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Randy To Have Surgery Wed.

Not looking good for Thomas. Gibbs says it's a significant enough tear of the triceps to need surgery. They won't know the exactly length of his absnece until after the procedure, but it's certainly looking long-term if not season ending.

Gibbs says that Fabini will be the starter for now. I hear they are bringing in at least 3 linemen. Vincent and Rick DeMulling - former Lion and Colt - are two of them, league sources said. The other may be Zach Pillar - do not have that confirmed at all but they did flirt with him this offseason - but they definitely told people they were looking for veteran guys with starting experience.

May the best man win.

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 18, 2007; 5:30 PM ET
 
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all undergarments except granny panties

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

HTTR Redskins!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

FYI

Posted by: First again | September 18, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update, Jason! Good work on the articles and stuff. Keep it up, brother.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 18, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

HTTR Redskins? I like the spirit, but isn't it a bit redundant?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 18, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

lingere

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

LONG FALL for Pucillo? That near injury to Jason Campbell really put him down deep in the depth chart?

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

At this stage of the game, go with
a lineman that is knowledgeable with
the offense.

Posted by: XTS | September 18, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

sexy moutons.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Hoping for a speedy recovery for Randy Thomas, an outstanding player and person.

Posted by: mjwies11, D.C. | September 18, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Fabini is a tackle. Pucillo is a guard.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jasno--no Tuesday Morning H-Back?????
Hopefully they can bring someone in this week and if they feel they are a better player than Fabini--then they will have the bye week to prepare them for the Lions. I did think Fabini and Wade asserted themselves pretty well last night.

Posted by: PSUAsh | September 18, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Who is Heyer going to room with on the road now?

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Did Vincent play with Rabach? Do they have any chemistry there?

Maybe we're good with ex Ravens the way we're good with Jetskins. Kendall and Thomas, meet Rabach and Vincent.

Hail.

Posted by: Bryan | September 18, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Wade is a starting tackle. Fabini used to be a starting tackle. They need a guard. Fabini was good on pass protection after the initial gaffe. Not so good on the rush.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

sure looked like fabini was a guard there last night, percolator. but hey, priest is a wr, right.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

From Jansen to Wade is a modest change. Jansen was no longer Pro Bowl level, may even have been our weakest starter at the start of the season ... which is also a compliment to the other guys on the line. Wade is certainly starting material.

From Thomas to Fabinin is a huge change ... Thomas may have been our best lineman. This one really hurts. Glad the Skins front office did a lot of things right in the offseason and got a little cap room. It may be a difference maker. See who comes in and how they play. Or hope Fabini is an overachiever ... because this is his shot.

Posted by: AL | September 18, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Best wishes to Randy Thomas, couple of tough injuries in recent years

Posted by: AL | September 18, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I would feel a LOT worse about this situation but for Joseph Aloysius Bugel. He can turn these lemons into lemonade. Yes he can.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 18, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Nate, Doc Walker was saying the same thing this morning.....that if the player has the talent, desire, and work ethic, Buges can work with him.

Posted by: Lisa | September 18, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Aloysius . . . Seriously?

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 18, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Fabini is a stop gap measure. He was rough in pre-season. We need a real Hog.

Buges is good, but he can't change a boot into a banana.

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I am hoping Fabini can step it up, I didn't really notice any kind of problems when he was in there last night.

And I know this has been talked about, but it is my first chance to post. Carlos Rogers was great last night, dare I say it was his break through game. A Monday Night coming out party!!

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 18, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

A new Gibbsism: On ch.4- He's "super pleased" with where JC is in his development.

I'd like that order "super pleased". With cackle.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 18, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Offensive line dynamics are interesting. I think an O-line is measured best by looking at its weakest link. A great tackle next to a mediocre guard isn't nearly as good as a good tackle playing next to a good guard. I refined it a little bit for the best way to look at a line against a specific opponent. Look at each matchup and the matchup where the o-lineman is the weakest compared to the d lineman he is to block is the issue.

On opening day, the Skins had no obvious weak link. And with Wade filling in for Jansen, still no obvious weak link. So no defensive line could overwhelm the Skins without the very best lineman in the biz. Go back to the playoffs without Thomas a couple years ago ... RG was the weak link that stalled the offense.

Now the o-line depth that I and many others worried about ... and wondered why we didn't draft for ... is showing up. We now have a genuine weak link and a strong DT can exploit it. Lets hope the front office ... which has made some pretty solid moves this offseason, comes thru. Or that we have someone on the roster who is much more than we imagined.

Posted by: AL | September 18, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Buges is good, but he can't change a boot into a banana.

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 05:54 PM

MMMMmmmmmmm!!! Banana boots!!!!!

Posted by: Homer Simpson | September 18, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Gutted that Randy is hurt. He and Samuels are our best lineman and this definitely hurts more than losing Jansen. I'd worry about going with Fabini for the rest of the season but I don't want us to bring someone in just for the sake of it. They have to be better than Fabini.

Just gutted we've lost Randy.

Anyway - we're 2 and Oh!!! HTTR

Posted by: Gordi | September 18, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Homer,
You're missing the point, with Miss SC and Priest Holmes starting in the depth charge, there's no way that maps can help the kids in Iraq, no matter what the FO does, so Buges makes concrete boots for Lloyd, Brandon and is super-pleased with Reche. You're such a Homer Homer. So Heyers to ya.

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm still remaining optimistic about this whole thing. I've heard that guard is the easiest position to learn/fill. I guess we're saving Heyer just in case Samuels or Wade goes down.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

After searching the intergoogle, Vincent definitely appears to be the best of the 3 options.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

4-12 - Sorry mate, I had a look back at my gentle ribbing this morning, only to find it didn't really come across all that gentle!

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't think we need "Tuesday Morning H-Back" this week. It seems like the blogging group has covered most of the points completely and concisely. Let Jasno have the day off, rather than listen to another week of:

1) League insiders tell me that having Heyer on the bench is a severe liability.
2) Jason Campbell made too many mistakes.
3) Portis had another sub-par game after sitting out the pre-season.
4) The O-Line isn't deep enough and the D-Line isn't good enough, with too many old guys.
5) The Redskins would be better if they had more draft picks.
6) The Ravens have a superior FO.

Been there; done that. Thanks, but no thanks!

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

John Riggins show is currently being broadcast.
Whoever is with John now; Kevin maybe?
Not sure, but he just said, "You are not gonna say it, but I believe we can go 16-0".

I waited for him to laugh or reveal his sarcasm, but he did not. Riggo then said, "Well, I'll let you say it" but of course Riggo knew he was absolutely ignorant and caught up in the emotion to suggest this team could go 16-0.
Folks look at the margin of victory in the two Patriots wins and then our two wins.
We could be 0-2 folks...

HTTR!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Kost- No worries mate. You kicked my arse! I'm just 'super pleased' that the 'Skins are 2-0!!!!!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 18, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I do like the idea of Whitticker though, when we cut him I sort of got the impression it was only a temporary thing. I think initially he was Plan B if the Wade/Guard experiment failed. Then he had to go and get injured.

The advantage with him is that he knows the offense, and we know Buges likes him.

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Ray Brown. He is well rested.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought on the upcoming Patriots game, for all you doomsayers -

Remember how bad the Skins sucked last year and then how well they played at New Orleans?

I'm not saying - just don't put the game in the loss column before it's played. Gibbs and his staff know how to game plan. He doesn't have three rings because he was just lucky.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray - What's your point? The Patriots give up more points per game than we do? So we've got a better defense than the Pats? It's good to see you being positive!

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

So far the Pats have beat the subpar Jets while cheating and the Chargers who have 50 new coaches and not to mention Norv Turner. I'm not crowning their arses yet.

F the Pats!

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's early, but I'm thinking that the Redskins have some positions to zero in on next year's draft. My predictions:

1st- O-Lineman, whoever is best available
2nd- WR, James Hardy, Indiana (or another tall deep threat)
3rd- FB, Owen Schimitt, West Virginia (a bruising blocker and definitely a possible heir to Mike "The Mack" Sellers down the road)
4th- taken by Kendall, right?
5th- D-Lineman, whoever is best available
6th- QB, best available
7th- O-Lineman, whoever is best available

I'm calling for OL, WR, FB, DL, QB, and OL, with undrafted signings of WRs, OL, and DL. Secondary looks good for now, maybe some free agency depth will do nicely.

Yes, this is all silly. Yes, I'm doing this for fun and to kill time until we start gabbing about the Gints. Anyone else wanna take part in the charada?

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

It's a long season. They will probably bring back Whittiker closer to the bye week or thereafter. He can learn more as a backup or on the P.S. and be ready in case another guard goes down later.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm looking forward to St. Joe/Weird Al vs. Belicheck's defense. That should be very interesting to watch. You know Belicheck is going to try and confuse the heck out of JC.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

bigfish,
I'm with you...F the Pats. For so many years they sucked, the worst of the worst. F em!

If someone thinks they can beat the Skins, they should have to prove it. The won't get the benefit of the doubt from me.

If I'm a player, should I go into that game thinking, oh, we're bound to lose that one, because the Patriot beat everybody...No!

Was it over when the Germand bombed Pearl Harbor? No. It's not over till we say its over.

F the Patsies

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

TDawg -

The 4th is gone via Duckett. I think the pick we lose for Kendall is the following year.

I reckon we'd probably look for a DE a bit earlier than the 5th Round.

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

So Tank Johnson joins the long list of Dallas Cowboy Criminals:


Lance Rentzel (indecent exposure to a 10 year old girl)
Rafael Septien (indecency with a child)
Hollywood Henderson
Victor Scott
Kevin Gogan
Michael Irvin
Erik Williams
Leon Lett
Barry Switzer
Nate Newton
Dimitrius Underwood
Ralph Coleman
Quincy Carter
Dwayne Goodrich
Wade Wilson
Tank Johnson

Am I missing any? I guess we could include the non-convicted a-holes like:

Jerry Jones
Dieon
Parcells
Keyshawn
TO

Posted by: Diesel | September 18, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Hello Kost52
Not trying to be negative...
I did finish w/ HTTR!

My point was Riggo saw how ignorant it was for the other guy to suggest we could go 16-0!

And it is not negative to say we could easily be 0-2, because we could be.
But there is no way the Pats could be even 1-1 after their first two games.

Of course I want the Skins to win it all, but I am not a naive simpleton that believes and gets on Radio at 2-0 and says we could go 16-0!

You are a reactionary who knee jerked to the other extreme declaring I am negative.
Not at all, and I am hoping we are back!

HTTR

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Aye, kost-- maybe in the 3rd round and hope that Schmidt is around in the 5th!

That guy is probably the only fella I've seen that has Sellers' potential. I'm serious.

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Diesel - Deion has been in trouble also. A mans gotta fish though.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/deionmugshot1.html

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, TDawg - it will look like this:

1st round: CB or DE (best available at the time; need one of each in first two rounds)

2nd round: CB or DE

3rd round: Offensive Line (highest need position)

4th round - no pick (Duckett trade; Kendall pick will be in 2009)

5th, 6th, 7th rounds - more O- and D-Line depth, maybe a project quarterback

Backup QB need is less critical, as there will be lots of available FA QBs (McCown, McNown, McClown, McFrown) that no one wants next year, as young QBs take starting and backup slots elsewhere (Oakland, KC, Atlanta, Tampa, etc.). Redskins can get a project QB late or undrafted because JC will be around a very log time, assuming he stays healthy.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

It's a long season. They will probably bring back Whittiker closer to the bye week or thereafter. He can learn more as a backup or on the P.S. and be ready in case another guard goes down later.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 06:36 PM

I like Whittiker, but didn't they bring in Fabini from the Cowgirls, cause they let Whittiker go.

Jason CanPickGuardforya has got the right guy.

SIGN KEYDRICK VINCENT!

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Our back-up QB next year - Ron Mexico. jk.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Whittiker was injured and released on an injury settlement - otherwise Fabini would have been selling cell phones by now.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Ron Mexico will be playing in the Cowboys Prison Developmental League next year.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

TM,
Your order is more probable than mine; I'm definitely wishful thinking, but I think that we should be shooting for a stud possesion receiver in the 2nd or 3rd round to solidify our receiving corps. I think it could go a long way.

Definitely a stud FB to start developing into the next Sellers is also a smart move, IMHO.

But I have to say-- we need o-line depth badly... hopefully we'll pick up some depth in free agency (on both sides of the line), but we should try to draft well at those positions and look for Bugel to polish a diamond instead of a turd.

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Something I just realized (food for thought):

The Iggles need a wide receiver. Badly.

We hate one of ours: Lloyd, Brandon, The (supposed) wide receiver.

Does someone smell a 4th rounder next year?

Discuss.

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Backup QB is not a draft issue. There will be decent backups available. Even Patrick Ramsey was a decent backup. Culpepper, Leftwich, etc are QB's that have come on the market for cheap. And the two we have now, Brunell and Collins, might be good enough for a while longer. Nope, don't need to draft backup QB project ... even though they did this year. Why, I don't know!!!!

Posted by: AL | September 18, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Yup, trade Lloyd to Philly for a 4th round pick. I think the 76ers would agree to that ... just not the Eagles ....

Posted by: AL | September 18, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that we don't have a 4th rounder next year to give to the Eagles to take Lloyd.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that we don't have a 4th rounder next year to give to the Eagles to take Lloyd.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 07:02 PM

LOL.

But c'mon though-- given how cruddy they're receivers are now, you don't think they'd bite if we dangled Lloyd, especially as a conference foe?

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

From Jason's story, which will go up shortly:

"It's got to be surgically repaired," Gibbs said, adding that the triceps "came off the bone." Bubba Tyer, Washington's director of sports medicine, said the injury is significant and that Thomas will have to wear a cast or splint on his arm for at least six weeks.

Posted by: Cindy | September 18, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

hahahaha bigfish haha

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 18, 2007 7:07 PM | Report abuse

But c'mon though-- given how cruddy they're receivers are now, you don't think they'd bite if we dangled Lloyd, especially as a conference foe?

