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Rain plays havoc with Redskins practice schedule

Rainy days like this one have been driving Redskins coaches nuts for several years.

The team's lack of an indoor facility limits the Redskins' practice options. But Mike Shanahan is determined to get something out of the day. He's tweaked the practice schedule, and players and coaches will head to an off-site indoor facility to hold a walk-through later today.

It's still not a full-blown practice that coaches would prefer, but it's tough to locate an indoor facility with artificial turf in the area, particularly at Redskins Park.

By Rick Maese  | September 30, 2010; 8:21 AM ET
 
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PHILADELPHIA'S QUARTERBACK CONTROVERSY SPILLING INTO WASHINGTON

Washington Redskins fans will see a quarterback controversy in Philadelphia this weekend, but this is a controversy with a difference. While Eagles fans are naturally interested in seeing who should be their starting quarterback for the remainder of the season, the competition for the job will likely have longer lasting ramifications for the nation's capital city franchise.

Redskins Outsiders are saying that Michael Vick believes he is auditioning for the Redskins starting quarterback position this weekend -- and thus is working out a set of plays that are very deliberately designed to showcase his unique skill set to the Redskins ownership group and front office -- even to the point where Vick’s agents will steer him over to the Washington sideline before the start of Sunday’s game for a quick handshake and conversation with Redskins principal owner Dan Snyder.

Current Redskin quarterback Donovan McNabb was traded from Philadelphia to Washington in the off-season with only one year left in his current contract.

With McNabb still unsigned to a contract extension going into week 4 of the regular season, many expect him to test the free agent market in the coming off-season and eventually move along to Minnesota to replace Brett Favre, who is expected the again retire at the end of the season, and this time, maybe even for good.

Meanwhile, Vick is also playing on the last year of his current contract -- and also unlikely to be signed to a contract extension in Philadelphia -- especially since Eagles coach Andy Reid still appears keen on having his opening day quarterback, Kevin Kolb, move back up into the Eagles starting position once Vick’s current “hot hand” cools off.

However, with Vick's recent and surprising run of success as the Eagles starter -- and the related increase in his market value -- some analysts believe he may be pricing himself out of a new contract in Philadelphia, since the Eagles probably would not pay to keep two starting-caliber quarterbacks on its roster.

Meanwhile, the Redskins owner has never been shy about overpaying for big name but aging veterans -- if only to sell jerseys and other team merchandise.

Likewise, Vick’s need for a Snyder-sized payday is well known, especially since a series of bad business decisions and an extended prison stay have left Vick deeply in debt.

Posted by: Vic1 | September 30, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Gee I thought Football was played outdoors in the elements..what's wrong with taking the guys outside and dealing with some adversity.

I don't think that it would be a bad thing at all....

Posted by: macpaint | September 30, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Gee I thought Football was played outdoors in the elements..what's wrong with taking the guys outside and dealing with some adversity.

I don't think that it would be a bad thing at all....

Posted by: macpaint | September 30, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Damn...we gotta address this lack of an indoor facility, can't go into a huge division matchup without a critcal practice day...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas = Bad route running NERD!!!

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Gee I thought Football was played outdoors in the elements..what's wrong with taking the guys outside and dealing with some adversity.

I don't think that it would be a bad thing at all....

Posted by: macpaint | September 30, 2010 8:45 AM


I'm sure you'd change your tune if we lost McNabb for the year to a knee injury because we were practicing in monsoon-like conditions. Use come common sense, hoss...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

have decided that Roydell Williams, Joey Galloway and Anthony Armstrong are better than DT11.

and p1, how has that worked out?

the offense is sputtering having scored a TD or less in 2 of the 3 games, and the guys that MS chose, are having ZERO impact on the games....

so you tell me, given that AA/JG, and RW haven't given the team any productivity, or a viable 2nd option, why HASN'T MS given DT a shot??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse


So, you are saying that the problem is the Shannys. You are saying that they've screwed the pooch with this passing game, their talent evaluation, and their personnel decisions.

Basically, they've pulled a "Zorn"?

Posted by: p1funk | September 30, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Unbelievable that a billionaire like Snyder, who is willing to spend whatever it takes on players, would skimp on practice locations. This is clearly an issue that Vinny chose not to address, but Bruce Allen needs to go to Danny with hat in hand and ask for a true indoor facility. I don't care if they use it for the indoor soccer league in the offsesason, but this is something the Redskins will need for the regular season. The team could practice in the elements, but why risk injury to players on a slick field?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

I bet Brandon Banks vick would be pretty tough to tackle in the rain. ball security might be an issue, but its an issue with Vick too. Dude still holds the thing like hes brining home a loaf of bread, reid must hate that.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 30, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

the offense is sputtering having scored a TD or less in 2 of the 3 games, and the guys that MS chose, are having ZERO impact on the games....

so you tell me, given that AA/JG, and RW haven't given the team any productivity, or a viable 2nd option, why HASN'T MS given DT a shot??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

It's true...and beans, if you remember, guys on RI were KILLING zorn for not giving Davis and DT a chance last year, and once he finally relented, well, it turned out they could play a little bit.

