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Redskins Hold on for First Win

With the Rams threatening to take the lead early in the fourth quarter -- they had a first down on the Redskins' 15 -- Washington came up with the biggest defensive play of the game.

On third and four from the Washington 9, Marc Bulger found receiver Donnie Avery on the right side. Avery made a move at the 5 in an attempt to get more yardage, but Redskins safety Chris Horton jarred the ball loose. Cornerback Carlos Rogers recovered, and the Redskins were spared. Washington, however, punted three plays later -- Jason Campbell was fortunate he wasn't sacked for a safety on the second-down play. The Rams, provided another chance, couldn't manage a first down, and the Redskins' chance to run out the clock came from their own 20 with 9:15 remaining.

Washington, using a 25-yard screen play to Ladell Betts and a 16-yard hook-up between Campbell and Malcolm Kelly, moved the ball all the way to the St. Louis 20. There, the Redskins faced fourth and one with 3:47 remaining. Zorn called time out, and elected to go for it, eschewing a field goal that might have put Washington up 12-7. The gamble worked; Portis charged behind Sellers over the left side for a nine-yard gain.

With a first down at the 11, Betts carried twice and Portis once, setting up another fourth down, this one at the 2. Portis took a deep handoff and was strung out, giving the Rams another chance with 1:55 left at their own 4.

After a pair of incompletions -- the second blown up by cornerback Carlos Rogers's hit on Avery -- defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth batted down Bulger's third-down pass.

On fourth down, Bulger heaved one deep down the right side for Avery, but Horton was there, breaking it up with 1:32 remaining. That gave the Redskins first and goal from the Rams' 4, but all Campbell had to do was kneel on the ball, and the Redskins had their narrow victory.

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By Barry Svrluga  |  September 20, 2009; 3:43 PM ET
 
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Comments

bmitch is laying it on zorny!!!

Posted by: dealer1 | September 20, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I like the 4th down call to go for it..

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 20, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

why is a raven on my team's post game?

Posted by: dealer1 | September 20, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

JC played well. Skins dropped 2 TD passes from him, (Mike Sellers, and Devin Thomas) both in the first half. The overall game was ugly but I would rather win ugly than win pretty. Definitely scratching my head on some play calls, but I think they will work it out next week.

Posted by: gcoles32 | September 20, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I can't remember the last time I heard loud boooooo-ing of the Redskins at FedEx... Anyone?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | September 20, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I really don't mind Zorn's play calling today... couple of Series are questionable but today, it was the players that didn't win the game...

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 20, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I like the 4th down call to go for it..
======================================

So did I. They had no timeouts, take over in the shadow of their own goal posts.

I didn't like some of the other calls, though. Zorn is going to have to realize his o.l. isn't that good.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 20, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

If anyone still defends Jim Zorn after this, they should shoot themselves.

Redskins should have just lost this game so they have a better draft pick for Shanahan / Holmgren next year

Posted by: mmz114 | September 20, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell moved the ball up and down the field all day long, but now some play calls have to come together and we have to start punching those in for TDs. But I will take the win. 1-1 is much better than 0-2 and I still think the skins will work it out next week.

Posted by: gcoles32 | September 20, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

If anyone still defends Jim Zorn after this, they should shoot themselves.

Redskins should have just lost this game so they have a better draft pick for Shanahan / Holmgren next year

Posted by: mmz114 | September 20, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

that was a horrible game, our offense is pathetic, and Zorn is an idiot. There is absolutely no defense for not kicking that FG. Giving them the ball back with 2 minutes only needing a FG to win, we are lucky our defense is good and that we were playing the Rams. That was just plan stupid.

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 20, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

What I don't understand is that this offense has been bad for YEARS, even under Gibbs. I really don't know what the problem is.

I think we have some talent, I don't think Zorn is maximizing his talent on this team

Posted by: rickyroge | September 20, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

With our Skins, you take a win ANY way you can get it, against ANYONE! Hail! Let's edge the Lions next week!

