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Redskins add running back James Davis to practice squad

Updated: 11:27 a.m.: Davis will take Jeremiah Johnson's place on the practice squad. Johnson was signed to the practice squad Tuesday evening and was a member of the team for less than 12 hours.

The Redskins had just two running backs available for last Sunday's game against the Chicago Bears but will have one more in pads as they return to the practice field Wednesday.

The team is expected to add to its practice squad second-year running back James Davis, who was released earlier this week by the Cleveland Browns. It was not immediately clear whose roster spot Davis would be taking. The Redskins had signed running back Jeremiah Johnson to the practice squad one day earlier.

Washington had only running backs Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams available Sunday. Chad Simpson, who has primarily been a special teams contributer, injured his hamstring in practice last Friday and wasn't available in Chicago. Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Monday he hoped Simpson would be able to practice this week.

After four years at Clemson, Davis was selected by the Browns in the seventh-round of the 2009 draft. He played in just two games last season, tallying 15 yards on nine carries, before he was placed on the injured reserve list on Oct. 3, 2009.

Davis, who's listed at 5-feet-11 and 218 pounds, had a very limited role in the Browns' offense this season before his release Monday. He was inactive in three of Cleveland's past four games and had only nine yards on four carries this season.

Davis had apparently grown frustrated with his role in Cleveland. He tweeted Monday afternoon: "Finally was granted with my wish."

By Rick Maese  | October 27, 2010; 8:54 AM ET
 
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He played in just two games last season, tallying 15 yards on nine carries, before he was placed on the injured reserve list on Oct. 3, 2009.

By Rick Maese | October 27, 2010; 8:54 AM ET

Impressive...can't wait to see him.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I Told You So.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/running-backs/redskins-sign-jeremiah-johnson.html

Johnson is going to be gone by tomorrow.
James Davis will be replacing him (released earlier by Cleveland).
Posted by: Rypien11 | October 26, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 27, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

ih8Dallas

I saw James Davis play in college, I thought he was a good runner.

Davis was an awesome back at Clemson.

Hopefully, he becomes the guy who spells RT.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse


how many backs have we had on the roster / practice squad this year ?

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

big props to ryp for calling his shot...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

The team is expected to add to its practice squad second-year running back James Davis, who was released earlier this week by the Cleveland Browns.

By Rick Maese | October 27, 2010; 8:54 AM ET

Not so fast there. The dude has to clear waivers, first, before he can be added to anyone's practice squad. Maybe the Redskins will file a waiver claim and add him to their roster?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Rypien, did you use your Sign Former Clemson RB James Davis on Oct. 27, 2010 formula to predict this?

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 27, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Tip of the cap to Ryp...good call, dude.

Alex, I'll be stunned if the Giants win 11 games...I doubt they do better than 10. Like I said yesterday, I don't trust that team down the stretch...they're notorious for peaking in October.

I still believe 10 wins will be enough to take the NFC East outright. Get to 10, win the division.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Greg.

He was the complement who ran behind Spiller... went to the Browns and had some injury troubles... didn't like their scheme, wanted to be released. Looks like he has some speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7LQgl07lE

I trust Shanny on his RB pickups....

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 27, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Alex, I'll be stunned if the Giants win 11 games...I doubt they do better than 10. Like I said yesterday, I don't trust that team down the stretch...they're notorious for peaking in October.

I still believe 10 wins will be enough to take the NFC East outright. Get to 10, win the division.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Even so, we really only have room for 3 losses.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Grossman over McNabb? Here's the argument against.
In e-mail we've received recently, many Insider readers have suggested that the Washington Redskins should bench Donovan McNabb and start backup quarterback Rex Grossman.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I am begining to think that JReid is using RI Hamsters as an excuse to write up something that is irrelevant. Everytime, Every MoFo time, he says he has been getting all these email from RI readers is bullcrap.......

Who the freak would want to start Grossman over McNabb? Have these people only watched the last game? Do they realize any points and production we have gotten from the offense is because if McNabb?

I'm starting think Redskins Fans are the most uneducated in football. Too many MoFos with degrees around here.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

hessone

how many backs have we had on the roster / practice squad this year ?

I don't know and can't say.

But I do like the team is out shaking the trees in search of one.

From somewhere, the next TDavis or OGary will be found, trust me.

And if he can't be found on the cheap now, he'll be drafted later.

