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Allen fine with Haynesworth's absence at voluntary events

Pro Bowl defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth has not participated in the Redskins' voluntary offseason conditioning program, has skipped this weekend's voluntary minicamp and only plans to attend June's mandatory minicamp, according to two people in the organization familiar with his situation.

Haynesworth is frustrated about the Redskins' plans to use him as a nose tackle in their new 3-4 defense, and the eight-year veteran hopes to be traded during the three-day draft that begins next Thursday. On Saturday, General Manager Bruce Allen said he was not disappointed about Haynesworth doing his own thing because "it's voluntary."

Although this minicamp and the next May 7-9 are voluntary under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement, Coach Mike Shanahan has made it clear that his offseason program definitely is mandatory for players who want to remain with the Redskins. Moreover, Shanahan has said he wants his team leaders to set the tone. Haynesworth, a two-time All-Pro, is considered the Redskins' most talented player on defense and arguably the most physically gifted on their roster.

Presumably, that's why owner Daniel Snyder gave Haynesworth a record $100 million contract that included a then-record $41 million in guaranteed money. Allen acknowledged that the minicamp is "very important for the coaches to get to know these players. It's a new system, and you want to see who's picking it up as quickly as possible."

In addition to Haynesworth, former starting quarterback Jason Campbell and starting weak-side linebacker Rocky McIntosh also are not in camp. Campbell and McIntosh are among a group of players the Redskins might move during the draft.

"We've had some talks with different people who are trying to trade some players," Allen said. "But I don't know what'll happen."

By Jason Reid  |  April 17, 2010; 2:34 PM ET
 
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"Washington Post RI Blogger Regurgitates All Over Many Redskins Fans"

Film at 2:34.

Posted by: RomoShortball | April 17, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Hanesworth is a beast when he is in the game. Suddenly, with him on the field, the Redskins have 2 guys with double digit sack totals. Not all his credit, but more goes to him than all the haters want to give him. Allen/Shanny hopefully do put the "best players on the field" like they said. Albert is the best defensive player on most fields.
If they were to move him anything LESS than a straight up trade for the #2 pick (so that he would be replaced by Suh and in addition ensures that Okung would be there at #4) would not make this team better. Even then, the Skins would only hope the #2 pick ( Suh and the guaranteed 25 to 40 million they would give him) is even close to being the player Albert is.

But, I like what the new guys have done so far. So, we will see.

Posted by: MDterpfan | April 17, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I thought I heard Danny say....
"On to the next one
On to the next one
On to the next one
On to the next one
On to the next one
On to the next one

Hold up, freeze

Somebody bring back the money please".

Big Ben In Burgundy and Black...

Posted by: dmlopez1 | April 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

How many times does Jason Reid have to say this...are we stupid or something?
He has been reporting the same story over and over and over...c'mon...give the fans some NEW news, PLEASE !!!

Posted by: double50 | April 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

This team will never be a consistent winner until ALL of the Snyder/ Cerrato mistakes are purged from its roster. This includes fatty. His signing will go down in the annals of NFL free agency as the worst mistake ever. Get rid of him for whatever the team can. That goes for anybody else who won't get with the program. Then and only then will this franchise have a shot at respectability.

Posted by: pjente | April 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"From the absurdly front-loaded nature of Haynesworth's deal, to the scouting reports which suggested he wasn't a player who could be trusted with such a landscape-changing contract, there is very little sympathy in league circles for Washington's self-inflicted problems."--REDSKIN INSIDER


What a load of Krakatoa! "Can 't be trusted...?" Not mature.

Hey he bought himself a 200-MPH speed boat, didn't he? If that doesn't burp "MATURITY" at you, you ain't paying attention.

I personally blame the Media, Obama's health care, League-Source, Maurice "Rocket" Richard, and Fat Al's Momma.

Posted by: TheCork | April 17, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Well this is an interesting new spin on the Haynesworth stuff. No, on second thought, it's the same old spin. Broken record, Jason. Let it go. Get a life. Or, at least, get a story.

Posted by: League-Source | April 17, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I like what the new guys have done so far. So, we will see.

Posted by: MDterpfan

Could you be more specific...

Was it trading away a second rounder? Signing Artis Hicks? That guy Peters? Ticking off or trying to trade away Haynesworth, Campbell, MacIntosh, Rogers, Coleman, Landry? Bringing in two elderly RBs to play Canasta with Portis?

Or putting a future Hall of Fame QB behind a current Hall of Shame Oline?

Was it trying to make a sow's ear 3-4 out of a silk purse 4-3?

Look, ALL things could change for the logical and sensible god as the draft roars in, but "so far?" To my mind, "It's so bad."

Posted by: TheCork | April 17, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

When I grow up I want to be a reporter just like Jason...and get payed for repeating stories over and over and over...

Posted by: double50 | April 17, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is frustrated about the Redskins' plans to use him as a nose tackle in their new 3-4 defense, and the eight-year veteran hopes to be traded during the three-day draft that begins next Thursday.///

I would love to see some quotes from anybody that prove this is true, or even prove that it is somebody other than Wapo pers that are saying this.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 17, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Wash, rinse, repeat...

Posted by: jandlml | April 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Well this is an interesting new spin on the Haynesworth stuff. No, on second thought, it's the same old spin. Broken record, Jason. Let it go. Get a life. Or, at least, get a story.

Posted by: League-Source |

Come on league, blow the doors off! You evidently believe covering the Redskins is the proverbial day at the beach, that the team is a font of information, particularly for its old pals the WaPo.

You evidently think it's just laziness on WaPo writers parts for not calling up Shanny or Bruce or Danny and merely asking them "Hey fellas, what are you going to do? Clue me in. I got a story to write."

LOTS of sports and other writers start their careers by Lou Gerhig-ing the Wally Pip who has the job now.

Instead, you are just repeating yourself constantly, (as are the other Bloggas,) and saying Ooooh, this Jason stinks, like the last Jason stunk...

So Do it Yourself.

Or stop sounding like a broken record.

Posted by: TheCork | April 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth only will attend mandatory Redskins minicamp"

Where will the rest of the team be?

Posted by: daggar | April 17, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

J. Reid is such a clown. Start reporting some insider nuggets that are interesting and carry some weight. Haynesworth has already been paid 32 MILLION! I don’t care who you are, that is a ton of money and it would take at least a first round pick for Snyder to sacrifice that kind of money, and that’s not going to happen. I guarantee, no matter how much authority Shanahan has, he would have to be king salesman to convince Snyder that throwing away 32 MILLION DOLLARS is a good idea. J. Reid works at the prestigious Washington Post and can’t figure out that Money trumps everything in this world. Start reporting something that has a better chance than 10% of happening or back it up with facts! What you are doing is called SPECULATION NOT REPORTING.

Posted by: Michael_ASU | April 17, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Come on league, blow the doors off! You evidently believe covering the Redskins is the proverbial day at the beach, that the team is a font of information, particularly for its old pals the WaPo.