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 07:05 PM

I don't know about you but I'd take Brown, Baskett or Curtis over Lloyd right now.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

ouch! ouch! ouwee!

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

"adding that the triceps "came off the bone.""

Ummm - Just like a good rack of ribs.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

TDawg...I would be paranoid of trading a player with intimate knowledge of the offensive playbook to a division rival (I said knowledge, not ability to execute on the field).

And Receiver, The, in no way justifies a 4th rounder.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 18, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

TD -

Rounds 3 & 4 are good spots to pick up quality O-Line prospects, so that is where I expect they will be targeted. If all the other needs were equal, they might go for a 1st round O-Lineman, but CB and DE are the highest needs. (DE is sorely lacking - Daniels is done after this year; starting rotation CBs are getting old as a group except for Carlos)

As for WR, the Lloyd signing was a good indicator; WR is a tough spot to draft and get a guaranteed return. I expect the Skins to get another WR via FA next year, much like the Pats did this year with Moss and Welker and company. Getting rid of Lloyd after the season as a post-June 1 designated cut will move a chunk of his cap hit into 2009, leaving cap room to sign a FA WR.

Finding real talent in the draft is the key. The Redskins should go back to doing their own private scouting and stop depending on the scouting combine. What the Ravens do reliably well with their scouting group is find higher quality in the middle and late rounds. The Skins need to do that better to help with the depth issues at O-Line and D-Line.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I agree, TM. That's what I've done for them, if they'd read the blog!

2 great college players, look 'em up or watch their highlight reels yourselves:

James Hardy, Indiana (6'7", 215 lbs.)
Owen Schmidtt, West Virginia

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

TM - The Redskin do bring in prospects and work them out in Ashburn. Every team does it the same. There are rules to scouting in the NFL. The Ravens can't/aren't allowed to do anything that we can't/don't do.

F the Ravens!
F the Pats!

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray - Fair enough you gave a HTTR.

My point is that we've played 2 games, the best possible result we can get is to be 2-0, which is what we are. You don't get bonus points for big scores, or big margins, I'm pretty sure they don't even count when it comes to tie breakers.


If you're saying we still need to improve to be able to compete with the powerhouse teams, I agree. But I think it's silly to say we COULD easily be 0-2, we ARE 2-0.

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Sick im, kost.

Posted by: TDawg | September 18, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

2-0! Woo! I can't believe I had to actually work today and teach and stuff. But made it a nice day to walk in after a good game.

I have few original thoughts to add to everything that's been said but I'm gonna add them anyway.

1. Dead horse - ESPN coverage sucks. Jaws is the best guy around to break down the game and really let the average fan understand. But last night holy shti! I know I'm a homer but here's the thing it was a decent game and some good stuff was happening so why not cover it? The 3rd quarter was a lost quarter in terms of viewing. Does showing replays cost extra $ cause I've noticed when we have the Fox Z team for tv coverage frequently things aren't replayed. Will give props to TK who did that awesome hommage to St. Joe at the beginning and hit home that what he did in the 80s he did without a Montana or Elway or Aikman.

2. I said this last night I'm going to repeat. Soups has a remarkable arm and touch. When he throws it well he puts in a place only our guys can get. Haven't seen it in the burgundy and gold since Rypien. Brunell had the long ball a few times (Dallas game!) but it was labored and to some extent hurled. Then his dinks and dunks looked pedestrian. I know I'm so biased but watching Soups gave me goose bumps. Banks at SI.com and Pasquerlli and Wise and others all noted him too which leads me to believe I'm not looking through the Kool Aid glass.

3. Double Move had a good game. Totally agree. Looked like he was playing with confidence and with his head on rather than trying to play catch up.

4. Call to Moss for TD was awesome! Why? Cause it meant we were going for the kill. Cause it meant the coaching staff had the confidence in the 4th that they didn't have at the end of the first half with the initial FG call. We were up and up by enough that it showed confidence in our defense and why not go for the kill shot?

5. Hear hear! Giants is absolutely a trap game. And I think St. Joe knows it. His presser said it all. He's obviously thrilled at the outcomes but sees there is a lot of work to do. No division game is a gimme. Remember when Cowpaddies when 1-15? Remember who was the 1?

But I'll tell you what for the first time in years I feel honest to gawd excited and good and for lack of a better word solid about the Skins.
2006 - I felt vaguely surprised when we made the playoffs and didn't really think we'd go all the way.
Marty ball - felt okay but the sinking feeling never went away.
Norville's playoff - again we made? Yay! Wait really we made it?

Haven't felt this way about this team since 1991 when we ended teh 90 season with 5 wins and no one saw us coming.

Okay enough I ramble because I am so happy.

Posted by: sfskin | September 18, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh and hey Insiders a big thank you to all of youse guys.

A#1 "watching" the game with you is super fun

B#2 - I think Nate said it a while ago but this blog and it's denizens have really made me a better fan and the games even more fun to watch.

So THANKS! and HAIL!

Posted by: sfskin | September 18, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Probably already said in an earlier post, but I liked seeing the WOW (week over week) improvement. Really, other than avoiding key injuries, there is no other means by which to judge a team: Do they get better through the season? If every week brings improvement, thenwe have a good chance in the post-season. Don't forget there have been many teams that come out of the gate like gangbusters only to peter out as the season goes along because everybody else improves and they remain stagnant.
We improved WOW. That is good. It's what good teams do. And scouting seems to have players to plug into an injured O-line, I hope.

Posted by: Neil in Durango | September 18, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I think the Gints game is a possible trap too! I want to be 6-0 before we start that stretch where we play the Jets, Pats, Eagles, Cowgirls (I think that's the right order) 3 of 4 of those are away. I'll take 5-1, but I wanna be 6-0. All of the teams we play before that stretch are beatable, but you can never predict the nfl and that's what makes it awesome!!! HAIL!!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 18, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

It's not a trap. The Gints really are that awful.

Posted by: Cindy | September 18, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

your prolly right, but we cant take the lions, pack, or cardinals lightly, and I dont think that Gibbs will let them

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 18, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

We're going to have BOGO super-conscientiously in order to beat the Giants. Any word on whether it's LBM or J-Load?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

OK Kost52
We both love our Skins
We are both tickled that we are 2-0
and we both think the guy on the radio w/ Riggo was an idiot for saying we could go 16-0

HTTR and kick some Giant butt this Sunday!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

The Lions stink. I watched a bunch of their game this weekend, and they are horrible. The Cardinals are scary because, as we all know, Russ Grimm knows where all of St. Joe's bodies are buried.

Actually, come to think of it, maybe they could suit Russ up for Randy Thomas...

I think the Packers are absolutely a legitimate team. Favre's swan song? Yikes.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

kost and Ray should have a drinking contest. My money's always on the Aussie.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray - Well said mate.

Go Skins!

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I was very pleased to see them get the ball to Sellers the past 2 games, that was something they did not try to do on a consistent basis last year. I think that they should try to get him involved in the passing game for short yardage more though, he will beat up on anybody he meets in the open field.

HTTR

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 18, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

A woman sitting in an Adelaide restaurant suddenly began to cough.

After a few seconds it became apparent that she was in real distress and
two locals, Brian and Bruce who were sitting at the next table, turned to
look at her.

"Can ya swaller ?" asked Bruce.

The woman signalled NO !!, desperately shaking her head.

"Can ya breave ?" asked Brian.

The woman shook her head NO !!.

With that, Bruce calmly walked behind her, lifted up the back of her dress,
yanked down her knickers and ran his tongue up and down the crack of her bum.

This shocked the woman into such violent spasm that the obstruction flew
out of her mouth. This was followed by an almighty scream and she began to
breathe again.

Bruce swaggered back to his table and took a deep swig of his beer.

Brian, in total admiration of his mate, said: "Ya know Bruce, I've heard
of that bloody Hind-Lick Manoeuvre but that's the first time I've ever seen
somebody do it !"

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

bigfish -

The scouting combine that the Redskins subscribe to is employed by around 25 teams, so all teams get the same reports on college prospects, whether those reports are accurate or not. The combine tends to focus on the large 1-A "football factory" schools as well as "name" players, and often miss the hidden gems who are out there playing for smaller 1-A schools and the other NCAA divisions.

The Ravens and several other teams do not subscribe to the combine and do all of their own scouting. They scout specifically according to the needs of their own organization and see every player they are interested in personally, generally months before the February combine get-together in Indianapolis. This independent scouting process has yielded many good players who were not on the combine's radar.

The Redskins could do this also, but choose to subscribe to the scouting combine instead. The result is mid- and late-round draft choice mediocrity, with most of the choices being 2nd and 3rd round players from big schools.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Iggles Injrys
Area 51 effect.

http://redskins.scout.com/a.z?s=71&p=2&c=681168

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Hind-Lick maneuver!!!


LMGO!!!

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the explanation there TM. I am not familiar with this "combine". Sounds like team employed scouts to me. I think the bigger problem here is that the Ravens have Ozzie and we have bug eyes and Napolean.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know a team that needs a decent cornerback?

The Cowboys had to release a player in order to sign Tank Johnson and make the cut-off 53 man roster. Once Johnson is on the roster for 24 hours, he goes on the suspended/inactive list, and the Cowboys can sign someone else.

The Cowboys cut cornerback Nate Jones. Jones is the dime cornerback for the Cowboys and saw significant action in both games 1 and 2.

If a team needed a decent corner, or just wanted to wreck the Cowboys dime package, they'd pick up Jones in the next 24. After that, chances are, he'll be re-signed by the Cowboys.

After last week's performance, couldn't Cincinnati use some new blood in their secondary?

Posted by: mugamack | September 18, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Is Vinny working for the Cowboys now or something? First of all Tank can't practice or play until week 10. Second - He has never played nose tackle in a 3-4 defense and may lack the size to do so. Oh well - maybe their defense will suck it up even more.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy - I want to take this opportunity to commend and praise you for your recent posts. Ever since those anon's blasted you a week ago, you have been smart, witty, knowldegable and back to basics (football). Maybe it's a coincidence, but I just wanted to point this out. Thanks.

Posted by: Thomas, Jr. | September 18, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I mentioned it last night, but are any of you guys interested in Antonio Bryant now that his ban has been lifted?

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see Gibbs hugging Carlos Rogers after the game last night? Priceless.

Posted by: Lisa | September 18, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

kost - Bryant may be a good pick up for someone else but with the recent injuries I'm not sure that we should exhaust our cap room on yet another receiver. Plus the whole ex-49er receiver thing has left a bad taste in our mouths. I think he may have a shot at doing well for another team though.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

If Carlos has another game like he did last night then we will have to give him a new nickname.

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Why do the sorry SJK Nats have to wait until now to show up for the season? GO METS!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

4 errors by mets yesterday didn't help

Posted by: nah | September 18, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

bigfish - Good point, must be something about WR's in SF. See their big signing, Ashley Lelie is their #4 WR, and can't get on the field!

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry, I'm still capable of being as off topic as possible. But we are in-season now, so, you know, there's actually something to talk about. I could give two SJKs about the anon haters.

All of that said, there really is nothing like leftover Oreo Pizza to make you want to crawl right back into bed and suffer your hangover like a man.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

"Ya know Bruce, I've heard
of that bloody Hind-Lick Manoeuvre but that's the first time I've ever seen
somebody do it !"
##########################################

Laughing hysterically
Winning allows us to laugh and have fun

HTTR!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

CB Nate Jones of Dallas?
The Giants should sign Nate Jones.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

someone help me out
What is this SJK?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Bryant was originally a Cowboy anyway. You don't want that do you? Remember Parcells traded him because he whipped a sweaty t-shirt at Parcells' fat azz.

Posted by: SMACK | September 18, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"What is this SJK?"

Sorry Jack's Kids. Saying something with adult content.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Skipped salsa class to nurse my hangover, and that got me thinking for a sec...

...Jason Campbell vs. Tony Romo for the next 10 years. Pretty cool, huh? Consistency at QB and head coach are critical if the NFC East is going to make a resurgence. I don't expect St. Joe to coach beyond his contract, and Wade Philips looks like a short-timer. Coughlin is good as gone. Andy Reid may coach up there forever, but McNabb appears to be on the decline.

But JC vs. Romo? That's just awesome for football fans...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone considered posting an "urban dictionary" of RI terms (SJK, Jasno, ITA, The Receiver, Area 51, etc)?

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Think Romo will last for ten years?

Romo=Aikman; L2=Lavar

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

The Giants are a "trap". They are NFC east rivals. They aren't going to play the patsy when they get to FEDEX.

At this point forget 6-0. Try to find a way to get to 3-0 with a bye week coming up. Then its time to figure out what to do with O-line for the rest of the season. To work out the wide receiver issue. Thrash was lining up for Brandon for the most part. He got in when Randle El got cramps. They need to decide what they are going to do. The rotation between Portis and Betts really isn't working. Neither is getting into a "groove" or rhythm. At times Sellers looked better going up the middle.

On defense they have not been blitzing. They've been playing more of a Petitbone defense. Wonder if Gibbs is behind that? He did say he would be working on defense this offseason? Rocky Mac and Fletcher have looked good. Time to work Godfrey in for Washington until his elbow heals. Safeties are still tentative at times. Corners are still getting beat ... with the exception of Springs. If they had a real receiver out there in Philly things might have been different. Detroit is going to come in after the bye week with a 4 wide receiver set featuring Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson speed burning on the outside and Furrey and McDonald working the middle. Got to be the best receiving corps in the league. Kitna must be in heaven slinging balls to them.

JACK, let's see wait to see what happens in the Detroit game before you start touting DE's in the draft. Let's see how your "deep corners" do in that game. Springs will only be able to cover one and that will likely be Williams. McDonald and Furrey will be catching most of the balls. Smoot and Macklin covering. Then Carlos gets Johnson. Detroit is going to be a real test for the defense. Millen finally has a really dangerous offense up there. Given the number of times Gibbs and the Skins have humiliated the Lions I am sure they will be itching for some revenge.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, you make a good point about rhomo and campbell. Living in texass now, and got teamed up with this dude in a golf tourney, and i asked him who his team is(cowgirls of course) and i made some wisecrack about em, and tell him i root for his rival, and the guy thought I was a niners fan! sjk the cowboys!

