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Springs Works at Safety; Landry Sits Out

With LaRon Landry and Kareem Moore banged up, Shawn Springs was taking some reps at safety in the morning practice, Jason Reid calls in to report. There've been discussions among the coaches about using Springs at the position in the past and Landry wasn't participating in positional drills this morning. He was on the sideline working with athletic trainers on his left leg. The team announced no injuries Wednesday and it probably isn't anything serious, but it bears watching.

I was surprised to see Landry not involved in the special teams practice Wednesday afternoon, so I sprinted, literally, down the Astroturf field to catch special teams coach Danny Smith, who was sprinting, literally, to a meeting. Smith assured me that Landry would be taking part in special teams, but mostly on the punt units, which were not featured in Wednesday's special teams session. He'll probably be on the field for Friday's special teams work.
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Jim Zorn is using a team of officials at practice for the first time. ... Joe Gibbs used them for every session, you'll recall.
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Shaun Suisham missed a short field goal during 11 on 11 drills. It clanged off the right upright and out.
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Zorn has come up with another of his special drills. In this one, the quarterback takes the snap and the other QBs -- plus Zorn, plus Sherman Smith -- throw those big blocking pads (they're soft, but they're probably 2 1/2 feet wide by maybe 4 feet long) at the scrambling QB, simulating a rush. Jason Campbell is particularly enthusiastic about throwing the pads. He lifts them over his head and flings them.
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Spent a little time with H.B. Blades the other day, who is working as London Fletcher's understudy, with Khary Campbell taking reps as a backup weakside LB and working with the starters while Rocky McIntosh sits out some team drills. Blades said he has grown more comfortable with all three linebacker positions in this defense and is open to doing anything and everything he can to get on the field as much as possible. He also hasn't lost that chip on shoulder from sliding down the 2007 draft, and says he never will. ...

The punting battle is still a good 10 days from really heating up - the preseason games will be the determining factor - but I expect Derrick Frost and Durant Brooks to go head-to-head (Toe-to-toe? Good thing Jason Taylor is here.) a little bit during Saturday's scrimmage as well. Personally, it was always a nice evaluating tool to watch the Redskins scrimmage the Ravens, but with Washington opening camp earlier and having to play the fifth exhibition game, I figured that the team would do everything it could to limit the chance of injury, and that the Ravens scrimmage would be a casualty.

By Jason La Canfora  |  July 24, 2008; 10:09 AM ET
 
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any ideas on cap space left?

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Landry has the instinct to be a game changer. Need him on the field as much as possible. Hopefully he can pull back just enough to keep the flags from coming.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

I think we pretty much burned up our cap space on J. Taylor.


Had to be done though.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, thanks for the 'welcome back' in the previously thread, and for the 'beep beep' notification.

I'm curious to see how Monty, and Golston perform this year. Year 3 for them, we're past the 'young player' stage. They both need to ramp it up.

Posted by: Greg | July 24, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

By John Keim

How has Colt Brennan been looking? How about Justin Tryon or Chad Rinehart? John reports on these guys and many more in this, his Day 4 Analysis.

...Jason Taylor worked on both sides of the line today, first lining up on the right side with Andre Carter on the left side. Clearly they'll use Taylor all over the place at times.

...Rookie tackle Chad Rinehart has looked very good. He handled Taylor for the most part this morning. Taylor is obviously not at peak form - one NFL source called him a slow-starter, for what it's worth - but Rinehart did a very nice job. He still sets up a little too upright for me, but his footwork is sound.

...Taylor did get inside Jon Jansen on one stunt. But Jansen has fared well against him thus far.

...Chris Wilson seems no different than last year. Rinehart handled him easily. My Favorite Rookie also drove out Carter on one play. He's playing exactly the way some draft experts told me he would.

...Pass of the day: Jason Campbell hitting Antwaan Randle El on a corner route in the end zone. Randle El dragged his feet inbounds to complete the 25-yard pass in this two-minute drill.

...I thought Demetric Evans looked bigger and sure enough he is, by about 10 pounds. Seems he followed Phillip Daniels' power-lifting routine and is clearly stronger. He's flashed as much as any lineman this camp.