You evidently think it's just laziness on WaPo writers parts for not calling up Shanny or Bruce or Danny and merely asking them "Hey fellas, what are you going to do? Clue me in. I got a story to write."

LOTS of sports and other writers start their careers by Lou Gerhig-ing the Wally Pip who has the job now.

Instead, you are just repeating yourself constantly, (as are the other Bloggas,) and saying Ooooh, this Jason stinks, like the last Jason stunk...

So Do it Yourself.

Or stop sounding like a broken record.


Posted by: TheCork | April 17, 2010 3:16 PM
===========================================

OR, I should stick with reading from out of town sources, where I get REAL information.

Posted by: double50 | April 17, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I read that Jerry Jones did not offer a public opinion on Haynesworth staying with the Redskins and that the subject was not brought up in a recent interview. What could it all mean!?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 17, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

So what have we learned/affirmed today...

CP's blurred vision may not be concussion related

Zorn is a class act, but not a head coach

AH is still a jerk

can't wait for what tomorrow brings

hurry up draft!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 17, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

breaking news

this just in

wait for it

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I would love to see some quotes from anybody that prove this is true, or even prove that it is somebody other than Wapo pers that are saying this.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

indeed. co-sign.

i don't think anybody knows squat 'til at least draft day.

as moe says, leave Albert be.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 17, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone actually heard Haynesworth express frustration about his new role?

Posted by: rickyroge | April 17, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

do a google new search and this is typical of what you get

Due to his frustration with a potential move to nose tackle, Albert Haynesworth is reportedly hoping to be traded during the NFL Draft.

The Washington Post cites "two people in the organization familiar with his situation." Haynesworth is skipping voluntary minicamp this weekend and will only report to mandatory minicamp in June. Despite Mike Shanahan's comments to the contrary, we fully expect him to be available for the right price next week. The Titans, Lions, and Rams are the most likely trade partners.
Source: Washington Post

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

This story has been beaten to death. People are jumping on Rocky MacIntosh, but his current salary is tip money for Fat Albert and he'd be at voluntary mini-camps if he was paid market value.

Posted by: randysbailin | April 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"Washington Post RI Blogger Regurgitates All Over Many Redskins Fans"

Is the weekend webbie referring to MEEEE???

Disgust towards the US government does NOT mean I don't love America. Snyder has torn down this once great team in the exact same way that Eisner tore down Disney- by reducing it to a souldead piece of commodity. It's not a Masonic Jewish conspiracy, to reduce everything to a well-oiled fascist machine where the profits flow straight and smoothly to the Elites pockets, now is it?? F*** the Disneyfication of the NFL and America..But, I love them Skins, anyway..

The Skins will probably get more trade value DURING next weekend's feeding frenzy...

Posted by: frak | April 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone actually heard Haynesworth express frustration about his new role?

Posted by: rickyroge | April 17, 2010 3:54 PM

Depends on how you define his new role. If it involves some position on the line, no. If it relates to being a teammate, attending off season activities, etc., yes.

Posted by: League-Source | April 17, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

People are jumping on Rocky MacIntosh, but his current salary is tip money for Fat Albert and he'd be at voluntary mini-camps if he was paid market value.

Posted by: randysbailin | April 17, 2010 4:00 PM

Not sure how you see "market value" but the 'Skins offered to pay him more than any other team in the league was willing to pay him. That sounds like market value to me, or a little more.

Posted by: League-Source | April 17, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

In the days following the colossal McNabb trade, NFL.com's Jason La Canfora, The Washington Post 's Jason Reid, and ESPN's John Clayton were among the first to break the news that Haynesworth was available.

However, ESPN's Adam Schefter, who is close to Shanahan, issued a report that contradicted this.

"Despite multiple reports that the Washington Redskins are determined to trade defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, a high-ranking Redskins source insisted the team is not," Schefter's report said, "The source said Haynesworth is, and will continue to be, the Redskins' starting nose tackle."

This report led NBCSports' ProFootballTalk.com writer Mike Florio to speculate that the wording of the Schefter report was simply an "effort by the Redskins to get under Haynesworth's skin." Specifically, he considered the Redskins source's reference to Haynesworth as the "starting nose tackle" as a reminder to Haynesworth that what Shanahan says, goes.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 17, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The Lions are a much more logical trading partner. Haynesworth would be playing for his old defensive coordinator and would be back alongside defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch. The risk of Haynesworth conflicting with the coaching staff is low, as Haynesworth has a good relationship with Schwartz.

Trading a second-or-third round pick for Haynesworth would be a great bargain for the Lions as well. Trading for Haynesworth is a better idea for Detroit than drafting Suh or McCoy, because Haynesworth has the same physical skills they do, but he is already familiar with Schwartz's defense.

In addition to providing the Lions with a physically dominant defensive tackle who has played in Schwartz's defensive system before, it also allows the Lions to select a tackle with the No. 2 pick in the draft, thus protecting franchise quarterback Matthew Stafford and giving the Lions a better chance to win.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 17, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Folks, he reports the same thing over and over because there is no other news. What do you expect this time of year? fat Albert needs to be gone. He is a worthless piece of crap. $100 million and HE'S going to dictate where he plays? He is not even the most valuable lineman on the team as he is not on the field often enough to be effective. Modern sports and athletes are getting riduculous. Those who would call me a hater are dupes who continue to pay huge amounts of money to support spoiled brats.

Posted by: TJDemo | April 17, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

C'mon. Give J Reid a break. He has to report mundane stuff because there is NOTHING happening right now. Everything is going to be pretty quiet until next weekend.

Posted by: heyjoe728 | April 17, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I've never posted here, but I just read on ES that Jason Reid said no team would give up a second rounder for Haynesworth and that the skins would be happy to get a 3rd. That is ridiculous! Haynesworth is the best defensive player in the league. I would not be happy without getting back a top 10 pick for him. Not to mention that we have alreayd paid him 32 mil and his annual salaries for the next few years are peanuts. Reid is an idiot and a hater!

Posted by: lukebutler | April 17, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

C'mon. Give J Reid a break. He has to report mundane stuff because there is NOTHING happening right now. Everything is going to be pretty quiet until next weekend.

Posted by: heyjoe728 | April 17, 2010 4:27 PM

while i opine that the WaPo staff is using Haynesworth to drum up hits, i can't say i blame them.

having said that, what you say is true.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 17, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

So the best case AH scenario is the Lions trade second round pick for Al and take Okung with the #2 pick.

We would then probably take Trent Williams at #4.

Then who would we take at #34?

Javid Best, Nate Allen, Linval Joseph, Colt McCoy, Cam Thomas, Jon Asamoah

could all be possibilities

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 17, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert is the best defensive player in the league and I am the King of Arabia. A player on the Texans , upon hearing that the Redksins singed FA, described how he would play:play a few plays, act hurt, take himself out, miracle recovery, back in, then repeat. In other words, just the way he bahved all last season. Get him out of here.

