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Redskins Make Contract Offer to Daniels

Jason Reid reports:

The Washington Redskins made a contract offer to veteran defesive lineman Phillip Daniels, who wants to return to the team.
"Yeah, my agent has been talking to the Redskins and they're trying to work out something," Daniels said. "There are some other teams calling, so I'm still just trying to take it slow and see what happens, but I'm hoping we can get something worked out and I can be a Redskin next season.
A 13-year veteran, Daniels, 36, missed the entire 2008 season after he suffered a knee injury on the first day of training camp last July. Daniels has played with the Redskins since 2004.

By Gene Wang  |  March 7, 2009; 7:48 PM ET
 
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first is not worth anything any more.

Posted by: online360 | March 7, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

really? I'm still getting residuals from my 'firsts' during "RI--Season One".

Posted by: daggar | March 7, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Where di JLC go. Why isnt he here not reporting news. This guy is a joke. Even when he is doing his job, ESPN doesn't even call what he does "reporting." They just say he "claims" that... JLC is a joke, stop reading Redskins.com for your insed news

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 7, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

And if we get Daniels, we would have a very good run D, and if we could somehow get orakpo to play SLB and come down to end on 3rd down, we would be dangerous on D with Haynesworth in the middle. We need to think of a good name for Haynesworth, any ideas

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 7, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Forth.

Posted by: MrDumberton | March 7, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Online 360...you missed the latest news. It's 4th now. You gotta be 4th to get any praise here.

So...

4th!!

Posted by: Section104 | March 7, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Crap. No fair double posting DFB!

Posted by: MrDumberton | March 7, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Bullsh!t.

I'm still 4th in my heart.

Posted by: Section104 | March 7, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

You're way late 104.

Posted by: MrDumberton | March 7, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I'll admit. I got owned by my own decision to write sentences. My bad.

Back to football though...I like getting Daniels back for a year, for his veteran presence. More importantly, TO signed w/Buffalo, so we don't have to deal with everyone talking about how Snyder is going to sign him.

Posted by: Section104 | March 7, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

The redskins need to look into getting Barnes now!!!

Posted by: fbailey | March 7, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Willis wasn't going to be much if any of an upgrade for the Skins afterall. Willis started 10 games for the Hawks in 2008 at RT. Stephon Heyer put some time in at RT for the Skins in 2008. The Hawks have a veteran pro-bowl LT in Walter Jones. The Skins have a veteran pro-bowl LT in Chris Samuels. The Skins had a crumbly OL in 2006 which allowed 38 sacks. Ditto the Hawks with 36 sacks. The Hawks ranked 19th in rushing yards per game. When you look at all parallel threads and say to yourself are we going to be a lot better with Willis in place of Heyer, Jansen or Fabini how could the answer be yes?

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 7, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Willis and Brown visited last week, but I never heard if the Skins made an offer to either of them...

Posted by: siris | March 7, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Signing Daniels for less than 2 mil is smart. He knows the defense and solidifies the LDE position [w/Jackson as backup]. Hopefully, he can stay healthy...

That leaves SLB, RT, and C/G as the positions to fill in the draft. The Skins do not have a strong-side linebacker on the roster (unless you count Blades).

Posted by: siris | March 7, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

daniels is not a starter anymore and please dont bring wynn back because he sucked before he left the first time. how about offer a trade to the bears for one of their de before binging all the old schools back. alex brown or adewale A would be a perfect fit with AH.

Posted by: wattsicon | March 7, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

this is a little off the subject but im glad to see owens to bills. also without owens and burress there are no dominant recievers in this division which will help our defense too.

Posted by: wattsicon | March 7, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

If re-signing Philip Daniels is the plan for the defensive end position, the Redskins are in trouble. Unless the younger guys have taken a giant step up this offseason, signing Daniels makes little sense. The guy is little more than a rotational guy who cannot handle 100% of the snaps. It doesn't sound like he's a sure thing, either. The teams spends a mountain of money on a defensive tackle they could have done without, and then they don't have the money to address the positions of need. Look, Vinny, if you don't know what to do, then the smartest thing to do is just imitate Bill Parcells and crew in Miami. Of course, you'd be laughing at yourself if you did that because you can best believe they all have gotten a good laugh over the Jason Taylor trade.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 7, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

you people are HUGE losers. Why are you arguing over what number you are to post comments?! Seriously?! Why are you even noting what number you are? It's a ridiculous obsession worthy of the dungeons & dragons crowd. Not Skins fans. Grow up a little.

Posted by: jaebersole | March 7, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

jaebersole is such a geek

Posted by: toohoes | March 7, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I am quite pleased that TO is officially not a Redskin.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 7, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

If re-signing Philip Daniels is the plan for the defensive end position, the Redskins are in trouble. Unless the younger guys have taken a giant step up this offseason, signing Daniels makes little sense.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 7, 2009 9:23 PM

Doesn't matter what the younger guys did. Skins prefer starters on the O-line and D-line when they're old enough to be POTUS.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 7, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Daniels can still have a 8-10 sack season, esp now that we have Haynesworth. He has at least 2 more years in him.

