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Redskins could be a possibility for Houshmandzadeh

Although the Redskins opted to keep six wide receivers on their 53-man roster, they're apparently still considering other options. Put T.J. Houshmandzadeh near the top of that list.

Unable to broker a trade before the deadline for roster cuts, the Seattle Seahawks released Houshmandzadeh on Saturday. According to the Seattle Times, his top options now appear to be the Redskins and the Oakland Raiders.

Houshmandzadeh could be a good deal for some team. Though he has a guaranteed salary of $7 million this season, Seattle will pay the bulk of the contract. Houshmandzadeh will likely land somewhere for the veteran minimum.

Though the Redskins kept a half dozen receivers on the roster, only Santana Moss has a clear cut role. Joey Galloway appears to be the favorite to start opposite him but another receiver could easily come to Redskins Park and make a strong case for playing time. The team's other receivers include Anthony Armstrong, Devin Thomas, Roydell Williams and Brandon Banks, an undrafted rookie.

Houshmandzadeh, who's 32 years old and entering his 10th season, has been a regular starter in the league and topped 900 yards each of the past six seasons. Though he has a strong roots in the West Coast, there's a chance he'd be able to compete with Galloway for the Redskins' No. 2 receiver spot. His best season came in 2007 when had 1,143 and 12 touchdowns on 112 receptions.

By Rick Maese  |  September 5, 2010; 9:39 PM ET
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Comments

Sign him.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | September 5, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

bring him

Posted by: FOURWATTS | September 5, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow a new blog post finally talking about Houshmandzadeh!

Posted by: Skins1 | September 5, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Could explain why they are leaving a PS spot open...for Banks.

Posted by: McMetal | September 5, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Houshmandzadeh is why we only have 7 on the practice sqaud. When he's signed, Banks gets the hook and hopefully remains with us on the practice squad.

Posted by: vengeance | September 5, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

squad

Posted by: vengeance | September 5, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

agreeable move. i also wonder if that undisclosed team attempting to trade for v jackson was the redskins. reportedly they agreed to a contract but the teams couldn't work out compensation. hmmm

Posted by: heatseeker690069 | September 5, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Goldarnit, if I wanted current news I'd go to PFT or the Richmond Times Skins blog.

I came here to check in on the latest atrocities in the 547-comment blog post from yesterday.

Having new news to digest is downright discombobulating.

Come on, Maese, remember the RI mantra--"We'll get to it when we get to it." You don't wanna make your fellow bloggers look bad, do ya?

Posted by: farstriker | September 5, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Two years past his prime and washed up. I thought we were past those days.

Posted by: howjensen | September 5, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

IF we bring in houshmanzadeh...who do we cut?

i'd say either galloway or roydell

personally i think we need to continue with the youth movement. i don't think we should sacrifice a guy like banks and hinder his development as we all know this will most likely be a rebuilding year for us

thoughts?

Posted by: AhsanFamily | September 5, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Why worry about hoosyourmamma when Marko Mitchel is there for the taking?

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 5, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Two years past his prime and washed up. I thought we were past those days.

Posted by: howjensen | September 5, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

If -- and that's a big if -- we are indeed past those days, it will be years before the journalists and bloggers change their Mad-lib template stories:

[Name of a recently cut, former pro-bowl player] may possibly have a new home. Teams that might be interested include [Name of team owned by Al Davis] and [Name of team owned by Dan Snyder]. Officials from those teams would not issue statements, but said off the record that any player on the market is being evaluated by the team.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | September 5, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Develop AA - buying the future fails -- even in the George Allen years when we went from the most exciting offense up to the Air-Coryell era into Larry Brown for 3 yards in a cloud of dust. Seven years later (+/-) we get to draft Art Monk as our first 1st round draft pick since Allen. Hmm - did he and other developed players help the Gibbs era?

Posted by: fr3dmars | September 5, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

AhsanFamily I think that Williams will be the odd man out as well. Banks speed on offense is something that will be utilized creatively by the skins.

Posted by: TWISI | September 5, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Whosyourmomma...championship!

Posted by: WilbonFan | September 5, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/05/tj-houshmandzadeh-looking-at-raiders-redskins/

The phrasing of the PFT story is interesting. It says that Houshmandzadeh is looking at the Raiders and the Redskins... but doesn't actually say that they are looking back at him.

And, face it, if you were Houshmandzadeh and given the recent history, wouldn't you be looking at those two destinations first?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | September 5, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I'd dump Galloway for Housh in a minute. I'm not really sure why Joey is even on the roster to be truthful.

Posted by: elfreako | September 5, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

twisi, ya i do hope they utilize banks this year and not place him on the gameday inactive list

watchin the kick/punt returns and those bubble screens during the preseason were refreshing to watch...hes looked good going over the middle too (surprising considering his height/weight

but those bubble screens caught by banks seem to be a guaranteed 10 yards and whatever extra he could get depending on the blocking by the WR lined up next to him

Posted by: AhsanFamily | September 5, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

If you google "short wide receivers nfl" you come up with Jennings, Santana, and Smith- 5'10." Has there been a starting WR at generously listed 5'7"?

Brandon Banks will do fine on the practice squad. TJ couldn't put up big numbers with Seattle's O-line troubles. He's still got a year or three left.

Posted by: wd324 | September 5, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

We already have 2 receivers better than Houshmandzadeh: Santana Moss and Devin Thomas. Yeah, I said it.

Don't sign him.

Posted by: Barno1 | September 5, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

You left at 10 and you got back at 9. Sounds like you made a day of it -- he probably read the entire New Testament. No wonder you don't go very often.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 5, 2010

Laughter....
Well actually the service concluded at about 11:15 am.
Kept putting off the RI, and finally gave in tonight.
Yea, the Scripture reading was actually only from James 4. Quite the penetrating material to contemplate. Ever read it?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 5, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see that beeps is still on the beat. Quadriplegics need something to justify living.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | September 5, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Seattle pays the vast majority of any contract we sign him to? And we can replace someone like Roydell Williams?

I say we're stupid not to do it.

Posted by: snoopylad | September 5, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

this is a slam dunk if we can get him any where near the vet minimum...adios roydell williams.

Posted by: carsonspence | September 5, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Did Galloway catch more than one pass in pre-season? And we're keeping him why? If we get rid of anyone for Whoozawhatshisname, I'd get rid of Joey. Otherwise, keep what we got, and let's get it on.

Posted by: TRACIETHEDOLPHIN | September 5, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"there's a chance he'd (Housh) be able to compete with Galloway for the Redskins' No. 2 receiver spot."

Really?

2009 Galloway 7 reception for 67 yds
2008 Galloway 13 reception for 138

2009 Santana Moss 70 reception for 902
2008 Santana Moss 79 reception for 1044

2009 Housh 79 reception for 911
2008 Housh 92 reception for 904

Sorta seems Housh would be competing with Moss for the #1 spot

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 5, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

but those bubble screens caught by banks seem to be a guaranteed 10 yards and whatever extra he could get depending on the blocking by the WR lined up next to him

Posted by: AhsanFamily | September 5, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. He ran two or three of those bubble screens on first down and seemed to pick up the first down every time.

Hell, it was so effective, I think it would be worth it to put him on the field solely as a decoy. Line him up in the same formation and then run a draw play...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | September 5, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Seattle pays the vast majority of any contract we sign him to? And we can replace someone like Roydell Williams?

I say we're stupid not to do it.

Posted by: snoopylad | September 5, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

How do people usually respond to that? Do you think I am stupid not to do it too?

Posted by: ELIZA_1966 | September 5, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes, exit Roydell NOT Brandon!!!

Posted by: iubiquity | September 5, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Why sign TJ Scottiepippenzadah? The Seahawks don't even want him.

Wait Eliza, I got this one.

Is that so? For what purpose?

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 5, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

So long, Roydell

Posted by: wagman1 | September 5, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

I'd sign TJ and then cut Galloway. Galloway is #2 or cut. Williams plays special teams and other than DT, there isn't another WR that plays coverage.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 5, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Fk Houshisface! Attitude problem!

Posted by: iubiquity | September 5, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Alvinharperzadeh.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 5, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

housh over roydell or galloway

Posted by: FOURWATTS | September 5, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Hysterical.

Keep jumping through hoops my friend.

Posted by: league_source | September 5, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

i guess that would balance out the diva position...one on d and one on o.....
gotta have a balanced roster....

Posted by: joerutgens72 | September 5, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Championship!

Posted by: my1xrulz | September 5, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Championship!

Posted by: rickyroge | September 5, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Keeping Galloway AND Williams over Austin?? UGH. Let's just hope nobody signs him off the PS. If Dallas got him and he burned us, I'd lose it.

