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R. Thomas Rests as O Line Gets Banged Up

The Redskins rested several players on Tuesday morning with more bumps and bruises flaring up now as the two-a-day training camp grind starts to take its toll.

Offensive guard Randy Thomas was rested with a sore knee. Thomas, who had arthroscopic surgery on the same knee this offseason, "felt like when he tried to really anchor and put a load on it, it was a little bit abrasive so we held him out today," Redskins Coach Jim Zorn said.

There is no timetable on Thomas's return, but Zorn said he did not expect it to be long.
Stephon Heyer left practice after getting his left knee rolled during goal line drills and Zorn called it a "bruise" and said he did not know the extent of the injury or whether Heyer would have an MRI.


Mike Williams was also rested with a groin injury. "He's got a little muscle pull," Zorn said.
Second-year receivers Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly were mostly rested during practice, as well.

With Roydell Williams out after undergoing surgery on his pinkie finger, several wide receivers have increased their workload and "they've got sore legs right now, too, so we held a couple out," Zorn said.

According to Zorn, Williams likely will not be able to run for three weeks and Zorn speculated that the injury would be a four- to six-week setback.

Center Casey Rabach (calf) also did not finish the practice but Zorn did not seem overly concerned with the "muscle aches" across the line.

By Paul Tenorio  |  August 4, 2009; 11:42 AM ET
 
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Fist of all...it's way too early to panic. Hail!

Posted by: Smiley2 | August 4, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

First of all...it's way too early to panic. Hail!

Posted by: Smiley2 | August 4, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

2nd of all...it's way way too early to panic. Hail!

Posted by: Smiley2 | August 4, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

There are those who will moan and groan about the risk of pushing players too hard in preseason and risking injuries. What they don't realize is that it is better to stress test in the preseason and uncover problems than not because if you go into the regular season without having done this it is bound to bite you in the @ss at some point during the season when you are least prepared to handle it. So with Heyer going down there will be time now for Williams to polish his game before it counts wheras if this had happened during the season he would have to be rushed out there butt naked, so to speak.

Posted by: EncinoMan | August 4, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Wednesday AM recap By Ryan O'Halloran on Aug. 4, 2009
Redskins 360

The injuries continue to mount at Redskin Park, particularly on the offensive line where three projected starters were unable to finish practice. The special teams-only practice starts at 2 p.m.

The news and notes:

*RT Stephon Heyer (left knee), C Casey Rabach (left calf) and RT Mike Williams (groin) did not finish practice and RG Randy Thomas (knee) did not participate at all.

Coach Jim Zorn said none of the injuries are believed to be serious. Heyer declined to talk about his injury, which happened during a goal-line play when he got tangled up with FB Mike Sellers.

*DT Albert Haynesworth (left knee) returned after misisng Sunday's second practice and Monday's only workout. He participated in everything. FB Eddie Williams (hamstring) was also back.

*CB Carlos Rogers (calf), DT Anthony Montgomery (knee) and DL J.D. Skolnitsky (hamstring) sat out. Zorn said WR Royell Williams (finger) will be out several weeks.

*Before the full 11 on 11 team work, the offense spent time on quick slant routes.

*RB Anthony Alridge continues to struggle holding onto the football -- he had another fumble.

*The quarterbacks spent time on a sliding drill for recovering bad shotgun snaps and other fumbles.

*S Kareem Moore continues to have a good camp -- two more interceptions.

*Offensive highlight was a blitz pick-up and QB Jason Campbell throwing a bomb down the middle of the field to WR Antwaan Randle El.

Ryan O'Halloran

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 4, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I understand the season hasn't even started and that the preseason hasn't even started.....but Heyer hasn't had a track record of health, neither has Thomas or Samuels and Williams is at best a project. Bridges apparently can't play tackle nearly as well as guard but certainly can't play tackle and guard at the same time and Rhinehart is apparently the invisible man....we have cap room, I hope they are on the phone looking into some available lineman through signings or trades

Posted by: redskinsfanatic1 | August 4, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

One man is hurt?

So....?

Plug in another player.

