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Redskins minicamp: What did we learn?

The Redskins broke camp on Sunday afternoon and will now take a week to catch their collective breath before returning to Redskins Park for their first series of OTAs (offseason training activities). The team has six OTA sessions scheduled for this month (May 17-19, May 24-26).

So what did we learn during this minicamp and what will coaches be studying between now and then? Well, let's go over a few notes from the weekend:

-- Players are continuing to recover from injuries. Both receiver Santana Moss and Phillip Daniels recently underwent offseason arthroscopic surgery, but both expect to be back before long. Mike Shanahan said he hoped linebacker Andre Carter (biceps) and nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu (Achilles) would be ready for the team's June 1 OTA. And he said he hopes Jeremy Jarmon (knee) would be ready in time for training camp.

-- Barring another signing or a trade, the starting offensive line heading into training camp will likely be Trent Williams, Derrick Dockery, Mike Williams and Artis Hicks. The team had a lot of internal discussions about whether it should start Trent Williams off slowly, but coaches ultimately think he'll learn more by being thrown right in the fire this way. Coaches have also been impressed with Mike Williams's offseason commitment to the team's conditioning program.

-- It will take some time for the rookies to fully adjust. Trent Williams was honest when describing his first snap, noting that he was still in his stance well after everyone else had moved into action. It was a funny anecdote, but no one would be laughing if he was saying the same thing in August. But his position coach, offensive coordinator, head coach and quarterback all noticed improvement during the course of the minicamp.

-- There could be some competition at safety. While LaRon Landry looks to see a lot of time at strong safety, the free safety position could be an intriguing battle. Both Kareem Moore and Reed Doughty saw time with the first-team unit during minicamp. Chris Horton is still recovering from a toe ligament injury and was again limited at this minicamp. Once he's 100 percent, his name will surely be in the mix, as well.

-- Usually when position groups run through drills, seniority dictates the order. It was interesting watching the defensive linemen this weekend. Among the deep group of linemen, Kedric Golston was the only linemen practicing who was with the team prior to 2010.

-- The Redskins had a deep group of receivers on-hand at training camp. Though Moss was unable to go, there were still nine other receivers under contract. If Joey Galloway has lost a step, the naked eye can't tell. The team also had at least four others in town for tryouts: Brandon Banks (Kansas State), D.J. Hord (Northern Iowa), Shay Hodge (Mississippi) and Derrick Townsel (Murray State). It shouldn't surprise if there was a bit more minor shuffling at this position before training camp.

-- Tracee Hamilton did a good job this morning explaining how Donovan McNabb has really grabbed the leadership reins. He leads in much different manner than Jason Campbell and his more vocal style has drawn rave reviews from teammates. He's hanging out with his linemen and receivers, while still reaching out to defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth. Before training camp opens, he plans to bring some receivers to Arizona to workout with him.

-- If there's any drama surrounding the trio of running backs, it's yet to surface publicly. Larry Johnson, Clinton Portis and Willie Parker all seem comfortable with their roles thus far. Each of the three feels as though he has something to prove, which can only be a good thing for the Redskins' offense.

-- The return specialists won't be decided for awhile. And judging by some of the players who lined up to return during minicamp, there will be plenty of names in the discussion, possibly including receiver Bobby Wade, running back Ryan Torain, cornerback Justin Tryon, receiver Terrence Austin and cornerback Phillip Buchanon. Moss and DeAngelo Hall could always considered down the road, too.

By Rick Maese  |  May 9, 2010; 3:48 PM ET
 
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Comments

Posted by: frak | May 9, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: frak | May 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"What did we learn?"

And there's only one area that perplexes: wide receiver.

You'd think after this much time, the team could look to both Kelly/Thomas, and feel that together, they form a nice threat opposite Moss.

We're talking about a 2nd and 3rd rounders.

After 2 seasons, you wonder if they impress enough to allow the team to feel comfortable with what they bring to the table as possible starters in the wake of a Moss injury.