Posted by: sparky0488 | September 20, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs offense at its worse still better than Zorn's at his best

Posted by: mmz114 | September 20, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

time for the HC, OC, & QB Coaches to go! that's like two people, ain't it?

Posted by: mdrockjock | September 20, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is cool... But is playcalling is horrible... He needs to go home and play Madden.. and learn how to call plays....

Posted by: cocodc1 | September 20, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

We are thin on the offensive line, but THINNER YET at quarterback. I hope I am not the only one hoping that Jason slips on a bar of soap this week. Jason ol' man, you couldn't hit a bull in the but with a bass. You have the recvrs...you don't have the accuracy. Throwing long requires touch...and as such I declare you ain't got what it takes. Even your short throws are LATE. Question is..What does coach do now? Does he have someone put your lights out in practice in order to put Todd Collins in? I think that is his biggest decision this week.

Posted by: Blueslegend | September 20, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

?

Posted by: WHOSTHENEXTHEADCOACH | September 20, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Better:

Play Calling
D-line pressure
Campbell under 20 yards

Still awful:

Secondary

Surprisingly terrible and very concerning:

Red zone offense
Campbell deep passes

Posted by: rexforab | September 20, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Redskins still suck and can’t score points, so what is really the issue? Coach does not trust JC it seems and I understand why... He sucks and cannot make big plays down the field because he holds onto the ball too long. And the coach, well he sucks also and calls stupid plays. Also the wide outs are below average and cannot get open more often against a horrible teams (Well JC sucks so can’t blame them). So when will the stupid owner hire a real GM with a head coach with his own coaching staff and not be involved in football personnel / operations? Not in my lifetime it seems. So why don’t fans just boycott buying merchandise or going to games until the owner wakes up, I did like 6 years ago…The other local team, the Ravens have a well run organization and are much more competitive than the skins…

Sorry for my rant, but the skins suck even though a win…Hell rookie or 2nd year QB’s make better plays than JC has ever had his career….

Posted by: rb_rivers | September 20, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Mitch is BLASTING JZ. He's saying JZ play calling is the problem.

Posted by: TWISI |


I couldn't agree with B Mitch more. I mean you have Kelly and you don't try to throw him the ball in the red zone once.

Posted by: jm220 | September 20, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

WHAT CHANNEL'S B MITCH ON?

Posted by: sugarstreet | September 20, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I can't stand the attitude "we will take the win". Give me a big break. There were Skins all happy on the sideline after the win. Are you kidding me?! You barely beat the sorry no account Rams on your home opener and you are happy. When will this team have any accountability and when will someone just admit on the team we are no good!

Posted by: time2speak | September 20, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

It just occured to me after reading the recap of the game above, that the BEST plays that Jason Campbell are involved in are the ones when he is asked to KNEEL DOWN. Trouble is, he isn't called to do those enough, mostly due to his other inabilities as a quarterback.

Posted by: Blueslegend | September 20, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

zorn will get better as a play caller - he leans to heavily on portis. should spend all his time at DE

Posted by: coparker5 | September 20, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I like the 4th down call, too, but quick, someone tell me -- what's the shortest distance between two points?

I seem to recall it being a straight line.

I would really like to know what Jim Zorn sees that I don't, because I'm practically banging my head against the wall trying to figure out his play calling. And obviously not just on the 4th down play.

Trying to run three times in a row in a long goal-to-go situation? Seriously?

An ugly win is still a win. But I think this is the first time I've ever been disgusted at a win.

Game ball to Shaun Suisham. (Did I just write that?)

Posted by: freakzilla | September 20, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

orakpo

Posted by: coparker5 | September 20, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

A win's a win. I'll take it for now and start complaining on Monday.

Posted by: jiacinto | September 20, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins played very poorly. Zorn's play calling is downright incompetent. Opting to go for a touchdown rather than sealing the game with a field goal is monumentally bone-headed. So is a hurry-up offense in the middle of a game.

