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Redskins' Roster Reflects O Line Focus

A major concern coming into training camp was the depth of the Washington Redskins' offensive line. When final cuts were made Saturday, the Redskins took steps address it by keeping one more lineman than originally expected, cutting veteran guard-tackle Jeremy Bridges but keeping rookie guard-center Edwin Williams and third-year guard-tackle D'Anthony Batiste.

Bridges played 41 games for Carolina over the past three years, but he struggled during much of the preseason and missed time over the past week to deal with a personal situation. But Vinny Cerrato, the team's executive vice president of football operations, said Williams and Batiste simply beat out Bridges.

"I think what happens is the other guys out-perform," Cerrato said Saturday evening. "So what it comes down to, you evaluate, and what happens is guys kind of eliminate themselves and other guys force themselves to be on the team."

The Redskins also kept veteran tackle Mike Williams, a former first-round pick who hasn't played a regular-season game since 2005. Williams struggled with a sprained ankle and an abdominal strain during the preseason, but both Coach Jim Zorn and Cerrato praised Williams after Thursday's final exhibition game.

"I think any time he played, he showed power," Cerrato said. "The Baltimore game, he played well when he played, and this past game he played 50 snaps, and he maybe had one bad play. But he played well in that game. You see a guy who's a big, talented guy who can get movement off the ball."

Cerrato said Edwin Williams, who went undrafted out of the University of Maryland, was one of the surprises of the preseason, but made the team because he "can play three spots and got better each week, and he earned it." A center in college, offensive line coach Joe Bugel moved him to guard late in the preseason. Bugel called the 6-foot-3, 315-pound Edwin Williams a "pleasant surprise" two weeks ago.

"He's power-packed," Bugel said. "That's the kind of body you'd like to have on a football player. ...He has a legitimate chance, because he can whack you."

The 6-4, 314-pound Batiste has spent time with Carolina and Atlanta, and he started four games for the Falcons in 2007. The Redskins signed him off the Falcons' practice squad last December.

"You like his size and you like his feet," Cerrato said. "He's got excellent feet. He can handle a speed rush."

The Redskins now have a veteran starting unit, one on which third-year right tackle Stephon Heyer is the only player with less than seven years in the league. The backups, though, include Edwin Williams, 22, and second-year man Chad Rinehart, 24, who have never played in an NFL game; as well as Batiste and guard-center Will Montgomery, who have combined for just 17 appearances. Mike Williams, 29, last appeared in a regular season game for Buffalo in 2009 and was completely out of football in 2007 and 2008. He lost more than 100 pounds after signing with the Redskins in the offseason to get down under 350.

By Barry Svrluga  |  September 5, 2009; 7:35 PM ET
 
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1st?

Posted by: mohammed10 | September 5, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

if you ain't first, you're last...

Posted by: carocanesfan | September 5, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

so i guess i'm last

Posted by: carocanesfan | September 5, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins' Roster Reflects O Line Focus"


The jints d-line will be focused on the redskins' offensive line, too.

The pats presented problems when they came out in a "46" bear front and got a great push against the redskin starting offensive line.

The line is indeed younger and more athletic.

But is it better?

We'll see when another team chooses to focus in on it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 5, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

REPOST:

Its not a bad roster as far as it goes. They kept a lot of the OL. Mitchell will probably end up playing a lot. I suspect that linebacker Young will be brought back and activated if he isn't picked up by another team. They need every single one of the DL for the games that Haynesworth misses. He has consistently missed a lot of games. Have to expect that.

Also they kept A LOT of corner backs this time. So, they do apparently understand that there is a problem there right now.

Mason sends a signal to Portis that they weren't impressed with his "camp" this year. Mason can't play on special teams, he isn't any good at that. So, he is ostensibly there in case Portis goes down.

Impressive set of linemen and linebackers. The linebacking is a work in progress that hopefully won't require an entire season.

Let's hope for the bst

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

One thing that surprised me was all the RI posting about Brennan and Daniel, two scrubbing QBs. But then ESPN comes along and puts them on its lead screen, along with real sports news about OSU, USC, Sharapova, Bosox, etc. LMAO.

Posted by: MrRed | September 5, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

On a side note, select the biggest fall from traditional college football powerhouse, to possible also-ran:

Penn State
Michigan
Fla State
Miami
Notre Dame
Nebraska
Syracuse
Pitt
Army


Posted by: MistaMoe | September 5, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

hopefully they'll make a play for a younger veteran lineman, LB, or DB after all the cuts have been made. just thinking that westbrook or wynn are expendable.

keeping wynn just doesn't make sense in the scheme of things, long-term. a 2/3 year, hungry, faster player, who can help on ST is needed.