Shanny's ego is killing me so far. I know we're kind of in a transitional year, but he's gotta do whatever it takes to win games, including shaking up the roster when changes are warranted.

Posted by: mattylight | September 30, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

I think its funny that people cite that FD has only 3 catch's this year...thus he must be a failure...um..have you watched the games...other than not scoring a TD in game 1, and scoring 1 td in game 3...this offense has been like the 2007 Patriots....and until there were less than 4 minutes left in the last game, both FD, and CC had a COMBINED 4 catch's..so yeah, don't want to upset the offense, cuz its just running along so smoothly....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

I'll probably regret asking this, but what's with all the "NERD" talk from monk811? Did I miss the punchline?

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Hey monk...who ya gonna fight with today...and about what? DThomas seems to be a hot topic so far...

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

I'll try to not start the name calling and behave myself!

This Devin Thomas is a jackazz! Something's wrong with him if he can't even beat out Joey Galloway to get playing time, and don't get me started on Roydell Williams!!!
That being said, he has shown improvement in the return game. And by the way, didn't Shanny JUST SAY a couple weeks ago that his good kick returning has helped him out??? Ok, how has it helped him out? Does he at least consider putting him on the field in practice before he tells him to 'sit the hell down loser'?
Give him a chance to make plays, anything he can bring on the field is better than Joey "One Trick Pony" Galloway who only knows how to run go routes, and Roydell Williams who looks like he has something stuck up his azz while he runs, very weird.....

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse


bean, I understand what you're saying, I don't think you understand what Shanahan is saying. Would you prefer a coaching change ?

Posted by: hessone | September 30, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

I think its funny that people cite that FD has only 3 catch's this year...thus he must be a failure...um..have you watched the games...other than not scoring a TD in game 1, and scoring 1 td in game 3...this offense has been like the 2007 Patriots....and until there were less than 4 minutes left in the last game, both FD, and CC had a COMBINED 4 catch's..so yeah, don't want to upset the offense, cuz its just running along so smoothly....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 8:53 AM
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I would def say last week's game plan sucked, so it got me thinking: who is calling the plays? Is this Shanny Jr. or Shanny Sr.? Whoever called the plays in last week's game is definitely a candidate to be replaced by a retired BINGO player.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse


I'll try to not start the name calling and behave myself!

This Devin Thomas is a jackazz!

monk811, a man of his word !

Posted by: hessone | September 30, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

DT a bad passing running nerd??


Well, certainly didn't look like that in December last season.
How much of this is Shanahan determined to play someone else?
We know AH92 is better than people who are playing more than he is...

One would think a coach would play simply who is better. So what gives?

Sometimes one's ego is your greatest enemy.
Is that the case here w/ DT11?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 30, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

DT seems to be to be the ideal WR to run a quick slant pattern to. He is quick and agile and gets up field w/o hesitation. maybe transition him in slowly with some slants or even screens and work his way to some more complicated routes.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 30, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

p1, I'm not going that far, but from what you've seen, what do your eye's tell you as far as what the team has gotten production wise out of AA/JG/RW??...and given that lack of production, why hasn't there been a 'counter' move yet??

heck, given the trouble the team has at WR, and the apparent talent it has at TE, wouldn't it have made sense to feature the TE's, in order to get the passing game up to speed....that hasn't happened either...the last 1/2 of a football game that the team played wasn't exactly a strong showing offensively....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Shanny's ego is killing me so far.

Posted by: mattylight | September 30, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

It really takes some ego to want your receivers know the offense, run the right routes, and practice with consistency.

What does Devin Thomas do better than Joey Galloway?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 30, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

RSH, to be fair, Redskins Park was there as is long before Snyder came along. He should have figured out an indoor facility is necessary long ago, but it's not like he went cheap and easy to build Redskins Park or something...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I'll probably regret asking this, but what's with all the "NERD" talk from monk811? Did I miss the punchline?

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

It started with this guy coming in from the soccer blog and tried to ask a question, but the way he said 'howdy folks' and misspelled a bunch of stuff I decided to call him a NERD and PlayAction has been egging me on ever since. Not the wittyest thing ever, but it works.
You sorry you asked now?

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse


the last 1/2 of a football game that the team played wasn't exactly a strong showing offensively....

this teams offense over the last umpteen years has sucked, and DT has been part of that problem. So bean, want to fire Shanahan and bring in Cowher ?