Plays like the one on which Stephon Heyer didn't get out of his stance or Campbell, Sellers, and Portis miscued on a hand-off or the late hit on Bolger that negated a Rams' fumble are the very definition of third-rate. And Haynesworth, the 100 million dollar man, is a joke. The guy is winded and on the sidelines every third play or so.

Edging out one of the worst teams in the NFL is not something to celebrate. Deserve to be booed?? They deserve to be run out of town, Dan Snyder first of all. Pathetic, truly a slur on the great Redskins teams of years past.

Posted by: Bob22003 | September 20, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

No passes from you're QB to Cooley or MK in the red zone all day. A HB option pass after two ineffective runs.....just really pitiful offense all day inside the 20.....couldn't feel any worse about a win I don't think....positive though our defense is good and Haynesworth was the man today, he was dominant!

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 20, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

JZ played from the 2nd quarter on w/ a sprained ankle. When JCamp, I think it opens things for the offense.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Guys,

Please.

Brian Mitchell? Channel?

Thanks.

Posted by: sugarstreet | September 20, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Just woke and its time for work, See its more of the same "bad play calling ", we need and offensive Genius to make some smarter play calls, yes it was a win ,but just but there skins of there frail little teeth. as expected "just enough point to get by for this underachiving team being dragged down by pathetic play calling"

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | September 20, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

how is everybody blasting campbell? is it his fault they call 2 runs then an hb option pass from the 5? he moved the ball up the field just about every time they had the ball.

Posted by: nami322 | September 20, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Sonny just called out Zorn. Told him he would have changed his play. Zorn said he would have taken Sonny out the game because nothing was wrong with his play. Good for Sonny for calling him out.

Posted by: jm220 | September 20, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

JZ played from the 2nd quarter on w/ a sprained ankle. When JCamp, I think it opens things for the offense.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 4:10 PM |
Meant JC

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is cool... But is playcalling is horrible... He needs to go home and play Madden.. and learn how to call plays....

If those two sentence fragments are related, that is quite possibly the worst advice ever given on RI.

Posted by: daggar | September 20, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Comcast. 370 on RCN in the District, sugarstreet

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | September 20, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

B Mitch = Comcast Sports net... Fios 76 or HD 576

Posted by: cocodc1 | September 20, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Unless this team does a complete turnaround...Zorn is out and so is Campbell

Posted by: rickyroge | September 20, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

JZ played from the 2nd quarter on w/ a sprained ankle.

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 4:10 PM |

That explains it. You can't think clearly and make good calls with a sprained ankle. Give the guy a pass!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Guys,

Please.

Brian Mitchell? Channel?

Thanks.

Posted by: sugarstreet | September 20, 2009 4:11 PM |

Comcast Sportsnet

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Was joking Dagger.... But can he possibly get worst?????

Posted by: cocodc1 | September 20, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

How dare any of you speak ill of the team built by Dear Leader Snyder and Supreme Revolutionary Committee Chairman Cerrato. According to Larry Michaels (aka Baghdad Bob), this team is about to start rolling and should, easily, go 15-1.

I'm off to play golf with Dear Leader Snyder now. Can anyone confirm that he was 38 under par with eleven holes in one the last time he played?

Posted by: Matt23185 | September 20, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

You have Marko active and not put him in the red zone where he did really well in pre season. Zorn is just awful.

Posted by: jm220 | September 20, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

maybe Zorn owns a Domino's and does not want to give away any toppings for free

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 20, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Something to look forward to: Either Dallas or New York Ginas will lose tonight!

Something to dread: Either Dallas or New York Ginas will win tonight. Bummer.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow -- Carlos Rogers is Strawberry-Shortcake sized!
I mean, she's no amazon woman, right?


Posted by: daggar | September 20, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

A win, I'll take it even a defensive win.