Posted by: nah | September 18, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

and is there a term for the double words that show up in some posts?????

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I love football...I hope Romo is there for a long, long time. Games like last night's are just awesome. Games like last year's make me want to vomit. Cowboys vs. 'Skins playing meaningful games every year just like the old days, that's the kind of stuff we fans drool over.

That said, I hope L2 pounds him into the turf. The hit last night to win the game was unreal.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm just reading through the comments posted during the game. I love sfskin's BINGO song! And then there's this gem-

Somehow, some way, that pick was Fabini's fault.

Posted by: SMACK | September 17, 2007 09:30 PM

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy - JC vs. Romo - never really thought about it like that but you're right! A continuing battle between two quarterbacks about the same age in the same division. Not to mention the rivalry that already exists between the two teams. Could be epic!

Posted by: mmok | September 18, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

It'll be interesting to compare the long term contracts these guys get, how the negotiations go, whether the franchise tag is involved for either.

If Romo throws 4 TDs against the Bears, I hope we send him to the drive-thru lane with a check for about $20 mil.

Posted by: SMACK | September 18, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

At this point forget 6-0. Try to find a way to get to 3-0 with a bye week coming up.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You said it Periculum!
This talk of 6-0 is stupid, not as dumb as the guys with Riggio tonight talking 16-0, but yet stupid!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

And Jack if da Reaper and Landry aren't looking Detroit's premier tight end Dan Campbell could split the seams ....

Let's see what happens in that game. But first they have to get to through the Giants and regroup as if they are 0-3 at they bye. Because offensively they aren't hitting on even half the cylinders they need and defensively they still have some kinks to work out.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree diddy. I hope Romo is around for a while too. Although not as good as JC. And I would like to see L2 or Reaper put him out just like Lavar did to Aikman. Is that too much (cruel) to ask?

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jasno,
What are your sources saying about the Tank Johnson signing?

So much for "America's Team" when they sign criminals. I guess Vick will play in Dallas too in a few years.

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 18, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

It's a bit too early to gloat, but I think some early props are due:

1) Give Joe Bugel credit. He has coached up the O-line reserves well.
2) Give Joe Gibbs credit. They said the game has passed him by, but we have established our identity as a smashmouth, run first team, and we even see shades of 91' with the deep ball
3) Where are all the "Grilliams" comments? Some of you practically ran him out of town
4) I haven't heard one comment about Al Saunders' 700 page playbook. Seems like they know it now.
5) Finally, we have to give the FO some credit. They found some key reserves for cheap. They found a gem in Heyer. They locked up Cooley and Sellars. They went young on defense and they found a gem in the late rounds in H.B. Blades. They bought in a field general in London Fletcher and seem to have a very good safety for years to come in Landry...Can they get some love?

I know it's only 2 games, but it seems as if this organization is turning the corner, although Brandon Lloyd is the last of the mistakes we need to correct.

Posted by: sicwidit | September 18, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

My dictionary of terms thus far: (someone else can do the etymology)

SJK - Sorry Jack's Kids. Used as a replacement for adult language.
Receiver, The - Brandon Lloyd
Gardner, Rod - Rod Gardner
St. Joe - Joe Gibbs
"Mr." Snyder - Dan Snyder
ITA - Ignore the SJK-holes
Jasno - Our Intrepid Muse, Jason LaCanfora (a nod to his inability to spell his own name, much less anything else)
Cyn Cyty - Our Intrepid Muse's Editor, Cindy Boren
Double Move - Carlos Rogers
Double G - Gregg Williams
Man Boobs - Gregg Williams
Area 51 - Laron Landry (#30) and Sean Taylor (#21)
Girls, Gints, Iggles - Cowboys, Giants, Eagles

Any others?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I know it's only 2 games, but it seems as if this organization is turning the corner, although Brandon Lloyd is the last of the mistakes we need to correct.
sicwidit


Why is everyone always picking on me?

Posted by: Brandon Lloyd | September 18, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I was reading through the comments from the game, too.

My favorite -

Look! The Receiver!
He's mostly invisible
Get back to the bench

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 17, 2007 11:15 PM

Posted by: Tulsa | September 18, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Soupy is Jason Campbell

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Brandon Lloyd - tonight on Washington Post Live, I think it was Mike Wise who said that the Redskins would be foolish not to give Lloyd a chance to show what he could do. He also said he thought Lloyd was due to be deactivated soon and let go shortly thereafter. He thought that would be a mistake?

Posted by: mmok | September 18, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Those three penalties in a row at the end of the first half, is EXACTLY why Joe kicked the FG on 1st Down against the Dolphins.

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

"I know it's only 2 games, but it seems as if this organization is turning the corner, although Brandon Lloyd is the last of the mistakes we need to correct."

They went "vet" instead of rookie, as in the past, for OL backups. Wade is a bonafide starting tackle. Exceptions are Heyer and Lefotu on the practice squad. Notice no one mentioned moving him up. Must be something Buges sees in that 3rd year pure guard.

The big difference (except for Lloyd) character guys. Gibbs kind of character guys starting at QB. Character guys like Bodiford and Boyd picked up just before the 1st game. That is leadership.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

L2 - Laron Landry
Gibbs 2.4 - Joe Gibbs 2nd stint, 4th season
beep, beep - New post
The Crickets - bloggers that take over late at night when no one else is blogging

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Tonight on Bram's show one of their daughters was wearing a #85 Brandon Lloyd jersey.

Bram said:
"Somebody toss her a pass, and she will have one more reception than Brandon Lloyd does after two games!"

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

The rotation between Portis and Betts really isn't working. Neither is getting into a "groove" or rhythm. At times Sellers looked better going up the middle.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 09:16 PM

Portis has 167 yards rushing and Betts has 73 yards rushing and 42 receiving. With 1 back averaging 80 per game and the other 50 I am having a tough time following you. Sellers has 16 rushing yards.

Posted by: cdubb | September 18, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Geisinger is another 1st year guard they have on the practice squad with Lefotu.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

The Reaper - Sean Taylor

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

BOGO - Blog Our Guts Out
"super-" - Prefix, a nod to St. Joe's meaningless press conference language

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

HTTR = Hail to the Redskins

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

How much longer will Lloyd dress for games?

Posted by: Tulsa | September 18, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Do we need to explain Cody Body?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I think Lloyd is due a breakout game. Also, I think the argument that we need a "big" receiver is overrated. Smaller receivers are more elusive, and many of those first downs we got yesterday came from their ability to duck and break tackles.

Posted by: sicwidit | September 18, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I would not go far as to say Portis/Betts isn't working, but I wish they gave more of the workload to CP. I guess the shared workload strategy could pay off later in the year.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Everyone has been hoping for a breakout game since he got here. I don't think it is going to happen.

Posted by: Tulsa | September 18, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hmmmmm | September 18, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

".......has left a bad taste in our mouth......"

by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 08:20 PM

Thats what she said

Posted by: Michael Scott | September 18, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't even know if Brandon Lloyd is interested in breaking out into a sweat, much less a break out game!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Tonight Larry Michael said Sunday the Skins will be wearing the throwback uniforms to the 72 NFC championship team.

Mustard Pants and Burgendy jerseys as they wore at home in those days?

Or the mustard pants and the ugly white shirts with mustard and burgendy stripes?
Anyone know?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Time to spread the word (check out the last part of the "Other" category)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Michael Scott: Wikipedia... is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject, so you know you are getting the best possible information.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Nice pull CBT!!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 18, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

BBM - Big Brother Manning

LBM - Little Brother Manning

13-A - Front Office sucks (from a whole table of anti-redundancy codes for blogging; this is the most popular code)

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing they're the same jerseys available for sale on redskins.com.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Michael Scott: Wikipedia... is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject, so you know you are getting the best possible information.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

you are kidding, I hope.
I read Wikipedia and have caught many mistakes because anyone in the world can pass themselves off as knowledgeable.

It is horrible advocating the false assumption that everyone's opinion is equal and valid.

Well, no everyone's opinion is not equal and valid. Everyone has one yes, but if you have a toothe ache don't come to see me about my opinion... no, then you will seek out only the professional, the knowledgeable.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

that was me posting about wikipedia.
Not trying to hide....
simply overlooked my name

HTTR

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

RR, I guess you don't watch "The Office."

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

opinons are like me. Everybody has one.

Posted by: azzhole | September 18, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I found the jerseys on Redskin.com
the two on the left are indeed what were the road jerseys during those days, and with them they always wore ugly mustard / gold pants.

Somehow I doubt they will wear those mustard pants, only the jerseys with today's pants.

Or does that really qualify as throwback?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Both safeties deliver bone-chilling hits and strike fear into opponent's receivers."

Brilliant.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I did watch The Office once and didn't think there was much to it.

And what about the Office are you referring to? But of course I don't know because I gave up on it quite early in its run on TV.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

If I were still in school, I'd base all my book reports on stuff I learned from Wikipedia. Heck, I'm fairly certain that 95% of all my useless knowledge comes from Wikipedia.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

1 week until "Heroes" and "The Office" return.

Does anyone on the blog still care about "24"?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 18, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I want to give some props to EaglesFan Adam, he stuck around for the entire game, even defended the skins against an anon detractor.

Hope you're not suffering a Diddy-like hangover today bud!

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

The Wiki quote was from Michael Scott of "The Office." Like many things he says, it is funny in its simplistic idiocy.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I still have the last 3 hours of last season's "24" unwatched on my Tivo. I am over it.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 18, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Re: 24 - I wait for each season to come out on DVD because I invariably miss too many episodes a season and I don't have TiVo but I do still like 24.

Same goes for Lost - and I think Heroes will be the same.

Posted by: mmok | September 18, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Insert IV with ringers lactate and D5W

Posted by: Rampart | September 18, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Lloyd just had a breakout game. He got on the field and the pass thrown for him wasn't picked. For Lloyd ... that IS improvement

Posted by: AL | September 18, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

How could you guys forget to add "shabingus"?

Although I think that shabingus represents "a bad situation," I could use some help from an old-school RI blogger for clarification.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 18, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Who was last night's MVP in the Redskins win?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 18, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Here is a Redskin video of the 2005 season I think we will all recall and enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3YvxecZaMA

HTTR!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Haven't felt this way about this team since 1991 when we ended teh 90 season with 5 wins and no one saw us coming.

Okay enough I ramble because I am so happy.

Posted by: sfskin | September 18, 2007 07:19 PM

5 WINS IN THE 1990 SEASON? WHAT SEASON WERE YOU WATCHING BUDDY? REDSKINS WENT 10-6 IN 1990.

Posted by: Barno | September 18, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

It's a tough one. Maybe Rocky??

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Life is sweet when the Redskins sit atop the NFC East.

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't good enough that he had to call Gibbs decision making "inexplicable" in yesterday's game recap article, but today he writes yet another article going after Gibbs for the confusion at the end of the first half. And the idiot La Canfora gets the sequence of events wrong:

"While Gibbs and special teams coach Danny Smith tried to get it together, Reid inexplicably called a timeout that bailed out the Redskins.

Given time to think, Gibbs decided to go for a touchdown. After consecutive false starts by backup guard Jason Fabini backed up the Redskins to the 16-yard line, quarterback Jason Campbell completed a momentum-changing touchdown pass to tight end Chris Cooley."

Actually, no, the consecutive false starts did NOT occur after Reid's timeout. Fire La Canfora already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Worst. Reporter. Ever.

Posted by: Fire la canfora already!!!! | September 18, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice that when "The Receiver's" number was called, Soupy intentionally threw the ball off of his back foot and way out of bounds, just to see the receiver do a slip-n-slide on his back in the gravel... mad funny.

BTW, JC throws one of the nicest deep balls I've seen in a minute.

Posted by: SFIDV (Skins Fan In Da Ville) | September 18, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Barno, when sfskin said 'ended the season with 5 wins', I thought she meant we won our final 5 games. I could be wrong though.

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

A classy quote from a vet in his last year:

"I've been really impressed with him, because I've seen where he started and I certainly see where he'll end up,'' said Redskins backup (and former starting) quarterback Mark Brunell of Campbell. "He has the ability to be one of the special ones in this league. He's in the process of making this team his own, and becoming who he is.''

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 18, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm listening to Steely Dan on the iPod--where's Nate?

Ah, Walter Becker and Donald Fagen, you guys knew what you were doing.

Wikipedia: "Their music is characterized by complex jazz-influenced structures and harmonies, literate but sometimes obscure or ambiguous lyrics filled with dark sarcasm, and their adroit musicianship and studio perfectionism."

Exactly, wiki--well put. In fact, that nails it.

Not a guilty pleasure!

(Yeah, I can nurse unfinished business one muggering long time)

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

DTC Shout outs- (The "U" products had a good night in my book) As Madden says "Winning is the best deoderant".

(1, not a U) Fletcher, getting in some hits AND pressure up the middle in terms of Blitz pass rush (that has been missing for years). Knocked the snot out of the ball carrier couple times in Red Zone. Plays BIG!

(U2) Sean Tay. Big hit on Iggle receiver, run support, and SACK on Nabby.

(U3) Portis. Strong running, wicked hit on Iggles DB after the pick. (2) TD's.

(U4)McIntosh- Perhaps a better Pro than college player. The guy is all over the place, sacking people, making tackles, good speed.

(U5)Santana Moss- A bunch of good sideline routes for first downs. Great downfield blocking for Soupy (dismantled a DB) one time.

(6 not a U) Sellars. This dude was fired up AGAIN. I say he should lead the team out of the tunnel against Gints. The dude straight runs people over. Sweet first dwon pick up with extra effort had Bugel belly bumping fellow space Cowboys on the sideline.

