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Redskins hire Haslett as defensive coordinator

(Updated at 10:28 p.m.)

Jim Haslett and the Redskins struck a deal Tuesday night that makes Haslett the team's new defensive coordinator and means the Redskins will have a markedly different defensive philosophy going forward.

Haslett was in Ashburn on Monday, and a league source told the Post's Mark Maske that the two sides struck a deal Tuesday night. The agreement, later confirmed by Haslett's agent, Peter Schaffer, means that Mike Shanahan has now lined up both of his coordinators. His son, Kyle Shanahan, is leaving his position as offensive coordinator in Houston and is expected in Ashburn next week. Haslett was also a candidate for the Giants' defensive coordinator opening, and reportedly was due in New York for an interview on Wednesday.

The Redskins also considered secondary coach Jerry Gray, who also interviewed for head coach Jim Zorn's job. It's widely believed their first target was Cincinnati's Mike Zimmer, who signed a three-year contract extension with the Bengals today.

Calling Haslett's partnership with Mike Shanahan "a recipe for success," Schaffer said by phone: "It's a situation where I think that Jim and Mike Shanahan have developed both a great respect over many years, as well as a friendship. I think they have a lot of similar philosophies, and there's definitely been a lot of communication."

Haslett replaces Greg Blache, the Redskins' defensive coordinator the past two seasons. He is expected to retire.

Haslett brings an impressive resume to his new position, having previously served as head coach in New Orleans from 2000-05 and as interim coach in St. Louis in 2008. Last season, he coached the Florida franchise in the UFL's inaugural season. He's also served as defensive coordinator in St. Louis, New Orleans and Pittsburgh. He has a reputation for using aggressive defenses and found success with the Steelers using the 3-4 defense, a formation that Shanahan has explored using.

Haslett inherits a defense that was ranked fourth in the NFL in 2008 and 10th in league last season and has considerable personnel returning. Players such as Brian Orakpo, Andre Carter and Albert Haynesworth could give him the flexibility to install a 3-4 defense. The pass defense was ranked No. 8 in the league last year and the Redskins posted 40 sacks, which also ranked them eighth.

Blache had used a similar system as his predecessor, Gregg Williams, though he took a more conservative approach because of personnel, prompting public complaints from Haynesworth, who was upset with how he was being used.

With Haslett now wearing a Washington headset, it's widely believed a more aggressive attack could be on the horizon.

In addition, Bob Slowik, Shanahan's defensive coordinator in 2008 who spent four total seasons in Denver, is also Washington-bound, according to a league source. He has plenty of experience with defensive backs and could be coaching them with the Redskins.

By Rick Maese and Barry Svrluga  |  January 12, 2010; 9:38 PM ET
 
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Well...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

First

Posted by: SkinsFanCT7 | January 12, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

First?

Posted by: noseman4681 | January 12, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Honestly...this is nice. I got nervous when I heard the Giants were going after him. It will be nice to finally have an aggressive defense. Can't wait to see Orakpo next year. What happens w/ Andre Carter?

Posted by: SkinsFanCT7 | January 12, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Good hire. The 3-4 is more confusing for QB's, and the Skins need any advantage they can get.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 12, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

3-4 is great and all that but Haslett sucks

Posted by: wattsicon | January 12, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

ugh. Fail. This guy is so over-rated. He really turned the Saints and Rams into Defensive power houses...

Posted by: jnmarx | January 12, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I hope this crazy looking bastard sends some pressure

Posted by: noseman4681 | January 12, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

ugh. Fail. This guy is so over-rated. He really turned the Saints and Rams into Defensive power houses...

AGREED

Posted by: wattsicon | January 12, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

whats with the haslett sucks crowd? reasons?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 12, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Haslett brings up memories of Pat Swilling, Sam Mills, Ricky Jackson, and a great defense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully he brings something more here than he did in New Orleans or any of his previous gigs.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 12, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Um guys... a few years back, Jim Haslett fingered me, at a Halloween party. Trust me... this is a good signing.

Posted by: noseman4681 | January 12, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

So NOT HAPPY about this. I've never been impressed with Haslett. And not impressed with our all white coaching staff.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

So NOT HAPPY about this. I've never been impressed with Haslett. And not impressed with our all white coaching staff.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 9:54 PM |

Never took you for a flake but now...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

From an earlier post:

"But as the profootballtalk.com post explains, Redskins fans might want to - gulp - actually root for the Cowboys to beat Minnesota on Sunday and advance to the NFC Championship game. The four teams involved in the conference championship games will have further restrictions on their offseason pursuit of free agents ..."

Just goes to show u how tard PFT is. Dallas has looked like a team without any holes lately - good O and good D. They won't need to pursue FAs in the offseason. They already have a stable brimming with good quality players, unlike most other teams (cough, cough).

Posted by: LibertyValence | January 12, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight. This year we had too many d lineman and not enough LB's to run a 4-3 so now we're gonna run a 3-4? Wonder how Haney's gonna feel about this?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

So NOT HAPPY about this. I've never been impressed with Haslett. And not impressed with our all white coaching staff.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 9:54 PM

Aren't there only 2 coaches hired so far?

Posted by: wattsicon | January 12, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope Haslett will use Big Albert, Orakpo, and Carter in situations that play to their strengths. Same with the other D players, hopefully he lets Landry stay closer to the line . And BLITZ! It gets you some sacks and turnovers every once in awhile if done correctly. Blache didn't seem to comprehend that.

Posted by: 72Redskins | January 12, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins hire Haslett as defensive coordinator"

To them of you who doubt that Haslett has what it takes to be a good DC, the name says it all - Haslett has it.

Posted by: LibertyValence | January 12, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth wont be happy with this since he'll be a NT being asked to take up space and not rush the passer again.

Posted by: ssktigers | January 12, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Haslett > Zimmer...Yes? Bengals' D looked inept against the Jets--twice in two weeks. DC fault...Yup.

Lisa: You have a problem with white coaching staff? Why?

Posted by: smokeybear2 | January 12, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I'll give Haslett this... he's got a hairy a-hole

Posted by: noseman4681 | January 12, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

yeah! where are the Asians on Shanahan's staff?

Posted by: jyshim | January 12, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

the skins will not be making a full time switch to the 3-4... they will use the 3-4 in passing situations when the ball is between the 40's... put look for jamon at dt in the nickel and dime... fat albert will completely revolt if the skins ran the 3-4 fun time...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | January 12, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I wish Haslett the best of luck, hope he'll be more aggressive than Bland, ugh I mean Blache, and let his players do what they do best. However the guy's resume doesn't blow you away. Has he had a top five defense?

Posted by: 72Redskins | January 12, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth wont be happy with this since he'll be a NT being asked to take up space and not rush the passer again.

Posted by: ssktigers | January 12, 2010 10:00 PM |

So if the dud is as good as everyone claims, why can't he just push the whole pile back into the QB's face and get "pile sacks"?

Posted by: LibertyValence | January 12, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

the skins will not be making a full time switch to the 3-4... they will use the 3-4 in passing situations when the ball is between the 40's... put look for jamon at dt in the nickel and dime...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | January 12, 2010 10:02 PM

I hope you're right. It would be nice to see a hybrid used. Does anybody do that? Seems to me that people catch onto schemes so it would be nice to see some new ones.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Whose gonna play LB in the 3-4?? I like the move long-term, but this may set back the defense in 2010 - we have no depth at LB and have so many other areas to address.