I bet they don't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"Tracee Hamilton did a good job this morning explaining how Donovan McNabb has really grabbed the leadership reins. He leads in much different manner than Jason Campbell and his more vocal style has drawn rave reviews from teammates."

This is all well and good, but it's sad to know the professional ball players on this team need yet ANOTHER person shouting at them to get them motivated. Head coach ain't enough? Position coach ain't enough? Personal pride ain't enough?

Why do these clowns need someone else being vocal with them and babying them to "lead" them to do their jobs?

Posted by: Alan4 | May 9, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes a player is loaded with whale-like potential and just needs some kinda spark or tabasco...

Posted by: frak | May 9, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

OTA stands for Organized Team Activities, not Offseason Training Activities.

Posted by: SkinsFan62 | May 9, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Use your head! Brandon Banks is the fastest man we have. Why didn't Rock break any for TDs last year? Speed is a need to succeed in this league!

Posted by: iubiquity | May 9, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

OTA stands for Organized Team Activities, not Offseason Training Activities.

Posted by: SkinsFan62 |

lol didn't even notice... good heads up. Rick Maese! You'd think a man in his position would know that.

Posted by: iubiquity | May 9, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

what did we learn? not much.

what can we guess? lots!

injuries and recovery thus far don't seem to be a big deal. Moss being scoped and cleaned is about right for the mileage he's had. Jarmon's ACL and Kemoeatu's Achilles tendon appear to be the worst of the lot.

the O-line doesn't inspire much confidence. improved... but the proposed starting lineup is a mixed bag, with talent (such as it is) dropping off steeply from there. can't fix everything at once. at least we're making progress.

"It will take some time for the rookies to fully adjust." well, duh... although some never do.

Moore versus Doughty at FS, possibly with Horton in the mix at some point. guess I'm ok with that for now... not that I have much choice in the matter.

turnover on D-line makes sense given the new scheme. unless someone bites on the bait, AH would make us much better. just have my doubts that he'll be here for the start of the season. enough said on that topic until he shows up or is traded.

never thought Galloway and Wade were being brought in just to teach Thomas and Kelly. the geezers have a chance to play, and that doesn't say much about the confidence that Shanahan and McNabb have in the youngsters.

glad the QB is more of a vocal leader... but not in a d!ckish sort of way. whatever you thought of Soup (and not the chunky kind), he never really did take charge.

fine with the three-headed RB for now. however, a developmental prospect in the pipeline would be nice. guessing one of them is cut before the opener.

after the discussion a few threads back, intrigued by the idea of Brandon Banks as a return specialist, if only for the novelty of having someone so small. don't think it will happen, though.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Very nice moo. Agreed on all counts.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

With regards to D. Jackson's comments:

I was always taught that if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. What was he suppose to say?? NOTHING
Maybe he could have said something like, "we are sorry to see him go but we are excited at the future with Corn Kolb." He didn't have to say what he said. He is certainly entitled to his opinion but discretion is the better part of valor.

What did you here our recievers say about Soup?? That he was a great guy and they wish him luck. That simple.
Know what I said? " Thank god we don't have to go through another season of 5 yd screen passes on frickin' 3rd and 7!"

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

moodlymoodlymoo

"...never thought Galloway and Wade were being brought in just to teach Thomas and Kelly...the geezers have a chance to play, and that doesn't say much about...the youngsters..."


Agreed.

Marko Mitchell's release really signalled something deeper: the youth behind Moss ain't all that, despite the size and speed labels.

You'd think 3 year receiver who were top picks would inpsire confidence.

Now, Joey Galloway is positioned to be more than what ARE never was: a capable vet opposite Moss.

We've posted this for a few days, and it suggests the depth of failure the draft of '08--10 picks, remember--is.

So far, only C Horton/F Davis have been the only picks of that litter.

C Rhinehart has emerged to be a fine late night d.u.i. pizza delivery guy.

And if neither Kelly nor Thomas take it to the next level this year with an improved passer, that draft by itself will be seen as the final nail in Vinny Cerrato's coffin as redskins' personnel guy.

Thing is, even though he's gone, I still want to cremate him.

