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Rams trade Adam Carriker to Redskins


Updated at 4:15 p.m.

The Redskins have acquired defensive tackle Adam Carriker, a former first-round draft pick, from the St. Louis Rams. To obtain Carriker, the Redskins swapped fifth-round picks with the Rams, moving down from No. 135 overall to 163. The teams also swapped seventh-round picks, with the Redskins moving up from 211 overall to the Rams' spot at 208.

A Nebraska product who played defensive end in college, Carriker was the Rams' 13th overall pick in the 2007 draft and lined up as a three-technique tackle. Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett was the St. Louis coordinator at the time and found success with Carriker, who was the team's top rookie performer in '07. The trade was first reported by ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Carriker missed all of the 2009 season after tearing a muscle in his shoulder late in the preseason. He underwent surgery and spent the year on the injured-reserve list. In essentially two seasons of playing, Carriker has started 25 games and played a role 53 tackles and two sacks. He has two years remaining on his rookie contract; he is due $1.07 million this season, $1.42 million in '11.

Carriker is regarded as something of an underachiever, but clearly Haslett still likes him.

The Redskins have clearly made the defensive line a priority this offseason. Carriker is the fifth linemen they've picked up since free agency began. On Monday, they signed Howard Green to a one-year contract and they'd previously signed Anthony Bryant, Maake Kemoeatu and Greg Peterson.

With all those additions, it certainly casts even more uncertainty on Albert Haynesworth's future with the team.

By Rick Maese and Jason Reid  |  April 20, 2010; 3:17 PM ET
 
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Comments

maybe we get #1 pick and Adam for our #4 pick

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

J Reid watches ESPN also. ROFL

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I will stay tuned for you to rip off ESPN once again, or I will just post it for you like I did this story.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

moo

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

His wiki is already updated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Carriker

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

First

Posted by: piyusharora | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I pooped my pants.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | April 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

bye-bye JC? We can't have given them a pick, right?

Posted by: bschaef12 | April 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

bye-bye JC? We can't have given them a pick, right?

Posted by: bschaef12 | April 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

no you're not.

Details? Anyone?

...Beuhler?

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Dude's wikipedia page already reflects the trade. They don't play!

Posted by: AdamCr | April 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Two of those things haven't happened.

So purely based on a trade for McNabb, Shanahan = Cerrato?

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes its the win now attitude of the last ten years when we all know we are not that close. I am not hatting on the moves so far and certainly am not saying they are bad moves but cmon, DMAC, LJ, fast willie. Tell me these dont look like snyderatto moves!?!

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Redskins trade for Carriker
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 3:30 PM ET
The Washington Redskins have traded a 2010 2nd round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for defensive tackle Adam Carriker, a former first round draft pick.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

must...have...details...

Posted by: chrislarry | April 20, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

We don't have a 2010 second round pick.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Redskins trade for Carriker
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 3:30 PM ET
The Washington Redskins have traded a 2010 2nd round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for defensive tackle Adam Carriker, a former first round draft pick.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 3:26 PM

Amazing! You're able to capture these things off the net FOUR minutes before they're posted! How do you do that? And shouldn't it say 2011 draft pick?

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

John Clayton reporting the Rams will get our 5th round pick....!

So now we only have 3 picks???? And isn't Carriker a bust????

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins have traded a 2010 2nd round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for defensive tackle Adam Carriker, a former first round draft pick.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse
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Excellent value!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who we are trading AH to now...my hope is that we keep him and shuts up and plays NT and we would be pretty nasty up front if Maake comes back healthy

Posted by: mhartz1 | April 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

let the trading begin

Posted by: COskins | April 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"Yes its the win now attitude of the last ten years when we all know we are not that close. I am not hatting on the moves so far and certainly am not saying they are bad moves but cmon, DMAC, LJ, fast willie. Tell me these dont look like snyderatto moves!?!

Posted by: Stu27"

In my opinion, no, they don't.

Cerrato moves would have been signing Julius Peppers or Karlos Dansby, or some other high-priced FA to a record contract. LJ and Fast Willie are low-risk, high-reward signings for cheap contracts that won't hamstring the franchise.

The McNabb trade might resemble the old regime, but there's a stark difference between trading a 2nd and 4th for McNabb and trading 2 first rounders (plus more) for Jay Cutler or Chad Ochocinco.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

http://twitter.com/BJRains

Rams beat writer tweets he was just with coaches and no mention of trade made.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Yes its the win now attitude of the last ten years when we all know we are not that close. I am not hatting on the moves so far and certainly am not saying they are bad moves but cmon, DMAC, LJ, fast willie. Tell me these dont look like snyderatto moves!?!

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 3:25 PM |

If they were Snderatto moves they would have got big money log term deals, so no they don't look like there moves at all.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

We don't have a 2010 second round pick.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:28 PM

I think he meant to say "2010 second round ham sandwich." Or "2010 pot of BostonBakedBeans."

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

would have rather had santonio holmes for our 5th round pick

Posted by: coparker5 | April 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

We don't have a 2010 second round pick.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse
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He never said it was OUR 2010 2nd rounder.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

So...we traded a draft pick....for a guy who isnt even on the freaking depth chart?

Good move. NOT.


I swear, I'm only going to put up with this for another 10 years before I'm switching teams.

Posted by: TheSuperhoo | April 20, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Økung!

Posted by: Corvis777 | April 20, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

staggers back to take rightful place in the hook and bunt order...

not sure what to make of this. Carriker was injured, so it sounds like another low-wage gamble. stocking up for an AH trade?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins have traded a 2010 2nd round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for defensive tackle Adam Carriker, a former first round draft pick.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I hope we get it in writing soon!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Carriker is often injured. When he's on the field he seems to be solid against the run, but offers NO pass rush.
_________

Carriker started all 16 games as a rookie after the Rams chose him in the first round of the 2007 draft, but he started only nine games in 2008 and missed the entire 2009 season after suffering a serious shoulder injury.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

So now we only have 3 picks???? And isn't Carriker a bust????

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 20, 2010 3:29 PM

Lisa, I've decided that I'm not going to go to the Redskins draft day party at FedEx with only three picks. You'll have to get a ride with someone else. Sorry.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

This could be a swap, Adam Carriker plus Ram's second round pick in 2010 for Albert Haynesworth. Just a speculation.

Posted by: abxinc | April 20, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Good deal for us -- we gave them a pick we don't even have.

Details to follow.

Posted by: just-the-facts | April 20, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Fat Al and the 4 pick for Adam and the 1 pick?

Posted by: Gweez | April 20, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

hopefully it's for jason campbell. good way for JC to resurrect (no pun intended) his career in a rebuilding franchise as the focal point.
we don't need Carriker to rush the passer if he's the nose tackle. we just need him to push the center/guard back just enough to make the QB a bit uncomfortable, and we need him to stop the run. we'll let orakpo and company deal with getting to the QB.

Posted by: kman2 | April 20, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

As I posted above, there is a report John Clayton said it was for a 5th round pick....I'm assuming this year - which if true is IDIOTIC!

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 20, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

This could be a swap, Adam Carriker plus Ram's second round pick in 2010 for Albert Haynesworth. Just a speculation.

