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Redskins already are 2-0 in the NFC East

After going winless in the NFC East during the 2009 season, the Redskins are 2-0 in the division this season with victories over Dallas and Philadelphia.

Last year, the Redskins accomplished the dubious feat of failing to win in the six division games against the Cowboys, New York Giants and Eagles for the first time since the 1994 season -, and were outscored, 146-93, in those games. Since the AFL-NFL merger, the Redskins have been shut out in the division only twice.

For Coach Mike Shanahan, winning in the division means everything.

"That's what we emphasize all the time, you know, is the division games," Shanahan said. "As we've talked about, I believe, with the press as well, that if you win your division you're guaranteed a home playoff game.

"What better way to start off a postseason than with, obviously, a game in your backyard. That's your first goal as a football team, to win your division, and that's something we talk about."

...Running back Keiland Williams, released last week to open a spot for Brandon Banks on the 53-man roster, is expected to clear waivers and rejoin the team on the practice squad, a person familiar with the situation said.

By Jason Reid  | October 4, 2010; 4:37 PM ET
 
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Thanks for the breaking news

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I just dropped at least a pound and a half. Jesus.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | October 4, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

6-10 is not going to get you to the playoffs, Shanny. You still need to beat a few non-division opponents and scrub teams (hmmmm...Rams?) to have a shot at the playoffs.

Posted by: oh_boy1 | October 4, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Are we in 1st place in the East?

And how come whenever I write something really funny, I get beeped?

And what's up with oh_boy?

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 4, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse


That's your first goal as a football team, to win your division, and that's something we talk about."

and why not ? it seems in the NFL nowadays the team with the fewest mistakes wins most games.

can you say

W-I-D-E-O-P-E-N

As in, ih8 could still be right, 11-5

HTTR !

something we all can agree on !!!!!

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

That's your first goal as a football team, to win your division, and that's something we talk about."

and why not ? it seems in the NFL nowadays the team with the fewest mistakes wins most games.

can you say

W-I-D-E-O-P-E-N

As in, ih8 could still be right, 11-5

HTTR !

something we all can agree on !!!!!

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

High five from hessone to hesstwo!

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 4, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

No way Jason!

Tell me it's not so!!!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 4, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Did peeps up here already start talking about how the #2 wide receiver in total yards is ... um ... Brandon Lloyd?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse


High five from hessone to hesstwo!

root em' out hess !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

6-10 is not going to get you to the playoffs, Shanny. You still need to beat a few non-division opponents and scrub teams (hmmmm...Rams?) to have a shot at the playoffs.

Posted by: oh_boy1 | October 4, 2010 4:46 P

6-10 will get you in the playoffs if you win the NFC East. Won't get you a home game.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Did peeps up here already start talking about how the #2 wide receiver in total yards is ... um ... Brandon Lloyd?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I picked up Lloyd on my fantasy team, and he's killing it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 4, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Don't blink; this upcoming week may be more important than many of us realize.

The Redskins are first place in the NFC East. The Packers are tied for first place in the NFC North. A win against the Packers could pay huge dividends come January.

Not only is the NFC East wide open, but the entire conference is a jumbled mess. If there's any year for a team to come out of nowhere, this is it.

Dream big, baby.

Posted by: psps23 | October 4, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Despite their apparent collapse, the NFC East team I entered the season the most nervous about playing is the Giants... They really seem to have had our number the last few years. Have we beaten them even once since the Todd Collins game?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 4, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Did peeps up here already start talking about how the #2 wide receiver in total yards is ... um ... Brandon Lloyd?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2010 4:54 PM

Earlier today a few guys wanted to jump from their office windows. They were second story guys, so not much damage except to the holly bush below.

Where you been? Do you have a job or something?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Have we beaten them even once since the Todd Collins game?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 4, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the Todd Collins game...last night, Whoa!