Who outta this group is making noise on teams?

Rock, Davis, Henson, Doughty, Thomas, Wilson...?
They need a banger in the group.

Posted by: saltine182 | September 5, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Jarmon replaces Rob Jackson. No going back for Wilson and Orapko. They are first and foremost linebackers in Blache's system. They will see most of the action there which is a good thing given their athleticism.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

like the roster (a B not sure a B+ just yet)with what we had and considering what has been happening for the last few years. We shall see how the team will address the O-line (STICK WITH THE FREAKING DRAFT, GUYS) and i will give Campbell one more chance (he is not bad given some players around him) here so i am behind this team as of right now, (paid a little too much for Albert but it is what it is)

BRING ON THE G-MEN, we are underdogs and a great test this upcoming sunday

I am PUMPED already

Posted by: bleedBURGUNDYandGOLD | September 5, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Mason can't play on special teams, he isn't any good at that. So, he is ostensibly there in case Portis goes down.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:51 PM |

It ain't like we're the phins with brown and williams or the gaints with jacobs and bradshaw.

Posted by: MrRed | September 5, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

periculum,

In case you forgot. Snyder didn't chase Bailey out of town. He was traded for Portis. I agree though that letting Springs go even if he was often injured was a mistake as he was our best corner.

Posted by: Thundershock | September 5, 2009

I'm not sure how many fools and friend of fools one must deal with but .. YOU KNUCLEHEAD Bailey wanted to LEAVE. Gibbs gave him that option, leave or play for him. Bailey decided that he preferred NOT TO HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO DO WITH SNYDER! They would not give up the best corner back in the NFL for Clinton Portis! It was not and is not the SAME VALUE!

But at least they came away with something. Thanks to Gibbs NOT Snidely Owl.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Yeah but when you talk about value...how much has Bailey helped Denver compared to Portis here?? Bailey has not lived up to the same value and helped Denver to the same value that we have gotten from clinton...Looking back now? i'd make that trade for portis again in a heart beat!

Posted by: leevi98 | September 5, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Denver to the same value that we have gotten from clinton...Looking back now? i'd make that trade for portis again in a heart beat!

Posted by: leevi98

Dream On Foolish Boy.

2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 92


Comment: Bailey spent his first five years with the Washington Redskins and then signed with the Broncos prior to the 2004 season. For the most part he has been a 16-game starter although he missed seven games in 2008 with an injury. He is one of the elite corners in the NFL possessing size, speed, agility and cover skills that allow him to basically shut down one side of the field. While he has a tendency to bite on double moves, he has enough speed to recover and get back into coverage. He has the size and temperament to be a physical tackler when called upon to support the run. He can be physical when trying to jam the receiver at the line of scrimmage and has the size and ball skills to compete for passes with some of the bigger receivers in the NFL. After missing seven games this past season, he needs to show he can stay healthy for a full season.

2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 80


Comment: Portis continues to be one of the most productive running backs in the league, averaging 4.5 yards per attempt during his seven-year career. He has gained weight and strength since first coming into the league in 2002 to add to his excellent athleticism. He has improved his inside presence as a runner but is best on the edges and perimeter. He has good quickness and burst to and through the holes as well as lateral agility and balance to make effective cuts. Portis has great vision inline as a downhill runner but can bounce the ball to the outside with burst t stretch defenses. He is a willing an effective pass protector with toughness and deceptive strength verse linebackers. Portis is an excellent football player who has had some durability problems but has been somewhat healthy his past two seasons.


Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Forget all the chatter. In terms of performance, last years' OL is the same as this years' OL - mediocre.

Posted by: MillPond2 | September 5, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Dictitorum ad nauseum.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 5, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Forget all the chatter. In terms of performance, last years' OL is the same as this years' OL - mediocre.

Posted by: MillPond2 | September 5, 2009

No, the starters are ONE year older and 2 have collected some serious dings. Except for Dockery this is an aging line.

That's why I guess they have four backups this year one for every position on the line. At tight end they have 2 good to excellent pass blockers in Davis and Yoder. Two good to excellent pass receivers in Davis and Cooley.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Mistamoe, you forgot the Ohio State Punkeyes in your list of the fallen.

Posted by: MrChili | September 5, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I agree with saltine182 about Wynn and especially Byron Westbrook why did we keep him? look for him to be moved one way or another!! anyone no off any quality veteran corner's that got cut today I noticed alot of quality LB's that got cut who are good on Special Team's and good all around LB's.

Posted by: robbkels | September 5, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

On a side note, select the biggest fall from traditional college football powerhouse, to possible also-ran:

Penn State
Michigan
Fla State
Miami
Notre Dame
Nebraska
Syracuse
Pitt
Army

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 5, 2009 7:55 PM |

Strange list. I can remember their glory years even though they have been taking their lumps recently. I can't remember any glory years for Syracuse, Army and Pitt.