Posted by: abxinc | April 20, 2010 3:36 PM

The report said that AH was not included in this deal.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Fat Al and the 4 pick for Adam and the 1 pick?
Posted by: Gweez | April 20, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

AH not involved in trade per AS

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

The St. Louis Rams have traded defensive tackle Adam Carriker to the Washington Redskins for what is beleived to be a fifth-round draft choice, sources tell ESPN.com.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

it is for depth purposes and competition at each position. That is the standard line we must live by

Posted by: connskins | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Beantown needs a net for this one.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

This could be a swap, Adam Carriker plus Ram's second round pick in 2010 for Albert Haynesworth. Just a speculation.

Posted by: abxinc

From PFT: "Adam Schefter reported the trade on ESPN. Schefter didn't have the terms of the trade, but he did report that the trade does not involve Albert Haynesworth."

Granted, it IS PFT...

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The McNabb trade might resemble the old regime, but there's a stark difference between trading a 2nd and 4th for McNabb and trading 2 first rounders (plus more) for Jay Cutler or Chad Ochocinco.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

They never made those trades. At this point we have now 3 draft picks and a backfield full of 30+ year olds that we picked up this year while talking about getting younger. We cant give them longer term deals cause they will be dead by then.

Keep having the blind faith so will I but be realistic about the situation.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

As I posted above, there is a report John Clayton said it was for a 5th round pick....I'm assuming this year - which if true is IDIOTIC!

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 20, 2010 3:37 PM |

Link the report or say where you heard it please.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

If they were Snderatto moves they would have got big money log term deals, so no they don't look like there moves at all.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:31 PM

They're not all long term deals:

July 20, 2008:

"Vinny Cerrato just announced the Skins acquired Pro Bowl DE Jason Taylor from Miami for a second round pick in 2009 and a sixth-round pick in 2010.

Taylor has talked about playing just one more season before leaving the NFL for acting/Hollywood options, but Cerrato, Washington's executive VP of football operations, said, "I'm 100 percent confident he'll play more than one year."."

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

St. Louis

Sources: Rams DT Carriker traded to Redskins

The Rams have traded defensive tackle Adam Carriker to the Redskins for what is beleived to be a fifth-round draft choice,

Posted by: BugEyes | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they traded the Natinals 5th round pick in this years upcoming MLB draft.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | April 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"As I posted above, there is a report John Clayton said it was for a 5th round pick....I'm assuming this year - which if true is IDIOTIC!

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 20, 2010 3:37 PM"

Quick Lisa, who was our last 5th round pick?

Or the best 5th round pick we've had this decade?

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I’ll bet ESPN and the NFL network totally “scoop” the WAPO Thursday night as far as what the Skins do with their #4 pick. They will probably show it literally right when Goodell announces it. Not like these WAPO jerks who never work. Stupid jerks. Let me be the first to say that they should call this Redskins “Outsider” – HA! So clever……

I’m gonna watch it on ESPN, and then I’ll get a tweet, and then I will check “up here” and I’ll see that the WaPo hasn’t posted it yet, so I will post it in the comments section, thusly “scooping” WaPo yet again, cuz I am aaaawsome!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

From Schefter's twitter:

"To acquire Adam Carricker, Washington swapped spots with St. Louis in the 5th round for the pick the Rams had from the Eagles."

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

WHOA!! A Steal:

Per AS twitter

To acquire Adam Carricker, Washington swapped spots with St. Louis in the 5th round for the pick the Rams had from the Eagles

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

adam schefter said something about swapping picks the rams got from the eagles...not very clear

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | April 20, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

The St. Louis Rams have traded defensive tackle Adam Carriker to the Washington Redskins for what is beleived to be a fifth-round draft choice, sources tell ESPN.com.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 3:38 PM

That seems about right in terms of compensation.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh nooooo. Now we can't draft the next Dallas Sartz.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 20, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Rams have confirmed trade, according to Rams beat writer's twitter. Click the link I posted above.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato just announced the Skins acquired Pro Bowl DE Jason Taylor from Miami for a second round pick in 2009 and a sixth-round pick in 2010.

Taylor has talked about playing just one more season before leaving the NFL for acting/Hollywood options, but Cerrato, Washington's executive VP of football operations, said, "I'm 100 percent confident he'll play more than one year."."


Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:39 PM |

The new regime made a trade like this, I don't think so.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

unabated frenzy as all the cows surge aimlessly for the last piece of corn!

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Carriker!!!

Super Bowl here we come!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sports_Guru | April 20, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

It's as if the Redskins don't even want my money.

Neither does DirecTV for that matter.

Posted by: nick445 | April 20, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

does chocolate milk come from brown cows?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | April 20, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Skins didn't trade fifth. Skins swapped fifths with Rams (via Eagles).

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Unless they get some picks this is going to be one boring draft

Posted by: skinswest | April 20, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Lightin' one 'Jack Herer' up for the homie Jack Herer, who passed away five days ago.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 20, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Swapping 5th round picks for a former first rounder coming off a serious injury.

Very low risk trade with potential for high reward.

Love the trade.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

There is a big AH trade in the works for multiple draft picks, it will come to light Thursday night.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Hes going to play DE in the 3-4, that's the position hes better suited for.

He was a DT in a 4-3 with the Rams. Haslett coached him there so Im sure he was the one pushing for this move.

I think this is a solid move and a clear signal that AH will be plaing nose primarily.

Posted by: DMoney28 | April 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"The Redskins have clearly made the defensive line a priority this offseason. Carriker is the fifth linemen they've picked up since free agency began."

What about the O-line? I know, I know, wait until draft day. I've heard that all before.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

We swapped 5th round picks with the Rams, no big deal, we didn't lose a pick...

Posted by: mattylight | April 20, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, you are giving me a headache....years of excuses for the past regimes....yet the new one doesn't even get 1 game...

Haslett coached AC, 1st round pick for 5th, an incomplete picture b/c like you know the draft and associated moves haven't HAPPENED YET! He is a run stopper/space eater which fits new scheme...has started in the league...is still young...

Posted by: chrislarry | April 20, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

This trade gets more brilliant by the moment.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Unless they get some picks this is going to be one boring draft

Posted by: skinswest

They have the same number of picks now as they did yesterday. Nothing (else) has been traded away (yet).

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

His wiki is already updated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Carriker

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 3:22 PM

Has anyone checked AH's wiki?

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Moving down 28 spots for a high potential 3-4 DE, doesn't sound like a horrible deal to me.

Posted by: bigcountry22 | April 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

does chocolate milk come from brown cows?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | April 20, 2010 3:43 PM

all different kinds... coffee milk from Rhode Island was always a favorite of mine.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Skins didn't trade fifth. Skins swapped fifths with Rams (via Eagles).

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse


Skins: Lets swap 5th rounders and we will throw in JC

Rams: We will accept your offer minus JC.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, all we did was move down 28 spots in the 5th... doesnt seem too bad.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Wish it was for OJ Atogwe instead. Why are we not going after this guy eh?

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Any goodwill that the new regime has built up would be totally destroyed with an Owens to D.C. move. It would be a "win now" strategy and not a strategy where a team can have sustained success.

Put it this way, wouldn't you want joy 24/7 in your life or are you looking for a crack rock to get you high for a short period of your time? Terrell Owens is that crack rock. As Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel once said, "Don't do it!"