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 4, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse


6-10 will get you in the playoffs if you win the NFC East. Won't get you a home game.

remember beep, I crash numbers, not crunch them, but, could it be that we beat all division teams and lose the rest of our games and still, at 6-10, win the NFC east ? that's gotta be mathematically impossible.

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I really wish I could still be playing so I could wear some pink gloves and shoes to go with the pink diamond studs I wear under my helmet for tit-cancer awareness.

Signed,

Michael Westbrook

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | October 4, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Saw some bear poop this weekend.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

remember beep, I crash numbers, not crunch them, but, could it be that we beat all division teams and lose the rest of our games and still, at 6-10, win the NFC east ? that's gotta be mathematically impossible.

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 5:00 PM

No. If they lose all their non-divisional games, plus two to us, then the best they can do is 4-12. Same as we were last year.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Saw some bear poop this weekend.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 5:10 PM |


Did you look at it and say, Hello Mr. Treadwell?"

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | October 4, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Saw some bear poop this weekend.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 5:10 PM

In your toilet? What did it smell like? Peanut butter?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

No I was more worried about actually running into the bear that left the droppings than saying hi to the poop.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I was so happy the Rams beat the Seahawks. Maybe it will turn out that the Rams are not that bad afterall. Does strenght of schedule factor into the playoff tie-breakers....

;)

Posted by: Wemiss21 | October 4, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I really wish I could still be playing so I could wear some pink gloves and shoes to go with the pink diamond studs I wear under my helmet for tit-cancer awareness.

Signed,

Michael Westbrook

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended

I think our armed forces and all their equipment should be lined with pink flaming Von Dutch pinstripes , just to let the enemy know we care about the Fight Against Breast Cancer...Let's find a cure and, by the way, we can create another agency to be hijacked by corporate crooks , just like the FDA, EPA and OSHA, who lower standards and lie to CREATE cancers for profit..And, Soldiers, Don't Remember And Don't Tell, but depleted uranium is GOOD for you..

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

hayenesworth did play well

the 2nd i said to myself heyer is playing decent, he got a false start penalty reducing how i think he played to not good

im glad to see banks help out the Skins b/c it really did help us out

Skins played inspired football, id like us see put teams away, nonetheless, we won a division road game and there's nothing better than that for regular season NFL Football

o-line as a unit played very well, portis had a very solid game

great game to watch, that's 3 outta 4 we've played well

Posted by: retroskins14 | October 4, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Redskins already are 2-0 in the NFC East


They don't call him the best in the business for nothing ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 4, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I like how this team is a work in progress. Nothing is written in stone, and the coaches are willing to bring in guys,bring up guys from the P-squad, and game plan while admitting that a previous approach was not the best.

Except for Devin. Which I'm willing to just press the I believe button about. He is too stupid or lazy to get on the field, got it.

Not to pump another .50 cal round into the dead horse that is Heyer sucks, but he is the only guy who keeps making multiple mental errors per game to the detriment of the team. Do they have to both give him help with a chip AND make the snap count no higher than one for every play he is on the field??

Samuels needs to get in his face and tell him to smarter the fcuk up.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 4, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinMan3 | October 4, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Like I said, very good run. He's a strong kid. What does that have to do with admitting CP was running the ball really well yesterday?

Posted by: dcwun | October 4, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse


Let's see.

How do I explain the connection between CP finally trying to run hard, CP getting injured every 3rd play, CP eventually getting knocked out of the game, and RYan Torian dishing out punishment with his runs?

Maybe this will be a sufficient explanation:

CLinton Portis is too old and beat up through years of wear-tear to be an effective primary ball carrier. Ryan Torain is not.

There. How's that for an explanation.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Did peeps up here already start talking about how the #2 wide receiver in total yards is ... um ... Brandon Lloyd?

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2010 4:54 PM

Have peeps also mentioned that the guy chucking the ball to him for all those yards is Kyle Orton?

Remember when Mcdaniels chose the trade package for Kyle Orton over Jason Campbell?

There's a coach who knows his QBs...