...Shawn Springs picked off Derek Devine. Guessing that won't go in his trophy case.

...The more I see of Colt Brennan, the more I think he's several years away from contributing, if at all. His delivery needs fixing; he needs to bulk up; and he needs to make quicker decisions. Other than that ...

...But the rookie class has some promise. End Rob Jackson does something every so often to make you go, ''hmmmm.'' Today, he dropped into coverage and deflected a pass. At this stage, he's merely intriguing. But that's a little more than I anticipated.

...Rookie corner Justin Tryon, another guy with good potential, went stride for stride with Devin Thomas and broke up a deep pass. He later had good coverage on Billy McMullen, showing the ability to turn and run.

... London Fletcher's wife delivered their second child Tuesday morning; Cortland Steele Fletcher. How nice that a linebacker gives his son the name Steel(e). Fitting.

...Corner Matteral Richardson had nice coverage on Malcolm Kelly on a deep route. He ran with him, turned at the last moment and deflected the pass from Devine.

...At the end of practice, both sides of the ball picked a representative from among the linemen to field a punt. If they caught it, their sides of the ball would get an extra hour of curfew. Justin Geisinger went first and easily caught a high punt from Derrick Frost. Next came Ryan Boschetti, who actually moved to his left to catch a wobbly Durant Brooks punt. Boschetti then punted the ball away to cheers from his defensive mates.



Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse


Greg does that mean that JC needs to amp it up then too? ;)

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Good morning...Nice to see the gang coming back from summer vaca and, gasp, thinking about things non-football related.
As for the cap...They had about $9.6 million before signing Devin Thomas and Fred Davis and that probably lopped off a mil. JTaylor counts for $7.5 mil, so they've probably got about a million smackeroos to play with.

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Yup, he does. He's got loads of weapons at his disposal, more-so than ever before. I think he's got all the tools he needs to be a very successful qb. Hopefully this is the right situation for him to do that.

Posted by: Greg | July 24, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Greg, I couldn't agree more. Well said. I was listening to Pat Kirwan on my way in from work...and he seems to think that JC has a LOT of work to do.

Of course he's a failed GM with the jets and didn't do a good job of evaluating talent at all!

Is JC clearly the best QB on our roster? I don't know...but part of me hopes so...at least for this season anyway. I think that the current group of Redskins( moss, are, portis, washington, fletcher, jt, andre, springs) vets does not have a very long shelf life at all. I think 3 years MAX. That's why I hope that JC is the answer and the only reason I hope so. It would really be a waste of a solid team with an avg. qb if not!

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

thanks cindy! ')

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Alex, You must have had different experiences at Johnny Rockets than I have. Sounds like you skipped the hamburger and went straight for the buns.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 24, 2008 8:25 AM

Thats what she said.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 24, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

A lot of literal sprinting going on up here. I prefer to stick to figurative sprinting.

I'm also on the side of intrinsic vs. extrinsic, but whatevs...

As long as Blades' chip on his shoulder translates into his working his butt off and becoming a better player, I'm happy to hear he's retaining that chip. It suits him.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 24, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I can't speak to the Johnny Rockets burger, but their fries are tasty.
Check the new top....LaRon Landry update.

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone witnessed Fred Davis "live?" I'm a bit concerned with him. I'd like to say that I'm glad that he's on our roster and not the Giants roster, or anyone else's in the NFC East for that matter.

However I haven't heard many positives in published reports of camp. And besides Carson Palmer( quite a while ago) USC picks haven't fared well at all on pro teams. I can think of a lot that just don't seem to "get it," but have loads of un-realized potential.

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

I left the "literally" in because it made me laff.
Alex, since you're in the neighborhood, could you bring me a coffee? Thanking you in advance....

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

The note about the silly, nutty QB drill foreshadows the "Campbell sprains shoulder throwing blocking dummy" post coming next... shudder...