Posted by: MrRed | September 5, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I noticed alot of quality LB's that got cut who are good on Special Team's and good all around LB's.

Posted by: robbkels | September 5, 2009

It is probably a very good idea for Vinnie to earn his pay by keeping an eye out for players who could potentially improve this team at the key positions on the offensive line and at corner back. Otherwise, things may not be so good as the season progresses.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Surprised they kept Mason over Aldridge.

Surprised Edwin Williams made the team.

REALLY surprised Westbrook made the team.

STUNNED Bridges got cut. WTF? That was the biggest shocker by far. Gotta trust in Buges, but sheesh....no warning signs on that one.

Posted by: McMetal | September 5, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I foresee Mason and Mitchell being deactivated week after week. Now someone tell me why the NFL only allows 45 players to dress for games? This is a ridiculous rule and it should be changed to allow all 53 players to dress. Can anyone justify this dumba$% rule?

Posted by: pennstate1 | September 5, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

beep peeb

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 5, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Leevi98/Vinny is back after a long absence.
Leevi, I wouldn't start with defending the champ trade though. Maybe focus on how good C. Horton and M. Mitchell turned out to be instead.

Posted by: zornskins2 | September 5, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Dream On Foolish Boy.

2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 92


Comment: Bailey spent his first five years with the Washington Redskins and then signed with the Broncos prior to the 2004 season. For the most part he has been a 16-game starter although he missed seven games in 2008 with an injury. He is one of the elite corners in the NFL possessing size, speed, agility and cover skills that allow him to basically shut down one side of the field. While he has a tendency to bite on double moves, he has enough speed to recover and get back into coverage. He has the size and temperament to be a physical tackler when called upon to support the run. He can be physical when trying to jam the receiver at the line of scrimmage and has the size and ball skills to compete for passes with some of the bigger receivers in the NFL. After missing seven games this past season, he needs to show he can stay healthy for a full season.


2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 80


Comment: Portis continues to be one of the most productive running backs in the league, averaging 4.5 yards per attempt during his seven-year career. He has gained weight and strength since first coming into the league in 2002 to add to his excellent athleticism. He has improved his inside presence as a runner but is best on the edges and perimeter. He has good quickness and burst to and through the holes as well as lateral agility and balance to make effective cuts. Portis has great vision inline as a downhill runner but can bounce the ball to the outside with burst t stretch defenses. He is a willing an effective pass protector with toughness and deceptive strength verse linebackers. Portis is an excellent football player who has had some durability problems but has been somewhat healthy his past two seasons.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 8:13 PM


It's all relevant, but tell me a team that wouldn't take a workhorse running back over a cover corner.

Over the past 5 years, maybe 2/3 running backs have been as productive as Portis. He set team records in TD's and yards.

Bailey meanwhile, has been part of some terrible defenses and has been abused in big games.

Main question, Would you really grade that trade based off of some scouting report?


Posted by: saltine182 | September 5, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Westbrook is expendable. Edwin Williams and Batiste may be expendable too. If the Skins sign a new 3rd QB, I expect that one of these three will be the one that is dropped to make room.
Keeping Williams on the roster today may be a way of making it more likely that he would not be picked up by some other team if the 'skins sign players from other teams in the next few days. He may yet wind up on the practice squad. Hopefully there will be some upgrades to the O-line available out there that we can snatch up.

Still not sold on Mason. He needs to do more on special teams.

Posted by: kaasmaster | September 5, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Upgrades in regard to the 0-line in my mind other than adding WIL MONTGOMERT include DOCK who has looked good, far better than when he left. He should help us forget KENDALL. HEYOR is improved, but still a question-mark to my mind although an improvement over JANSEN who played like a zombie at times last year. RABACH continues to perform steadily at center. EDWIN WILLIAMS is rough, but has excellent upside and could be a standout in two years. And finally BATISTE who played well at LG, but struggled against corner rush at RT.

Still troubling are both SAMUELS and THOMAS who have to prove they can play pro caliber ball after serious injuries. RANDY was held out of the JAX game. Evidently serious enough to rest what ails him. His outstanding career is nearing its end.

On the least optimistic side, CHAD RINEHART continues to give me night sweats. And MIKE WILLIAMS looked terrible for a veteran player despite not having played for years. The thought of him having to pinch-hit for SAMUELS or HEYER is downright scary.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 5, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I'm on leevi and saltine's side on the Portis vs. Bailey debate. I'd much rather have a workhorse back than a shutdown corner. Poris has improved our team much more than Bailey has improved theirs.