With a blow torch.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

All along I thought that OTA stood for Ohio Transit Authority.

Posted by: randysbailin | May 9, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

With regards to D. Jackson's comments

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 6:11 PM

can understand the temptation to mouth off when you're paid big money to play a violent sport where showboating and trash-talking is pretty standard stuff.

sort of like RI, where we get paid no money to post on a violent forum where showboating and trash-talking is pretty standard stuff.

...but I much prefer players who are classy. part of why I liked Soup, even though his play was certainly disappointing.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Art Monk was a good example of getting the job done and keeping your mouth shut.
Met him year before last outside the stadium. Great Guy.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Now, Joey Galloway is positioned to be more than what ARE never was: a capable vet opposite Moss.

And if neither Kelly nor Thomas take it to the next level this year with an improved passer, that draft by itself will be seen as the final nail in Vinny Cerrato's coffin as redskins' personnel guy.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 6:13 PM

not sold on Galloway, although he has a chance to compete. my opinion is that all the talk about bringing him in as a mentor was misguided... he'll stay or be cut on the merits of the case he can make in camp as a player.

if I had to guess -- don't have to, but will anyway -- Thomas stays and Kelly goes.

Cerrato should be judged on his overall body of work. unfortunately, it speaks for itself, regardless of DT or MK.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

The receivers already have a mentor in K. McCardell. I will be happy if Galloway produces that veteran reliability of getting open beyond the sticks on 3rd down.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I believe if Galloway makes the team it'll be a travesty! A waste of a roster spot for the wrong reasons. I was injured just typing his name!

Apparently Allen wants to carry on the tradition of his pops! We need youth, spirit and exuberance.. not injury prone fossils, Medicare applicants and assisted living shriveled old fogeys.

Posted by: iubiquity | May 9, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

"...not sold on Galloway,.."


If not Galloway, some vet type receiver who knows how to get open and make himself relevant opposite of S Moss is needed.

If not Galloway, we endorse the idea of using F Davis as a big receiver.

You'd think, again, that either Kelly/Thomas would show they are ready to be that 'guy'.

I wonder if they do.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

...that draft by itself will be seen as the final nail in Vinny Cerrato's coffin as redskins' personnel guy.

Thing is, even though he's gone, I still want to cremate him.

With a blow torch.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 6:13 PM

Moe, if you're into coffins and stuff, you might want to get together with that Nosferatu dude that's been posting lately:

http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/nosferatu.jpg

his role in the original vampire flick from 1922 (the first cinematic adaptation of Bram Stoker's novel) is the one that started it all.

many years ago (1992?) was able to catch a cool showing of this silent film with the Alloy Orchestra providing the live music. looked online, and they're still doing it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asl-U7VLAnY

the scene at the 41 second mark is an all-time classic.

like Cerrato, the undead can never die.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

westjr.

"I will be happy if Galloway produces that veteran reliability of getting open beyond the sticks on 3rd down."

That's the job, usually, for the 3rd receiver on the depth chart.

And if not Galloway, B Stokely might be availiable via cut or trade.

In any event, no team that drafts two receivers in rounds 2 and 3 should even be contemplating this issue.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

If not Galloway, we endorse the idea of using F Davis as a big receiver.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 7:27 PM

oops. we must have had some strange cross-continental vibe yet ended up posting on different topics at the same time.

sorry, but don't see Davis as a receiver at all... pass-catching TE that can create matchup problems, yes.

creative play calling might help (no swinging gate please!), but we need a stronger group of receivers all around, and Davis isn't the solution there.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins were sucking before the Snyder and Cerrato era.

IT's all about the QB's baby...it's all about the QB play.

I'm exited for McNabb and AM glad to hear he's taking charge.

I think I'm the only poster who believes a QB can make an offensive line appear worse than they really are.

I also think a QB can make an offensive line appear better than they really are. Tony Romo is the perfect example of that. He has unbelievable pocket presence.

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

You will see a different Thomas and Kelly this year because there will be someone capable of getting the ball to them.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

moodlymoodlymoo


"...but don't see Davis as a receiver at all... pass-catching TE that can create matchup problems, yes."


