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Redskins and the all-Decade team

The NFL announced its all-Decade team prior to tonight's Pro Bowl and three former Redskins made the list: Champ Bailey, Shaun Alexander and Jason Taylor. Okay, so that's probably not a whole lot of consolation for Redskins fans still reeling from a tough season.

You could argue that a couple of Redskins were snubbed. While Bailey made the list, the man for whom he was traded -- Clinton Portis -- did not.

The all-Decade team was selected by members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee, and they picked four running backs: Alexander, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James and LaDainian Tomlinson.

If we go simply by stats compiled in the 2000s, Portis had 9.696 yards and 73 touchdowns, which would at least seem to put him in the conversation.

Alexander had 9,453 yards and 88 touchdowns, James had 10,693 yards and 100 touchdowns, Lewis had 10,607 yards and 58 touchdowns and Tomlinson has 12,490 and 138 touchdowns.

Of course, three of those four running backs played in a Super Bowl.

A couple of other current Redskins could also probably make a compelling case.

Though he's playing in his first Pro Bowl tonight, London Fletcher's name wouldn't have looked out of place amongst the six linebackers on the all-Decade team. He was beaten out by Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis, Joey Porter, Zach Thomas, Brian Urlacher and DeMarcus Ware.

And though Chris Samuels was clearly among the league's top tackles for several seasons, he wasn't selected for the team. Instead, Walter Jones, Jonathan Ogden, Orlando Pace and William Roaf were chosen as tackles.

By Rick Maese  |  January 31, 2010; 9:45 PM ET
 | Tags: Champ Bailey, Clinton Portis  
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Urlacher is highly overrated. I remember when Brady Brady put a nice move on him and made him completely miss. I also recall alot of missed tackles by Urlacher.

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 31, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Peppers and Panthers aren't talking
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 31, 2010 7:56 PM ET
Julius Peppers may not have a preference of where he'll play next season, but it's starting to sound like the Panthers would prefer he play elsewhere.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the Panthers have not spoken to Julius Peppers about a contract extension and do not plan to place the franchise tag on him.

One source told Schefter: "Their owner [Jerry Richardson] has told people they're not planning to keep him."

....From PFT:

You know that shanny and co. are licking their chops right now with the possibility for this guy to come to town. Could make Carter trade bait, or to build a really strong LB corp. Add K. Dansby, and try to find a decent T to wrap up FA, and head into the draft with a lot of options. No salary cap, no stopping snyder's spending. As long as Shanny thinks he could be a fit, expect danny's deep pockets to do some talking. Would make 4-3 and 3-4 alignment equally as effective

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 31, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Considering the Skins are third from the bottom in points scored for the last decade why does JReid have a hard time not seeing Portis or Samuels on the list?]
From 2000 to 2009.. the Skins were Oakland East.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 31, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I really wonder what these guys have against London Fletcher. I can understand Ray Lewis, but after that there is noone that deserves to be there more, and certainly not 6 people. Samuels went to how many pro bowls? So please don't tell me he doesn't belong. He allowed Clinton Tortoise to get about 6000 yards over the last half of the decade. Portis is and always has been a pretender so no he doesn't belong at all.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | January 31, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Reid has some nerve calling Alexander or Taylor Redskins at all!

Posted by: dbrine1261 | January 31, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Samuels and Fletcher are the only people from this team that should be on that list. ST21 coulda made it...too bad. and I agree with ATLskins that Urlacher is overrated. He was much better early on but has faded quickly these last couple of years.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 31, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

A living testament to the great job Danny and his lap dog Vinny did over the last decade bringing excellence to the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: edvar | January 31, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

"And though Chris Samuels was clearly among the league's top tackles for several seasons, he wasn't selected for the team. Instead, Walter Jones, Jonathan Ogden, Orlando Pace and William Roaf were chosen as tackles."

What is NO. Those "other" guys are HOFs.

Chris Samuels Second-Team All-Pro selection (2001)

Jones 4× First-team All-Pro selection (2001, 2004, 2005, 2007)
3× Second-team All-Pro (2002, 2006, 2008)

Ogden 6× First-team All-Pro selection (1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2006)
2× Second-team All-pro (1998, 2004)

Pace 5× First-team All-Pro (1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004)

Roaf 6× First-team All-Pro selection (1994, 1995, 1996, 2003, 2004, 2005)
3× Second-team All-Pro (1997, 2000, 2002)

There is ZERO case that can be made for ANY current Redskin.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 31, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I said the day the trade was made that one day in the future we were going to look at the trade of Champ and a 2nd round choice for Portis was going to look worse and worse as the seasons progressed. We gave up 10+ years of someone who will be nominated for the HOF one day for what?