TJ...uh, I don't know. I guess for vet's minimum you'd have to consider it, but I really want to give Austin an opportunity to get promoted to the 53, which would be much harder if you bring in another vet. Rather see TA, AA, DT, BB develop than rent a 32 yr old for 1-2 yrs

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 5, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

this would be a very very good thing for the redskins and for McNabb to finally have a deep threat i see if we get him we could be a 5-10 team this year maybe better HTTR forever

Posted by: xredskinzx | September 5, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain to me the downside to this. Don't have to pay him, big production over 6 years span, eager to prove himself again, vet QB who knows how to use players, a position of deep need.... Oh yeah we may cut into a 7th rounder who couldn't make the team's development (eyeroll) or yeah the second round bust is "better" (eye roll) or that we already have a vet WR who is like 5 years older, or oh no the cowboys might pick up one of our scrap heapers even though they have so many WRs they just traded a former starter...

I mean seriously do you people read your posts.

Let me remind you our WRs past Moss are: a guy who was out of the league for two years, a guy who was done 3 seasons ago, a guy who was already cut from 3 practice squads (I like AA but still...) and a guy who is always better in his own mind than on the field, a KR who holds on to the ball 2/5 times he touches it.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 5, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Silver Spring can bring the worst out in anybody.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 5, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

id keep moss and put t.j. at 2nd and we will we aight i can smell a championship this year put back on p.s let him work out his kinks he drops to many balls yea he had a good run for 77 yrds during the bills game and his fast but come i dont want another randel el on the team thats why we cut his black ass

Posted by: xredskinzx | September 5, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: chrislarry | September 5, 2010 11:41 PM

The dude abides.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 5, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the attempt at a philosophy lesson ELIZA.

I think the point here is that this shouldn't be looked at like the same old Redskins grab at available talent. This isn't the same thing as picking up Jason Taylor - we don't have to give up anything on this one.

We can pay the veteran minimum and treat Seattle like other teams usually treat us by making them pay for a player who is playing for us.

Moss, AA, and Housh sounds like a solid first three WRs to me.

Posted by: snoopylad | September 5, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

If the bring in Houshmandzadeh, I think that Galloway should be the one to go and not R. Williams. If you're going to replace a veteran with a veteran, I say get rid of the guy who is definately at the tail end of his career, and not the guy who could still be productive for several years. It gives the team more options for the future.

Posted by: kaasmaster | September 5, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

This guy was cut from the Seattle freakin' Seahawks. If he had anything left in his tank, they would have kept him around. I am not for keeping a guy as old as Galloway, but exchanging one old guy for another at wide receiver is not going to make the team better. What would really help is if the young guys develop. I think Armstrong is there - Banks and Austin are coming. It's a shame they don't have a big guy to throw into the mix, but I guess, for now, the big guy is DT.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 6, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead- If you think they couldn't use a guy that hasn't had under 900 YDS for the last 6 years and are good with a bunch of guys that don't have 900 YDS in their career then thats on you.

Cut Galloway.

Put Moss in the slot and let TJ and DT play outside of the hash marks. The team is instantly better w/o mortgaging the future.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 6, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Dan's overthehill Skins, always after other teams has-beens that equals what when they depart? Nothing but high hopes then losses.

Did we not learn from Deion and Bruce, TJ Duckett, Fat Albert, Randle El, Carrier, Jason Taylor, Sean Gilbert, Dana Stubblefied, Brunell, Coles, Archuleta, Alvin Harper, James Washington, Scott Galbreath, Spurriers Danny Awfell?

I guess we didn't learn and never learn.

Posted by: morrisday1 | September 6, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

i think everyone is missing the point T.H. has way better stats then Galloway and Devin Thomas i dont see Thomas staying healthy and Banks he still needs a lil more then what he is giving yea i like that he is fast but he drops Alot too and that's one reason we let go on Randel

Posted by: xredskinzx | September 6, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

I forgot about:
... the very washed up Shawn Alexander who signed here 5 yrs past his prime and rushed for like 10 yards here.

Lesson: Leave washed up ex Seattle players alone. Shawn Springs was ok, but ... not great here either. Too old + best days in Washington, as in the state of Washington - not DC.

Posted by: morrisday1 | September 6, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

There is literally no downside to signing TJH. This should have been done yesterday. He'll give the skins 900+ yards easily.

Posted by: hoos3014 | September 6, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Jets/Revis all fuzzy wuzzy.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 6, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

So Revis signed...Good now when the Jets go 6-10, they'll have no excuses.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 6, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: morrisday1 | September 6, 2010 12:24 AM and 12:35 AM

There is a big difference between the players you mentioned and the Houshmandzadeh opportunity.

1. We don't have to give up any draft picks or trade any players to get him.

2. We don't have to pay him a large salary for him to play here, because Seatle is obligated to pay him whatever the difference is between what we would pay him and his guaranteed 7 million.

If you can sign a productive veteran for cheap with no loss of players or picks, then why not? If he winds up being a bust, then you just cut him and move on, without having lost much of anything. Plenty of upside, virtually no downside.

Posted by: kaasmaster | September 6, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

scamp- put me down for the J-E-T-S going 6-10 in the wiki page along with my optimistic 8-8 for the Skins.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 6, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

He's good for a one yr lease till we can agree to terms with jackson....

Everyone knows were goin at him

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 6, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

i really hope we get jackson also and we can trade sum other players and get sum sum draft picks this year that we be great have a qb we can bring up yong wr and someother people we could use

Posted by: xredskinzx | September 6, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

There is literally no downside to signing TJH. This should have been done yesterday. He'll give the skins 900+ yards easily.

-I have an idea. Why don't you stick to being a fan and leave the football decisions up to the coaches. TJH is not a guarantee; which should be particularly evident in the fact that Seattle cut him. Lets give the guys we got a chance and allow Shannahan to bring back the respect that our beloved skins deserve. Have you ever heard of Terrel Davis?? He was the 196th pick in the 1995 draft and was noticed on special teams. He won back to back super bowls for the Denver Broncos with Shannahan. Shannahan won two with Elway at the helm as well. In my opinion, McNabb offers more than Elway, is more athletic and has more integrity. The pieces are in place, lets all give Shannahan some time and lets refrain from wasting all our money on older washed up players who can't even make the cut for teams that were worse than us last year.

Posted by: DCXNTX | September 6, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

This is a NO BRAINER and here is why....

1) CHEAP - The skins can offer vet minimum and Seattle will be forced to pay the rest of his 7 mill contract.

2) PROVEN TALENT - Every single years since 2004, TJ has had over 72 receptions, averaged over 10 yds/rec (except 2008 - 9.8yrds), and had over 900 yards in receptions! The mere fact that he had 900 yards and 79 receptions last year with a broke offense and no other receivers/QB to help him out screams that he isn't some over the hill players (ahem GALLOWAY!!!!)... On the other hand Galloway has done next to zilch the last two years and is 38 freaking years old! I mean come on! I don't care if he is productive! The man is OLD and probably wouldn't last the entire season if we considerably leaned on him for production.

3) SIZE - Analyst keep mentioning skins lack size. I know he isn't massive, but he would be the tallest receiver along with Thomas at 6'2.

4) LOCKER ROOM GUY - He works hard and isn't a "ME" guy. It would be a smooth transition. The fact that some analyst suggested T.O. would be a good fit here was ridiculous. This makes more sense to me...

5) Support for Mcnab - This would show Mcnab that the team is trying to find the best talent available and definitely encourage him to sign a long term deal.

If I were Bruce Allen/Shanahan - If I had control of the roster, I would sign TJ and cut Galloway. That way the team gets younger and we retain the young guys with more promise than past accolades. PLus, I don't think TJ plays special teams so dropping a guy like Banks or R. Williams would be a screw since that would mean one less guy available for s. teams. If Galloway is REALLY too important to get rid of, then I would drop Willams (Banks is too exciting to let go).

On a side note, I am so happy Banks is on our roster. I remember when Moss would break those bubble/screens and take it to the house when Brunell was playing. Banks can do the same. Banks is still raw, but I believe the Shanahans can tame him and so do they or else they wouldn't have kept him on the roster!

HTTR

Posted by: Rashad8o4 | September 6, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

4) LOCKER ROOM GUY - He works hard and isn't a "ME" guy. It would be a smooth transition. The fact that some analyst suggested T.O. would be a good fit here was ridiculous. This makes more sense to me...