Posted by: coachtanahan | January 12, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Lisa:
Why you got something against white coaches? You mad at Harry Reid and Bill Clinton for what they said about Obama?

Posted by: smokeybear2 | January 12, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Whose gonna play LB in the 3-4?? I like the move long-term, but this may set back the defense in 2010 - we have no depth at LB and have so many other areas to address.

Posted by: coachtanahan | January 12, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Redskins need some burka wearing beeches on the staff.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

lol @ LISA CALM DOWN DER LIL LADY

Posted by: Felz2o2 | January 12, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Well Big Al got his wish Blache will not be back but he will be a NT Careful what you wish for big guy. Maybe they use A.Mont as a NT during 1st and 2nd down then bring in Haynesworth to play the 3rd technique with a a 4 man rush on 3rd down?

Posted by: Istudydrugs | January 12, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Haslett's best years as a DC were in PIT under Cowher:

Defensive Coordinator (PIT 1997):
Final Record: 11-5
Defensive Rank: 11th

Defensive Coordinator (PIT 1998):
Final Record: 7-9
Defensive Rank: 7th

Defensive Coordinator (PIT 1999):
Final Record: 6-10
Defensive Rank: 12th

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 12, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth wont be happy with this since he'll be a NT being asked to take up space and not rush the passer again.

Posted by: ssktigers | January 12, 2010 10:00 PM

Isn't Haynesworth more the type that occupies lineman and let others make the play. At least that is what he says. The Steelers Casey Hampton becomes an interesting option if he hits FA. He can rotate in with Haynesworth,giving him rest and also allowing him to play DE. Besides Haynesworth, the skins should find two more players for the NT position.

WTF is up with Lane Kiffin. I feel so sorry for all the recruited players who went to Tennessee to be coached by him and his father, only to see a new coach directing them next year. I do think Lane will do well at USC.

Posted by: TWISI | January 12, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

From Jason

Look for Haslett to invoke lots of 3-4 elements in this defense, with Shanahan reportedly intrigued by that scheme. Haslett could well bring defensive line coach Tim Krumrie with him, but the Redskins also interviewed former Giants assistant Mike Waufle as a defensive line coach candidate Monday, at a time when Haslett was also interviewing. Longtime Shanahan associate Bob Slowik will be a part of the staff as well, sources said, likely coaching in the secondary in some capacity.

Sources said Rick Venturi is a strong candidate to be linebackers coach, and the Redskins have also asked and been granted permission to interview Lou Spanos, who spend the last 15 years as an assistant linebackers coach with Pittsburgh, which runs a 3-4 (Haslett ran a 3-4 there when he coached for the Steelers as well). Current secondary coach Jerry Gray, who interviewed for Washington’s defensive coordinator and head coaching job but got neither, is a candidate to remain on staff. Redskins safeties coach Steve Jackson, who interviewed to remain on staff in some capacity Tuesday, could possibly remain as well.

Posted by: wattsicon | January 12, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Haslett has never had the type of players anywhere he's been before that he now has in Washington trust me on that!!!!MistaMoe hit it right on the head with mentioning those players and for those of you who dont know any of those guys please google them and then get back with your Jim Haslett comments.I can bet you one thing you will not see the constant missed tackles by LL30 or D.Hall or hell anybody for that matter, neither will you see the corners giving 15 yards of cushion or will you see on 3rd and 3 our MLB dropping into the the Tampa 2 defense...but what you will see is all types of exotic blitz packages and sound tackling.Mark my word we may not rank any higher next year than we did this year but we will not loose the amount of games next season with Haslett as we did with Blache this season,and thats if we stick with the 4-3 defense.The 3-4 defense if we do make that switch, we will be a defense that opposing OC will really have to game plan for, you must know how you can attack a 3-4 defense if not you will be caught off guard (See the Raven vs Pats game from last Sunday or the Eagles vs Cowboys game on Saturday)those 2 teams 3-4 confused and harassed 2 of the leagues best QB's in Brady and McNabb...Brace yourself fellow Skins fans this team may be much better than we expect without much overhaul to the roster but by addition to the coaching staff.

Posted by: robbkels | January 12, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The 100 million dollar NT....brilliant

Posted by: tgy1369 | January 12, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

For a newspaper that counts Boswell among its sports journalists, how did JReid ever land a job?

"Blache had used a similar system as his predecessor, Gregg Williams..."

That's "similar to." Consult your sophomore high school English grammar.

"...though he took a more conservative approach because of personnel..."

Which personnel and why? What were the weaknesses of these unnamed players and what prompted a "conservative" approach?

"...prompting public complaints from Haynesworth, who was upset with how he was being used."

Would you care to summarize how he was being used, or presumably, misused? Or is that too much to ask?

"With Haslett now wearing a Washington headset, it's widely believed a more aggressive attack could be on the horizon."

Whoa. Way out on a limb here, JR. "Widely believed." Coast-to-coast consensus that something new could be on the horizon, due perhaps, to the presence of a new DC? Insight!

Help.

Posted by: eyestreet | January 12, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

USC steals Lane Kiffin from Tennessee

Hopefully he gets his stuff out of state before the get the guns and dogs together

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully he gets his stuff out of state before the get the guns and dogs together

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I bet there are signs up at county lines with slogans something like "Don't let the sun set on Lane Kiffin in these here parts".

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 12, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

The defensive line is made up of a nose tackle (NT) and two defensive ends (DEs). Linemen in 3-4 schemes tend to be larger than their 4-3 counterparts to take up more space and guard more territory along the defensive front. 3-4 defensive ends were usually defensive tackles when entering at first. They must be strong at the point of attack and are aligned in most cases head-up on an offensive tackle. First and foremost, they must control run gaps. Size and strength become more of a factor for linemen in 3-4 defenses than in 4-3 defenses because they move primarily within the confines of line play and seldom are in space using athletic ability. Ideally 3-4 DEs should weigh 285–300 pounds (129–136 kg) and be able to beat double teams by getting a push.[5] The 3-4 nose tackle is considered the most physically demanding position in football.[6] His primary responsibility is to control the “A” gaps, the two openings between the center and guards, and not get pushed back into his linebackers. If a running play comes through one of those gaps, he must make the tackle or control what is called the “jump-through”—the guard or center who is trying to get out to the linebackers. The ideal nose tackle has to be much bigger than 4-3 DTs, weighing around 330 pounds or more. Ted Washington is considered the prototypical nose tackle of this era. “In his prime, Ted Washington was the ideal guy,” says an AFC pro personnel director. “He was huge, had long arms, and you couldn't budge him. He could hold off a 320-pound lineman with one hand and make the tackle with the other.”[6] Since most college teams run a 4-3 defense, most college DTs are more of a 4-3 tackle than a true nose tackle, which makes good 3-4 NTs hard to find.[6] One standout NT at the college level is Terrance Cody, the 350-lb All-American senior from Alabama who will enter the 2010 NFL Draft.