Posted by: kenboy1 | February 1, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Throwing in a 2nd Round pick on top of the most dominant cornerback of the decade still boggles the mind. 2nd Round picks routinely have long, effective careers in the NFL. For Vinny to suggest that the Skins make that trade should have gotten him immediately sh!tcanned. Let us never forget how bad he sucked.

Posted by: sufferinskinsfan | February 1, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

VEGETABLE VS. MEAT SERIES

A Japanese baseball team climbed from the cellar to the championship by switching to a healthy diet.

Beginning in October 1981, when he took over as a manager of the Seibu Lions, Tatsuro Hirooka prescribed a dietary change for his players. Hirooka limited their meat intake and banned processed foods and refined sugar products all together.

His players conceded to his demands, replacing polished rice with the unpolished variety (brown over white) and incorporated tofu, fish, and soybean milk for protein, at the expense of red meat.

Hirooka believed that processed, chemically enhanced products and certain animal foods increased an athlete's susceptibility to injury. Natural foods, conversely, he theorized protect the body from sprains and dislocations, and keep the mind clear.

The manager of the Nippon Ham Fighters - a team sponsored by a major meat corporation - called Hirooka's Seibu Lions "the goat team" and sneered they are "only eating weeds."

The Lions, however, would get the last laugh, edging out the Ham Fighters for the Pacific League Championship in what sportswriters called the "Vegetable vs. Meat Series." The Seibu Lions then handily defeated the Chunichi Dragons in the Japan Series.

Seibu again won the Pacific and Japan Series in 1983, and remain one of Japan's perennial contenders. During their reign the incidence of muscular ailments (strains, tears, breaks, and other preventable maladies) have been among the lowest in professional sports, the world over.

Food for thought?


Posted by: Rotfrau | February 1, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Wow, the last few decades have kinda sucked for the Skins. I can think of several players being All-Decade in the 70's and 80's, but then what happened?...Snyder! Mostly I feel bad about ST21. Favorite Redskin ever, and I go all the way back to 1971 when I was 11. Now I gotta believe in Mike Shanahan.

Posted by: vik805 | February 1, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Wow, the last few decades have kinda sucked for the Skins. I can think of several players being All-Decade in the 70's and 80's, but then what happened?...Snyder! Mostly I feel bad about ST21. Favorite Redskin ever, and I go all the way back to 1971 when I was 11. Now I gotta believe in Mike Shanahan.

Posted by: vik805 | February 1, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Wow, the last few decades have kinda sucked for the Skins. I can think of several players being All-Decade in the 70's and 80's, but then what happened?...Snyder! Mostly I feel bad about ST21. Favorite Redskin ever, and I go all the way back to 1971 when I was 11. Now I gotta believe in Mike Shanahan.

Posted by: vik805 | February 1, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Samuels, Portis and Fletcher all deserved consideration. I thought Roaf was overrated -- and he retired in 2005. No way Roaf deserved it over Samuels.

I could have placed Portis over Lewis, but Portis doesn't seem like a compelling case.

Haynesworth is an interesting omission. He was one of the dominant tackles for a few years, but its not like the other guys were all that dominant.

But the only one I can make a strong cae for is Fletcher. I could place Fletcher above any of the LBs other than Lewis. How does the guy that leads the decade in tackles not make it?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 1, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan not McCoy!
Each draft slot is assigned a value. #4 is worth Seattle's two 1st round picks. They want a QB. They will trade with us to get #4. We take OT Okung and OG Mile Iupati with the 2 picks. We trade Cooley for a mid-high 1st rd pick and we draft OT Trent Williams for the R tackle spot. In free agency sign both RB Chester Taylor and Darren Sproles as the 3rd down back and we give Colt Brennan his chance. With our 2nd round pick, we take a center, Maurkice Pouncey Florida
6-5 318. 4th round, we take a backup QB in case Colt doesn't fit. Simple!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 1, 2010 4:50 AM | Report abuse

One more thing-don't waste the #4 pick on a hit or miss QB! There is no Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or even dare I say it, Troy Aikman in this draft! Trade the pick and pic up our Oline!
Are you listening Shanny? This is what I would do if I were GM...

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 1, 2010 4:58 AM | Report abuse

PFT posted this little diddy of our boy Malcolm Kelly. If he could play as well as he freestyles, he might actually be playing tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6qX49asVA

Beat is hot too.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 1, 2010 5:20 AM | Report abuse

The All-Decade team = Pro-Bowl teams

It's a popularity contest, just the same. Fletch doesn't give fiery speeches and treat football like life and death like Ray Lewis does, and isn't a flashy player. He's a tackling machine that doesn't get a whole lot of impact plays (INTs, fumbles, sacks, etc.) and that doesn't get anyone excited.

Another by-product of being on a losing team is that you miss out on stuff like this unless you're REALLY great. And nobody on the Redskins over the last 10 years has been REALLY great.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 1, 2010 5:32 AM | Report abuse

The one guy on the Redskins who was REALLY great was murdered before he could show it. The man could do everything.