Though I do like the imagery of Campbell chucking a giant pillow at his ostensible rivals at the position.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 24, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

By the by - came up with an interesting quote from JLC re: the immaculate deception that I thought might interest some:

"Adams, Va.: Is there anyway they try to go after the Pats' Scott Pioloi?

Jason La Canfora: If Snyder told a boldface lie Tuesday about his desire for a GM, then no. And you know what, if actually did an about face and landed a Pioli he would get lauded by everyone.


That's part of the business and deception is part of his job.


But the message Snyder sent explicitly to Redskins coaches, players and fans during his press conferfence yesterday was that the front office structure is essentially the best part of the organization"

Posted by: Rich | July 24, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Ordinarily, you'd have to commend the "kill the QB" instinct, unless it's in a QB...It's probably okay unless Campbell throws the pads at himself.
There for a bit, Richmond, it looked like Reggie Bush got it...

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Alex, since you're in the neighborhood, could you bring me a coffee? Thanking you in advance....

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:09 AM

I am no longer allowed in the Starbucks or Caribou in the neighborhood. There were incidents...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

richmond, I feel like there have been some positive mentions of good catches by Fredskin (can I go ahead and trademark that one?) at camp so far.

I haven't read anything about the kid that raised my eyebrows since the we-should-probably-move-on-from-this-anyway oversleeping thing.

Just hope playing behind a Pro Bowler will bring out the best in him and encourage him to work hard, instead of being handed a starting position right away.

And I hope he can block, so we can run a variety of plays out of a 2-TE set. Not sure if I've seen any mention of his blocking skills.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 24, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Nate I've only heard encouraging things about F. Davis as well. That two TE set has the potential of being very powerful for the skins as it would really have defenses guessing if the skins will run or pass out of it.

Posted by: MJ | July 24, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, I guess I'll have to wait until 9/14 on the Bush assessment...but I have serious doubts.

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't "Alarm Clock On" with the starting squad yesterday? I bet my friend from philly that Davis would be a better No 2 TE than the Eagles.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 24, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Nate, and MJ that 's what this blog can do...it can set us straight, and take assumption out of the equation!

Fredskin has gotten ink, and there has been a lot more going on then rookies reporting! I would rate the ink on Fredskin and thomas as "mentionables". Meaning, it isn't glaring but doesn't seem to be contrived either.

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

There is a Saxby's in the neighborhood....

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

The Truth is going on the record and saying that Freddy D. will be a beast and a very good player. The Truth says to write it down!

Posted by: The Truth | July 24, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

jeez, here we go again.

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I have doubts about Bush as well.

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I have doubts about Bush as well.

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:28 AM

My dad used to say that in the late 80's early 90's. also said it allot in the 21st century.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 24, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

we can hope so Truth.

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I have doubts about Bush as well.

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:28 AM

My dad used to say that in the late 80's early 90's. also said it allot in the 21st century.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 24, 2008 9:31 AM

Your dad must be a little slow. He should have no doubts...Bush is an IDIOT!

Posted by: Prodigal Son | July 24, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Your dad must be a little slow. He should have no doubts...Bush is an IDIOT!

Posted by: Prodigal Son | July 24, 2008 9:35 AM

I appreciate your skepticism.

Posted by: George W. Bush | July 24, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

The Truth you are a little late. Sleepy Davis has already been called out by many to be a stud.

Posted by: Skinz | July 24, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Even us radicals believe in giving everyone a chance.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 24, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

The Truth is going on the record and saying that Freddy D. will be a beast and a very good player. The Truth says to write it down!

Posted by: The Truth | July 24, 2008 9:26 AM

Hmmm, write it down, you say? That seems redundant. But what the hell.


There ya go.

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 24, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

This will turn out to be one of the best drafts for the Redskins. It's going to be a good stretch of years for the Skins.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Here's a mini-update from Jasno...Chris Wilson is limping on the sidelines and not taking part in team drills; Landry not taking part either right now.

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Please allow me to be Yogi Berra for a second...


these injuries are going to really start to hurt us.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Also, richmond, my man Redskin Willie (big PAC 10 fan out here in Portland) watched a ton of USC games and absolutely believes Fred Davis is a big-time talent, and we will be happy he dropped into our laps in the second round.