Sounds like AH qualifies to play NT. OR, sign Wilfork and move AH to DE... off the chain.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

put griffin at NT and big al on the end with carter and orakpo as the outside lbs

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | January 12, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Linebackers
Linebackers in the 3-4 base defense
“ I think good coaches will coach with the personnel they have, and if you only have one (good) linebacker, you’re not going to play a 3-4. ”

—Hank Bullough, who installed one of the first 3-4 defenses with the New England Patriots.[7]

In a 3-4 defense, four linebackers (LBs) are positioned behind the defensive line. The linebacker unit is made up of two inside linebackers (ILBs) flanked by two outside linebackers (OLBs). The OLBs often line up closer to the line of scrimmage than the ILBs, but may also be positioned at the same depth or deeper in coverage than the ILBs (though this is somewhat rare).

Strengths of the 3-4 include speedy ILBs and OLBs in pursuit of backs in run defense and flexibility to use multiple rushers to confuse the quarterback during passing plays without being forced into man-to-man defense on receivers. Most teams try to disrupt the offense's passing attack by rushing four defenders. In a standard 4-3 alignment, these four rushers are usually the four down linemen. But in a 3-4, the fourth rusher is usually a linebacker, though many teams, such as the Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens, use a talented safety to blitz and confuse the coverage, giving them more defensive options in the same 3-4 look. However, since there are four linebackers and four defensive backs, the fourth potential rusher can come from any of eight defensive positions. This is designed to confuse the quarterback's pre-snap defensive read.

A drawback of the 3-4 is that without a fourth lineman to take on the offensive blockers and close the running lanes, both the defensive linemen and the linebackers can be overwhelmed by blocking schemes in the running game. To be effective, 3-4 linebackers need their defensive line to routinely tie up a minimum of four (preferably all five) offensive linemen, freeing them to make tackles. The 3-4 linebackers must be very athletic and strong enough to shed blocks by fullbacks, tight ends, and offensive linemen to get to the running back. In most cases, 3-4 OLBs lead their teams in quarterback sacks.[8]

Usually, teams that run a 3-4 defense look for college “tweeners”—defensive ends that are too small to play the position in the pros and not quite fluid enough to play outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense—as their 3-4 outside linebacker. According to NFL coach Wade Phillips, 3-4 linebackers “are a little bit cheaper, and you can find more of them,” while “it's harder to find defensive linemen to play a 4-3 and pay for all of them.”[9]

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

HEY POST WRITERS! WHERE'S THE STORY ON THE LYING TRAITOR PIECE OF S--T LANE KIFFIN GOING TO USC?

WE HERE THAT WHEN HE TOLD THE TEAM, 2 PLAYERS LUNGED AT HIM-ALL THE RECRUITS ARE NOW BACKING OFF.

THAT LYING LITTLE B---TARD! I HATE HATE HATE! TO SAY THAT AL DAVIS WAS RIGHT-BUT OOOOH, BROTHER-AL DAVIS WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY-THE LITTLE WIENER BETTER GET HIS SORRY A$$ OUT OF K-TOWN IMMEDIATELY-OR HIS A$$ WILL BE DRAGGED OUT BY A LYNCH MOB!

GOD-HE HAS SET VOLS PROGRAM BACK AT LEAST 2 YEARS WITH HIS TRAITOR, LYING WAYS! GO TO HELL KIFFINS! BOTH OF YOU!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

not sure how i feel about these coaching moves. on one side anything different than what we've done in the past has a higher probability of success. Although, it just makes me a bit uneasy with all these new faces.

Posted by: vtsquirm1 | January 12, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

if you watched any titans football with AH, he primarily played inside, but on occasion played DE or KVB would take an inside rush and AH would go outside around him. that is what he was talking about, instead we had a line up and hold your gaps at all costs with a rare safety or LB blitzing. which scheme would a OC like to prepare against? so please get off AH and lets see how the defense is used this season.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

if you watched any titans football with AH, he primarily played inside, but on occasion played DE or KVB would take an inside rush and AH would go outside around him. that is what he was talking about, instead we had a line up and hold your gaps at all costs with a rare safety or LB blitzing. which scheme would a OC like to prepare against? so please get off AH and lets see how the defense is used this season.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the negativity, when has haslett ever had the players to work with that he has here give him a chance people.

Posted by: SkinsRealist1 | January 12, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

PEYTON, PEYTON, DO SOMETHING! DO SOMETHING PEYTON-YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE YOUR DISCIPLES-GET TONY DUNGY FOR THE VOLS-DO IT PEYTON, DO IT FOR YOUR FLOCK, PLEASE PEYTON-PLEEEASE!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

What about Jerry Gray?

Posted by: abxinc | January 12, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

To them of you who doubt that Haslett has what it takes to be a good DC, the name says it all - Haslett has it.

Posted by: LibertyValence | January 12, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

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Actually, his name says "Has Lett."

Which must mean that ol' Double Nickel has induced Leon Lett, aka the Big Cat, who's been working as a defensive line coach at the University of Louisiana at Monroe, to make the jump to big-time coaching.

Posted by: farstriker | January 12, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

So NOT HAPPY about this. I've never been impressed with Haslett. And not impressed with our all white coaching staff.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I like Haslett. He has been either DC or HC for about 14 years now. He is a fiery leader. He will be agressive, and won't take any bs from players

But what is this "all white" comment? His son? DC? There will be about 14 on his coaching staff. Let's wait on the racist comments, please.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

DON'T SLEEP ON CHRIS WILSON PEOPLE THE KIDS GOT SKILLS AN SPEED AN THE PUT CARTER AT LB COMMENT WAS A JOKE RIGHT?

Posted by: Felz2o2 | January 12, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Is this Vol Insider? NO? I didn't think so either.

F Tennessee and their criminal punk having bball AND fball teams.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

GOD-HE HAS SET VOLS PROGRAM BACK AT LEAST 2 YEARS WITH HIS TRAITOR, LYING WAYS! GO TO HELL KIFFINS! BOTH OF YOU!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:31 PM
=========================================
So it begins

Set loose the Bubbas, beers, beagles and bullets

Git-r-done!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

hey skins fan-whassa matter? little wiener problems? sooooooo sorry EFF YOU, AND THE LOSER HORSE YOU RODE IN ON-MATTER OF FACT, WHY DON'T YOU HITCH UP TO THE LYING NARCISSISTIC NUT CASE KIFFIN-AND YOU CAN BE DRAGGED OUT OF TOWN AS WELL, HUH? H

HOW BOUT THAT?

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth wont be happy with this since he'll be a NT being asked to take up space and not rush the passer again.

Posted by: ssktigers | January 12, 2010 10:00 PM

Haynesworth is a disruptive player who can easily line up against usually smaller centers, collapsing the pocket against the run while pushing towards the QB. That's while even Haynesworth himself have repeatedly said that all he do is collapse the pocket and let other people make plays off him.

Posted by: abxinc | January 12, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

LISA = MORON. seriously?! is that a real issue with you? I personally dont give a rats a$$ what color they are as long as they do well, and I for one am not so sure about Haslett. So Lisa if you were joking then, fine, but if you were serious then its a-holes like you that keep the torch of stupidity lit fo all of mankind.