7- SWISS HAM- Professional. Nuff said.

Honorable mentions- Cooley (TD, gutsy first down conversion) Wade, Fabini, Randle El, Betts, Soupy, Rogers (good run support).

ALl in ALL, the Skins wanted it more than the Iggles. They played physical, professional, poised football. Any other team would be drawing accolades from the "experts" for such a methodical road win. Keep the chip right on the shoulder where it belongs.

Posted by: DTC | September 18, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

ewwwwwwww steely dan....gross...

Posted by: chris larry | September 18, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

CL, I try not to think about the origins of the name when I listen to the music.

Thanks, though.

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

sir farstrike i was refering to the music

Posted by: chris larry | September 18, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Oh, that's different. Well, fine then.

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, I believe the Skins will be wearing mustard pants and the ugly white shirts with mustard and burgendy stripes - and wearing mustard helmets. At least that is what Larry Michael indicated on Redskins Radio.

Posted by: Lisa | September 18, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

This is my kind of headline:

"Georgia Man Dies After Armless Man Headbutts Him During Fight"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297212,00.html

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 11:32 PM | Report abuse

He must have misunderstood when they said he was 'armless

Posted by: kost52 | September 18, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

We need us a Giants fan to serve as this week's Redcoat (week 1) or Eaglesfan Adam (week 2), the guy we can be nice to and playfully banter with so we can prepare him for the big ripping-his-heart-out sacrifice on Sunday.

Any takers?

We're very nice and banterish. . . .

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 11:40 PM | Report abuse

kost, CMGO

[Chuckling My Guts Out--a light version of LMGO that has never caught on]

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

A JARGON REVIEW! WHAT FUN!

(caps usually indicate yelling or that our beloved bafoon Boofer [alliteration] is typing a nonsensical rant.

Shabingus is now a part of my regular vocabulary. My friends all know it and use it. I wear a shirt that says shabingus at least once every two weeks. My life has never been the same.

Shabingus: multiple catastrophes occurring simultaneously

Posted by: Dorf | September 18, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Sheesh Barno no need to yell. I am happy to stand corrected but wasn't it the '90 season where we were written off and then we won the last 5 games, getting better each one (Gibbs' famous Decembers) and took a lot of so called experts by surprise and then we picked up right where we left off in '91. It was one of those season I think where only 11 wins or better got you into the playoffs (remember those days?)
Am I remembering wrong?

Posted by: sfskin | September 18, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, I believe the Skins will be wearing mustard pants and the ugly white shirts with mustard and burgendy stripes - and wearing mustard helmets. At least that is what Larry Michael indicated on Redskins Radio.
___________________________________________

Thanks Lisa, but I thought he said the 72 season uniform.
The old mustard helmet with the "R" was only used for two seasons as I recall. Those were the 70 and 71 seasons.
I was 7 and 8 years old but the Skins were the most important thing to me in life, so I vividly recall the new helmet came for the 72 season when they went 11-3 and went to SB VII.
So if it is the 72 season [35 years ago] they are commemorating they will still wear the current helmet.
Thanks Lisa

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

farstriker meant to complement the Song of Jason so excellent!

TCCL's - Tom Cruise Couch Leaps - the modern day equivalent of jumping the shark

Posted by: sfskin | September 18, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I was present attending this game.
the place went crazy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn3Npoj1zf8&NR=1

HTTR!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

thanks, sfskin.

Night ya'll

HTTR

Posted by: farstriker | September 18, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

That'd be compliment I couldn't possibly complement it it's too good and I lack that kind of talent.

Posted by: sfskin | September 18, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

poor LaVar!
Gave us a few exciting moments but
Never lived up to the hype.

Good Night everybody!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZUuRfp8NR4&mode=related&search=

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 18, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey Diddy you're girl is on ESPN 2 right now. USA v. Nigeria replay.

USA is putting on a clinic of goal shots unfortunately only 1 getting in so far.

Posted by: sfskin | September 18, 2007 11:53 PM | Report abuse

It felt good at 1-0, but boy, don't you dug-gum love being 2-0!

Posted by: kost52 | September 19, 2007 12:01 AM | Report abuse

B.Lloyd will never catch a pass this season (as a Redskin).

That's my throw down. He will get a KJ after Caldwell gets up to speed.

KJ = not active rest of season Keyshawn Johnson style

Posted by: noone from tampa | September 19, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

How's the inactive pool looking? Who's up this week?

Posted by: kost52 | September 19, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

NFL network reported Thomas will be out 10-12 weeks after surgery, that would mean he could be back for the end of the season and.......what for it............THE PLAYOFFS!!!!! (in jim mora sr. voice, of course)

Posted by: T | September 19, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

****It's official, my fantasy team sucks.***

I could probably replace half of them from guys on waivers and do better.

***End Fantasy***

Posted by: Stumped | September 18, 2007 01:45 PM


You've got me this week, I bet your Saints RB tandem decide to show up this week.

Posted by: kost52 | September 19, 2007 12:37 AM | Report abuse

HTTR! Saw this link earlier in the thread and checked it out. really liked the t-shirt for area 51. can anyone vouch for the validity of the site? if so i'm ordering. thanks and HTTR.

Posted by: sincityskinfan | September 19, 2007 12:48 AM | Report abuse

HTTR! Saw this link earlier in the thread and checked it out. really liked the t-shirt for area 51. can anyone vouch for the validity of the site? if so i'm ordering. thanks and HTTR.

http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/2007/08/laron-taylor-area-51.html

Posted by: sincityskinsfan | September 19, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Nnana Mushmushi (I might be mis-speeling this.)

Posted by: dcsween | September 18, 2007 03:31 PM

That's gold!

Posted by: kost52 | September 19, 2007 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Ade Jimoh has been cut by the Bears.

Posted by: kost52 | September 19, 2007 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Any other folks in Skinsville that love good bluegrass music (I can't be the only one, can I?) try this youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyXHdaBJ_2Y&mode=related&search=

some hellacious pickin' on HTTR and some very interesting footage to go wif' it.

Posted by: Willie | September 19, 2007 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Ade Jimoh has been cut by the Bears.

Posted by: kost52 | September 19, 2007 01:27 AM

Maybe the Bears are going to steal Nate Jones (?) from the Cowboys waiver wire?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 3:48 AM | Report abuse

This is the current compendium of RI terms and errata, updated to the moment (and mildly corrected as necessary). Thanks to P Diddy (aka The Viscount) for getting the ball rolling, and to all who added later contributions.


SJK: Sorry Jack's Kids. Used as a replacement for adult language. (Can be used as a noun, verb, adjective, adverb or exclamation.)

ITA: Ignore The A$$clowns (alarm post when snerts and other undesirables invade the RI space)

Shabingus: multiple catastrophes occurring simultaneously

BMGO, BOGO: Blogging My/Our Guts Out

LMGO: Laughing My Guts Out

HTTR: Hail To The Redskins

TCCLs: Tom Cruise Couch Leaps - the modern day equivalent of jumping the shark (according to sfskin)

Beep Beep: means a new post (thread) has been put up by the blog controllers (Jasno and Cindy); proceed there immediately

Jasno: Our Intrepid Muse, Jason LaCanfora (a nod to his inability to spell his own name, much less anything else)

Other names for Jasno: JLaC, JLC, JLaToucanfora, etc.

J3: Jason Reid; newest Redskins beat reporter who arrived in Sept. 2007

Cyn Cyty: Our Intrepid Muse's Editor, Cindy Boren

The Boren Ultimatum: Cyn Cyty's ultimate quest - to reach 100,000 posts since RI began in August 2006; goal to be achieved by 9/23/07 - or else!

"Mr." Snyder: Dan Snyder, Redskins owner

13-A: "Front Office sucks" (from a separate table of anti-redundancy codes for blogging; this is the most popular code)

St. Joe: Joe Gibbs

Gibbs 2.4: 2nd stint as Head Coach, 4th season

"Super": Coach Gibbs' favorite adjective for adding emphasis to a word

Double G: Gregg Williams

Man Boobs: also Gregg Williams

Grilliams: also Gregg Williams

Soupy: Jason Campbell

CP: Clinton Portis

Swiss Ham: Shaun Suisham (kicker)

Frosty: Derrick Frost (punter)

Double Move: Carlos Rogers

The Grim Reaper: Sean Taylor (aka The Reaper, SeanTay)

L2: Laron Landry

Area 51: that portion of the field occupied by Laron Landry (#30) and Sean Taylor (#21); extremely perilous place for opponents to traverse

Gardner, Rod: Rod Gardner (a former Redskins WR)

The Receiver: Brandon Lloyd (a soon-to-be former Redskins WR)

LaVar-ed: a player getting the non-playing silent treatment by the coaching staff

Girls, Gints, Iggles: Cowboys, Giants, Eagles

BBM: Big Brother Manning (Peyton)

LBM: Little Brother Manning (Eli)

BBP: Big Brother Palmer (Carson)

LBP: A waste of a draft pick

Nnana Mushmushi: a CB for the Oakland Raiders

Priest Holmes: an NFL player who is contractually tied to the Kansas City Chiefs, but potentially the future Swiss Army Knife of the Washington Redskins

The Crickets: an efficient and highly-trained group of web crawlers who search the Internets for interesting articles that are posted on RI in the middle of the night for the benefit of RI reader/bloggers. They operate only in the overnight hours on a somewhat sporadic basis. (Accept no substitutes.)


Please feel free to take this list further through addenda and amendments. (Maybe at some point, someone will e-mail it to Cindy and get it posted as part of a site FAQ.)

Posted by: The Crickets | September 19, 2007 5:24 AM | Report abuse


Crickets bring the noise
A late night language beer run
True cunning linguist

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 19, 2007 6:51 AM | Report abuse

sincity;

It prolly is legit. However there is a RI tshirt location as well. Nate in the PDX is the main source to get the link, and the one who usually creates/uploads those shirt ideas.

Some have created, like Bucktown Skins Fan who has considerable skills, these shirts have proceeds that go to NOLA charities when the man, jm 220, takes the $ down there when he volunteers.

Dont have the exact link, but someone will post it following this message.

HTTR

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Haiku;

a little double entendre? in a haiku?

you are the man!

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 6:53 AM | Report abuse


Boz's column today rocks, as it provides a good, balanced perspective on the 2-0 Skins:

1) Caution: Love the point about none of the
21 Pro Bowlers that Mr. signed have gone
to another Pro Bowl.

2) Positive: 2-0 is 2-0, with 4-0 entirely
realistic. Go crazy, folks! Go crazy!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 19, 2007 6:54 AM | Report abuse


Stripped Zebra prowls Night,
Seeks female solace in Dark:
Comfort of the Bush.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 19, 2007 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Nothing like the Bush!

Sorry to all the female readers/posters...

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Cooley on DC101

Did you get a game ball? No

W/o the TD at the end of the half, we dont win - It was all mine, i won the game (j/k)

There were two guys on you? Yep, Dawk was on his back, and he could see the corner. It was his. Had to catch it since he dropped one earlier

Do you get nervous when the ball in the air - No, excited. Looked at JC, "I'll make a play"

Thees said it was a great throw - Yep, perfect. Moveing back helped. Fabini said the extra room his FS provided, Cooley owes him a dinner. Jason is doing a great throwing downfield. Would be better if we dont drop 6-7 passes during game.

After the first drop, does JC say anything?
In practice i throw my helmet if it happnes... so they know how I feel about drops. He does not let anything bother him.

JC took hits? Yep, he is bigger than me, so he should be able to take the hits.

How was halftime, celebrate? They were pumped up.

How come you didnt dance like CP? I would need time to practice a dance. ESPN only gave CP a 5 out of 10 on his dance. What do you think they would give me?

Thees talked with us about being 2-0, but peeps say we should have crushed the iggles? Gibbs teams run the ball, not throwing it all over the place. We dont blow out people.

- Great matchup this week. We are 2-0. Last year we were 0-2 and panicking. So it is flip-flopped. Then we have a bye and then 2 non-conference, so they are excited.

What about what McNabb said about race and QB's - He has to realize he is Philly, so any QB will get it there.

He has had his opportunities there, going to a SB - Its hard to say, it is a weird subject. But do you think Brunell has had more criticism than JC? Maybe cause he is old, but he got booed when he came in for JC last year. But you cant take away his feelings. He has done a great job in philly, and it is a tough place to play.

You have been booed at home? Yep, its horrible, especially when you are still trying to win the game, and its the 2nd game, why boo them. It does not help.

When Brunell was booed, did it bother him? At that point it was a joke. We all knew, as did he, and we laughed at him in the huddle. It still bothered him.

Dance suggestions from Callers - After you score. Go pull up the field goal nets, help the guys...

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

yowsa, The Crickets and HaikuMan rocking!

================================

The RI Insider view:

After starting out 0-1 with an ugly week 1 loss (due largely to the unexpected loss of all-pro QB Nate in the PDX, and a rash of free-agent wire signings that didn't work), this week was a must-win.

And RI came through big. Every phase of our game is clicking--analysis, rants, jokes, haikus, jibba jabba, haiku, links, spelling corrections, etc.

Look at the codification, for instance: this week The Crickets compile a list of RI code, putting together the contributions of a host of RIers. That's professionalism, folks--that's the kind of discipline that wins blog wars and reaches ultimatums.

And of couse this season we've added a new vertical threat to our game, the epic poem.

Shakespeare, Periculum, and yours truly have all added length and a deep threat to RI posts.

It's impossible to really prepare for RI this season. We can just throw too many weapons at you.

J3 hasn't even learned the playbook--when he's on the field for us, look out!

Finally, as for this week: the effort was incredible. Clearly, we just wanted it more than Extreme Skins.

1-1: RI is back! The beast of the east!

Blog power ranking: #!

Posted by: farstriker | September 19, 2007 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Amongst our diverse weaponry are such tactics as . . . redundancy (two instances of "haiku")

All in the service of the ultimatum.