Mark Ingraham ('Bama) would do wonders in our zone-blocking running attack as unlike RTorain, he has breakaway speed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Aren't there a couple of running backs on the street that spent the entire Training Camp with the Skins learning or being exposed to the system??? But we'd prefer to pick up other guys with no experience and knowledge of the system. How bad must they have been for Shanny to ignore them.

Posted by: sanantonioredskin | October 27, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

"Finally was granted with my wish."

If you say those exact words to Genie from a lamp...he docks you one of your 3 wishes.

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 27, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

beep, I'm pretty sure practice squad doesn't work the same way as the active roster...you're subject to waivers when signing on the active roster, I think the practice squad is the player's choice if more than one team wants him. Not 100% sure about that though...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Okay do you want a RB with some ability to run and pick up yards who's name you don't know, or do you want to go back to Larry Johnson because he was rated a 99 in Madden 04?

Shanahan knows RB talent when he sees it. Its the one area of scouting he has been great at all his career.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

But I do like the team is out shaking the trees in search of one.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2010 9:14 AM

Is shaking the trees the same as kicking the tires? Or do you kick the tires after you shake the trees?

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

beep, I'm pretty sure practice squad doesn't work the same way as the active roster...you're subject to waivers when signing on the active roster, I think the practice squad is the player's choice if more than one team wants him. Not 100% sure about that though...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 9:16 AM

I think you're right -- and I'm wrong.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Brian Burke = Rainman LITE

Posted by: monk811 | October 27, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Getting Laid Probability Added (GLPA) measures the change in this DB Brian Burke's chances of experiencing carnal knowledge from beer to beer. A 0.01 GLPA essentially says that this DB's chances of 'hitting it' are about as likely as Carlos Rogers making an INT.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | October 27, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Getting Laid Probability Added (GLPA) measures the change in this DB Brian Burke's chances of experiencing carnal knowledge from beer to beer. A 0.01 GLPA essentially says that this DB's chances of 'hitting it' are about as likely as Carlos Rogers making an INT.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | October 27, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

is this guy new? I kinda like him!

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I am begining to think that JReid is using RI Hamsters as an excuse to write up something that is irrelevant. Everytime, Every MoFo time, he says he has been getting all these email from RI readers is bullcrap.......

Who the freak would want to start Grossman over McNabb? Have these people only watched the last game? Do they realize any points and production we have gotten from the offense is because if McNabb?

I'm starting think Redskins Fans are the most uneducated in football. Too many MoFos with degrees around here.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I think JReid completely made up the part about "numerous e-mails" asking why Grossman isn't starting.

Numerous could be 2 e-mails, probably from Rex Grossman's serial stalker....Kind of like KurtShanaman for Colt Brennan.

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 27, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

just collecting big time college backs that haven't been able to crack a rb rotation in the nfl... btw, both returned kicks in college also and have good hands...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | October 27, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

The dude has to clear waivers, first, before he can be added to anyone's practice squad. Maybe the Redskins will file a waiver claim and add him to their roster?


Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 9:06 AM

He had to have cleared waivers if he is being signed to the PSqaud....to claim someone on waivers is to put them on your active roster.....

I see that Shanny treats his PSqaud like they are on the team so he can a 55/56 man roster.....I like...So, don't be surprised if he is activated for the Philly game if Portis still isn't ready...The he'll cut chad simpson...and put him on the PSqaud..

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Greg.

"He was the complement who ran behind Spiller... went to the Browns and had some injury troubles... didn't like their scheme, wanted to be released. Looks like he has some speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7LQgl07lE

I trust Shanny on his RB pickups...."

Actually Davis was the #1 back at Clemson while Spiller was there. He is a solid runner, quick and can pick up blitzes. I think this is a great pickup.

Posted by: CDB13 | October 27, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Someone called this move last night. Kudos. What's the deal here. Is Davis not good in pass pro or something. Dude has good potential.

Posted by: TWISI | October 27, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I am begining to think that JReid is using RI Hamsters as an excuse to write up something that is irrelevant. Everytime, Every MoFo time, he says he has been getting all these email from RI readers is bullcrap.......

Too many MoFos with degrees around here.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 9:13 AM

If you finally figured this out, you must be one of the MoFos with a degree.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Alex...RB is the most fungible position on offense and these guys don't need a full training camp to get the nuances of the playbook...if the guy has vision and the skillset to hit the hole quickly, he's got a place on a Shanahan roster.