Posted by: TJDemo | April 17, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lukebutler | April 17, 2010 4:31 PM

How is Reid a hater and/or an idiot. I cant fathom why some of you dont understand that when you work for a newspaper, especially a reputable one like the Post you just cant post whatever you want. PFT can print whatever rumor they want. Reid is reporting what the skins sources want him to. If he was wrong you would hear denials from Allen and Shanahan. The only "denial" that was issued came from Shanahan's puppet Schefter.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 17, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

fwiw

1067thefandc RT @Russellmania09: Just told by a #NFL Source that the #Redskins are still one team alive 4 former #Cowboys LT Flozell Adams, but nothing until AFTER Draft!
10 minutes ago from web

Posted by: TWISI | April 17, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah...Is this all we have?
Allen has no choice on what AH does right now with the camp thing. When camp is mandatory and he's not there then it's an issue. Until then get over it and what else do we have?

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 17, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know whether Haynesworth is practicing with the team today? It would be nice to get an updated post on this.

Posted by: League-Source | April 17, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Who's Alice Haynesworth?

Posted by: 21stCenturyCaveman | April 17, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

just to prove something happened today despite AH not being there...

http://blog.redskins.com/2010/04/17/minicamp-day-2-in-photo-form/#continued

Posted by: nobody1000 | April 17, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

NFL Network has Riggins ahead of Earl Campbell of one of the best power back of all time...

Hmmm...

Posted by: rickyroge | April 17, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Flozell

Posted by: dmlopez1 | April 17, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb needs a Hotel in DC.

Posted by: dmlopez1 | April 17, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

KingJoffeJoffer: I explained in my post why he is a hater AND an idiot. Reid is definitely not reporting what the Skins want him to. The Post has a horrible relationship with the team, ever since JLC started this blog. Reid's reporting is just like PFT; it's not based on any sources. The Skins aren't going to issue a denial every time some idiot speculates about what they might be thinking!

Posted by: lukebutler | April 17, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

c'mon...give the fans some NEW news, PLEASE !!!
Posted by: double50


Hey Double50!
Would love to know how you decided upon your pseudonym.
By the way it is either:
"something new" or "some news"
but incorrect to say "some new news"

Good day!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 17, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter just put this up on Twitter:

Adam_Schefter RT @bgizle: haynesworth considered a big trade? ... I will tell you what two Redskins people told me: "He is NOT getting traded."

Posted by: ddrcoaster | April 17, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Keep fatty. Make him play where we want him. If he refuses or slacks sit his ass on the bench. Then open a stand charging 5 bucks to allow fans to throw sh*t at him. Snyder will make some of the money back that way.

Posted by: Rahtard | April 17, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Keep fatty. Make him play where we want him. If he refuses or slacks sit his ass on the bench. Then open a stand charging 5 bucks to allow fans to throw sh*t at him. Snyder will make some of the money back that way.

Posted by: Rahtard | April 17, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Keep fatty. Make him play where we want him. If he refuses or slacks sit his ass on the bench. Then open a stand charging 5 bucks to allow fans to throw sh*t at him. Snyder will make some of the money back that way.

Posted by: Rahtard | April 17, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

OR, I should stick with reading from out of town sources, where I get REAL information.

Posted by: double50

Thanks for helping me make my point. The Redskins declared war on the WaPo and some electronic media in DC years ago, so of course they are more cooperative with other outlets.

But even their own Flackatorium at Redskins.Com somehow missed the fact that the Taylor locker will only be available to Club Level patrons on gameday. The Post dug that out.

Meanwhile, Redskins.Com was ALL OVER a story about how the Gibbs Foundation was honoring...lesse, I have it in my notes here somewhere, oh yes Daniel Snyder. Now THAT's fine reporting.

We kid Redskins.com, bless their pea-pickin' hearts, there's a recession on and an income is nice, but anyone who gives a shiite about a free flow of info should be backing the Post here, not acting like robots for media manipulators and info controllers.

Snyder would probably love it if the Post acted like the Moony paper and just stopped reporting sports.

Posted by: TheCork | April 17, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Albert Haynesworth have seen the classless way the Skins and some unintelligent fans treated Jason Campbell, unfortunately, he has formed a negative opinion about the Skins organization. To even make it sweeter, he has quite a few Snyder's money, why would he care? Don't get me wrong guys, I'm a die hard Skins fan, I bleed Burgundy and Gold even when Snyder ran me out of business by buying Landover Mall, and shutting it down, I still pledge my allegiance to the Burgundy and Gold but, this organization should learn to respect its employees and treat them with dignity; everyone deserves a little dignity. Never publicly assassinate your underachievers, all quarterbacks or any skill professional are not created equal but some find greatness by virtue of a solid system.

Posted by: abxinc | April 17, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Only people with no management experience would stand up for Haynesworth. Even if he has talent, he has no class and can not be trusted. At this point, to want a trade after collecting about 50 million dollars, shows what a thief and sissy he is. I know he is keeping it real, sticking it to the man. The coach cant trust that he will come in, in shape and give his best to the team either as NT or DT. He is a fat, lazy, always hurt and tired football player. He is a disgrace to his race. Thats right hes acting like a DIVA ala, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, and Deion Sanders. Guys with talent who dont always give you their all but certainly wants all the money and attention. Snyder made a mistake in paying him the money, and he as a guy with no character had no problem taking it. He just has a problem getting in shape and playing where he is most needed. Screw him and let his sorry ass off the team. Bite the bullet. Or if Snyder wants, sit his ass for 3 seasons and see if anyone wants him any more than they want him now. Let him carry the water barrel and hand out cups to the real players on the team. P.O.S. Yeah I hate him because I dont make 100 million dollars, and I do my J.O.B.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

abxinc- You have a point in the classless way in which Washington management in the past have treated coaches and players. It is abominable and I would never work for the organization just for those reasons. But, if you come here knowing what goes on here and take the money, you have no excuses for being a classless P.O.S. Haynesworth is known throughout the league as a person with no character. When he signed the contract you could hear the response across the league. And now, no one is stepping up to try to get him, even at a deep,deep discount. So, don't blame the Skins management for this problem, it is a self inflicted wound by fat Albert.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

He is a disgrace to his race.
Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 6:28 PM

Dude, race has nothing to do with Albert Haynesworth's actions. He is not the first "black sheep" of NFL, there are quite a lot of opposite race to Hayneswoths',that have similar character traits; after all, Haynesworth is still playing by the rules. |

Posted by: abxinc | April 17, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

since the skins are such fools

how about AH for Antonio Dixon

any takers.

eagles rule-skins drool

Posted by: eaglesrule | April 17, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