Posted by: farstriker | September 19, 2007 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Wow, so when Cooley says they were laughing in the huddle when Brunell was being booed... were the other ten guys laughing with Brunell or at him?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 8:23 AM | Report abuse

If we are to remain #1, we better go BOGO to achieve the Ultimatum.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Nate;

Kind of both, he understood why he was booed, and was laughing with the rest, but as he said, the boos still bother him. But he understands the team, not just him, finding the humor.

They are his friends, so they could all laugh about it.

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

farstriker, Zebra, bless you lads for your excellent work up here. We've got a lot of work to do for the next four days, a ton of work, and I couldn't imagine a better bunch of guys to do it. All our work in the offseason, all the commenting we did through training camp, it's all coming to this.

As dealer suggested, we can stop counting after 100k, after we reach the Ultimatum. That should be incentive enough for everybody to blog their ever-lovin' guts out for the next four days.

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

http://www.eitmonline.com/home.html

Yesterdays daily recap, midway down there is the links to Joe T's interview yesterday.

Also a pic of Jenna Von Oy, Six from Blossom, always thought she was hot/

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 8:32 AM | Report abuse

elements

Posted by: farstriker | September 19, 2007 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I AM WRITING THIS IN CAPS BECAUSE I WANT ALL THE SKINS FANS TO READ THIS. RELAX AND RELISH THAT OUR TEAM IS 2-0 RIGHT NOW. LOSING RANDY THOMAS SUCKS, IT REALLY DOES BUT FABINI DID A NICE JOB STEPPING IN . YES , HE TOOK TWO FALSE STARTS BUT THE CROWD NOISE WAS HUGE AND HE NEEDS TIME TO GEL. HE IS A 10 YEAR VET WITH HIS CAREER COMING TO AN END, HE REALIZES THIS IS HIS CHANCE TO STEP UP AND SHINE. WE ARE GOING TO SIGN ANOTHER GUARD IN FREE AGENCY AND MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE KEYDRICK VINCENT, WHO RABACH KNOWS AND PLAYED WITH. WE NEED FABINI TO HOLD THE POSTION DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF GAMES AND THEN VINCENT WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH THE OFFENCE AND STEP IN. WE MAY NOT EVEN NEED VINCENT, FABINI MIGHT SURPRISE SOME, HE MY BE A FLOP; WHO KNOWS. WE HAVE LOST OUR STAR RIGHT GUARD AND WE WILL MISS HIM, ESPECIALLY ON PULLING PLAYS BUT SOME PEOPLE SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT JANSEN, AND I DON'T RECALL HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT JEVON KEARSE ON MONDAY NIGHT. THE FRONT OFFICE, GIBBS AND BUGEL WILL MAKE SURE THE RIGHT SIDE WILL BE FILLED ADEQUATELY WITH THOMAS TURNING TO COACH FOR VINCENT, FABINI OR WHOMEVER FILLS THAT SPOT. WE WILL STILL RUN TO THE RIGHT SIDE.REMEMBER WADE LOVES RUNNING PLAYS!

WE ARE BRUISED BUT NO BROKEN.

Posted by: Jeff | September 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

To add to that list above:

Chooches: Inept people or anyone who roots for the 'girls or uggles. (while most gmen fans are chooches it is not a 100% occurance.)

Bama: People who create Shabingus.

Fudge'ems: A gelatanous cube of poop from an '06 dominos commercial meant to signify "the grass' always greener" theory of the front office who let quality "core Redskins" go and replace them with high price, big name players. (See Archabingus fiasco of '06)

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' Kiids!

Always problems with the lines... Such is the way of the NFL.

So is Brunhilda on his Broomstick to Seattle?

Posted by: The AMAZING Dik Shuttle | September 19, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

For those who are having an issue with the division of carries between Portis and Betts, back when Clinton was with the Bronco's, he was averaging around 270 carries, and 1500 yards a season. 270 carries over the course of a season breaks down to about 17 carries a game, or there abouts. Right now after 2 games, Portis has 34 carries. There is no point in running Portis into the ground, with Betts backing him up. Use them both 50% of the time, and we'll be HUGELY successful. I'm not saying that Betts and Portis are equals, I'm saying look at Portis's career, when he was getting 1500 yards a season, he was under 300 carries.

Just my .02....

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 19, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I'll also add that Fudge 'Ums were delicious.

:-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Loseable Type - A post that is lost into blog oblovion, usually due to rampant blogging

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

You want Portis to be healthy for the final 5 games and "playoffs". If that means splitting the load now, great. But in those final games, it's on CP's shoulders.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

so how many left until Ultimatum. breakdown by day? how about breakdown by regular blogger (this prompts another question)

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya Greg(Boston). Your post sounds like what I was saying on here a couple of days ago. Certainly Clinton Portis is not built to carry the ball 28+ a game. As the season goes along and if Portis can stay healthy, I don't see why he can't have at least 1300 yds. this season. I would like to see him and Betts in at the same time. You can run some crazy misdirection plays at the defense (Portis one way, Betts the other). But what the hell I know? Thats why I sit in a cube for 8 hrs. a day and Joe Gibbs has a bust in Canton.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 19, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

farstriker, gotta agree that periculum definitely adds length to the blog, well, words anyway. depth? as in "deep end, off the"? sure.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

dcsween, I'm absolutely tickled that periculum's pet project, Priest Holmes, made it into The Crickets' vocabulary list.

We're a big family, with a lot of, uh, interesting personalities.

(says the epic-poem nerd)

Posted by: farstriker | September 19, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

dc, farstriker -

periculum has quality in addition to quantity. So much better than the random "F whatever" cut and paste posts that stretch from here to forever.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Cbt, you mean like F chRIs Larry?

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

You want Portis to be healthy for the final 5 games and "playoffs". If that means splitting the load now, great. But in those final games, it's on CP's shoulders.

Posted by: P Diddy

P- I can understand why you would say that. Clinton is the featured back, makes good cheddar, and feels he has something to prove, and well all know you are at your best when your playing with that proverbial chip on your shoulder. But with Clinton is more like a boulder. Anyway my point is, if the Skins continue on this path of winning games and beating opponents they're suppose to beat, why come playoff time would you start giving Clinton 70% of the rushing load. I think Betts proved to the world is a capable running back. He is owned in damn near every FFL I participate in. I assume its about 55% Clinton and 45% Betts now. On the other hand if Portis has that one game where he can go off for 150yds. on like 25 carries but not have a run for over 15yds (Thats the kicker) then maybe for the next game you can give him maybe 30, no more than 35. For one game only. As I said a few post ago the ideal number of carries Portis should receive in the game is about 18-22.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 19, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Cbt, F chRIs Larry is kind of like blog calesthenics. Among the various F things, its the best. Also a fan of FJK.

Also, I will hold off for a second ... find me a "quality" periculum clip (that doesn't repeat something that has already become blog consensus or is not contradictory of something he's said within the preceding 3-4 days), and let's discuss.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

The problem with the rotation as it is now is that the use Portis first then Betts gets more carries late. They should go the other way around. Portis should get his carries in the second half. Not all of them but i'd go 60-40 Bettes in the first half and 70-30 Portis in the second.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

dcsween, if that's your definition of quality, then are there really ANY quality bloggers on RI?

Posted by: farstriker | September 19, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

BAMF = Bad Ass Mo Fo

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

farstriker, normally, I'd say 'touche' but from the get go, I've been an advocate for quality over quantity. The blogcountpushes have definitely reduced the quality of the reading, extended the time necessary to actually keep up, and diminished the stature of the community (e.g., by driving away the really quality posters like the bloggerette Megskin). Jibba jibba (if clever) and good snark are one thing, but actual posts about Skins football SHOULD meet some standard of quality.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I realize I'm a bit of a newbie, sween, but some of these tomes - though they may be quality, are just mindnumbing to get through.

Given the conversational nature of a blog, I would think shorter posts would be more appropriate.

But - that's just my opinion. And I do have to say, it's very enjoyable here. I appreciate everyone's input.

Yes, even SIGN CHRIS COOLEY. (don't over do it! hahahah)

Posted by: Dik | September 19, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Dik (and farstriker and other newish peep posters who I may have missed), I gotta say I'm liking the contributions by you guys and think I may have neglected to extend my welcome!

p.s. SIGN CHRIS COOLEY gives me carpal tunnel syndrome via my mouse roller.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

What? Ray Brown is not coming in?

Posted by: midniterc | September 19, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Yes, after the Boring Ultimatem I think we should be done with the count.

Everytime Sign CC posts it makes me want to smack my momma and kill a kitten.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

gotta work, dash it all. Out for now. . .

Posted by: farstriker | September 19, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I also want to take an opportunity for a shout out to the departed Megskin (see posts from the archives of last season). As a football eye, she had PERFECT vision, esp. on defense. As a writer, she was concise and typically hilarious. In my opinion, she set the tone and gold standard for the blog. There were other posters from since the beginning, but its her absence that inspires me to curse quantity over quality. Stepping off the soapbox (which I believe to be a closing made famous by sfskin).

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Love the list of RI terms. I've been lurking for weeks now, gradually learning the ropes so it's great to see I've been right on all my guesses.

And I'll add my voice to the question: how many posts to go until RI reaches the Boren Ultimatum?

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Prinskipper Skippel... Primdable Skimpsker... I found something!

Posted by: Ralph Wigum | September 19, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

BTW, today is International Talk Like a Pirate Day.

Avast me hearties!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I almost referenced "Sign Chris Cooley" rather the the "F Wahetever" cut and pasters, but "Sign Chris Cooley" has grown on me (hope this doesn't encourage him).

Back to fooball, Jasno, can we get frequent posts from RP re: the Vincent visit? You rocked last week when Richocet came to town - we want more of the same.

Can you get into RP with the practices being closed this week?

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"F Wahetever"

I guess I could make I case for this not beng a misspelling???

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Argggg. Ye scurvy dogs be a few bullions short of a treasure chest.

Posted by: Capn Dorf | September 19, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I guess I could make I case for this not beng a misspelling???

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 10:32 AM

When you misspell "a", it is time to get back to work.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 19, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Yaarrrrr! (in pirate voice)


RFK, JKC, SJK.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Avast! they be sinkin' ships off thee shores o' Melbourne.

Methinks akin to them Giants Playoffs hopes thems Redskins be a dashin' 'gainst the rocks.

Arrr.

Sabe?

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Dik | September 19, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

"BOGO - Blog Our Guts Out"

Actually guys, and not to be anal, but the term "blogging" refers to the original blog posted by Jasno as he is the "blogger" -- the rest of us are just posting comments to his blog, not actually blogging.

So how about POGO - Post Our Guts Out?

Or COGO - Comment Our Guts Out?

Ah, forget it, let's just stick with BOGO.

Posted by: RambleOn | September 19, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

The MNF crew and their interview with Barkley came during a critical point early in the 2nd half when momentum could have swung either way. They need to do that at halftime or if a game is out of reach. I agree Jaws is great at breaking down game film and finding footage the normal fan might miss. Tony K added some wit and Tirico is a work in progress. Still, the crew missed some big hits that merited replay and the pre-game coverage was 75/25 about the iggles. And is anybody else sick of Hank Williams and that theme song???

Posted by: G$ | September 19, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Just heard the best meeting put-down ever:

"You bring many things to this organization. Silence should be one of them."

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Welcome, redskirt, and excellent nickname!

Guessing that we're about 3,500 posts from 100k. And we have a little more time than I'd expected, given the later-afternoon kickoff scheduled for the Jints game. So we have a little over four days to do it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I will take Faith Hill over Hank Williams all 8 days of the week.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Arr, that be not Hank Williams Jr.!

That be BLACKBEARD! Arrr

Posted by: Dread Pirate Dik | September 19, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

RambleOn, you are welcome to ramble your guts out up here any time.

I think most of us acknowledge that we're attached to this blog like barnacles on a pirate ship, and that what we're doing isn't "blogging" in strict terms. But I'm sticking with the acronym BYGO; I think it works fine.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I will take Faith Hill over Hank Williams all 8 days of the week.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 10:43 AM

Amen!!!!

Posted by: skinswest | September 19, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Monday Night Football is about 2 years away from becoming TRL; with the game playing in the lower right corner while Tirico and Tony and Jaws do celebrity interviews and compeletely ignore the action.

Just watch.

Posted by: etrod | September 19, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Another one for the lexicon project...

Winged Unicorn = fantasy creature often sighted (and cited) when an RI comment includes an amazing leap of faith or preposterous prediction.

"Brandon Lloyd is going to make a catch this week, I guarantee it! Oh look, a winged unicorn!"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

One man deserves a solid nickname and we haven't stepped up at this point: London Fletcher.

I'm not the best at this but I suggest Churchill. He's our General and his name is London after all. Other suggestions are welcome.

Our run D is much improved with Churchill out there directing traffic.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 19, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins barely beat a lowly Miami team @ home. Then they went to Philly and beat their Eagles, and may I add how many open recievers McNabb missed?

There's a few impressive 2-0 teams so far in this league, sadly, the Redskins aren't one of them.

The Giants offense will be the best the 'Skins have faced thus far. Before you go annointing them 3-0, 4-0, 6-0, or even 16-0, let's remove those blindfolds and realize the Redskins are still the Redskins until they actually prove something.

Also, Kyle Boller had the same hype as Jason Campbell.

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves thinking that Campbell might actually be a starter 10 years down the road.

Posted by: John | September 19, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"Also, Kyle Boller had the same hype as Jason Campbell."
Posted by: John | September 19, 2007 10:53 AM

ummm...you made a little sense until this statement.

ITA from here on.

Posted by: jonnie5 | September 19, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Aww, John, what's the fun in being a fan if we don't have our unfounded optimism to cling to? I'm still on the 19-0 bandwagon until we get a flat tire.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Arr, that be not Hank Williams Jr.!

That be BLACKBEARD! Arrr

Posted by: Dread Pirate Dik

So I guess that makes Mike Sellers 'Redbeard', then? Or was it 'Yellowbeard'? Could never tell what color that bit of shrubbery under his chin was....