To SkinsfaninKaneohe:
T.O. was NEVER officially or unofficially a Redskin lol.

Posted by: piyusharora | March 7, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Our D-Line is going to be NASTY this year. I would be scared for all the other offenses. It just sucks that despite our defense being legit year in year out, we still have to be concerned about offense.

QB - Campbell?
WR - Can anyone take some pressure off Moss?
OL - Can any QB succeed here in Washington?

Posted by: piyusharora | March 7, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

you people are HUGE losers. Why are you arguing over what number you are to post comments?! Seriously?! Why are you even noting what number you are? It's a ridiculous obsession worthy of the dungeons & dragons crowd. Not Skins fans. Grow up a little.

Posted by: jaebersole | March 7, 2009 9:26 PM

Hey, you were #17 and you`re calling the 16 guys who posted ahead of you `losers`? I think you owe them all a big apology.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 7, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Look, Vinny, if you don't know what to do, then the smartest thing to do is just imitate Bill Parcells and crew in Miami. Of course, you'd be laughing at yourself if you did that because you can best believe they all have gotten a good laugh over the Jason Taylor trade.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 7, 2009 9:23 PM |

Yea, because Parcells won a whole bunch of Super Bowls since '90.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 7, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

If re-signing Philip Daniels is the plan for the defensive end position, the Redskins are in trouble. Unless the younger guys have taken a giant step up this offseason, signing Daniels makes little sense.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 7, 2009 9:23 PM

We could do worse. Daniels is definately old by NFL standard and is coming off a major injury BUT he has always been a monster against the run and is strong as an ox. He doesn't get fooled and ,to turn a Gibbsian phrase, is super smart.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 7, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Scamp,

Good point some of these idiots on here make me laugh.

Daniels will help out alot he does not have to play 100% of the snaps, there arn't many D-Linemen that do.

But in a rotation were he plays run downs, and then Jackson or Wilson play pass down they could be fine.

The young guys have to step up, they can't sign a new player for every position.

You guys keep saying they paid to much for AH, they could have done so much more if they had not signed him.

AH's contract is only 7mil against the cap this year, that is not that much.

They can't sign a new team which is what some of you seem to want them to do.

o-Line is the only thing that needs an update on offense, the WR's are going to have to step and so is JC.

They have signed Doc. which makes the left side better, they are stuck with Thomas because of his salary hopefully he plays better with either Hyer or the 13th pick next to him.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 7, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

List of players the Skins would be totally screwed if they were injured for any significant time:

Haynesworth, Andre Carter, London, Rocky, Carlos, DeAngelo, Landry. No remotely resonable backup at this point for any of these guys.

Offense: Samuels, Dockery, Raubach, Thomas, Portis, Moss, Cooley, probably JC.

We will probably get to training camp with a roster that could put forth a winning effort in many games. Quibble if you want about a particular player on my list - but you'll have to agree that the season is over with three of the above injured. These spots are supposed to be backed up with our draft picks from last year of which we have seen ZERO as of yet - Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Rheinhart, and Tryon. I love me some Skins - but this doesn't lay out in front of me in such a way that I can see a clear and probable path to success.

Posted by: thinker11 | March 7, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Here is my problem with the skins mgmt, when the skins players get injured for the year no matter the position Snyder and cerrato get into a panic mode, and they decide to trade for a player just like they traded for Jason Taylor without even thinking that is he gonna fit in our system they did the same thing when Clinton Portis was injured and they traded 3rd pick for T.J. Duckett and that didn't worked out either because of the fact that the skins had Betts Sellers and Cartwright at that spot also what the skins need to do is let other teams know unless the trade is for player for a player were are not making any trades involving picks what this does is it tells rest of the remaining teams that we as a team trading picks for players those days are gone for good also what snyder and Cerrato need to do if they decide to trade for a player they need to include the coaches being on offense or defense to see if the player they want fits the system.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | March 7, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Let's see if JLC and JR the hacks have anything good to say about the REDSKINS now that TO has gone to Buffalo.

I bet they say...WHY DIDNT THEY GO AFTER HIM? now.

Posted by: goosedude | March 7, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

this is a little off the subject but im glad to see owens to bills. also without owens and burress there are no dominant recievers in this division which will help our defense too.

Posted by: wattsicon

like this post ... and there's another angle to it.

Springs is gone and he was our best CB against the good, bigger, physical WRs. Last year, there were 2 of those guys in the NFC East -- burress and owens.

In 2009, there may be no good, big WRs in the NFC East (depending on burress and his status in nyg). This means better matchups for our CBs, Rogers and Hall.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 8, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

thinker11 -- I'd quibble a little bit with your list of who can't be replaced, but your core point is well put. This team does lack depth at several positions and the drop off can be huge with an injury. A small number of injuries can wreck the season.

Noteworthy is that several of the players you mentioned either have injury histories (Rogers, Haynesworth, Rocky, Moss) or are getting up in years (Samuels, Fletcher, Thomas) -- or both.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 8, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I'm wondering if any NFC East team improved in the offseason, at least so far. Some guys I'm not familiar with, so I don't know if they are upgrades.