Redzone play calling SUCKS big time. PENALTY: for offensive play calling

Posted by: NesbitTron | September 20, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Predictable and terrible playcalling the red zone...time after time. Any decent coach knows you have to make adjustments when running inside the 10 doesn't work. Not a single play action pass was thrown and all of the runs were to the left. With decent playcalling, the Skins are up at least 21 - 7 in the third quarter. The playcalling between the 20's worked great with the pass used to set up the run.

Can't understand Zorn's decision to go on 4th and one inside the five with 2 minutes to go. Any smart coach would rather hold a lead that requires a touchdown to win, rather than a potential FG. The Skins special teams coach Smith looked like he was going to have a heart attack the first time that Zorn went on 4th and one on that drive, but at least I could understand wanting to run more time off the clock.

Zorn is a minor league coach, JC is a mediocre QB, and the right side of the offensive line is weak. Montgomery was exposed big time when he had to fill in for Thomas during the game. We can only hope the Rhinehart is a better alternative a starter if needed next week.

Posted by: wizfan89 | September 20, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Hahahahha 48-22 Saints. Saints are crazy good..

Posted by: rachel216 | September 20, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

maybe Zorn owns a Domino's and does not want to give away any toppings for free

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 20, 2009 4:17 PM

After this season ends, or before, he's going to be delivering pizzas for Dominos.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 20, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding she is tall as sh#t

Posted by: cocodc1 | September 20, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

sugarstreet, if you're in VA it's channel 11 on comcast.

I told y'all about this hack ass, bama ass coach, Jim Zorn...

Sad that many of you are just now seeing it. It takes a near loss to the Rams, who'll be lucky to win two games this year for y'all to see that.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

my bad, channel 10...

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

So what's the excuse this week? Last week it was, "Its only one game stop overreacting, they're going against a great team they weren't expected to win, etc."
And for all those that predicted the Skins (including numerous sports writers) scoring over 30, shame on you..As long as Zorn is calling plays, no way no how that ever happens.

Posted by: ga8085 | September 20, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Fire. Jim. Zorn.

That is all.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 20, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Still awful:

Secondary

Posted by: rexforab | September 20, 2009 4:04 PM

The secondary was far from awful. They forced and recovered a fumble. Bulger only had 125 yds and a 77 QB ratg. What more do you want?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 20, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

NOTE TO RB RIVERS: You were probably one of those kids who had all the sports equipment but couldn't play DEAD! their's nothing wrong with Jason that a good head coach or offensive coordinator couldn't solve Zorn didn't attempt one play to Kelly in the red zone instead choosing to run the ball, had he passed the ball(the passing game was open all day) they would have scored, Sellers dropped a perfect pass that would have been a td, for the most part Jason played exceptionally well the whole game, i don't know what game you were watching, like i said you probably never played a down of organized football.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 20, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Actually I like Zorn's decision to go on 4th down. The Rams had no timeouts and the Redskins defense is still relatively good. The gamble worked. I am glad that he took a risk, admittedly knowing that it could have been fatal.

Posted by: jiacinto | September 20, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

NOTE TO RB RIVERS: You were probably one of those kids who had all the sports equipment but couldn't play DEAD! their's nothing wrong with Jason that a good head coach or offensive coordinator couldn't solve Zorn didn't attempt one play to Kelly in the red zone instead choosing to run the ball, had he passed the ball(the passing game was open all day) they would have scored, Sellers dropped a perfect pass that would have been a td, for the most part Jason played exceptionally well the whole game, i don't know what game you were watching, like i said you probably never played a down of organized football.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 20, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

NOTE TO RB RIVERS: You were probably one of those kids who had all the sports equipment but couldn't play DEAD! their's nothing wrong with Jason that a good head coach or offensive coordinator couldn't solve Zorn didn't attempt one play to Kelly in the red zone instead choosing to run the ball, had he passed the ball(the passing game was open all day) they would have scored, Sellers dropped a perfect pass that would have been a td, for the most part Jason played exceptionally well the whole game, i don't know what game you were watching, like i said you probably never played a down of organized football.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 20, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

J Campbell is the worst qb starting in this league. His brain doe's not process fast enough for the NFL. Don't waste your time with stats. They are misleading.