Posted by: SkinEm1 | January 12, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

hey skins fan-whassa matter? little wiener problems? sooooooo sorry EFF YOU, AND THE LOSER HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!-MATTER OF FACT, WHY DON'T YOU HITCH UP TO THE LYING NARCISSISTIC NUT CASE KIFFIN-AND YOU CAN BE DRAGGED OUT OF TOWN AS WELL, HUH? H

HOW BOUT THAT?

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

hey skins fan-whassa matter? little wiener problems? sooooooo sorry EFF YOU, AND THE LOSER HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!-MATTER OF FACT, WHY DON'T YOU HITCH UP TO THE LYING NARCISSISTIC NUT CASE KIFFIN-AND YOU CAN BE DRAGGED OUT OF TOWN AS WELL, HUH? H

HOW BOUT THAT?

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

What you have to like about this is Haslet's style combined with Shanahan's demand for accountability and attention to details. Shanahan and Haslet both are coming here with something to prove: that they are damn good coaches. Shanahan knows his d stunk at the end of his tenure at Denver, and this hire is proof he doesn't want the same here. For Haslet, this is his chance to get a defense with some actual talent (though not flawless by any stretch). But I guarantee you this, he won't have guys playing out of position. For one, #30 won't be flying around 50 yds behind the line of scrimmage.

Posted by: pgugino | January 12, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

DON'T SLEEP ON CHRIS WILSON PEOPLE THE KIDS GOT SKILLS AN SPEED AN THE PUT CARTER AT LB COMMENT WAS A JOKE RIGHT?

Posted by: Felz2o2 | January 12, 2010 10:42 PM | Report

Good call there. Forgot about Chris Wilson. I think he will do well as an OLB in a 3-4. He has done pretty well as a LB in the 4-3. He may be the perfect candidate. So What does our lines look like with the personnel we have?

Carter(Jarmon)/Hayney(Griff, Golston)/Daniels(Golston, Orakpo)

McIntosh, Fletcher, Blades, Orakpo(Wilson)

Any variations thereof?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

LOL AWESOME. Spring rain from the tears you are crying over Laney, Boo hoo hoo he left...lets KILL HIM

Face it, tenn got PUNKED, and now yer dumb azz is on REDSKIN INSIDER going nuts in all caps over it. Classic. Hahahahahahaha.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Spring_Rain = DB

not defensive back either

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Spring_Rain

You Mom and Sis are in the pickup and are ready for your double date

Git-r-done buddy!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

hey skins fan-whassa matter? little wiener problems? sooooooo sorry EFF YOU, AND THE LOSER HORSE YOU RODE IN ON-MATTER OF FACT, WHY DON'T YOU HITCH UP TO THE LYING NARCISSISTIC NUT CASE KIFFIN-AND YOU CAN BE DRAGGED OUT OF TOWN AS WELL, HUH? H

HOW BOUT THAT?

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:45 PM |

That was a poor excuse for a rant. Leave it to the pros.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

they could have done much better then haslett.. where r the 4 lbs for this 3-4.. no1 on the current roster can blitz or cover.. we still have the issue of whose gonna evaluate the talent for the defense..

Posted by: cboyhater | January 12, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Arizona Cards Anquan Boldin on the trading block.

Posted by: abxinc | January 12, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

EVERYBODY THOUGHT SOMETHING STRANGE WAS GOING ON AT THE VOLS-VT BOWL GAME ON NYEAR'S EVE-VOLS WERE ALL SUBDUED, NOT PLAYING WELL AT ALL, AND THE LYING LITTLE MONKEY D--HEAD KIFFIN WAS ALL SUBDUED, QUIET-LIKE, AFTER THE GAME-LIKE HE DIDN'T GIVE A DAM. HE EVEN GAVE THE VOLS AN EXTRA DAY OFF-IN POINT OF FACT, THE LITTLE TRAITOR WAS OUT IN CAL, MAKING HIS PACT WITH THE DEVIL-

WELL-WE KNOW HIS A$$ AND THAT OF HIS TEAM'S WILL BE ON PROBATION FOR AS LONG AS ANY TEAM IS WILLING TO BRING THAT PIECE OF MONKEY S--T ON AS A COACH-VOLS ARE REALLY BETTER OFF WITHOUT HIM, BECAUSE FOR SURE THEY WERE GOING TO GET INTO NCAA VIOLATIONS WITH THE 'TARD AROUND.

SO (USC) THE UNIVERSITY OF SATAN'S CHILDREN GET EXACTLY, AND I MEAN EXACTLY, WHAT THEY DESERVE-AL DAVIS, I CAN'T EVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU AGAIN! YOU DIDN'T GET TO BE AS RICH AS CROESUS BEING A DUMMY, NOW DID YOU? YOU HAD THAT PIECE OF S--T KIFFIN FIGURED OUT FROM DAY ONE-AND YOU CALLED HIS LYING LITTLE A$$ OUT PUBLICLY AND CORRECTLY-YES, YOU DID!

WELL, VOLS WILL HAVE TO SWALLOW A BITTER BITTER PILL-LIVE AND LEARN!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Spring_Rain

You Mom and Sis are in the pickup and are ready for your double date

Git-r-done buddy!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 10:54 PM

you left out gramma, the more experienced one. lol

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo, Rocky Mac, Fletcher, Wilson are the 4 LB.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

they could have done much better then haslett.. where r the 4 lbs for this 3-4.. no1 on the current roster can blitz or cover.. we still have the issue of whose gonna evaluate the talent for the defense..

Posted by: cboyhater | January 12, 2010 10:56 PM |

See my post above. I think those players are serviceable. And if not Haslett, who would you rather have?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Definitely wouldn't surprise me to see Orakpo and Shawn Merriman as our two starting outside linebackers in a 3-4 defense next season.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 12, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey Spring Rain, take it to a USC or a Tenn. blog. No one here really gives a sh!t.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

First?

Posted by: zizou1972 | January 12, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

the success of this 3/4 will hinge mainly on the NT (Haney?). Packers switched over last season and became a top tier defense, but the result was largely due to rookie DT BJ Raji, a beast that soaked up blockers all day. If Haney doesn't want that he could play DE and be pretty effective there as well--Haloti Ngata is basically the same build as Haney and also plays end for Baltimore, and Ngata is in on nearly every play.

Posted by: pgugino | January 12, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

spring rain - is this your first computer? try a blog that involves the volunteers. you're in the wrong league, wrong state, wrong arena. I live in nashville so come on down and let this neophyte show you how to get started. by the way, i am a bama fan,so who really gives a darn.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

"The 100 million dollar NT....brilliant."

Maybe they trade him instead.

Nobody is untradeable.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 12, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

All of u Jerry Gray haters do not even know the full story...My thought goes like this JG "interviewed" with VC right and maybe Dan. The interview was over a long lunch where they asked him what he would do as redskins coach at the end of the meal he was asked "how did you enjoy his interview for HC" huh? yeah we just interviewed you wink wink so when Fritz Pollard calls u tell em u loved it! C that 's the type of BS catch 22 I am JGray is in when asked the question!! but y'all are too lost to c it!

Posted by: Skins21-4everSmashmouth | January 12, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Carter(Jarmon)/Hayney(Griff, Golston)/Daniels(Golston, Orakpo)

McIntosh, Fletcher, Blades, Orakpo(Wilson)

Any variations thereof?


Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget LoAlexander at DE. And we will have to see if AMontgomery at 6'6" 330# might be able to play at DT in 3 -4.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

two more FS declare for draft
Morgan Burnett GT
Major Wright UF

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I cringe at the thought of signing Merriman due to his chronic injuries. He's only 26 but he's got a LOT of miles for that age. Between him and Haney, that's too much volatile personality on one side of the ball.

Posted by: pgugino | January 12, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

ONE MORE THING: AL DAVIS, NOW THAT THE NARCISSISTIC LYING 'TARD IS BACK ON YOUR TURF, CALL HIS A$$ OUT AGAIN! REMIND PEOPLE OF WHY YOU FIRED HIS SORRY A $$ IN THE FIRST PLACE! ALL THIS NEGATIVE VIBE THAT SELF-ABSORBED PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING IS DRAGGING AROUND WITH HIM IS GOING TO COME HOME TO ROOST-SOONER, RATHER THAN LATER-AND I STRONGLY SUSPECT THAT THE NCAA POWERS TO BE ARE TAKING A VERY VERY DIM VIEW OF THIS NUTCASE KIFFIN!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget LoAlexander at DE. And we will have to see if AMontgomery at 6'6" 330# might be able to play at DT in 3 -4.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 11:07 PM |

Good call. One man gang at DE and for Pres.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm no coach, but Haynesworth doesn't fit the mold of a nose tackle (he COULD do it, but he freelances too much) and Orakpo and Carter seem too small to play linebacker or end in a 3-4. I'm hoping that they are going to stick to a 4-3 (and be more aggressive) or that I know a lot less about the 3-4 than I thought.

Posted by: mhaslup | January 12, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo and Carter seem too small to play linebacker or end in a 3-4. I'm hoping that they are going to stick to a 4-3 (and be more aggressive) or that I know a lot less about the 3-4 than I thought.

Posted by: mhaslup | January 12, 2010 11:11 PM |

Orakpo and Carter may be too small to play DE in a 3-4 but certainly not LB. They are a good size for that. Having said that, Carter didn't work out too well at LB in San Fran. He is strong as a horse though.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 12, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

We don't have the backers for a 3-4. Hell, we don't even have enough backers to let O-SACKPO play exclusively at DE. Disaster in the making.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 12, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Well, our first pick has to be G. McCOY then.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 12, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

So NOT HAPPY about this. I've never been impressed with Haslett. And not impressed with our all white coaching staff.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Uh,oh, racist, racist. I'm telling.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 12, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-4_defense

This wiki page has a good break down of the 3-4 and the type of athletes that are best suited for the positions. It helped me mentally analyze our roster... biggest needs are BIG DE's.... Phil Daniels is prototypical. And IF we could get a Stud NT (Wilfork?) we could shift AH to DE.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

yeah! where are the Asians on Shanahan's staff?

Posted by: jyshim | January 12, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, where are the American Indians on this staff.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 12, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

we could shift AH to DE.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Or shift him to another team for picks. That 41 million has already been earned.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 12, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

this sounds like it's going to be an extra large draft this year. gonna be a lot of walk ons. hope skins can get some good prospects.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

3-4 is great and all that but Haslett sucks

Posted by: wattsicon | January 12, 2010 9:46 PM


Would you prefer Dick LeBeau? I wonder what he did outside Pittsburgh.........

Cincinnati Bengals (DC)
1984 - 13th (they were 1st in 1983)
1985 - 22nd
1986 - 20th
1987 - 20th
1988 - 17th
1989 - 15th
1990 - 25th
1991 - 28th (last place) - then fired.

Cincinnati Bengals (DC)
1997 - 28th
1998 - 28th
1999 - 25th
2000 - 22nd
2001 - 22nd
2002 - 17th


Haslett is a fine hire, and runs VERY good defenses when he has decent personnel

Posted by: PCinOz | January 12, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

This is a good hire.

Haslett, will prove to be a solid choice as the D-coordinator.


Posted by: dashriprock | January 12, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

I MEAN, THE LITTLE P SSANT KIFFIN PULLS OUT 4 WEEKS BEFORE THE RECRUITS SIGNED-THEY'RE ALL WITHDRAWING-THEY INTENDED TO PLAY FOR THE KIFFINS AND ORGERON, THE RC, AND HE'S GOING TOO.

HOW COULD ANY HUMAN BEING DO SOMETHING SO SHADY AS THAT? TO COMPLETELY WRECK A NEW PROGRAM, AFTER ALL HIS BS HYPE-HOW COULD ANY HUMAN BEING LIVE WITH THEMSELVES AFTER DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

MONTY KIFFIN, YOU DID A HELL OF A JOB WITH YOUR SON-HE TURNED INTO A COMPLETE CHARACTER-LESS PIECE OF DOG S--T-NOTHING BUT A FLASH IN THE PAN-FULL OF LIES AND BS-BEYOND PATHETIC!


Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

where are the little green er blue er purple er violet, er orange people for our coach hunt??????

talk about idiocy, but what do you expect when we gonna just line up for some of obama's stash.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Is Spurrier going to help Haze-let move his cot into the office?

Posted by: rooster75 | January 12, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I like this bunch so far. Texans had the number one receiver and number two QB, when was the last time we saw anything like that around here? (I mean on OUR team.)

Posted by: kls1 | January 12, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Nothing i HATE more than negative DEADskins cycnics.......Only thing relevant here is that woeful STIFF Blache is GONE !!!!!!

Posted by: FletcherChristian1 | January 12, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

like this bunch so far. Texans had the number one receiver and number two QB, when was the last time we saw anything like that around here? (I mean on OUR team.)

Posted by: kls1 | January 12, 2010 11:33 PM |

but look what he had to work with in houston and look what he has to work with here. apples to oranges.

i just hope we get to where we can compete with other teams on the offensive side of the ball instead of just being offensive.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

whats with the haslett sucks crowd? reasons?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 12, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse
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Cause he's a GINGER! LOL

Seriously... He did well in NO, his defenses were good... Didn't they sack Ramsey like 7 times when the Ol' Ball Coach was in charge & he was coach? Yeah, I remember his attacking style...

Come on, In Shanahan we TRUST! If these are his guys, has to be a good reason. I was worried about slowik being the DC, so this is a huge upgrade over that possible situation.

Posted by: tony325 | January 12, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

YOU KNOW, THE ORANGE NATION-THE GREATEST FANS IN THE WORLD REALLY TOOK THIS LITTLE LYING PUNK BS ARTIST INTO THEIR HEARTS- THEY BELIEVED IN HIM, PEOPLE LOVED HIS FRESH APPROACH-THEY WERE WILLING TO OVERLOOK SO MANY NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT HIS NO-CHARACTER CHARACTER!

AND NOW WE SEE, AL DAVIS HAD IT RIGHT ALL ALONG! MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD TRUSTED A LYING SACK OF HORSE S--T TO BRING VOLS TO GLORY, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF VOLS BOUGHT HIS T-SHIRTS

BEGONE-YOU STRAIGHT UP LYING LITTLE DIRT BAG KIFFIN! YOU WILL NOT FLOURISH AT YOUR ALMA MATER-NOOOOOOO-I PREDICT VERY BAD KARMA FOR YOU-VERY BAD!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

(1) In a 3-4, the NT doesn't have to simply be a space eater. Reference Dallas' defense, which features its second most important defensive cog, Jay Ratliff, as the NT. The past two seasons he's had 7.5 and 6.0 sacks. Haynesworth could easily play that role, and play it very well.

