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Redskins in compliance with Rooney Rule

As Coach Jim Zorn prepares for the final game of the regular season, the Washington Redskins have already cleared a major hurdle that would enable them to hire a new head coach at any moment. The team has complied with the NFL's Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview minority candidates for head coaching and senior front-office positions, according to John Wooten, president of the group charged with monitoring diversity hiring in the league.

Wooten said Monday that Redskins' secondary coach Jerry Gray told him he has already interviewed for Zorn's job, and that his organizaton, the Fritz Pollard Alliance, is satisfied that the team is considering him as its next head coach.

"They have done what we look for in an interview, therefore they have satisfied the Rooney Rule," Wooten said in a telephone interview. The rule, which was established in 2003, is named after Pittsburgh Steelers owner Dan Rooney, chairman of the league's diversity committee.

Now that the Fritz Pollard Alliance feels the Redskins have complied with the rule, the Redskins are free to hire a new head coach at any time. The team plays its final game Sunday at San Diego and speculation has grown that Zorn could be fired and former Denver coach Mike Shanahan could be introduced as the next head coach as early as next week.

Wooten said he spoke with Gray personally, and the Redskins' assistant coach said he had a "couple of different interviews" with team owner Daniel Snyder and that "other people were present."

Wooten said Gray was interviewed several weeks ago, when Vinny Cerrato was still the team's executive vice president of football operations. Cerrato was replaced Dec. 17 by newly-hired general manager Bruce Allen. Wooten said "the only thing I'm asking now -- and they may do this, they may not," is for Allen to also interview Gray.

Gray has declined to comment on several occasions, including early Monday morning, after the Redskins' loss to the Dallas Cowboys. He said at that time he'd address reporters Monday afternoon at Redskins Park, but a team spokesman later said Gray would not be made available until Thursday, his regularly scheduled weekly session with reporters.

By Rick Maese  |  December 28, 2009; 4:45 PM ET
 
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Pretty shabby on Snyder's part to treat Zorn this way. Just go ahead and fire him if you're going to interview other people for his job when his contract isn't expiring, especially someone on his own staff. No class at all (big surprise).

Posted by: skinsfan713 | December 28, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"couple of different interviews"...interviewed for head coach and defensive coordinator? so Shanahan's goin' be coach, jerry gray defensive coordinator...greg blache retiring

Posted by: altarkenton | December 28, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Pretty shabby on Snyder's part to treat Zorn this way. Just go ahead and fire him if you're going to interview other people for his job when his contract isn't expiring, especially someone on his own staff. No class at all (big surprise).

Posted by: skinsfan713 | December 28, 2009 5:00 PM

Seriously. This whole deal just seems slimy. Snyder had to pay Zorn either way. He should've just fired him and had Gray as the interim. Small wonder they've fallen apart the past two games and players (AH) are rocking the boat.

Posted by: skinswest | December 28, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Has there been an RI pool yet for the day that Zorn is fired. I think it would be cool to see who could get "closest to the pin"

I think everyone should pick a day and time that the announcement will be made that Zorn has been fired.

Maybe we can get one of the large sports memerobilia franchises to donate a gently used Adam Archuletta jersey.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I guess Grey did decline to comment --a weasel like him deserves to never work again in the nfl --- sure hope he destroyed his career by backstabbing his HC.

And words are not sufficient to describe the POS owner.

Posted by: bestmick1 | December 28, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I think happened.

Snyder and Shanahan have been talking for months and all parties knew he was going to be the next head coach. Snyder says, "Why should I fire Zorn if I know Shanahan's not coming mid season"? The money he would have to pay Zorn could factor in also. As far as Gray is concerned, Snyder knew he wasn't gonna hire him, even if he was the interim coach. Either Gray may be up to get a HC job soon or he may be Shanahan's D-Coordinator, which is highly unlikely.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 28, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins in compliance with 'Snyder is a Relentless Deuche' Rule"

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

With only 5 picks, the skins need to trade back and collect picks. Typically the 5th or 6th pick can net a mid 1st, 2nd, & 4th.

Possibilities...

SF: 2 1st's this year both in the mid teen's. Could be targeting DT, FS, CB

Seattle: 2 1st's. QB and plenty of other needs.

