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Posted at 11:27 PM ET, 02/ 5/2011

Redskins' Chris Hanburger is elected to Hall of Fame

By David Larimer

Former Redskins linebacker Chris Hanburger was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday night, joining six other members of the Class of 2011. Hanburger played for the Redskins his entire career (1965-78), helped lead the team to its first Super Bowl and is the franchise's all-time leader with nine Pro Bowl appearances.

By David Larimer  | February 5, 2011; 11:27 PM ET
 
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Way to jump all over that one WaPo. You guys are as worthless as frak's penis.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 5, 2011 11:44 PM | Report abuse

First

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 5, 2011 11:45 PM | Report abuse


Way to jump all over that one WaPo. You guys are as worthless as frak's penis.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 5, 2011 11:44 PM |
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it's a good thingit's worthless, we've got enough frak's as it is

Posted by: hessone | February 5, 2011 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Poor Frak :} Erectile Dysfunction is nothing to make fun of scampbell.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 5, 2011 11:50 PM | Report abuse


Poor Frak :} Erectile Dysfunction is nothing to make fun of scampbell.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 5, 2011 11:50 PM |
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poor frak my ass, he's drinking beer and doing bong hits. happy frak

Posted by: hessone | February 5, 2011 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Poor Frak :} Erectile Dysfunction is nothing to make fun of scampbell.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 5, 2011 11:50 PM |

That's not what his girl said.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 5, 2011 11:58 PM | Report abuse

poor frak my ass, he's drinking beer and doing bong hits. happy frak

Posted by: hessone | February 5, 2011 11:53 PM |

Apparently you don't read much of frak's drivel. He's never happy. He's always pissed at

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:01 AM | Report abuse

You're a phukin' retard frak.

Posted by: scampbell1975

I was lookin' for retards phukin' porno for you, scamp, but this is all I could find..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iZlVN3gEso

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:01 AM | Report abuse

poor frak my ass, he's drinking beer and doing bong hits. happy frak

Posted by: hessone | February 5, 2011 11:53 PM |

Apparently you don't read much of frak's drivel. He's never happy. He's always pissed at someone or something for the trainwreck that is his life. Never understanding that his miserable existence is owed to no one other than himself...and maybe the clinic attendent that botched his abortion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:03 AM | Report abuse

I was lookin' for retards phukin' porno for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iZlVN3gEso

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:01 AM |

Not surprised you were looking at retard porno...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:06 AM | Report abuse

What is wrong with the so many people who comment here? Seriously. Is this supposed to be a race to get the story first and if you're not you lose? I can't see anything in this wrong blog post that would inspire such vitriol. I've never seen another blog where so many people who follow it and comment regularly also appear to hate the blogger(s). Wow. It's sad and disturbing. Get a life, people. Where do you get so much negative energy?

Anyway...on the topic at hand...Hanburger was a great player and classy guy. When I was a little kid he helped out as a coach with my little league team. I think his son might have been a teammate. It's nice to see him get in the Hall after all these years. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. It seems so long ago when Redskins weren't multimillionaires, lived in regular houses and stayed with the team for entire careers.

Change is good, I suppose...but not always.

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | February 6, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse

This Buds For You, JesusFreakKaran!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkI-yzjbU0&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=MLGxdCwVVULXeIIEaxG4pnqO-6T0-QRk_G

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:06 AM

As usual...all class. Too bad that clinic attendant failed frak...you are a worthless POS that really needs euthanasia.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:08 AM | Report abuse

What is wrong with the so many people who comment here? Seriously. Is this supposed to be a race to get the story first and if you're not you lose? I can't see anything in this wrong blog post that would inspire such vitriol. I've never seen another blog where so many people who follow it and comment regularly also appear to hate the blogger(s). Wow. It's sad and disturbing. Get a life, people. Where do you get so much negative energy?

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | February 6, 2011 12:07 AM |

The irony here, of course, is the fact that you came on here to b!tch about people b!tching. Go figure. So if we're sad and disturbed what does that make you? If you paid attention at all you would see why the last 2 bloggers were so hated. They have done nothing over the last 2 years to slam and drag throught the mud the team that we love and they "cover." One even went to the extreme of trying to get the Redskins VP suspended and/or fined with us possibly losing draft picks for what turned out to be a load of crap.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:13 AM | Report abuse

*er several years* more like 5+

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Here go, scamp-beauty-mouthed-mother, have some REAL REDSKINS, You Bright Shining Emblem Of AA Civilization-


http://www.uncontactedtribes.org/brazilfootage

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Frak, I'm not interested in seeing your home movies of family and friends.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:19 AM | Report abuse

I'll take that as a compliment...Awright, awright, how about that Chris Hanburger-sumb*tch, anyway..Dude was a beast..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Indeed...a beast.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Chris Hanburger. His election to the Hall of Fame is about as timely as RI reporting it.

Pretty soon, the print edition is gonna be scooping them.

Posted by: edvar | February 6, 2011 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Some good Chris video..Chris always polite in a tough-minded way...

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Some good Chris video..Chris always polite in a tough-minded way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqhxbdQyyZY

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Some good Chris video..Chris always polite in a tough-minded way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqhxbdQyyZY

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:58 AM |

I absolutely love those clotheslines. Too bad they're illegal.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 1:06 AM | Report abuse

They were'nt illegal in his day, especially following WW2, der leaders head must be vremoved..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 1:17 AM | Report abuse

The irony here, of course, is the fact that you came on here to b!tch about people b!tching. Go figure. So if we're sad and disturbed what does that make you? If you paid attention at all you would see why the last 2 bloggers were so hated. They have done nothing over the last 2 years to slam and drag throught the mud the team that we love and they "cover." One even went to the extreme of trying to get the Redskins VP suspended and/or fined with us possibly losing draft picks for what turned out to be a load of crap.

Posted by: scampbell1975
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But why frequent a blog when you hate the blogger? I don't get it.

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | February 6, 2011 1:19 AM | Report abuse

A Redskin just got elected to the Hall of Fame and the only thing everybody here wants to talk about is the blog or blogger? WTF?

Chris Hanburger was one of my childhood idols and his election is ridiculously overdue. Congratulations Chris and Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: croftonpost | February 6, 2011 1:29 AM | Report abuse

But why frequent a blog when you hate the blogger? I don't get it.

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | February 6, 2011 1:19 AM |

Really? You don't get it? Half the time we don't even read the headline, we come here to conversate, bloviate, hate, violate, and generally enjoy the company of all the knowledgeable (and not so knowledgeable) Redskins fans. We all appreciate that the blog exists, most of us just wish they would get a blogger that doesn't have some sort of axe to grind and could possibly be objective. A homer would be just as bad...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 1:40 AM | Report abuse

A Redskin just got elected to the Hall of Fame and the only thing everybody here wants to talk about is the blog or blogger? WTF?

Chris Hanburger was one of my childhood idols and his election is ridiculously overdue. Congratulations Chris and Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: croftonpost | February 6, 2011 1:29 AM

I'm sure if you read a little closer you will see that "the only thing everybody here wants to talk about is " -not- "the blog or blogger?"

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 1:43 AM | Report abuse

Peace Redskins fans and

Hail Chris Hanburger!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 1:45 AM | Report abuse

How about Hanburger and nothing else. Seems kind of appropriate. Just saying......

Posted by: croftonpost | February 6, 2011 1:46 AM | Report abuse

How about Hanburger and nothing else. Seems kind of appropriate. Just saying......

Posted by: croftonpost | February 6, 2011 1:46 AM |

Thanks for the suggestion blogcop. We'll take it under advisement.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 1:48 AM | Report abuse

I've been at work since late afternoon so this is actually news to me.

Congrats Chris Hanburger!

Now who are we pissed at the HOF for not inducting? Pat Fisher? Joe Jacoby? Shar Pourdanesh?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 6, 2011 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Campbell,

Not trying to play cop, I'm merely pointing out that Skins fans actually had something positive happen and it is being given a rather ho-hum reception here. I was expecting to see enthusiasm for a change.

Posted by: croftonpost | February 6, 2011 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Etrod,

It has to be Jacoby. However, I'll throw out another name that we don't talk about often, Len Hauss. He has a pretty solid resume.

Posted by: croftonpost | February 6, 2011 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Got to agree...That is a pretty pathetic performance WaPo.

A Redskins gets picked to HOF, it's posted for first time on RI Blog by unpaid people (myself included) at 7:41 PM...

And you don't put apiece up until 11:27 PM?

That sound you hear are the boys from The Front Page rolling in their graves.

Posted by: TheCork | February 6, 2011 2:12 AM | Report abuse

wapo is the most pathetic sports media outlet around. just a matter of time before they fold the tent.

Posted by: the_shocker1 | February 6, 2011 2:55 AM | Report abuse

Poor Frak :} Erectile Dysfunction is nothing to make fun of scampbell.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 5, 2011 11:50 PM

Sounds like this may be coming from a woman who's handled a few cases of E. D. and who didn't make fun of them.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:53 AM | Report abuse

Redskins' Chris Hanburger is elected to Hall of Fame

Congrats, Mr. Hanburger!

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Chris Hanburger. Larry Brown should be next.

Posted by: alanb1231 | February 6, 2011 8:07 AM | Report abuse

wapo is the most pathetic sports media outlet around.

That's what happens when you let dudes hired from a day labor service hire your 2 least talented workers:

ElDrano

FrancoBegbie

But think on the bright side: this paper was once know for its relationship with Deep Throat.

And both of those guys hope to get down on their knees and work to rekindle that history.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:09 AM | Report abuse

This post is weak! Where are the stats?....comments from other players?

I'm sure if Snyder would have farted, it would have been posted faster.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 8:10 AM | Report abuse

What is wrong with the so many people who comment here? Seriously. Is this supposed to be a race to get the story first and if you're not you lose? I can't see anything in this wrong blog post that would inspire such vitriol. I've never seen another blog where so many people who follow it and comment regularly also appear to hate the blogger(s). Wow. It's sad and disturbing. Get a life, people. Where do you get so much negative energy?

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | February 6, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse


I couldn't have said it better. This blog would be so much better if it was really a redskins blog that had redskins fans for bloggers. I bet you guys are great to watch the game with!

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 6, 2011 8:18 AM | Report abuse

and when i say bloggers I mean the people who comment here

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 6, 2011 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Today's Prediction:

Packers 24

Steelers 21


...and as for the game that reallymatters:

NFLPA 0

Owners 0

Looks like sudden death in that second game.

I suggest the players save their money.

I suggest the owners begin scouring the Earth form replacement players.

And finally, I suggest football fans begin taking sides in a battle between them that have control the NFL money pie and them that want a larger slice of it....

...thing is, neither party realizes it's best to share the pie with everyone: especially the fans.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:27 AM | Report abuse

I've never seen another blog where so many people who follow it and comment regularly also appear to hate the blogger(s). Wow. It's sad and disturbing. Get a life, people. Where do you get so much negative energy?

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | February 6, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse


I couldn't have said it better.

Posted by: scottmando1 | February 6, 2011 8:18 AM |


Ho-hum.

"Negative energy" = Complaining about WaPo incompetence

Positive energy = Complaining about the complaints

Get a mirror, you two.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 8:37 AM | Report abuse

I suggest the owners begin scouring the Earth form replacement players.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:27 AM

Your time is now, moe. Send in that highlight reel of the pick sixes you made for Shippensburg State.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I've never seen another blog where so many people who follow it and comment regularly also appear to hate the blogger(s).

Somewhat unclear, isn't it?

How can you follow something, comment in it, and then hate the other people who do the same thing?

Or: is he saying the people who run this thang hate the people who frequent this forum as much as the bloggers do themselves?