The other question I have is why are we changing the defense. A good coach should adjust to the players we have. For years we have changed personnel to fit the coach and coaches to fit the personnel. We have an above average defense, why mess with it this year. Fat Albert is a joke, but in the old defense he was serviceable. Now we have created a problem where there wasnt one before. It affects everyone on defense and our draft needs to get players to play in the 3-4. Schotttenheimer, Spurrier, Gibbs,and Zorn each changed our system, and none of them lasted long enough to improve our team. I have confidence in Shanahan, but it seems to me that working on the offense and maintaining the defense would be the logical way to improve the Skins.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

abxinc-I explained that I felt it was a character flaw and did not mention rule violations. I do feel it should be a rule violation to refuse to play where the coach feels you should play and do the team the most good. As for race, I do feel there are DIVA's of a certain race that that seen ti feel as if they are owed something or seem to suggest that they are entitled. High profile low character individuals. At the same time there are players of the same race who put on their uniform and exude character. One is called a professional the other is a loser.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

The other question I have is why are we changing the defense. A good coach should adjust to the players we have. For years we have changed personnel to fit the coach and coaches to fit the personnel. We have an above average defense, why mess with it this year. Fat Albert is a joke, but in the old defense he was serviceable. Now we have created a problem where there wasnt one before. It affects everyone on defense and our draft needs to get players to play in the 3-4. Schotttenheimer, Spurrier, Gibbs,and Zorn each changed our system, and none of them lasted long enough to improve our team. I have confidence in Shanahan, but it seems to me that working on the offense and maintaining the defense would be the logical way to improve the Skins.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 6:50 PM


Dude, now you are contradicting yourself. You've just had an explosion of emotions in your prior blog concerning Haynesworth. If you truly belief what you just wrote in your blog that "A good coach should adjust to the players we have." Well, that's exactly what Haynesworth hope for.

Posted by: abxinc | April 17, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

NFL Network has Riggins ahead of Earl Campbell of one of the best power back of all time...

Hmmm...
Posted by: rickyroge


Riggins was better.
He lasted longer
Was able to be much more productive
for much longer
Was a better blocker
And a better receiver in his earlier years as well.
Riggins was quite remarkable running well up to age 35!
And keep in mind 5 years earlier he skipped a year in the prime of his career!
Riggins was better than Earl Campbell

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 17, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

since the skins are such fools

how about AH for Antonio Dixon

any takers.

eagles rule-skins drool

Posted by: eaglesrule | April 17, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Little boy, go bail your dad out of jail so he can go puke on another off duty cop and a little girl a few years older than you.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 17, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Skins management has definitely been classless, I won't argue that. The way they treated Campbell last season was disgusting and Campbell has every right to not want to have anything else to do with this team.

However, Haynesworth has been nothing but disrespectful to this team. Whether it's faking an injury because he's too fat and out of shape to play more than 2-3 consecutive plays or not showing up to workouts that he should be expected to participate. This is the exact selfish behavior that has held the Redskins back for so many years.

People want to say that trading for McNabb is just a sign things haven't changed, but to me it proves the exact opposite. If Cerrato were still here, TO would already have a multi-million dollar contract with the Redskins. Instead, they trade for a qb that has so much class and desire to be better that he was working out with his teammates less than 48 hours after being traded here.

Haynesworth is garbage, talented, but garbage. If he remains here next year, I'm willing to wager he plays in less than 50% of the total defensive plays next season because he's winded......errrr.....injured.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 17, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

If I'm the Lions, the only trade I accept from the Skins is the Skins 4th overall pick plus Haynesworth for the Lions 2nd overall pick and maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick. The Lions could then pair Haynesworth with either Suh or McCoy and still draft a very good offensive tackle early in the 2nd round.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 17, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Shanny and Allen are determined enough.... have been around the block enough times that they will bench AH, Suspend AH whatever they can do, resulting in the DC fan base and national shows like CBS, Fox, ESPN, NFL Network will "let AH have it" next season.

Under the heat, would he get his act together then?
Perhaps!! to show everyone they were wrong about him.

Or am I guilty of naivete regarding AH's motivation?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 17, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Abxinc wrote - Dude, now you are contradicting yourself. You've just had an explosion of emotions in your prior blog concerning Haynesworth. If you truly belief what you just wrote in your blog that "A good coach should adjust to the players we have." Well, that's exactly what Haynesworth hope for.

I said Haynesworth is a lazy, fat, thief, loser, DIVA, and many other things. He also has talent, he just does not always use it. And I like our defense over the last 4-5 years and don't wee why we need to change it at this time since it is a proven system, and AH enjoys the DT position. That being said, IF, they do decide to change it, which I wish they wouldn't, it is his DUTY to play where they want him to play. Just as it is the duty of the linebackers to play where they are needed and for the secondary to play in the scheme that they are asked to play. AH is only one person in the organization, it is easier for one person to follow the wants of the coach than for the coach to follow the wants of 43 different players. Fat Alberts wishes, should be to earn the $100 million dollars he is being paid and to be a help to the team instead of a hinderance, whether I like the defensive scheme changes or not. I'm not the coach or the owner, I'm just a fan. Maybe Shanny feels his defensive coaching staff cant properly run a 4-3 defense or maybe he feels that the 3-4 is a better defense. We have had a lot of change, its just hard to see good players put through so many changes and then have a player like AH try to take advantage of the system.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

NFL Network has Riggins ahead of Earl Campbell of one of the best power back of all time...

Hmmm...
Posted by: rickyroge


Riggins was better.
He lasted longer
Was able to be much more productive
for much longer
Was a better blocker
And a better receiver in his earlier years as well.
Riggins was quite remarkable running well up to age 35!
And keep in mind 5 years earlier he skipped a year in the prime of his career!
Riggins was better than Earl Campbell

Posted by: RedskinRay1 |

Wouldn't Jim Brown be #1 on that list?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 17, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't Jim Brown be #1 on that list?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 17, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

He is.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 17, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Come Thursday, I believe the following players will be traded for draft picks:

Haynesworth - 2nd Rd Pick & Conditional Pick in 2011 draft (Prob Tennessee or Detroit)
Campbell - 5th-7th Rd pick in 2010 draft (Carolina, Jacksonville, Buffalo)
Carter - 4th-7th Rd pick in 2010 draft

Posted by: JinxMan | April 17, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

On the Zorn post ... I hate him just a little more today.

He says how tough it was not to quit. What BS. He had millions of reasons to stay. Zorn quits and his bank account is $3-5million lighter. That was a once in a lifetime paycheck for Zorn. He is NEVER going to get another big payday for coaching a team. Not sure what his pay would be without Danny continuing contributions, but I'm guessing Zorn would have taken an 80-90% paycut.

It seems I'm in the minority up here, criticizing Zorn. Zorn made sure he was going to get PAID to leave. I've got no problem with that ... I do have a problem with his saying how hard it was.

So I'll ask, how many of us would walk away from from a $3million a year job because it was hard?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 17, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I hope you're right Jinx.

Haynesworth is addition by subtraction, Campbell deserves to be shipped out after what the Cerrato regime put him through, and Carter won't fit in the new scheme. Just have to hope these guys are better at drafting than Cerrato was.....amazing to me that ESPN actually gave Cerrato a job doing draft analysis. That's like letting Albert Haynesworth teach a fitness program.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 17, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Spent last night at the Shark Tank. Lot a hitting in that game. Sharks trailed FIVE times in that game, 1-0, 2-1, 3-2, 4-3 and 5-4. Held off a 5 on 3 power play late in the 3rd period.

