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Redskins know evaluations have only just begun

Since he was introduced as the Redskins' general manager on Dec. 17, Bruce Allen has watched two of his team's games, both in prime time, both at FedEx Field, both lopsided losses to NFC East opponents. The tally for those two games: Opponents 62, Redskins 12.

Some more tidbits for Allen to chew on: The Redskins were outgained 780-520. They sacked the quarterback three times and allowed eight sacks of their own. They fumbled four times and didn't force any. Their top rusher? Quarterback Jason Campbell, who also happened to be the guy getting crushed on all those sacks.

So what might Allen's take have been after watching, in person, a 45-12 loss to the New York Giants and Sunday night's 17-0 loss to Dallas?

"If you go off them last two games, man, we look like a college football team," cornerback DeAngelo Hall said. "To make a long story short, there ain't too many guys out there making great plays, so if he had to go off those two games and evaluate this roster and determine what's good money, what's bad money, what's going to go, what's going to stay, it hasn't been a great case made for nobody on this 53-man roster."

Other players didn't have such a dramatic take on the past two weeks, preferring to concentrate on a stretch of games in which the Redskins were far more competitive -- losses to Dallas, Philadelphia and New Orleans and a win over Oakland.

"If he really watched the film and really watched some of the guys that play hard, we got a great nucleus around here, and we just got to get the key components to make it right," said defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth. "I don't think he's thinking that we just have to blow up this team and we have to start from ground zero. I don't think he would be thinking that, because we do have a lot of great players."

But it doesn't take away from Allen's task: Evaluate every part of the football operation, and decide who to keep and who to let go.

"That's the tough thing," Campbell said. "You understand you are getting evaluated every play, and sometimes we're in a tough position and a lot of times it's not even fair. But what can I say? What can I do? Just got to keep pushing forward and keep fighting."

By Barry Svrluga  |  December 28, 2009; 6:30 AM ET
 
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Comments

Can we do it?

NO WE CANT!

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 28, 2009 6:37 AM | Report abuse

I know everyone wants to blame Campbell and Portis but the truth is we have no offensive line. We should be taking one of the top tackles in the first round and a guard in the second. Dump Heyer and Thomas, resign Levi and put him on the right side and try to find a center in free agency whose name isn't Rabach.

Posted by: fjd124 | December 28, 2009 7:18 AM | Report abuse

We are moving up that draft pick chart, baby!

Posted by: Sports_Guru | December 28, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Allen Could have sent a "Huge" message by suspending Albert for insubordination!

Posted by: Spanglerg | December 28, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

YOU CANNOT PLAY NFL FOOTBALL WITHOUT AN OFFENSIVE LINE. Good grief, what is there to evaluate?

How can you evaluate the performance of this team without an offensive line? Its like trying to evaluate the performance of a sportscar without wheels!

Posted by: watchingfromasia | December 28, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Allen Could have sent a "Huge" message by suspending Albert for insubordination!

Posted by: Spanglerg | December 28, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Not his decision to make. The owner wanted to watch Haynesworth "blow up" the Cowboys.

I wish people would get real about the the Bruce Allen hiring. The man will not be making final decisions about anything, any more than he did while working for Al Davis.

Posted by: Pepper5 | December 28, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Allen is the latest in a long line of Snyder's sissy sock puppets!

Posted by: Sports_Guru | December 28, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

"What can I do?"

Jeez, JC, you can try making a few plays from time to time.

What an idiot and what a loser!

Posted by: bestmick1 | December 28, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

I bet these guys will recover nicely on their month long vacation to the warm beaches.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 28, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The ineptness which this team embodies is stunning. We have coach's who seemingly don't game plan, they simply put their 'scheme' out there week after week, Blache on defense, and JZ/Lewis on offense, they don't put players in situations to make plays, the national media has jumped in on the feel bad for JZ thing, and I simply don't get that, if you don't score more than 30 points in over a year, then you DESERVE to have the play calling taken away, and as Collinsworth pointed out, on a 3 step drop, when your back heel hits the ground that thing has to get thrown, the ball HAS TO, come out. HAS. TO. JC has ZERO feel for the pocket, when to step up, or slide, or move laterally....there was a play where he ran into a sack, another play where instead of stepping up into the pocket, he just simply retreated....its just pathetic

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

I think wihen the Redskins start the new season, they should go back to the old stateum. This might help.

Posted by: lwistock | December 28, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Most NFL players are only as good as their schemes or leaderships are, so if the scheme does not change, then it is the leadership that is the problem. That is what Bruce Allen should be evaluating as well. Obviously he is looking at the overall talent of the team but it is so blatant that the coaches have already packed for the Summer and barely motivate, let alone game plan for the last two games. "Going through the motion" applies to both players and coaches, too bad the players have to listen to the "lame-duck" coaches.

Posted by: JohnWWW | December 28, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

That's twice Jason said that the statement that it's not fair.

What that you had a wide open Fred Davis in perfect position to keep the chains moving on the opening offensive series of the game & you tried too hard to make a perfect spiral & it was intercepted.