Posted by: hessone | September 30, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

DT a bad passing running nerd??

Well, certainly didn't look like that in December last season.
How much of this is Shanahan determined to play someone else?
We know AH92 is better than people who are playing more than he is...

One would think a coach would play simply who is better. So what gives?

Sometimes one's ego is your greatest enemy.
Is that the case here w/ DT11?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 30, 2010 9:00 AM
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You know, "bad route runner" must be code in the NFL coaching ranks for something else entirely because we heard the same about Fred Davis until he came in and played like a beast.

You know, let's just take it a face value. So, he's a bad route runner? Dude can run in a straight line, right? Give him a handful of GO routes every game. Use him as a pass blocking receiver. Use him on the end around (won't be running any route then, will he?). Use him for a wide receiver screen (let's see, the route is "stop and wait for the ball" - I think he could handle it). I was trying to make this point yesterday that he is going to be on the active roster come game day. You have already decided that by making him a kick returner. So, why not mix him into the offensive plays? If he's active on game day, use him. Even if it's in a limited way, you could look at is giving another receiver a breather...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse


RSH, to be fair, Redskins Park was there as is long before Snyder came along. He should have figured out an indoor facility is necessary long ago, but it's not like he went cheap and easy to build Redskins Park or something...

c'mon brown, new video screens at fedex are more important for the game day experience. Gotta keep up with Jerry Jones.

Posted by: hessone | September 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

RSH, to be fair, Redskins Park was there as is long before Snyder came along. He should have figured out an indoor facility is necessary long ago, but it's not like he went cheap and easy to build Redskins Park or something...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 9:03 AM
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I know. So why hasn't Snyder spent the money to go this extra yard? Remember the big deal they made about the weight room being refurbished? WTF? A guy with Snyder's penchant for spending money should be refurbing the weight room every three years. AND the team should have an indoor facility...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I'll probably regret asking this, but what's with all the "NERD" talk from monk811? Did I miss the punchline?

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

It started with this guy coming in from the soccer blog and tried to ask a question, but the way he said 'howdy folks' and misspelled a bunch of stuff I decided to call him a NERD and PlayAction has been egging me on ever since. Not the wittyest thing ever, but it works.
You sorry you asked now?

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 9:03 AM

Yeah...thats monk's schtick...and that soccer pansy had it coming...the only one I have ever called a nerd on here is hessone...sorry hess...

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

p1, I'm not going that far, but from what you've seen, what do your eye's tell you as far as what the team has gotten production wise out of AA/JG/RW??...and given that lack of production, why hasn't there been a 'counter' move yet??

heck, given the trouble the team has at WR, and the apparent talent it has at TE, wouldn't it have made sense to feature the TE's, in order to get the passing game up to speed....that hasn't happened either...the last 1/2 of a football game that the team played wasn't exactly a strong showing offensively....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse


My eyes tell me that our offense is a one-trick pony right now: ride the play-making ability of DMac.

What does that mean for DT11?? Sadly, it confirms what many of us have been saying for a while - this guy doesn't look like he's got what it takes to cut it as an NFL starter.

Under Zorn, all he simply had to do was beat out James Thrash, Antwann Randle El, and fellow gimpster Malcolm Kelly for PT. Took him about a year and half to do that.

Now all he has to do is beat out a career Arena Leaguer, Joey "84 is my age, not just my jersey #" Galloway, and Roydell Williams. And he can;t seem to do that.

2 regimes desperate for some playmaking talent to emerge as a consistent contributor at WR.

And DT11 is 0 for 2.

So what does it say to me? That the problem is with the player. We drafted a guy who everyone knew to be very very raw talent. That he has the physical attributes of an incredible athelete, but does not have what it takes to master the craft of becoming a "professional" athlete at this level.

This wouldn't be the first time it's happened in the history of the NFL. Won't be the last.

Posted by: p1funk | September 30, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

So bean, want to fire Shanahan and bring in Cowher

hess, seriously?? yeah, thats what I'm saying....

whateves...by all means, didn't meant to say anything negative in regard to the offensive juggernaut that this team is...didn't mean to question the allmighty MS...I mean, Mcnabb having thrown 2 td's so far...the offense is obviously beyond reproach...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

What does Devin Thomas do better than Joey Galloway?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 30, 2010 9:02 AM
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Well, at his early age, I hear he is more regular.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

DT a bad passing running nerd??


Well, certainly didn't look like that in December last season.
How much of this is Shanahan determined to play someone else?
We know AH92 is better than people who are playing more than he is...

One would think a coach would play simply who is better. So what gives?