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Except for Devin. Which I'm willing to just press the I believe button about. He is too stupid or lazy to get on the field, got it.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

Except neither of those so-called reasons is anything but hearsay. We just don't have any facts about DT. Maybe he mugged Shanny's daughter in the offseason. Seems as likely as any other suggestion. But I don't agree with Beep or Flounder when they say dump him for a ham sandwich. He's our biggest and most athletic wide, is one of the best KRs in the league, and is the only wide we have who might be able to catch a ball over a db.

I guess that game where he got 100 yds. and 2 tds against the would-be SB champs was just a mirage. Oh, and btw, I do believe our top three wides COMBINED for 1 catch yesterday. But hey, they are good practice players.

Posted by: NYPDee | October 4, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I was so happy the Rams beat the Seahawks. Maybe it will turn out that the Rams are not that bad afterall. Does strenght of schedule factor into the playoff tie-breakers....

;)

Posted by: Wemiss21 | October 4, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse


No, the Rams are not that bad at all.

Sam Bradford looks like the real deal. We already know that Steven jackson is the real deal. And Spags has that defense playing way above its collective talent level - sign of good coaching. Even in their first 2 losses they were competitive.

They look like the team to beat in the NFC West...any given Sunday, eh?

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Remember when Mcdaniels chose the trade package for Kyle Orton over Jason Campbell?

There's a coach who knows his QBs...

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Interestingly he's also the coach getting a bunch of flack for trading away Peyton Hillis whom he never really used last year despite having a crappy running game. Hillis apparently wasn't one of his "guys" - sounds similiar to the Devin Thomas thing going on with the skins.

Posted by: skinswest | October 4, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

heyer is not the brightest tool in the shed. When Randy Thomas was trying to work with him he just never got the notion that understanding what the guy next to you was doing was a requirement for being a relly good O-lineman. When Thomas went down, Heyer's play dropped off big time and it's never really come back--not that it was ever really up there to begin with even when he was starting, but without a more senior person there to help him every play, he just doesn't seem to perform as well. His footwork is just awful and he is slow. He really wasn't much better on the right.
For those of you suggesting we should trade Dockery: HAVE YOU LOST YOUR COLLECTIVE MINDS???!!! suggesting we go back to 1 deep in critical areas AGAIN. I stongly suggest you go review the game on TIVO/DVR and you will see that Dockery did play some yesterday. Strongly suggest less beer, more paying attention to the actual players on the field, unless you want to join Aikmen and Buck who on at least 5 occasions yesterday in the 2nd half said Vick was on the field (they obviously needed more beer or thicker glasses).

Posted by: drmammal1 | October 4, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

if Clinton is too hurt to play next week, keep your eyes on Chad Simpson.....tough runner...4.4 speed

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 4, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Green Bay is having to deal with two key losses from the defense: Morgan Burnett is a rook safety who's played above expectations and is now out for the year -- particularly problematic since Atari Bigby isn't off the PUP for another two weeks. Brandon Chillar went down the week before; he's touted as the team's best pass-coverage backer and a key part of Dom Capers' packages.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 4, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

"Interestingly he's also the coach getting a bunch of flack for trading away Peyton Hillis whom he never really used last year despite having a crappy running game.Posted by: skinswest"

I thought Hillis might wind up here after getting 6 starts and averaging 5 yards a carry and almost 13 yards a reception for Denver in '08. And he's a good blocker.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 4, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I continue to be disgusted with the way the washington post covers the Redskins, and with sports media in general. I watched the entire game yesterday, as always, and never once was it even mentioned that the game was for the top spot in the NFC East. There was plenty of soap opera talk about Vick and redemption, and McNabb's homecoming etc. etc.. The fact that this was a big game, which determined the early season top spot in division was entirely ignored. I did not even see a Monday article which proclaimed that the Skins are 2-2 with 2 divisional wins and stand on top of the division. Ridiculous. The Post writers are soap opera loving, football ignorant, Skins haters!