Yikes!: have we become what Egypt has become?

Yes.

We are all crabs at the bottom of the information technology barrel.

Things are fine and genteel in here so long as there are Redskin football games to fuel our social network.

But once you remove the context of those contests, we all scatter like vermin once the lights have been turned on.

I say the fellow has two fine, poorly stated points: RI is a circle jerk of enmity, contempt, and mistrust.

And that's why I post here.

It makes me feel like I got the crabs.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:57 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep

The only video/film of me in action has already been posted by mrsmoe on youtube.

I'm the "Chocolate Rain" guy.

And there's another video of me pretending to be a gay dude named Antoine Dotson.

And besides, I can't run well enough anymore to even contemplate trying out as a replacement player.

However, there is so much football talent in this country right now, that I bet the owners are able to field fairly decent teams.

If it comes to 'replacement games,' will the fans complain?: yes

And will the fans watch games featuring inferior football talent: yes


Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

If it comes to 'replacement games,' will the fans complain?: yes

And will the fans watch games featuring inferior football talent: yes


Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 9:06 AM |

If they watch NCAA post-season bowl games, they'll watch any football.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Great news...Congrats to Hanburger and his family. Now please change the front page story in the sports section on the site to something Hanburger related instead of "Fat Albert".

Posted by: dieselfan44 | February 6, 2011 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Congrats to The Hangman!

Now that he is in the HOF, he should clothesline some of these voters who have zero integrity and should not be allowed to vote.

HTTR!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 6, 2011 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Today's Prediction:

Packers 24

Steelers 21


...and as for the game that reallymatters:

NFLPA 0

Owners 0


Looks like sudden death in that second game.

I suggest the players save their money.

I suggest the owners begin scouring the Earth form replacement players.

And finally, I suggest football fans begin taking sides in a battle between them that have control the NFL money pie and them that want a larger slice of it....

...thing is, neither party realizes it's best to share the pie with everyone: especially the fans.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:27 AM
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Maybe the side here that is least represented is the side of the fans. While players and owners wallow around in piles of cash they have no qualms about sucking a little more cash out of the fans. Let's face it, if the owners get saddled with a contract where they have to pay out a little more, guess who will ultimately pay? So, if they want to do a little more than just give lip service to the fans, why don't they let a panel of fans be the arbitrators?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 6, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

You know what....I like listening to you guys. I come here and read up on all the posts quite a bit. Its entertaining.
You guys are comical and I'm able to keep it all in perspective.
There are other Redskin fan blogs.
If I go somewhere and I don't like what I see, I leave. I don't biatch to the folks that are already there, about what they are doing.
Blogging here is not a requirement. This is not a paid print subscription. If someone doesn't like it...fine, it's your right. Just shut the F up, leave and go kick the dog or something. Just saying......

Posted by: westjr88 | February 6, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

If someone doesn't like it...fine, it's your right. Just shut the F up, leave and go kick the dog or something. Just saying......

Posted by: westjr88 | February 6, 2011 9:45 AM

So, it's our right not to like it? Thanks for that. But it's not our right to complain? Thanks for your opinion, Mr. Mubarak. I don't like it, but I certainly wouldn't be so bold as to complain about it. Just saying.....

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Chris Hanburger.

I'm starting to believe this whole business with concussions is going to bring the NFL down a couple of notches.

Hard to imagine against that backdrop both parties are too short sighted to get a CBA done, but here we are.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the owners though.

And we have the dumbest owner of them all here in Washington. We really need to do something about that.

Posted by: Pepper5 | February 6, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Redskins not in the HOF who should be:

1. Jacoby - not as big a snub as Monk or Hanburger were, but close
2. Brian Mitchell - I think he should be a lock for what he did on the field, but I can see how people wouldn't vote for him because of his position and personality
3. Jerry Smith - Again, I think he should be in, but can see how he's been overlooked. Plus, are the seniors committee and Hall voters ready to support a candidate who was gay?

I loved watching a bunch of other skins through the years, and I'd probably vote for people like Len Hauss, Mark Moseley, Dexter Manley, Pat Fisher, and even Monte Coleman (one of my all-time favorites), for that matter, but i know those would be homer votes and they're not realistic HOF candidates.

Posted by: closer44 | February 6, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Chris Hanburger gets in! Fantastic! I really didn't think they'd vote him in this year ... simply because the Redskins have been on kind of a HOF roll lately. He definitely deserves it, I just don't have a lot of confidence in the HOF voting committee anymore.

One of my best childhood memories is when our little league FB coaches were handing out jerseys, and they gave me #55. I remember trying to 'step up' my game that year, just because of how proud I was to wear his number.

I'm glad to see him get in! He played lights out for so many years, and his signature "hang man" tackles were a thing of beauty.

I still have an old team picture of him he autographed for me back in 70's. I think I'm going to take that, along with his rookie card, and have them framed together. It will make a nice piece for the old Redskins wall.

Congratulations Chris! And Hail to the Redskins!

And Yes, I agree with the others ... that this thread and the comments posted in it should be more of a tribute to Chris Hanburger's proud day of finally making it into the HOF.

Posted by: FootballCardSnatcher | February 6, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Another Skin in the Hall!

Unfortunately I'm too young to remember him, but congrats nonetheless.

closer44- you're right, B-Mitch should be in.

Let's hope at this time next year we're rooting for the Skins and not discussing the draft and FA.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

So, it's our right not to like it? Thanks for that. But it's not our right to complain? Thanks for your opinion, Mr. Mubarak. I don't like it, but I certainly wouldn't be so bold as to complain about it. Just saying.....

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Whatever....

Posted by: westjr88 | February 6, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

beep....

Im not talking about regulars. Complaining is 90% of it. Im talking about a random person posting one time, about what you all do day in and day out. I just hate when someones sole motivation is to go b!tch about something that they aren't a part of to begin with.

Posted by: westjr88 | February 6, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I never saw the guy play, but Hail to The Redskins for adding another Hall Famer!

I youtubed a video of one of his interviews and when asked what his biggest regret? "Not winning a Superbowl" -Hanburger answered. The follow up question: Why couldn't the Redsknis win a championship between 1942 to 1983? Replied Hanburger "I blame the worst owner in sports, Dan Snyder." ...jk RI

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Jacoby might be another candidate for the senior committee in a few years.

The Gibbs era skins are pretty well represented now with 4 plus Gibbs himself and I don't see any more getting in anytime soon.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 6, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure if Snyder would have farted, it would have been posted faster.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 8:10 AM

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And would have received 100 comments within the first 20 minutes.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

You know what....I like listening to you guys. I come here and read up on all the posts quite a bit. Its entertaining.
You guys are comical and I'm able to keep it all in perspective.
There are other Redskin fan blogs.
If I go somewhere and I don't like what I see, I leave. I don't biatch to the folks that are already there, about what they are doing.
Blogging here is not a requirement. This is not a paid print subscription. If someone doesn't like it...fine, it's your right. Just shut the F up, leave and go kick the dog or something. Just saying......

Posted by: westjr88 | February 6, 2011 9:45 AM
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I like how someone can just fall off the pumpkin truck and believe they can dictate the whims of others. I'll post when I want, how I want, and what I want despite the fact it might irritate you. You see, I, like most of my fellow bloggers, don't wake up in the morning with "not offending you" as something to check off on my daily to-do list. Sorry. As you so aptly pointed out, everyone is free to go elsewhere. Nudge. Free to go elsewhere. Hint. Hint. Free to go elsewhere.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 6, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

RSH....I was trying to take up for you regulars and how you like to do things but I figured all I would do is give someone a target.

Posted by: westjr88 | February 6, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

...and as for the game that reallymatters:

NFLPA 0

Owners 0

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:27 AM

+

Yes Yes. and R.I.P Gene Upshaw, we could certainly use you now, because it looks like Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith are colluding with each other to screw over the players. With Roger the evidence is substantial ie. Numerous suspensions, Fines, and Rule Changes have been deteriorating the game into reality tv. I damn the selfish fascist owners for not giving back to the fans and I damn Julius and Ethel Rosenberg--Roger and DeMaurice. Jealous Punks!

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | February 5, 2011 10:51 PM

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Cosign both because I wanna watch football in 2011.

I've thought a little bit though. With all this uncertainty, teams have been non-committal/procrastinating to the last minute to make decisions regarding player personnel. Is this some dubious plan or just the owners taking advantage of not having to be so transparent in letting the fans know what the fucc is going on with their team and players?

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

RSH....I was trying to take up for you regulars and how you like to do things but I figured all I would do is give someone a target.

Posted by: westjr88 | February 6, 2011 11:22 AM

`

A very long time ago in a Galaxy far far away. I had criticized a fan here for constantly being negative. I even made a joke about it using an idea from a tv show.

This fan and a few of his friends decided to take what I said and spun it into something I didn't say. Talk about lost in translation. The fan I criticized still posts here on the regular. The other two? well they come and go for short periods at a time and I couldn't figure out why. So when they did post I noticed that they never really had anything good to say. They just do the same thing that trolls do, but instead of picking on the regulars they liked to bully the unpopular bloggers. Made em feel smart I guess.

What I'd like to say to you westjr88 is that sometimes you have to write a very detailed and descriptive essay to get your point across, because it is guaranteed that some jackass up here with take it out of context, just to make you look like a fool. It's just the life on RI.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Egypt is burning.

Posted by: abxinc | February 6, 2011 11:42 AM | Report abuse

So what's the deal with Moss? He is an unrestricted free agent once the new CBA is enacted? I wonder if he wants out.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 6, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

So what's the deal with Moss? He is an unrestricted free agent once the new CBA is enacted? I wonder if he wants out.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 6, 2011 12:17 PM |

That is a good question. Maybe WaPo could try to find someone that an ask him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Egypt is burning.


The rioting in Eygpt is nothing but a pyramid scheme.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

So what's the deal with Moss? He is an unrestricted free agent once the new CBA is enacted? I wonder if he wants out.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 6, 2011 12:17 PM


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That's what I was saying. There is no such thing as transparency right now in the NFL. No owners want to commit or comment on any personnel moves right now. and quite frankly the lack of a new deal is allowing them to get away with it.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"The rioting in Eygpt is nothing but a pyramid scheme.

Posted by: gimmesummoe"


Welcome to Reality, Moe!!

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"Welcome to Reality, Moe!!
Posted by: frak"

Let's be honest. The rich elite are really just the most cynical and well spoken!!

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest. The rich elite are really just the most cynical and well spoken!!

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 12:39 PM

More cynical than frak? Is that even possible?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Deon Sanders is in the NFL Hall of Fame

moe: Congrats--you were a Cowboy, Redskin, Falcon, and Niner.

Which team will you represent?

Deon: Team?

I don't remember being a player on one.

moe: How do you feel about going to Canton?

Deon: I like the Chinese.

And I'll feel better about going there once Dan Snyder's final check pays my way.

moe: Sum up your career for us?

Deon: I started as a Seminole and wound up an azzhole.

moe: Some say you started that way and were consistent the length of your career.

Deon: Thanks for the compliment.

I even try to be consistent about the things I don't do well.

moe: Okay, Prime Time, final request.

Any words of encouragement for redskin fans who've not noticed the franchise has 2 players--you and the very humble Chris Hanburger--going into the Hall this go 'round?

Deon: Sure, I like being associated with food.

You need it to live, you know.

(Clears his throat to find the right key and pitch.)

Be all you can be.

And if you can love you, and only you a lot.

Then you can only be as half as good as me.

I'm out.

When do I get the check for this interview, I'm in a hurry?

I'm headed to Canton.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT on Hall of Fame...