Sometimes one's ego is your greatest enemy.
Is that the case here w/ DT11?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 30, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Devin has been up and down his whole long career (2 1/4 years). Remember at first he came in and was looking kinda good, caught a nice long touchdown against the Cardinals his rookie year. Yeah, I almost forgot, HE F*CKED UP AND WAS CALLED FOR PASS INTERFERENCE!!! In fact, his whole rookie year was set back because he kept extending his arms while he blocked, got called for it every time!
I think he's a slow learner, and what was 'good route running' under Zorn last December is hardly adequate enough for Shanny. I don't know what goes on in practice, but for the dude to not even get some spot work late in the game, ANY of our games so far, tells me he either:
1. sucks at route running
2. sucks at learning this playbook
3. sucks at washing Shanny's car

I'm guessing #3, anybody want to chime in?

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse


Yeah...thats monk's schtick...and that soccer pansy had it coming...the only one I have ever called a nerd on here is hessone...sorry hess...

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 9:11 AM |

Thanks, I'll remember that.

Posted by: hessone | September 30, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

heck, given the trouble the team has at WR, and the apparent talent it has at TE, wouldn't it have made sense to feature the TE's, in order to get the passing game up to speed....that hasn't happened either...the last 1/2 of a football game that the team played wasn't exactly a strong showing offensively....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 9:01 AM


To be fair, it looks like Shanahan is looking to get the ball deep downfield more, so I'm not sure that jives with running a bunch of two TE sets. What we lack in size, we make up for in speed, so maybe he's just trying to maximize the potential to get yards/points in big chunks...just a thought...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

It started with this guy coming in from the soccer blog and tried to ask a question, but the way he said 'howdy folks' and misspelled a bunch of stuff I decided to call him a NERD and PlayAction has been egging me on ever since. Not the wittyest thing ever, but it works.
You sorry you asked now?

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 9:03 AM
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ROFL - YOU called a soccer blogger names on a blog and you're not even thinking that maybe that's the pot calling the kettle black?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Yeah...thats monk's schtick...and that soccer pansy had it coming...the only one I have ever called a nerd on here is hessone...sorry hess...

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

LMFAO, you got me rollin Play!

And don't forget our newly crowned King of the NERDS, zcest. The King has not yet graced us with his presence! (and pocket protector!)

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

ROFL - YOU called a soccer blogger names on a blog and you're not even thinking that maybe that's the pot calling the kettle black?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 9:17 AM

Wish I could go back and find that one RSH...it was funny.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

We need to establish plays at the line of scrimmage before we go with this attack down field philosophy. It is leading to a lot of 2md and 3rd and longs. the run game and short passing games needs to be set up for the downfield stuff to work. Two TE sets utilizing 2 of our 3 best pass catchers is not a bad idea at all, it would also help for when we actually run the ball if we ever actually run the ball.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 30, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

brown, they threw a 62 yard pass to FD, so that doesn't pass the sniff test as far as wanting to get the ball deep...like I said, 4 td's in 3 games...the offense is fine...doesn't need any adjustment at all...like buttah...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 30, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Anywho.

I think it would be wise to feature alot of 2 TE sets this week. Short routes over the middle, some TE screens, etc., would be a good counter to Philly's blitz-happy tendencies on defense.

Posted by: p1funk | September 30, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Anyone know how much a nice indoor facility would cost? More or less than the new jumbo trons? Is one at least being planned?

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse


bean, I feel the pain of watching this offense at work, have been for years. Take it from a guy who threw his arms up and almost gave up on the Redskins as a whole. Many posters, including you brought me back into the fold and I'm trying to be rational and stay positive. If Shanahan thinks any of the players left over from Cerrato doesn't meet his expectations, regardless of those feelings, he's not going to see the field. It's a long season with many games left to play. For all we know DT11 will be a starter by years end, but at this point it just looks improbable.

Posted by: hessone | September 30, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

ROFL - YOU called a soccer blogger names on a blog and you're not even thinking that maybe that's the pot calling the kettle black?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 30, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Disclamer - Any and all NERD classifications are final and cannot be reversed. Furthermore, it is stupid to compare football and soccer, everyone knows one is cool and manly (yes, even on a blog), and the other is long, boring, and for pansys (especially Europeans). Any complaints should be sent directly to the help desk: www.beamanandstopb*tchin.com.
That is all.

Posted by: monk811 | September 30, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Anyone know how much a nice indoor facility would cost? More or less than the new jumbo trons? Is one at least being planned?

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 9:25 AM

Nevermind...just read Snyders interview from August...its in the works but he seems more excited about the museum than the indoor facility.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 30, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Greg, that wasn't a 62-yard rainbow FD got under...it was a catch-and-run. That's not exactly getting vertical...

You know I'm not saying the offense is fixed or fine. All I'm saying is that FD and DT aren't some magic elixir that's going to jump start the offense.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

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