Posted by: Rashad8o4 | September 6, 2010 1:10 AM

Rashad8o4 I want TJH, but to say that he's not a "me" guy is not accurate. Some one on the blog posted several quotes (do a search on pft) that indicate the that TJH is a "me" guy. However, like Lewis, I think Shanny can handle his personality and get the production necessary out of Houshmandzadeh

Posted by: TWISI | September 6, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Rashad8o4 I want TJH, but to say that he's not a "me" guy is not accurate. Some one on the blog posted several quotes (do a search on pft) that indicate the that TJH is a "me" guy. However, like Lewis, I think Shanny can handle his personality and get the production necessary out of Houshmandzadeh

Posted by: TWISI
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Well I guess I mean is he wont be as challenging to deal with in comparison to a TO who's name had been floating around most of the offseason. Most pro bowl receivers become "ME" guys after they have accrued impressive numbers. But to say that his attitude could cause major issues in the locker room is highly unlikely.

Posted by: Rashad8o4 | September 6, 2010 1:52 AM | Report abuse

cut wr williams and fb young sign wr Housh and fb Richardson, upgrade the receiving and running games!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 6, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Um fellas? While I'm sure Shanny appreciates the advice, he's still smarter than you.

Posted by: TheCork | September 6, 2010 2:21 AM | Report abuse

He's old and maybe not a 100 reception receiver anymore but for the veteran min. salary we couldn't ask for a better gamble! Take the chance and hope he picks us and not the Raiders.....

Posted by: Fromps | September 6, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

somebody get the pizza and pie out of j reids dirty fat little finger tips and put this lazy pos to work.

Posted by: the_shocker1 | September 6, 2010 2:40 AM | Report abuse

I'm all for signing the Housh and cutting Galloway.

Also, I'm thinking the 8th PS spot will be filled by FB/TE Dennis Morris, picked up from St. Louis' waivers.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | September 6, 2010 3:07 AM | Report abuse

It's hard to argue with signing this guy this year since Seattle's footin' the bill. I mean here's a guy with something to prove, that has a very low price tag, is better than most of the recievers on our roster, and is a proven vet. This would be nothing like overpaying for people in the past. This is us possibly fleecing the Seagulls and that alone is reason enough to pull the trigger. See ya Roydell.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 6, 2010 3:09 AM | Report abuse

T.j would be way way way better wr than vincent jackson..just look at the stats vj has a great. Accurate qb to throw him passes t.j had matt hasselback throwing him the ball and still had a better stats than vj ..matt is four years past his prime and t.j still better and much more cheaper..

Posted by: truko213 | September 6, 2010 3:20 AM | Report abuse

T.j would be way way way better wr than vincent jackson..just look at the stats vj has a great. Accurate qb to throw him passes t.j had matt hasselback throwing him the ball and still had a better stats than vj ..matt is four years past his prime and t.j still better and much more cheaper..

Posted by: truko213 | September 6, 2010 3:20 AM | Report abuse

Can someone explain to me the downside to this. Don't have to pay him, big production over 6 years span, eager to prove himself again, vet QB who knows how to use players, a position of deep need.... Oh yeah we may cut into a 7th rounder who couldn't make the team's development (eyeroll) or yeah the second round bust is "better" (eye roll) or that we already have a vet WR who is like 5 years older, or oh no the cowboys might pick up one of our scrap heapers even though they have so many WRs they just traded a former starter...

I mean seriously do you people read your posts.

Let me remind you our WRs past Moss are: a guy who was out of the league for two years, a guy who was done 3 seasons ago, a guy who was already cut from 3 practice squads (I like AA but still...) and a guy who is always better in his own mind than on the field, a KR who holds on to the ball 2/5 times he touches it.

Posted by: chrislarry
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CL that was like a vulcan mind meld.

Plus the dude's good at run blocking and from what I remember in Cincy, he was a pretty good possession receiver...

Posted by: priceisright | September 6, 2010 3:22 AM | Report abuse

What is it with all these players. ? They hadd " had " their best , like, 3-4 plus years ago, we need the Now and Beyond. !!!! HAIL! !!! See You'll. 9/12 from the upper deck! !!!!!!0

Posted by: killerskunk63 | September 6, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Dont sign this terrorist. VJax's price has to drop in a couple days and he is at least four times better than Housh right now. That's a fact. There is a reason Housh was cut from the team with the fourth worst receivers in the league (STL and CLE and OAK are the only worse WR corps, we are much better off than these teams). It wasn't just the money in SEA, Housh is old and injured. VJax or somebody else please.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | September 6, 2010 4:51 AM | Report abuse

I agree.. Banks will go to the practice squad while the redskins try to sign either VJ or Hoosh..

Posted by: mcampbell007 | September 6, 2010 4:58 AM | Report abuse

and actually J Reid is not a bad blogger when you compare him to Matt/ESPN.. seriously. What has he said about the Redskins that you would consider bad i nthis article. I can't find anything. I must be someone who just wants to smear J Reid for personal reasons.

Posted by: mcampbell007 | September 6, 2010 5:01 AM | Report abuse

and actually J Reid is not a bad blogger when you compare him to Matt/ESPN.. seriously. What has he said about the Redskins that you would consider bad i nthis article. I can't find anything. It must be someone who just wants to smear J Reid for personal reasons.

Posted by: mcampbell007 | September 6, 2010 5:01 AM | Report abuse

TJ Houshmandzadeh prefers the West Coast. He might sign with the Raiders instead.

The Redskins definitely have more intrigue- playing with Donovan McNabb, Santana Moss, Chris Cooley, Clinton Portis and watching Albert Haynesworth and Brian Orakpo from the sidelines. I think TJ would be out of his mind not to sign with the 'Skins.

Posted by: RedCherokee | September 6, 2010 5:15 AM | Report abuse

Let me remind you our WRs past Moss are: a guy who was out of the league for two years, a guy who was done 3 seasons ago, a guy who was already cut from 3 practice squads (I like AA but still...) and a guy who is always better in his own mind than on the field, a KR who holds on to the ball 2/5 times he touches it.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 5, 2010 11:41 PM


Hate to break it to ya, but Housh would only replicate the guy "who is always better in his own mind than on the field"...I mean, this is a guy who caught 92 passes and couldn't crack 1,000 yards. Dude had 9.8 yards per catch his last year in Cincy. I've seen RBs do better. Even Zorn had guys averaging better than a 1st down per reception...

Dude thinks he's a #1 receiver and has yet to prove it on the field. If he can't do it in Seattle, chances are he never will.

I want to see us upgrade the WR position as much as anyone. Just not this guy. The Seahawks are every bit as desperate for WR help as we are and they just cut the guy who was supposed to be their #1. Think about that a minute...that's the equivolent of us cutting Moss, deciding that we're better off trying to get something out of DT and MK. You have to be a REAL liability to get your FO to come to that conclusion.

If we're trying to get a good slot receiver, get Brandon Stokley. Just say no to Housh.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 5:18 AM | Report abuse

"Though the Redskins kept a half dozen receivers on the roster, only Santana Moss has a clear cut role. Joey Galloway appears to be the favorite to start opposite him "

Appears to be the favorite of WHOM, the question should be. The fans have made it clear that Galloway is over the hill / washed up / done / finished.

The favorite might be Austin or Armstrong or Thomas, or even Williams, but Galloway? NOPE.

Howzyermama is OK. He's not a big deal. Apparently, he's not aware of this, so he's looking for Albert Fatsworth type money. I certainly hope it doesn't happen here. He'd be nice to have, but for a year where the most optimistic are predicting 8-8, I do think it's time we look at young talent. IE - people who will make Hoosierdaddy look like the blip in the record book that he is.

We're chock full of needs, unfortunately. Hoseyourpickle is NOT one of them. If they can get him for a bargain basement price, keep him active, use him to learn the youngins, great. If it's some deal where he becomes "the future" of the Redskins, then pass. He's not even TO. He's F'king Houzmanzadah. Possession receiver with a funky name. If that's all it takes, let them give ME the league minimum and I'd be happy to catch 8 yard outs for a few hundred grand a year.

Don't waste much thought on this guy. He aint sh!t.

Posted by: Thinker_ | September 6, 2010 5:24 AM | Report abuse

The Seahawks are every bit as desperate for WR help as we are and they just cut the guy who was supposed to be their #1. Think about that a minute...that's the equivolent of us cutting Moss, deciding that we're better off trying to get something out of DT and MK. You have to be a REAL liability to get your FO to come to that conclusion.

If we're trying to get a good slot receiver, get Brandon Stokley. Just say no to Housh.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 5:18 AM | Report abu

First off Stokley is under contract with the Broncos and just went on IR for the year...so no I do not want him on the Skins.

2nd...just because a team let's go of a player does not mean he can't play or help us..Hawks are NOT desperate for WRs...That is pretty clear when they cut Housh....

Cutting Housh is not the same as cutting Moss as you mentioned. We have a completely different situation here. They have better depth at WR

The problem is they over paid for him and have other Cheaper guys who they feel can do the job and fits their system best...