I mean, did anyone hear of Olandis Gary before he got a shot in Denver? Mike Anderson? Terrell Davis? I think we'll be adding Torain to that list and James Davis could be a good change of pace for him.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I am secretly optimistic about this move. I enjoyed watching Davis when he played at Clemson. He's had some injury issues at this level, but he was good enough to split carries with C.J. Spiller.

This is one of those moves that seems a bit curious now, but could really end up paying off during the stretch run of this season. Davis is better than his pro stats indicate...

Posted by: MEssex | October 27, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

So basically, mcnabb sux, torain sux, haynesworth and hall are great, statistically speaking. This is right in line with my very popular opinions.

In every win the opposing coach has made a significant error. Gotta hand it to zornacool there. His game mgmt has been top notch.

They should do a stat analyses of teams with 15 players from the scrap heap. How good are they? Next year? How good is the oldest team in the league? Next year?

So my opinions are backed up statistically, those who oppose me are backed up by? Kool aid?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 27, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I've been pretty hard on McNabb this season... but it would be an utter disaster if Grossman took over for him. I can't imagine how anyone could seriously try to argue otherwise.


McNabb has been amazing at avoiding the sack... it's doubtful Grossman would last 2 full games behind our O-line.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

On the lighter side of things... Any1 notice the trees and bushes turning burgundy and gold?!?! I think it's a sign for good things to come.

Posted by: roccoskins | October 27, 2010 8:29 AM

Good one, rocco. Only problem is they did the same thing last year and, well...

Wait. Did they turn maroon and black last fall?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Yea, the trees weren't that colorful last year. This year the trees light up the streets.

Posted by: roccoskins | October 27, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Benching McNabb would be ridiculous. He is the best quarterback we have had since Thiesman. Little inaccurate who cares he makes up for it with scrambling. We need a receiver and a back that can catch on 3rd downs.

Posted by: vincentc | October 27, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

If you finally figured this out, you must be one of the MoFos with a degree.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 9:29 AM

I am.......but am an exception...I balance it out by hanging out with my friends who don't (maybe 1 does).....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

And to think we were having a nice morning up in here...oh well....

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Two excellent young cheap pickups at RB, and both have talent.

Might not have to "waste" a draft pick on a RB now.

Posted by: PCinOz | October 27, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

James Davis makes some monster cut backs...our one cut system could be perfect for him. Browns fans thought he could be the next Jim Brown..

Posted by: roccoskins | October 27, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Greg.

He was the complement who ran behind Spiller... went to the Browns and had some injury troubles... didn't like their scheme, wanted to be released. Looks like he has some speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7LQgl07lE

I trust Shanny on his RB pickups....

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 27, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

He was actually front runner at Clemson. CJ Spiller was his complement. CJ Spiller took the reigns after Davis declared for the NFL draft

Posted by: psock1 | October 27, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I like the James Davis signing.

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 27, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

If we want to beat the lions 3 obvious keys need to be accomplished..

1. Shut down Jahvid Best

2. Protect McNabb from Suh

3. Do NOT let Doughty be the help over the top against Calvin Johnson

Posted by: SteveOman | October 27, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

McNabb has been amazing at avoiding the sack... it's doubtful Grossman would last 2 full games behind our O-line.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 9:33 AM


I'd take the under on two full DRIVES, let alone games...

pabrian, got a quote from Raheem Morris I want you to read:

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats and we'll keep looking at wins."

Just let the marinate...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

McNabb has been amazing at avoiding the sack... it's doubtful Grossman would last 2 full games behind our O-line.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 9:33 AM


I'd take the under on two full DRIVES, let alone games...

pabrian, got a quote from Raheem Morris I want you to read:

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats and we'll keep looking at wins."

Just let that marinate...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

went to the Browns and had some injury troubles... didn't like their scheme, wanted to be released. Looks like he has some speed:


Posted by: Rypien11 | October 27, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Being tackled by linebackers when you don't have pads on has a tendency to lead to injury troubles.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 27, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Benching McNabb would be ridiculous. He is the best quarterback we have had since Thiesman. Little inaccurate who cares he makes up for it with scrambling. We need a receiver and a back that can catch on 3rd downs.

Posted by: vincentc | October 27, 2010 9:34 AM

McNabb's body of work in Philly is better, but he's not the "best since Theisman" until he does it in burgundy and gold. Mark Rypien and Doug Williams helped win SBs after Theisman.

As of now, McNabb hasn't even demonstrated he's the best since Brad Johnson for the Skins.