Davis arrived to USC as a highly recruited wr prospect out of high school.

Then he put on weight.

When you look around the league and see Witten, Clark, and Gates, you see TE their value is not in blocking, but as big receivers who defy and create matchup issues.

In Cooley, we have a traditional blocking/receiving TE.

In Davis, we might have someone who can operate on a whole other level.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins were sucking before the Snyder and Cerrato era.

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 7:42 PM

hey Vicc... we're still sucking exactly 11 years later. doesn't that say something about Snyder and Cerrato?

owner and GM have a role in picking the personnel, whether directly or indirectly.

agreed that QB play matters, quite a lot... but are you seriously putting the entire deal on one player?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

When writing about the staters at OL why did Jason omit the starting center? Am I forgetting something.

Posted by: sjp879 | May 9, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

In Davis, we might have someone who can operate on a whole other level.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 7:53 PM

see your point, but just don't see it happening. big difference between WR prospect out of high school versus the level of specialization demanded in the NFL. sometimes players get shuffled around to different positions, but this seems like a stretch.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Yanks v. Sawx is on.

I'm out.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 9, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the sign-off there Moe. I'm headed out as well, calves are up from nap and I need to work on some dinner.

cheers all... catch you cows later.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

No, I can't put the success of an NFL team on one player.

But when I look at the three playoff appearances of the Redskins since '91, I see that QB play was the difference.

We've had top 10 defenses, HOF coaches, 1000yd rushers, and 1000yd receivers.

Johnson had a Pro Bowl year in '99
Brunell had one of his best years in '05
Collins played lights out for end of '07

Realistically, if your QB plays well, your team plays well...IMO

There are always exceptions as long as we remember they are only exceptions.

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm the only poster who believes a QB can make an offensive line appear worse than they really are.

I also think a QB can make an offensive line appear better than they really are. Tony Romo is the perfect example of that. He has unbelievable pocket presence.

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 7:42 PM |

I don't think you're the only person that believes that but you are the only person gay enough to slurp a Dallas Brokeback on a Skins blog.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 9, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

F the Yankees

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ scamp

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

F the Yankees

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 8:10 PM

Co-sign.

And in addition..

F Dallas
F Duke
F Penguins

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 9, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

double co-sign, triple stamp, no erasies

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

but you are the only person gay enough to slurp a Dallas Brokeback on a Skins blog.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 9, 2010 8:10 PM

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*chuckle*

I just hate how lucky the Cowpies were to have just stumbled on him.

He's been a winner ever since he stepped on the field during a time when Dallas was struggling to find their next franchise QB, post Aikman era--hence their lack of success during that period.

If Romo hadn't gotten injured for a 4 game stretch in '08 where they went 1-3, the Cowpies would have made the playoffs every year he was a starter.

I have no doubt the Redskins will post a winning record with McNabb starting. He might miss 3 or 4 games though.

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

McNabb will have a running game to help him out this year and he wont have to do it all, so maybe he will stay healthy.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why anyone would predict a clear favorite to win the NFC East....

All teams in our division have issues, but I find it interesting how the Eagles always get the benefit of the doubt when they have a QB who's had two good games against bad teams.

Posted by: rickyroge | May 9, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why anyone would predict a clear favorite to win the NFC East....

All teams in our division have issues, but I find it interesting how the Eagles always get the benefit of the doubt when they have a QB who's had two good games against bad teams.

Posted by: rickyroge | May 9, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

F the Yankees

And in addition..

F Dallas
F Duke

Posted by: Diesel44 |


Thank You, Thank You, Thank You! Wholeheartedly!

Posted by: iubiquity | May 9, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

More specifically....

F George Steinbrenner
F Jerry Jones

Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

What did you here our recievers say about Soup?? That he was a great guy and they wish him luck. That simple.
Know what I said? " Thank god we don't have to go through another season of 5 yd screen passes on frickin' 3rd and 7!"


Posted by: westjr88 | May 9, 2010 6:11 PM

Or about him having to learn his 8th offense in 8 years or whatever it is!!