Housh was signed under another coach and system and does not fit what they are doing now.....Adding WR M. Williams played for the head coach in college.

that all being said...With what we have on our roster at wr at this point...Housh is a huge upgrade and can help our team out now....

Adding that he will come very cheap because he made his money this year with the Hawks...We also could sign him to a one year deal and see what happens...

this can be a low risk high reward situation and I see nothing wrong with giving him a shot. If we live in the past we will NEVER get better.

Posted by: leevi98 | September 6, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Hey Insider, could you get some inside information on Robert Henson. What surgery did he have? How long will take before he could practice? What does waived/injured really mean, did he get an injury settlement or has he just been cut loose? Does he have to pay his own medical bills or does the team cover them because he was injured at work? Could he still work with the team's training/medical staff under league rules?

I love reguritated rumours about free agents as much as the next man, but is there a chance we could see something about players who are or were part of the Redskins.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | September 6, 2010 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Galloway was not used since we know what he already can do - and he was more of a decoy we had to keep because we have no better WR? Is it Joey or Roydell that goes? Please tell me that additional PS spot is not for Banks? A few instructions and he should be good to go. I hope we are going to get another teams player and add him to the PS.

Posted by: artsnsportz | September 6, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

leevi, first of all, the word on Stokley is that he was put on IR to free the Broncos up a roster spot during final cuts. The likely scenario is that he'll get an injury settlement and released, freeing him up to play wherever he wants. I don't know the severity of his injury, but from what I've heard it won't actually keep him out for the season like being on IR would suggest.

Second, the Hawks ARE desperate for WR help. Right now, Golden f-ing Tate is their best WR. That doesn't bode well for Seattle. Housh was cut because he's a blowhard and the new regime wants no parts of him. I don't see why you'd want to add that guy to a mix that already includes AH and another delusional receiver in Devin Thomas.

I love how you close out with "If we live in the past we will NEVER get better." Yet you make an argument to go out and get this generation's Alvin Harper. UFB...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/17804/washington-redskins-cutdown-analysis

Most say we need Housh. I mean I would have to agree with the fact that we may have the worst over all wr core in the league....so why not?

Posted by: leevi98 | September 6, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

If you have a chance to better your football team in an area of need...you do it

Posted by: leevi98 | September 6, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

IF Housh comes, Roydell is gone. Banks is staying on the 53, if he was going to psquad he would already be there.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 6, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

If (and it's a big one) Shanahan wants Housh and he ends up with Al Davis in Oakland, then Bruce Allen is out as Redskins GM.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Most say we need Housh. I mean I would have to agree with the fact that we may have the worst over all wr core in the league....so why not?

Posted by: leevi98 | September 6, 2010 6:47 AM


For the exact same reasons we didn't get TO. EXACT same. Cut and paste if you have to...

If you want 9.8 yards per catch, go get a RB...he'll be cheaper, and quieter...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

If you want 9.8 yards per catch, go get a RB...he'll be cheaper, and quieter...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 7:12 AM

But if you want a receiver who averaged 11.5 yards per catch, then get Housh. That's better than Darren Sproles and Quinton Ganther (11.0), and below Santana Moss (12.5).

Are you making up your 9.8 number or are you misremembering?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

beep, that was Housh's numbers in '08, his last year in Cincy. That's playing next to Ochocinco...a guy that HAS proved he can be a #1 WR.

Again...I want another WR here as much as anyone. All I'm sayin' is that Housh isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is...or as good as some on the blog think he is. He'll fill more space on Reid's notepad than he will in the box score and I'd rather have a guy who's already played in this offense well as a slot receiver--Brandon Stokley. He's not a big name, he's not flashy, he doesn't say much. He just goes out there and does his job. THAT'S what we need, not some self-absorbed asshat that thinks he's better than he is.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Sign him today Dan. At least you won't be stuck with all of his contract. Besides we need an upgrade at wr in light of the lack of contribution from both kelly and thomas. Housh would give Donovan another option alongwith Cooley, Davis and Santana.
Actually Housh addition would free up Santana for the deep one. housh is certainly another option with Cooley and Davis in the red zone.

Posted by: raystitt | September 6, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

beep, that was Housh's numbers in '08, his last year in Cincy. That's playing next to Ochocinco...a guy that HAS proved he can be a #1 WR.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 7:52 AM

So, you cherry pick the lowest average in his nine years in the league? Last year it was 11.5, and his career average is 11.4. Still not the numbers of a #1 WR, but that's not how we'd use him.

Personally, I'm agnostic on this one. But he does seem like a windfall, and he's been more productive than most of our WRs.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead- If you think they couldn't use a guy that hasn't had under 900 YDS for the last 6 years and are good with a bunch of guys that don't have 900 YDS in their career then thats on you.

Cut Galloway.

Put Moss in the slot and let TJ and DT play outside of the hash marks. The team is instantly better w/o mortgaging the future.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 6, 2010 12:20 AM
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Past performance is not necessarily an indication of how the guy can perform today. He's being cut from a team that is almost as desperate as the Redskins for receiver help. This should be an indication that the buyer should beware.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 6, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Mcnabb thrwoing to Moss, cooley and whoseurmomma.... Super Bowl???

Posted by: BarackObama | September 6, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

GET HIM. With what we have we don't have anything to lose...

Do we seriously want Galloway starting? NO

Posted by: rachel216 | September 6, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Sign him he's taller than 6ft. lol

Veterans Minimum!

Posted by: SOLVBACK | September 6, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Sign him he's taller than 6ft. lol

Veterans Minimum!

Posted by: SOLVBACK | September 6, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

If (and it's a big one) Shanahan wants Housh and he ends up with Al Davis in Oakland, then Bruce Allen is out as Redskins GM.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 7:12 AM
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How do you figure that? Don't you think there have already been guys that Shanny wanted and Bruce Allen wouldn't break the bank to sign? They want who they want but they won't sell the farm to get who they want. The WaPo very shortsightedly suggests that TJ would not want to get paid because he's already being paid by the Seahwaks. That's wrong. This is a chance for a player near the end of his career to boost his bank account. He's going to want a lot more than the vet minimum.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 6, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins could be a possibility for Houshmandzadeh"


If we didn't already have J Galloway and R Williams, I'd sign on to this.

In fact, the 'hawks should've released the guy earlier in my book.

(Trust me, NFL teams know who their players are well before camps get underway--they usually only have to decide between 4-5 guys.)

But we have to--at some point--get younger/faster at the wr position.

Adding TJ Housh would probably take AA off the field: who wants that?

Me?: I want time and space for the young'ns to develop.

We say, "No" to adding TJ Housh.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Past performance is not necessarily an indication of how the guy can perform today. He's being cut from a team that is almost as desperate as the Redskins for receiver help. This should be an indication that the buyer should beware.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 6, 2010 8:12 AM

Yes, it is an indication of that. It is also an indication that Pete Carroll is not up to coaching in the NFL. A lot of teams are dining on the stuff he's throwing out as garbage (and vice versa). Peter King said today "I think Pete Carroll hasn't had to say it out loud to get the point across to the Holmgren/Mora/Ruskell regimes: I don't like the players you left me. Dealing Josh Wilson for a fifth-rounder, cutting T.J. Houshmandzadeh, signing and starting Mike Williams, looking hard at Vincent Jackson and Matt Leinart. Carroll needs to be right on most of these. The natives aren't sure he knows what he's doing."

By the way, he also had a shot for the Redskins: "Personnel Acumen Award, East Coast Version: To Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan of the Redskins for having two of their six 2010 draft picks make the final 53-man roster. Now, the cuts were all sixth- and seventh-round choices, but those should be core special-teamers at manageable salaries with which you fill the bottom quarter of your roster."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Right on RSH...I just don't get why anyone could believe that Housh will instantly improve our WR corps. Seattle has even less than we do and he couldn't do it there...

beep, putting Housh's blowhard tendencies aside (which got him run outta Seattle, BTW), he's probably best used as a slot receiver. Even if you roll the dice on this clown, who plays the outside with Moss? DT? Joey Galloway? AA? We need an outside threat and Housh ain't that guy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Housh will likely go to whichever team offers him more money for more years. He's making $7mill this year on Seattle's dime wherever he goes. How much do we want to pay the guy when he's 33, 34, 35? That's the question.

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

How do you figure that?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 6, 2010 8:23 AM

Because Davis fired Shanahan in Oakland, and Shanahan hates Davis more than this blog hates Michael Wilbon.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Because Davis fired Shanahan in Oakland, and Shanahan hates Davis more than this blog hates Michael Wilbon.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:30 AM


I know there's still some hard feelings there, but it can't be that bad if they did business on the Campbell deal on draft day. Just sayin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Housh will likely go to whichever team offers him more money for more years. He's making $7mill this year on Seattle's dime wherever he goes. How much do we want to pay the guy when he's 33, 34, 35? That's the question.