Other than Anthony Munoz, was there any other Left Tackle more dominant than Joe Jacoby?

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT on the Hall of Fame...

Other than Anthony Munoz, was there any Left Tackle more dominant than Joe Jacoby in the 1980's???

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

More cynical than frak? Is that even possible?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 12:48 PM


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Not Really. It's just the well-spoken part frak needs to work on.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Mubarak stays looking younger than his age with an abortion omelette and a stem cell smoothie for breakfast..

This Queen bathed in virgin's blood as her alternative to Maybelline and Botox..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Who's a cynic??

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Next 5 in line for hall:

Gary Clark
Joe Jacoby
Brian Mitchell
Larry Brown
Wilbur Marshall

Posted by: jgarrisn | February 6, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Not Really. It's just the well-spoken part frak needs to work on.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

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as evidenced by the below post:

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Mubarak stays looking younger than his age with an abortion omelette and a stem cell smoothie for breakfast..

This Queen bathed in virgin's blood as her alternative to Maybelline and Botox..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 12:58 PM

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 1:15 PM | Report abuse

"The rioting in Eygpt is nothing but a pyramid scheme."

And loud groans are heard across the country.

Posted by: NYPDee | February 6, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I just pooped in my pants.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | February 6, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Much as one prefers Rodgers and Green Bay, I don't think there's any question about the Steelers Super Bowl Defense?? That's the thing , too, Ben gets to practice against the best defense in the league , week in and week out, its like the NFC East, we beat up on each other pretty good, but we produce more than our share of Champions..Steelers 30-24..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Chris H. A true Redskin. Used to love the way he played. (Though if he played the same way today he would probably be fined more than James Harrison.)

Posted by: NYPDee | February 6, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

...Except the Eagles...They'll never win a Super Bowl until the nukes take out Washington and New York..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

...Except the Eagles...They'll never win a Super Bowl until the nukes take out Washington and New York..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 1:49 PM

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No, taking out Washington would be a mistake. It's not like Dan Snyder will ever win a Super Bowl either. I hear by state that Ryan Torain will never rush for 1000 yards in a season so long as Dan Snyder is coach.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Si, we like Washington..Torain is a great runner , but has nagging injury issues..One would think Shanahan will obtain Ryan Williams or Oregon State's Jacquizz or the DITR for insurance..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I hear by state that Ryan Torain will never rush for 1000 yards in a season so long as Dan Snyder is coach.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I bet he goes for 1200 next year.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

It's Dan Snyder's fault that Ryan Torain gets injured. It doesn't matter who we bring in as long Dan Snyder is the owner the team will never win! If Dan Snyder bought the Green Bay Packers they'd start sucking too. Aaron Rodgers would throw 30 ints.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

One would think Shanahan will obtain Ryan Williams or Oregon State's Jacquizz or the DITR for insurance..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I like Jacquizz

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Chris Hanburger.

A note to the rest here - couldn't you take your repugnant idiotic dump to another thread and honor Chris Hanburger instead? Why is it so difficult for many here to remain on topic - and what is worse - bringing in comments from other threads and infecting what should be a celebratory thread with more crap.

Wonder if some of these twits even know who Chris Hanburger was.

Posted by: laserwizard | February 6, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCork | February 6, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I tell you what, IH8Dallas, that K.Williams was a solid find for this team, I have a certain amount of faith in the new management's selection prowess..I like Jacquizz, too, but how about Maryland's Scott, from the Senior Bowl??

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Chris Hanburger.

A note to the rest here - couldn't you take your repugnant idiotic dump to another thread and honor Chris Hanburger instead? Why is it so difficult for many here to remain on topic - and what is worse - bringing in comments from other threads and infecting what should be a celebratory thread with more crap.

Wonder if some of these twits even know who Chris Hanburger was.

Posted by: laserwizard | February 6, 2011 2:27 PM

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Usually the people who feel like you don't even bother to post.

I've gone through times like that.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey, lazerwizard, sorry 'bout the spillover war from the last blog, sh*t happens, Hanburger was great...

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

C'mon...I thought this was supposed to be Redskins Insider!!!!

This just in from ESPN's Mark Mosely:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6095541

Thanks for the great memories (and the dropped balls) Santana Moss...

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Bye Santana. Thanx for the link ricky.

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

F*** you, rickyroge, a certain amount of player/team integrity needs to be maintained, players are not junk bonds you can just DUMP at the drop of a hat...Moss stays...

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

see frak...

I was gonna leave you to the rest of my RI brethren you friggin' nipple hair.

Moss was a great Redskin, but we don't owe him anything. He made a lot of money (perhaps overpaid), and was a class act.

Maybe for once this team will built talent rather than sentimental old receivers.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge-
Eat sh*t, machinemeat..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me I remember Santansaying a few weeks back, he wanted to return to the Redskins. I hope he does.
Congrats to Chris Hanburger!! The human clothesline. He took some heads off back in the day.

Posted by: msrent | February 6, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

If Moss goes, you can rest assured Portis and McNabb are gone, as well as whoever else you wish to vomit your hate on, you abused child..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I pulled a PoopyMcPoop and actually sharted in my pants this morning.

And I hope Santana doesn't go anywhere.

1. He is still productive
2. Dallas 2005
3. Never complains
4. Get a bigger receiver and he is DANGEROUS.
5. Put him in the slot and he automatically becomes our biggest playmaker.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I like Moss too. I think the Shanahans feel Anthony Armstrong can be a deep threat.

They also kept Malcolm Kelly. I wonder what they see in him?

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

ESPN is reporting Santa Moss's contract expires 5 days after the Super Bowl. How can they get information before the Post's Redskins beat writer? Isn't that the advantage of having a local guy?

Posted by: kfrew | February 6, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Moss had a VERY productive year, he did well with both McNabb and Grossman, and was just a shade under Pro Bowl honors..Didn't mean to, oh yes I did, bite your head off, rickyroge, that was a provocative comment..Moss has a couple of solid years left in him..I think his open field style is better under McNabb than Grossman, but he can certainly run some tight short routes for Rex if necessary..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I like Moss too. I think the Shanahans feel Anthony Armstrong can be a deep threat.

They also kept Malcolm Kelly. I wonder what they see in him?

Posted by: Vicc | February 6, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe that year of rest has malcolm Kelly ready. Apparently he stayed with the team throughout the season, studying film etc.

He may beast out(which would be a miracle).

I think everyone knows AA is a deep threat.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

So is Moss an UFA?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones being interviewed by Jimmy Johnson.

Disgusting.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones being interviewed by Jimmy Johnson.

Disgusting.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 3:40 PM

You're not watching Puppy Bowl VII? I've got 500 bones on the the underdogs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

...
Now who are we pissed at the HOF for not inducting? Pat Fisher? Joe Jacoby? Shar Pourdanesh?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 6, 2011 2:02 AM
================================

The answer: Leigh Torrence
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 6, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

You're not watching Puppy Bowl VII? I've got 500 bones on the the underdogs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I do like the Puppy Bowl

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I think my Boston Terrier could win the Puppy Bowl

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

The halftime show is riiiiiiidiculous. More pussy than you can shake a stick at.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Steelers by 6.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | February 6, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Redskins not in the HOF who should be:

1. Jacoby - not as big a snub as Monk or Hanburger were, but close
2. Brian Mitchell - I think he should be a lock for what he did on the field, but I can see how people wouldn't vote for him because of his position and personality
3. Jerry Smith - Again, I think he should be in, but can see how he's been overlooked. Plus, are the seniors committee and Hall voters ready to support a candidate who was gay?

I loved watching a bunch of other skins through the years, and I'd probably vote for people like Len Hauss, Mark Moseley, Dexter Manley, Pat Fisher, and even Monte Coleman (one of my all-time favorites), for that matter, but i know those would be homer votes and they're not realistic HOF candidates.

Posted by: closer44 | February 6, 2011 10:22 AM

^^^ Agree with this post, with the Hangman and #81 now in, all 'Skins who were 100% Hall of Famers are accounted for and the injustice (finally)righted.

The others mentioned you could definitely make a case for (particularly Big Jake) but are on the bubble.

Willie Roaf should've been put in this year as should (whisper it) Charles Haley. Even though I do hate his guts.

Posted by: stevebeagrie | February 6, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Guarantee these TOP Ten Super Bowl Events WILL Happen....

Book It.


http://open.salon.com/blog/corkwriter/2011/02/06/top_10_shocking_things_guaranteed_to_happen_at_super_bowl

Posted by: TheCork | February 6, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff, Corkie. When do we get to hear from Skippy?

I'm all for resigning SMoss. 1 or 2 years. As long as the contract is reasonable. Not going to give away the ranch.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 6, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Chris Hanburger's election into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Hanburger was a part of George Allen's over the hill gang that I started to follow in 1972. He was outasight, playing hard as hell. His teamate and running back Larry Brown was the player that made me become a Redskins's fan, let's hope that he can oneday join the ever growing list of Redskinks from our glory days gone by, that now are getting their proper due.

Posted by: 72Redskins | February 6, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

If you put about 10 to 15 pounds on him, Brandon Banks may be Satana Moss 2.0

Sure...Banks is 3 inches shorted and 30 pounds lighter, but's he's fast and defenses will have to account for him.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Banks doesn't have Moss's hands or saavy also...Pretty soon, we're going to have to find his replacement, but he gets signed to a 2-year deal..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

you put about 10 to 15 pounds on him, Brandon Banks may be Satana Moss 2.0

Sure...Banks is 3 inches shorted and 30 pounds lighter, but's he's fast and defenses will have to account for him.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 4:32 PM

I think Santana is more than 3 inches taller and he's anout 50 lbs. heavier.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

5 inches taller and 60lbs heavier...but who's counting?

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Ok...Brandon Banks is Virgil Seay 2.0!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 6, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Jets to use the franchise tag on ILB David Harris. There goes another FA target off the board.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

A note to the rest here - couldn't you take your repugnant idiotic dump to another thread and honor Chris Hanburger instead? Why is it so difficult for many here to remain on topic - and what is worse - bringing in comments from other threads and infecting what should be a celebratory thread with more crap.

Posted by: laserwizard | February 6, 2011 2:27 PM

You're on the wrong blog, wizards fan. And if you think we should only be celebrating Chris Hanburger, why are you posting this hate?

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Things not going well for Mr. Jones in Dallas. Temporary seats have not been installed and people who shelled out $900 for tix are being detained outside the stadium after flying in from all over the country. They're not happy. Ha-ha, Mr. Jones.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Things not going well for Mr. Jones in Dallas. Temporary seats have not been installed and people who shelled out $900 for tix are being detained outside the stadium after flying in from all over the country. They're not happy. Ha-ha, Mr. Jones.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a Snyder move.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a Snyder move.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 5:59 PM

Sounds like a Jerry Jones move. Snyder would be issuing them with papers about a law suit that they have to defend for showing up before their seats were ready.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:01 PM | Report abuse

NFL: 400 fans will be denied seats

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 6, 2011, 6:00 PM EST


Well, we have some answers from the NFL following the latest round of Seat-Gate.

The league says 1,250 fans were affected. The NFL and Cowboys were able to relocate 850 of them to “similar or better seats.” 400 of them will be denied seats.

“These fans will each receive a refund of triple the cost of the face value of their ticket. The face value of these tickets are $900,” the NFL said in a statement. “The safety of fans attending the Super Bowl was paramount in making the decision and the NFL, Dallas Cowboys and City of Arlington officials are in agreement with the resolution.”

(The NFL will apparently not replace hotel and transportation costs for the fans.)