Not sure I've ever seen a game quite like. Scored the tying goal with 30 seconds left, game winner in OT for 6-5 win. Sharks took 30 more shots than the Avs, 52-22. Series is 1-1, the only lead the Sharks have had in the series is on that OT goal.

#1 star ... Team USA's Joe Pavelski.

My voice is a scratchy today, the rest on me is working just fine!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 17, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

On the Zorn post ... I hate him just a little more today.
He says how tough it was not to quit. What BS. He had millions of reasons to stay. Zorn quits and his bank account is $3-5million lighter.
Posted by: zcezcest1
____________________________________________
Now, now, I can imagine if you or I were in a VERY public job, you and I would wish we could just quit and not experience the public castration that Jim Zorn experienced. He was a fiery competitor as an NFL QB, and no doubt wanted to succeed.
I imagine there were many days he dragged himself to Redskin Park, only because he was determined Danny was going to have to pay him!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 17, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

No Zorn apologist here, was just saying, how humiliating it was for Zorn:
Being reduced to a lame duck coach for over 1/2 a year.

And his players not respecting him, the media not respecting him, the fans not respecting him.

Imagine having to be under Vinny.
Knowing Vinny hired you, yet wanted to get rid of you, having to see him 7 days a week? Wow!!

If Danny would have offered him the $, Zorn would have been out of there in a heart-beat.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 17, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

since the skins are such fools

how about AH for Antonio Dixon

any takers.

eagles rule-skins drool

Posted by: eaglesrule | April 17, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Little boy, go bail your dad out of jail so he can go puke on another off duty cop and a little girl a few years older than you.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 17, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

-----------------------------------

real intelligent!

is this how all skins fans talk?

It's fools like this that make me proud to be an eagles fan

check out our forums- at least we make sense

see ya on monday night

eagles rule-skins drool

Posted by: eaglesrule | April 17, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else bothered by the fact that these guys are earning millions of dollars doing something they enjoy doing and most of us won't see that amount of money in our lifetime. I know that there is a business side to the game and players have to get the money that they can since their contracts aren't guaranteed the same way as other professional sports and their careers can end on a whim, but whatever happened to fulfilling the terms of a contract?

Posted by: JinxMan | April 17, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the Caps?

hack-hack-cough-choke!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 17, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

No, I'm more bothered by the ones that sit on their asses in their luxury boxes and whose job it is to collect money from the fans and dole out a small percentage to the players who the fans come to watch.

Not bothered by the guys risking their careers every Sunday, really.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 17, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I hope Shanny realizes that the same players (Rogers, Fletcher, Landry) that dropped interceptions in the 4-3 will continue dropping interceptions in the 3-4. Getting less pass rush (with Haynesworth gone Orakpo will be less effective rushing from the LB position) won't create more turnovers.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 17, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

No Zorn apologist here, was just saying, how humiliating it was for Zorn:
Being reduced to a lame duck coach for over 1/2 a year.

And his players not respecting him, the media not respecting him, the fans not respecting him.

Imagine having to be under Vinny.
Knowing Vinny hired you, yet wanted to get rid of you, having to see him 7 days a week? Wow!!

If Danny would have offered him the $, Zorn would have been out of there in a heart-beat.

Posted by: RedskinRay1

And that's the rub. IFFFFFF Danny had offered him the $$$.

Zorn had millions of reasons not to leave. I HATE that he seemed to skip that point and complained about how hard things were for him HATE IT. HATE IT. For those 10 weeks or so of sticking it out, Zorn collected $4million and change. Mind you, a big chunk of that humiliation was due to Zorn's own ineptness.

We have a person running for Senate here in Cali who got fired as CEO from HP. Did a bad job as CEO -- deserved to get axed -- and complained about how she had been treated -- while getting $40million to leave. Can't stand it when people complain about hard things were when they were inept and still got huge paydays.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 17, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm.

Allen is publicly officially "fine" with AH not being at these camps.

Well there you have it.

If the GM is "fine" with it, can all you tight-ar$ed haters stop crucifying AH for not being there?

Will JReid actually take this as cold water on the trade rumors?

Doubt it.

In JReid's universe when "unnamed sources" named Jason laCanfora say AH will get traded, then everyone has to pay attention to it. When guy like Schwartz and GM Bruce Allen pour cold water on it, then it's all a smokescreen that we shouldn't pay attention to.

Posted by: p1funk | April 17, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

real intelligent!

is this how all skins fans talk?

It's fools like this that make me proud to be an eagles fan

check out our forums- at least we make sense

see ya on monday night

eagles rule-skins drool


Posted by: eaglesrule | April 17, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't bother going to Eagles forums for one main reason......I'm not an Eagles fan. Takes a special kind of idiot to go to another team's message board and post something, especially when it ends with an adolescent statement like eagles rule-skins drool. But using intelligence and Eagles fan in the same sentence isn't something anyone will do with any regularity.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 17, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

"it is his DUTY to play where they want him to"
Posted by: 1bmffwb | April 17, 2010 7:38 PM


1bmffwb, Haynesworth already indicated, through an interview, that he will do whatever coach Haslett ask him to do, however;some don't really understand Haynesworth's frustration with 3/4; he indicated his height is a disadvantage and may compromise the position since most successful NT are much shorter, but Haslett is not buying that. I belief coach Haslett will simply move Haynesworth around the Line, well, if he is still here.I hope he is.

Posted by: abxinc | April 17, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

check out our forums- at least we make sense
see ya on monday night
eagles rule-skins drool
Posted by: eaglesrule | April 17, 2010 8:35PM

Dude, with respect to our given right "freedom of speech" I respect your opinion but, aren't you a bit trespassing? Or the Eagles blog is so substandard that you have to sneak into an elite forum? One more thing, you don't really want to "see ya Monday night" why? Your best player is now a Skin!

Posted by: abxinc | April 17, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

May as well be fine, 'cause HAYNESWORTH ain't comin'.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 17, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I want to see Dan Snyder give Haynesworth the L. Coles treatment. I don't know if you all remember this, but when Coles started acting disruptive prior to him being traded, Snyder sent him a plasma TV. When Snyder was asked about why he sent him a TV, it was said that Snyder said that that was the only way Coles was ever going to see the field again. You wanna send a message about who's boss, bench is behind and don't let him go ANYWHERE! You already paid him, it's your right as the owner. If we can't trade him, and he becomes disruptive, put him out to pasture.

Posted by: alwaysactingafool | April 17, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Man, that Caps game rawked, heheheh. Glad I got that extra satellite package, man...GO CAPS!!