Now that I think of it, it would be neat to shout "ARRRRR!" everytime Sellers lays the Pergo on someone.

Posted by: FlimFlam | September 19, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Welcome, redskirt, and excellent nickname!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 10:43 AM

Thanks Nate for the update! We'll make it (not trying to rival either HaikuMan or farstriker...actually I have farstriker's epic installments saved in a word file. Call me a fan).

I'm really trying to drink the Kool-Aid, but I can't stop crossing my fingers hoping Joe takes Bos's line--and keeps us focused for the Gints. The last thing I want to hear Sunday night is Madden and Al talking about how we "overlooked" them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

sorry, that was me. didn't mean to go anon.

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I second "Churchill" for London Fletcher, and "Redbeard" for Sellers. That chin beard has so much structure it's almost Egyptian.

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Easy there John..... I think what you are trying to say is its early....early in the season for the skins and early in the career of Jason Cambpell... on that we can agree.....but not on the Kyle Boller comparison....look all first round QB "saviors" get hype thats the first stage of thier life as an nfl QB....second stage is when they first play, you get an impression good, bad, great, awful.... call that the hope phase, if the look bad at first you hope they improve, if they are good you hope they stay good and get better ....Boller never really developed and certainly never inspired any level of confidence in his teamates or coaches....JC has already done that in a very short amount of time.

Posted by: Old School | September 19, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

If the stuff belonged to the Juice then you gotta let him loose.

Posted by: Johnny Cochran | September 19, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Sure Nate, easier to stick with BYGO/BOGO (my anal post was a lame attempt at humor). But for those of us long-winded Ramblers, RYGO/ROGO may be appropo.

RambleOn!

Posted by: RambleOn | September 19, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Tower of London

Also my priate name is

Pirate Hannibal the Bitter

Here is the link, Arrr and such

http://gangstaname.com/pirate_name.php

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Great link Zebra!

I am Scowlin' Wade Teach! Arrrggh, it be harrd typin' with this hook!

Posted by: etrod | September 19, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Ar ar ar ar ar ar, FF.

And what scallywag Ravens fan be pushawing the might of our exhaulted Redskins?!

Quoth thee nevermore!

Posted by: Dread Pirate Dik | September 19, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

"I will take Faith Hill over Hank Williams all 8 days of the week."

Posted by: P Diddy | September 19, 2007 10:43 AM

If that's the deal, I'm pushing aside Hank Williams and getting in on that ... having Faith Hill over ME!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Pretty funny, I put Joe Jacoby's name into the pirate calculator, and what came out?

Sea Monkey Wade.

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

You idiots better drink all the koolaid you can this week because it's going to be tasting a whole lot more bitter after Sunday when we show you that your defense isn't as good as you think. You played the sorry a$$ Dolphins (no offense) and the has been Eagles. Plus you got lucky in the Eagles game with McNabb missing a few passes that would have been TD's. Those sorry a$$ corners of your are going to get torched beyond recognition and don't tell e to be scared of Taylor or Landry because neither one of them can cover a receiver either. And no one is scared of your offense by any means. 38-10 Giants.

Posted by: Giants Rule. Skinz Drool | September 19, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Avast! I be Sea Monkey Mary...Sea Monkey Wade be the scurvy head of our Sea Monkey clan.

(scottish pirates?)

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

F chris larry...

I like to vary my posts, sometimes long and detailed, sometimes quick hits, sometimes F bombs, sometimes snark, sometimes one liners...

Like to keep people guessin!

The Wife is away this weekend so I think I am going to start a Redskins Insiders wiki that we can all work on that will be a permanent and growing storehouse of RI lore, links, lingo, t-shirts, bios etc than can coexist as a RI blog primer. So we can house all this great stuff and than give newbies/questions a link to catch up!

Does that sound boffo?

Posted by: chRis larry | September 19, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

If the Gints hold us to 10 points after we should have had 27 against the Eags, I'll eat my own underwear...and we'll lose.

We'll need to put up at least 24 this week to win and I expect we will considering the Gints D is the worst in the NFL.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 19, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

John, no one is saying JC is a hall of famer (yet) and I for one have been trying all offseason and preseason to temper the dillusional who think this team was going to go 14-2 or better. That's simply not going to happen.

But, our defense looks legit, and JC is already well beyond where Boller was, Boller never won them games he only hurt them, frankly, JC won that game for us Monday, the running game had spurts of brightness but wasn't largely effective, JC made play after play on 3rd down and won that game in the second half. We should at the very least be heading to New Endland at 4-2 which is pretty good but I think it will be more like 5-1, Thomas was a huge loss that we won't realize the extent of untill we play some good defenses, which the only one we have in the next for is Green Bay. My revised predictions from or 2-0 position:

W New York G
W Detroit
L @ GB
W Arizona
L @ Pats
L @ Jets
W Eagles
L @ Cowboys
W @ Tampa
W Bills
L Bears
W @ Giants
W @ Vikings
W Cowboys

11 - 5, playoffs and a home game, and I think we lose in the 2nd round. Which would be a great 1st year for JC and something to really build on with the youth movement on D and an improvement of our Oline, Dline, and a big WR in the Offseason

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Real Name= Cap'n Fritz KeelHaul
Skinz= Cap'n Edward PoopDeck.

I am resisting the second one.

Skins need an SJK'in defensive turnover this weekend.

Posted by: Cap'n Fritz KeelHaul | September 19, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Just like a Skins fan. "We should have had 27 points". And I "should be" a billionare. I guess the Skins "should have" went to the Superbowl last year too huh? Skins fans = always living in a dream world. You better wear your edible underwear on Sunday.

Posted by: Giants Rule Skins Drool | September 19, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

cL, sounds absolutely boofulous!

Zebra, thx for the Banks link. There was one bit in there that reminded me of what I thought when I saw it:

"On that pivotal 73-yard touchdown drive, which seemed to drain the Eagles of their will to win on this night, Campbell helped account for all but four of the yards, scrambling for a key 20-yard gain and completing five of seven passes for 62 yards."

I recall that Al Saunders at some point said something about how he considers the need for (and decision of) the QB to run for the first down to be a play failure ... or maybe it was failure of the play-calling. Regardless, he doesn't like it. See e.g., what happened to Trent Green last season.

- Sharkbait

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Have your fun Giants fan. Here's hoping you stay in touch this week and engage in reasonable debate a la Redcoat (Dolphins fan) and dcIggle.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 19, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"JC won that game for us Monday"

Face it you "always living in a dream world" skins fans - Donovan McNabb and McNabb ONLY won that game for you on Monday. He should be your MVP for the game.

Posted by: Giants Rule Skinz Drool | September 19, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Correct me if I'm wrong but another team that barely snuck past the "has been eagles" just opened up a can of whup-sjk on the gints.

I agree that this is a trap game for the skins but if they come in ready to play, they should take care of the gint with relative ease.

Posted by: etrod | September 19, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

ok, now we know (most of) the anonymous, inciting e-mails are from a Skins fan/an RI regular: there is no WAY a Gints fan comes on here and talks smack -- yipes, they are terrible . . .

But keep it coming, whoever you are - we need it and love it.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 19, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Giants Rule Skinz Drool = Cap'n Sully No-Beard

Posted by: Scowlin' Wade Teach | September 19, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

GRSD,

typical NYC bravado w/ NOTHING to back it up. The Dolphins we're BEATING the Heffers until Green got pick happy. And we'll see how u do in Philly.

We'll make sure to FedEx Manning's arm back to Manhattan. Just get the Pilsbury Throw Bow some cheesburgers and milkshakes, 'cause you're going to need him.

Posted by: Dik | September 19, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

For those who missed the pool on 'the receiver', how about what week does Coughlin get the ax?

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Giants Rule Skinz Drool, its amusing that with your team that might challenge for the worst record in the league this year being so bad that you can come in here and talk crap. You have a coach your team hates and won't play for, you have no running back, offensive line, defense, a loud-mouth underachieving TE, a plexi-glass WR, and a dinged QB. The only thing you have to look forward to this year is a top-five draft pick and a new coach. Stick around though and lets talk monday.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Don't confuse me with one of you dreaming skins fans. Terrible = The Redskins for the past 15 years.

Posted by: Giants Rule Skinz Drool | September 19, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Terrible = the Giant this year.

Posted by: Scowlin' Wade Teach | September 19, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Am I wrong or has the "addition" of Jason Reid so far resulted in no additional coverage of the Redskins in the print version of the Post? (It appears to have all but cut off any information here, eh? as Jasno might say). We still get one recycled fluff piece about the O-line or a player, some abbreviated "notebook" that is shorter than summaries of high school games, and that's about it. Oh. Tom Boswell wrote a column. Yippee. If you want to make money off the Redskins here on in print, great, but at least give your customers something for their dedication to your publications.

Posted by: More News Please | September 19, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

" ... Donovan McNabb and McNabb ONLY won that game for you on Monday. He should be your MVP for the game."

Posted by: Giants Rule Skinz Drool | September 19, 2007 11:39 AM

You are underselling the importance of Philly fans booing their own team when the Skins grabbed (and maintained) the momentum.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

"The Dolphins we're BEATING the Heffers until Green got pick happy. And we'll see how u do in Philly."

There you skins fans go again with your irrelevant delirious thoughts. We'll see how you do against the Cowboys and the Packers. Oh and us. Like I said, drink the koolaid now cause it will be tasting more like pi$$ water after Sunday.

Posted by: Giants Rule Skinz Drool | September 19, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Yo fake Giants fan: the proper RI vernacular for your saying iz:

BLANK rulz
BLANK droolz

get right D-Bag!

I agree though he is a regular funnin around

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 19, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

True NFC East fans shouldn't count on the Girls to win games for them. Your tack-on "oh and us" is telling.

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I've got 'the receiver' being inactive this week so I'll start off the 'Free NYG from Coughlin' pool on Monday after the 'skins pull out a can of whup-@$$ out on the gints. This game will also end all lamentations for A. Pierce as well.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Jason Reid wrote the one called "Exceeding Expectations" yesterday.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Later dreamers. I'll be back to see how that pi$$ water tastes Sunday evening.

Posted by: Giants Rule Skins Drool | September 19, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

GRSD,

What's your record now?! WEEEAAAK. You have nothing. You are stunned by our success and can only revert to vitriolic bile.

Can't wait to talk to you on Monday. Your team is feeble, led by an impotent potentate. Eli 'Napoleon Dynamyte' Manning blames everyone else for his ineptitude. Shockey hasn't been relevant since they started testing pee. And your running back hated you so much, he left at the peak of his carreer. Your only star on defense needs a wheelchair and is just collecting his Social Security anyway.

Give it up, GRSD, become a Jets Fan already. At least you'll be relevant.

Posted by: Dik | September 19, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wait GRSD;

15 years, sounds familiar... when did you team last win the super bowl?

You got there in 2000, but you lost to the ravens and trent dilfer... good showing.

And how many playoff appearances? Last year, 2005 and...2000 and....1997... so we are at ten years there. You lost in the first round every year except the super bowl year. Not really lighting the world on fire are ya?

From wiki:
Fassel named Danny Kanell the team's starting quarterback, and the team finished 10-5-1 and made the playoffs in 1997.[3] After losing in the first round to the Vikings in 1997, the Giants needed four wins to close out the season to finish 8-8 in 1998.

Before the 1999 season Kerry Collins was brought in to helm the team. Collins was the first-ever draft choice of the expansion Carolina Panthers in 1995, and led the Panthers to the NFC Championship game in his second season. However, problems with alcohol, conflicts with his teammates and questions about his character led to his release from the Panthers.[24] The Giants finished 7-9 in 1999.[3] The 2000 season was considered a make-or-break year for Fassel. The conventional wisdom was that Fassel needed to have a strong year and a playoff appearance to save his job. After two back-to-back losses at home against St. Louis and Detroit, the Giants fell to 7-4[25] and their playoff prospects were in question. At a press conference following the Giants' loss to Detroit, Fassel guaranteed that "[t]his team is going to the playoffs."[26] The Giants responded, winning the rest of their regular season games to finish the season 12-4[25] and earn a bye as the NFC's top seed.

The Giants won their first playoff game against the Philadelphia Eagles, 20-10, and defeated the Minnesota Vikings 41-0 in the NFC Championship game.[25] They advanced to play the Baltimore Ravens in Super Bowl XXXV. Though the Giants went into halftime down 10-0,[27] the Ravens dominated the second half. Their defense harassed Kerry Collins all game long, resulting in Collins completing only 15 of 39 passes for 112 yards and 4 interceptions.[27] The Ravens won the game 34-7.[27]

The Giants struggled after their Super Bowl loss and Fassel was replaced by current coach Tom Coughlin in 2004. Although Collins had several solid seasons as the Giants quarterback, he experienced his share of struggles. In 2004, the Giants completed a draft day trade acquiring quarterback Eli Manning out of the University of Mississippi.[28] Manning has been the team's starting quarterback since the middle of the 2004 season, taking over for Kurt Warner. Coughlin's tenure has also produced inconsistent results (a 25-23 record and two playoff appearances--both losses[29]) and spawned intense media scrutiny concerning the direction of the team.[30] During this period in their history, standout players include defensive end Michael Strahan, who set the NFL single season record in sacks in 2001,[31] and running back Tiki Barber, who set a team record for rushing yards in a season in 2005.[32] As of 2007, the Giants have made the playoffs in two consecutive seasons

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Bye bye boofer imposter

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

DC, I think the poster's issue was that it hasn't made a difference in how many posts we get here.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Arghhh, your team is sorry. You really can say nothing to us. You have fewer Super Bowl Wins, Fewer Championships, Fewer Franchise Wins. Your coach looks like a mouse and sucks. Your D has quite two games in a row and you haven't won a game yet.

I have no idea who will win this weekend, it's the NFC East and the Gmen could surely win.

Having said that, if you wanna history: You lose.

Wanna talk this season? You lose.

Scram kid.