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | April 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

WE SAWPPED 5TH ROUND PICKS BUT PICKED UP A YOUNG PLAYER OUR DC ALREADY KNOWS AND COACHED!IDIOTIC! I AM WRITING LARRY MICHAELS A LETTER ABOUT HOW SHANNT INSULTED OUR 5TH ROUND PICK!!!!

(typed in Lisa's voice)

Posted by: chrislarry | April 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"It is not immediately certain what they Redskins gave up.
The trade leaves the Redskins with just three draft picks heading into the three-day draft that begins Thursday, fewer than any other team."

If you don't know what they gave up how do you know it was a pick?? I will trust the coaches here, could be a nice steal. If not, we've done worse with 5th rounders...

Posted by: AdamCr | April 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, I've decided that I'm not going to go to the Redskins draft day party at FedEx with only three picks. You'll have to get a ride with someone else. Sorry.

Posted by: League-Source

Four picks. It's nice that ur welching on Lisa pr'ck.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Reid you should have waited to steal your story from Shefter you may have gotten it right.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

That sounds like a Shanahan type trade. Nice.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh man!!! These moves are beginning to stink more and more as time goes on. How much pull does Haslett have being able to bring in all these retreads?!?
Whatever happened to Joe Gibbs' philosophy of making the scheme fit the players? This group seems intent on figuring out how to jamb a square peg into a round hole.
4 and 10, here we go again

Posted by: pd2710 | April 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The new regime made a trade like this, I don't think so.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:42 PM

You're right. Instead of giving up a 2 in 2009 and a 6 in 2010 for 33 year old former Pro-Bowler, the new regime gave up a 2 in 2010 and a 3 or4 in 2011 for a 33 year old former Pro-Bowler.

How could I have *possibly* have missed the difference?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

To obtain Carriker, the Redskins swapped fifth-round picks with the Rams, moving down from No. 135 overall to 163.

By Rick Maese | April 20, 2010; 3:17 PM ET

We moved down 28 picks. More than a ham sandwich, but less than the baloney that we were reading.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget holy milk, which comes from sacred cows.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

This is a GOOD pickup.

I remember before he was drafted by the Rams, one of the draft announcers felt if you put all of that years d-linemen in a phone booth to fight it out the only one that would emerge wwould be Carriker.

Good pick up.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow, all we did was move down 28 spots in the 5th... doesnt seem too bad.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a very smart trade to me.... but how did we get someone so good for so little? Seems fishy to me... excellent, but a little fishy...

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | April 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm dense but what benefit do the Rams get out of swapping 5th Round draft picks with us?

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so we get our new DC a starting, YOUNG, player he drafted for close to nothin' and it's not good enough?! Remember who we drafted in the 5th in '07? Dallas Sartz. Just cuz it's a pick doesn't mean it's worth anything. I LIKE this trade! A LOT!

Posted by: DCV1 | April 20, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Getting Carriker and Green strongly suggests that we're going to be dealing AH and/or A. Carter for draft picks.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 20, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Carriker had a severe shoulder injury last year. He probably couldn't pass a physical.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | April 20, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a very smart trade to me.... but how did we get someone so good for so little? Seems fishy to me... excellent, but a little fishy...

Posted by: sweetsweetlou

Injury concerns. Let's you get 'em cheap ;)

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 20, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Good lord. I must confess I haven't paid much attention to Carriker over the course of his short career. Does he have any talent? he must have really sucked in St. Lous in order for the Rams to part with the 13th overall pick from 2007 for basically nothing. This is about the smallest trade value I've ever seen.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 20, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

everyone calm down, we moved down in the 5th round and acquired a first round pick from just 3 years ago. not much risk

Posted by: follybeach | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

You're right. Instead of giving up a 2 in 2009 and a 6 in 2010 for 33 year old former Pro-Bowler, the new regime gave up a 2 in 2010 and a 3 or4 in 2011 for a 33 year old former Pro-Bowler.

How could I have *possibly* have missed the difference?


Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:51 PM |

If you don't know the huge difference in these trades then your a dumba$$ who doesn't know football and I have no time for you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

the closer we get to the draft the less value players teams wanto trade, have. the rams probably asked for a 3rd but ended up with a 5th. Good deal in my eyes. he never fit in a spagnolo 4-3 but will be our starting end in a 3-4. More trades to come get ready.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget holy milk, which comes from sacred cows.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 3:51 PM

honestly, I'm ready to sacrifice a few of those.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

If they trade AH, it would really be nice if they get someone who could pass rush from the DL.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

STEAL

Posted by: jgarrisn | April 20, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"I know I'm dense but what benefit do the Rams get out of swapping 5th Round draft picks with us?

Posted by: Lisa_R"

Several million $$ in the owner's pocket in order to pay Sam Bradford instead of paying a guy who wasn't in their plans.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Carricker on sale RT @SalaryCap101: Carriker has 2 yrs remaining on his rookie contract; #Redskins will pay him 1.07M in '10 & 1.42M in '11

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

If you don't know the huge difference in these trades then your a dumba$$ who doesn't know football and I have no time for you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM

You promise? Because I swear your idiocy does feel like it's rubbing off on me. I lose brain cells every time I read your drivel. Let's skip each others posts from now on, deal?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins have traded a 2010 2nd round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for defensive tackle Adam Carriker, a former first round draft pick.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 3:26 PM

Now I'm impressed. We trade something we don't even have.

"You want that second round pick StL? Call philly. And oh yeah, bet on Secreteriat in the Derby. Heh Heh. Click."

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Carriker had a severe shoulder injury last year. He probably couldn't pass a physical.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins


I'm not 100% sure how this works, but I thought that trades were official once the traded player(s) passed their physical.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 20, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

This is a fine trade... the man played for hasslett and played well in 2007. He is a fine fit on our new 3-4 dline and should he come back healthy he'll fit in perfectly. We dropped back 28 spots in the draft, nothing ridiculous and in the end we still have 4 picks. Not the end of the world... very low risk, high reward move and we finally go get a young player... nicely done Shanny and Brucy... this is how to rebuild a team.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 20, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Ok, maybe it wasn't the $$.

Then again, maybe this is why the Rams have been picking in the top 5 for the last few years.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

To all of the people who were saying trade "AH for Carriker" a month ago..

Dale Doback: I manage a baseball team.
Nancy Huff: Oh, little league?
Dale Doback: Fantasy league.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

the 13th overall pick from 2007 for basically nothing. This is about the smallest trade value I've ever seen.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 20, 2010 3:54 PM

Hey Vinny pulled off a better one than this. Remember when he stole Erasmus James, 18th overall pick in the 2005 draft, from the Vikings for a seventh round pick? That has to have been smaller trade value.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 3:26 PM

BG is casting into the snags... might use a softer touch next time. or a compound bow.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh man!!! These moves are beginning to stink more and more as time goes on. How much pull does Haslett have being able to bring in all these retreads?!?

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Retreads?? This guy is a former #1 that Haslett has a working relationship with & he knows his work ethic & he probably knew how the organization viewed him, which is how we got this deal...

I definitely trust Haslett considering he is the DC that Carriker is going to work with everyday.

Posted by: tony325 | April 20, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

You promise? Because I swear your idiocy does feel like it's rubbing off on me. I lose brain cells every time I read your drivel. Let's skip each others posts from now on, deal?


Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:57 PM |

I'm the idiot at least I'm not wasting my time on the blog of a team I obviously don't like. But keep up the good work, and yes I will skip your stupid post from now on.

When the Skins get good though and your on here being all happy, and saying how you knew it all along I will call you out.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Nice deal for the skins @J Reid you should credit ESPN & Schefter when you click & paste their stories.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm the idiot ....

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 4:02 PM

I appreciate your honesty.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Please refer to Webster's for the definition of "swap"....this is so low risk it's not worth ranting about....please interpret: we moved down 28 spots from 135 to 163, but we have a former first rounder (13th pick)thrown in who is not old....so, we have an extra player in this deal....i don't believe any brady's or terrell davis' are at the end of this draft and if there were the skins wouldn't be fortunate enough to get them. This is a good move people.

Posted by: jwmartin_72 | April 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Have to remember Spagnuolo didn't draft Carriker and has no ties to him. Probably doesn't fit the D he wants to run. They move up in the 5th round for trading a player they don't want.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

4 and 10, here we go again

Posted by: pd2710 | April 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

We should never have traded two games in the 2010 season for Jason Taylor and a ham'n'cheese sandwich.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | April 20, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey Vinny pulled off a better one than this. Remember when he stole Erasmus James, 18th overall pick in the 2005 draft, from the Vikings for a seventh round pick? That has to have been smaller trade value.

Posted by: League-Source

Yeah cuz certainly we can compare a trade from a brilliant tactician like Cerrato to what shanallen are doing.
We moved down in the 5th to get someone who Haslett has coached before, but of course you would know more than Haslett with your experience in coaching Carriker, right?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

If you don't know the huge difference in these trades then your a dumba$$ who doesn't know football and I have no time for you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM

You promise? Because I swear your idiocy does feel like it's rubbing off on me. I lose brain cells every time I read your drivel. Let's skip each others posts from now on, deal?
Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Gotta side with flounder on this debate. There is a huge difference in value between a former probowl DE and former probowl QB.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Nice deal for the skins @J Reid you should credit ESPN & Schefter when you click & paste their stories.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 20, 2010 4:03 PM

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no kidding. way to scoop, wapo!

Posted by: TheSuperhoo | April 20, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

St. Louis is cheap, perhaps was even thinking of releasing him to save money or just eliminate competition if it takes Suh.

Certainly only risk for Skins is his salary and we don't need to worry about money.

Posted by: Pensfans | April 20, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I've learned two things today:

Rocco is not Justin Beiber.

And Jim Haslet obviously wasn't impressed with the redskins' defensive line.

So far, we've added:

Bryant, Kemoteau, Petersen, Green

to

Golston, Daniels, Jackson, Wilson, Orakpo, Montgomery, and Jarmon.

Oh, and I forgot:

Albert Haynesworth

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I believe Carriker is a 3-4 type end and the Rams now run a 4-3. Between that and his injury, he was expendable.

I'm sure the Rams will draft a future hall of famer with that pick but until they do, this looks like a pretty good deal.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 20, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | April 20, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pd2710 | April 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

1. You refute your own argument about the new coaching staff trying to jam square pegs into round holes by pointing out that they are bringing in a lot of new players.

2. The team was 4-12 last year, not 4-10. The NFL stopped playing 14-game seasons about 35 years ago. If you're going to rip the new administration, at least do it in a way that makes sense.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 20, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

This guy must have really been in thier doghouse to get him for so cheap.

Either that or they don't think he will recover from his injuries.

Good move either way but now we have several Dlineman who we have to be concerned about there injuries.

Maake kemoutee
Adam Carriker
Phillip Daniels
All these guys have injury concerns daniels cause hes 38

Andre carter, Orakpo, wilson
Are all guys that can't play dline in a 3-4

So I don't see how this precludes AH trade because where would our dline play come from? Golston, montgomery I don't think so.

Posted by: DG28 | April 20, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Golston, Daniels, Jackson, Wilson, Orakpo, Montgomery, and Jarmon.

Oh, and I forgot:

Albert Haynesworth

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 4:07 PM

Here's the thing..Jackson, Wilson, Orakpo, and Jarmon are all LBs this year, so there really wasn't any depth on the Dline.

Posted by: TWISI | April 20, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

There is a huge difference in value between a former probowl DE and former probowl QB.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 4:06 PM

I would agree if that were the whole story, but a major part of it is they were both 33 years old.

People age differently, granted, but Taylor aged pretty quickly with the Skins. I'm only being realistic about how fast a 33 year old QB will age behind a question mark OL.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight……at 3:14 follybeach posted that he saw on espn that the trade was done, and Maese has a new thread three minutes later (according to the “timestamp”) and some of you feel, what….mad that it took so long? How could that three minutes have had any sort of consequence? Did you bet someone that the skins would trade for the guy by 3:15? What? Or are you mad that they got “scooped” by espn…..the leader in the sports business with arguably the number 1 insider (schefter) in the business. And read it again; he does say according to espn’s adam schefter. So they are using all of the tools at their disposal. I hate to break it to you, but every story gets “broken” by someone, and all of the other outlets react and start reporting based on what they initially heard. So the Wapo isn’t the first to break most stories…..so what?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 20, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Also memba Rams are in the process of being sold....so they want to jettison contracts. This way they salary dump with the slight comfort they got "something"

In the 5t round its mostly need, plus a huge variance in who your scouts like, have seen...etc....so from the Skins POV this falls under "no brainer"

Posted by: chrislarry | April 20, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the Rams now take Suh or McCoy with the 1st?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I definitely trust Haslett considering he is the DC that Carriker is going to work with everyday.

Posted by: tony325

Absolutely. Carriker was a developing player who happened to get injured. Shoulder injuries, unless they are particularly serious (ie career ending), are often recovered from fully by the player. I think Carriker got a 4th degree ac separation; it needs surgery and about a year but then they are typically back to form with effective rehab.
http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/front/shoulder/acjoint.htm

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

nice to see Shanny busy on revamping the team's strongest unit of recent years, while the oline is still a shambles.

Posted by: divi3 | April 20, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

word, d-haze. Cosign.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

wapo isnt the first to break ANY real story.

first to break a story on a mispelled uniform maybe...

Posted by: TheSuperhoo | April 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 20, 2010 4:07 PM| Report abuse

You also forgot Andre Carter and Adam Carriker.

Talk about depth along the D-line. Haynesworth, Orakpo, Carter, Carriker, Golston, Jarmon, Daniels, Kemoeatu, Montgomery, Wilson, Green, Bryant, Jackson, and Peterson.

That's a healthy list of names.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

For a swap of 5th round picks . . . that's it? there has to be more to this. Was the contact too much for the Rams? He was on IR in 2009, did he go soft?

6-6, 297, 4.71 40 time - dude could play anywhere in the front. Sounds like an absolute steal but hard to tell.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 20, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

What about the O-line?

Posted by: allknowingguy | April 20, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Redskins trade for Carriker, shocked at his appearance
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 4:20 PM ET
The Washington Redskins have swapped places with the St. Louis Rams in the 5th round of the 2010 draft in addition the Redskins have gotten defensive tackle Adam Carriker. When Carriker showed up at team headquarters they were shocked to find out that Carriker had his left arm amputated after suffering a severe shoulder injury last year. Suffice to say, the Redskins are looking into their options at this time.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

On Monday, they signed Howard Green to a one-year contract and they'd previously signed Anthony Bryant, Maake Kemoeatu and Greg Peterson.