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 8:26 AM

If there are only two teams bidding for him, he's not getting diddly. He will get vet min this year plus maybe $6 million next year with, say $2-3 million of it guaranteed. It's essentially a one-year contract. I doubt that either team wants him for more than a year and he probably figures that there will be more competition if he's available earlier in the cycle.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

By the way, he also had a shot for the Redskins: "Personnel Acumen Award, East Coast Version: To Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan of the Redskins for having two of their six 2010 draft picks make the final 53-man roster. Now, the cuts were all sixth- and seventh-round choices, but those should be core special-teamers at manageable salaries with which you fill the bottom quarter of your roster."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

2010 draft picks:
1 TW check
2 DMac check
3 JJ maybe, but VC made this selection
4 PRiley check
7 SCapers PS
7 ECook PS

I think the "2 out of 6" argument is inaccurate. We had a real need for OL, which they helped with 2 7th round picks. That was more important than getting depth for ST's.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 6, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

d 44

"Put Moss in the slot and let TJ and DT play outside of the hash marks."


Slow down their, buddy.

The Moss in the slot thingy is already gonna happen.

But TJ Housh outside with DT--Oh, Hell Naw!!!

TJ Housh blew up a lil bit in Cincy because Ochocinco/Palmer was so good that it opened the field up for him.

Since then and without them, Housh has been hushed up.

RI TJ Housh luv is more about who he used to be and not the 32 year old past his prime receiver he is now.

And having DT playing opposite Housh will make most NFL corners practice so lazily they'll eat chee-burgers before practice.

With time, the team will discover that F Davis is the second best wr on the team.

We should see formations where Davis is 'flexed' wide to where he can exploit match ups with a safety or linebacker.

Right now, the skins need an outside linebacker and right tackle more than TJ Housh.

And as for me, I just wish all the 'TJ Housh to the Redskins' talk would just hush up.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

beep, that was Housh's numbers in '08, his last year in Cincy. That's playing next to Ochocinco...a guy that HAS proved he can be a #1 WR.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 7:52 AM

So, you cherry pick the lowest average in his nine years in the league? Last year it was 11.5, and his career average is 11.4. Still not the numbers of a #1 WR, but that's not how we'd use him.

Personally, I'm agnostic on this one. But he does seem like a windfall, and he's been more productive than most of our WRs.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Hey Brown..You ever consider that he played for a bad football team last year? That had no o line pass protect long enough for a wr to get down field. Plus the starting qb was out for quite sometime...how do you know the Hawks offense called fo him to run those patterns? My guess is yes...I also know Shanny and kyle have an offense that will stretch the filed with good qb play...Housh will be a great fit in the shanny offense.

Posted by: leevi98 | September 6, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

TJ would be able to fit into the WR corps in whatever fashion the staff envisioned Malcolm Kelly fitting in.

They are similar receivers in that they are taller possession type guys who won't burn anyone in the open field.

They are different receivers in that TJ is a Pro Bowl guy who stays healthy and Malcolm Kelly is a fragile no-account flop living off of Kyle Shanahan's charity.

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

beep, putting Housh's blowhard tendencies aside (which got him run outta Seattle, BTW), he's probably best used as a slot receiver. Even if you roll the dice on this clown, who plays the outside with Moss? DT? Joey Galloway? AA? We need an outside threat and Housh ain't that guy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Not worried about 3rd WR...we have many 3rd WR...Im comfortable with Moss and TJ at 1 and 2 and then Armstrong, Thomas or Galloway sharing time at 3 but armstrong is perfect for it.

Posted by: leevi98 | September 6, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Revis and Jets Agree on New Contract


Revis is worth the contract Haynesworth hasn't earned, but has.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

hey brownwood26, Housh caught 7 more passes than our #1 WR did last year. If that got him canned by Seattle I'll take it.

2009 Santana Moss 70 reception for 902
2009 Housh 79 reception for 911

Bring him on, cut Williams, and have him and Moss in 2-receiver sets with Moss in the slot and AA as the #2 WR in 3-receiver sets.

Have (1)Housh, (2)DT, (3)Moss, (4)AA with Moss and AA in the slots in 4 receiver sets. Let's see a team's nickel/dime DBs handle Moss and AA... not possible.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | September 6, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I think the "2 out of 6" argument is inaccurate. We had a real need for OL, which they helped with 2 7th round picks. That was more important than getting depth for ST's.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 6, 2010 8:37 AM

Two out of six is completely accurate. They made six selections and only two are on the roster. Period.

What you're doing is constructing a footnote that elaborates on why it's the wrong measure. And, in so doing, you're implicitly assuming that if they'd actually made the picks instead of trading them, then the picks would have made the roster.

But I have to say that, like Peter King, I think that two out of six is not good. Are you claiming that it is?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

79 catches for over 900 yards is hardly being hushed up, it's better than what Santana Moss did last year. And it's not like he was in a much better situation last year than Moss was in, the Seahawks were a pretty dreadful team last year.

Not really sure what the problem would be bringing in a guy like Housh for the vet minimum if you can do it.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | September 6, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

79 catches for over 900 yards is hardly being hushed up, it's better than what Santana Moss did last year. And it's not like he was in a much better situation last year than Moss was in, the Seahawks were a pretty dreadful team last year.

Not really sure what the problem would be bringing in a guy like Housh for the vet minimum if you can do it.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | September 6, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Right now, the skins need an outside linebacker and right tackle more than TJ Housh.

And as for me, I just wish all the 'TJ Housh to the Redskins' talk would just hush up.

Posted by: MistaMoe


Thought J. Brown was our answer at RT? Agree we need OLB help!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 6, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Amen Moe...good to see I'm not the only one up here looking at Housh for what he is and not his Madden rating (which he's always willing to discuss in depth)...

leevi, you're proving my point dude...we already have a bunch of 3rd WR. Getting another one with a motor mouth who lacks the game to back it up is not on our list of needs. If the Raiders want that mess, they can have it. I'm more worried about helping our interior O-line than getting TO's bizarro....

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

We need upgrades at both guard positions and center. WR's are the worst group in the league unfortunately. Better get Davis and Cooley in favorable match-ups all year.
Still, a three year rebuild folks. HTTR!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 6, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Please do not sign this locker room cancer. We dont need any more flash in the pan free, ego maniac, over the hill trouble makers on this team...we have enough already.

Posted by: hughesbob19 | September 6, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Because Davis fired Shanahan in Oakland, and Shanahan hates Davis more than this blog hates Michael Wilbon.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:30 AM

I know there's still some hard feelings there, but it can't be that bad if they did business on the Campbell deal on draft day. Just sayin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 8:36 AM

Good point. But Shanahan thought that sending JC to Oakland was a poke in the eye to Al Davis.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

TJ Housh's options?????

Da Raiders??

Jason Campbell, Heyward-Bey, L Murphy, D McFadden, Al Davis (in the slot, of course).

That's not gonna happen.

Da Skins????

Donovan McNabb, Santana Moss, Chris Cooley, Clinton Portis, Mike Shanahan (split wide, of course).

That'll probably happen.

But if you're Washington, should you take on-field time away from young receivers like AA and DT, then subtract a vet in RW or JG, to make space for someone who'll have to learn the offense and 'get on the same page as McNabb' to make the move purposeful?

Hell Naw!!

Let's keep what we got and build with the guys who've worked all Spring and Summer.

Why cut into the development of AA and DT by adding a receiver whose presence will put them off the field?

Let them become guys who catch 30-40 balls apiece this year.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Two out of six is completely accurate. They made six selections and only two are on the roster. Period.

What you're doing is constructing a footnote that elaborates on why it's the wrong measure. And, in so doing, you're implicitly assuming that if they'd actually made the picks instead of trading them, then the picks would have made the roster.

But I have to say that, like Peter King, I think that two out of six is not good. Are you claiming that it is?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse


Remember when all of Vinny's draft picks made the roster? Was that good or bad?

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"Sorta seems Housh would be competing with Moss for the #1 spotPosted by: zcezcest1"

Good point. Maybe they mean a possession receiver rather than a downfield threat. I think that's what he was mostly in Cincinnati. Looks like he averaged a couple yards less per catch than Chad.

I'd be willing to write off the Seattle experience and give the guy a shot.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Why cut into the development of AA and DT by adding a receiver whose presence will put them off the field?