Jacksonville: Loves Tebow (and @ QB for some reason). Could get desperate, worth a call.

If no trade partner then the draft board should read:
1. OT Okung
2. OT Campbell
3. FS Eric Berry
4. RB Spiller
5. NO QBs IN FIRST


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2009 5:03 PM

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

PA, jcabana, and the other soup lovers, you guys keep beating the drum that its all everybody else's fault and JC just needs some more time and a better oline.....its meaningless, in 6 days he will have played his last game as the Redskins starter and he and Zorn can go hang out in Cleveland with the Big Show and Shanny will rebuild the oline with a bunch of smaller athletic technically sound guys who typically don't go in the top 5 anyway, with a better defense, a better collection of receivers, whatever RB he plugs in for a 1000 yards (mike bell, mike anderson, travis henry, etc.) and a young, mobile, accurate QB who will flourish in his bootleg, roll the pocket, WCO system. IMO, the question will be will Shanny ever get us a Championship, not if he will make us immediately competitive and respectable and a perennial playoff contender especially inheriting what he didn't have in Denver, a defense!

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 28, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 28, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

would please step down now? snyder does not want to pay you, can't you understand? snyder is a cheap sh-- face

Posted by: Skins2 | December 28, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Are there any veteran QBs that are in a contract year?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, a few months back I predicted that Zorn would be fired in the wee hours of January 3-4, on the plane ride back from San Diego. Book it.

I just don't think Snyder wants to amend his ownership bio to read "has fired two head coaches during the regular season." So what I'm saying is, Zorn has held onto his job several weeks longer than any logic says he deserved it, merely because Snyder fired Norv when the team was 7-6 and still vying for a playoff berth. I know, I know, I'm nuts, but this is how my mind works.

I predicted this because I think Snyder cares how he is perceived, even though we fans would tolerate just about anything from him if he could put a consistently good team on the field... and even though he could do pretty much anything at this point and most of us would continue to loathe him and resent his ownership of the team.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Florio rant in 3.... 2..... 1....

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 28, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

No points in the first half, 6-3 DC lead in the second. 47 rating to 60 for TC. Wasn't pretty, but it was better than soup as usual.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 28, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

No, it wasn't. Soup usually pulls out a QB rating above 60.1, regardless of what you think of him.

Posted by: jcabana |

It's what I think and know soup lover/excuse maker. I appologize for rating him higher I should have though. Soup busted a 46 that day. Sorry.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=291018028

Posted by: Realness1 | December 28, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"We were overwhelmed by their (Dallas') D-Line."

Jim Zorn

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Even with the addition of Haynesworth, Orakpo, and a seemingly resurgent Andre Carter, the Redskins D-Line consistently underwhelms their opponents.

This was a big game, in and of itself.

Where was the pressure on Romo?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 28, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

So who is this young mobile accurate bootleg QB in this year's draft or free agency? Bradford is a pocket passer, Claussen isn't mobile, Mallet sure the heck isn't mobile either, Pike, Tebow, and McCoy lack NFL arm strength. The only QB that fits anything close to that description is JC. I really wouldn't be surprised if Shanahan kept him.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 28, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, a few months back I predicted that Zorn would be fired in the wee hours of January 3-4, on the plane ride back from San Diego. Book it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I say he quits on the plane ride back and then jumps out mid flight, DB Cooper style.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

So who is this young mobile accurate bootleg QB in this year's draft or free agency? Bradford is a pocket passer, Claussen isn't mobile, Mallet sure the heck isn't mobile either, Pike, Tebow, and McCoy lack NFL arm strength. The only QB that fits anything close to that description is JC. I really wouldn't be surprised if Shanahan kept him.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 28, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Any interest in putting your money where your mouth is? IF JC is the week 1 starter I'll change my handle to residentidiot, if he isn't you change yours to JCjocksniffer.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 28, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

It is a good thing that you guys can watch NBC to find out what is going on with the Redskins. Unbeleivable. You really need to work on your reporting skills.