Posted by: scottmando | May 9, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

When writing about the staters at OL why did Jason omit the starting center? Am I forgetting something.

Posted by: sjp879 | May 9, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

We are going to a hybrid 3-4. 3-4 on D, 4-3 on O.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 9, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Rick M. and SkinsFan62:

OTA stands for Optional Training Activities. I know this is true because Albert Haynesworth told me.

Posted by: SNCinDC | May 9, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Rick M. and SkinsFan62:

OTA stands for Optional Training Activities. I know this is true because Albert Haynesworth told me.

Posted by: SNCinDC | May 9, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

McNabb will have a running game to help him out this year and he wont have to do it all, so maybe he will stay healthy.

Posted by: westjr88

Still nervous about that O-line, though..The Perennial Redskin Question..Besides "Where's the quarterback??"..Both Davis and D. Thomas showed bright moments of promise last year..Thomas had a great game against New Orleans..Who knows if we won that game (as we should have) what the outcome of the Super Bowl mighta been, if Favre had a homefield NFC championship game..Davis is a hard-to-place tweener, like Mike Williams..Hopefully Shanahan knows how to best use him, but Skins seem too deep at TE anyway, seems like someone's got to go..maybe not

Posted by: frak | May 9, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

People should be concerned that Trent Williams may not be ready for the 1st weekend. That comment about still being in his stance really isn't funny as it shows how completely unprepared he was

Posted by: Bious | May 9, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

When writing about the staters at OL why did Jason omit the starting center? Am I forgetting something.

Posted by: sjp879

LOL.... remember playing neighborhood football, when there wasn't really a center - so in one motion you'd kind of hike the ball btwn your legs, turn and catch it yourself? remember that? maybe that's shanny's new offense. there's NO CENTER! revolutionary....we could have 3 tight ends!

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 9, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

But me gotta go..Happy Cheladas and Hail!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjVqrzd99VA

Posted by: frak | May 9, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

but Skins seem too deep at TE anyway, seems like someone's got to go..maybe not

Posted by: frak | May 9, 2010 8:52 PM


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I've voiced my approval for trading one of them(mostly Cooley), BUT only if we receive appropriate compensation.

I wouldn't trade Cooley for less than a 2nd or a 3rd+6throunder.

I just can't wait too see those playaction bootlegs that Shanny's offense is known for. Cooley or Davis will have a huge year!

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

People should be concerned that Trent Williams may not be ready for the 1st weekend. That comment about still being in his stance really isn't funny as it shows how completely unprepared he was

Posted by: Bious | May 9, 2010 8:56 PM


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I'm not concerned. A huge contingent of Redskin fanz wanted Okung at no. 4.

I'm happy with Trent and I'd a been happy with Okung as well.

Trent's rookie mistakes will be used as fodder and Wapo hits during the pissing contest between the Pro-Trent W. and Pro-Russell O. crowd

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

last

Posted by: Vicc | May 9, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

People should be concerned that Trent Williams may not be ready for the 1st weekend. That comment about still being in his stance really isn't funny as it shows how completely unprepared he was

Posted by: Bious | May 9, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

No rookie is prepared for the NFL on the first snap of his first minicamp. We've got 4 months, 4 preseason games and a lot of practices until the first regular season game. I won't start worrying until he's getting beaten in preseason games, if that happens.

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 9, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

No rookie is prepared for the NFL on the first snap of his first minicamp. We've got 4 months, 4 preseason games and a lot of practices until the first regular season game. I won't start worrying until he's getting beaten in preseason games, if that happens.

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 9, 2010 10:43 PM

just a quick check-in, late by my standards and more so for east coast types.

agreed on the first two sentences... but Williams will get beaten in pre-season games, and even during the season.

the question is how often and how badly.

no player in the NFL is 100% perfect. the game is too competitive for that... nonetheless, I'm fully expecting that he will be a huge improvement over what we had in the aftermath of Samuels going down.

think that was your point, so I'm not saying anything new here.

g'night all.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

What did we learn?"