Its pretty clear philly didn't improve. As problematic as Owens was, romo doesn't have much chemistry with the other WRs. jints lost ward -- and didn't get any major upgrades. Their DL was good across the line last year, even with osi out. I don't see canty upgrading talent, just depth.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 8, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

DaFunBunch:

Well hopefully "MONEYSWORTH" will be apropos, but that's not really a good monniker. "KILLER" sounds good. Folks could bring raw meat to the games, and scrub it on the "terrible towels" of the STEELERS fans when they're in town.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 8, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Shawn Springs took a big pay cut by signing with the Pats after being released by the Skins. With the Skins he was scheduled to get ~$7 mill in 2009. With the Pats he won't even get half that. Would he have redone his Skins contract to the equivalent of what he will now get with the Pats? Probably not, even though, other things being equal, it is almost always better to stay where you are instead of venturing off into the new and the unknown. Beneath the congenial "good guy" exterior that gave JLC such a huge tent in his pants ("one of the coolest cats I have ever covered in any pro sport", "His sense of humor, candor and outgoing nature will be missed by those who cover the team")
there was a hard-shelled "I'm my own man" core that often rubbed certain types the wrong way. The tiniest affliction would sideline him. He would not participate in the OTAs even though he was a highly paid veteran who was expected to be a role model. Would the Skins have retained him if he had agreed to redo his contract to the equivalent of what the Pats are giving him? Probably not, even though the Skins are dreadfully thin at the CB position. Smooty and Tyron as backups ain't gonna hack it.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 8, 2009 3:31 AM | Report abuse

I'm with you on Mauluga. We are so thin at LB, too.

Posted by: John_Keats | March 8, 2009 4:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm with you on Mauluga. We are so thin at LB, too.

Posted by: John_Keats | March 8, 2009 4:14 AM |

Cushing had much better stats than Maualuga at the Combine. Curry aced the combine but he probably will be long gone when the Skins pick. Marcus Freeman had good stats also but he is kind of the runt of the litter. From the Combine, for LBs:

40 yd dash

Name Time
Curry, Aaron 4.56
Arnoux, Stanley 4.61
McRath, Gerald 4.61
Matthews, Clay 4.67
Phillips, Jason 4.69
Brinkley, Jasper 4.72
Freeman, Marcus 4.74
Cushing, Brian 4.74
Follett, Zack 4.75
Fokou, Moise 4.76

Bench press

Name Reps
Cushing, Brian 30
Freeman, Marcus 30
Maiava, Kaluka 30
Felder, Anthony 28
McKillop, Scott 27
McKenzie, Tyrone 27
Brinkley, Jasper 26
Curry, Aaron 25
Casillas, Jonathan 24
Robinson, Lee 24

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 8, 2009 5:56 AM | Report abuse

Rey Maulugua is a beast but can he play SAM LB for a few years before taking over for London Fletcher in the middle? If he can, then I would choose him or his LB mate Brian Cushing at #13. Unless of course Andre Smith somehow drops to that spot.

Posted by: gilk | March 8, 2009 7:27 AM | Report abuse

USC is a system ... a very good system ... filled with very good players ... whose performance masks the weaknesses of the individual players. Cushing has already had serious surgery on his wheels. The system highlights Maualuga position. If it has to be a USC LB, then I say Clay Matthews Jr.

[This is a system that has delivered to us ... Dallas Sartz.]

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Andre Smith probably will drop to #13...the problem is, are his effort issues and flakiness aberrations or the norm? He can have all the potential in the world, but if he won't show up, literally or figuratively, doesn't make sense to go with him.

Also, I think combine stats are overrated. Look at the film: If Maualuga outplays Cushing, then he's better. If Cushing outplays Maualuga, he's better.

Posted by: Cavalier83 | March 8, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

zcezcest1

'...I'm wondering if any NFC East team improved in the offseason...'


Good point.

And if the question is, 'Has any team done enough to put itself in the position where it can take down the iggles?,' I'd say, 'Yeah.'

Let's look at it from the Redskins perpsective:

The Prince Albert signing helps against the jints, but the iggles don't really run, and McNabb isn't going to stand still once the pocket collapses so I don't see an advantage with him there.

In fact, McNabb becomes a threat as he'll move and challenge a 'backer or safety to come up off the guy he's covering so he can loft a pass over his head or take off running.

The cowboys will become a better offensive team with a reliance on the trio of Tashard, Jones, and Barber. T.O.'s leaving really will allow Romo to fuse with Witten and Williams like he should.

On paper: the added draft picks allow the iggles to improve their already strong depth. The skins really must add young versitile offensive lineman who can play from day one so Campbell can have the time to throw.

The skill players from the '08 draft class--Thomas/Davis/Kelly--are the keys to the skins chances late in the season should Portis break down from overuse, again. The skins should work o become a pass 1st team as the old days of 'grind it out' football or so 1980s.