Posted by: HelloNewman1 | December 28, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Jack, in that case, we could move on to guessing how much patience Snyder will have for Shanahan if all he does is "make us immediately competitive and respectable and a perennial playoff contender."

Something tells me Snyder would not be happy with that and would find a reason after three or four Lombardi-less seasons to say buh-bye to Shanny -- or force the issue by stripping him of some power or telling him to fire an assistance coach or whatever -- especially if during that time Snyder has had less say in the football decisions.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Has there been an RI pool yet for the day that Zorn is fired. I think it would be cool to see who could get "closest to the pin"

I think everyone should pick a day and time that the announcement will be made that Zorn has been fired.

Maybe we can get one of the large sports memerobilia franchises to donate a gently used Adam Archuletta jersey.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Monday Jan 4, 2010 0930 est for official announcement of Zorn's firing.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

No points in the first half, 6-3 DC lead in the second. 47 rating to 60 for TC. Wasn't pretty, but it was better than soup as usual.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 28, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

3 of those points we due to a Portis run. Let's be honest TC completed 1 pass and then stunk it up.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17


Stunk less than rotten soup though, let's be honest.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=291018028

Posted by: Realness1 | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if Shanahan is a done deal. In Denver he was HC/GM and called all the shots.

Wasn't Allen brought in to be the GM? Does this mean that Shanahan is willing to be HC only?

Mista Moe, if you're still here, I don't agree that trading next year's 1st round pick is a good idea. Part of the problem with the Redskins is that they have had only 4 1st round picks in the last 7 years. And 2 of those guys were QB!!!

Have a good OL first. It's been 8 years since the Redskins drafted an OL in the first round, and it shows.

Don't trade first round picks, especially likely top 10. Even if it's for the right to pick Ricky Williams. I would make an exception for Peyton Manning, but you know Ryan Leaf went second to Bobby Beathard in that same draft. So maybe don't trade first round picks ever.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Are there any veteran QBs that are in a contract year?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell
Kyle Orton
Chad Pennington
Tarvaris Jackson
Kellen Clemens
Charlie Batch
Kyle Boller
David Carr
Brodie Croyle
Daunte Culpepper
Rex Grossman
Joey Harrington
Jon Kitna
Matt Moore
Chris Redman
Brett Ratliff
Troy Smith

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, I'll go with February 9th 2013. After hoisting his third Lombardi trophy in as many years, Zorn steps down triumphant. And just to keep the wins coming, Coach Z passes the reigns to Jerry Gray his loyal assistant.
(Coincidentally, Mr.Redskin21 losses his virginity that very same day!)

Posted by: mack1 | December 28, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The only QB that fits anything close to that description is JC. I really wouldn't be surprised if Shanahan kept him.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17

I think there would be worse things than having JC17 for another year...but I dont think Shanahan would be a guy who inherits a QB.

Dont follwo much college fuball. I know the QBs that are coming out this yearand no one really jumps out at me. Who are the college QBs that could be available next year.

Gives Shanahan a chance to see if he can fix the issues with JC17. We may be able to get him on a one-year extension and see what happens. If we give him what he needs and he still cannot get it done, then we use the draft.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

So who is this young mobile accurate bootleg QB in this year's draft or free agency? Bradford is a pocket passer, Claussen isn't mobile, Mallet sure the heck isn't mobile either, Pike, Tebow, and McCoy lack NFL arm strength. The only QB that fits anything close to that description is JC. I really wouldn't be surprised if Shanahan kept him.

Ummmm, Colt Brennan is young, mobile, and accurate.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 28, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

etrod, I immediately thought of a few critical ways Zorn could mess that up, and I imagined him on his way down, blaming the parachute... "I called the play to succeed... but the parachute did not open."

Not that I would ever wish such a thing on anyone, let alone Legitimately Nice Guy Zorn... I hope the plane lands safely in Dulles with its full complement of losers and Zorn shuffles off to whatever life brings him next.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

heres hoping Mack...

I really like Zorn, but he ain't ready yet.

I think the players need a "crazy Uncle Gus" instead of "sweet Uncle Leonard" as a HC.

At the end of the day...Shanahan has more credit that any of the Skins player

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I predicted this because I think Snyder cares how he is perceived...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2009 5:22 PM

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If Snyder cared about public perception, why was he laughing off the loss with Bruce Allen in the owner's box?