Posted by: frak | April 17, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

ESPN:Mosley

Constantine from London wonders if the Giants might be interested in Albert Haynesworth: Big BIG fan of the blog, read it EVERYDAY! Huge Giants fan from the UK and would like your opinion on something. Reportedly the Redskins want a second-round pick for Haynesworth now that they've paid his bonus. With the Giants being interested in him during free agency last year, would they spend a second on him? I think they should. We'll cover our most pressing need (MLB) in the first round, and since getting Rolle and Grant in free agency, we need a big defensive tackle -- especially as Jay Alford is coming off a torn ACL. Your thoughts?

Mosley: First of all, love your use of the CAPS button. Second, I'm afraid the Donovan McNabb trade has skewed the way we look at everything in the Beast. Now it seems possible that a team might trade a former All-Pro defensive tackle to a division rival for a second-round pick. And by the way, I have not seen a report with anything as specific as what you're suggesting. I've written that I think the Redskins might settle for a second-rounder for Haynesworth, but that's more of a gut feeling. And despite Mike Shanahan's apparent disgust with Haynesworth, I don't think he wants him playing for the Giants. I think he would immediately make the Giants better on the defensive line. If you're Giants general manager Jerry Reese, you make that deal in a heartbeat.

Posted by: abxinc | April 17, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the Caps?

hack-hack-cough-choke!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 17, 2010 8:46 PM

So, how do you feel now? You come up on a Redskins blog to call the Caps chokers before they come back and win the game in OT? How are they chokers?

Posted by: League-Source | April 17, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Watching the Braves get no hit tonight was like watching zornskins all over again. Just no offense at all. Almost as exciting as this endless Mets Cards debacle.

Posted by: will_ga | April 17, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse


What's up with the Caps?

hack-hack-cough-choke!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 17, 2010 8:46 PM

So, how do you feel now? You come up on a Redskins blog to call the Caps chokers before they come back and win the game in OT? How are they chokers?

Posted by: League-Source | April 17, 2010 10:05 PM |

If you haven't noticed Thinker_ is anything but

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 17, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

i keep seeing that buttersworth got carter@orakpo all those sacks,but he didnt play when orakpo got half his sacks vs. the raiders ,also didnt play in games when carter had most of his sacks.if he didnt suit up for the game,how did he make them better?

Posted by: DLESMonday | April 17, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

idiot you are a NOT a disgrace to your race..just another IDIOT amongst your race. and those players you claim are so-called professional of your race are limited of skill and overrated compared to sanders, owens,moss, haynesworth etc. by the way is a black sheep bad and a white sheep good in this racist society according you your race's definitions and terms?

Posted by: wathu19 | April 17, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Zorn Quote:
"For the life of me, I couldn't bring myself to quit just because things were not going my way."
================
Zorny.. you were a classy guy..but, your Contract stipulated that if you quit, Snyder would owe you nothing..
Instead, because you didnt quit, you are now the highest paid QB coach in the history of the NFL.. (2.5 mil for one year).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 17, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Totally ambivalent about the Haynesworth vehicle-Think he's a great, mayhem reaking, underachieving player, but if he doesn't abide by the new sharif's rules , then can see why they gotta ship him..

Stormcrow is some thicke hardcore for your ignorant selfish right-wing a**, Shrimp Scampi, just sayin'...Background music while you throw molotovs at cops in Athens, OI!! DOWN WITH THE GLOBALISTAS!!!

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

On the Zorn post ... I hate him just a little more today.

He says how tough it was not to quit. What BS. He had millions of reasons to stay. Zorn quits and his bank account is $3-5million lighter. That was a once in a lifetime paycheck for Zorn. He is NEVER going to get another big payday for coaching a team. Not sure what his pay would be without Danny continuing contributions, but I'm guessing Zorn would have taken an 80-90% paycut.

It seems I'm in the minority up here, criticizing Zorn. Zorn made sure he was going to get PAID to leave. I've got no problem with that ... I do have a problem with his saying how hard it was.

So I'll ask, how many of us would walk away from from a $3million a year job because it was hard?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 17, 2010 7:50 PM |

Thank You! Zorn is a punk who refused to stand by his standards and quit when he should have because it would have cost him millions of dollars. That is the only reason he stuck it out and anything different he says is nothing but BS!

F Zorn and the dumb ass philosophy he brought to the Skins. A head coach he never was.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 18, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Why should the off-season be any different than the Regular Season for Haynesworth? He's only on the field about 1/3 of the time then too.

It was moronic to sign him. It would be even more moronic to keep him. Eat whatever salary you have to to get rid of him.

At this point, they'd be lucky to get 4th round pick in return. I say do it anyway.

Posted by: noslok | April 18, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Disgust towards the US government does NOT mean I don't love America. Snyder has torn down this once great team in the exact same way that Eisner tore down Disney- by reducing it to a souldead piece of commodity. It's not a Masonic Jewish conspiracy, to reduce everything to a well-oiled fascist machine where the profits flow straight and smoothly to the Elites pockets, now is it?? F*** the Disneyfication of the NFL and America..But, I love them Skins, anyway..

Posted by: frak | April 17, 2010 4:00 PM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wow. Anti-Semitic much?

It's called America, buddy. Love it or leave it. Democracy, votes for all citizens, freedom, pursuit of property (and happiness). W@hat exactly don't you like about that?

Posted by: hithere1 | April 18, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Anti-Semitic much?

It's called America, buddy. Love it or leave it. Democracy, votes for all citizens, freedom, pursuit of property (and happiness). W@hat exactly don't you like about that?
Posted by: hithere1

People that say "Love it or leave it" are 9 times outta ten reactionary meatpuppets that worship the Warmachine...The problem with your unbridled capitalism, haven't you noticed, is that the most profitable business for the Elites is War, Drugs, all the Satanicks of Selfishness, leading to Arma-Gideon..The Globalists are destroying the world for profit- look at how they destroyed the local farmer's market in Mexico, and forced them to resort to illegal drug production and dealing, and jumping the border to America..There is no compromise with "The Project For A New American Century", they committed 9-11, they commit warcrimes without fear of justice in the Mideast, the Patriot Act is used to target threats to their Global conquest..Warmachine banks should NEVER have control of the US Federal Reserve, criminals anyway, you know they print up whatever money they need to solidify their talon grip on power...I know, it's a better playing field for the Mind then Moslems or Commies can provide, but the surely the human race can do better than gangsterism...NOT!! doomed f***in' species...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth is frustrated about the Redskins' plans to use him as a nose tackle in their new 3-4 defense"

For the 'record $100 million contract that included a then-record $41 million in guaranteed money', I don't think he has a right to be frustrated and actively defiant.

Posted by: redskinsux | April 18, 2010 2:33 AM | Report abuse

WHo wants to bet this is all WaPo fluff and that the only trade that occurs of any sort is Campbell....if that?

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | April 18, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

How about a trade of disgruntles: Haynesworth for NY Giants' Umenyiora?

Posted by: Babar1 | April 18, 2010 3:37 AM | Report abuse

How about a trade of disgruntles: Haynesworth for NY Giants' Umenyiora?