We have no clue how the league found 850 similar or better seats out of thin air when this place was jammed pack to begin with.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:04 PM | Report abuse

So Antwaan Randle El has to have someone else put his eyeblack on for him. Wow.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

We have no clue how the league found 850 similar or better seats out of thin air when this place was jammed pack to begin with.


Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:04 PM

There were still ticketa available this morning.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Why is the dude from Roadhouse introducing the players?

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse

So Antwaan Randle El has to have someone else put his eyeblack on for him. Wow.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

He's gotta be able to see those fair catches.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:14 PM | Report abuse

He's gotta be able to see those fair catches.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:14 PM |

Probably has something to do with his precious little hands.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Why is the dude from Roadhouse introducing the players?

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse
Patrick Swayze?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

He's gotta be able to see those fair catches.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:14 PM |

Probably has something to do with his precious little hands.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:15 PM | Report abuse

He'll throw a pass this evening.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Patrick Swayze?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:16 PM

Sam Elliott. Great voice. He looks Texas. But what inane drivel they wrote for him.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Patrick Swayze?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:16 PM

Sam Elliott. Great voice. He looks Texas. But what inane drivel they wrote for him.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

He was in a Hallmark movie earlier this year that my g/f made me watch.

I was being sarcastic about Swayze.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Great...a gleetard.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

You could hear Sam laughing through his moustache, as always..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Swayze is dead. Sam Elliott who should be in every Western ever made.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:22 PM | Report abuse

She ruined it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

What a blow job on the national anthem. Didn't even get the words right.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Great...a gleetard.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I love Glee

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I love Glee

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:26 PM |

We've heard.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 6:27 PM | Report abuse

beep- make sure you get your shirt and tie back from Deion.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Christina really stunk on the Anthem.

That was horrible.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I love Glee

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:26 PM |

If I loved Glee, and I might, I wouldn't be saying so up here. F Glee.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

What's Glee?

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:35 PM | Report abuse

beep- make sure you get your shirt and tie back from Deion.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:32 PM

Guy paid me $650. I'd rather keep the money. But thanks for the suggestion.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I love Glee

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:26 PM |

If I loved Glee, and I might, I wouldn't be saying so up here. F Glee.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't care.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:37 PM | Report abuse

What's Glee?

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:35 PM

A TV show about a gay boy who likes to sing in the school Glee Club.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I forgot: Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:42 PM | Report abuse

A TV show about a gay boy who likes to sing in the school Glee Club.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:39 PM

That sounds fabulous.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Lame commercials so far.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Great commercials so far.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Lame commercials so far.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Lame commercials so far.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:46 PM

We're talking about the commercials on the Super Bowl. They're great. You're watching a recording of Glee. That's all I can figure out.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

We're talking about the commercials on the Super Bowl. They're great. You're watching a recording of Glee. That's all I can figure out.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The Superbowl is on beepster. I'm not going to argue with you, or your obvious sexual identity crisis.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Howard Green...sounds familiar.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Howard Green...sounds familiar.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

yet another former redskin to get a ring?? everytime I see even average nose tackles play, I realize what a total p.o.s. albert haynesworth is!!! He is washed up and totally useless@!!

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | February 6, 2011 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Cowboy Bud commercial is the best so far..........

Posted by: boysheadcoach | February 6, 2011 7:25 PM | Report abuse

ARE with some clutch catches.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 6, 2011 8:00 PM | Report abuse

ARE with some clutch catches.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 6, 2011 8:00 PM

and some excessive celebrations..He should peek at the score.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, if Raji's play isn't an advertisement to get a dominant nose tackle in this draft, I don't know what is..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, if Raji's play isn't an advertisement to get a dominant nose tackle in this draft, I don't know what is..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 8:07 PM

_________________


I absolutely agree, frak. We need to focus on defense this draft. OLB and NT need to be the first two picks. This is a two year process and we'll address OL late in this years draft and early next year.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 6, 2011 8:17 PM | Report abuse

A dominant FS couldn't hurt either.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 6, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations to CHRIS HANBURGER, one tough and one smart hombre. The one player I most related to as a REDSKIN. Not that I'm either of those things, but fresh out of college, I was plenty full of beans in 1965, and about the same physically. But what he was able to accomplish in his career was nothing short of amazing.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 6, 2011 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, if Raji's play isn't an advertisement to get a dominant nose tackle in this draft, I don't know what is..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 8:07 PM

Again, frak, we don't see eye to eye on a lot but on this we agree.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 9:41 PM | Report abuse

You c ould see that one comin'- too many greens in the box, Big Ben goes over the top...Kaching..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 9:45 PM | Report abuse

That's right, scampbell, I don't care if you're Adolf-Manson-Gein, just so long as you're a Redskin fan, it's all good..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 9:49 PM | Report abuse

That's right, scampbell, I don't care if you're Adolf-Manson-Gein, just so long as you're a Redskin fan, it's all good..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 9:49 PM |

Ummmm, thanks, I think.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to the Packers. Not a well played game IMO, but still a fun game to watch.

Posted by: TWISI | February 6, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

That's right, scampbell, I don't care if you're Adolf-Manson-Gein, just so long as you're a Redskin fan, it's all good..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 9:49 PM |

Ummmm, thanks, I think.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Awkward....Pack wins the SB

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SH*T??? GREEN BAY!!!! "Just get back up", Lombardi said...

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Green Bay Packers and a stiff F U steelers!

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 6, 2011 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Green Bay Packers and a stiff F U steelers!

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 6, 2011 10:10 PM

So now we got a sock puppet up here dogging Karen.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 6, 2011 10:13 PM | Report abuse

That also was an advertisement for an All-Pro QUARTERBACK... Maybe Not in the 2011 draft, but 2012 will bring.... LUCK...

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Dan Snyder even knows who Mark Murphy is?

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe I had to sit through that long, boring game.

I thought this episode of Glee would never come.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:36 PM | Report abuse

...why does this cricket board feel like internet oblivion???...(designated a**hole lagoon)

I think the Fat Al road rage was just another cry for "GET ME THE HELL OUTTA TOWN!!!"...Dude will always be disgruntled distraction, bad for developing team culture..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Or he got framed, wh o knows

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe I had to sit through that long, boring game.

I thought this episode of Glee would never come.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:36 PM

I'm sure your boy friend enjoyed your company during the game and will now return the favor by watching glee.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Or he got framed, wh o knows

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Did he punch a stripper in the face?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe I had to sit through that long, boring game.

I thought this episode of Glee would never come.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:36 PM

I'm sure your boy friend enjoyed your company during the game and will now return the favor by watching glee.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 6, 2011 10:43 PM | Report abuse

He's the best! We can polish off this bottle of Pinot Noir and spoon.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:46 PM | Report abuse

So, you sayin',ih8dallas, he's a violent d*ck???

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:46 PM | Report abuse

So, you sayin',ih8dallas, he's a violent d*ck???

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Just an overpaid, lazy probably bipolar jerk. Violence is just the icing on the cake.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:49 PM | Report abuse

congrats to the pack, who says a team without an owner can't work?

you see that, Snyder? we might just take over!!

Posted by: joek443 | February 6, 2011 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Hey, hey , I was referring to your earlier post about Big Albert...But , hey, hates all the same to me..

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:56 PM | Report abuse

frak- sometimes you're hard to follow and I'm not sure if you are talking to me.

And if you are I'm not sure what you're saying.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 6, 2011 10:59 PM | Report abuse

peace, ih8...

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I think the Fat Al road rage was just another cry for "GET ME THE HELL OUTTA TOWN!!!"

Posted by: frak | February 6, 2011 10:39 PM |

If that's the case fat dude is even stupider then I thought. Tanking your trade value so it makes it less attractive to move you out of town ain't smart.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 6, 2011 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JesusFreakKaran | February 6, 2011 11:36 PM | Report abuse


With 2-3 exceptions, commercials so bad during SB they give Lame a bad name.

With all the $ millions those self-proclaimed advertising "Geniuses" squander on their abominations, people with actual talent could make two-three in dependent movies.

Posted by: TheCork | February 7, 2011 12:42 AM | Report abuse


Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet, but Jordy Nelson is another WR the Redskins failed to select with their second round selections they spent on the Terrific Trio.

Danny and Vinny: The Gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: TheCork | February 7, 2011 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Great night for the Skins--Hanburger elected to the Hall and Mark Murphy holding another Lombardi trophy. HTTR

Posted by: djorl | February 7, 2011 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys, can we stick to Hanburger posts please...for the next 8 days until we get a new post.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 7, 2011 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Re Santana's voided contract, I know other teams would know his contract's about to be voided, but wouldn't it be possible to get @ least a 6th rd. pick for him?

I'd like the move as a sign of recognition by the FO that we're more than a couple of players away from contention if only we'd @ least gotten something to use in the rebuilding process. Seems like some team closer than us would give a sixth to secure his experience and remaining abilities if they had a young/suspect receiving corps v. risking losing out to another team...am I crazy?

Posted by: hogmeister | February 7, 2011 1:49 AM | Report abuse

I think we'll be seeing more of this aaron rogers kid in seasons to come.

Frak and scamp are the same person.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | February 7, 2011 5:29 AM | Report abuse

am I crazy?

Posted by: hogmeister | February 7, 2011 1:49 AM


Yes.

And your brand of insanity is so much harder to take right now as I watch Green Bay clutching their 4th Lombardi trophy...if they did crap like trading key veterans for low round picks, they wouldn't have a SB right now because names like Charles Woodson and Donald Driver wouldn't be there. The Steelers probably wouldn't be their opponent because they rely on 30-somethings like Hines Ward, Aaron Smith, Ryan Clark and Troy Polamalu.

Having veterens isn't the Redskins' problem...it's not having enough young talent around those vets. There's no shame in having a 32 year-old Santana Moss on your roster if he's still healthy and productive...the problem is not having a young WR around to compliment him.

You keep the productive players, get rid of the high salary/low impact players, and build a young, competitive roster. I would say after 2011, the fewer transactions we make, the better...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 5:40 AM | Report abuse

With 2-3 exceptions, commercials so bad during SB they give Lame a bad name.

With all the $ millions those self-proclaimed advertising "Geniuses" squander on their abominations, people with actual talent could make two-three in dependent movies.

Posted by: TheCork | February 7, 2011 12:42 AM

What was bad was the national anthem and that overwrought introduction by Sam Elliott. Best commercials ever. I'm buying one of everything they advertised last night, and I'm selling you short on eTrade.

And, Cork, no one watches independent movies. Everyone watched those commercials. You need to get your head out of your La-La Land.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 7, 2011 6:08 AM | Report abuse

Howard Green, looked terrible for us in pre-season. Now he is a Super Bowl champion with Green Bay and he's looked pretty damn good for the Packers during the play-offs.

There a lot of possible explanations. Perhaps he was banged-up in preseason and had fully recovered in time for the play-offs. Maybe getting cut just caused him to re-evaluate his training and work harder on his conditioning. Then again, it could be that the Packers actually asked him to play to his strengths.

In preseason he looked incredibly slow. Noticeably the slowest lineman I had ever seen. It was particularly noticeable as for somereason we kept on lining him up at DE, rather than NT.

In contrast the Packers kept him in the middle. Didn't expect him to contain runs outside the tackle and just had him push straight up the middle, where his lack of foot speed in open field meant absolutely sod all.