Heck, I may be making too much out of this one snippet, but that simply did not look good to anyone who was paying attention, and that was a nationally televised game.

Jerry Jones has had his own issues with his head coach, but has handled it differently. When asked about a possible coaching change, he said he liked his coach and was hoping Wade Phillips "ratified" that approval through his job performance.

Moreover, Jones has given Phillips a darn good roster with which to work.

Snyder has the opposite approach. Give your HC a chronically weak roster, and then actively undermine his authority... in spite of the fact he's doing his utmost to be personally accountable.

and Dan Snyder could give a rat's arse what folks think about it.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

JC aint gonna sign for 1 year Cheyenne. Judging by the QB list that PAskinsfan17 posted I would say JC is the best veteran QB out there this off season.

Shanahan inherited Elway so that is not an issue.

I think Shanahan keeps JC for 2-3 years and they get to work on fixing that OLine. Better running attack and *gasp* the Redskins actually coming up with passing plays exceeding 15yds.

Posted by: vmrg1974 | December 28, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if Shanahan is a done deal. In Denver he was HC/GM and called all the shots.

Wasn't Allen brought in to be the GM? Does this mean that Shanahan is willing to be HC only?

Mista Moe, if you're still here, I don't agree that trading next year's 1st round pick is a good idea. Part of the problem with the Redskins is that they have had only 4 1st round picks in the last 7 years. And 2 of those guys were QB!!!

Have a good OL first. It's been 8 years since the Redskins drafted an OL in the first round, and it shows.

Don't trade first round picks, especially likely top 10. Even if it's for the right to pick Ricky Williams. I would make an exception for Peyton Manning, but you know Ryan Leaf went second to Bobby Beathard in that same draft. So maybe don't trade first round picks ever.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse


Shanny would still get full control. Allen is a cap guy and negotiator. He's never been a talent guy. He would facilitate whatever Shanny wants, just like he did with Gruden.

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 28, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking the same thing. I think JC17 is better than any of the others listed, but I didnt want to seem like a homer

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Are there any veteran QBs that are in a contract year?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell
Kyle Orton
Chad Pennington
Tarvaris Jackson
Kellen Clemens
Charlie Batch
Kyle Boller
David Carr
Brodie Croyle
Daunte Culpepper
Rex Grossman
Joey Harrington
Jon Kitna
Matt Moore
Chris Redman
Brett Ratliff
Troy Smith

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse


This list, which I've posted many times myself, just proves that a SuperBowl QB isn't out there in free agency. Bring JC back for one more year and develop someone to take the reigns if JC can't get it done with that little elf calling the plays.

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 28, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

You're right Skinsfan -- maybe Brennan is going to get a shot next year.

Zorn... watching these last 2 years, he doesn't trust anybody but veterans, and not only veterans but veteran starters. He didn't trust Brennan despite the fact that Brennan was the right QB for his scheme. He didn't trust Kelly or Thomas or Davis, being unwilling to let them make mistakes while they learned to play. Pretty weird for a former player.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 28, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I did like Charlie Baych in the pre-season game though. He is my dad's age I think though

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

When you have as many needs to fill as the Redskins do, the only responsible thing to do is to trade down out of the first round.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Who knows what Danny and BA were laughing about? Who cares?

Tells me they are at peace knowing there is only one game left before they can announce The Next Phase.


Shanny is going to be in charge of Coaching with full control over the roster. BA is there to manage the cap, deal with the agents, facilitate the moves, make the calls, and generally, not be a drooling moron like his predecessor.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 28, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

What's all this "get Campbell a decent HC, and decent O-line?"

He sucks, period. And he's shown it in numerous ways over his 3 years as a starter.

They're the Washington Redskins, not the Washington Campbells.

No, Carolina isn't interested in him as a starter - they have a kid named Matt Moore who actually makes plays, thanks anyway.

The fact that people even want him back here is mind-boggling; but then again so is the small contingent of people who want goofball Zorn back for another season as HC.