(2) Skins have far more 3-4 LB candidates than 4-3 LB candidates. That's why the Skins were stuck plugging OLB holes with converted DEs. In the 3-4, these converted DEs mesh much more seamlessly (think Elvis Dumervil in Denver). Orakpo and Chris Wilson fit this mold perfectly, and Andre Carter wouldn't be too far behind, especially in a hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense where he could rotate.

The biggest question is where the 3-4 DEs would come from. If another NT prospect was brought in, Haynesworth could easily shift to one side. Lo' Alexander fits the build of a 3-4 DE to perfection. As does Philip Daniels. Daniels may retire, however, and if he does, it leaves the front 3 very thin. Other guys? Golston, Monty, Jarmon, Jackson? Not sure where and how these guys would fit, though I have little doubt Golston and Jarmon could thrive in either scheme eventually.

A little movement here and there, though, and this team easily fulfills the necessary personnel groupings for the 3-4. I'm excited for the prospect of it.

Posted by: psps23 | January 12, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm still skeptical that we'll see a full-up switch to a 3-4 this year. You need more than one NT, perhaps even three if AH can't give you 16 games, and we're much thinner at LB than we'd need to be.

Posted by: daggar | January 12, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

AL DAVIS, IT CHOKES ME TO SAY THIS-BUT...I SALUTE YOU TONIGHT! I SALUTE YOU FOR CALLING OUT THE KIFFIN-YOU KNEW HE WAS A LIAR OF LIARS, AND YOU LET THE WORLD KNOW, AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST BEING YOUR USUAL CROTCHETY SELF-BUT NO, YOU WERE TELLING THE STRAIGHT UP TRUTH! ABOUT THIS SHADY LITTLE NO-GOOD FLIM FLAM CON ARTIST, WEREN'T YOU? SO I WILL NEVER SAY ANOTHER NEGATIVE THING EVER ABOUT YOU-EVEN IF I THINK IT-BECAUSE YOU TURNED OUT TO BE THE SAGACIOUS ONE HERE, NOW DIDN'T YOU?

VOLS THANK YOU FOR TELLING IT LIKE IT IS ABOUT THIS SLIMY SLUG CON ARTIST KIFFIN!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 12, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

there is no way Fletcher is here next year. He is absolutely too small, imo. Sort of like Zack Thomas for the cowboys last year. Just didn't fit.

Posted by: overzealous08 | January 13, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

no problem with Haslett

he seems qualified for the position.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 13, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Spring_Rain: well played, sir, well played.

But there's too much wit in your tirades.

Is that you, Nate?

RomoLongBalls? (a name that is surprisingly fun to type)

Noone?

Posted by: farstriker | January 13, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Well hot dang skippy
Vols got a new coach
and his name is Kippy!
Yeeeeee Hawwwwwwww

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 13, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Spring_Rain, shout that noise in a moonshine jug. No one cares up here.

Posted by: mack1 | January 13, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

WE HEAR THE POLICE ARE ALL OVER CAMPUS-THE PLAYERS ARE RIOTING-BURNING THEIR MATTRESSES OUT IN FRONT OF GIBBS HALL-THE PLAYERS DORM.

PEYTON-DO YOUR FAITHFUL PROUD-CALL OUT THE KIFFIN-CALL HIS SORRY LITTLE CON ARTIST A$$ OUT PUBLICLY FOR WHAT HE'S DONE TO YOUR TEAM-WE KNOW YOU WILL NOT TAKE THIS LYING DOWN-NO, WE KNOW THIS-YOU WILL DO SOMETHING-PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY


ERNIE GRUNFELD-GEN. MGR. OF THE WIZARDS-YOU DO THE SAME! CALL OUT THE KIFFIN FOR WHAT HE'S DONE TO OUR OWN-WE'LL NOT TAKE THIS LYING DOWN-NO NO!-WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS SORRY LYIN' A- HOLE, THIS PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING PAY FOR THIS CATASTROPHE!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

We will get some tweeners and make it happen. I don't see what the fuss is about. It's not about the coaches as much as it is about the personnel. If you have personnel you can make things happen. A good coach can be a great coach if he has the personnel. It's not just that, it's about off-season training and prep. It's about taking control of a team instead of having a team push you around. It's about having a year off and using that time to put together the kind of staff you want and then coming back to the league and making it happen. It's about having time off to look at coaches, players and draftees and knowing what direction you want to go. Mike has had that time and has done his homework well in advance. Don't think for one minute that he was not planning and plotting all this while he was gone.

Hail!!!

Posted by: ajb1094 | January 13, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

POSTED AT 7:38PM ON THE LA TIMES WEBSITE, MEANING JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO:

January 12, 2010 | 7:38 pm

How excited are Lane Kiffin, Ed Orgeron and Monte Kiffin about coming back to the Trojans?

USC football admistrative advisor Terrel Ray said Tuesday night that Orgeron is already in USC's football offices tonight, reviewing film and "already getting to work."

-- Lance Pugmire

EFF YOU ALL!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

FROM THE NY TIMES, 12:38AM:

"Knoxville fire officials and university police were on campus after Kiffin's announcement as students burned mattresses and gathered around the athletic department building in hopes of blocking Kiffin from leaving campus. It was not clear if Kiffin was still on campus at the time.

''I think the students have had kind of a violent reaction to that, and a lot of them are disheartened, upset and feel betrayed that less than a year in that he would be leaving and taking off,'' Knoxville Fire Department spokesman D.J. Corcoran said.

''The Rock,'' a giant boulder on campus where students often paint ''Happy Birthday'' messages, had obscenities directed toward Kiffin. Students tried to enter the room where Kiffin read his statement, holding a sign that read ''Go home traitor. It's time,'' mimicking a campaign the university used to promote Kiffin when he was hired. But the students were turned back before Kiffin talked.

Kiffin certainly didn't sound ready to leave after Tennessee's season ended with a loss to Virginia Tech in the Chick-fil-A Bowl, saying the Vols were ''just getting started'' -- but the Trojans didn't have a vacancy then.

Kiffin owed an $800,000 buyout to Tennessee for leaving early. He told his players about his abrupt departure moments before reading his statement"


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YOU SORRY LYIN' LITTLE SOB, TO TREAT YOUR PLAYERS LIKE THAT! I HOPE VOL FANS ARE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW! READY TO BURN YOUR A$$ AS YOU SKULK OUT OF TOWN-YOU'RE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE-EFF YOU FOREVER!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Maybe now you bamas up here can take me and any other dude up here that's been hollerin' about the 3-4 seriously now.

SHOUT OUTS TO mistamoe and alex####!!!!

I've always said that the 'Skins have the personnel to run it, and now that we got Moneysworth and Sackpo, we're can most DEFINETLY run a 3-4.

And this bama Chris Wilson was made to play in a 3-4.

Oh and, if the Panthers don't sign or franchise Julius Peppers, he's said before that he'd like to play in a 3-4... don't know how much bread he'd be asking for though...