The jints will suffer if Plax isn't there and with no Ward, they suffer. The Cowboys will implode and continue to dissapoint their fans as Romo isn't a leader and Philips not a coach. He's a goner come 2010.

The NFC East should be a battle between Washington and Philly.

And I'm taking Washington as the winner in that contest, my friend.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 8, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

john_keats

You're a bold man to offer the name of Rey Mauaulga as the pick at 13.

To me, he looked like a good fit at either slb or mlb.

Another guy I saw in the Senoir Bowl practices was a kid named Larry English from Northern Illinos.

Then there's Curry, Cushing, Okrapo, Maybin: the usual crew we all ape about.

But with no 'splashy moves' to improve o-lin play or depth--I dunno about the 'backer pick.

The tackle trio of Smith/Oher/Britton a 13 satisfies this blogga. Our offense must becomes the dominant third of the team as the league is slanted towards passing and scoring.

We can already stop people. But a offense that can repeatedly win 32-21 is better than a defense that often loses 14-10 anyday.

And we have that defense now.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 8, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

The 'skins firt pick of the 2009 draft will be...

Tyson Jackson DE from LSU. He is basically a younger version of Phillip Daniels/Demetric Evans

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/518155

However, if he's picked at the #13, fans will sh!t bricks.

Posted by: bangkokben | March 8, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

2/25/2009 - "I love Rey Maualuga from USC. He's my favorite player in the draft." Gruden proclaimed while commentating at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. He would go on to joke that he separated his shoulder simply from watching the viscous linebacker on tape. He praised Maualuga's versatility and impact on the game: "This guy will smash you. He's an every-down linebacker. He gets down the middle in Pete Carroll's Cover 2 scheme. He can play in the nickle. He can play in the base. This guy will smash you. He is a heck of a football player. I love this guy." - Jon Gruden on Maualuga

From CBSSports NFLDraftscout

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

A more consistent playmaker than Keith Rivers -- selected 10th overall by the Bengals in 2008 -- Maualuga might be the most explosive hitter in the draft. Blessed with a prototypical combination of size and athleticism, Maualuga has the speed to beat the running back wide and the bulk to be a punisher on the inside. Maualuga impressed scouts with his ability to rush the passer during drills at the Senior Bowl and delivered six sacks as a junior (zero as a senior). His penchant for big plays in coverage make him one of the few inside linebackers of this class capable of playing all three downs. A three-time all-conference selection and 2009 All-American, Maualuga is a difference-maker worthy of a top-20 selection in the 2009 draft.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

2/23/2009 - Cushing walked up to the podium at his news conference on Saturday afternoon and looked serious, spoke seriously and looked agitated. He knew what was eventually coming, and before long, indeed, it did. "I don't understand where it is coming from, I was tested last December at USC and passed, one of several tests I have passed. I was tested this morning here at the combine and those results should be out in a couple of weeks to a month, I believe. I think people are trying to find something, anything, that would detract from what I have done on the field. You learn in life if it's not one thing, it's the other. I hope once I pass the test here that this will be put behind me. I'm really hoping for that." And that is key. If the combine test shows Cushing steroids free, that should resolve this issue, this whisper turned into rumor turned into questions. He is not the first player at the combine to endure such scrutiny. He will not be the last. It is out there. It has stuck. An NFL general manager, requesting anonymity, said: "We've been warned it is an issue and might have been one since high school. We are considering that. As unpleasant as it is, this is an issue with this player that only a negative test here is going to clear up right now. It's unfortunate, because no one wants to kill the kid, but the issue is a reality." - Thomas George, NFL.com

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

The Skins have focused almost exclusively on Defense in free agency, save the Dockery signing and a couple of third-tier players such as the punter and kick returner.

WE MUST DRAFT OFFENSIVE LINEMAN with our early draft picks. The offense could not sustain drives last year - it was often 3 and out in the 4th quarters of games. Couple this with the fact that our punter sucked, and you have a defense that was put in tough situations far too many times. Without this extra pressure on the defense, they would have been even better than 4th.

I've said this in many of my posts, THE ROOT PROBLEM IS THE OFFENSIVE LINE. IF YOU CAN'T OPEN HOLES FOR PORTIS, YOU'VE GOT NOTHING. IF YOU CAN'T PASS PROTECT FOR CAMPBELL, YOU'VE GOT NOTHING.

If you really want the team to be better in 09, then you'll start talking about drafting TO MAKE THE OFFENSE BETTER. (ROOT PROBLEM)

Posted by: all_star_0013 | March 8, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

all_star,

The problem is that the 'root problem' can't be fixed due to one first day pick and the cap hits it would take to unload guys who are the problem. Cutting Jansen would wipe out the remaining cap space.

So the game plan seems to be take what was a strength of the team for the last five years and make it better. Then hope that they guys on the team can make the offense work.

Posted by: bangkokben | March 8, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I'm not saying it's a good plan.