Eff 'em both. Good riddance.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 28, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I think Zorn got into that sticky position where he was trying so hard to keep his job, he forgot to do his job.

Should have got the young pups in earlier. There was no passion out there the last two weeks. I think the Saints loss took alot out of them.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 28, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

The only guy on that list of FA QB that interests me is David Carr, who's spent the last 2 years holding a clipboard in NY.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 28, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, I'll go with February 9th 2013. After hoisting his third Lombardi trophy in as many years, Zorn steps down triumphant. And just to keep the wins coming, Coach Z passes the reigns to Jerry Gray his loyal assistant.
(Coincidentally, Mr.Redskin21 losses his virginity that very same day!)

Posted by: mack1 | December 28, 2009 5:30 PM |
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Who are you?

I've never read any of your posts.

So I can't even believe you flat-out admit that you think of me (let alone my cherry status). You must have a real interesting life.

But have fun pulling your pud over an anonymous font, scooter.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 28, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

He would facilitate whatever Shanny wants, just like he did with Gruden.

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 28, 2009 5:38 PM

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Yeah and that worked out really well.

Why is everyone forgetting that Allen and Gruden were run out of Tampa Bay?

They could never get over the hump - had ZERO success grooming a good QB, thereby assuring Brad Johnson perennial starter status.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, you may be right. Or, it could be that JZ still has a veteran's mindset, that guys who've done it in the past can do it again. Kinda like Bruce Allen's daddy.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 28, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Public perception is important, kanoeohe, unless you live on an island.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Since buying the team in 1999 for $800 million, Snyder has doubled its value by saturating every orifice of the D.C. area with Redskins' burgundy and gold. He's bought radio stations, charged fans to watch players sweat through training camp, and opened 14 Redskins retail stores to sell as many jerseys, hats, and Redskins' paraphernalia as possible. Snyder was even rumored to have considered selling a brand of Redskins cola at one point.

Since 2000, he's crammed 10,000 extra seats into FedEx Field, many of them high-end luxury boxes; sold the stadium naming rights to the Memphis-based shipping company for a reported $7.6 million a year; and upped ticket prices, though the Redskins have always had the NFL's highest seat prices. Snyder's used all that extra cash to sign big-name players and coaches to record-breaking contracts, which in turn fuels more ticket sales, more merchandising, etc...

And the result?

A completely soulless, corporate product.

newsweek.com

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

It's also a losing team.

Under Snyder's tenure, the Redskins have been a testament to the fact that in the NFL, winning and making money can be mutually exclusive goals. With one does not necessarily come the other. For the past couple of years, corporate America has done some searching on the issue of pay for performance. Why reward top execs with stock-option-loaded contracts and buyout packages even as their companies fail.

When it comes to the Redskins, the traditional P-and-E ratios simply don't apply.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

It's what I think and know soup lover/excuse maker. I appologize for rating him higher I should have though. Soup busted a 46 that day. Sorry.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=291018028

Posted by: Realness1 | December 28, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

So now you're selectively culling from my posts, and ignoring my other points. Congrats for proving nothing.

Collins is a backup QB who was given several chances to start early in his career. When good teams have time to prepare for him, he's worse than Campbell, which is why he doesn't start.

For his career, Soup averages a 85 QB rating. Awesome? No. Good enough? Sure.

I'm not going to dignify any more of your crappy arguments with responses, so fire away. I'll stick with p1funk and other people who can offer meaningful disagreement.

Posted by: jcabana | December 28, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

So, Kanoehe, when we see Dan Snyder laughing off a loss to the Cowboys in the owner's box...

Maybe we should care?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

But while he's beefed up the Redskins' bottom line, Snyder's lost more than just games. He's lost something that no other team had: the support of the most powerful people in the country. This is a team that over the years has counted presidents, senators, and Supreme Court justices among its most die-hard fans. In a town as partisan as D.C., the Redskins were the one unifier, the one thing that Republicans and Democrats could both cheer for.