Hey wait a minute, isn't Greg Peterson that Skeleton Robot sidekick on Craig Ferguson's show?

Posted by: TheCork | April 20, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm not 100% sure how this works, but I thought that trades were official once the traded player(s) passed their physical.

by RedDMV

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We don't know if this trade is official yet, though. In an instant gratification world, people want to know everything this second. The ink is probably not dry on this trade yet, so we don't know if a physical has taken place. ALl I'm saying is that he could fail the physical. Maybe they won't want a physical and will just take the warm body, but who knows? The trade was basically for a ham sandwich, so why ask for it back once it is already eaten?

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | April 20, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

He is a 3-4 player. He does not fit in Spags 4-3. He was hurt last year and probably was not in the plans for Spags... same idea as JC for us, you either cut the man or move up 28 spots in the 5th... what sounds better? It could work out perfectly for the skins. He comes in, plays end for us and, if 2007 is an indication, plays well... and allows us to ship BFA out for hopefully a 2nd rounder (which we use to take a LB, or a OT).

I'm a fan of this. This is moving in the right direction... any Eagle/Patriot type trade... pick up the trash from another team on the cheap and hope he works out. If he doesn't, no real skin off our backs we still have a 5th rounder. If he does, we have a solid 3-4 end for the forseeable future... jackpot. Nicely done.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 20, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

What about the O-line?

Posted by: allknowingguy | April 20, 2010 4:15 PM |

What about waiting for the draft?

There are no o-linmen to be had right now, and any low level o-linmen that are out there will still be there after the draft.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

This is a fine trade... the man played for hasslett and played well in 2007. He is a fine fit on our new 3-4 dline and should he come back healthy he'll fit in perfectly. We dropped back 28 spots in the draft, nothing ridiculous and in the end we still have 4 picks. Not the end of the world... very low risk, high reward move and we finally go get a young player... nicely done Shanny and Brucy... this is how to rebuild a team.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1

Agreed, with one minor correction. Its not 'high reward' -- its a chance for a 'high reward'. We know he has enough talent to make this a high reward deal.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Good time on that post bean. You'd have to be high as hell to believe that. Def a possibility with some of the braniacs who frequent here.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 20, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

1 Bradford STL
2. Okung DET
3. Suh TAM
4. McCoy/Berry/Clausen ????

AH92 to DET for the #34 overall.

Redskins trade away the # 4 and get the #??? (1st rd), the #???(2nd rd) and the #??? (4/5th rd).

Would love to see some variation of this go down. Redskins would have a 1, two 2s, andn another 4 or 5.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 20, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

If Cerrato was still here we would have given-up our first round pick for Carriker. God I'm glad that d'ck is gone.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"Yes its the win now attitude of the last ten years when we all know we are not that close. I am not hatting on the moves so far and certainly am not saying they are bad moves but cmon, DMAC, LJ, fast willie. Tell me these dont look like snyderatto moves!?!

Posted by: Stu27"

In my opinion, no, they don't.

Cerrato moves would have been signing Julius Peppers or Karlos Dansby, or some other high-priced FA to a record contract. LJ and Fast Willie are low-risk, high-reward signings for cheap contracts that won't hamstring the franchise.

The McNabb trade might resemble the old regime, but there's a stark difference between trading a 2nd and 4th for McNabb and trading 2 first rounders (plus more) for Jay Cutler or Chad Ochocinco.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I wish all Skins fans were savvy enough to see what psps23 stared above. Because that's Gospel, if you got a clue. And the Carriker trade is right with it. 25 yr. Old 1st rd'er WITH injury questions. For a swap of 5s??? That's as low risk and high reward as it gets. Wake up people. This is a very new way of Doing Business. And I like it.

Posted by: Club320 | April 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins have swapped places with the St. Louis Rams in the 5th round of the 2010 draft in addition the Redskins have gotten defensive tackle Adam Carriker. When Carriker showed up at team headquarters they were shocked to find out that Carriker had his left arm amputated after suffering a severe shoulder injury last year. Suffice to say, the Redskins are looking into their options at this time.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Gotta hand it to you, BeantownGreg... That gave me the biggest laugh I've had in a long time. I've got tears in my eyes...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | April 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey wait a minute, isn't Greg Peterson that Skeleton Robot sidekick on Craig Ferguson's show?

Posted by: TheCork | April 20, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse


No, I think he was Sloane Peterson's father in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Haslett must really love these lineman coming off an injury. Maybe he thinks they have something to prove.

A defense lineman has to be hungry we need that guy with a nonstop motor.

To me orakpo could be that guy

Imagine this we have Daniels and AH as Defensive ends with golston rotating

Carriker, Maake, Montgomery rotating at NT

Then Carter, Orakpo, Jarmon, Wilson taking turns coming off the edge as OLB

That looks formidable on paper

But we have been a good team on paper for years.

Posted by: DG28 | April 20, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Vinny pulled off a better one than this. Remember when he stole Erasmus James, 18th overall pick in the 2005 draft, from the Vikings for a seventh round pick? That has to have been smaller trade value.

Posted by: League-Source

Yeah cuz certainly we can compare a trade from a brilliant tactician like Cerrato to what shanallen are doing.
We moved down in the 5th to get someone who Haslett has coached before, but of course you would know more than Haslett with your experience in coaching Carriker, right?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 4:06 PM |

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm m&m.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 20, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

With all the good o-line in the draft this year there will be a good FA pool of Olimeman after the draft when some of their contracts get jettisoned for the youngins and the uncapped yr.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

" ... To obtain Carriker, the Redskins swapped fifth-round picks with the Rams, moving down from No. 135 overall to 163. ..."

Former 1st round pick allows you to move up 27 picks in the fifth round? This does not bode well for getting value for Jason Campbell.

Did the Rams just hate this guy or something?

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I DIDN'T MAKE IT UP...

cats got no left arm...way to do your due diligence BA...we got SCREWED in this deal....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

a pick swap plus a player. Good deal to me.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 20, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Why were the rams so intent on getting rid of him? Isn't he only about to start his thrid year? Seems pretty early to give up on a guy that was on ir last year if this is the case. And all they did was swap 5th rounders? really? Something doesn't seem right here.

Posted by: Burrasta1 | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

More than a ham sandwich, but less than the baloney that we were reading.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 3:51 PM

I thought the proverbial ham sandwich was replaced by the corned beef reuben up here.

corned beef > ham > baloney

Posted by: 4-12 | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

There is a huge difference in value between a former probowl DE and former probowl QB.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 4:06 PM

I would agree if that were the whole story, but a major part of it is they were both 33 years old.

People age differently, granted, but Taylor aged pretty quickly with the Skins. I'm only being realistic about how fast a 33 year old QB will age behind a question mark OL.

I agree with your concern of the old QB behind a suspect OL. But I think a great QB also improves past protection by exploiting the defense on blitzes and having a better overall picture of where to throw the ball.