And there's only one area that perplexes: wide receiver.

You'd think after this much time, the team could look to both Kelly/Thomas, and feel that together, they form a nice threat opposite Moss.

We're talking about a 2nd and 3rd rounders.

After 2 seasons, you wonder if they impress enough to allow the team to feel comfortable with what they bring to the table as possible starters in the wake of a Moss injury.

I bet they don't.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Not sure what you mean mm. They were both second round picks and the entire defense (except maybe the cb's) has to be the focus of concern.

The receivers we have will do fine. We will probably end up with two veterans and a project for the practice squad; no reason to fret.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 10, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

... in addition to moss, thomas and kelley.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 10, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Moe, if you're into coffins and stuff, you might want to get together with that Nosferatu dude that's been posting lately:

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 9, 2010 7:27 PM

Ha! :)

Posting more lately, yes. Though I have been here since 2002-2003. Though I sometimes go for long periods of time between posting, depending on what is going on. Granted, there is a lot to post about lately since Shanny and Co. took over, the draft, of course and the total reshaping of the team.

Sounds like a good start so far this off-season. But the O-Line is still very much a work in progress. The starters are a step up from last season, but still not what it needs to be and the depth looks to be shaky at best. I assume there will be a signing or two by training camp. If only for low tier depth.

Agreed on the wideouts. Letting Marko go, bringing in several new bodies, old and new, shows an obvious lack of confidence in where the coaching staff thinks the #2 and #3 WR's are at this point. As for Galloway, he can still contribute if he can just stay healthy. That has been his problem for his whole career, When healthy, he has been a productive guy, but you cannot trust him to last 16 games. So, a crapshoot all the way with him.

As for safety, while it would be nice to have Sharper, the personnel there is not too shabby. A Doughty/Horton/Moore combo at FS is not too bad. I really hope that Horton can bounce back from that injury and regain his '08 form. He was playing at a Defensive Rookie of the Year pace the first half of '08. Then he had the sophomore slump and then got hurt.

As for Nosferatu, I have used that as my online handle for the past 20 years. I also have a long-running fansite at http://www.nosferatuscoffin.com in case you are interested in learning more.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | May 10, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Best thing that could of happened to T Williams is that he got shown how much he needs to work and learn to get it done at the NFL level. His quotes indicate that he gets the message.

I get very a strong feeling that Rak, Dock, and BMW are going to ensure he gets it done. Its all good.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 10, 2010 2:28 AM | Report abuse

I think getting too down on Kelly and/or Thomas, as some of said, is a little premature at this point. They showed some promise at the end of last year, both posting 100 yd games when thrown the ball often.

They were both injured for the majority of their rookie seasons (most likely due to poor preparation).....and I can't blame them for last years overall performances, a lot was wrong with the team, and that's an understatement.

That being said, I have no problem with Galloway and Wade being present to push them. This could be Thomas and Kelly's last real opportunity to take a big step in their respective careers and adding some veteran talent that's seen it all, makes a lot of sense in a bunch of ways. It's experience vs. raw athletic ability and may the best men win. Period. Either way, I feel the passing game will be much improved this year, regardless of who starts.

Posted by: BEAUD101 | May 10, 2010 2:31 AM | Report abuse

I'm far from a fan of his, but if you haven't read the Wise column on AH it's worth a read. Looks like it's not just the media or RI hamsters calling out AH, it's his teammates too:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/09/AR2010050903014.html

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 10, 2010 5:54 AM | Report abuse

Great article, Brownwood. Really sticks it to the blog riff-raff who have been defending this guy. "Why should he play? He only talked to 4-3 teams. That was his deal. They should have hired coaches who will bring out his best!" 11 guys on defense, and we should design the defense around the fattest, laziest, most immature guy on the field.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 10, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

Looks like we at least agree on something here, b-b. Guys like pfunk always have an excuse for why this guy can cut corners while everyone else works their asses off to get this team's fortunes turned around. The only fortunes AH is worried about is the mint he's being paid to stay home and eat bon-bons.