Posted by: kaasmaster | September 5, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Happy for Mason....... Hope for him he sticks and no other "quick/scat" back gets released anywhere......

HTTR

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 5, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

MistaMo , you funny.

I would have to say that Notre Dame and Syracuse at least have become irrelevant to all but their fan bases.

Posted by: rgj21 | September 5, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe , you funny.

I would have to say that Notre Dame and Syracuse at least have become irrelevant to all but their fan bases.

Posted by: rgj21 | September 5, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Leevi98/Vinny is back after a long absence.
Leevi, I wouldn't start with defending the champ trade though. Maybe focus on how good C. Horton and M. Mitchell turned out to be instead.

Posted by: zornskins2 | September 5, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

First of all...I have not had a "long absence" I have made many comments on here. Just some only focus on the posts they disagree with. second...Don't throw me under the bus on the subject I commented on. It was already long going...I just made one comment on a subject many were already discussing.

3rd...i don't like Vinnie either...so why you include his name with mine I have no idea.

Posted by: leevi98 | September 5, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Denver to the same value that we have gotten from clinton...Looking back now? i'd make that trade for portis again in a heart beat!

Posted by: leevi98

Dream On Foolish Boy.

2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 92


Comment: Bailey spent his first five years with the Washington Redskins and then signed with the Broncos prior to the 2004 season. For the most part he has been a 16-game starter although he missed seven games in 2008 with an injury. He is one of the elite corners in the NFL possessing size, speed, agility and cover skills that allow him to basically shut down one side of the field. While he has a tendency to bite on double moves, he has enough speed to recover and get back into coverage. He has the size and temperament to be a physical tackler when called upon to support the run. He can be physical when trying to jam the receiver at the line of scrimmage and has the size and ball skills to compete for passes with some of the bigger receivers in the NFL. After missing seven games this past season, he needs to show he can stay healthy for a full season.

2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 80


Comment: Portis continues to be one of the most productive running backs in the league, averaging 4.5 yards per attempt during his seven-year career. He has gained weight and strength since first coming into the league in 2002 to add to his excellent athleticism. He has improved his inside presence as a runner but is best on the edges and perimeter. He has good quickness and burst to and through the holes as well as lateral agility and balance to make effective cuts. Portis has great vision inline as a downhill runner but can bounce the ball to the outside with burst t stretch defenses. He is a willing an effective pass protector with toughness and deceptive strength verse linebackers. Portis is an excellent football player who has had some durability problems but has been somewhat healthy his past two seasons.


Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse


LOL that shows nothing except you can look up articles. I still stand by my stance...I'd take that trade again in a heartbeat.

Posted by: leevi98 | September 5, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget that we also gave up a 2nd round pick in the Bailey/Portis trade, so it was not an "even" trade.

I was surprised that we kept Westbrook. Is Carlos more injured that we were led to believe?

By letting Bridges go, I figure that the coaches believe that Mike Williams is going to improve over the next several weeks. I think that this is a save bet, but if Samuels or Heyer get injured early in the season, I wouldn't be surprised if we picked up another tackle.

Posted by: BeerKeg | September 6, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

JC needs better playcalling this year period. The O-line should be better and hopefully healthy.

JC also needs to be faster and more decisive. He needs to play to win and not play to not lose. He needs to let her rip! He won't be back if he doesn't win games, so he might as well accept some interceptions....and go deep, deep ,deep baby

Posted by: peaceful2008

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Peace, Peace, Peace, what the hell are you talking about? "The O-line should be better"
Here is the juice of the matter: the Redskins looked at 2008 season and realized that one huge reason for their failure was the O-line. So they organized a bunch of meetings to address the issue thru free agency and draft. They focused their attention on the O-line and signed big time free agent O-linemen and drafted talented O-linemen in the draft, right?

WRONG! the Redskins looked at the problem and got bored. they decided to spend all their money and attention on defense. Here is the "logic": Damn it, if we cannot score because our offense sucks, let's make our defense better so the other team doesn't score either. We'll be 0-0 all through the season, right?

Wrong! Doesn't matter how good your defense is. Somebody is going to score a couple of points on you. With Redskins offense on early retirement, the defense will play 40-50 minutes per game and the 4th quarter will be a good time for opponents to light up the score board.

Help!

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 6, 2009 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Are there professional scouting services that a team could hire during preseason/draft? Kinda like a consultant who can look at the draft and the free agents and find solution to problems? Can this be outsourced?

I mean, MrSnyder must be pretty saavy to make his marketing empire. I am sure he knew how to use smart people to keep things going. How come he is not doing that with the Redskins? Does Vinny Cerrato have nude pics of Ms. Snyder as blackmail?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 6, 2009 2:22 AM | Report abuse

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