation is everything!

Posted by: tweedr01 | November 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Chelseatest, what do you mean please no more I give up? Explain.

Posted by: songofroland | November 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse


No, I don't see 10-6. Skins should win Minnesota, Bears, and maybe Bills here.

Bills are no slouch team - 4 in a row I think.

TB, Giants, Cowboys on the road will be very difficult. TB coming off two bye weeks (the real one and then Atl.). Garcia was brutal last year against the Skins.

We can disagree, but this is just my objective view.

Gibbs offensive game plan Sunday will not be wide open. No way. He's up against a high power offense, so he will try to shorten the game.

He'll run CP at least 30 times if he can. I just don't see him cutting Jason loose this Sunday.

Posted by: gdennie | November 14, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I am thinking it is time we start playing like a team with the highest payroll in the league.

I am sick and tired of that punk "awshucks" look on players faces when they don't execute on third and one from the 5 yard line with the game in the balance. The "oops I made a mistake" attitude like it will be okay.

It's not okay. These guys need to fear coming to work the week after a loss because they are a bunch of screw ups and can't put a game away. Losing is contagious. They act like losers.

We need a new group of guys that want to kick ass and take names.

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Why bother playing this week? Why not just mail in the forfeit and let everybody rest?

I mean look at them, they have a young coordinator! How are we supposed to match that?! All we have are a bunch of old farts who won a few trophies or something a while back. I don't remember much about it.

They have receivers that mug for the camera and do funny endzone celebrations. Oh, and they run DEEP routes, too. Mind-boggling. How are we supposed to compete with that? Nothing you can do about it!

And seriously, they're QB dates country singers. Who does our QB date? No one famous, unfortunately. The best we got is a TE who messes with the cheerleaders. The injustice.

Stay home Redskins. The media has already decided that you've lost. By a lot. Nothing you can do about it!

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 14, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I agree Jansen is overpaid. We front-loaded Portis and Samuels deals so we can re-work them and convert some of it to cap friendlier signing bonuses. With a strong finish and the imminent return of R Thomas, Portis could very well finish this season as the NFL's leading rusher. That would be a great accomplishment given his slow start and the fact that he's running behind a make-shift line most weeks... whose strength is on the left side. Peterson is going to miss a few weeks and the way the Steelers are throwing the ball, Parker can also be caught.

That said, record-wise, we still control our own destiny if we protect home field and steal 1 or 2 on the road. I agree with previous posters that its time to challenge the Defenses with Jason in the shot-gun more and get vertical with whomever the WR's are. By the way, what is the deal with Caldwell? Has he been on the field any?

Posted by: gregskins | November 14, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Why do you all bother responding (or acknowledging) X_1967, the dude who calls himself Riggo, or MMZ117? Actually I believe they are all the same person.

Ignore them and they will get tired of posting to themselves.

Posted by: Lisa | November 14, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Their "leaders" and supporters, who waste energy on this "cause," are tilting at windmills and -- by diverting attention -- are helping to perpetuate the challenges that Native Americans face. Shouldn't you be trying to improve their schools, first, and then worrying about the name of the Washington football team?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 14, 2007 03:16 PM

As frmer owner of the New York Jews Football team, whose name was changed to the South Florida Negroes after the franchise was transferred, I say SPOT ON! Talent Evaluator!

You'll LOVE this story. A number of tribes had opened Casinos in New Mexico and were profitting from same. The last tribe to request approval for a Casino near Santa Fe were surprised to find they were turned down and not granted permission to build a gambling casino on their own land.

No dummies, they, they hired a sharp lawyer who looked into the matter and at the next City Council meeting, he had the tribe make announcement. While they needed approval for a Casino, they could convert their property to any other purpose they wished, and they ahd decided to open a Nuclear Waste Dump.

They got their Casino.

Posted by: corkczar | November 14, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Skins fan all my life but i know where the money is. I'll give 9 points and the skins to anyone who put up $100 or more.

This game will be similair to the NE game. If not it will still be a blowout by NFL standards.

Half the team is hurt and the other half stinks. Any takers?

Posted by: dave197391 | November 14, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Ignore them and they will get tired of posting to themselves.

Posted by: Lisa | November 14, 2007 04:25 PM

But Lisa, since you have responded, my efforts are rejuvinated!

Posted by: X_1967 | November 14, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Whoever says trade Cooley and Samuels is an ass!!! Just see how long Campbell stays upright if Samuels is gone...

Anyway, we're gonna get killed Sunday. I'm more worried about the defense than the offense. Where's Mark Murphy and Curtis Jordan when you need them. I say bring John Jefferson out of the front office and suit him up!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | November 14, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I had been looking forward to this game all year until Rogers injured his knee. Now that Taylor is out too, the defense is going to have to find some swinging souls to overcome these odds. All hope isn't lost but darn close.

Posted by: bangkokben | November 14, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

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