But I agree, benching him for Grossman would be ridiculous.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Browns fans thought he could be the next Jim Brown..

Posted by: roccoskins | October 27, 2010 9:44 AM

That would be nice...but we are talking about BROWNS fans here...I think Brady Quinn was going to be the Dan Marino.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

str8, is that how he got hurt?? I remember hearing about that....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Browns fans thought he could be the next Jim Brown..

Posted by: roccoskins | October 27, 2010 9:44 AM

Browns fans? Do we trust them? I don't think so.

Diesel44 thinks he can be the next John Riggins. Monk811 thinks he will be our new area code. And Chia_Pet thinks he is a pot for a sunny window.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

He was actually front runner at Clemson. CJ Spiller was his complement. CJ Spiller took the reigns after Davis declared for the NFL draft

Posted by: psock1 | October 27, 2010 9:47 AM

You are right. Thanks for clarifying.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 27, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Do they bench QBs with winning records?

And if so... WHY?!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Aren't there a couple of running backs on the street that spent the entire Training Camp with the Skins learning or being exposed to the system??? But we'd prefer to pick up other guys with no experience and knowledge of the system. How bad must they have been for Shanny to ignore them.

Posted by: sanantonioredskin | October 27, 2010 9:14 AM

It's not necessarily that they're that bad, although thats certainly part of it. It's that we know what we get with them.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 27, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Do they bench QBs with winning records?

And if so... WHY?!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

On dumb teams

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

str8, is that how he got hurt?? I remember hearing about that....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Depends on how much you trust Roger Goodell.

He did get injured in practice. League did investigation and said no policies were violated.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 27, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Do they bench QBs with winning records?

And if so... WHY?!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2010 10:00 AM

Todd Collins got demoted from 2nd to 3rd string in Chicago after QB'ing his team to a 23-6 win against the Panthers.

WHY?! Because he sucked... big time.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse


I think you're right -- and I'm wrong.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 27, 2010 9:19 AM |

MARK THIS DAY IN HISTORY !

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Hate to bring this up...but the Eagles and Packers ahead of us in the ESPN Power Rankings. That's all.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Davis was a #6 pick of the Browns in 2009. Why is it so hard for the Insider folks to get basic facts correct?

Davis has some potential as evidenced by the interest in him by other teams.

I would not be surprised if he is claimed off the Redskins practice squad the way that James was 2 weeks ago.

One would think the Redskins might add him to the active roster.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | October 27, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Wow Alan...you're really putting Collins in the same league as McNabb? UFB...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

when is galloway going to be released, so that TAustin can start playing.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Alan, if he's 2nd string - he's coming off the bench already. I didn't think I needed to specify he's already your starter... won the job...

But thanks for the perspective!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

6th round pick...not the #6 pick....

@PCinOz - Do you still have that Salary Cap Website from Scout.com? Last time I tried to click on it, it failed.....Thanks.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Hate to bring this up...but the Eagles and Packers ahead of us in the ESPN Power Rankings. That's all.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Who's making that list, a bunch of NERDS?

Posted by: monk811 | October 27, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Hate to bring this up...but the Eagles and Packers ahead of us in the ESPN Power Rankings. That's all.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 10:22 AM
-----------------------------
So!

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 27, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Benching McNabb would be ridiculous. He is the best quarterback we have had since Thiesman.

Actually, statisstically, that would be Brad Johnson.

1999-2000 (28 games played):

6,505 yards passing

35 touchdowns

28 ints.

60-64 percent rating


To me, that's the measuring stick for McNabb's extension.

Can he achieve those numbers within a 2-3 window?

If I think he can, he gets paid.

If I think he can't, he gets traded.

That's why I'm on the 'Trade McNabb' bandwagon.

'Cuz I don't think he can.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, I'm definitely NOT putting Collins in the same league as McNabb.

I was answering a question that was posed in general. I'm sure I could have found other examples if I looked a little harder.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

NNNEEERRRRRDDDSSSSS!11!1!!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

DikShuttle & Brownie:
How about our very own Coach Shanahan replacing Jake Plummer with Jay Cutler... Plummer was 7-4 at the time.

Much better example.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

That is a better example. Interesting!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

The Plummer thing is good comparrison. But they had a 1st round QB Rookie who they replaced him with. We don't....Grossman isn't young either. 30/31 maybe.....