Yes, they are both 33, but I would argue that 33 for a QB is not nearly the concern as 33 for a DE. I'm thinking about Kurt Warner, Bret Favre, Dan Marino, Steve Young, and of course John Elway. All had success at older age. Can you say the same thing about old DE's? None come to mind.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Assuming this is true....

Does this mean Rams take Suh?

Bradford falls?


.

Posted by: oldnova | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, with one minor correction. Its not 'high reward' -- its a chance for a 'high reward'. We know he has enough talent to make this a high reward deal.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:19 PM

I'm not sure you completely understand the meaning behind the "low risk high reward" terminology.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Former 1st round pick allows you to move up 27 picks in the fifth round? This does not bode well for getting value for Jason Campbell.

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2010 4:23 PM

although JC doesn't have the injury stigma, I think many here have over-valued his trade potential. where you were picked doesn't mean anything when it comes time to weigh in.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Assuming this is true....

Does this mean Rams take Suh?

Bradford falls?


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Posted by: oldnova | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I am afraid if that.

Posted by: BugEyes | April 20, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse


Unless there are secret draft picks they aren't telling us about, I like this trade.

Let Phillip daniels muscle him up for a year, then stand back.

Or worst case scenario, they "switched 5th rounders."

Now they NEED to unload Haynesworth & Campbell and get some higher pix to rebuild the O line.

But what DOES scare me is this may mean the Rams take Suh, Detroit goes with Okung to protect their franchise, TB picks McCoy and Shanahan can't resist Bradford.

FYI: Trent Dilfer, as good a broadcaster as he was average as a player, is all over Colt McCoy. Savs he'll be the pick of the litter. Last year he liked Sanchez..so....

Posted by: TheCork | April 20, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I believe Carriker is a 3-4 type end and the Rams now run a 4-3. Between that and his injury, he was expendable.

I'm sure the Rams will draft a future hall of famer with that pick but until they do, this looks like a pretty good deal.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 20, 2010 4:08 PM

When he was drafted, I thought he was supposed to be a 4-3 DT ...

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Why were the rams so intent on getting rid of him?

did you read the post from PFT, he's only got one arm...that we know of...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Why were the rams so intent on getting rid of him? Isn't he only about to start his thrid year? Seems pretty early to give up on a guy that was on ir last year if this is the case. And all they did was swap 5th rounders? really? Something doesn't seem right here.

Posted by: Burrasta1 | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Being cheap and Chris Long.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 20, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Redskin coaches reported that after seeing carriker move stephen heyer around like a rag doll despite having recently amputated his arm, that they thought he was ready for a breakout year.

Posted by: DG28 | April 20, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

When he was drafted, I thought he was supposed to be a 4-3 DT ...

Posted by: dcsween | April 20, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse


I'm just making this shat up as I go along, man. Get with the program!

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 20, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

If you don't know the huge difference in these trades then your a dumba$$ who doesn't know football and I have no time for you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 20, 2010 3:55 PM

You promise? Because I swear your idiocy does feel like it's rubbing off on me. I lose brain cells every time I read your drivel. Let's skip each others posts from now on, deal?
Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Gotta side with flounder on this debate. There is a huge difference in value between a former probowl DE and former probowl QB.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Especially when the D-end was played out of position on the left side, when it was at RDE that he achieved his pro bowl status.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 20, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

If Rams take Suh - trade value of #4 pick just skyrocketed....

Very easy to see Bradford falling to #4...

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Posted by: oldnova | April 20, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

corned beef > ham > baloney

Posted by: 4-12 | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM

carpaccio > corned beef > ham > baloney

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm m&m.

Posted by: scampbell1975

I know.
I think it's just another cynical perspective by someone who isn't informed. The sort of "Oh look, we traded a pick for another bunk player" narrow outlook is being applied too liberally and is based on the mistakes of the previous regime.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

If Bradford falls, the upside is that there will be some team ready to do a nice package deal to move up to #4 to get him. That type of deal will probably be sweeter if Bradford is there than if Suh or Okung or McCoy are there. Cleveland is at 7 and wants a QB. A deal with them that included their 7 overall and their second round pick (assuming they have one) would not be so bad.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 20, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

It would just be nice if our neighborhood inside reporter could discuss his arm, rehab process, extent of injury, did he pass a physical, what kind of shape is he in now, was he at the Rams off season workouts....you know report.

Posted by: patio100 | April 20, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

This is just the start, swapping 5th rounders for a young former 1st rounder? There is something else brewing. you can occasionally get lucky in the later rounds but 28spots in the 5th round? I would have given them the 5th straight up for carriker.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I know.
I think it's just another cynical perspective by someone who isn't informed. The sort of "Oh look, we traded a pick for another bunk player" narrow outlook is being applied too liberally and is based on the mistakes of the previous regime.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise


Gotta say that I had a negative reaction when trade was first reported. The regime hasnt REALLY changed. Snyder's still around...

Posted by: TheSuperhoo | April 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Here is a Theory:

What if our O-line really isnt that bad and under a new scheme they are pretty good.
What if our o-line sucked in Zorn's system of standing still but in Shanahan's system of pulling and moving actually make our o-line better?

Any body think this could be a possibility

Posted by: GreatOne1 | April 20, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

moomoo- If you like carpaccio, you must try this place in Annapolis. Wife and I love it....

http://www.carpacciotuscankitchen.com/

Posted by: 4-12 | April 20, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

this is a 2 career sack player coming off a year on IR and with the label "underachiever" on him.....the main reason we made this trade is because haslett wants some of "his guys" around...pretty common occurrence when coordinators change scenery.

Posted by: divi3 | April 20, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Yes, they are both 33, but I would argue that 33 for a QB is not nearly the concern as 33 for a DE. I'm thinking about Kurt Warner, Bret Favre, Dan Marino, Steve Young, and of course John Elway. All had success at older age. Can you say the same thing about old DE's? None come to mind.

Posted by: ahwolf

McNabb's peers, on average, play about 4 seasons where they are the primary starter, beginning at age 34. The years from 34 on were evenly split between very good years, OK years and not good years.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Rams and Skins aren't done doing business.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

"JReidPost: Hearing more picks might be inovled in #Redskisn-Rams Carriker trade. not high picks, but picks nonetheless. Still checking."


great.

Posted by: TheSuperhoo | April 20, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, with one minor correction. Its not 'high reward' -- its a chance for a 'high reward'. We know he has enough talent to make this a high reward deal.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:19 PM

I'm not sure you completely understand the meaning behind the "low risk high reward" terminology.

Posted by: scampbell1975

I'm sure I understand the terminology, but thanks for checking in

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Assuming this is true....

Does this mean Rams take Suh?

Bradford falls?


Posted by: oldnova | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Per ESPN...

Rams general manager Billy Devaney said Tuesday the team had enough depth at the position to make the deal. He said the draft class was loaded with defensive tackles, and the Rams are expected to re-sign backup Gary Gibson.

Carriker was the 13th overall pick in 2007 out of Nebraska. He missed last season with a shoulder injury. He will be reunited with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, a former Rams coach.

Devaney said the Redskins have been trying to trade for Carriker for a while.

"The signings we've made the past couple of weeks we thought, you know what, this might be the right time to do it," Devaney said. "Right now it seems like we've got a little bit of depth. I hope we do."