Let's see how the o-line performs with Rhino/Bridges/E. Williams/Clark/Montegomery/Burley.

If the line is shaky, a younger, hungry player might seize the opportunity and try to make a name for himself.

It's early: let's see what we got.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 4, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wow, and they're just piling up now.

Roydell Williams will be gone soon. Mike Williams will probably be cut as well. Neither of them can afford to miss workouts and hope to earn roster spots.

One name the skins should seriously consider right now: Pete Kendall (did he sign elsewhere?). He could allow Bridges to focus exclusively on RT, which looks mighty shaky not even a week into camp.

Posted by: psps23 | August 4, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

With my medical backround consisting of 4 years in Journalism school, I'm wondering why Roydell Williams "likely will not be able to run for three weeks" following pinky surgery.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 4, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Again, people would play healthier if they were not practicing in 99% humidity.

Build
A
Dome

Posted by: alex35332 | August 4, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I love the mindset of those on here who are screaming for the team to go out and make a trade.....yet will then skewer the FO for the J-Taylor trade.....don't we want to try and avoid making knee jerk reactions, or would people rather just piss and whine about EVERYTHING....I swear some of the people on here would rather be able to claim they were right about something they said on this blog, than the team be good......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 4, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 4, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

It's early: let's see what we got.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Thanks for the logical positivism, Moe, but remember Terrell Suggs' words when whats-his-name was installed out there, "You can't put that guy on me, somebody's going to get hurt!!"

"Jason, what's your insurance company??"
"New York Life, why??"

Posted by: frak | August 4, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

BeantownGreg1,
I think there is a right way and a wrong way to go about everything. Trading two draft picks for Jason Taylor when he really didn't fit the scheme was a bad thing. It was a panic move based on Daniels going down.

Trading an underperforming defensive lineman (Montgomery) for an offensive tackle would be a good move. The team has been waiting on Montgomery to realize his potential and they are still waiting. Not ready to use the B--- word, but the team surely wouldn't be in an awful place without him in the rotation. Yesterday the Panthers' starting defensive tackle went down with an injury and they have very little quality depth. I wouldn't call the Panthers "knee-deep" in quality offensive tackles, but they are in a better place than Washington. I'm thinking Vinny could pry someone with ability away from them in exchange for Montgomery.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 4, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Ok, this is just getting ridiculous now. Are we the worst conditioned team in football or what?

Pretty soon they are not going to have enough guys left to even run 7-on-7's.

How do other teams avoid this nonsense?

Posted by: McMetal | August 4, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday the Panthers' starting defensive tackle went down with an injury and they have very little quality depth. I wouldn't call the Panthers "knee-deep" in quality offensive tackles, but they are in a better place than Washington. I'm thinking Vinny could pry someone with ability away from them in exchange for Montgomery.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 4, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abu
Carolina has only 2 OT's with more than 1 year of experience, Jordan Gross with 7 yr, and Jeff Otah with 2 yr. 2 other OT's have 1 yr...Jonathan Palmer and Geoff Schwartz. Never heard of those two. At OG only Keydrick Vincent(9 yr) and Travelle Wharton(6 yr) have more experience that our old boy Justin Geisinger. Not sure we can get any value for Monty there.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 4, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Ok, this is just getting ridiculous now. Are we the worst conditioned team in football or what?

Pretty soon they are not going to have enough guys left to even run 7-on-7's.

How do other teams avoid this nonsense?

Posted by: McMetal | August 4, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

They don't. All teams experience these types of injuries. That's why they have preseason.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 4, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

lol, about dam time I thought quick slant routes were a stapke of any west oast offense..!!!!!!

*Before the full 11 on 11 team work, the offense spent time on quick slant routes

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | August 4, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

lol, about dam time I thought quick slant routes were a stapke of any west coast offense..!!!!!!