You are not alone in your futility.

With the exception of London Fletcher, Andre Carter & Brian Orakpo no one on this year's team did anything consistently well.

I think Haynesworth is not the greatest teammate in the world. He is right however in his assessment of the porous defensive schemes Blache institutes.

Chris Collinsworth, a respected television football analyst, commented frequently in the second half on how the secondary (Landry especially) was so far off the coverage, that it is way too easy for Romo to them apart. He was feasting on the imbecilic strategy.

What works is belief in each other & in what you are doing.

This team has neither, and I seriously doubt a new coach, a new QB and a revamped offensive line will erase the embarrassment of the low of going 0-6 in the division.

That stat alone should signal the end of many Redskins' tenures.

Boo..........

Posted by: Sammy33 | December 28, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe Campbell was openly whining after last night's game. He was sacked 3 times and hit 8 times. And some of those were certainly his own fault. Look at Aaron Rodgers; he was getting crushed earlier in the year and has still put up great numbers. I hope to see the last of JC17 in a Redskins uniform next week.

Posted by: garg8050 | December 28, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

""If he really watched the film and really watched some of the guys that play hard. . . ".

The great thing for Allen is that watching that much game film, to see "guys that play hard", should only take about 3 minutes...

Get a clue, Fat Albert -- this team NEEDS to be blown up and rebuilt from the ground up. And you need to shut your fat mouth and let it happen -- you're a PLAYER, not an owner or a coach or a general manager. Get on board or get the hell outa the way...

Posted by: gr8day4bsbll | December 28, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

That's twice Jason said that the statement that it's not fair.

What that you had a wide open Fred Davis in perfect position to keep the chains moving on the opening offensive series of the game & you tried too hard to make a perfect spiral & it was intercepted?

You are not alone in your futility.

With the exception of London Fletcher, Andre Carter & Brian Orakpo no one on this year's team did anything consistently well.

I think Haynesworth is not the greatest teammate in the world. He is right however in his assessment of the porous defensive schemes Blache institutes.

Chris Collinsworth, a respected television football analyst, commented frequently in the second half on how the secondary (Landry especially) was so far off the coverage, that it is way too easy for Romo to pick them apart. He was feasting on the imbecilic strategy.

What works is belief in each other & in what you are doing.

This team has neither, and I seriously doubt a new coach, a new QB and a revamped offensive line will erase the embarrassment of the low of going 0-6 in the division.

That stat alone should signal the end of many Redskins' tenures.

Boo..........

Posted by: Sammy33 | December 28, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Fletcher - The guy plays with more heart & soul than anyone on the team. He never misses a tackle. He deserves the pro bowl.

Haynesworth - he pulled the same crap in Tennessee. He is good for 20 plays a game - 6 in which he plays hard. Typical Synder/Vinny deal. I will take 1 Fletcher for every 3 Haynesworth's any day.

JC - he is not a starting NFL QB. Despite the fact that the line is terrible. The guy can't make the reads, he has never been an accurate QB (look at his college stats). Look last night - the CB were blizting constantly off the edge - every 3rd down. He did'nt adjust and go to his hot read... not ONCE! The guy doesn't get it.

This offense is pathetic, they can't throw the ball more than 8 yards downfield. I know the line sucks but for Christ's sakes - roll JC out to one side and protect - Gibbs did it all the time. Instead it's the same 3 step / 5 step drop and 5 yard pass. Every team stacks the line on us with 9 in the box - daring us to throw past the line of scrimmage. If I see another screen or 4 yard crossing route I am going to break my TV - it is maddening!

Either way - sad as it is we need to start over and get a new QB. JC is a league backup at best, will be proven when you see the Free Agent market for him.

Posted by: rskinsfan | December 28, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Fletcher - The guy plays with more heart & soul than anyone on the team. He never misses a tackle. He deserves the pro bowl.

Haynesworth - he pulled the same crap in Tennessee. He is good for 20 plays a game - 6 in which he plays hard. Typical Synder/Vinny deal. I will take 1 Fletcher for every 3 Haynesworth's any day.

JC - he is not a starting NFL QB. Despite the fact that the line is terrible. The guy can't make the reads, he has never been an accurate QB (look at his college stats). Look last night - the CB were blizting constantly off the edge - every 3rd down. He did'nt adjust and go to his hot read... not ONCE! The guy doesn't get it.

This offense is pathetic, they can't throw the ball more than 8 yards downfield. I know the line sucks but for Christ's sakes - roll JC out to one side and protect - Gibbs did it all the time. Instead it's the same 3 step / 5 step drop and 5 yard pass. Every team stacks the line on us with 9 in the box - daring us to throw past the line of scrimmage. If I see another screen or 4 yard crossing route I am going to break my TV - it is maddening!

Either way - sad as it is we need to start over and get a new QB. JC is a league backup at best, will be proven when you see the Free Agent market for him.