During the preseason, I can remember thinking that our staff had already decided that they weren't going to play Green as an NT, and were just using him as a body. Given the struggles that Maake Kemoeatu went through during the season, that policy looks incredibly short-sighted now.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | February 7, 2011 6:15 AM | Report abuse

During the preseason, I can remember thinking that our staff had already decided that they weren't going to play Green as an NT, and were just using him as a body. Given the struggles that Maake Kemoeatu went through during the season, that policy looks incredibly short-sighted now.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | February 7, 2011 6:15 AM

Howard Green has been cut by seven teams: Baltimore Ravens, New Orleans Saints, Miami Dolphins, Minnesota Vikings, Seattle Seahawks, Washington Redskins and the New York Jets. Were all seven of them "incredibly short-sighted"? Howard Green is a marginal, role player. If we'd cut B.J. Raji, that would have been incredibly short-sighted.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 7, 2011 6:23 AM | Report abuse

Howard Green = Leigh Torrance


Just throw his name into the pile of scrubs deified by RI clowns looking for studs in all the wrong places...next you'll tell me that Marcus Mason could have breathed life into the running game while Torain was out...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Were all seven of them "incredibly short-sighted"? Howard Green is a marginal, role player.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 7, 2011 6:23 AM | Report abuse

No they weren't, but then they weren't as desperately short of talent as we were. You're absolutely right, he is a limited role player, but it is role that we need to be filled and wasn't until Bryant showed a little bit of promise.

A year after playing nose tackle for one of the best 3-4 defences in the league, we gave green almost no time at NT during the pre-season, whilst it was clear that Kemo' lacked strength at the point. Now there may have been many things in practice that led the coaches to think that Green wasn't worth a roster spot, but it would have to be pretty major.

Baring in mind, both are in the latter stages of their careers which one is the more likely to work as a 3-4 NT. One coming off a serious injury and 3-years in Carolina's 4-3 defence or the one coming off a year as 3-4 NT.

For me though the real issue is trying to shoe horn Haynsworth into the NT role, something that he was clearly resisting, had zero experience of playing. Green isn't a great player, but at least he is an NT.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | February 7, 2011 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Mark Murphy: Only person to win a Super Bowl as a player and a club president?

I guess there was no way he would have ever considered returning to his playing team to run it. He's much too smart to jump into this dog's lunch.

Posted by: lgm6986 | February 7, 2011 7:54 AM | Report abuse

OK, now that we've got those pesky "real games" out of the way, it's our time to shine.

Let's get this offseason party started!

Oh, and black eyed peas really suck.

Discuss...

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Howard Green = Leigh Torrance

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Not, really. We didn't have great corner depth but Leigh Torrance was no better than 4th or 5th on our depth chart and was replaced by someone of similar ability.

Howard Green was a 3-4 NT, something we lacked because our annointed starter was coming of serious leg injury. His back-up, the man who was envisioned as stater, was a head case who didn't want to play in a 3-4 let alone as a NT.

Anthony Bryant showed promise in the pre-season and when he got his chance, but weren't exactly deep at NT. Howard Green isn't a stud. He isn't a long term prospect, but he is a competent 2-down 3-4 NT.

Had we kept Green, instead of say Daniels, and focused on persuading Haynesworth to play at end, until we could trade him, we might at least have had a 50% reduction in the number of AH posts.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | February 7, 2011 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Howard Green ate Leigh Torrance

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 6:29 AM | Report abuse

There, fixed it for ya!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and black eyed peas really suck.

Discuss...

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Not sure about the men, but I sure hope Fergie does, man she's hot!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Christina Aguliera's version of the Natl Anthem was just a little better than Carl Lewis's version.

Maybe just a little more time on learning the words and less on applying the 4LBs of makeup she wears.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 7, 2011 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and black eyed peas really suck.

Discuss...

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 7:57 AM


The obviously suck live, at least...I was a big fan of theirs when they were unique and eclectic, but now that they're big they've basically sold out to sell records (or at least to get certain songs played in the club). I've definitely falled out of love with this group...

As for Mark Murphy, let's see...stay in GB where there's no owner, a devout fanbase, and total organizational stability or leave for DC where there's a meddlesome owner, ridiculous expecations, and a fanbase one more embarrassment away from a pitchfork and torches-style revolt. I'm thinkin' Murphy's good where he is...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Aaron Rodgers 1
Brett Farve 1

I'd take AR over BF in his prime everyday and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 7, 2011 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and black eyed peas really suck.

Discuss...

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Not sure about the men, but I sure hope Fergie does, man she's hot!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 8:22 AM

Can't argue that!

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and black eyed peas really suck.

Discuss...

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Not sure about the men, but I sure hope Fergie does, man she's hot!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 8:22 AM

Pretty safe bet she didn't get that round mouth from eatin' square meals.

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Christina Aguliera's version of the Natl Anthem was just a little better than Carl Lewis's version.

Maybe just a little more time on learning the words and less on applying the 4LBs of makeup she wears.


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 7, 2011 8:24 AM | Report abuse

These artists come into a sporting event and take the EASIEST and BEST song ever for granted and figure "hey, it's just the National Anthem, I don't have to practice it", and then they mess it up and embarrass themselves, she's a frickin moron!

And by the way, I don't think those pounds are from the makeup, I think it's from the Oreos and Ho-Hos she's been bulldozing in her mouth.

GO ON A DIET AND PRACTICE YOUR CRAFT!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Had we kept Green, instead of say Daniels, and focused on persuading Haynesworth to play at end, until we could trade him, we might at least have had a 50% reduction in the number of AH posts.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | February 7, 2011 8:02 AM


Yeah, and IF my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.

It's revisionist history, dude. A journeyman NT is a journeyman NT, regardless of what the depth chart looks like ahead of him. If he stayed here, he'd probably still be 3rd on the depth chart and then you'd be complaining that he's wasting a roster spot for some other 53rd man who does well elsewhere. That's why Howard Green = Leigh Torrance...they were both at the end of the bench here and nobody gives 'em a thought until you see them holding up a trophy they did little to earn...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse

very entertaining game..glad the pack came away with the win....shame on Christina for that performance, beyond pathetic..Aaron Rogers accuracy is uncanny, I mean, he puts the ball on the money on the majority of his throws....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Christina Aguliera's version of the Natl Anthem was just a little better than Carl Lewis's version.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 7, 2011 8:24 AM


Yeah, co-sign with you and Monk...I've never been a fan of hers. She's fun to look at and probably sucks a mean dick, but vocally she's one of those idiot singers that places WAAAAY too much emphasis on runs and pays little to no attention to actually singing the damn song. It's a shame because she's got a great voice, but like AH, she appears to be coasting on talent alone and not putting enough emphasis in being fundamentally sound...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Bring back COLT BRENNAN. Free MARKO MITCHELL.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 7, 2011 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Aaron Rogers accuracy is uncanny, I mean, he puts the ball on the money on the majority of his throws....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 8:39 AM


I know...to put up a 111.5 QB rating against that Pittsburgh defense is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe I'm being a prisoner of the moment here, but it's hard not to put this guy at least in the top 3 QBs in the league right now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Fkuck yeah, he was! WTG, Han(m)burger!
_________________________________________

From previous post:

"I wanted to make sure that everybody knew that this was how I feel. I wanted him to hear me say it. There are so many things made about our relationship over the years. And to have that opportunity, for me, that was a surreal moment."

LaVar.... I don't think that word means what you think it means....

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 7, 2011 8:59 AM | Report abuse

brown, moreso that that, was hitting guys with passes, in stride, right on the hands..he should have had over 400 yards if Nelson/Jones could hold onto the ball...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Christina Aguliera's version of the Natl Anthem was just a little better than Carl Lewis's version.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 7, 2011 8:24 AM


But she's no Roseanne... (wince).

Truth be told - I can't stand any of those Whitney-infused performances anymore... and I LOVE the Whitney version. It's just that if you take that approach without understanding the reason for those inflections and runs, it falls VERY flat.

WH is not some stock singer. She redefined american music. Generations now think her interpretation of The Anthem is the actual melody. It's phenomenal.

CA is a t u rd in our musical super punch bowl... BEP not far behind, IMO.

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 7, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Brownie - very insightful analysis!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 7, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and black eyed peas really suck.

Discuss...

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't know who they hired to run sound for that show but I do know that it was the lowest bidder.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and black eyed peas really suck.

Discuss...

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't know who they hired to run sound for that show but I do know that it was the lowest bidder.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2011 9:15 AM

Someone from the Jerrah good 'ol boy network, no doubt.

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

These artists come into a sporting event and take the EASIEST and BEST song ever for granted

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse

The national anthem is a notoriously difficult song to sing well. It goes up and down the scales frequently and challenges the range of any vocalist.

Not that it's an excuse for forgetting the lyrics...

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Exactly, Greg...about 400 yards and at least 2 more TDs.

Pittsburgh was lucky to even be in that game...3 turnovers for 3 TDs should get you blown out every time...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Aaron Rogers accuracy is uncanny, I mean, he puts the ball on the money on the majority of his throws....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 8:39 AM


I know...to put up a 111.5 QB rating against that Pittsburgh defense is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe I'm being a prisoner of the moment here, but it's hard not to put this guy at least in the top 3 QBs in the league right now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse


Not just in the SB, but throughout the playoffs Rodgers has been $$ - only exception was against Chicago.

But he's posted QB ratings in the other games of 122, 136, 111 - all on the "road" mind you.

They got to a point in the game where they didn't even feign to run the ball. The Steelers just knew Rodgers would drop back and throw, and they couldn't really stop it. When GB stalled it was usually b/c someone dropped a pass.

Definitely top 3 - Brady, Manning, Rodgers. He's for sure taken a spot ahead of Roethlisberger, IMO.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Are people seriously complaining about the officiating - particularly on that last pass?

Really?!?!?!?!?!


No doubt, they must be all ass tweaked Steelers fans.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 7, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

The other great part about this SB - aside from watching the Steelers get beat from start to finish - is the fiasco of the Jerry-world production.

*Snow/ice falling from the roof and putting people in the hospital

*Outdoor seating in 40 degree weather.

*Hunderds of people who had tix could not get seated in the stadium, b/c they didn't get the temporary seating up to code creating an outburst of anger/protest and ruining Jerruh's bid at the biggest capcity record.

*Muffed national anthem w/ ex-President in the building.

*Absolute crash-n-burn halftime show. THe only thing that was entertaining was the comic value of watching these people painfully struggle through the performance.

Ha Ha!

Thanks for the memories Jerry!

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

the bad broadcast sound was a simple mistake: Too much of the live mix being pumped to the engineer... he overcompensates and all we get is the live vocals - which, in any 'top' act are just supplemental to the canned trax.

Usher doing an entire show of "uh" and "yeah" cracked me up, too. Nice jump, tho. And folks were mad at Milli Vanilli...lol.

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 7, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

With 2-3 exceptions, commercials so bad during SB they give Lame a bad name.

With all the $ millions those self-proclaimed advertising "Geniuses" squander on their abominations, people with actual talent could make two-three in dependent movies.

Posted by: TheCork | February 7, 2011 12:42 AM | Report abuse

I suddenly feel very old. I've always looked forward to the commercials. This year, I scratched my head and wondered what half of them were even about, and why they would waste so much money on them. I'm assuming they are targeted at a much younger crowd. They can't all be wasting their money.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 7, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Definitely top 3 - Brady, Manning, Rodgers. He's for sure taken a spot ahead of Roethlisberger, IMO.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:28 AM | Report abuse


COrrection - Drew Brees has to be in there.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I bet pee-wee herman coulda busted out a mean national anthem.

Oh well, maybe next year! ;)

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 7, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6095541

So much for restructuring Santana's contract.

Looks like it voids automatically in 5 days.


Oh, and thanks to ESPN for the Redskins Insider information...

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Definitely top 3 - Brady, Manning, Rodgers. He's for sure taken a spot ahead of Roethlisberger, IMO.

Posted by: p1funk


Better than Brees?