Although I'd like to see a 3-4/4-3/4-6 hybrid. It's not like we sucked in the 4-3 last year, well for the most part anyway. So I hope they use at least two of the three mentioned formations on defense.

Although Carter didn't like playing in a 3-4 in San Fran, I think here we'd ask him to assume the "Ware" role and go get the QB and stop the run -- and also ask the same from Orakpo. And before you all say "you can't have them doing both" that is where the 4-6 set comes into play.

* And you all taking shots at Lisa, chill the f_ck out!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 13, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

shout outs to this dude spring_rain for murdering the blog...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 13, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

i am glad the skins are pushing the recycling them by going for old geezers like me. will darrell green be coming back next? you really don't have to be 50+ to be a successful nfl coordinator or head coach. i am a proud aarp member, but this is getting ridiculous-a one playoff win guy who brings along his son the no playoff win guy and an expansion league coach.

Posted by: george32 | January 13, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

(2) Skins have far more 3-4 LB candidates than 4-3 LB candidates. That's why the Skins were stuck plugging OLB holes with converted DEs. In the 3-4, these converted DEs mesh much more seamlessly (think Elvis Dumervil in Denver). Orakpo and Chris Wilson fit this mold perfectly, and Andre Carter wouldn't be too far behind, especially in a hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense where he could rotate.


Posted by: psps23 | January 12, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter played the 3-4 in San Fran and damn-near fell off the face of the earth before the 'Skins signed him in 2006. He's a 4-3 DE, plain and simple.

Posted by: coachtanahan | January 13, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

this whole thing,shanny and these hires,just dont feel right.its like,hey guys,lets go to d.c.and get PAID!shanny was fired from his last job,and it seems like hasslet has been everydam where.it seems to me like this good ole boy-retreading network is played out.there are probably some good,YOUNG,assistants out there who'd make good head coaches.(oh,and lets not forget that little kyle shanny is coming to run the offense)this smells like a big recipe for disaster,so skin fans be ready for more of the same-ole same-ole.the same old soup,warmed over!i hope that im wrong,but i dont think so.

Posted by: billydee123 | January 13, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Brace yourself fellow Skins fans this team may be much better than we expect without much overhaul to the roster but by addition to the coaching staff.

Posted by: robbkels | January 12, 2010 10:18 PM
I hope you're right. I kinda got tired of hearing the resignation of having Rogers and Landry constantly biting on double moves, leading to long TD passes. I kept thinking, isn't that kind of the coaches job, to tell them to STOP biting on all of those double moves?

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 13, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

FURTHER FROM THE NY TIMES:

"Kiffin returns to USC with the school facing a yearslong NCAA investigation over events during his tenure as an assistant, including Reggie Bush's final years at the school. While no discipline has been handed down, it's widely expected to arrive later this year."

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OH, LIAR KIFFIN-YOU BRING BAD BAD BAD NEWS BAD VIBES WITH YOU WHEREVER YOU GO-WHEREVER YOU GO! USC IS GOING TO REGRET THE DAY YOU CAME BACK-CAUSE THAT SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE IN DEEP S--T NCAA VIOLATIONS FOR YEARS TO COME! HA HA HA! I MEAN, A LIAR AND A CON ARTIST LIKE KIFFIN CAN'T HELP HIMSELF-IT'S HIS NATURAL WAY TO BE AN IMMORAL SOB!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

I don't like this signing. I'm not crazy about Haslett's track record and our personnel aren't well suited to the 3-4. Whose going to play DE? I guess our current DT's because our current DE's (not counting Daniels who I'm assuming will be gone) are undersized for the 4-3, let alone the 3-4. What happens with Carter? Seems like a bad fit.

Posted by: FITS | January 13, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

HEY BIG TUFF KIFFIN! HEARD YOU WERE BLOCKED TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE PARKING LOT THERE AFTER YOU SCREWED OVER THESE YOUNG PLAYERS LIVES-TELLING THEM YOU WERE LEAVING 5 MINUTES BEFORE YOU MADE A 2 MIN. EXIT SPEECH-YOU CLASSLESS PIECE OF S--T!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 1:36 AM | Report abuse

As I indicated earlier, Shanahan is about competence, and Haslett is competent.
It's a bit boring.

I can see Shanahan thinking that he has a lot on his plate and he can give the defense to Haslett and know he will get professional results, and possibly inspired results. Shanahan doesn't need to train Bruce Allen or Jim Haslett on how to do their jobs.

While this hire is intended to comfort the HC, I'm also hoping its intended to make the players uncomfortable. Because there are several guys that need a fire lit under them.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 13, 2010 1:46 AM | Report abuse

PEYTON- I KNOW YOU'LL DO SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING TO CUT THAT LITTLE D--KFACE DOWN TO SIZE! YOU WILL SLICE HIM AND DICE HIM, AFTER YOU WIN THE SUPER BOWL-YES PEYTON-INSTEAD OF SAYING "I'M GOING TO DISNEY WORLD" PEYTON, MVP AND SUPER BOWL CHAMP WILL GO TO THE MICROPHONES AND SAY:

"AND EFF YOU LANE KIFFIN, YOU PATHETIC LYING TRAITOR-DOG, FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THE VOLS AND THE ORANGE NATION!"

YES, PEYTON, WE KNOW YOU WILL! AND WE WILL LOVE YOU EVEN MORE FOR TELLING THE TRUTH TO THE ENTIRE PLANET ABOUT THAT NO-GOOD A-HOLE!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Haslett brings up memories of Pat Swilling, Sam Mills, Ricky Jackson, and a great defense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse


Loved those cats. Such great tempo.


Oh, and F-Dallas.


Oh, and F-Dallas.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | January 13, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

OH AND EFF SO-CAL TOO!

OOPS! FORGOT! SO'CAL'S ALREADY EFFED! EVEN BEFORE THE TRAITOR TURD KIFFIN RETURNS TO WREAK MORE HAVOC IN THE SYSTEM!

WELL, YOU DESERVE YOUR NOTHING BUT TROUBLE DCKHEAD- KIFFIN, SO-CAL, WITH THE ORANGE NATION'S COMPLIMENTS!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 2:28 AM | Report abuse

One standout NT at the college level is Terrance Cody, the 350-lb All-American senior from Alabama who will enter the 2010 NFL Draft.

Sounds like AH qualifies to play NT. OR, sign Wilfork and move AH to DE... off the chain.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

Nice Post. Sounds kinda familiar, glad to see we're on the sajme page.

As I posted 1/7/10 in response to GA 8085

Among defensive line men there are guys who run roughshod going to disrupt the backfield or pass rush and those who "play the piano,"--cover their own area and the guy who vacated his to go after the passer. His numbers usually aren't glamorous, but they are valuable.

Daniels did that this year with one bicep.

At the college level the 6'5" 365 pound nose tackle for Alabama is a piano player. Few sacks (one, I think) few tackles, but he ties up everything inside. In certain schemes he's better than Suh. Ideally, the two of them would be great together.

You suggest replacing PD with Orakpo or Jarmon--and I agree--on passing downs. But neither of them are stout enough yet to hold against the run in the NFC East. I think Jarmon will grow into that role in a year or two, but not yet. Keep PD for another year to mentor them, and get Jarmon to add 20 pounds of muscle.