Posted by: Babar1 | April 18, 2010 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Yeah,

I'm glad the Caps came back. Really. I don't like that they split 2 overtime games at home in their first playoff series, though.

I guess I'm counting on the fact that "Montreal 'Has Their Number'"

Still could pull it out, but on the road will not be instilling great confidence in me.

So, I half-way take back the "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" I left for them when they were down 4-2.

I'll reduce it to a simple "Boooooo."

You gotta understand, as Washington fans (Caps, Wizards, Bullets, Redskins) it's easy to get cynical.

And Scampbell, JC wants his name back.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 18, 2010 4:56 AM | Report abuse

I was too stunned to boo when they got their sticks shoved up their happy holes against the Penguins in game 7 last year.

I mean, hard to even call that a game.

To allow a team to do that to you in your own house - a RIVAL, nonetheless - in a game 7, in the playoffs... I mean, makes you question the makeup, the psyche of the team.

So, like I said, glad they won, but will not be surprised when they gag on their own f ups.

And JSCampbell1945 has a point: I'm an idiot.

But even an idiot knows it's a bad way to start the playoffs going into OT twice against an 8th seed and going 1 - 1 at home in the first round. At HOME. So, I hope I addressed your question as to how I feel... I feel ready for the choke at any moment, but I hope to be pleasantly surprised. Seems like they've got the Penguins figured out finally.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 18, 2010 5:15 AM | Report abuse

So, THAT'S how they're chokers. Game 7 last year. Penguins.

I got up to get a hotdog and it was 1-0. I came back to my seat, it was 4-0. It was 5-1 at the end of the second period and Pittsburgh scored to open the third... 6-1.

But, the Caps rallied to close it to 6-2 just before the final buzzer.

Please. "How are they chokers?"
How do you THINK they're chokers? I really hope they prove me wrong. I aint holdin' my breath, though.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 18, 2010 5:25 AM | Report abuse

So, THAT'S how they're chokers. Game 7 last year. Penguins.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 18, 2010 5:25 AM

Oh. This wasn't about last night's game which they won? This was about a game a year ago? You've been holding it in for a year but you couldn't wait any longer so you just had to come up here on a football blog to berate a hockey team? Good timing. Happy anniversary.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 6:34 AM | Report abuse

Man o man, Blogging makes so called Men so brave. would any of you who call players on this or any team dare to call AH "fatty" "fat bastard" to his face!Some of the things y'all call men on this team are so horrible, cold and rude. not one of you would dare stand next to these men and brave the blogging courage you display here. It's OK to evaluate their skill level and have an opinion on this but to call these men some of the things y'all call them would get yo ass kicked almost any where that is not in your protected little Blog space. Think and Blog like a real Man not a JR HS kid.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 6:49 AM | Report abuse

Think and Blog like a real Man not a JR HS kid.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 6:49 AM

You're a chicken sh*t bast*ard. You wouldn't say this stuff to our faces, but you come up here and hide behind a blog to call us chicken sh*t bast^rds. And you call yourself a boyshead coach? Ha, ha, ha.

And for yor information, I once MAILED A LETTER to Jim Zorn telling him that he had no personal integrity because he didn't quit last year. Of course, I put your name and return address on it.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Must have struck a chord

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Think and Blog like a real Man not a JR HS kid.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 6:49 AM

You're a chicken sh*t bast*ard. You wouldn't say this stuff to our faces, but you come up here and hide behind a blog to call us chicken sh*t bast^rds. And you call yourself a boyshead coach? Ha, ha, ha.

The prosecution rests your Honor

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Must have struck a chord

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 7:11 AM

Jim Zorn's gonna come strike your chord when he gets that letter.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Must have struck a chord

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 7:11 AM

Jim Zorn's gonna come strike your chord when he gets that letter.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 7:15 AM |

Just keeps making my case for me....

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse

What about Gaither (sp?) from Baltimore for Big Al? Baltimore wants to trade him and that would certainly help our line and maybe allow us to take one of the DT's that slip to us at 4.

Posted by: potsy536 | April 18, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse


On the Zorn post ... I hate him just a little more today.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 17, 2010 7:50 PM |

Thank You! Zorn is a punk who refused to stand by his standards and quit when he should have because it would have cost him millions of dollars.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 18, 2010 12:01 AM

...........................................

You expect this sort of randomness out of Zeke, but et tu, Curzon? By refusing to quit, by defying Snyder and Vinny's taunts, you think Zorn "refused to stand by his standards"?

Never mind that stuff about "quitters never win and winners never quit." You two think that quitting is the only honorable way out of the Redskins? When the game's going against you, just pull your team off the field and refuse to play any more? By signing a contract and fulfilling it he's "a punk"?

Agree to disagree.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

how many people out there can tell there boss i won't do the job you want me to do?
the anser------NO WORK NO PAY!!!!

Posted by: jjmj345 | April 18, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

What about Gaither (sp?) from Baltimore for Big Al? Baltimore wants to trade him and that would certainly help our line and maybe allow us to take one of the DT's that slip to us at 4.

Posted by: potsy536 | April 18, 2010 7:40 AM

If Haynesworth doesn't want do play in Washington's 3-4, do you think he'd want to play in Baltimore's 3-4?

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Man o man, Blogging makes so called Men so brave. would any of you who call players on this or any team dare to call AH "fatty" "fat bastard" to his face!Some of the things y'all call men on this team are so horrible, cold and rude. not one of you would dare stand next to these men and brave the blogging courage you display here. It's OK to evaluate their skill level and have an opinion on this but to call these men some of the things y'all call them would get yo ass kicked almost any where that is not in your protected little Blog space. Think and Blog like a real Man not a JR HS kid.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 18, 2010 6:49 AM | Report abuse

1. You wouldn't be allowed to get anywhere near Fat Albert's face because he doesn't show up to work nor do I see him out doing any autograph signings, appearances, etc. Too busy driving his yacht around Tennessee for the fans that help pay his salary.

2. When I pay part of his salary by buying season tickets, merchandise, etc, I have the right to complain that my money is being wasted on a fat, out of shape, cancer that never should have been signed in the first place.

3. If you think 37 tackles and 4 sacks is worth the money he was paid last year, then I really hope you are not a coach of boys. Might as well tell them boys to stay home, eat candy, play on the computer, and don't bother practicing, just like your boy Fat Al.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 18, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Allen fine with Haynesworth's absence at voluntary events

Had to double take this article title. Thought it read Allen fine with HAYNESWORTH's voluntary absence at mandatory events. Wow, too much MAKERS MARK.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 18, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

I for one don't want SOUP, ROCK or BIG AL playing for the REDSKINS. Too much opportunity to show their displeasure with missed tackles, blown passes etc. Let's hope these guys move on. If they stay, here's hoping they have true professional class, and play up to their abilities. These guys are human after all. It's asking a lot with all that's gone down here to expect perfection from them at this point.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 18, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I keep trying to find a list of 4-3 teams to determine if the REDSKINS may have a shot at a trade for HAYNESWORTH, but nothing definitive. Anybody have a source that's clear on the subject?