Posted by: skinsflorida | September 20, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Damn. I mostly avoided RI this week, because you all made me so depressed.

Now you're doing it again. See ya next week, maybe.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 20, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

What I don't understand is that this offense has been bad for YEARS, even under Gibbs. I really don't know what the problem is.

Posted by: rickyroge

I do.

Offensive talent acquisition thru the draft, or rather lack of same.

Ramsey and Campbell at QB

A series of lame WRs have been drafted (or acquired--Lloyd). One of three 2nd round receievs threatens to be real good.

FA pickup replaced Thomas at OG, not the guy specifically drafted last year as a backup, Rinehart.

I'm sure the skins have drafted some guys on offense over recent years at other slots, but can't think of anyone great except Cooley.

Posted by: TheCork | September 20, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

how is everybody blasting campbell? is it his fault they call 2 runs then an hb option pass from the 5? he moved the ball up the field just about every time they had the ball.

Posted by: nami322 | September 20, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Because the majority of people in this blog like to be angry/mad at everything. Jason Campbell moved that offense up and down the field ALL DAY long and he ran the plays that were called. Zorn just needs to call some pass plays in the redzone. CAMPBELL PLAYED WELL! Maybe at some point their might actually be some redskins fans in this blog. 1-1 start of a win streak, fix the problems in practice this week. And lets move on the Detroit next week.

Posted by: gcoles32 | September 20, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks - BM not on the radio?

Posted by: sugarstreet | September 20, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Because the majority of people in this blog like to be angry/mad at everything....

GColes32


Let me let you in on a secret, Most of us hate being angry/mad or even mad/angry and would MUCH prefer a good team with competent leadership and Brilliant front office strategy.

Posted by: TheCork | September 20, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

For solace, I went back and watched Laron's hit stopping the Eagles in week 17 when they nearly scored at the end of the game.

Truly inspirational. Shades of Sean.

Posted by: sugarstreet | September 20, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

JC needs to be coached up by someone with earned savey, not some self-described "genius" who couldn't be promoted above QB coach in the town he was a "hero"

Posted by: mdrockjock | September 20, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

gcoles32: right on. I'm wondering where all the hate for JC is coming from myself. 23/35 for 242 and 32 yards rushing? That's bad how...? Sellers hangs on to that ball and there's an extra 9 yards and a TD next to Campbell's stats.

What's bad is the red zone offense. In the red zone I blame both playcalling and execution, but more the playcalling.

Posted by: hobbes9 | September 20, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Firstly: "phew!"

Secondly: Zorn sucks!

thirdly: thank gawd for a half decent defense

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Washingto By 9 was the line-hell they only scored 9 LOL, somebody won some money !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | September 20, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

That game was to close. Jim Zorn is a very shaky play caller in the red zone. We should have scored at least 20 points today. 4 trips in the red zone and 0 touchdowns. Not very good. This defense is definitely top 5 in the league. Zorn called a timeout on that 4th down play at the end of the game and still couldn't get a 1st down. He looked very nervous during the last 5 minutes of the ballgame. How about this, throw the football on 1st and 2nd down in the red zone. Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers dropped touchdowns today.

Jason Campbell isn't the problem on offense, the problem is the play calls in the red zone. Throw to Cooley in single coverage on 1st down. Get Malcolm Kelly the ball in the red zone. We got Detroit next week and I'll be at that game. I'd rather give my money to the Lions then Dan Snyder.

Skins will be tied with the Eagles and the loser of the Giants/Cowgirls game. Big game tonight and someone will be soley in 1st place after tonight's game. Go Skins!

Posted by: trueredskinsfan | September 20, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I wish I could be sherman smith - get paid for doing nothing

Posted by: coparker5 | September 20, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Zorn blows

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

R Thomas gone for the year....