Let them become guys who catch 30-40 balls apiece this year.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 9:17 AM

This is probably what Donovan McNabb is saying. "I want to build a team, not buy a team. Please don't bring this guy in."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

But I have to say that, like Peter King, I think that two out of six is not good. Are you claiming that it is?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm very happy with our draft, considering what this FO inherited in January. TW, DMac, PRiley, and some depth for OL on PS.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 6, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

"Remember when all of Vinny's draft picks made the roster? Was that good or bad?
Posted by: p1funk"

Also a good point. People have said for a long time that Vinny was automatically saving a spot on the roster for most of the draft picks. Looks like the new crew doesn't have the same philosophy.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Right now, the skins need an outside linebacker and right tackle more than TJ Housh.

And as for me, I just wish all the 'TJ Housh to the Redskins' talk would just hush up.

Posted by: MistaMoe

To say the need for OLB and OL depth is greater than WR isn't really the point. At OLB and OL there isn't a player that has performed at the level of consistency that Housmendzadeh has, at the price you can get him for available at this point on the market. WR has a clear need for a talent upgrade. As pfunk said, Housh will fill the role that Kelly would have. He'll give the Skins another reliable/known option besides Cooley and Moss at the beginning of the year. I say bring him on.

Posted by: TWISI | September 6, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Remember when all of Vinny's draft picks made the roster? Was that good or bad?

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 9:17 AM

Remember when only two of Allen's draft picks made the roster? Was that good or bad?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Also a good point. People have said for a long time that Vinny was automatically saving a spot on the roster for most of the draft picks. Looks like the new crew doesn't have the same philosophy.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 9:22 AM |

And it looks like they're not able to pick players who are better than the ones they already have.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Brown, your position on Housh is a bit mystifying.

You've been an advocate for going out and bringing in Vincent Jackson - a headcase in his own right who would cost us a high draft pick and $30-50 mill in a long-term contract. He's been to one Pro Bowl, never caught more than 63 balls in a year, doesn't have speed/moves or YAC ability.

TJ Housh has averaged more than 90 catches and 1000 yards a season over the last 4 years, and he'll likely cost us the veteran's minimum. Sure he's 32, but we're not going to lock him up for 7 years.

What gives?

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

We have enough head cases in the locker room. I say pass.

Posted by: stwasm | September 6, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm very happy with our draft, considering what this FO inherited in January. TW, DMac, PRiley, and some depth for OL on PS.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 6, 2010 9:22 AM

1. DMac was not drafted. That was a trade.
2. A guy on the practice squad provides no depth. If Hicks goes down, you can't substitute Capers.

No way you can look at 2 out of 6 draftees making your squad and say "that was a good draft! Hope we can do it every year!" This is not what it means to "build through the draft."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

"I'm very happy with our draft, considering what this FO inherited in January. TW, DMac, PRiley, and some depth for OL on PS.
Posted by: frediefritz"

IMO, it's about what we could have expected. The two of six figure is misleading, because the team was missing (via trade) its #2, 3, and 5 picks. That's the cream of anybody's draft crop. The 6th and 7th round picks are always at risk for the practice squad. Occurs to me that the late acquisition of Jammal Brown made it less likely that a 7th rounder like Capers would be on the active roster. They also picked up a couple FAs who surprised: Banks and the fullback. A positive sign that FAs were able to bump draft picks -- smacks of real competition.

Not a great draft, but not a terrible one. And of course, we're going to have to wait a couple seasons for the final grade.

Coaches sometimes say that the success of a pro club is determined by the development of its 3rd and 4th year players. That's what Washington is missing, and we're hoping the new management can overcome those weaknesses.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

And it looks like they're not able to pick players who are better than the ones they already have.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse


Not entirely true.

Brandon Banks was brought in as a UFA. He could have easily been selected in the 7th round over Terence Austin, and Terrence Austin could have been the UFA.

Same for Dennis Morris and Logan Paulsen.

For Capers/Cook, I don't know. Is it a good thing or a bad thing that the coaches thought that the guys we already have are better? We've been talking about wanting/needing some decent veteran depth on the Oline and so we got some. I feel better going with the vets and letting the young guys develop on PS, personally.

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

I think people who are diehard either way on the TJ matter miss the point. It's not a no-brainer either way IMO. Yes, he would help our WR corps. But he would also do so at the expense of Armstrong, Banks, and eventually Austin I hope. On the other hand, saying TJ is washed up trash is absurd too. The argument that "Seattle cut him; he must suck" is inherently flawed. Upper echelon players get cut routinely for a variety of reasons not related to performance.

I'd kick the tires real hard and think what it may cost us - not in $ but in long term development - before I give this guy a contract, and if I did it would be a one yr deal with a club option for a 2nd yr at best.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 6, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

1. DMac was not drafted. That was a trade.
2. A guy on the practice squad provides no depth. If Hicks goes down, you can't substitute Capers.

No way you can look at 2 out of 6 draftees making your squad and say "that was a good draft! Hope we can do it every year!" This is not what it means to "build through the draft."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

We used our #2 pick to add a player to our roster. And not just any player, but a top 10 QB. That to me is a very solid use of #2.

Capers and Cook were 7th round picks. Best hope is that they can be solid reserves next year, maybe a starter in year 3.

BA/MS started with a 1, a 2, a 4, 2 6's and 2 7's. That was what they had to work with. You cannot judge them on what some other team had.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 6, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

p1funk

"Remember when all of Vinny's draft picks made the roster? Was that good or bad?"

Bad, obviously.

And the thing is, there was no coordination between the coaching staff and Vinny about what type of player was desired.

And thus, you got a roster of mismatched players and schemes.

And then, when the drafted/FA acquisition didn't play well, Vinny made sure the player remained on the roster as if to say, "Hey, I know what I'm doing!"

Well, for know, I'm glad he's done.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Remember when all of Vinny's draft picks made the roster? Was that good or bad?

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 9:17 AM

Remember when only two of Allen's draft picks made the roster? Was that good or bad?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse


Well, that's the question. You seem to have already determined that it's "bad". Why?

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I'm not certain how much role Bruce Allen has in the draft process. He's not been known as a draft guru -- in the past, his expertise was more on the contracts and management side. Special talent for getting along with difficult owners like Al Davis and the Glazer Brothers. That's a job description in its own class.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep, is your job in life to argue? Like are you a lawyer?

2 of 6 picks could be either a great draft or horrible one. Same with 6 of 6 making the team. the % in and of itself means little, bordering on nothing. If TW turns into the next Chris Samuels, Perry Riley is starting in a few yrs, and Austin is promoted and eventually an impact WR (all very possible), this will have been a VERY good draft. I'd say at this point the 2010 draft was a step in the right direction, but it's too early to say definitively. Judging a draft 1) based on the % of picks that make the team and 2) 4 months after the draft is prematurely absurd.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 6, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

About Capers: as camp went on, he looked less and less like an NFL OT and more like a guard. I guess when you consider the West Virginia offense, that makes sense. I didn't hear much about Cook either way.

Teams make mistakes on linemen. I see the Steeler's dumped last year's 3rd rounder, Kraig Urbik. An even bigger disappointment than Rinehart, I guess.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

"beep-beep, is your job in life to argue? Like are you a lawyer?"

LOL maybe he's just trying to keep himself awake.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

twisi

"As pfunk said, Housh will fill the role that Kelly would have. He'll give the Skins another reliable/known option besides Cooley and Moss at the beginning of the year."


If anything, your point only highlights the extent to which the Kelly injury as hamstrung the skins' passing game.

(Yes: the pun is intended.)

And too, folks seem to think TJ Housh will come in, and on day one, 'get on the same page as McNabb': something that takes time.

Which belies the point about having an immediate option to Cooley-Moss.

(That player is here already: Fred Davis.)

A move for TJ Housh could've been made during the early days of Haynie v. Shanahan, and the receiver would be an important part of the offense by now--but that didn't happen.

For my money, three speedy young receivers--AA, DT, BB/TA--who can catch 30-40 balls apiece are better options at this point as you're also building for the future.

(And since the future for us is not now, I again say, "No," to TJ Housh.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse


beep-beep, is your job in life to argue? Like are you a lawyer?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 6, 2010 9:48 AM |

Co-Sign, every time I post he has a smart ass remark to make.


Posted by: hessone | September 6, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Houshmandzadeh's can't run anymore, but for the veteran's minimum, I'd give him a shot.

Posted by: anw821 | September 6, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Co-Sign, every time I post he has a smart ass remark to make.