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 18, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I think the only real takers on a trade for him would be Detroit or Tennessee.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 18, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Anybody have a source that's clear on the subject?

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 18, 2010 8:32 AM |

Probably best to leave this one to Bruce Allen. Not sure there's much we can do about it here on RI.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

We will see how slick Bruce Allen is as a GM.
This week could make or break his reputation.
If they do not improve the O line significantly..getting McNabb won`t make much difference. I doubt that there are many QBs in the league that are as tough as Jason..and can withstand as much punishment. McNabb will not have Desean Jackson to throw to! We apparently passed on Jackson to take one of our "wonder" receivers.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | April 18, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

We will see how slick Bruce Allen is as a GM.
This week could make or break his reputation.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | April 18, 2010 9:03 AM

blazerguy234=Dan Snyder? Win now! Reputation is made in a week? Whatever happened to "slow and steady wins the race?"

Hey, if your reputation could be made in a week then Charley Casserly would be in the Hall of Fame for the trade he pulled off sending sending Ricky Williams to New Orleans for their entire draft PLUS picks from their next year's draft. Now there's no team in the league who want Casserly as a GM.

Allen and Shanahan have said repeatedly that they have a multi-year plan. It isn't a one-week plan. Their reputations will depend on the success of their multi-year plan.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Everything is possible. A representative to Congress once said, "Who speaks for the tropical fish??" Any Native American will tell you, St. Francis was right , all animals are psychic ("I've seen the Eagle, the Savage Eye, Comes Right Through The Skyyyyy!!"). My cat, Strong Wind, meows "Good Morning" and our names, occasionally curses, opens our doors with his paws at 3A.M., and is hell on the local ecosystem. Speaks English ..
Albert to Buffalo for a 2nd and a cat to be named later..

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure if the Redskins draft an O-lineman, some of you will complain they should have drafted something else.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 18, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

We will see how slick Bruce Allen is as a GM.
This week could make or break his reputation.
If they do not improve the O line significantly..getting McNabb won`t make much difference. I doubt that there are many QBs in the league that are as tough as Jason..and can withstand as much punishment. McNabb will not have Desean Jackson to throw to! We apparently passed on Jackson to take one of our "wonder" receivers.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | April 18, 2010 9:03 AM
}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
yeah.. we passed on DeSean, TWICE in the same round. Passed on Eddie Royal, too, the 4th fastest player in NFL history to reach 100 career receptions.
Just thought I'd brighten you day. :)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 18, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Well Mel Kiper certainly nailed it, didn't he?

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 18, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

And for the record, I am not anti-semetic, I am Anti-Cimex. I've had Jewish girl friends and best friends..Its the Netanyahus and Eisners of the world that really steam my yarmuka..(I'd have said Snyder, but we don't want any jumpers at the Grateful Dead concert landing on me)..

Glad to hear Portis is better!!

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

we passed on DeSean, TWICE in the same round. Passed on Eddie Royal, too, the 4th fastest player in NFL history to reach 100 career receptions.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 18, 2010 9:51 AM

31 teams in the league passed on these two guys. What's your point?

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

How many of those other teams were actively shopping for and drafting other pass catchers in the early rounds?

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 18, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Not too upset we passed on Eddie Royal, VT guys are usually busts and without Cutler around, Royal didn't look so good.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | April 18, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"Passed on Eddie Royal, too, the 4th fastest player in NFL history to reach 100 career receptions.Posted by: SkinsneedaGM"

You forgot to mention that 91 of those receptions came in Eddie's first year, with Mike Shanahan and Jay Cutler. Last season he started 12 games and caught 37 for 345 yards and zero, count'em, zero TDs.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 18, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"2. When I pay part of his salary by buying season tickets, merchandise, etc, I have the right to complain that my money is being wasted on a fat, out of shape, cancer that never should have been signed in the first place."

You don't need to buy anything -- your right to complain is protected. And the stupider your complaint, the more it goes to show what a great country this is.

However Dan Snyder is happy to accept your money if you feel compelled to give it to him...

Posted by: Samson151 | April 18, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

we passed on DeSean, TWICE in the same round. Passed on Eddie Royal, too, the 4th fastest player in NFL history to reach 100 career receptions.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 18, 2010 9:51 AM

31 teams in the league passed on these two guys. What's your point?

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 10:07 AM
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A Vinny apologist??

Not sure what you're disagreeing with except to disagree? Obviously the Eagles and the Broncos did not pass on these two receivers after the Skins did, for Kelly and Thomas.. (????). No one ever implied nor were any of these 4 receivers ever rated 1st round material, if that is your "31 other teams" reference.
My "point" is pretty clear when you compare the production (stats) the Skins have received from the WRs they opted for, over Jackson and Royal.
We can only hope that McNabb can turn one of these two, under achieving picks, into a "DeSean" production type receiver.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 18, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Fat Albert can keep on stayin away and never come back. Overpaid punk is all is.

Posted by: DCFanatic | April 18, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

"Passed on Eddie Royal, too, the 4th fastest player in NFL history to reach 100 career receptions.Posted by: SkinsneedaGM"

You forgot to mention that 91 of those receptions came in Eddie's first year, with Mike Shanahan and Jay Cutler. Last season he started 12 games and caught 37 for 345 yards and zero, count'em, zero TDs.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 18, 2010 10:16 AM
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which I believe still exceeds the total of Kelly and Thomas combined.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 18, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Orakpo was a rookie in 2009 and while he was transitioning I don't think you can say the #13 overall pick was DEPENDENT upon Haynesworth to have a productive season.

This is a guy with double digit skills on the outside and I expect him to be MORE productive in 2010 with or without Haynesworth.

Posted by: leopard09 | April 18, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"Passed on Eddie Royal, too, the 4th fastest player in NFL history to reach 100 career receptions.Posted by: SkinsneedaGM"

You forgot to mention that 91 of those receptions came in Eddie's first year, with Mike Shanahan and Jay Cutler. Last season he started 12 games and caught 37 for 345 yards and zero, count'em, zero TDs.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 18, 2010 10:16 AM
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which I believe still exceeds the total of Kelly and Thomas combined.
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meaning receptions, not TDs.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 18, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Why don't you ignorant fans quit worrying about the post journalist and squeeze urnutts. There aren't too many original stories going around these days? The stories being written aren't tailored to the 10 or 11 of you knuckleheads that all you do is read and post, read and post, read and post.

Posted by: urnutts | April 18, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Just make the porker play and clog up some running lanes. Maybe his pride will kick in at some point. BUST!

Posted by: ar652 | April 18, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Please produce the quote from Haynesworth or his agent indicating his desire to be traded. In addition, please produce the quote that says that he is not happy about plans to play him at NT.

Posted by: keino83 | April 18, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is a fat, lazy piece of feces.

Posted by: johnfchick1 | April 19, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

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