Posted by: rskinsfan | December 28, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

$nyder = Sawed-Off Midget
Cerrato = Fired
Zorn = Therapist
Blachne = Coward
Donovan = Moron
Landry = Pre-Schooler
D. Hall = Can't Cover
Rogers = Can't Catch
Sellers = Can't block
Stompworth = Over Paid Cry-Baby
Cooley = Over Rated Period
Portis = Pockets Straight
Allen = Good Luck Pal

My girl friend is Lithuanian and she is freakin smashing. I'm one lucky guy. Who needs $nyder's Redskins when your in my position?

Posted by: hessone | December 28, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Granted we need Offensive lineman but with or wthout the Offensive line we've had issues scoring with this offense. We have a lot of other issues like a running back and quarterback...etc

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 28, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Both Ben Rothlesberger and Aaron Rogers have been sacked more this season than Jason Campbell. No whining from them, and no losing records.

Time to go, Jason C. Hope you find as good of enablers as the Post's in your next city.

Posted by: Truth6 | December 28, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Allen Could have sent a "Huge" message by suspending Albert for insubordination!
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He could have, but I think he saw/evaluated how the current coaches handled the situation. Its just another tick on the list for the Zorn regime.

Posted by: clark202 | December 28, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Granted we need Offensive lineman but with or wthout the Offensive line we've had issues scoring with this offense. We have a lot of other issues like a running back and quarterback...etc
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Once we have an offensive line that is filled with NFL starters and not 2nd and 3rd stringers, it will make a huge difference. If the QB has time to throw the ball and the RB has holes to run through, the offense will improve drastically. And you don't need a top notch QB or RB to improve, i.e. Kyle Orton. Focus on the O-line. Get a decent QB in lower rounds or in FA. Maybe 2 years down the road you get a QB in the high rounds of the draft, but only after your OL has been established.

Posted by: clark202 | December 28, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Allen's strength is supposed to be getting all team functions on the same page and headed toward the same goals - the roster, the office, the administrative help, coaches, everybody. I'm glad he's seen this team at their seasons worst because he'll know exactly what he needs to do to be effective as a General Manager.

I hope in doing his job he'll not only evaluate the talent on the team, but also how the ownership and the executives at Redskin Park have sabotaged their own team at times - not intentionally I hope - by not being on the same page.

Is Haynesworth accurate in his criticism of Blatche and his defensive philosophy on how best to use Albert's skill set? Probably. However, what about being in shape enough - Albert - to play without taking every other down off? I think that would show Albert's dedication to the team and show his leadership abilities of which we've seen absolutely none this year.

It's a symptom of what's wrong from the top to the bottom. Arrogance over teamwork. No one team, one goal philosophy. What kind of offense will this team be? Okay then get players to fit in that scheme or adjust the scheme to fit the players you have. It's not rocket science but to hear some speak about it they think it is.

So welcome to our world Bruce Allen. I wish you much success. But mostly I wish you'd apply your skills to actually making the Redskins a TEAM again.

Posted by: BenThere | December 28, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

1. The best thing for Bruce to do is watch the tapes of this past season’s games (ALL OF THEM) and of course the last game. He should be able to identify consistently good players versus players that just run their mouths. After that, he should call a team meeting and announce the fact that everyone is FIRED! Then, conduct team try outs with only the best of the ones he has fired. This may include players like London Fletcher, Chris Cooley, Brian Orakpo, Andre Carter – you get the idea. Guys that consistently make plays; playing not only hard but smart. Resign them.
2. The key is retaining players that WANT TO PLAY HERE AND WANT TO BE A WASHINGTON REDSKIN! I know that with free agency, it is quite difficult to say the least in keeping “core” players on a team however, this will be the key to our team’s future. That is how we won in the “glory days” and is the only way that makes sense. This is how you get people that really want to be here and give their best, not have their agent give their best sales pitch to get the $$.
3. Also, quit paying the big bucks right out of the box for players and instead “pay for play”! In other words pay a decent salary but do away with signing bonuses. Pay only for performance. The management must create and set “tangible” goals. The more great plays a player makes, the more wealthy he becomes. There is no incentive for the big name players to come here and consistently perform their best because they’ve already received the big pay; why work for it?
4. The current Offensive system is philosophically flawed as is the Defensive scheme. Do away with both. When the corners and safetys play so far off the opposition can pick you apart all day long. This has exposed many defensive weaknesses.
5. IMHO, the worst move that has been made by this teams management in decades is letting Greg Williams leave. He actually wanted to be a coach here and had a formidable and demonstrated track record to back it up. Re-think that one! I blame it all on Vinny. So glad he’s gone!
6. I can understand that an owner like Dan wants so badly to win and thinks he knows players and how much to pay for them but the first indication in my mind that true and positive change is going to happen with the Skins under Bruce Allen’s regime is for him to have the balls to tell Dan to STFU and let him steer the ship! If Dan tries to intervene, Bruce should in so many words tell him what he thinks and GO PUBLIC WITH IT! He could always go elsewhere. This would also be a leading indicator for any future prospective GM’s of what they’d have to deal with. I welcome any criticism to this point of view.

Posted by: CitizenA1 | December 28, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

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