Posted by: bangkokben | March 8, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

02/05/2009 - Alabama football coach Nick Saban speaks with former left tackle Andre Smith on a regular basis, providing him with positive feedback and advice he considers essential. Among the lessons, Saban tells Smith, is "how important it is to have good people around him right now that are giving him information about what he should and shouldn't do." A day after Smith appeared with the Crimson Tide during Tuesday night's presentation of the Iron Bowl trophy, Saban made his first public comments since Smith's disastrous NFL Combine experience. The two remain on good terms despite Saban's suspension of Smith for the Sugar Bowl. Smith was suspended, he told NFL teams, because he was not upfront with Saban about dealings with an agent. Considered a potential top five pick after winning the Outland Trophy, Smith declined to work out at the Combine, and then disappeared with no explanation. The Birmingham native later released a statement saying, "If I had the chance to do it all over, I wouldn't have handled it the way I did." Saban believes that Smith, like every prospect, should have worked out in Indianapolis, and any performance can be improved at his Pro Day, which is Wednesday at UA. "I'm not a proponent of not doing anything," Saban said. "If you've got a Pro Day coming up, you have a chance to improve what you did at the Combine. I know there are a lot of agents that would disagree with me. In Andre's case with his athleticism and his ability to run, his character, his attitude, he would have enhanced his position by doing more." - Ian R. Rapoport, The Birmingham News

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

And if we get Daniels, we would have a very good run D, and if we could somehow get orakpo to play SLB and come down to end on 3rd down, we would be dangerous on D with Haynesworth in the middle. We need to think of a good name for Haynesworth, any ideas

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 7, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I always hear the haters call him fat albert. I think thats funny! What about calling him Smash Albert.

Posted by: rcjordan44 | March 8, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Signed with Alabama as the top prep offensive lineman in the country and proved well worth the hype. Smith started every game of his career except the January 2009 Sugar Bowl (suspension), and developed into an elite pro prospect. A massive presence with rare athleticism, Smith was arguably the most valuable player in Alabama's rise this season, and his absence was obvious in the Tide's loss to Utah in the Sugar Bowl. After becoming only the seventh true freshman in school history to start the opening game of his career, Smith quickly developed into a star, voted as a true sophomore as the co-recipient (along with Arkansas center Jonathan Luigs) of the 2008 Jacobs Blocking Trophy, presented annually by the SEC coaches to the best blocker in the conference. A consensus All-American voted the Outland Trophy winner, Smith had a spectacular junior campaign until being suspended for the Tide's Sugar Bowl date with Utah for improper dealings with a sports agent. While scouts are sure to question Smith's priorities, his play is without question. A dominant run blocker and surprisingly agile pass protector, Smith is among the elite talents in the draft and a likely top-five selection.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

So you let Evans go and try to sign the same player that's 7-8 yrs older and is coming off a major injury. Wonderful

Posted by: ga8085 | March 8, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

If you want value at #13, and the top 4 OTs are taken, there's a big drop off before the next best.

Eben Britton
Height: 6-6 | Weight: 309 | Position:OT | College: Arizona

The spread attack is often characterized as a finesse offense. With the massive Britton operating at left tackle for the Wildcats, physicality in the running game was the key to U of A's success. The spread attack and mobile senior quarterback Willie Tuitama help mask Britton's lack of elite foot speed and agility as a pass blocker, but his size and strength in the running game could make him a standout at right tackle or even inside at guard in a drive-blocking scheme. Scouts love his physicality and consistency. After redshirting in 2005, Britton started the next consecutive 37 games and earned first-team All-Pac-10 honors as a left tackle in 2008.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

William Beatty
Height: 6-6 | Weight: 307 | Position:OT | College: Connecticut

2/19/2009 - Connecticut's William Beatty is considered one of the draft's best senior offensive lineman, but his weight has been an issue. Unlike Herman Johnson, Beatty's problem has been keeping weight on. He acknowledged that the biggest knock against him has been his slender (for an offensive lineman) frame. He blames extensive travel for his weight loss. He checked in at a respectable 291 at Connecticut, but says he lost several pounds due to a hectic 2009 schedule. Beatty says going back and forth between both coasts, playing in the International Bowl in Canada and participating in the East-West Shrine Game and the Senior Bowl eventually wore him down. He points out his weight is rebounding, however, and he will participate in all the drills in an effort to show scouts he is rejuvenated and that his recent strength training regimen and diet have paid off. - Jason Feller, NFL.com
Overview
A talented athlete capable of becoming one of the surprises of the 2009 draft. In a talented left tackle class, Beatty might be the best combination run blocker. Beatty's burst to the second level and explosive initial pop helped Donald Brown to a 2,000-yard season in 2008. Beatty demonstrated more than enough athleticism to protect the passer, though he was not a true blindside protector when lefty Jared Lorenzen was under center. The concern is that Beatty's level of play spiked dramatically as a senior, forcing scouts to determine if Beatty matured as a senior or was motivated by the promise of a big NFL paycheck.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Even with Haynesworth if we are going to have Carter and Wilson/Jackson at DE and McIntosh/Blades at OLB we are gonna get run on. Daniels may help but I have my doubts about him staying healthy at his age coming off a torn knee.