As president, Nixon used to show up at practices. He's even rumored to have called in a play during a 1971 NFC playoff game. (The play lost 13 yards.) In 1966, LBJ became the first sitting president to go to a pro-sports event when he visited then-Redskins' minority owner Edward Bennett Williams's box. Pre-Snyder, that owner's box counted as its regulars presidential hopefuls like Eugene McCarthy, George McGovern, and Pat Buchanan. Ethel Kennedy was given a luxury box after RFK was assassinated. Sen. John Warner used to show up with wife Elizabeth Taylor in tow.

After the Redskins won the Super Bowl in 1983, President Reagan stood in the freezing cold at Dulles airport, shaking hands as the team deplaned from Pasadena. Nine years later, after their third Super Bowl victory, President George H.W. Bush threw the team a backyard barbecue in the Rose Garden. He even beat them at a game of horseshoes.

But those days are gone. President Obama likes the Bears and Steelers. The biggest name you'll see in the owner’s box these days is Tom Cruise. Not only has the winning stopped, but the team's luster has been tarnished among the Beltway brass. Hall of Fame running back and Redskins' all-time leading rusher John Riggins sees it all too well. In a mid-December interview with NEWSWEEK, Riggins described a party he'd recently attended at the home of a U.S. senator. "There were some Supreme Court justices there, definitely people high up inside the government," says Riggins, "and they were all saying the same thing: they are done supporting this team."

Maybe that's why Snyder made the change and fired Cerrato. Maybe he realized that, after a season in which chants of "Sell the Team" have wafted up to the owner's box and fans have been banned from bringing signs into FedEx Field, lest they say something nasty about the owner, all that dysfunction and losing might finally hit him where it hurts: the wallet.

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but who cares?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | December 28, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing we see press conference on 1/4 announcing new HC . . .probably Shanahan. . .Zorn has likely started packing up the office already.

Here is what I want to hear at said presser...
1) from Snyder - very little except here is our new HC and he and Allen will be handling all football decisions and operations while I go off and try to save Six Flags - I don't want to hear any shti about SBs, the 80s etc. Those SB trophies had best be locked up.

2)from new HC - straight to the point about how this is a franchise with a great tradition and history but not recently and none of that matters given the lousy 2009 season. That we are rebuilding. That we are not a good team yet but we can be. That every person on the roster will have to prove their worth and fight for their chance for a spot or as a starter. I don't want pompoms of any kinds just a guy standing up there saying we can be good but not yet and everyone has to prove their worth. That any shenanigans from players who think they are more important than the team because they have a big paycheck will not be tolerated.
Buck stops with the HC period so get on board or get ready to hold a clipboard.

Posted by: sfskin | December 28, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

* beep beep *

new post

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

PA, jcabana, and the other soup lovers, you guys keep beating the drum that its all everybody else's fault and JC just needs some more time and a better oline.....its meaningless, in 6 days he will have played his last game as the Redskins starter and he and Zorn can go hang out in Cleveland with the Big Show and Shanny will rebuild the oline with a bunch of smaller athletic technically sound guys who typically don't go in the top 5 anyway, with a better defense, a better collection of receivers, whatever RB he plugs in for a 1000 yards (mike bell, mike anderson, travis henry, etc.) and a young, mobile, accurate QB who will flourish in his bootleg, roll the pocket, WCO system. IMO, the question will be will Shanny ever get us a Championship, not if he will make us immediately competitive and respectable and a perennial playoff contender especially inheriting what he didn't have in Denver, a defense!

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 28, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I beat no such drum. All I'm arguing is that Campbell isn't so terrible that replacing him should be an immediate priority. Attributing any greater level of Campbell support to me is an exaggeration.

What makes you think Shanahan will automatically be able to duplicate any of what he did in Denver? Alex Gibbs was Shanahan's o-line guru; he works in Atlanta last time I checked. What makes you think the team will improve on defense? The Redskins defense is overrated this season, and Shanahan fired a couple of defensive coordinators during his Denver tenure with middling results to show for it.

Recent history has proven that picking a QB high -- and missing -- has far-reaching, devastating consequences on a franchise. Check out this list of busts: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/174684-worst-nfl-draft-busts-quarterback#page/1 . Each miss set back these franchises a few years.

Or check out this one: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/470454/nfl_quarterback_drafts_more_bust_than.html

The Redskins should find a new QB to develop. But they'd better not spend a high pick, trade picks, or spend a ton of money on one until more pieces are in place.