*Before the full 11 on 11 team work, the offense spent time on quick slant routes

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | August 4, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Correct me if I'm wrong. But weren't we all very aware at the end of last season that our line was old and starting to show its wear? Isn't that the reason that there was so much speculation that we were going to draft for a talented OL? Maybe 2? I'm all for giving the guys a chance to get thru the bumps of summer camp and you can't knock em for getting older, they're still around for a reason. but we all knew this was our gig need at the end of last season and here we are now, with damn near every projected starting lineman already having issues healthwise...Our front office can't get out of its own way. Danny wants to win in the worst way and I commend him for his efforts but this crap of not having a real football mind to run things and just sitting back and paying the bills like a good owner is getting old. Next year, either hire somebody qualified to run things and let him or start acquiring what we NEED, not whats gonna wow people and hype your team. I love the Redskins

Posted by: scottmando | August 4, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

BeantownGreg1,
I think there is a right way and a wrong way to go about everything. Trading two draft picks for Jason Taylor when he really didn't fit the scheme was a bad thing. It was a panic move based on Daniels going down.

Trading an underperforming defensive lineman (Montgomery) for an offensive tackle would be a good move. The team has been waiting on Montgomery to realize his potential and they are still waiting. Not ready to use the B--- word, but the team surely wouldn't be in an awful place without him in the rotation. Yesterday the Panthers' starting defensive tackle went down with an injury and they have very little quality depth. I wouldn't call the Panthers "knee-deep" in quality offensive tackles, but they are in a better place than Washington. I'm thinking Vinny could pry someone with ability away from them in exchange for Montgomery.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 4, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse
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You should really be a GM!!! I mean who else could expect to get a player with "ability" for a player that you are labeling as a BUST!!!
Stick to your day job!!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | August 4, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow, and they're just piling up now.

Roydell Williams will be gone soon. Mike Williams will probably be cut as well. Neither of them can afford to miss workouts and hope to earn roster spots.

One name the skins should seriously consider right now: Pete Kendall (did he sign elsewhere?). He could allow Bridges to focus exclusively on RT, which looks mighty shaky not even a week into camp.

Posted by: psps23 | August 4, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse
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Why would you think Mike Williams would be cut?? Based on what? A couple of practices?? And from what I understand has not looked out of place thus far even though the Skins expected some rust!!
And sign Kendall, who was let go because age had gotten the best of him, so that you can have Bridges (who is better at guard than tackle) focus on the position that he struggles at!!
Brilliant!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | August 4, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

What I find funny is that the post just did an article about the lineman going to AZ to train to be in better shape and how they are the healthiest they felt in a long time. So healthy and skinny that they are straining hammies or groins or knees :) I dont put stock in the pre-season but the way I hear things about camp.... we are in for a loooong season and not one game has been played!

Posted by: rvanags | August 4, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

NOT GOOD!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | August 4, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I love the mindset of those on here who are screaming for the team to go out and make a trade.....yet will then skewer the FO for the J-Taylor trade.....don't we want to try and avoid making knee jerk reactions, or would people rather just piss and whine about EVERYTHING....I swear some of the people on here would rather be able to claim they were right about something they said on this blog, than the team be good......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1
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Well said!

Posted by: daghost | August 4, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Why would you think Mike Williams would be cut?? Based on what? A couple of practices?? And from what I understand has not looked out of place thus far even though the Skins expected some rust!!
And sign Kendall, who was let go because age had gotten the best of him, so that you can have Bridges (who is better at guard than tackle) focus on the position that he struggles at!!
Brilliant!!

Posted by: dkidwell61
_________________________

I concur!

Posted by: daghost | August 4, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Jon Runyun (sp?)would look good in the red, black, and yellow.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 4, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Well here we go:
Thomas's knee that was operated on is hurt!
Duh.No sh*t! (His neck injury was career threatining, in case you forgot)

Mike Williams is sore, so is Heyer, and Rabach. Is any of this surprising? Oh, it's only preseason.Yeah right. Save the glass if half full BS. Here it is these guys can't even make it to one week of practices and already the Oline is shot to sh%t.

All I can say is JC better eat his wheaties because the way things are looking now he's going to get smacked in the mouth a whole lot.