Then we have the right side of the offensive line of Thomas and Heyer. Worrisome. Great point above about the lack of depth. This team is going to be hovering right around .500 again.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | March 8, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Here is my take on who we should draft.(Not in any specific order)
1. Brian Orakpo-DE
I read that the skins talked to him and want to use him at LB/DE.
2. Andre Smith-OT
3. Rey Maualuga-LB (The more I read on this guy,the more I like.)
4. Brian Cushing-LB
5. Michael Oher-OT
6. James Laurinaitis-LB
7. Chris(Beany)Wells-RB
Now say what you will ,but I think CP and Wells would make us the backfield in football.

Posted by: rcjordan44 | March 8, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Why are the REDSKINS showing no interest in signing MATT STOVER???

1) Suisham sucks.....
2) Stover lives in the area and moving from the Ravens to the REDSKINS would be seamless
3) The guy can still kick.

For the right price....why NOT bring him in??

Posted by: goosedude | March 8, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

'...but I think CP and Wells would make us the backfield in football...'

Posted by: rcjordan44


I like every guy on the list except Wells.

You draft him and then ask, "What do we do with Betts/Cartwright?"

Do you want a roster with four backs-Portis/Wells/Betts/Cartwright-which also means you have to cut one of the midget special teamers brought in to add speed.

Wells would make us unwell.

And who blocks for him, btw?

We have to hope the tackle trio is there for the choosing.

Moving Samuels to rt would facilitate starting a rookie alongside Dockery at lt and immediately prove bookend pass/run blocking.

Maybe the linebacker choice come with the 3rd pick.

Any thoughts on who that guy might be?

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 8, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

“Now say what you will ,but I think CP and Wells would make us the backfield in football.”

Vinny and Dan think this way. The focus should be on DRAFTING LINEMAN THAT CAN OPEN HOLES FOR THE RUNNING GAME. Having the best running backs does you no good without a line that can block.

Posted by: all_star_0013 | March 8, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the linebacker choice come with the 3rd pick.

Any thoughts on who that guy might be?

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 8, 2009 11:25 AM
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Walter Football updated their mock on Friday.

#80 Washington Redskins: Cody Brown, OLB, Connecticut
As projected, Marcus Washington was a cap casualty. That's fine; the Redskins needed an upgrade here anyway.

They have us picking Andre Smith at 13, and Oher going at pick 16. I think I'd rather have Oher.

Also, they now have Mack at 32. If a trade back was available, I'd love to see us get him and use the extra pick on an LB.

There are still going to be some pretty fine prospects in the 3rd round.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 8, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Andre Smith probably will drop to #13...the problem is, are his effort issues and flakiness aberrations or the norm? He can have all the potential in the world, but if he won't show up, literally or figuratively, doesn't make sense to go with him.

Also, I think combine stats are overrated. Look at the film: If Maualuga outplays Cushing, then he's better. If Cushing outplays Maualuga, he's better.

Posted by: Cavalier83 | March 8, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I agree with your evaluation of LB's. Choose the one who plays best in games, not at the combine.

But that applies to ASmith also. He was a beast at Alabama. If he drops to us, I think we have to take him.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 8, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Cindy Boren: Let's see. Cap room? Check. Plenty of dough? Check. Need at right tackle? Check. An airplane that's gassed and sitting on the tarmac at Dulles? Check. Now all they need to do is decide that Willis is the right guy. *****

I guess Cindy failed to consider Willis has his own mind and chose the Seahawks over the Skins.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | March 8, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the FO if Daniels signs for cheap. He isn't, hasn't been, nor will be a flashy player putting up double digit sacks year after year. He is a beast against the run; that's his job and what he does best. Let the young, fast guys spell him on 3rd down to get after the QB. A strong DL will help hide deficiencies in the LB group.

For all the haters who say to stop signing old guys, you have to remember that this team needs several off-seasons to get the lines younger. Evans would have been a younger player, but his game is just like Daniels, and once JLA releases contract details, I bet Daniels costs less than Evans. The DL is pretty young right now, but the OL isn't. The first pick should be an OL--no doubt about it.

Posted by: BigE44 | March 8, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Reinhart is the "wildcard". If he takes huge steps this year, it makes our line better and deeper.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 8, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT'S OFFENSIVE KEYS TO THE SEASON:

1) Depth on O-line

2) More of a "2 back system with more passing out of the backfield"

3) Kelly, Thomas and/or Davis becoming a legitimate offensive threat.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 8, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"We need to think of a good name for Haynesworth, any ideas"

How about
1 King Albert
2 The Hunter
3 Fat Albert
4 The Bully

Posted by: abxinc | March 8, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

From the Washington Times

Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato just confirmed an ESPN report that offensive tackle Ray WIllis, Washington's first free agent visitor, has chosen to re-sign with Seattle. Willis, a backup during Redskins coach Jim Zorn's final three seasons as the Seahawks' quarterbacks coach, started 10 games in 2008 and would've battled Stephon Heyer to be the heir apparent to aging Redskins right tackle Jon Jansen, 33.
Cerrato also denied a report that Arizona Cardinals offensive lineman Elton Brown visited the Redskins last week. Cerrato said that as of now, no free agents are scheduled to visit this week.
- David Elfin

Posted by: TWISI | March 8, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

First, why does anyone think that a 36 year old DE coming off a season ending injury is going to help? In the NFL skills tend to go quickly and the older you get the quicker they go.