My top 5:

Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Manning
Roethlisberger/Rivers

Posted by: RedDMV | February 7, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

That's why Howard Green = Leigh Torrance...they were both at the end of the bench here and nobody gives 'em a thought until you see them holding up a trophy they did little to earn...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse


As I remember it, Leigh Torrance was a topic of conversation because Jason La Canfora kept on making an incredible fuss about him whilst most of the people on this forum thought of him as roster filler and mediocre contributor to special teams.

Sure he got mentioned when the Saints won, but I don't remember many thinking that his play that year had proved we had made a mistake. What I remember as lot of people talking about JlaC and his mini-obsession with a player who didn't really do much on the field for either team.


You are right though, if Howard Green has stayed here and not got on the field then no one would have mentioned him. However, he did get on to the field this year. The fact that he played well for another team in two play-off games just meant that more people got to see it than usual.

I am not saying we should rush out to sign Green. He is another year older, and Kemo has had another year to recover. Bryant showed some promise and ideally we'll find a top-class NT in the draft.

Still, I think we made a mistake in releasing Green in pre-season. At the time I didn't, but then at the time I was wondering why they were playing him out of position. His play for the Packers just resurrected the question.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | February 7, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

With 2-3 exceptions, commercials so bad during SB they give Lame a bad name.

With all the $ millions those self-proclaimed advertising "Geniuses" squander on their abominations, people with actual talent could make two-three in dependent movies.

Posted by: TheCork | February 7, 2011 12:42 AM | Report abuse


I thought the best commercial was the Audi one early on with the 2 rich guys escaping the rich people's prison.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Nevermind...

Posted by: RedDMV | February 7, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Definitely top 3 - Brady, Manning, Rodgers. He's for sure taken a spot ahead of Roethlisberger, IMO.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:28 AM


Prior to the season, my "Big 3" was Manning, Brees, and Brady...call me crazy, but if Rodgers moves onto the list, the guy I'm taking off is Manning.

He seems to be like Marino 2.0--a guy that puts up amazing stats in the regular season but just can't get over the hump in the playoffs. If you go back and look at Manning's one and only SB run, he had a poor individual performance and was basically carried by the defense and running game. Manning is a lot of things, but clutch just isn't one of 'em.

Brady has shown he's clutch, Brees has shown it as well. Manning simply hasn't.

So while his body of work certainly pales in comparison to Manning's, I'd take Rodgers over Manning for my team in a heartbeat. At least I know I'll get the fantasy stats AND the clutch postseason performance.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Still, I think we made a mistake in releasing Green in pre-season. At the time I didn't, but then at the time I was wondering why they were playing him out of position. His play for the Packers just resurrected the question.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | February 7, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse


It's easy to think it might be a "mistake" after he made some plays on a SB winning team.

The question is: Were you bringing this up months ago after we released him?

Doubt it.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

bridgestone tires, snickers, dorito's, were some good commercials....looks like some good movies coming out this summer, Thor, Transformers, Capt. America.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 9:44 AM | Report abuse

My top 5:

Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Manning
Roethlisberger/Rivers

Posted by: RedDMV | February 7, 2011 9:39 AM


Co-sign.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I thought the commercials generally sucked this year. None of them struck me as particularly memorable.

The game was excellent. I was hoping the Pack to win because I didn't want to keep hearing forever how elite Big Ben is for winning 3 SBs... the Steelers DEFENSE is clearly elite, and their running game actually looked damn good yesterday, too. Rodgers did a magnificent job against the Steelers defense, and I was amazed at how quickly the Packers abandoned their own running game.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 7, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

ooh - glad you brought up the commercials!

Ok, favs?

Mine were the two TGIF I can remember:

"Goin' to the Doctor"
&
"ooh - Roommate!"

Both excellent examples of comedic timing & exactly what Stupor Bowel ads should be.

Too bad they were so late in the broadcast...

Others?

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 7, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The national anthem is a notoriously difficult song to sing well. It goes up and down the scales frequently and challenges the range of any vocalist.

Not that it's an excuse for forgetting the lyrics...

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Difficult song you say??? Maybe for Rosanne, but it is not that difficult. Everyone has different ranges and they can easily pick a key to sing it in so that their voice doesn't crack. The problem Christina had was she put too much soul into it, too many runs. I guarantee you the people that mess up that song, word wise, are the ones that didn't practice it because they took it for granted. I mean come on, Elementary School children know this song. You saying it's hard because of the notes is a cop-out, she shouldn't have messed up the words and should have made her arrangement easier without going all over the place with her notes.

SAVE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

red, the replayed showed on that last play for pitt, there was no interference....they shouldn't be complaining...pitt made a game of it, nothing to be ashamed of...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Raji's play isn't an advertisement to get a dominant nose tackle in this draft, I don't know what is..

Welcome aboard.

Both the steelers/packers' D are advistisements for drafting dominating defensive linemen who free linebackers to make plays.

Should we take BPA or a need player at #10?

I say take the best player availiable at what you define as a position of need.

There are a lot of decent defenders in this draft and our defense couldn't a child from eating too many Girl Scout cookies.

Draft whatever interior defensive lineman that grades out high @ 10.


Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Prior to the season, my "Big 3" was Manning, Brees, and Brady...call me crazy, but if Rodgers moves onto the list, the guy I'm taking off is Manning.

He seems to be like Marino 2.0--a guy that puts up amazing stats in the regular season but just can't get over the hump in the playoffs. If you go back and look at Manning's one and only SB run, he had a poor individual performance and was basically carried by the defense and running game. Manning is a lot of things, but clutch just isn't one of 'em.

Brady has shown he's clutch, Brees has shown it as well. Manning simply hasn't.

So while his body of work certainly pales in comparison to Manning's, I'd take Rodgers over Manning for my team in a heartbeat. At least I know I'll get the fantasy stats AND the clutch postseason performance.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

It's hard to overlook Peyton's overall body of work as a QB. He's going to be an HOF QB. Can't say the same for Rodgers right now.

The other factor, IMO, is that Peyton has really never had great defenses to help carry him. Those Indy defenses have been notoriously fickle. INdy's success really has been Peyton Manning making it happen. His flaws get emphasized b/c if he plays poorly, they typically lose. But that's because there's nothing else to consistently rely on with that team.

In that SB, Manning didn't play lights out, but they were playing in rain, and he went for about 250 w/ a TD.

Rodgers is an elite top-eschelon QB, but the GB defense is one of the top defenses in the league. Pack scored 21 points off of 3 turnovers yesterday. It's hard to say that Manning gets that same kind of support in the consistent way that Rodgers has had over the past 2 years.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:56 AM | Report abuse

So while his body of work certainly pales in comparison to Manning's, I'd take Rodgers over Manning for my team in a heartbeat. At least I know I'll get the fantasy stats AND the clutch postseason performance.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse


100% agree.

I don't want to say Manning isn't clutch but he needs an offensive coordinator to call his plays so that he can just play football.

He gets eaten alive by good defenses in the playoffs every year because he's trying to diagnose everything at the line of scrimmage.

Just like the head coach/gm combination is a bad idea, so is the QB/Coordinator combo.


Rodgers is brilliant. Of all his incompletions last night, only 3 or 4 were on him. His receivers were dropping perfect passes.

Then consider that he's now 4-1 in the playoffs and in his only loss he put up 45 points.

Rodgers/Brady/Brees are defintitely 1, 1a and 1b in the NFL.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Prior to the season, my "Big 3" was Manning, Brees, and Brady...call me crazy, but if Rodgers moves onto the list, the guy I'm taking off is Manning.

He seems to be like Marino 2.0--a guy that puts up amazing stats in the regular season but just can't get over the hump in the playoffs. If you go back and look at Manning's one and only SB run, he had a poor individual performance and was basically carried by the defense and running game. Manning is a lot of things, but clutch just isn't one of 'em.

Brady has shown he's clutch, Brees has shown it as well. Manning simply hasn't.

So while his body of work certainly pales in comparison to Manning's, I'd take Rodgers over Manning for my team in a heartbeat. At least I know I'll get the fantasy stats AND the clutch postseason performance.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Manning was dealing with a lot of backup receivers. I don't have the names in front of me, but Indy had a lot of injuries. DClark was out for sure. I'd still keep Manning up at the top of my list, along with Brady. Brees and Rodgers, and Roethlisberger.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 7, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The national anthem is a notoriously difficult song to sing well. It goes up and down the scales frequently and challenges the range of any vocalist.

Not that it's an excuse for forgetting the lyrics...

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Difficult song you say??? Maybe for Rosanne, but it is not that difficult. Everyone has different ranges and they can easily pick a key to sing it in so that their voice doesn't crack. The problem Christina had was she put too much soul into it, too many runs. I guarantee you the people that mess up that song, word wise, are the ones that didn't practice it because they took it for granted. I mean come on, Elementary School children know this song. You saying it's hard because of the notes is a cop-out, she shouldn't have messed up the words and should have made her arrangement easier without going all over the place with her notes.

SAVE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse


Look jack-wagon, I said that there's no excuse for forgetting the words. You even posted that part of my comments.

Musicians and singers that I know have said that the Nat'l Anthem is difficult to sing. Being on or off "key" isn't the issue. THe issue is "range". Do you know the difference? Clearly not, but whatever.

Yes; it's usually always a mistake to overdo the arrangement. THere's no need to becaue the song is already written in a way that challenges the singer's range, so when they try to add on fluttery ad-libs it's easy to get lost and flustered.

Christian Aguilerra - who has made a career out of "over-performing" songs - was a poor choice.

Notch another up for Jerry.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Today's Prediction:

Packers 24

Steelers 21

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 6, 2011 8:27 AM


So we were off by a couple of points.

We won serve crow today to the folks who howled that the Steelers old school bruising style play would beat the pass happy packers.

If anything, the packers' victory highlights some interesting points:

--spread NFL offense featuring quick passing can beat blitz crazy defense

--accuracy into the center of a defense will force teams not to blitz a free safety

--the featured running back who gets 20-25 carries to close down the game has become like the dinosaur and rotary phones

--defense can't win a championship if the quarterback's release renders the blitz ineffective

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 10:04 AM | Report abuse

monk, if you can't recognize the national anthem as a difficult song for even the most seasoned singer, then you just don't know music, my friend...

pfunk, I'm not saying Manning isn't elite...just that he's not clutch. Regardless of whether he's got a team around him, his individual performance is what I'm judging and in the playoffs he tends to fall flat. I'll grant you that he's seen the likes of the Pats, Steelers, and Ravens in the playoffs more often than not but if he's as good as advertised, he should at least be able to play adequately against those teams. At times, he hasn't.

Like I said...Rodgers' total body of work falls short of Manning's, but if he can stay healthy Rodgers could be even better than Manning. I guess we'll find out soon enough...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 10:08 AM | Report abuse

--the featured running back who gets 20-25 carries to close down the game has become like the dinosaur and rotary phones

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 10:04 AM

I actually thought the Packers left the Steelers too much time at the end by passing instead of running the ball. On one of the complettions with about 3 minutes left, the receiver actually stepped out of bounds and stopped the clock.

A strong Pakcers running game at the end would not have allowed the Steelers to get the ball back before the 2 minute warning.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 7, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

and Roethlisberger.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 7, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I don't know.

Roethlisberger, IMO, has proven to be a notoriously inconsistent QB. He's great at ad-libbing and making plays in some clutch situations, but the reason he has the opportunity for these comebacks is b/c his perennially top-ranked defense keeps them in the games.

Roethlisberger makes plays, but I think it's hard to argue that he really carries the team overall - even offensively at times.

Brady, Manning, Brees - there's no question these guys carry their teams.