Posted by: hessone | September 6, 2010 9:57 AM

They only seem smart to you because you're an ass.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The Cards kept Max Hall as the backup over Leinart, apparently figuring Matt would be too resentful over losing the starting job. Hall had a great game against Washington. He's only 6'1", however, and will be 25 years old in a couple weeks -- typical BYU quarterback. They might be looking for a veteran shortly.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Houshmandzadeh coming to the Skins shouldn't be a question. If the price is low and the contract is for minimal time/expense, get him in here.
I don't what's made you so bitter today, Brownwood. I normally agree with a lot of what you say, but I really disagree on this point. We all know Santana is our #1 receiver. Housh's previous 5 seasons as a #2 (on Cin with #85) showed he was consistently pulling in 900+ yards each year. In Seattle, where they were statistically worse than we were last year, he still met those metrics.
I'm sorry if having him on the squad means he pushes out Roydell or Galloway and puts AA, DT, & BB on the bench more, but having his 900+ yards to go with Moss' 1,000+, Cooley's 700+, and Davis' 500+ sounds too good to pass up.
I'm not worried about his mouth. He's 32 and mellowing. Funny what age does to one's perspective about their own visions of grandeur.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | September 6, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Co-Sign, every time I post he has a smart ass remark to make.


Posted by: hessone | September 6, 2010 9:57 AM

They only seem smart to you because you're an ass.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 10:01 AM

In boxing, this would be called punch, then counter-punch in retaliation.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Brown, your position on Housh is a bit mystifying.

You've been an advocate for going out and bringing in Vincent Jackson - a headcase in his own right who would cost us a high draft pick and $30-50 mill in a long-term contract. He's been to one Pro Bowl, never caught more than 63 balls in a year, doesn't have speed/moves or YAC ability.

TJ Housh has averaged more than 90 catches and 1000 yards a season over the last 4 years, and he'll likely cost us the veteran's minimum. Sure he's 32, but we're not going to lock him up for 7 years.

What gives?

Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 9:27 AM


Ok, let me present my case in spreadsheet form:

VJ-

-27 years old
-Big, physical receiver with speed and blocking skills that Shanahan covets
-Back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons
-17.2 career ypc
-Proven #1 WR
-Keeps his mouth shut and plays ball (current holdout notwithstanding)
-Loves the hooch (2 DUI)

Houshmandazeh:

-32 years old
-Average size possession WR (you could only call him "big" compared to our Lilliputian WRs)
-11.4 career ypc (with a putrid 9.8 ypc in '08)
-Only two 1,000 yard seasons despite catching 70+ passes each of the last 6 years
-Alvin Harper Jr.--looks mighty good when there's a great #1 lining up opposite him. Not so much when HE'S gotta be the #1
-Loves some Housh...and won't STFU about it


Hopefully that clears things up.

I'm on record as saying that I don't wanna give up another pick for VJ. So any advocating for him you heard was in regards to whether we could get him and get rid of AH in the process. But if it were an either/or scenario, I'm taking VJ 10 times outta 10 and twice on Sunday.

I could be wrong on Housh (God knows I was LOUD wrong on the Moss/Coles trade), but I just don't see where he's helping here. We already have 2nd tier, past-their-prime possession WRs. We need a #1. If Housh wasn't an overrated blowhard, I might back it. But this guy makes TO-esque noise and gives you 10 ypc. That, my friend, isn't worth the trouble. Especially when AH has the market cornered on drama in D.C.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I was looking at Houshmandzadeh, doesn't seem like he's missed an inordinate number of games. Where's the rumor coming from that he can't run anymore?

The thing that distinguished TJ as a receiver was the extremely low drop percentage. I think one year it was around 2%. He's a good blocker. I understand he needs to play across from a deep threat like Chad to be really effective, however.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse


They only seem smart to you because you're an ass.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 10:01 AM |

Oh so predictable. Have a good day beep-beep.


Posted by: hessone | September 6, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

When only two of six draft picks stick -- in a rebuilding year -- they ask themselves in Redskins Park "What went wrong?" They're not running around, high-fiving, "We did it! What a great draft." This is a problem to be fixed, not an institutional strength.

If you're only getting a third of your picks right, then you do not have the choice of "building through the draft." You cannot maintain your roster with that success rate plus a few UFA's who are bottom-of-the-roster guys. You are, forever, trading picks from next year's draft and scanning the waiver wire for aged and injured vets. Allen is perpetuating this cycle, not breaking it.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 6, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

"Funny what age does to one's perspective about their own visions of grandeur."

moe at 25 in the club talking to a hottie:

Girl, once I get you home, I'm gonna hit that thang all night.

moe at 46 in the bed with a horny mrsmoe:

Girl, the only thing I'm hitting tonite is a pillow.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse


In boxing, this would be called punch, then counter-punch in retaliation.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 10:05 AM |

Not quit moe, if you read my post it is beep-beep who punches first, as I pointed out. Now, I'm thru with it, as he will continue on and on most likely.

Why not sign Houshmandzadeh to the league minimum ? Banks on the practice squad might help his development and allow him to put on some muscle weight. I can't see the downside to this move, how about it ?

Posted by: hessone | September 6, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

do not want Houshmanzadeh...he's a punk, locker room cancer...bigoted

Posted by: arioch666 | September 6, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm not worried about his mouth. He's 32 and mellowing. Funny what age does to one's perspective about their own visions of grandeur.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | September 6, 2010 10:05 AM


Great Oden's raven...are you joking with that? I mean, really...have you HEARD the kinda stuff coming out of Housh's mouth since he went to Seattle? Dude is talking MORE as he's getting older, not less. And each statement he makes is more outlandish and idiotic than the last. And that's "mellowing" to you? UFB...

Moe is articulating this much better than I am today, so I defer to him...folks assume that Housh is coming here a putting up 70+ catches and 900 yards by virtue of putting on burgundy and gold...that ain't happening. He missed OTAs, training camp, and preseason. If they sign him before lunch today, he won't crack a playbook before Tuesday...just as the gameplan is being put in. He doesn't know McNabb from Adam, so it's not like they're in the same book--let alone the same page. With VJ, he at least has a history of working out with him in AZ during the offseason.

This guy won't do a damn thing here before Week 4 in Philly at the absolute earliest, probably more like after the bye week. For all the talking he does and the playing he doesn't, he's simply not worth it.

That's why I've been saying if you're gonna get a slow possession WR to stick in the slot, get Stokley...he already knows the offense from his time in Denver, knows his role in the WR pecking order (both in the league and on the team), and would start contributing around the same time Housh just starts getting the playbook down. This ain't Madden...you don't just plug and play Housh, nor can you separate the d0uche that he is from the potential production. Just say 'no' to Housh.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Signing Housh for the minimum and dropping Galloway or Roydell is a no brainer. If Armstrong or Thomas prove to be better WR's than Housh during the course of the season they will be playing over him. This upgrades the roster and gives another option at a position of need.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | September 6, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse


do not want Houshmanzadeh...he's a punk, locker room cancer...bigoted

Posted by: arioch666 | September 6, 2010 10:19 AM |

Yea, that would go against a youth movement, which I support over trade or FA signings. This situation seems different, since we'd possibly upgrade the position now at the league minimum, and again give Banks time to eat burgers and pump iron.

Posted by: hessone | September 6, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"If you're only getting a third of your picks right, then you do not have the choice of "building through the draft." You cannot maintain your roster with that success rate plus a few UFA's who are bottom-of-the-roster guys. You are, forever, trading picks from next year's draft and scanning the waiver wire for aged and injured vets. Allen is perpetuating this cycle, not breaking it.
Posted by: beep-beep"

Well, this seems to me like an argument that begins with a very questionable assumption and just follows it to its conclusion. You're forced to accept the premise that the draft class yielded only 33% success -- I won't go into the problems with that, since so many others have. It also presupposes that trading draft picks for veterans is inherently bad in all situations, which nobody has bothered to prove either. Giving up a second round pick for Jason Taylor is one thing; for Donovan McNabb, quite another.

If this is analysis, I'll stick with dry stats.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

What sort of passing game do you want?

Saints, '09

Marques Colston 70
Devery Henderson 51
Jeremy Shockey 48
Reggie Bush 47
Robert Meachem 45


That's a nice spread of catches and suggests the ball is being spread around.

And, the saints feature a solid rush attack as well.

Point: We'd like to see the skins develop a similar passing attack where 3-4 speedy young, affordable players who catch 35-45 passes are at a premium over 1 or 2 older pass catchers.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

By the way, the scouts are now touting seven QBs in next year's draft class. FWIW, here they are:

1ST ROUNDERS: Ryan Mallett, Andrew Luck, Jake Locker
2ND ROUND: Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder
3RD ROUND: Jerrod Johnson, Kelly Page

Nobody seems sure what to do with the Ohio State kid.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 6, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

VJ-

-27 years old
-Big, physical receiver with speed and blocking skills that Shanahan covets
-Back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons
-17.2 career ypc
-Proven #1 WR
-Keeps his mouth shut and plays ball (current holdout notwithstanding)
-Loves the hooch (2 DUI)

Houshmandazeh:

-32 years old
-Average size possession WR (you could only call him "big" compared to our Lilliputian WRs)
-11.4 career ypc (with a putrid 9.8 ypc in '08)
-Only two 1,000 yard seasons despite catching 70+ passes each of the last 6 years
-Alvin Harper Jr.--looks mighty good when there's a great #1 lining up opposite him. Not so much when HE'S gotta be the #1
-Loves some Housh...and won't STFU about it


Hopefully that clears things up.