Second, why does anyone think the Skins are going to draft anything other than a QB with their first whether they trade down or not?

Look, in 2010 players are required to have 6 years of service to be eligible for FA. Campbells contract is up at the end of this season and the Skins made no moves to extend it in 2008. Other restrictions in 2010 (limits on salary increases, contract lengths, etc) and the fact that the CBA expires after 2010 present the possibility that Campbell sits out a year to see how things shake out (after all, he would have no contract and no obligation to play). If they had re-done the contract in 2008 they might have avoided the issues in 2010.

The Redskins are certainly aware of this and FA QBs don't come cheap. But a rookie could come cheap if picked late in the first or early in the second. Oh, and no, Colt Brennen not the solution nor is Collins.

How likely is this? It should be pretty obvious that its better than 50/50. A rookie contract would meet the 2010 critera and allow for a year of sitting on the bench learning the game. He could then be ready to go if the Campbell situation is not resolved.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | March 8, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Second, why does anyone think the Skins are going to draft anything other than a QB with their first whether they trade down or not?

What would be the name of this QB the Redskins would draft with their 1st pick?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 8, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth nicknames

"BEASTMASTER"

"MONEYSWORTH"- (previous poster)

Posted by: rickyroge | March 8, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Things we don't know but the Redskins coaching staff does: Jansen and Thomas, each a year further away from their injuries, may be looking better and could project to better years than 2008. Rainhard, working in the off-season with Buges, could be looking like he's ready to step in if Thomas should falter. Heyer's probably a known quantity at this point.

With the signing of Dockery the Skins interior line could be set for '09. Re-signing Kendall could bolster it further. The only thing on O we're talking about is a possible starter at RT, though the braintrust might think they can do with what is there for one more year.

Or if they're thinking longterm they may be thinking of taking a tackle in round 3. The like to take OLmen in the 3rd. Dockery and Rainhard were both taken in the 3rd. It's a tendency that goes back to Beathard.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 8, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

How about a combination- Beastworth.

And to elkiii, um what? First off, what other option would you propose for DE at this point? Unless a high draft we don't have a lot available. Drafting a quarterback high right now is the stupidest idea yet. We have much more pressing needs on offense right now. That drafted quarterback ain't gonna be worth crap if he's crumpled in a heap 10 yards behind the line. And although you dpon't think Colt is the long term solution I have a feeling that certain people in a much better situation to judge than yourself think otherwise. I'm guessing you didn't do that extensive scouting nor are you sitting there in practices. I always have to laugh at you morons that come on here and say that someone definately is or isn't an answer when you really have very lttle clue what goes on outside your own home.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 8, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth nicknames

"BEASTMASTER"

"MONEYSWORTH"- (previous poster)

Posted by: rickyroge | March 8, 2009 1:23 PM

Nicknames are earned, not bestowed. Remember Archabingus? I`d like to see how the guy plays in a few games before we put a title on him.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 8, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Skins draft Orakpo....the guy looks FIERCE.

BUT....his stock has risen since the Combine and most likely he will be taken in the top 10 picks. Also, I truly believe Vinny will do his darndest to trade down for more picks.

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 8, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Also, I truly believe Vinny will do his darndest to trade down for more picks.

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 8, 2009 2:26 PM

I don't. They need #13 for a big plash. There's no big plash at #20.

I think he will trade next year's #1 for a pick in the second round, probably with New England.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 8, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

They need #13 for a big plash. There's no big plash at #20.

I think he will trade next year's #1 for a pick in the second round, probably with New England.

Posted by: talent_evaluator |

No, if we're talking big plash, then next year's #1 and this year's #1 will be used to move up in 1st and also get a #2 this year.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 8, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

No, if we're talking big plash, then next year's #1 and this year's #1 will be used to move up in 1st and also get a #2 this year.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 8, 2009 2:47 PM

No one will take that trade, plus Skins probably won't have the money to sign anyone much higher than #13. Most of the guys that are being mentioned here at #13 would constitute a big plash.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 8, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

While mack is a very good player, the best at his position, I would much rather see unger in DC. Our offense is based on pass blocking and stretch plays, and unger is much more athletic than mack is and if Buges can coach him up a bit he would be a great blocker in the 2nd level and really good in the pass game. he would also be more od a 2nd round pick so we can still pick an LB late 1st (Clay Mathews) if we do trade back

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 8, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

From Walter Football, the bible for NFL insiders:

"Jacksonville was burnt by last year's awful Drayton Florence signing. Florence was recently cut, indicating that the team will be hunting for a starting corner in free agency or the top few rounds of the 2009 NFL Draft." Geese. A team burnt bad by a DB signing. Good thing it could never happen here.