Posted by: Yar, sometimes I wonder why I bother plunderin' at all. | September 19, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying that Jason Reid doesn't contribute - he has and I expect he will continue to do so. I'm saying that his contribution has not yet resulted in more Redskins news. With twice the guys on the beat, you'd think you'd get more than the same old one story + "notebook" per day. Compare coverage of other area teams (even the Ravens and Orioles) and you might agree that the Redskins get less than they deserve, given the revenue they generate for washingtonpost.com and the print version - Express included.

I'm just saying - I love the team and want to read more about them. I don't love the Washington Times and don't want to have to go there for my team's news.

Posted by: More News Please | September 19, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Also good to see Soup avoid the blitz and make a few plays on his feet. Those would have been sacks and punts for Brunell. In today's NFL, you need a QB who can make a few plays with his feet.

Posted by: Gregskins | September 19, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

All of the above notwithstanding, this new undrafted Giants kid, Derrick Ward, looks like he could be as tough as Westbrook. Assuming Eli has adopted the Brunell approach to injury candor ("I'm fine, nothing to worry about, I tear the labrum in my throwing shoulder all the time"), I see the Giants focusing on their running game more heavily. I do think the Skins can back off from reliance on the cover-3 shell b/c it will be just like Brunell last year -- wide open receivers deep ... watching the dink and dunk 40 yards back.

Another, more serious question though. And answer objectively -- without your NFC East opponent hatred on -- who wins this weekend, Cowboys or Bears? [ignore who'se favored, the spread and your despisitude ... think injuries and roster weaknesses.]

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

More News Please, I'm thinking it might take him a few games to get to know the players and coaches ... at least enough that they will trust/talk to him with some juicy quotes ... plus he needs to find a few reliable insiders who are "talent evaluators" and NFL execs. wink wink.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

That was a fake Giants fan.

Come on, we need a real dose of NYC bigheadedness.

It's gonna be tough for a fan of an 0-2 team to represent, but I have faith someone is out there who can bring us some jints heat--until, as I said, the ceremonial ripping-out-of-the-heart on Sunday.

Or maybe that prospect is a bit offputting to lurking Giants fans/potential vict--er, visitors?

Posted by: farstriker | September 19, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Yar - I don't see Gints doin' NUTHIN in this game.

Point to a matchup they win, somebody - burst my bubble, I dare ya ;-)

Posted by: Dik | September 19, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

DC,

As much as I try to be objective, I still think the Cowboys 2-0 is (or rather should be) under the same scruntiny as the Redskins. Although they have a good chance to win this week, I think we see the Bears win an ugly one. If the Cowboys do beat the Bears, then they may be as good as the hand-jobbing media says they are.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Dik, left side of their D-line vs right side of ours is the only thing that comes to my mind.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I give up. My beef is not with Reid, okay? He knows what he's doing, he's already written articles and had stuff printed and he only just got here. I see that, everyone sees that. But where are the updates from Redskins Park in RI? We're getting fewer than when Reid got here, not more. Why can't Jasno and Reid BOTH write something for the paper? Why settle for the little we get and not demand/expect more from what many people used to think was one of the top two papers in the country?

Posted by: More News Please | September 19, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

It comes down to advertising...anyone have any good leads on who we can get to beef up the Sports section? More advertising=more pages. More pages=more coverage. Simple as that.

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Redskirt?

Hey, who wears the pants around here anyway? Oh that's right, neither of us. Sorry, carry on.

"Tax-Evadin' Sam Dread"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 19, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

96,561

Posted by: MV Dame | September 19, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, between us we have a Redcoat and a Redskirt.

No Redshirt though, only Redskins...

Hm.

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

JesusCristobal MNP! It's the middle of the week. They won Monday night. Randy Thomas had surgery this morning. Daniels and Smoot are healing. There will be more news later today on those fronts. Got this whole new generation that thinks everything is 24/7 news constantly. Relax. Get a hobby. Can't make the news up. when it happens, it happens. it is what it is. they are who we thought they were who we knew we want to be but aren't yet....etc. etc.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey, bring that Gints fan back - real or not I don't care. The ONLY things I have to look forward to this season are:

v. Two games against Buffalo - yay! (ugh)
7. The Gints on 10/28.

They're all that stands between us and an (im) perfect 0-16 season!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 19, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

WHO: The Crickets
SONG: Still of the Night (Whitesnake)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 19, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys lose by at least 10 points this week, the Bears are the worst matchup for them in the entire league.

The Bears run the ball well vs. a 3-4 front with no starting nose tackle

The Bears play suffocatingly good D (limit LT to 29 yards) vs. two good not great backs and only one legit WR

The Bears LB's take TE's out of games vs. the Cowboys rely heavily on Witten as a mismatch for teams, with Urlacher and Briggs he isn't.

The one thing Rex can do is hit the big play vs. the Cowboys have the worst cover safeties in the league and are extremely susceptible to bombs (Santana Moss) and they're gonna be creeping up trying to help stop Benson.

Prediction: The Boys get one TD on their own and they get one from Rex. The Bears get one from their D, one from Hester, and three from their O.

Bears 35
Cowboys 14

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Redskirt
SONG: The Lady in Red (Chris de Burgh)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 19, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

So lets line up Sellers over on the Right ;-p

REDBEARD Arrrrr!

Posted by: Dik | September 19, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat + Redskirt =

http://www.paulrobertspaintings.co.uk/'80%20-%20'90/assets/The%20Red%20Suit.jpg

Wouldn't feel so bad about that then I suppose.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 19, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Anon. I forgot the battle cry around these parts (after SIGN CHRIS COOLEY!) is DEMAND MEDIOCRITY!

Keep lowering those expectations and making excuses and you won't be disappointed.

Posted by: More News Please | September 19, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

sincityskinsfan, Deuce of Davenport is legit. And the nickname is tight...

New RI Cafepress shirt for London Fletcher. Check it out guys:

https://www.cafepress.com/redskinsinsider

Hope you guys like it. As always, all proceeds go to New Orleans Habitat For Humanity.

HAIL!

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | September 19, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

3-0 here we come!!!

Posted by: NC ICU RN | September 19, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Cap'n Skyler Dullblade. Arrrrgh. Dull?

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah - I better get my lovin' durin' tha week, 'cause if the 'Skins take over solo lead of the division, the GF ain't gonna be too happy (read 'Redskin fan freezes sleeping on couch')

...hehehehe.

arr..

Posted by: Dik | September 19, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

A pirate walks into a barand sits down with a monkey holding a stearing wheel in his lap.

Bartender asks "What's your monkey doing?"

Pirate says, "Are he be drivin' me nuts"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

My thoughts exactly, MV Dame, thanks for the song.

Dik, is the GF a Giant/Cowboy fan? or just uninterested?

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I say cowboys take the game.

Both defenses are good enough to stop the others offense (i.e. Bears O being terrible against a similarly bad d and the Bears good D against a good cowpies O).

So there will be an X factor. The boys have one (Owens) and the Bears have one (Hester).

Owens will see more opportunities to impact the game then Hester. I really doubt Hester will actually catch any punts as I would instruct him to kick the ball outta bounds.... everytime.

Girls - 21
Bears -14

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I think it bears saying that you guys have made a good start, AND...

It looks like the NFC East is not going to be as strong as many predicted this year. Sure the Eagles have to play better at some point but that's not guaranteed, and the Gints? Well, they are what we thought they were - crown them.

The Cowboys look like they blew us (Fins) out in that game, but we certainly helped them by self-destructing even worse than the week before when we turned 1st and goal at the 8 into 2nd and goal at the 28 in two bone-headed plays. Until we start screwing up royally against the Grrls we were actually winning the game (although I think that they would have found a way to win anyway).

I think that the Skins have a chance to get a good run going, but hope it doesn't turn into '05 for you except in terms of outcome - do you remember how your great start that year turned into a slump that needed a 5-0 finish to get you to the playoffs?

I don't think you'll even get an idea of where you are when you play the Grrls, they look like they could bomb badly in some games with that defense, but when you play the Eagles second time around (if they fix their issues) and the Patriots, you'll get a chance to see if you can get to the playoffs or actually contend properly.

But what a seson to look forward to.

Unlike some other teams. ....

Ugh.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 19, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

How can you say both defenses are good?

The Cowboys gave up 35 at home to the Giants with a dinged Manning and a done Jacobs, and Miami was moving the ball easily and scoring.

To me the Cowboys D looks suspect at best, hence a Tank Johnson signing.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

OIC, you said the were good enough, but I disagree, they don't match up against the only things the Bears do well, run the ball and throw the bomb. (and I'm just saying, that seems to be emerging as what the Redskins do well too!!!!)

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

When have the Bears run well or thrown the bomb well?

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the Bears game going that way.

After being called a Mental Midget this week, Rex will be out to prove he is actually a Mental Pygmy. There's no chance the Bears put up 35 with no QB, horrible receivers, and Cedric Benchin' at RB. Unless Hester returns 5 punts.

Crayton and Hurd are decent WRs. Crayton broke his pinkie last week. The bone punctured the skin, requiring 5 stitches, and he returned to the game. Would The WR have done that?

Bears will probably eek this out, but I'm thinking 17-16.

Posted by: Cap'n Edward Poopdeck | September 19, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

(and I'm just saying, that seems to be emerging as what the Redskins do well too!!!!)

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 12:43 PM

(oh please yes). Just a little less lift on those throws, JC, just a little less lift...

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

thanks Ben;

Jack, Eli isnt Rex. trent Green isnt even Rex.

Rex Grossman will not play well against that blitzing style defense.

At Cowboys Stadia, they win

Posted by: Zebra | September 19, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

PFT's rankings

http://www.profootballtalk.com/WeekTwoPowerRankings.htm

5. Dallas Cowboys (2-0): We smell a statement game this weekend against the Bears. (Or maybe Tank Johnson has been eating summer sausage again.)

14. Washington Redskins (2-0): We wish they played the Cowboys before the middle of November.

23. Philadelphia Eagles (0-2): Things went from bad to horrendous on Monday night.

31. New York Giants (0-2): This team's mojo apparently was kept under Ernie Accorsi's scalp-shaped welcome mat.

Posted by: bigfish | September 19, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Z. There is a difference between hoping and thinking. I'm coming around to the idea that Dallas is legit. Hester can change this game dramatically however. Either way we find out this weekend but i think.

Dallas 17
Chi-town 13

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

It's at Soldier.

Posted by: Cap'n Edward Poopdeck | September 19, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I think the bottom line on the Bears-Cowboys is turnovers. The Bears are capable to turn it over as well as create turnovers. It is up to the Bears keeping the ball and taking it away.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Who care about Dallas, important thing is we win. Whenever others panic, we pounce. Let's hope that's what GG and Gibbs are telling their team right now.

As usual I'm clutch on slow news days. CL, I need my pat please.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=274597

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"No Redshirt though, only Redskins..."

Posted by: redskirt | September 19, 2007 12:21 PM

I think Newton has some law of thermodynamics about how shirts and skins cannot co-exist in the same universe. Kind of like there only being one Highlander.

What is the story about the Bears secondary (other than having Archubingus in there). Will they be able to keep Romo from going deep?

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The Bears have thrown the bomb well to Berrian, very well last year and haven't yet but the one thing Rex does throw well is the skinny post and the deep ball. Benson is a good back, he played San Diego week one (tough D against everyone who doesn't have Tom Brady and Randy Moss) but rushed for over 100 yards last week. The Cowboys better get there against a good O-line or else the have Roy "whatta you mean coverage?" Williams try to run with Berrian.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

That definately was a fake Gints fan.Tell me something,when we were 0-2 last year,did any of us give a damn about going to another teams blog to see what they were talking about?HELL NO!!! Case closed.

Posted by: dawglbs | September 19, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The Bears defense will put the pressure on Romo to make some mistakes. Jones and Barber won't be much of a factor either. Just like last year, Rex will have one of his 400yd passing days that he often had after a bad game the week before, especially against the Cowboys weak pass coverage. I see the Bears winning this one.

Posted by: bigfish | September 19, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The key to consistent winnig in this or any other league is to focus first on thine own self. Care nothing for what other teams do against each other. Focus on what we do against our own opponents, and we will win. HAIL

Posted by: Neil | September 19, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I am excited to see the other Moss catch a pass around Area 51 during the week 8 match up to make him remember that he used to be a Raider.

Posted by: Stop | September 19, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Neil, very true...........for the players.

This is a fan blog, it doesn't effect the focus of the team or the performance, we can and should observe, watch, and worry what the other teams are doing.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

If you were the Giants, what would you do to score points and what would you do to stop this offense?

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

For all you that said Springs played, just take a look at picture 15 and see him standing on the sideline on the most important play of the game:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/070917/GAL-07Sep17-88369/index.html

Springs was missing from about half of the defensive snaps because Gregg Williams' ego prevents him from making rational decisions.

Posted by: Springs Played Very Little | September 19, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Power rankings from Vegas Sports Consultants...copied from Steinbog

1. NEW ENGLAND
2. INDIANAPOLIS
3. SAN DIEGO
4. DALLAS
5. CHICAGO
6. PITTSBURGH
7. BALTIMORE
8, SEATTLE
9. CINCINNATI
10. DENVER
11. NEW ORLEANS
12. WASHINGTON
13 -> Who cares, but Giants are 28

Posted by: Cap'n Poopdeck | September 19, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Springs Played Very Little,

You are so far behind....it was reported yesterday that Springs was cramping up late in the game. That is why he was not playing.

Posted by: Lisa | September 19, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I know CL and a lot of others up here disagree, but I like it when the Skins and Cowboys are good at the same time. Elevates the rivalry, and all that. Especially when our games mean something, when both teams have something on the line.

So what I'm saying is, since the Skins so far have looked good and tough and given us hope for more of same, it's fine with me if the Cowboys win this game and a few more before we play them. Though seeing them utterly embearrassed in Chicago would be fine, too.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Great pic. Thanks for posting.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

If I was Tommy two games (as in fired in two more games)

Offense:
I'd throw lots of passes in the flats and intermediate to my backs (worked both games against us so far) and I'd take three to five shots a quarter at Rogers, based on his history he can't pick it off, and you'll beat him a couple times or get several PI calls.