Hopefully his days here are numbered.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 10, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse

The difference between AH and the other players is AH will get paid to play while the other players are playing to get paid. For AH the game check is the same amount whether he practices with the team or not.
Is that what’s meant by a contract performance clause?

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | May 10, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

Or is it the lack of an incentive clause?

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | May 10, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

it doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me when the "this is our starting Offensive Line going into the season" has only 4 names.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | May 10, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Not much has not said about our cornerbacks. But I'm really worried about it. I fear it will be our weakness on defense. Am I the only one thinking that?
I don't trust D. Hall, he talks too much BS and I don't think he can back it up. Carlos Rogers is soft, he gets burnt too often and he can't make INTs. Besides them, I don't even know who are the other CBs.
Your thoughts?

Posted by: tp33 | May 10, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that JR was saying our OL was going w/o a center! What, DMac was just going up to the line to grab the ball and backpedal?
Sheesh!

Posted by: Sirius2 | May 10, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"Realistically, if your QB plays well, your team plays well...IMO There are always exceptions as long as we remember they are only exceptions.Posted by: Vicc"

LOL tell that to Archie Manning. He was the exception for a whole lot of seasons.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Wow, our starting O-line will only consist of guards and tackles? Talk about a novel offense. Kyle Shanahan must really be a genius. Imagine the confusion when defenses line up against the Redskins and there is no center! How will the offense initiate a play?? I cannot wait to see how it works

Posted by: NickFairfax | May 11, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

OTA = "Organized Team Activities", not "Offseason Training Activities".


"Barring another signing or a trade, the starting offensive line heading into training camp will likely be Trent Williams, Derrick Dockery, Mike Williams and Artis Hicks"

......uhhh....aren't there 5 linemen on an O-line? Did we forget about the guy who snaps the ball?


C'mon Jason Reid...wake up!

Posted by: Monk81_Green28 | May 11, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

How about Haynesworth for OJ Otogwe, both teams win with this trade, we get the ball hawking free safety we need and Rams get the D-Tackle they need!

Posted by: michaelr1171 | May 11, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I say trade Haynesworth for some 2nd round pick. Probably to Tennessee, they need him the most today.

Posted by: azim_1994 | May 11, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

7-9 this year at best,thats if McNabb makes it through the season. Grossman is our go to guy when McNabb goes down?
Shanny is no great judge of talent.Look at his record after Elway and he's a Danny buddy.

DANNY BOY STILL RULES !!

Posted by: dannyboyrules | May 11, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Was looking into this Brandon Banks a little more...4.25 speed. Supposed to be incredibly tough for a 150 pounder..I guess stranger things have happened..Would have to prove he can take the hits...Probably can't do that.

Posted by: carlhimmelright | May 12, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Was looking into this Brandon Banks a little more...4.25 speed. Supposed to be incredibly tough for a 150 pounder..I guess stranger things have happened..Would have to prove he can take the hits...Probably can't do that.

Posted by: carlhimmelright | May 12, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

No center on the starting offensive line? We are in trouble with just 4 starting OL.

Posted by: ryoung36 | May 12, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

No center in the starting offensive line?

Posted by: ryoung36 | May 12, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"Barring another signing or a trade, the starting offensive line heading into training camp will likely be Trent Williams, Derrick Dockery, Mike Williams and Artis Hicks" ......uhhh....aren't there 5 linemen on an O-line? Did we forget about the guy who snaps the ball?
Posted by: Monk81_Green28
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I guess Reid forgot the token white guy...

Posted by: sovine08 | May 13, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like some position issues are starting to be resolved - or at least becoming more clear but there are a couple of positions which still have me concerned - most notably - who is going to be our kicker? - our punter? I liked the addition last year of Hunter Smith, but noticed early on the Shanahan still hadn't settled on a punter - and it seems no one has even discussed our kicker status - we haven't had a dependable starter in that position since.......geez, it seems like since Chip Lohmiller. Seems to me that's a fairly significant position considering it's cost us a few games in the past seasons. Maybe one of multiple receivers or running backs can do that job too.

Posted by: whelms1 | May 14, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

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