Carriker was a 300-pound defensive end at Nebraska, where he was Big 12 defensive player of the year as a senior. He played tackle in a 4-3 alignment with St. Louis but is likely to move outside in the Redskins' 3-4 scheme. Carricker has 53 tackles, including two sacks, in 31 career NFL games.

"He's never complained and we used him in multiple positions," Devaney said. "He did the best he could, but it hasn't been a great scheme for him."

Posted by: oh_boy1 | April 20, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Phew.

in addition, we swap picks in 7th round.

we move up 3 spots.

so not a big deal.

Posted by: TheSuperhoo | April 20, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Yes, they are both 33, but I would argue that 33 for a QB is not nearly the concern as 33 for a DE. I'm thinking about Kurt Warner, Bret Favre, Dan Marino, Steve Young, and of course John Elway. All had success at older age. Can you say the same thing about old DE's? None come to mind.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 20, 2010 4:26 PM

Bruce Smith was 37 when he came to the Skins, and he didn't play that bad for us.

Ultimately the proof will come on the field, but we will all soon find out what happens to a 33 QB behind our O-line.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

DIDN'T MAKE IT UP...

cats got no left arm...way to do your due diligence BA...we got SCREWED in this deal....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

IF def Leppard can have a drummer with one arm we can have DL with one

Posted by: connskins | April 20, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Here is a Theory:

What if our O-line really isnt that bad and under a new scheme they are pretty good.
What if our o-line sucked in Zorn's system of standing still but in Shanahan's system of pulling and moving actually make our o-line better?

Any body think this could be a possibility

Posted by: GreatOne

Yeah, Ive thought of that. I think what we have been hearing out of Shanallen is appropriately the "half-truths" we would associate with pre-draft positioning.

I would agree that the Oline is not as bad as we would tend to believe, but we still don't have sh't for OT's; I think we could live with the OG's we have.
BMW, I think, can become a better-than-average guard with the right coaching.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jtrob_1 | April 20, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, seems like its a pretty good time to go bargain hunting using day 3 picks. sims, Ginn and Carriker all went cheap.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

But what DOES scare me is this may mean the Rams take Suh, Detroit goes with Okung to protect their franchise, TB picks McCoy and Shanahan can't resist Bradford.

Posted by: TheCork | April 20, 2010 4:28 PM

No way, Cork. Carriker wasn't even on the roster last year for St. Louis. You don't need to waste a #1 pick to replace a guy who was on IR. Shoot, if they want someone for IR we can trade them Colt Brennan and swap 4th round picks with them.

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse


Agreed, with one minor correction. Its not 'high reward' -- its a chance for a 'high reward'. We know he has enough talent to make this a high reward deal.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:19 PM

I'm not sure you completely understand the meaning behind the "low risk high reward" terminology.

Posted by: scampbell1975

I'm sure I understand the terminology, but thanks for checking in

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:41 PM |

No I'm sure you don't or you wouldn't have tried to correct the person with the actual meaning. Low risk high reward means their is a low risk with a chance for a high reward. So if you understand what he meant why would you correct him with what he meant?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 20, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

we don't have many picks, and we need players that fit in a 3-4 defense. We didn't lose any picks and gained a player.........WIN!

Posted by: sthai75 | April 20, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

moomoo- If you like carpaccio, you must try this place in Annapolis. Wife and I love it....

http://www.carpacciotuscankitchen.com/

Posted by: 4-12 | April 20, 2010 4:38 PM

lived in Annapolis for many years... but Carpaccio is new since we left, right along the gentrifying West Street corridor. lived in Eastport, and really enjoyed our time there, except for the commute to DC.

personally, my favorite Naptown joint is Joss sushi bar. very good (at least several years ago), not much better outside of Seattle or Vancouver in our experience. raw stuff is tasty!

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Cork and the others-

This trade has nothing to do with the drafting of Suh. Carriker is not a 4-3 DT. He does not fit in well and is not a 4-3 end. Spags likes his DT's to penetrate and wreck havoc and his ends have to be fast (Tuck). Carriker does not fit into either of those. He certainly hasn't lived up to his 13th pick, but if you go back to 2007 when he was playing NT for Hasslett in St. Louis you can see that he was playing well. He was playing a position (end in a 3-4 scheme) that fit his talents. Thats exactly whats going to happen here...Play the run and take up space to allow our LBs to make plays.

Yes the Rams were low on him, partially because of his injury and partially because he didn't have a position for their defense. They couldn't get much else for him and so this was the best option they had.

Losing Carriker for the Rams does not open up a spot for Suh, it simply removes a player that had no spot on their team. They will still take Bradford (if they were going to do so before hand)... this trade does not change their draft plans outside of the 5th round... They know who they are taking #1 and trading Carriker does nothing to alter that.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 20, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

This trade magnifies the tools at Haslett's disposal for the upcoming season. If, as stated by Shanahan, the team is opting for a hybrid 3-4/4-3 front, loading up on versatile linemen will go a long way.

potential 3-4 DEs: Haynesworth, Carriker, Daniels, Alexander, Golston, Jarmon

potential 3-4 NTs: Haynesworth, Kemoeatu, Golston, Montgomery, Peterson, Green, Bryant

potential 4-3 DEs: Orakpo, Carter, Jarmon, Daniels, Alexander, Haynesworth, Wilson

potential 4-3 DTs: Haynesworth, Carriker, Golston, Montgomery, Kemoeatu, Alexander, Daniels, Peterson, Green, Bryant

The combinations are endless. And every one of them has the chance to be effective. A single personnel grouping of Orakpo, Wilson, Haynesworth, Carriker, and Golston could be lined up in so many different ways, the offense would never know where to expect each player. On one down it could be a traditional 3-4 with Wilson coming from the ROLB, Orakpo from LOLB, Golston and Carriker at DE, and Haynesworth at NT -- and the next down could see Orakpo lined up at RDE, Golston and Carriker at DT, Haynesworth at LDE, and Wilson as a stand-up SLB.

I can see why Shanahan wanted to tweak the defense.

Posted by: psps23 | April 20, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Can't help but be amused that the Redskins are going out of their way to give ESPN, CSN, and other sports news outlets scoops before the Post can get them. This isn't anything new, but maybe should give the Post some pause and re-evaluate how they treat the Redskins in their sometimes one-sided coverage.

Of course, as most of us know, the coverage will never be as slanted as it was during the La Canfora era. That was just venomous anti-Redskins agenda driven reports...day in, day out.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 20, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

IF def Leppard can have a drummer with one arm we can have DL with one

Posted by: connskins

What has nine arms and sucks?

Posted by: DG28 | April 20, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

This trade has ZERO impact on what the Rams will do at the top of the draft. ZERO.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

This trade has ZERO impact on what the Rams will do at the top of the draft. ZERO.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 4:53 PM |

This we agree on.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 20, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

What has nine arms and sucks?