Posted by: jcabana | December 28, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell
Kyle Orton
Chad Pennington
Tarvaris Jackson
Kellen Clemens
Charlie Batch
Kyle Boller
David Carr
Brodie Croyle
Daunte Culpepper
Rex Grossman
Joey Harrington
Jon Kitna
Matt Moore
Chris Redman
Brett Ratliff
Troy Smith

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse


This list, which I've posted many times myself, just proves that a SuperBowl QB isn't out there in free agency. Bring JC back for one more year and develop someone to take the reigns if JC can't get it done with that little elf calling the plays.
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What did you see what Matt Moore did to the Vikings and the Giants?? He is head and shoulders better than Campbell. Only problem is Carolina knows he is head and shoulders better so will keep him. Orton is also much better, but again Dernver keeps him. Most interesting guy to me is David Carr.. a first pick of the draft, on the Giants so knows the NFC East. Chad Pennington is also interesting IF HEALTHY if only as a bridge to Colt Brennan. But last thing we want is to bring back JC.. problem is how do you get rid of a guy I doubt anyone will really want???

Posted by: sovine08 | December 28, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins should find a new QB to develop. But they'd better not spend a high pick, trade picks, or spend a ton of money on one until more pieces are in place.
Posted by: jcabana
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Cool.. Develop Colt Brennan. Don't need to draft him, or trade for him or spend a ton of money he's here already here and he's young mobile and accurate.. Dump Campbell. Just to much losing associated with him. Skins need to start fresh..

Posted by: sovine08 | December 28, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Slimy $nyder and unloyal, no-principled Jerry Gray. The perfect pair for a sham interview. Even more shameful that Goodell and the Fritz Pollard "Alliance" condoned it.

Posted by: nojunk4me | December 28, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm reading this from buffalo, ny and having Jerry Gray here at one time, i'm very surprised! I'm not sure who i am more ashamed of D snyder or Jerry! Come on...do u really believe he had any shot at the job??? What a joke snyder is and let me guess Gray will still have a job with the skins next year!!! Enjoy being in last place for a long time to come......... u made a joke of the rule!!! PS im not a bills fan!!!! Fins baby!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: houpty77 | December 28, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Slimy $nyder and unloyal, no-principled Jerry Gray. The perfect pair for a sham interview. Even more shameful that Goodell and the Fritz Pollard "Alliance" condoned it.

Posted by: nojunk4me | December 28, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, this is exactly what I was thinking also.
What would Gray stoop so low? He must have no spine, no self steem...What would you let someone use you to mascarade the innevitable...You sir are a clown and have let so many people down. Jerry Gray was used by Snyder as toilet paper to wipe off the fact the Shanny is who he wants so that left Jerry Gray's manhood smeared all over the paper.

Posted by: Incognito00 | December 29, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Slimy $nyder and unloyal, no-principled Jerry Gray. The perfect pair for a sham interview. Even more shameful that Goodell and the Fritz Pollard "Alliance" condoned it.

Posted by: nojunk4me | December 28, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, this is exactly what I was thinking also.
What would Gray stoop so low? He must have no spine, no self steem...What would you let someone use you to mascarade the innevitable...You sir are a clown and have let so many people down. Jerry Gray was used by Snyder as toilet paper to wipe off the fact the Shanny is who he wants so that left Jerry Gray's manhood smeared all over the paper.

Posted by: Incognito00 | December 29, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Slimy $nyder and unloyal, no-principled Jerry Gray. The perfect pair for a sham interview. Even more shameful that Goodell and the Fritz Pollard "Alliance" condoned it.

Posted by: nojunk4me | December 28, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I HEARD SOMEONE SAID ON THE RADIO THAT GOODELL AND THE ALLIANCE WILL ALWAYS COVER FOR ONE OF THE FRANCHISES AS THEY WOULDN'T WANT CONGRESS TO GET INVOLVED BY LOOKING INTO ANOTHER CORRUPT ORGANIZATION..OF COURSE SNYDER COMPLIED. SURE WINK WINK.

Posted by: Incognito00 | December 29, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

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