This Willie-esque scouting report plus the so-far good nuggets from training camp are ever so slightly mitigating my lingering astonishment/disappointment that we led off the draft WR-TE-WR... I know, I know, stop grinding that axe...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 24, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

This will turn out to be one of the best drafts for the Redskins. It's going to be a good stretch of years for the Skins.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 9:47 AM

It better be because as it stands right now, next year's draft is shaping up to look like a typical Snyder era draft (meaning low # of picks).

Posted by: psps23 | July 24, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Sorry guys but a little late...is there a scrimmage on Saturday against the Ravens and is it on TV?

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

whats with all the white space at the top of the screen?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

psp, what happens if the Redskins trade back and get more picks, similar to what htey did this year?

2009 draft talk...catch the fever!!

Posted by: Greg | July 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

as one of the 'regulars' nate, I respect your opinion and anyone else's that you endorse.

and I hope that he plays like he did against my alma mater two years ago in the rose bowl!

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

New updates at the top...Springs at safety...

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

White space gone.

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Sorry guys but a little late...is there a scrimmage on Saturday against the Ravens and is it on TV?

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 9:58 AM

Given that the Ravens haven't even started camp yet, I doubt it.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Sorry guys but a little late...is there a scrimmage on Saturday against the Ravens and is it on TV?

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 9:58 AM

Given that the Ravens haven't even started camp yet, I doubt it.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 10:00 AM

Didn't JLa say something about it in his last couple lines? Maybe I'm confused...

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Draft:

D-line(again)
CB(again)
OL(again)
RB
QB(?) :)

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

svxcountry,

JLa was saying that he's a little bummed that there will be no Redskins - Ravens scrimmage this year.

The Skins are holding a scrimmage on Saturday for fan appreciation day, but its Redskins only. So, skins offense against skins defense.

Posted by: swb | July 24, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

No Ravens scrimmage, which is too bad. Those were always interesting, unless, of course you happen to be Mike Anderson.
The Redskins will scrimmage against themselves on Saturday at 2 p.m. There's no 8:30 practice that day.

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Will J. Campbell be on a short leash this season, especially with a veteran T. Collins in the background?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Okay not confused anymore...I remember that now...that's what happens when you wake up and read JLa right away I guess.

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Blocking will be the key for Fredskin, I have to think he is a gift and the reason we did not get a DE (best player available) How come I have not heard about how LaRon played at a higher level when it mattered most (rookie???) two int's in a play-off game

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Posted by: skinfan4 life | July 24, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

F the 09 draft, we got a season to prep for!!!!


By the way Cindy/WaPo...I felt the M. Kelly Redskins Unrestricted was the best yet. Love the detailed info and the use of the Ken Burns effect on the photo slide show!

Posted by: chris larry | July 24, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

good question Cheyenne, WY.

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Ravens start camp today. Well, the vets show up today - rookies were already there.

Posted by: [cc] | July 24, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

chris larry, did you forget that this is RI and not the official blog? ;)

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I think J. Campbell will be fully released under Zorn and this will be his final/best change to flourish as a QB

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I gifured it would be his best cahnce to get out there and show what he can do as a QB.

How long will Zorn (being a former QB) leave him out there if he is not getting it done?

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I should say though that I think he will have one hell of a year at QB. Hes got the stuff and hes going to show it.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

No...although on the official blog they actually have a good post!!!!!!!

It has some (pretty bad) video of the Zorn blocking pad drill...

Posted by: chris LArry | July 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I think Zorn gives him all year no matter what.

Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and it's an intra-squad scrimmage on Saturday so no Ravens.

Also, WUSA 9 has a pro bowl special on Saturday at 7pm:

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=36555

Posted by: [cc] | July 24, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Cheyenne Berra, thanks, gave me a good chuckle on a busy morning.

Posted by: Mark in 21132 | July 24, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

the upcoming season has nothing to do with the draft needs of the team going into said season, because the draft needs haven't radically changed since last winter.

Posted by: richmond redskin | July 24, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

beep beep news...