Posted by: daggar | September 20, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather give my money to the Lions then Dan Snyder.

Posted by: trueredskinsfan

at this point, i'd rather give my money to Lyndon Larouche than to Dannyboy

Posted by: mdrockjock | September 20, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Also, F the Cooley haters.....

Posted by: chrislarry | September 20, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: TWISI | September 20, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

If Zorn does not open up the RED ZONE offense, saddly this team will be at best 4-12.

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | September 20, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

rachel, why don't you renounce your damn "fanhood" already.

Good god, your woo-is-me/us, pissin and moaning, 'that-team-is-better-than-our-team' bs has reached the g-damn tipping point.

You are BY far the most negative "fan" that posts up here.

I would say your negativity is substantive, but you're quick to hop back on the bandwagon, as evident in the preseason game against Pittsburgh.

I mean, I gotta take a page out of bean's book: If they are causing you that much agony, pain, and stress, why don't you go root for another team.

Yes, the 'skins have looked crappy, the first two games, no doubt. But if they were to string a couple of W's together, you'll be right back on RI screaming how much you so love your Redskins.

I mean you're now stroking the Saints? LOL... I mean who have they beat that's for real? Carolina? The Lions? (LMAO!)

The 'skins will finish better than the Eagles this year. Eagles are vastly overrated. And the Lions are the motherfreakin' Lions....

Yeah those Saints are sooooooo motherF'n special.

Drew Brees, and that's it. You get some legit pressure from up front on Brees (which the 'skins can do), and you have average to great CB's covering the WRs, you can hold Brees in check. They have no defense, STILL, and no running game.

The Saints beat the Lions, with a rookie QB, and hell-f'n-O, they were playing the LIONS.

The Saints beat Kevin Kolb and the overrated Eagles.

rachel, "if you wanna crown em', then crown their ass"... but the Lions and Eagles are who I thought they were.

And that ain't saying much about your beloved Saints.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 20, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I like the 4th and 1 call, too. I also think the Rams are a better team this year than some of you realize. Yes, the Skins must do better in the red zone, but don't lay that at Campbells's feet -- two dropped TD passes, with the one to Sellers being particularly a groaner. That's not JC, baby.

Randy Thomas is probably gone for a long time, which is bad because of course the OL lacks depth. As a result, if the Skins do better than 8-8, I'll be surprised. Not beefing up the OL can be laid at the feet of Danny and Vinny, it appears.

Posted by: 7snider7 | September 20, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

sellers should never be on the field inside the 10 yard ling - davis should get those plays, sellers drops too many td's (and 3rd/4th down passes too)

Posted by: coparker5 | September 20, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Because the majority of people in this blog like to be angry/mad at everything....

GColes32


Let me let you in on a secret, Most of us hate being angry/mad or even mad/angry and would MUCH prefer a good team with competent leadership and Brilliant front office strategy.

Posted by: TheCork | September 20, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

TheCork of course our front office has been terrible for a while. But the majority of the anger is pointed at Jason Campbell like he is not a good qb, when his numbers are constantly better than many of the qbs in the league. My point is be happy with the win, understand there are things that have to be improved on and for goodness sake, try and SUPPORT the team for once.

Posted by: gcoles32 | September 20, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm... let's see if I'm gonna waste my time reading your garbage.... nope.. next post. what a moron... I feel bad for you that you wasted your time to write that to me. =)

Posted by: rachel216 | September 20, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I mean you're now stroking the Saints? LOL... I mean who have they beat that's for real? Carolina? The Lions? (LMAO!)

- sorry, but I have to laugh at that. And who have we've beaten that's for real? HAHAHA. I'm sorry I'm too negative for you. =)

Posted by: rachel216 | September 20, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Two radio stations. You would think that they were talking about two different games.

WTEM - fawning over the victory, stressing the positives, interviewing players and coaches asking softball questions.

WJFK - some of the harshest personal attacks on players and Zorn that I have ever heard on sports radio.