Posted by: blobdog | October 4, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I continue to be disgusted with the way the washington post covers the Redskins, and with sports media in general. I watched the entire game yesterday, as always, and never once was it even mentioned that the game was for the top spot in the NFC East. There was plenty of soap opera talk about Vick and redemption, and McNabb's homecoming etc. etc.. The fact that this was a big game, which determined the early season top spot in division was entirely ignored. I did not even see a Monday article which proclaimed that the Skins are 2-2 with 2 divisional wins and stand on top of the division. Ridiculous. The Post writers are soap opera loving, football ignorant, Skins haters!

Posted by: blobdog | October 4, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

It's a long season and there are many issues still plaguing the team. Defense being the biggest, and getting teams off of the field. The offense is capable of defeating teams, but the defense is lacking clearly in many areas. My impression of the 3-4 base defense is that it's a bust with the personnel that the Skins have. It should be a 4-3 with exotics thrown in. There was hardly any pressure using the 3-4 throughout the game. A sign of a good coach is to take the personnel which he has and design his defense around them. To be so inflexible and mandate a 3-4 is inexcusable and in my opinion arrogant. Carter, and Orakpo will not reach even close their performance from last year. The Skins barely won the eagles game, and how might the story change had Avant caught the last ball in the end zone with no time left on the clock. So far the team is 2-0 in the division by luck. They could just as easily be 0-4 heading into this weeks game. Winning barely like this is just masking the deep seated issues for the team. If 3-4 is what the coaches want to head for this should have been a transition year, with this next offseason being the introduction year, and picking up pieces this year and next to build a formidable 3-4 defense. The offensive line is starting to look better, and the more reps they get they show improvement. Week in and week out though the defense has not shown the kind of improvement. The team can be playoff bound if the coaches build schemes to the personnel on hand and be flexible. Maybe the defense will click, maybe it won't only the rest of the season can tell but to stick with something that so clearly the personnel cannot support is just plain stupidity.

Posted by: ttiger211996 | October 5, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

It's a long season and there are many issues still plaguing the team. Defense being the biggest, and getting teams off of the field. The offense is capable of defeating teams, but the defense is lacking clearly in many areas. My impression of the 3-4 base defense is that it's a bust with the personnel that the Skins have. It should be a 4-3 with exotics thrown in. There was hardly any pressure using the 3-4 throughout the game. A sign of a good coach is to take the personnel which he has and design his defense around them. To be so inflexible and mandate a 3-4 is inexcusable and in my opinion arrogant. Carter, and Orakpo will not reach even close their performance from last year. The Skins barely won the eagles game, and how might the story change had Avant caught the last ball in the end zone with no time left on the clock. So far the team is 2-0 in the division by luck. They could just as easily be 0-4 heading into this weeks game. Winning barely like this is just masking the deep seated issues for the team. If 3-4 is what the coaches want to head for this should have been a transition year, with this next offseason being the introduction year, and picking up pieces this year and next to build a formidable 3-4 defense. The offensive line is starting to look better, and the more reps they get they show improvement. Week in and week out though the defense has not shown the kind of improvement. However one of the main weaknesses with the offensive line is Heyer. Week in and week out he has made critical errors at critical times. He is responsible for the week 2 loss to the Texans with a key hold in the 4th, and this week 3 penalties, 1 holding and 2 false starts, put the team in long 3rd down situations at key moments of the game. He is ill suited to play left tackle and should move to right. The team can be playoff bound if the coaches build schemes to the personnel on hand and be flexible. Maybe the defense will click, maybe it won't only the rest of the season can tell but to stick with something that so clearly the personnel cannot support is just plain stupidity.

Posted by: ttiger211996 | October 5, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

yo oh boy1,
Last time i checked the Rams are 2-and-2 same as the skins. Wait a minute, the Rams beat your sorry a$$. so who is the scrub team now. remember 30-16 baby

Posted by: jorgan3 | October 5, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

The team on the whole looks average at best

Their O is a mess that is not really improving.

Their D who just bad

Posted by: Bious | October 5, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

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