Posted by: DG28 | April 20, 2010 4:52 PM

a mutant FRAKKEN?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: jtrob_1 | April 20, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Why not? Given what little we gave up for a relatively young player whom Haslett is familiar with from his days with the Rams and obviously believes is useful, I don't see how anyone can rip this trade.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 20, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

But what DOES scare me is this may mean the Rams take Suh, Detroit goes with Okung to protect their franchise, TB picks McCoy and Shanahan can't resist Bradford
Posted by: TheCork

Good point. They haven't negotiated a contract with Bradford yet have they? If I were to bet, I would still say they take Bradford at 1 but they are still positioning to entertain trading down. However, even if they were to take suh or mccoy, and bradford fell to us, I am fairly sure there are plenty of teams that want bradford badly.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 20, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

must lay off for now and attend to the herd... 55 gallons is too much. fallow fields await plowing on Thursday.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Who's there QB if the Rams pass yet again on a potential franchise QB? They are not unless of course they trade for let's say JC17.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 20, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

If Bradford falls, Skins will pick him...

Posted by: BT23 | April 20, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Just give me some guys who are motivated to get the job done. I'll take anyone who's willing to work over the big talent big head. Y'know, I think I hear drums...and horns...
Shoulder to shoulder
And bolder and bolder
They grow as they go to the fore
Then there's nothing in the world
Can stall or halt a plan
When stout-hearted men
Can stick together man to man

Posted by: kls1 | April 20, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

JLC broke stories, Reid copies and pastes stories

Posted by: DMoney28 | April 20, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Why do I think the Rams were going to just waive Carriker in about two weeks?

Swapping fifths ain't much but it's more than I think the Rams thought they'd get.

Which was nada.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 20, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Joss sushi bar
Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 20, 2010 4:47 PM

Joss is the shizznit. A little cramped but always worth the trip.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 20, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Smith was 37 when he came to the Skins, and he didn't play that bad for us.

Ultimately the proof will come on the field, but we will all soon find out what happens to a 33 QB behind our O-line.


Posted by: Alan4 | April 20, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking that, between the draft, free agents they've already signed and may yet sign, and possible trades, "our O-line" won't be our O-line by training camp.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 20, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS 2010 NFL SCHEDULE

1: Dal (SNF)
2: Hou
3: @StL
4: @ Phi
5: GB
6: Ind (SNF)
7: @Chi
8: @Det
9: BYE
10: Phi (MNF)
11: @TEN
12: MIN
13: @NYG
14: TB
15: @DAL
16: @JAX
17: NYG

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 20, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

If I'm the Rams, I don't draft Bradford unless I have a deal in place. Thing is, Bradford could go into draft free fall if he doesn't sign.

The next several teams have dealt with with their QB issue. Cleveland at #7 overall would be the most likely team to snap him up if StL doesn't. Big payday difference between 1 and 7.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 20, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

BAD trade for skins. This guy not only has ONE arm, he's got a few cavities he still needs to take care of and some serious carriker flaws.

Ask League-Source why they call him "Under Achiever"

According to LS, this guy brings his A Game once mounted. (LS says it seems to help when you bite his back.)

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 20, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I think I approve of this trade. To paraphrase zeke, I'd characterize it as "low risk, with chance of moderate reward."

I know it's a side effect of the constant stab-in-the-dark guesswork and outright fabrication (*cough* Beantown *cough*) which together comprise about 97% of the internets, but I can't shake the feeling that the other cleat's about to drop... like, a really big trade...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 20, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Redskins trade for Carriker, shocked at his appearance
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 4:20 PM ET
The Washington Redskins have swapped places with the St. Louis Rams in the 5th round of the 2010 draft in addition the Redskins have gotten defensive tackle Adam Carriker. When Carriker showed up at team headquarters they were shocked to find out that Carriker had his left arm amputated after suffering a severe shoulder injury last year. Suffice to say, the Redskins are looking into their options at this time.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 20, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse
_________
Redskins appoint new general manager
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 20, 2010 5:20 PM ET
The Washington Redskins announced today that, in a shocking move, general manager Bruce Allen has resigned, and in his place, the team has hired a blogger who goes by the name "BeantownGreg1". Beantown, in his first remarks to the media, said, "I have no experience, but I surely know how to run a team better than that idiot Vinny Cerrato. And one thing's for sure, there'll be no more bogus rumors leaked to PFT for people to cut and paste all over the net on my watch. Go Skins."

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 20, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 20, 2010 5:21 PM

ROFLMFAO

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 20, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

If Bradford falls I think the Skins should pick him. In a couple of years under Shanny, Kyle, and Donovan McNabb, he could be great. However, we need a LT. We may even need a FS. I just can't wait until Draft day comes, so all these rumors and smokescreens can be revealed.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 20, 2010 5:16 PM

Are you the same "Thinker_" halfwit who was up here posting Saturday night that the Caps were a bunch of chokers? I mean, didn't they win the game 5-4 in OT? Is that what you mean by "choking"?

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I think Carriker, can get his career started up here in Washington. Sometimes a good player gets drafted high, into a bad scheme or a bad team. In Carrikers case, he was drafted for Hasslets system. With the coach change, Carriker didn't fit Spagz system. So I think he can be a legit run stopper 3-4 D End. The guy can play, if given the chance.

Posted by: roccoskins | April 20, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Now hes posting some hom erotic stuff about you.
Get him LS

Posted by: DG28 | April 20, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Can't see Rams passing up on Bradford.. after already passing up on Ryan and Sanchez unless they want St Louis fans to kick them out of town and back to LA.. Like Carriker pickup.. another reason to trade Hanyesworth..

Posted by: sovine08 | April 20, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Rocco

I think this year we see alot of old and new redskins that will be coached up beyond what they had previosly shown. And alot of multiple formations and schemes.

In particular I'm looking at Maake Carriker, Heyer, Devin Thomas, Landry

Posted by: DG28 | April 20, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

A swap a few spots down in the 5th and a few spots up in the 7th is not bad at all for a potential starter. It's a net zero in terms of draft picks...I actually like this move and feel more comfortable with it than the McNabb trade.

Posted by: DocHolliday1906 | April 20, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I know it's a side effect of the constant stab-in-the-dark guesswork and outright fabrication (*cough* Beantown *cough*) which together comprise about 97% of the internets, but I can't shake the feeling that the other cleat's about to drop... like, a really big trade...

Posted by: NateinthePDX
_____________

I agree... I'm getting this sneaking suspicion that the Skins are going to take Bradford, and through other moves - likely including JC and AH - also draft an LT somewhere in the late first or top 2nd round.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 20, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

And then we'll sign the Hotel next week for RT...

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 20, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Good trade !!!!!!

Posted by: dashriprock | April 20, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Got hustled again!

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 20, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

beeps - new post

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 20, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 20, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad trade we didn't lose anything and picked up a former 1st rounder. I would like to see us get sean lee LB PSU if avaliable in later road. puts me in the mind of Sean Taylor(RIP) the way he likes to punish people.

Posted by: bert3 | April 20, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Are you the same "Thinker_" halfwit who was up here posting Saturday night that the Caps were a bunch of chokers? I mean, didn't they win the game 5-4 in OT? Is that what you mean by "choking"?

Posted by: League-Source | April 20, 2010 5:37 PM
...............................................

Yes. Yes I am. One and the same. And I don't apologize for calling them chokers. I'm glad they finally played like a #1 seed last night, too.

And believe me, it really took a lot of restraint not to blast you with a bunch of homophobic cracks about "choking."

(like the way you like to suspend yourself in the closet (ala David Carradine) to get your "choke" on, rather than the Caps' method, who prefer to do it by losing 6-2 against the Penguins in a game 7 at home)

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 20, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

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