Posted by: MKadyman | September 20, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Cooley moved thr team down the field all day, with just a little help from JC.

Posted by: Xlnt | September 20, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

=( OMG THIS TEAM DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!!!! HAVEN'T SCORED 30 POINTS IN 19 GAMES AND ZORN IS PROUD OF THE OFFENSE MOVING THE BALL AGAINST A TERRIBLE DEFENSE...WE COULDN'T SCORE A TD AGAINST THIS THEM.....PLAY-CALLING STINKS...OMG IF WE ARE THE FIRST TEAM TO LOSE TO THE FREAKIN LIONS I'M GONNA FREAKIN KURK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: tc200716 | September 20, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

...what's it going to take to get Vinnie fired?

Posted by: oddjob2 | September 20, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The Good:
Zorn finally seems to understand that JC excels in the intermediate passing game.


The Bad:
Laron Landry is still taking bad angles and contributes little to our defense. Huge disappointment thus far.


The Ugly:
Zero TDs despite our multiple red zone appearances.
I thought that we drafted Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly and Fred Davis to strengthen our red zone offense?! What happened to that? Can a brother get a fade to MK12? How are you going to call a freaking RB option?

Posted by: fpickering | September 20, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Also Ugly:

Our draft day decisions. Now that Randy Thomas is out for the season, we've got no one of note to replace him. NO ONE!!!

Posted by: fpickering | September 20, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"that was a horrible game, our offense is pathetic, and Zorn is an idiot. There is absolutely no defense for not kicking that FG. Giving them the ball back with 2 minutes only needing a FG to win, we are lucky our defense is good and that we were playing the Rams. That was just plan stupid."

couldn't agree more.

And to those who still think JC is a good QB, either we watched different games or you are complete morons. Don't talk to me about his stats. Watching the dude play is embarrasing. He consistently holds on to the ball too long or freaks out and throws it away when there's little or no pressure. He consistently makes poor decisions. He has a terrible pocket presence. He has no touch on long balls. I could go on...
I have always been a JC supporter and pointed out that he had a horrible line and no receivers. Agreed that the play calling sucks and that Zorn is bush league. But Cambell is showing what he's got...and it ain't much. This isn't an either/or...both Zorn and Campbell suck. And no, we don't have any decent alternative...I doubt Collins will be much better...so basically we're screwed.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | September 20, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Note to dargregmag: Have the Redskins been competitive in the last decade? LOL wake up, did JC throw a TD, hell he almost got tackled for a safety against, what??? A horrible team LOL? Keep drinking Snyder cool aid kid, buy a JC jersey, I only own a D.Green authentic jersey a hall of Fame player. Sorry kid maybe I only like greatness not average. Guess you never saw the skins when they were great.

Watch the Ravens game…..then you can see a QB that has potential

Posted by: rb_rivers | September 20, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Gringoinmiami: Glad you saw what I did and somehow “dargregmag” thinks JC is good and called me out for some reason. JC is a backup QB at best and does not have the vision or decision making to be an above average QB. Why no throws in the red zone to wide outs...? JC and Zorn is why..

Posted by: rb_rivers | September 20, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I love how the very beginning of the article makes it sound as though it was some great game played by the almighty Redskins. They suck. The Redskins will never recapture the magic of their past
Superbowl teams. They are a complete disgrace.

Posted by: sasha_206 | September 20, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

The skins had 1st and goal 4 times today. All started outside the 5 yard line. How many times did they throw the ball on first down? NONE. There could be a clue why their red zone record is so dismal. Throw on first when outside the 5 and run the ball when inside the five.

Posted by: golfwise | September 20, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Anyone criticizing JC doesn't know anything about football. He completing almost 70% of his passes this year and had 2 potential TDs dropped. I guess he has to call plays, pass the ball, run into the end zone and catch the TD passes himself. Truth is, Skins have no big play talent and Moss is vastly overrated since he can't beat double teams.

Posted by: davidallison1 | September 20, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

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