Posted by: League-Source | February 1, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abuse

Each draft slot is assigned a value. #4 is worth Seattle's two 1st round picks. They want a QB. They will trade with us to get #4. We take OT Okung and OG Mile Iupati with the 2 picks. We trade Cooley for a mid-high 1st rd pick and we draft OT Trent Williams for the R tackle spot. In free agency sign both RB Chester Taylor and Darren Sproles as the 3rd down back and we give Colt Brennan his chance. With our 2nd round pick, we take a center, Maurkice Pouncey Florida
6-5 318. 4th round, we take a backup QB in case Colt doesn't fit. Simple!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | February 1, 2010 4:50 AM | Report abuse

I cringe every time I read some fan's version of what we "should" do. In no universe, except for the Madden game franchise (MAYBE!), will the #4 pick get you two first rounders.... There's this place called "reality" that SO MANY people need to find!

Posted by: therearenonamesleft | February 1, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

Okay, Baily played five season here, but Alexander and Taylor are NOT Redskins. This is a pathetic attempt to connect league-recognition to the Redskins when it really doesn't exists. For the past decade the team has been an embarrassment.

Posted by: tkoho | February 1, 2010 5:46 AM | Report abuse

Fine. Draft Colt McCoy with the #4 pick.

With two Colts on the team, we change our team name to the Colts, and VOILA:

Super Bowl Champions!!

I really should get into law. Or politics.

Posted by: Thinker_ | February 1, 2010 5:48 AM | Report abuse

LS, no doubt he had potential to be great but he was just becoming the kind of player we envisioned before he died. Many here have a tendency to romanticize ST based on what he COULD have been and not what he was. Truth is, he had a great year and a half and that's not going to get your number retired or recognition for an all-decade team.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 1, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse

Throwing in a 2nd Round pick on top of the most dominant cornerback of the decade still boggles the mind. 2nd Round picks routinely have long, effective careers in the NFL. For Vinny to suggest that the Skins make that trade should have gotten him immediately sh!tcanned. Let us never forget how bad he sucked.

Posted by: sufferinskinsfan | February 1, 2010 12:44 AM |

Vinny didn't make that trade Joe Gibbs did, so while there are plenty of things to blame on Vinny this is not one of them.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 1, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

"LS, no doubt he had potential to be great but he was just becoming the kind of player we envisioned before he died. Many here have a tendency to romanticize ST based on what he COULD have been and not what he was. Truth is, he had a great year and a half and that's not going to get your number retired or recognition for an all-decade team.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 1, 2010 5:51 AM"

Basically agree, but just for point of clarification, Cleveland retired Ernie Davis' number and he NEVER played one down in the NFL. That said, he didn't make the all decade team of the 60s...

Posted by: ElBarto63 | February 1, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

No Redskins on all decade team? Is anybody suprised. This is Snyder's legacy. The four guys compared to Samuels all have much better credentials than Samuels. (See Diesel #44). Hopefully Shanahan will start something new and improved. (he can't do worse)

Posted by: sruppert | February 1, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Do not see how this is a surprise. And other than Bailey, the players were not productive while they were in DC. Maybe they should commit to a Vegetarian Diet as suggested above. It couldn't get worse...

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | February 1, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

When you have a team that has been as bad as the Skins over the last decade..it is little
wonder that few players were considered.

One stat which Reid failed to mention when looking at running backs is average yds. per carry. I seriously doubt CP would have been in the top 5 backs...over the span of his career. Another stat that would be interesting is the number of runs of over 30 yards..during their careers.

I agree with the post that said do not waste the #4 pick on a QB..always an iffy proposition...we need top O linemen. A major reason for this team being close to the bottom in points scored over the last 10 years...IS IN FACT BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF THAT O LINE. IN ADDITION, THEY DID NOT HAVE PLAYERS TO STEP IN WHEN A STARTER WAS HURT..QUALITY OF PLAY DROPPED OFF EVEN MORE. NUMBER OF SACKS GIVEN UP OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD? THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING STAT TO USE FOR COMPARISON.
Much of the line issues can be blamed on Vinnie, and Danny..they made so many poor decisions..one could write a book just on that alone.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | February 1, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

One addition..what good would drafting a QB with the number 4 pick..when you have a terrible offensive line. He would end up in a psych ward. The Jets drafted Sanchez but had a top O line to work with him..even then he had a rough first half of the season.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | February 1, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

What is with all of these weak stories..

I wanna hear something about the draft potential trades or something!!

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | February 1, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

The line needs to be addressed in FA and draft, In no way can or should be done by one or the other, we need "Known" help Now, and youth & depth for the long haul. When the line is the beast, everything else is easy, AVG RB, AVG QB,a couple of Good WR, and a Great TE all look world Class behind a great Line. It's not rocket surgery folks!