And Rodgers, I think, can enter that discussion.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Both the steelers/packers' D are advistisements for drafting dominating defensive linemen who free linebackers to make plays.

Should we take BPA or a need player at #10?

I say take the best player availiable at what you define as a position of need.

There are a lot of decent defenders in this draft and our defense couldn't a child from eating too many Girl Scout cookies.

Draft whatever interior defensive lineman that grades out high @ 10.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Not totally disagreeing with you, Moe. But consider this. Let's assume that 5-6 DL have been drafted before we get a pick. Do we take the 6th or 7th best DL, if there is a superior athlete at some other position of need, such as WR or LB, or even FS or CB? We have to look also at who will be available with our #2 pick, at about #42. If we think that a DL available at that time would be roughly equivalent to the #6 or #7 DL in the whole draft, shouldn't we get the superior athlete at #10? I'm just not willing to say, get the best DL at #10, regardless of who it is. That's why I still say, BPA.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 7, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Manning was dealing with a lot of backup receivers. I don't have the names in front of me, but Indy had a lot of injuries. DClark was out for sure. I'd still keep Manning up at the top of my list, along with Brady. Brees and Rodgers, and Roethlisberger.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 7, 2011 10:01 AM


This year he did...but he had his full complement of weapons in '06 when he threw more picks than TDs and got carried to a title by his defense. I'm talking more about the total playoff picture, not just this season.

Manning is still a top 5 QB to me...I never said otherwise. All I'm saying is that it might be time to slide Rodgers into the top 3...and ahead of Manning in the pecking order.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 7, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

frediefritz

...at #10? I'm just not willing to say, get the best DL at #10, regardless of who it is.

I understand.

I think what a lot of us forget that goes into assess potential NFL talent is the idea of how a guy fits into your scheme.

The BPA availiable might be a guy who doesn't.

The BPA at what you define as a position of need will.

The plan of action is essentially how Kevin Greene said the Packers choose to draft C Matthews when other college linebackers were projected ahead of him in '09.

The also took BJ Raji that year as they knew they were going to fit him into a scheme change tot he 3-4, not some draftnik's dream ofhow you use picks.

The BPA argument works for draftniks the day of the draft.

But if you are a coach, you're thinking, 'Where will this guy be for us once we get him into what we do?'

Selecting the best availiable guy who helps you out scheme-wise is better, IMO.

And for us, that's a NT or DT.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:11 AM


Co-sign. The Steelers went 3-1 without Roethlisberger to start the year. They killed the Skins with Byron Leftwich a couple of years ago.

I seriously doubt the Saints and Colts could go 3-1 with guys name Dennis Dixon and Batch at the helm.

I'm not as sure about what Brady-less Pats might do, because they are so loaded with talent like the Steelers. Brady raises them from very good to elite, and it's a surprise to me whenever they're not representing the AFC in the SB.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 7, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Both the steelers/packers' D are advistisements for drafting dominating defensive linemen who free linebackers to make plays.

Should we take BPA or a need player at #10?

I say take the best player availiable at what you define as a position of need.

There are a lot of decent defenders in this draft and our defense couldn't a child from eating too many Girl Scout cookies.

Draft whatever interior defensive lineman that grades out high @ 10.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Or you could say that it's an adverstisement for drafting linebackers who can make plays.

We need both interior Dlinemen and play-making LBs.

BPA @ 10? Need @ 10?

We need about a dozen guys at starting positions for this team, so I don't think "need" and "BPA" are mutually exclusive for us.

But my new preferred strategy would be to trade down at 10 (if we can) for a couple more picks, and get a NT, OLB and CB in the first-second rounds.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Musicians and singers that I know have said that the Nat'l Anthem is difficult to sing. Being on or off "key" isn't the issue. THe issue is "range". Do you know the difference? Clearly not, but whatever.

Yes; it's usually always a mistake to overdo the arrangement. THere's no need to becaue the song is already written in a way that challenges the singer's range, so when they try to add on fluttery ad-libs it's easy to get lost and flustered.

Christian Aguilerra - who has made a career out of "over-performing" songs - was a poor choice.

Notch another up for Jerry.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Ok, you're not paying attention to me. I never said she was off key, the KEY is the SCALE, or a set of notes, in which the song is written. And range is the set of notes that goes from high to low. If she picked a lower key, or scale, and made her arrangement easier, then she would have nailed it! It might be challenging for a middle schooler or high schooler to do, but not a 5 TIME GRAMMY AWARD WINNING SINGER. Anyone that calls themselves PROFESSIONAL should not mess up the song. And brownwood, I do know music, I deal with it every day. There are a lot harder songs than the Star Spangled Banner. I've sung it and played it enough times on different instruments that I should know. Whoever says it is hard is not a good musician. Stick to football brownwood, like beep should stick to making fries.....

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Your Top 5 QB Rankings = Power Rankings (except lamer)

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 7, 2011 10:37 AM | Report abuse

My top 6:

Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Manning
Roethlisberger
Rivers

Posted by: RedDMV | February 7, 2011 9:39 AM

Fixed it for ya! Willing to help out any other Math deprived folks up here as well......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 7, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

But my new preferred strategy would be to trade down


Trading down or out of the 1st round would be doable if you're inclined to do business with the teams that have multiple picks in rounds 1-3.

I'd like to procure a 3rd rounder.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Ok, you're not paying attention to me. I never said she was off key, the KEY is the SCALE, or a set of notes, in which the song is written. And range is the set of notes that goes from high to low. If she picked a lower key, or scale, and made her arrangement easier, then she would have nailed it! It might be challenging for a middle schooler or high schooler to do, but not a 5 TIME GRAMMY AWARD WINNING SINGER. Anyone that calls themselves PROFESSIONAL should not mess up the song. And brownwood, I do know music, I deal with it every day. There are a lot harder songs than the Star Spangled Banner. I've sung it and played it enough times on different instruments that I should know. Whoever says it is hard is not a good musician. Stick to football brownwood, like beep should stick to making fries.....

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse


I am paying attention.

You can adjust your key to hide limitations of your range.

But sometimes it doesn't matter b/c if you are not a range singer, you just aren;t going to be able to go up and down the scale and hit the high-low notes well.

THere are plenty of singers with great voices but with limited range, and so the songs they do have to stay in the safe range.

Bono is a great example of a singer with a great voice but limited range, and he hides it by perfecting a falsetta.

The Natl Anthem is a kind of song that is performed well by singers with range b/c of how frequently it goes from high-low.

Aguilerra's idea of "range" is to go gravy-voice and muddle the notes like a Mo-town diva. I think we both agree that sucks for the Natl Anthem.

The best Anthems, IMO, are performed straight up by folks with some classical training in opera.


Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The Black Eyed Peas, Gaguilera and Usher...is this what passes for entertainment.

National Anthem should be performed by a big fat gospel singer.

The halftime show should be Metallica.

And the commercials were horrible last night.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

My Top 5 (in order):

1. Rivers
2. Brady
3. Cam Newton
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Josh Freeman

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 7, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Not totally disagreeing with you, Moe. But consider this. Let's assume that 5-6 DL have been drafted before we get a pick. Do we take the 6th or 7th best DL, if there is a superior athlete at some other position of need, such as WR or LB, or even FS or CB? We have to look also at who will be available with our #2 pick, at about #42. If we think that a DL available at that time would be roughly equivalent to the #6 or #7 DL in the whole draft, shouldn't we get the superior athlete at #10? I'm just not willing to say, get the best DL at #10, regardless of who it is. That's why I still say, BPA.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 7, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I think people are getting too hung up on this 6th or 7th ranked d-lineman business. If you look at the top defensive line prospects only a couple actually fit our defense. I'd say our rankings should exclude a bunch of those other prospects anyway. For us I think Marcell Dareus should be at the top of our d-line draft board followed by Cameron Jordan. Jordan should be there at #10 and it wouldn't surprise me if that was our pick. I'd be happy. He'd be the 6th or 7th lineman off the board but he'd be our second choice. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone good fell to us at #10. Would I take Jordan over an A.J. Green or Patrick Peterson type prospect? Heck no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying if the draft goes as it should and nobody Buffalo's their first round pick and we can't trade down then we'll most likely end up with Cameron Jordan. If Jordan and Dareus are both gone then I agree we should wait on DE until the second round. There is a dropoff in talent after those two. When you start looking at JJ Watt, Cameron Heyward, and Adrian Claiborne I don't think they are good enough to warrant a top 10 pick.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 7, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I think people are getting too hung...

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 7, 2011 10:43 AM

That's what she said.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 7, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Ok, you're not paying attention to me. I never said she was off key, the KEY is the SCALE, or a set of notes, in which the song is written. And range is the set of notes that goes from high to low. If she picked a lower key, or scale, and made her arrangement easier, then she would have nailed it! It might be challenging for a middle schooler or high schooler to do, but not a 5 TIME GRAMMY AWARD WINNING SINGER. Anyone that calls themselves PROFESSIONAL should not mess up the song. And brownwood, I do know music, I deal with it every day. There are a lot harder songs than the Star Spangled Banner. I've sung it and played it enough times on different instruments that I should know. Whoever says it is hard is not a good musician. Stick to football brownwood, like beep should stick to making fries.....

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse


I am paying attention.

You can adjust your key to hide limitations of your range.

But sometimes it doesn't matter b/c if you are not a range singer, you just aren;t going to be able to go up and down the scale and hit the high-low notes well.

THere are plenty of singers with great voices but with limited range, and so the songs they do have to stay in the safe range.

Bono is a great example of a singer with a great voice but limited range, and he hides it by perfecting a falsetta.

The Natl Anthem is a kind of song that is performed well by singers with range b/c of how frequently it goes from high-low.

Aguilerra's idea of "range" is to go gravy-voice and muddle the notes like a Mo-town diva. I think we both agree that sucks for the Natl Anthem.

The best Anthems, IMO, are performed straight up by folks with some classical training in opera.


Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Peeeps clown me for watching Glee, but wow, this conversation is out of control.

Do you two hear yourselves?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 7, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I'd be ok with Metallica as the half show...not a bad idea at all...I'd personally like to see Van Halen get the nod, but thats just me...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Trading down or out of the 1st round would be doable if you're inclined to do business with the teams that have multiple picks in rounds 1-3.

I'd like to procure a 3rd rounder.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Or if you are dealing with a team that wants to grab a guy like Cam Newton and buy into the hype.

If we can get another pick in the 1st round or high second round.

Ideally I'd like to walk away with a draft haul of Phil Taylor (NT), Justin Houston (OLB/DE) and Ras-I Dowling (CB).

These are guys that I think (hope) could be grabbed middle-first-round to middle-second-round; and fit our scheme.

After that from the 5th round on, we go BPA. The talent pool of our team is hurting and we need to bolster it.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

And the commercials were horrible last night.


Posted by: iH8dallas | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM

.......STAMPED...............

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 7, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I'd be ok with Metallica as the half show...not a bad idea at all...I'd personally like to see Van Halen get the nod, but thats just me...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

They are good live and are "mainstream" enough for the NFL.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 7, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse


Fools,

Since my last posting, I see that Albert Haynesworth has brought more shame to the Redskins. Between him and Danny Boy, Shanahan will age ten years before the end of next season. Even Santana Moss is sick of this outfit. Moss has seen the light. Fools, when will you ever get it ? The current owner and the FO is a recipe for last place in the NFC. At this rate, the Redskins will be a mirror image of what the Lions were the last decade. Dream on, dreaming fools. Snyder's next hire after he shows Allen the door, Matt Millen, Fools, fools, fools.


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Peeeps clown me for watching Glee, but wow, this conversation is out of control.