McNabb gets a 3year extension...We draft or aquire a QB next year's offseason who can be nurtured for the next 2/3 years to play.....Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Hate to bring this up...but the Eagles and Packers ahead of us in the ESPN Power Rankings. That's all.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

That's okay. The 'Skins are ahead of both of them in the real-life conference rankings.

If the SB champ receives the Lombardi trophy, the PR champ should receive a Wade Phillips trophy. It will be a replica of the trophy Danny Noonan won for winning the caddy tournament.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | October 27, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Moe, once again you're assigning McNabb's worth to a number value and you can't do that. His pocket presence, leadership, and natural playmaking ability are his greatest assets...and also things that can't be quantified in the box score. His numbers will look better once he nails down the intracacies of the offense, but for the first half of the season his play has been enough.

I don't get why this is such a hot-button issue on the blog...dude is a huge upgrade over anything we've had the last decade and we've wasted untold millions on much worse than an established QB with a penchant for the big play. This is a no-brainer IMO...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Who's making that list, a bunch of NERDS?

Posted by: monk811 | October 27, 2010 10:28 AM

PlayAction = NERD for bringing up Power Rankings.

Foxsports has it right...ESPN is a bunch of STUPID DORKS.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The Plummer thing is good comparrison. But they had a 1st round QB Rookie who they replaced him with...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 10:38 AM

Interestingly, the move didn't pay off either. After going 7-4 with Plummer, Cutler took the Broncs 2-3 the rest of the way and they missed the playoffs.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

How about our very own Coach Shanahan replacing Jake Plummer with Jay Cutler... Plummer was 7-4 at the time.

Much better example.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 10:33 AM


Better...but still no cigar.

Plummer's numbers that year?

175 of 317 (55.2% comp.%), 1994 yards, 11 TDs, 13 INTs...plus 7 fumbles. When McNabb turns the ball over 20 times in 11 games, we can talk.

McNabb is the best we can do in 2010 and probably in 2011. Fix the line, fix the WRs, stop playing musical chairs with the QB and actually give one some weapons to be successful. Forcing a QB to win games by himself is the kind of idiocy that kept Philly ringless...let's not make the same mistake.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I didn't notice last week that the Lions were off. I wonder how playing them fresh off their bye, on our second straight road game affects things.

Is Jon Jansen still with the Lions? Not that he's to be feared or anything, but I hope we don't have to hear "the Jon Jansen story" ad nauseum from whichever D level broadcast team Fox assigns to the game.

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 27, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

His numbers will look better once he nails down the intricacies of the offense, but for the first half of the season his play has been enough.

Agreed, his play has been 'enough'.

But doncha find it telling that the extension some fans want for him is so low in coming?

I'd say the franchise is hedging its bets.

The second half of the season is when McNabb will earn his extension or justify his trade.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

ME and Brownwood back on the same page.....

And I thought it was a dumb move to move to Cutler at 7-4, but Plummer was already in Shanny's doghouse......and it now seems evident that once you are in his doghouse, it takes a long time to get out of it, if it ever happens. And he doesn't care if playing the guy in the doghouse gives his team a better chance at winning...he will just not play the player.....STAMPED..

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Agreed re bogus emails, and this topic is ridiculous. RI posters would only email that to Eff with Reid and are probably our "cowboy fans".

"Statistically, they now rank in the middle of the pack in the measures that are most predictive of success, namely efficiency and success rate."

This sentence represents the reason why I usually don't read the new stat threads and why I stopped reading this one.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 27, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I didn't notice last week that the Lions were off. I wonder how playing them fresh off their bye, on our second straight road game affects things.

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 27, 2010 10:48 AM

Teams coming off the bye historically have a modest 53% winning percentage...not sure about our back to back road games along with that.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

brownie, now I'm going to have to bust your chops a little bit here.

You just finished saying we can't judge McNabb by the numbers, then you pull out a bunch of statistics to justify Shanahan benching Plummer?

Dude was 7-4!! I thought it was just about the wins?!?

Posted by: Alan4 | October 27, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

McNabb is the best we can do in 2010 and probably in 2011. Fix the line, fix the WRs, stop playing musical chairs with the QB and actually give one some weapons to be successful. Forcing a QB to win games by himself is the kind of idiocy that kept Philly ringless...let's not make the same mistake.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 10:48 AM |


Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding!

(Hands brownwood26 a Romeo Y Julieta)

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | October 27, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Catching up. Just who are the ad wizards who think Grossman should be starting ahead of McNabb?