Posted by: boysheadcoach | February 1, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

No skins on the ALL Decade team!! That’s pretty accurate.

A testament to the incompetence of the last 18 years!!

Something’s got to change!!

Posted by: dc4life | February 1, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Ethan Albright probably had the best shot at making that team.

Posted by: coparker5 | February 1, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps we can learn from the past and not give draft picks away like they're campaign buttons?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 1, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget about Akers. We let him go too.

Posted by: kh_taylor | February 1, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

No Skins in the All Decade team would be more accurate.
A guy stop for tea touches the ball 11 times for 22 yards is hardly worth mentioning.
A guy stars only half a season with your team and 13 years on one other team is hardly a reason to claim him as a Skin.
Although Champ did play 5 years for the Skins most of his career has been done by playing with the Broncos, and besides the Skins gave his rights a long time ago - Hardly a skin I would say.

DREAM ON! The skins have had no player worth mentioning in the last decade - of course, other than for future hall-of-famer Jason Campbell (LOL) ...

Posted by: hock1 | February 1, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Shaun Alexander?

He was here for what 3-4 games and a cup of coffee as the backup's backup at RB?

Not a real Redskin in any obvious sense.

Taylor was here for one season and was hurt for half the games. Another gypsy.

Only Bailey played and made a difference here and was recognized for such by the league as a pro bowl pick.

Posted by: leopard09 | February 1, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"Oh and Reid has some nerve calling Alexander or Taylor Redskins at all!

Posted by: dbrine1261 | January 31, 2010 11:25 PM"

Thank you. Seeing The Mayor claim that those two are Skins and to put that above the RSS fold got my goat a little. Shaddup with Taylor and Alexander. Redskins? Seriously? Shaddup.

Posted by: WorstSeat | February 1, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

The Hall of Fame Selection Committee has never been too fond of Redskins (e.g. "HOGS"). So it is no surprise that they are not fond of Redskins who did not also play on other teams on their all-decade team.

Posted by: ad9inaz | February 1, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The Hall of Fame Selection Committee has never been too fond of Redskins (e.g. "HOGS"). So it is no surprise that they are not fond of Redskins who did not also play on other teams on their all-decade team.

Posted by: ad9inaz | February 1, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid, your assertion in this article is bogus. none of those three players you mentioned were legitimate redskins (maybe champ bailey would have been if he hadn't b*tc*d his way out of town). the other two guys, Jason taylor and Shaun Alexander, well I don't view them as true redskins becuase their careers here weren't that long and impactful.

The NFL HOF Committeee has been fair to 'skins players in previous "All-Decade" designations. During the team's hayday of the 1980s, four redskin players from that era made the team: John Riggins, Joe Jacoby, Art Monk, and Dave Butz (the two coaches named were Bill Walsh and Chuck Noll -- Chuck Noll???? I could see Noll being named to the 70s team, but coach of the 80's team? What about Joe Gibbs?).

So, quit whining about the 2000s all-decade team 'skins fans (and I'm one of them). the team was lousy during that period and so it isn't surprising that no "real" 'skins palyers were named to that squad.

Posted by: twilson66 | February 1, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Actually, 4 ex-Redskins made the team. Akers is also an ex-Redskin.

Posted by: MiddleOfTheRoad4 | February 1, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Actually, 4 ex-Redskins made the team. Akers is also an ex-Redskin.

Posted by: MiddleOfTheRoad4 | February 1, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I said the day the trade was made that one day in the future we were going to look at the trade of Champ and a 2nd round choice for Portis was going to look worse and worse as the seasons progressed. We gave up 10+ years of someone who will be nominated for the HOF one day for what?

Posted by: kenboy1

WHAT HE SAID! I told anyone and everyone it was a HUGE mistake. No one would listen! Got kicked off ExSkins for bad mouthing Portis but a big jerk, Portis a** kisser there went by "21"

Posted by: iubiquity | February 1, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I said the day the trade was made that one day in the future we were going to look at the trade of Champ and a 2nd round choice for Portis was going to look worse and worse as the seasons progressed. We gave up 10+ years of someone who will be nominated for the HOF one day for what?

Posted by: kenboy1

WHAT HE SAID! I told anyone and everyone it was a HUGE mistake. No one would listen! Got kicked off ExSkins for bad mouthing Portis by a big jerk, Portis a** kisser there went by "21"

Posted by: iubiquity | February 1, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Throwing in a 2nd Round pick on top of the most dominant cornerback of the decade still boggles the mind. 2nd Round picks routinely have long, effective careers in the NFL. For Vinny to suggest that the Skins make that trade should have gotten him immediately sh!tcanned. Let us never forget how bad he sucked.

Posted by: sufferinskinsfan | February 1, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

That was not Vinny. That was Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: midniterc | February 1, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

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