Do you two hear yourselves?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 7, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse


You should be clowned for watching Glee, you fairy.

My wife is a singer/pianist, and a bunch of our buddies are in bands. That's where I get my music-related knowledge.

Even my wife thinks Glee is gay.

And any discussion about the integrity of our Nat'l Anthem is worth having.

Not only are you fairy Glee-boy, but now I'm starting to wonder if you're a commie as well.

...but you hate Dallas, so you're always welcome under my roof.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

And the commercials were horrible last night.


Posted by: iH8dallas | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM

.......STAMPED...............

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 7, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse


I have to say the Audi commercial with the 2 rich guys breaking out of rich-prison was pretty hilarious.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 7, 2011 10:43 AM


Thanks for the help: that's a good post.

Folks are hung up on the cult of personality regarding a player, and not thinking about who fits into what our defense/offense.

A run-stuffing NT/DT or athletic run end or accurate quarterback or right guard is more like what we need at 10.

And if that guy is not some 'name' guy, but projects well in our system, I say take'em!

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else picture a crazy homeless guy wearing those "the end is nigh" sandwich boards when this guy posts?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 7, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Prince was badass a few years back. Metallica wouldn't be bad. I'd rather have Van Hagar than Van Halen.

Other suggestions:

Jay Z
The Strokes
Pearl Jam
B.o.B
Wolfmother
Sugar Hill Gang (the full length version of Rapper's Delight would take up the whole show)

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Then consider that he's now 4-1 in the playoffs and in his only loss he put up 45 points.

Rodgers/Brady/Brees are defintitely 1, 1a and 1b in the NFL.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2011 9:57 AM

Disagree on Brady...
In my opinion, he would be just an above average QB on any other team without Belichick. Belichick still has employees focused on Defensive signal stealing... Right or wrong, its a key part of Belichick's game preparation and success. If not, why did he continue improperly doing it (sideline close-up video) after being warned twice by the NFL?

I would guess its also a good reason why every former assistant and staff member has failed that has gone on to other NFL teams.

Most recent failure, Josh McDaniels, former assistant to Belichick and now ex Head Coach of Denver, knew first hand how important Defensive signal intelligence was to the Pats. So much so, he brought one of Belichicks videographers with him to Denver. The one that filmed the 49'ers walk through.

So, No.. I dont think Brady is in the top 3 of NFL QBs.

He looks very average when the OC cant tell him whats coming via his helmet mike.. How good would any QB look if he knew a blitz was coming or was just a fake?

Unfortunately for BB and Brady, opposing teams are now starting to use the new Defensive wired Headsets to the Defensive Captains (no signals) and/or change up their defensive signals for the big games..ie. the playoffs.
Could it possibly explain why Brady looked like a different QB, dazed and confused, in the last two Pats playoff games (losses to Ravens and Jets)?

Posted by: reader51 | February 7, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Folks are hung up on the cult of personality regarding a player, and not thinking about who fits into what our defense/offense...

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse


Living Colour would also be a killer halftime act!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Folks are hung up on the cult of personality regarding a player, and not thinking about who fits into what our defense/offense...

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse


Living Colour would also be a killer halftime act!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2011 11:08 AM | Report abuse

We should lose the Star-spangled Banner as our National Anthem. It's an awful piece of music that resembles a barroom bellow sung at last call. It also glorifies war and militarism and says little about our country or nation.

Adopt America The Beautiful. That is a melodic song written to be sung, not howled and it honors our nation for what it is: a beatiful country "from sea to shining sea" shined upon by God's grace.

Posted by: lgm6986 | February 7, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse


Fool. I'm talking about the Redskins and you are so defensive, you must attack me. I call that weak. So, tell me what the next dramatic event will be ? I do not see anything positive coming the Redskins way, except another press conference with the brass patting themselves on the back after winning the offseason championship. Fools.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

The best Anthems, IMO, are performed straight up by folks with some classical training in opera.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Cosign, they hit the notes straight-forward and don't dance around the notes.

I'm putting this dead horse to rest, you guys kept me going on it long enough though!!! hahaha

Just glad Pittsburgh didn't get a SEVENTH ring, sick of my Steeler 'bandwagon' fans bragging and saying 'we have rings for both hands now, like they can count anyway!
Hopefully we'll get closer to them in a couple of years! HTTR!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

oe, agreed on Van Hagar....price is a talented cat....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 7, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

We should lose the Star-spangled Banner as our National Anthem

I agree.

Given the way cash makes America go 'round, the better National Anthem would be:

B!tch Betta Have My Money

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Here's my Redskins draft board for pick #10.

Marcell Dareus
Patrick Peterson
A.J. Green
Cameron Jordan
Von Miller
Julio Jones
Nick Fairly
Prince Amukamara
Mike Pouncy
Ham Sandwich

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 7, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse


Just glad Pittsburgh didn't get a SEVENTH ring, sick of my Steeler 'bandwagon' fans bragging and saying 'we have rings for both hands now, like they can count anyway!
Hopefully we'll get closer to them in a couple of years! HTTR!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 11:11 AM |

You fool, if the Redskins had 6 SB rings you would be just as obnoxious as they are. Get some work done today, fool.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Hey 4th, do I come into your place of residence with advice on how to blow your boyfriend?

Go away.... don't be correcting me, son.

And your boy Newton hasn't thrown a single NFL pass yet. 'Facebook me' when he's in the green room, then maybe I'll put him in a top 5 of something having to do with the NFL. Until then shut your suckhole with your Cam Newton anointing.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 7, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse


Does anyone else picture a crazy homeless guy wearing those "the end is nigh" sandwich boards when this guy posts?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 7, 2011 11:03 AM |

Fool. I'm talking about the Redskins and you are so defensive, you must attack me. I call that weak. So, tell me what the next dramatic event will be ? I do not see anything positive coming the Redskins way, except another press conference with the brass patting themselves on the back after winning the offseason championship. Fools.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

You should be clowned for watching Glee, you fairy.

My wife is a singer/pianist, and a bunch of our buddies are in bands. That's where I get my music-related knowledge.

Even my wife thinks Glee is gay.

And any discussion about the integrity of our Nat'l Anthem is worth having.

Not only are you fairy Glee-boy, but now I'm starting to wonder if you're a commie as well.

...but you hate Dallas, so you're always welcome under my roof.

Posted by: p1funk | February 7, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Amen p1funk. I'm a music teacher, so it always drives me nuts to have someone mess up that song.

And even I don't like Glee, that's hella-gay.

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

If I were to call out one thing as the difference maker in the Superbowl, I would say it was the play of the offensive line. Green Bay's had a lot of stuff thrown at them and they did a pretty good job. Pittsburgh's really didn't do a good job. If Bruce Allen and Shanahan need any inspiration as to what position to draft, I suggest they reflect on the difference maker in the Super Bowl.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 7, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

You fool, if the Redskins had 6 SB rings you would be just as obnoxious as they are. Get some work done today, fool.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Wow, we don't have 6 SB rings are you ARE that obnoxious.

Do you hear that? There's a long walk off a short pier calling your name........
"Dousche"...."Dousche-Bag".......

Don't forget your concrete shoes!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Your Top 5 QB Rankings = Power Rankings (except lamer)

Posted by: iH8dallas


Wow, what a dickwad. What are you mad because you're getting clowned for watching glee? Adjust your tampon and pull your cherry red skrit down. All I was doing is bascially giving a top 5 (or 6) that I would look at first if I were starting my own mob. Sorry if that but a walnut sized boil on your ass...


Maybe your life partner keeps leaving the toilet seat up, or isn't putting the top back on the toothpaste. I suggest you two GUYS work it out. Find something else to b*tch about other than a who's who of QBs list.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 7, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Ham Sandwich


I hear that kid is a porker who spoils in the sun.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 11:34 AM | Report abuse


Wow, we don't have 6 SB rings are you ARE that obnoxious.

Do you hear that? There's a long walk off a short pier calling your name........
"Dousche"...."Dousche-Bag".......

Don't forget your concrete shoes!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 11:29 AM |

Dousche-Bag, a word used by people who cannot respond with anything that has substance. Instead of getting some work done, perhaps going back to school fits your bill. You and your partner should go on a permanent vacation, biggest of fools.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Anyone but me think Green Bay's deep crossing route is almost unstoppable? I watched them torch Chicago and Philadelphia with the same play. Pittsburgh said they knew it was coming, practiced against it all week, and still couldn't stop it. So, Kyle Shanahan and Jim Haslett, your homework assignments are to figure out how to implement it, and figure out how to stop it.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 7, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Ham Sandwich
I hear that kid is a porker who spoils in the sun.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 11:34 AM
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As a center or guard he's okay, but you can't leave him uncovered on the end: linebackers would chew him up.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 7, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I knew I could pull a good response from you this morn Reds.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 7, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Anyone but me think Green Bay's deep crossing route is almost unstoppable?


Terminology-wise, it's called a 'dig' route.

Or: 'deep square-in'.

The Rams of Vermiel and Warner-Bruce-Holt crushed many a team with that route.

What's funny, is that given the elite (there's that word again!) safety play the Steelers feature, you'd think it would've been stopped.

The key is that the receiver running the route comes out of a slot from the opposite of the offense and crosses in front of a safety who's caught helping out deep.

They want the safety to either hit the receiver running the 'dig' or commit deep.

If he goes deep, the 'dig' is open and if he comes up, the corner is one-on-one deep with Jennings/Nelson.

And remember, last night, both of those guys scored deep.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Anyone but me think Green Bay's deep crossing route is almost unstoppable?

Terminology-wise, it's called a 'dig' route.

Or: 'deep square-in'.

The Rams of Vermiel and Warner-Bruce-Holt crushed many a team with that route.

What's funny, is that given the elite (there's that word again!) safety play the Steelers feature, you'd think it would've been stopped.

The key is that the receiver running the route comes out of a slot from the opposite of the offense and crosses in front of a safety who's caught helping out deep.

They want the safety to either hit the receiver running the 'dig' or commit deep.

If he goes deep, the 'dig' is open and if he comes up, the corner is one-on-one deep with Jennings/Nelson.

And remember, last night, both of those guys scored deep.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 7, 2011 12:11 PM
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I see stuff like that and think, "Gee, why can't Washington do stuff like that?" Then I remember the o-line can only give the QB 2.5 seconds of time to throw, the receivers are little guys that get smooshed at the LOS, and our quarterbacks aren't very accurate. Oh, yeah, that's why Washington can't do that.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 7, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Dousche-Bag, a word used by people who cannot respond with anything that has substance. Instead of getting some work done, perhaps going back to school fits your bill. You and your partner should go on a permanent vacation, biggest of fools.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 7, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, repeating what I said, a tactic used by people that have no comeback. Very interesting.

What's worse, wasting time arguing with people on here, or wasting even more time analyzing OTHER people who are on here arguing with people? That's a mystery, but here's some advice:

Maybe you should get to work and stop worrying about what I'm doing, I think your boyfriend is calling you back to his ass-h*le anyway, have fun!

Posted by: monk811 | February 7, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I see stuff like that and think, "Gee, why can't Washington do stuff like that?" Then I remember the o-line can only give the QB 2.5 seconds of time to throw, the receivers are little guys that get smooshed at the LOS, and our quarterbacks aren't very accurate. Oh, yeah, that's why Washington can't do that.


Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 7, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Also should mention that Green Bay has had the same offensive coordinator for 8 years and the QB has been in the same system for 6 years. Aaron Rodgers didn't become elite overnight. He actually has a decent supporting cast and a lot of consistency. Until we stop giving our draft picks away and playing musical coaches we're doomed to mediocrity.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 7, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

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