"The Raiders ranked 31st in run defense in 2008. What happened to those high-priced defensive tackles? Well, Tommy Kelly simply stole money from Al Davis, while Terdell Sands' greatest accomplishment last season was punching Pro Bowl punter Shane Lechler on a plane. It's amazing what $67.5 million can buy you these days." It appears Undead Al has left the Skins FO in the dust.

"With Curry off the board, this pick has to be Brian Orakpo. Cleveland simply couldn't get to the quarterback in 2008. The team managed 17 sacks, and no player had more than four. This really needs to change quickly." Them, the Bengals and the Chiefs were the only teams wuss in the sack department than the Skins

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 8, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

AntonChigurh I'm not following the point behind your post.

Posted by: TWISI | March 8, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

More from Wally World:

"The Chargers have a huge hole at right tackle; current starter Jeromey Clary gave up 6.5 sacks and was whistled for six penalties in 2008. Oher would be a great upgrade over Clary." Someone actually sucked wuss than Jansen!

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 8, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

wuss = worse ?

Posted by: TWISI | March 8, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Daniels is a beast that has played for Greg Blache more than any one on the team. With Daniels we got our every down guy at LE, allowing Wilson or Jackson a chance to emerge as the speed guy.

If you put Arakpo, Cushing, Matthews, Laurinitus, or even Blades at SSLB we should maintain or better our 4th best D.

The crucial losses were to Giants, Ravens, Steelers because they had better defenses. We swept Philly cause we had the better D.

CAPITOL DEFENSE!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 8, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Of cuss.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 8, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth names

Stompsworth, Painsworth, The Secretary of Defense, ALbominable Snowman, AL and the 12 Stomp Program...

how about....Sir Albert of Haynesworth or just Sir

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 8, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

AntonChigurh I'm not following the point behind your post.

Posted by: TWISI | March 8, 2009 3:43 PM

Without schadenfreude, there'd be no freude at all?

(AKA Poor Raiduhs fans have an even worse F.O. to cope with than we do.)
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 8, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Second, why does anyone think the Skins are going to draft anything other than a QB with their first whether they trade down or not?

What would be the name of this QB the Redskins would draft with their 1st pick?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 8, 2009 1:18 PM |

I'll give you a hint. His surname begins with S and he played for a school whose team at some point during the 2008 season was rated #1.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 8, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Cletus
The Stomp Thing

Nicknames are earned. Don't overthink it.

Posted by: SMACK1 | March 8, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I'll give you a hint. His surname begins with S and he played for a school whose team at some point during the 2008 season was rated #1.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 8, 2009 4:06 PM
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OK, I don't think the Skins will be drafting Stafford or Sanchez.

They're both going to be off the board by number 13, and we can't afford a speculative QB choice with our #1 pick.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 8, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

thunder

'....There are still going to be some pretty fine prospects in the 3rd round...'


Which is why I'm wondering if surrendering a high pick from 2010, let's say a 1 and a player (Davis?), to get two picks this year- a 2 and a 3, is a good idea or possibility.

Such a move then gives the team two third round picks to go with the one it already has and the two it doesn't have. That allows the team to draft:

1. rt

2. c/g

3. slb
dt

4. cb or te

5. wlb

7. special teamer

But of course, this is all a fantasy.

But if it was a reality, it would fill a couple of holes.


Posted by: MistaMoe | March 8, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Man, it's hard to believe that people think it would be smart to draft anything other than an Olineman if we stay at #13. Clearly a de or slb would be great but look at our Oline. Samuels and Dock are the only two guys that project as still in their prime players we have who can play at a high level. Our Oline last year was a turnstile on the way to disrupting JC who had no receivers to throw to. Can't win that way.

Posted by: thinker11 | March 8, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Beepage...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 8, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

talent_evaluator:

Rightous. Earned not bestowed. Let's see who he devours first before cristening him with a stupid moniker.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 8, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

i remember a buzz aout Daniels last year, tha he had dropped a couple pounds and looked alot more explosive in OTAs, and i also remember 4 sacks against Dallas. He is a class pro who always seems to come up big when we need him. Last year (gibbs last) at almost every game i went when it was still summer, i would always go about 2 min before half time to steal a bag of ice from the cart, and everytime i went i remember hearing Daniels or fletcher get a turnover right before half. He is one of my favorite redskins, and he just overpowers people.

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 8, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Coming from Hawaii, I hope that when we Jason Campbell play this year, we don't see the same deer in the headlights that we see every year for the last 5 years. If we do, I think it's time for Colt. This kid is like Kurt Warner, He reads defenses quickly and gets the ball to the receivers. He scans the field and has a quick release and is ACCURATE! I watched him at the QB challenge before he was drafted and he was more accurate than Flacco, Matt Ryan, and all the other soon to be drafted QB's. Take my word, this kid is GOOD!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | March 9, 2009 1:43 AM | Report abuse

I like Daniels. Sure, he's old. But he's also savvy, mean, ridiculously strong and can play two positions.

Truth is, I think he's better than Evans.

Plus he can tutor your other DLs.

Got nothing against Renaldo Wynn, either.

But they need to draft or sign a younger horse.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 10, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

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