This is what happens when dumb(Snyder) and dumber(Cerrato) run a NFL team. They pretty much ignore our most glaring need.
Compare it to a guy who gets rushed to the Emergency room with s gaping bullet wound to his chest, and tells the ER personell, "oh forget my bullet wound, get this splinter out of my thumb".

Talk about the epitome of stupidity.
I'm still wishing it somehow gets better.
The epitome of wishful thinking.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 4, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

SIGN PETE KENDALL!!! YOU CAN ALWAYS CUT HIM IF SOMEONE BETTER STEPS UP!!!

Posted by: BarackObama | August 4, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

WHY DO WE ALL KNOW THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS GOING TO COST US THE SEASON EXCEPT FOR SNYEDERRATO????? ARE THEY THAT STUPID???

Posted by: BarackObama | August 4, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Well here we go:
Thomas's knee that was operated on is hurt!
Duh.No sh*t! (His neck injury was career threatining, in case you forgot)

Mike Williams is sore, so is Heyer, and Rabach. Is any of this surprising? Oh, it's only preseason.Yeah right. Save the glass if half full BS. Here it is these guys can't even make it to one week of practices and already the Oline is shot to sh%t.

All I can say is JC better eat his wheaties because the way things are looking now he's going to get smacked in the mouth a whole lot.

This is what happens when dumb(Snyder) and dumber(Cerrato) run a NFL team. They pretty much ignore our most glaring need.
Compare it to a guy who gets rushed to the Emergency room with s gaping bullet wound to his chest, and tells the ER personell, "oh forget my bullet wound, get this splinter out of my thumb".

Talk about the epitome of stupidity.
I'm still wishing it somehow gets better.
The epitome of wishful thinking.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 4, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

SIGN PETE KENDALL!!! YOU CAN ALWAYS CUT HIM IF SOMEONE BETTER STEPS UP!!!

Posted by: BarackObama | August 4, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse
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I would expect such wisdom from barackobama!! They signed Dockery and cut Kendall! Would you like them to do it again???
Do you think there might be a reason why the Skins cut Kendall and he is still available? Do ya??

Posted by: dkidwell61 | August 4, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Well here we go:
Thomas's knee that was operated on is hurt!
Duh.No sh*t! (His neck injury was career threatining, in case you forgot)

Mike Williams is sore, so is Heyer, and Rabach. Is any of this surprising? Oh, it's only preseason.Yeah right. Save the glass if half full BS. Here it is these guys can't even make it to one week of practices and already the Oline is shot to sh%t.

All I can say is JC better eat his wheaties because the way things are looking now he's going to get smacked in the mouth a whole lot.

This is what happens when dumb(Snyder) and dumber(Cerrato) run a NFL team. They pretty much ignore our most glaring need.
Compare it to a guy who gets rushed to the Emergency room with s gaping bullet wound to his chest, and tells the ER personell, "oh forget my bullet wound, get this splinter out of my thumb".

Talk about the epitome of stupidity.
I'm still wishing it somehow gets better.
The epitome of wishful thinking.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 4, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse
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I guess you are saying that you are the smart one and everyone in the Skins front office are dumb!!??
How do you "pretty much ignore a most glaring need"?? Either you do or you don't!! Let's see, you have a new left guard that is an upgrade, last years starting left tackle, center, right guard and right tackle.
Please tell me the last time you didn't hear about players being sore after the first few days of training camp and when was the last time you saw a player miss a game due to "soreness"!!??
It's called a precaution simple simon!! Talk about the epitome of stupid is right!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | August 4, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

With my medical backround consisting of 4 years in Journalism school, I'm wondering why Roydell Williams "likely will not be able to run for three weeks" following pinky surgery.
Posted by: 4-12

Yo, ya don't think maybe he's talkin' 'bout the Williams with the groin injury? Mike, not Roydell.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | August 4, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

With my medical backround consisting of 4 years in Journalism school, I'm wondering why Roydell Williams "likely will not be able to run for three weeks" following pinky surgery.
Posted by: 4-12

Yo, ya don't think maybe he's talkin' 'bout the Williams with the groin injury? Mike, not Roydell.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | August 4, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

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