On defense:
Still think the best thing to do is Blitz and I'd blitz heavy on the right side. Make Campbell beat you with his arm, I'd double Moss, and man up everywhere else and blitz.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

However, I don't think that's going to work this week, we'll be able to drop Landry a little bit further off the line b/c there's no Westbrook on the field this week so the intermediate stuff shouldn't be there and Sean can help out deep. On offense, I think Campbell proved he'll hang in on the blitz and dumps to Cooley or ARE could turn into big gainers. Not to mention that 30 yard screen to Betts that was a perfect play call by Saunders.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I will believe you Lisa when I see Springs play a full game as #1 corner. Until then, there is no excuse why anybody on our roster should play ahead of our best cover guy -- not Double Move 22 or Riverboat Gambler.

Let's not underestimate what an a-hole Gregg can be.

Posted by: Springs Played Very Little | September 19, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

You can't man everyone, double Moss and blitz. But I think pressure on Cambell would still be the key.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Skinz thanks for the link gophering...community aggregation baby!

Nate puleez....cowpukes should always suk...no quarter!!!!!!!

Posted by: chris laRry | September 19, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Springs played very little because he was cramping, it was reported after the game and on Redskins Radio yesterday.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Just want to say that it sucks to lose Randy! I hope he can make it back for a postseason run... He is such a classy genuine Man and it sucks to see things like this happen to such a good guy not to mention the great football player he is... Let's pray that it isn't as bad as it could be...

HTTR...

Good Luck Randy.

Posted by: E in VB | September 19, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

He didn't play hardly in the first game because of some lame excuse from our coaches and now we are to believe late game cramping kept him out of plays earlier in the game?

You guys can believe the propaganda....I'll wait until Springs is our #1 corner consistently again to believe the BS coming out of the Park right now.

This organization is kidding themselves if they think they are gonna just magically find another corner like Springs next year when they let him go.

Posted by: Springs Played Very Little | September 19, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Jack and Lisa, not that I am a hater, but that Springs was cramping doesn't do much to quiet the doubters of his fitness (for you, Redcoat and kost) to be a 16-game player at this point in his career.

Skinz -- thanks for the link-work, bud.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 19, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

first!

Posted by: first | September 19, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Jack, I do agree with you. We are a just bunch of folks with too much time on our hands. Supposing is what we do best.

Posted by: Neil | September 19, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I love when people are presented with a reason, a valid reason why something happened, a TRUE representation of why something happened in the manner it did, and they choose to just ignore it, and continue on their own sophmoric rant.

Springs was cramping.

Believe what you want, just don't make it our problem that you're a moron.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 19, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Nate! My favorite 'skins wins have always been against good Dallas teams. There is no head hung lower than a proud head. In my view, Dallas fans have always been the too proudest. I hate 'em, everyone of 'em.

Posted by: Neil | September 19, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Today's Darwin award winner.

Back to work for now... Hail!

http://www.local6.com/problemsolvers/14139408/detail.html

Posted by: 4-12 | September 19, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Dude - Let it go. If you would pay attention to the press conferences, releases, radio, etc. then you would understand. There doesn't always have to be a conspiracy theory to everything. Did you happen to get tasered lately at a Kerry speach?

Posted by: bigfish | September 19, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

They gave what was supposed to be a "true" reason the first week, and when asked, Springs said he had no clue what they were talking about.

A conspiracy theorist will often look for a problem without proof. I am simply hesitant to believe them after the shady happenings of Week 1.

Posted by: Springs Played Very Little | September 19, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Alright, that drew me out of soon sound asleep slumber. Springs does not have to be sent packing next year. Everything is dependent on this season. All of which includes Springs play as well as the team's advancement into the post-season. If everybody happy, restructure. Which is not a paycut. Smoot who sucked in Minni got 7M just to sign here. So Shawn knows what he's doing. The 'skins knew what they were doing when they offered a different deal and then still kept him. The dude has a valuable role on this team and everyone knows it. Stop with the Greg is an assh.. until it is absolutely certain that he is.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Conspiracy theorist. Do you truly believe they are retaliating against Springs or that Gibbs would allow a vendetta to place Macklin in over Springs in the final two minutes with Philly driving?

I understand why you think it but why would GG pull him in the final 2 minutes with the game on the line and let him play the first 3 quarters. Makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

OK- One more...people actually paid money to do, um, it with, um, them?!?!

***Warning Warning*** If you've recently had anything to eat, it might revisit you when you see the pics...

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14140253/detail.html

Posted by: 4-12 | September 19, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

4-12 what a liar. She told me she was 61....I mean uh...no idea who would ever pay for that.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

4-12, sailors used to say, "Any port in a storm." The day will come when you are 60 years old and 60 year old women will look good to you. But...that story is more than a stretch. That's a retch!

Posted by: Neil | September 19, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

4th,

Ref: Darwin. Great story but he's the payoff, "It is kind of my own stupid fault"

It's "kind of" your own stupid fault? Kind of??????

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs is an A$$hat. Why would he not be starting Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen this week against the Giants? They can try to convince us all they want that those two are hurt but I'm not buying it. You people can believe whatever you want.

Posted by: bigfish | September 19, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I am not a conspiracy theorist. But Week 1 was completely ridiculous -- the coaches saying a player was hurt, and the player not knowing what the hell they were talking about?

Just hesitant until proven otherwise.

Posted by: Springs Played Very Little | September 19, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

First off...Sean Springs is our best corner, but he is injury-prone. When healthy, he's the best we've got, but it's that age old saying...better to get rid of him a year too early than a year too late. They're going to have to moe on at some point. While Carlos Rogers continues to develop, that's one position where I would look for a solid free agent corner and then draft one in the first three rounds. We cannot afford a rookie corner on one side and double move on the other. But right now, Springs is our starter and that's it.

Posted by: sicwidit | September 19, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Last one. I swear. Too many great ones today to not share with my RI peeps. Love the quote from the judge in the article... "I'm sure that your client didn't hoover the carpets".

OK- Seriously out for a while. Still soaking up the 2-0!!!!!!!

http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,22445356-5005940,00.html

Posted by: 4-12 | September 19, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Not to be contrary...but M. Brunell didn't seem to realize he was hurt last year.

Off to bed. Dreaming of 3-0.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 19, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Oh...and let me address this conspiracy thing. Unless you have proof or a reliable source to say this was a vendetta against Springs, shut your spitbucket and enjoy 2-0!!!

Posted by: sicwidit | September 19, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the Greg Williams bashers... Give the Man some credit... He doesn't put up with the BullSJK from underacheiving and or overpaid players... You guys will b1tch about JG for not taking a hard stance on some issues or players (IE B.Llyod) but then you bash GW for being a hard a$$ and doing what is best for the team... He plays the best players regardless of their salary, draft status or what have you... Yes... Everybody was pissed for him benching Lavar for not playing the scheme and wanting to be a freelancer, but none of us really know whether Lavar still had it after the knee issues... I like Lavar but maybe he was really done his will/desire to be a team player and do what he was told was too much for him to accept... He seemed to have issues with almost every Defensive coordinator that coached him (in one way or another)... Maybe his issues were really with Dale Lindsey. I don't know... but lay off GW.

Shawn Springs was basically GW's biggest proponent following all the chaos with the ESPN (tom friend) article last year. There is no bone to pick there... Let's face it, Shawn is injury prone and has been ever since he left Ohio State... That was the big knock on him when he left Seattle to come here... There is no way GW doesn't play Springs if he's good to go. PERIOD.

I am a GW supporter, because he doesn't dilly dally with the BS. you know he tells it like it is behind closed doors and is not afraid to let someone have it when they need it... I hope that Greg or Al gets takes over the Redskins Helm after Joe walks off into the sunset once and for all... May we keep both and hopefully the best man wins the HC job there...

I am with you GW.

Posted by: E in VB | September 19, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, if he doesn't know that he is hurt, and the coaches are right to limit him, then I am way off base.

I just want don't want to fall for any BS considering the recent rocky relationship with Springs.

I'll be back on here after a couple of games to eat crow and say I was wrong if it works out that way.

Posted by: Springs Played Little | September 19, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

...had since cleaned up his life and that he was now the father of a seven-month-old child.

A Dirt Devil?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 19, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Hahahaha, they should play Thomas and Jansen, those guy haven't come out and agreed they're injured so that must mean Joe's not telling the truth and has vendetta against them....lol, Springs himself said after his talk with Gibbs he understood, he said "I did get my leg wrapped b/c that's what vets do" (not many vets I know get things wrapped just because), the fact is, he is injury prone, especially with his legs and they thought they could win without having to play him a lot (they were right btw) and wanted to be safe and have him for 16 games not 2.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs' greatest sin since his return was his blind loyalty to Brunell. Brunell was not effective, he hid an injury and not practicing Campbell at all with starters until week 9 is ridiculous. With a playoff appearance, though, all is forgiven!

Posted by: sicwidit | September 19, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

bigfish at 1:44, funny, funny. "Gibbs is an A$$hat." really caught my eye. Well done, sir.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"a makeshift sex aid constructed from a Toilet Duck bottle, a piece of wood and a latex glove had also been left behind."

MacGyver has nothing on this guy. WTF?

Posted by: bigfish | September 19, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame, you too. You guys took your funny pills today!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Posted by: bigfish | September 19, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

beep beep. too late!

Posted by: bigfish | September 19, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

We need a new post... cindy. Its your BOREN ultimatum. Make it happen!

Posted by: Dorf | September 19, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

new post abides....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

"I am not a conspiracy theorist."

Yes you are! Don't lie.

If your not, you're gonna have to prove otherwise. HA!


Posted by: chuck | September 19, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

SPVL, I think everybody up here agrees that Springs is our best CB, and we wish he were out there for every defensive snap, and it's perplexing when he's not in the game.

I will agree with you that there is a considerable credibility gap, so it's hard for many of us to read any team statement on why Springs hasn't played as 100% "true." Even coming from Saint Joseph.

I'm just happy that the D overall has looked much better than it did last year, and that there hasn't been a huge dropoff when Springs has been on the bench. Losing him last year was a killer.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 19, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I love the nicknames you give for some of the players:

Double Move- Carlos Rogers, lol.
Riverboat Gambler- Fred Smoot
Curchill- London Fletcher
The Reaper- Sean Taylor
Area 51- Taylor and Landry, makes perfect sense, in more ways than one.
Soups- Jason Campbell
The Receiver- Brandon Lloyd

Although Chris Cooley has many nicknames, he dosen't have one on RI. Maybe I just haven't seen it yet, if not WE must get him one, same with Portis.

I love how Joe Gibbs refers to Mike Sellers as "A Man". A 6-3 280 FB? Yeah he's a F'n man!!!

Getting back to Brandon Lloyd. I hate to do it, but I feel like speaking on it. Brandon Lloyd simply lacks what most athletes lack to prevent them from taking it to the next level, initiative. Brandon Lloyd when inquired about around the league will be generally categorized as "A player with god given talent" and "Lacks initiative". Maybe we as spectators sometimes forget that athletes are humans too. We don't expect them to have the same negative qualities that every other person on this earth has. If your co-worker gets busted for a DUI, for example, we say to them 'Aw man, do you know how many times I got behind the wheel after having a couple of bears? You were just unlucky and got caught'. If someone who is an athlete we say 'What a dumb a$$. I can't believe he's willing to throw it all away.' Yeah, kinda like you are after knocking back a couple of 8 ounces while watching the Skins whip up on the Giants this Sunday, (I can do great promo, GO SKINS!) then carry your drunk a$$ behind thw wheel of your car. What I'm saying is STOP putting these guys on the pedestal. STOP worshiping these MEN and WOMEN athletes. They are entitled to a few screw ups, hell some grew up screw ups and was able to put the ball in a basket or catch the ball better than anyone else.

Brandon Lloyd is a good football player, but a lousy person, as far as we know. The man does have a family, who knows what type of person he is when he is at the crib. We can only generalize what we think of Lloyd based on what he does on the field. Hey I'm with you guys as far as him being the worst free agent bust of all time and his days here appear and should be over. But before you start to put for sale signs on his lawn, just try to imagine what it must feel like to be Brandon Lloyd for one day.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 19, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

just try to imagine what it must feel like to be Brandon Lloyd for one day.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 19, 2007 02:08 PM

i'd feel like a thief. a thief that stole $10 million dollars and got away with it. that's what i'd feel like

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

You don't even know the guy, he might be a great person.

As a football player and teammate, he's terrible, but you don't know anything about him personally and I have never read or heard anything about him negatively off the field, hold of on calling Lloyd a terrible person.

Posted by: Jack | September 19, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Damn people! C'mon! Money isn't F'n everything, maybe to ordinaries like you and I, but not these guys. And you can't blame Lloyd for the money he makes. If he knew he wasn't worth a 30mil contract, do you honestly think he wouldn't have signed it. "You know guys I don't do everything a WR should do, so 30mil maybe just a little too much how about 13 over 4 yrs.?" How F'n stupid does that sound? They offered, he took it. Peroid. Yes, on a monthly basis he comes to redskins park donning a ski mask and waving .45 handgun, but you can't blame him. He did what 50% athletes do when they get the heafty contract. Slack. I can give you so, so many guys who forgot about their sport after receiving millions. Brandon Lloys isn't the first and not the last.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 19, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you "E-in VB"...

Williams is one of the top D-Coordinators and like all coaches he has conflicts with players. It seems Springs is cool now and he has the defense playing well. I especially like how they are working in all of their corners Torrence, Macklin, Smoot. It's called DEPTH people!!!

Posted by: sicwidit | September 19, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Cap'n Ronny Deadweight

Argh!

Posted by: Stumped | September 19, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait for the boy to become a man.

Make the Receiver walk the Plank!

Posted by: Cap'n Ronny Deadweight | September 19, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

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