Yes...It shows you do not have much fact but explained your opinion more.

I on the other hand....would love TJ for a year or two at low impact concerning money. I agree with


DC2AZ99

"I'm sorry if having him on the squad means he pushes out Roydell or Galloway and puts AA, DT, & BB on the bench more, but having his 900+ yards to go with Moss' 1,000+, Cooley's 700+, and Davis' 500+ sounds too good to pass up.
I'm not worried about his mouth."

and I agree with p1funk

"You've been an advocate for going out and bringing in Vincent Jackson - a headcase in his own right who would cost us a high draft pick and $30-50 mill in a long-term contract. He's been to one Pro Bowl, never caught more than 63 balls in a year, doesn't have speed/moves or YAC ability."

TJ Housh has averaged more than 90 catches and 1000 yards a season over the last 4 years, and he'll likely cost us the veteran's minimum. Sure he's 32, but we're not going to lock him up for 7 years.

What gives?

Posted by: | September 6, 2010 9:27 AM

Posted by: leevi98 | September 6, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Bought a retro skins t-shirt yesterday. The R with the feathers on it. I'll wear it to the game because when I wear a jersey, it's that players kiss of death.

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 6, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 6, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse


Is VJ really a "proven" #1 receiver?

Antonio Gates is the #1 receiver in that offense. He's consistently beaten VJAx in receptions, TDs, and YAC...yes that's right - the tight end has a better YAC average than Vincent Jackson. (TJ has a better career YAC than VJax).

Last season, VJax had 10 more receiving yards on the season than Gates.

You knock Housh b/c he's played alongside a number 1 receiver in Chad.

VJax has been playing with a guy who may very well go down in history as the most prolific receiving tight end ever.


Posted by: p1funk | September 6, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Haven't done a lot of homework on Housh, but if Skins decide to get him I say drop both Galloway and Roydell and bring Austin back up. Final six would be:

Moss
Housh
Armstrong
Thomas
Banks
Austin

Posted by: bones21 | September 6, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

i can't find anything on the net about
TJ having an attitude problem....
sign TJ DeBarge!

Posted by: priceisright | September 6, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Hey brownwood, is Stokely available?

Posted by: wagman1 | September 6, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: t1205 | September 6, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: t1205 | September 6, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse


moe at 46 in the bed with a horny mrsmoe:

Girl, the only thing I'm hitting tonite is a pillow.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 6, 2010 10:16 AM |

Half of a v!agra later, I'm hitting the pillow hoping I'm asleep in 4 hours and not seeking medical treatment !

Posted by: hessone | September 6, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

This is a complete no-brainer. Any of you who are not in agreement with signing TJ should have their head examined. This is an IQ test and those that fall in the not-want TJ category have failed. An excellent possession receiver at the league minimum salary.

Posted by: tbarz1 | September 6, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

This is such an easy call, don't understand why there is even a debate. Sign Housh for a year or two. The skins don't have a clear #2 receiver right now, and Housh is a possession guy who would balance out the deep balls to Santana. 32 is not that old for a wr. Plenty of guys are productive until 34 or 35 at least. Housh has had 70+ catches for the past 5 or 6 years, has good hands, and plays hard. The Seahawks cut him for financial reasons (i.e. avoiding a costly long-term deal) because they are rebuilding, not because he's washed up. Also, on a revenge note, would be nice to have the Seahawks pay for a guy who puts up big numbers for the skins--haven't forgotten about a few years ago when the seahawks knocked the skins out of the playoffs.

Posted by: robby4 | September 6, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I think it would be smart to sign him at a low price.

Who cares about the 10ypc average or whatever, isn't that a first down?

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 6, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep

Posted by: NCICURN | September 6, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

If you sign Houshmazilli you give Roydell Williams the axe and keep Banks.

Posted by: MadeRED | September 6, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Wow - Housh, Boldin, Holmes, Marshall, T.O. all changed teams and the Skins passed on all of them.......for Joey Galloway.

Posted by: coparker5 | September 6, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

The problem with signing Housh now, is that he hasn't had any time to work with McNabb. How quickly can he pick up the rhythm?

Posted by: jboogie1 | September 6, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

The problem with signing him now is the Ravens have signed him.

Posted by: jbworldwide | September 6, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Oh and you're suppose to the Redskin Insider...then why did he sign with the Ravens???? I thought Oakland and Washington were his choices....

Posted by: papaskynz | September 6, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The problem with signing him now is the Ravens have signed him.

Posted by: jbworldwide | September 6, 2010 11:37 AM
=========================================
LMAO!
Wish we could have got him...

Posted by: priceisright | September 6, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Housh signed by Ravens.

Posted by: jfwil | September 6, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

We will be just fine with the group of receivers we have in place now.It doesen't take big names in this league to win just chemistry and some talent,I see Austin on the roster before season end,Galloway won't be able to stay healthy for a full season at 38,there is a reason he was leaning towards retirment I see our core of receivers just as talented as anybodys inthe league just given the opportunity to shine,that they will have in shanny's offense,he is a better talent evaluator than we could ever hope to be he has done it before why not now,let's just wait and see.

Posted by: fboyd454 | September 6, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Skins are more likely to be interested in Brandon Stokely - he's old and coming off an injury settlement with the Broncos (groin injury I think)

Posted by: coparker5 | September 6, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Rumor is that P.J. Housh is signing with the Ravens for a 1 year $700,000 contract to go with what Seattle owes him.
Donte Stallworth is injured for the Ravens so they upgraded and beat us to P.J.

Posted by: raystitt | September 6, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Dear TJ,
You seen like a nice guy so I want to warn you, you need to talk with other people before you come here to play. Talk to Norv Turner, Jim zorn, Steve Spurrier, Joe Gibbs, Brad Johnson, Jason Campbell, and Albert Haynesworth. Coming to Washington is a bus ticket to insanity. You will be abused. Dan Snyder does not care about winning he cares about getting even. He spends all of his time disrespecting anyone who signs a contract with him. He has a 24 hour a day radio station and a bunch of no nothings/never played the game kind of guys who love to bash players/coaches and other servants of Snyder 24/7. That contract will be a step to slavery. Read this guys column all bash Albert Haynesworth all the time. It beats talking about football and how competitive this team will be in the NFC East. Not. Dallas is going to run their running backs into the flat and into the zones where outside linebackers normally play and the redskins converted defensive ends are playing and run for 20 yards a pop. Somehow that will be Albert Haynesworth's fault. Dallas will hang a 40 or a 50 on this defense because the redskins do not have outside linebackers. The press--the Washington Post and Dannys radio station will write about Dannys latest punching bag. If you come here it will eventually be you. Slavery is illegal everywhere but the Washington Redskins. I hate to say it but Oakland is a better choice. As bad as the owner is, he is better than this guy. Dan Snyder promised to turn the team over to Shanahan and Allen, now the have just started doing Snyders dirty work. If your smart go somewhere else.

Posted by: HelloNewman1 | September 6, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/06/ravens-reach-agreement-with-tj-houshmandzadeh/

so much for Housh....

1 moss
2 Galloway
3 Armstrong
4 Thomas
5 Williams

Posted by: mrhney03 | September 6, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I saw this at running back in Indianapolis, Adai and Edge some time ago.
It won't work for Baltimore, like it would have for Washington.

Points: Housh will compete with the TE, Two WR's who WILL get the ball more. He's not as good as a Check down 3rd option, as it first appears. He's more dangerous as #1 or # 2 because he's open on the outset of the QB's limited passing clock they keep in their head. In Washington, he was more likely to do more damage. For Baltimore, being part of a team the challenge for Superbowl IS more appealing, but Baltimore's got some points to handle yet again down the stretch. I don't see this Baltimore defense as the one of the early 2000thds. Once you get past the starters in each position, their chances are no more than the average 500 team. One must not lose sight of the depth ability to pick up without a hitch. I favor Washington when they get that one receiver and that one D lineman. Otherwise Baltimore has the same chance as the year before, with the same problem. Referres won't save them, like they desperately did in the preseason.

Likely scenario: This may lead to disorienting Housh and frustrating the passing game at crucial moments. Fleco's going with who gets open, but DON'T look for him to hold back winging it downfield to AB or the TE against a slow LB. H
I say the TE because Housh will be left without a catch as the other two will clearly want it more down the stretch. A year is exactly right for him in Baltimore. I would be surprised if

Posted by: ByRon12 | September 6, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

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