I want names.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 27, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

DeAngelo Hall's jersey headed to HOF
ESPN.com news services

ASHBURN, Va. -- After tying an NFL record with four interceptions in a game, DeAngelo Hall is getting his jersey picked off -- and shipped to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Scott Van Pelt

Redskins CB DeAngelo Hall discusses his four interceptions against the Bears, Jay Cutler's comments about him, Washington's ability to win close games, Giants-Cowboys and more.

The Washington Redskins cornerback announced Tuesday on Twitter that the No. 23 he wore in Sunday's 17-14 win over the Chicago Bears is on the way to Canton, Ohio.

A spokesman for the Hall of Fame confirmed that it had asked for the jersey.

Hall is the 19th player to intercept four passes in a game and the first to do it since Deltha O'Neal with the Denver Broncos in 2001.

Hall tweeted that he is "definitely humbled and honored" by the Hall of Fame's request.

It's not an honor that's likely to sit well with Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, who threw all four picks. Hall said he had an idea Cutler would throw the ball his way, because Cutler -- while playing for the Denver Broncos in 2008 -- completed some passes against Hall, who was playing for the Oakland Raiders.

That's why Cutler said after Sunday's game that if he had to do it all over again, he would go after Hall "every time, if we could."

Posted by: abxinc | October 27, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

A final comparison 2009 Season

Donovan McNabb:

yards 3,553 touchdowns 22 interceptions 10

Jason Campbell:

yards 3,618 touchdowns 20 interceptions 15


We got rid of a guy and then added a guy very much like the one we got rid of.

And the one we added is 'elite'.

He'd better play like it.


Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I want names.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 27, 2010 10:57 AM

1) Steve Spurrier

2) Lions Defensive Coordinator

3) Grandma Grossman also thinks it's a peach of an idea.

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 27, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

But doncha find it telling that the extension some fans want for him is so low in coming?

I'd say the franchise is hedging its bets.

The second half of the season is when McNabb will earn his extension or justify his trade.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2010 10:50 AM


No, I don't.

Most teams don't do contract negotiations in-season. Wisely so...why distract a guy learning a new offense with that stuff? McNabb has made the commitment to Washington and I think he's earned the right to stay thus far. I'm not worried about his QB rating right now...we're 4-3 and as long as we're winning, that's a non-issue.

Give him the year to see how far we go and how far he can take us. Then talk contract at the end of the year.

And how much do you think we're getting back in a trade? I mean, if we gave up a 2nd and a 3rd/4th for him and he doesn't do well here, what makes you think we get that back or more? I could see the Vikes being desperate enough to save face in the wake of their epic fail in 2010, but that's about it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep Beep Beep

Posted by: PlayAction | October 27, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

To reply to the earlier post. James Davis was the featured back at Clemson. Spiller was his compliment. Spiller didn't show how great he was until his senior year. I went to Clemson and we used to get mad that Spiller came in the game because James Davis was the best RB we had. Of course Spiller made his way to the Clemson record books at the end of his college career but Davis was the man at Clemson. Hopefully under Shanny he can excell and be a great compliment to Torain. Let's go Skins.

Posted by: SkinsTigers | October 27, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I Told You So.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/running-backs/redskins-sign-jeremiah-johnson.html

Johnson is going to be gone by tomorrow.
James Davis will be replacing him (released earlier by Cleveland).
Posted by: Rypien11 | October 26, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Rypien11 | October 27, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Good that Davis signed, now if we were only playing Duke next game.

Posted by: joeboggs | October 27, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell can't keep the starting job in Oakland where there is little real talent on the roster at QB.

And you are going to compare him to McNabb?

Seriously, McNabb has made plays this year outside of the pocket with his arm that won the Green Bay and Philly games.

Those are games the Redskins in 2009 would have lost because Jason would have taken the sack and lost yardage when the protection broke down.

Also, realize that McNabb is playing on a sprained foot and with a wrist injury on his throwing hand.

It may not be publicized each week in the paper but you can see him on Sundays hobble around after a scramble and hold onto his wrist at times as well.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | October 27, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

"That's why Cutler said after Sunday's game that if he had to do it all over again, he would go after Hall "every time, if we could."

Posted by: abxinc | October 27, 2010 10:58 AM"

And that's why Skins fans are hoping and praying the Skins and Bears meet again, but, deep in the NFC playoffs next time.

Posted by: ThinkingMan | October 27, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

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