Posted by: TheCork | January 13, 2010 2:29 AM | Report abuse

OH AND EFF SO-CAL TOO!

OOPS! FORGOT! SO'CAL'S ALREADY EFFED! EVEN BEFORE THE TRAITOR TURD KIFFIN RETURNS TO WREAK MORE HAVOC IN THE SYSTEM!

WELL, YOU DESERVE YOUR NOTHING BUT TROUBLE DCKHEAD- KIFFIN, SO-CAL, WITH THE ORANGE NATION'S COMPLIMENTS!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | January 13, 2010 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Cool. Right on, bro. Except...I'm a Tarheel. Couldn't care less about USC, Kiffin, maps, and such as.

Cheers!

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | January 13, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

yeah! where are the Asians on Shanahan's staff?

Posted by: jyshim | January 12, 2010 10:02 PM

Stan Kwan was just fired by the Lions...there's your special teams coach if you want him.

Seriously, what the f*ck difference does it make what color a coach is? I don't give a sh*t if he's black, white, purple or green. If he can get the Skins back to prominence, I'm for it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 13, 2010 5:35 AM | Report abuse

Not sure how I feel about the defensive moves; Haslett has been up-and-down at best as a D-coordinator, but on the flip side he really only had players to work with in Pittsburgh. Personally, I think he's a better HC than DC, but that's just my opinion.

As for switching to a 3-4...not really in favor of that right now. The defense is the only thing that can keep this team even remotely competitive in 2010 and trying to make that change immediately would backfire. That said, I think there are definitely some pieces here that would translate to a 3-4; Orakpo would be a GREAT OLB in that defense and Carter has played LB in a 3-4 in San Fran. Haynesworth and Griffin would probably make good 3-4 DEs and I've always thought that Wynn and Daniels (if they're still here in 2010) fit better as DEs in that scheme anyway. But without a NT and two solid inside LBs, this defense would be a mess and it's better to just try a 4-3/3-4 hybrid (kinda like what Baltimore did under Rex Ryan) to keep teams guessing.

Just a thought.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 13, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

So NOT HAPPY about this. I've never been impressed with Haslett. And not impressed with our all white coaching staff.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 9:54 PM

Seriously, what the f*ck difference does it make what color a coach is? I don't give a sh*t if he's black, white, purple or green. If he can get the Skins back to prominence, I'm for it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 13, 2010 5:35 AM

Brownwood,

Right question, but wrong post. I think Shim was responding to what Lisa posted earlier. Which green or purple coaches did you have in mind? Dennis Green? He's certainly colorful, but maybe he's been out of the game too long.

Posted by: League-Source | January 13, 2010 6:02 AM | Report abuse

LS, I answered jyshim's question and then jumped to Lisa's idiotic post. I probably shoulda directed the 2nd paragraph to her.

What do you think about the 3-4 switch?

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 13, 2010 6:12 AM | Report abuse

I'll tell you what I think, if Haslett think he has the players for it then fine, if he doesn't then he will run a 4-3.

This team was 4-12 and the defense couldn't stop anyone when it counted, so let's not act like we don't need some change.

Haslett had terrible personell in NO and with the Rams, he will be good here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 13, 2010 6:19 AM | Report abuse

What do you think about the 3-4 switch?

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 13, 2010 6:12 AM

You know, I don't have an opinion. I don't think we have the personnel for it, but Shanahan's going to rebuild the team so there will be a lot of turnover anyway. May as well acquire the guys that fit the scheme he wants.

At this point I am so dazzled by what I've read about Shanahan that I assume he's doing the best thing. I could change my mind if he runs that swinging gate fake punt that put Washington on the map.

Posted by: League-Source | January 13, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse

We really can't say a 3-4 wont work until we see who they pick up in FA and the draft. There are some big NT out there that can be had in FA, I think it could work fine with the right players. Shanny and Haslett are pretty smart so I'm sure they wont force a switch to a sceme if the players arn't there.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 13, 2010 6:22 AM | Report abuse

At this point I am so dazzled by what I've read about Shanahan that I assume he's doing the best thing. I could change my mind if he runs that swinging gate fake punt that put Washington on the map.

Posted by: League-Source | January 13, 2010 6:21 AM |

I tried to run that in Madden couldn't do it, maybe they will add it in next years version.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 13, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

This team was 4-12 and the defense couldn't stop anyone when it counted, so let's not act like we don't need some change.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 13, 2010 6:19 AM


I agree with that only partially...this D was still in the top 10, so it's not like a massive overhaul is needed. I think they need to make sweeping changes to the coaching staff and the roster, not necessarily to the entire defensive scheme.

Here's hoping that Haslett can git'er done either way.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 13, 2010 6:51 AM | Report abuse

I tried to run that in Madden couldn't do it, maybe they will add it in next years version.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 13, 2010 6:24 AM


I hope to God they don't.

I would, however, like to see them bring back laterals. Seems like Ed Reed refuses to make a pick without trying to toss it back to someone or score with it himself. I don't think I've ever seen the dude just go down after an INT.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 13, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey Lisa,

Not a real big fan of our almost all black secondary (save for Doughty) - you need to take that race sh*t out of here; we are talking football and no one gives a damn whether you like the color of the "staff" or not?? How'd Blatche and Gray do over the past couple of years?? Yeah, I know they finished top ten.....that's in yards - who gives a CRAP about yards?? Get me some turnovers, sacks...you know...IMPACT PLAYS!!!!! We've had NONE of those.

Posted by: DEskinzfan | January 13, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Anyone have Spring_Rain email address?

Sincerely,
Lane Kiffin

Posted by: HTTR | January 13, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

A 3-4 defense has interesting possibilities. I think the DLine in a 3-4 would consist of Carter, Haynesworth and Daniels. Haynesworth would probably move to DE in passing situations. Orakpo would be a better LB in this system than in a 4-3. They may need to pick up an inside LB to work beside Fletcher. Not so sure Blades can be the only other ILB. I hope that Haslett can mold his defenders into the players he needs. I have no worries about the secondary.

Posted by: midniterc | January 13, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I think this hiring is a wait and see. In Pittsburgh, Haslett had LB's Kirkland, Lloyd and Greene and it worked. The main thing here is we need someone who is going to instill discipline in the secondary. That's where our biggest weakness is. At linebacker we are okay and line we are fair. Our secondary is terrible!

Posted by: tryumpfant | January 13, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Carter CAME from a 3-4 system when we got him. Orakpo will get even more sacks in that type of system.

Does anyone remember Spurrier making fun of Haslett for working so hard before they played? Then Haslett beat him?

We will have a very hard working staff. It's about time. Players follow that. Great signing

Posted by: Mike4169 | January 13, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Another bad move for the Redskins.

Posted by: bonggong | January 13, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

You know the best thing about this hire? - It's that the COACH has actually picked his own coordinators & coaches, rather than Snyder & his former flunky Cerrato doing it ... Next to Snyder selling the team (which ain't gonna happen) it's the greatest gift Danny could give us : handing the reins to real professional football people & letting them make the football decisions (regardless of how much nitpicking all us whiners do about those decisions )... If it took this wheels-fall-off disaster of this season to finally push Snyder to do the right thing , we'll all look back at '09 and be glad for it ....

Posted by: RoidRage | January 13, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

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