Posted by: Cindy | July 24, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

psp, what happens if the Redskins trade back and get more picks, similar to what htey did this year?

Posted by: Greg | July 24, 2008 9:58 AM

I'd be all for it. Just saying that as it stands now, this is the crucial transition draft class to keep the team from falling into a total rebuilding phase. As of right now, we won't be able to address many needs in next year's draft (especially if you take the stance that the 10 picks this year could only address 'so many needs,' as has been iterated on this blog).

Posted by: psps23 | July 24, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

With the offense we fielded last year- predictable, conservative, run first, filler OL due to injuries- most Ds were able to put 8 in the box, our WRs were not able to break away, it's a wonder JC did not look worse last season. This year he will make believers out of all the doubters out there (here).

Zorn needs to call plays as if his job is not on the line and JC needs to play as if his job is not on the line. With that mindset, the Skins will win.

Posted by: Curzon417 | July 24, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

If anything I think Campbell might be on a longer leash, because he's learning yet another offense.

Zorn knows QB, he wouldn't put so much effort into someone he didn't believe in. And Collins is too old to put any faith into.

Posted by: Josh | July 24, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

It's a real shame when you cant take criticism.
Wow, I guess the guy cant see that he needs any improvement.

Posted by: D | July 24, 2008 8:55 AM

Maybe I didn't express this well. Jasno has no problem with criticism of himself or his work. He was always open to it and, in the early days of the blog, he would respond to it sometimes. And no one has brought any criticism in the past year that he hadn't heard before that. He's heard the criticism, he's considered it, but he doesn't agree with it.

His problem with "anger and hate" referred to all the fighting, hate, and hostility posted on the blog. Most of it has nothing to do with what he wrote or even with the Redskins. It has to do with people like Purple Haze or the nut sack guy or the anons who have nothing to do but criticize the other posters and attack "the regulars," each other, the Redskins' management, and whatever inner demons they're feeling at the time.

This isn't "criticism" he's ignoring. It is borderline psychotic. Read over the posts yesterday afternoon and you can see why he stopped reading.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 24, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I think we need to evalute the conditioning coaches with all the injuries starting again. Devin Thomas now has a hamstring! Starting to look alot like last year! This is a little scary!

Posted by: Lance | July 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It's a real shame when you cant take criticism.
Wow, I guess the guy cant see that he needs any improvement.

Posted by: D | July 24, 2008 8:55 AM

Maybe I didn't express this well. Jasno has no problem with criticism of himself or his work. He was always open to it and, in the early days of the blog, he would respond to it sometimes. And no one has brought any criticism in the past year that he hadn't heard before that. He's heard the criticism, he's considered it, but he doesn't agree with it.

His problem with "anger and hate" referred to all the fighting, hate, and hostility posted on the blog. Most of it has nothing to do with what he wrote or even with the Redskins. It has to do with people like Purple Haze or the nut sack guy or the anons who have nothing to do but criticize the other posters and attack "the regulars," each other, the Redskins' management, and whatever inner demons they're feeling at the time.

This isn't "criticism" he's ignoring. It is borderline psychotic. Read over the posts yesterday afternoon and you can see why he stopped reading.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 24, 2008 10:58 AM

_____________


Get over it TE,

Jasno DOES have a problem with criticism and he's afraid to confront it.

Anyone who has been on this blog, knows it has gone to total crap over the last year an a half and its because 9 out of every 10 post is Jasno whining and complaining about Snyder and/or Cerrato.

Even when they pull off a brilliant move and swipe Jason Taylor from the the Giants, we have to listen(read) to JLC go on and on about how Vinny lied to him and the media!

VINNY DID AN AWESOME JOB! CONGRATULATE THE MAN!

I love how you try to make me the villain like you do anyone else that shows up on this blog that has a differing opinion or calls you(or Jlc) out on their BS.

Glad to see you just can't get over me!

Get over it, dude! Take some perspective and realize your as much of the problem as anything.

Denial is apparently a river that runs thru the RI Blog!!

Posted by: Purple Haze | July 24, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

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