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Redskins sign long snapper Nick Sundberg

The Redskins Friday announced the signing of long snapper Nick Sundberg to a futures contract.

Sundberg, 22, was most recently with the Baltimore Ravens, having signed with them late in the season. Sundberg, a University of California product, originally signed with the Panthers last spring as a rookie free agent but was released following training camp.

While the signing doesn't signify anything massive, it does at least shine a light on Ethan Albright, the team's long-time long snapper who could have a bit of competition in the spring.
Albright, 38, is a 15-year veteran and has been with the Redskins since 2001. He's been a Redskin longer than any other player, and he's also the locker room's union representative, an important role right now as the owners and NFLPA prepare for an uncapped year. Though he has got plenty of mileage on him, Albright is a highly-respected snapper around the league and was a Pro Bowler in 2007. He hasn't missed a single game since 1995, his rookie season.

On Shaun Suisham's memorable missed field goal against New Orleans last month, Albright blamed himself for a bad snap, though most everyone else -- including Jim Zorn and Suisham himself -- said it was the kicker's fault.

Albright is an unrestricted free agent, as he has been after the past several seasons.

By Rick Maese  |  January 29, 2010; 2:31 PM ET
 
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Comments

classic Shanahan, no detail too small, no stone unturned

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Whatevs

Posted by: 4SkinzForever | January 29, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

This spring Nick Sundberg will feel the wrath of the red snapper. Book it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 29, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I love me some long snapper. Giggity.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 29, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"I can see the Skins trading Cooley + Campbell to AZ and getting a couple of very high picks, or perhaps getting Linehart, a backup TE and a maybe one high pick"

From the previous thread, we need a Rhino, a unicorn, bigfoot, and probably the loch ness monster....

Thats how galactically stupid your trade is.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

Greg, you've got to learn to respect your FF champions. We just know more than very ordinary folk like you. Still, there's no need to worry. I'll be patient with you, no matter how many 'teachable moments' you require.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"I can see the Skins trading Cooley + Campbell to AZ and getting a couple of very high picks, or perhaps getting Linehart, a backup TE and a maybe one high pick"

Wow, can't believe I missed this gem... I don't think that would even work in Madden.. and who the F is Linehart??

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 29, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Signing depth at a position of apparent strength but which - due to age - could be easily shattered? Preposterous. I demand a recount! This is not a cluster yet, why should we fix it?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 29, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

who the F is Linehart??

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 29, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse
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Word scramble: Who the Leinart is F

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 29, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

mistamayor

"On Shaun Suisham's memorable missed field goal against New Orleans last month, Albright blamed himself for a bad snap, though most everyone else ...said it was the kicker's fault."

And when we do get a thread mentioning Shaun "Ya Boy" Swizzham, it's not about the lovely boneheaded misses in the pokes v. vikes game, but the mistake somebody else may have made that caused him to miss in a redskin game.

Wazzup wid dat?

Is his poster on your bedroom wall next to mine?

Are you on his payroll?

Well, if you are, make sure he pays you.

'Cuz from what I see, a boss like Shaun Suisham might just miss your payday thinking it was a goal post forty yards away or something.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Shon Sweesham duz not haz posse.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 29, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I was getting a little worried that RI was going to go an entire day without having a post mentioning Suisham. Thank God that didn't happen.

Posted by: smurff1 | January 29, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Word scramble: Who the Leinart is F

Posted by: mattsoundworld

I couldn't believe all the crap he took over that pic. Why shouldn't he have some fun? Most guys would pay to get that pic. At least he didn't wreck his Caddy at 3am and leave voice messages where his wife could find them.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 29, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Madden '95 on PS2. I got the Jets. #19 TD Everytime!

Posted by: 4thFloor


MAdden '97 on PS2. Went with the Broncos that whole year....before they won the SB...

Posted by: 4thFloor

4th, In '97 I'd see your Broncos and raise you the Green Bay Packers. Their defense was unstoppable.

In '95, I'd ball out with the 49ers. The HB Counter play with Ricky Watters was unstoppable.

***Kurt Warner is done***

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

F Jason Reid

F Shaun Suisham

F Jim Zorn

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

We may have to go there Red....Cuz you know in the 90s ain't NO ONE was using the skins....lol

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Most guys would pay to get that pic.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse
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And they would immediately regret the hidden costs

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 29, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

on Campbell, Shanahan has 2 basic choices. Decide Campbell could be the guy or decide he isn't the guy. Everything stems from that assessment, and he won't be tipping his hand.

If Shanahan thinks Campbell could be the guy, its simple, Campbell gets 2010 to prove it.

If Shanahan decides Campbell isn't the guy, Shanahan's next major decision isn't simply who to get, but when to get him. I think Shanahan would be OK with a 'placeholder' QB for 1-2 years.

The placeholder can be Campbell, but it doesn't have to be. I can see Shanahan trading Campbell for something he values elsewhere, and bringing in a different placeholder QB (Leftwich, Garcia, etc) until he can find his guy.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

NOt that it is anything wrong with it....but I shore hope none of y'all wanted this commercial and are mad it won't be shown @ the SB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MQWFiIrBLA&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The 'skins were known as the Deadskins in the '90s... sadly it's making a comeback.


I have a Saints fan who like to run their mouth... A Saints fan now..

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

***Kurt Warner is done***

Rare, unmentionable, well?

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 29, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

And they would immediately regret the hidden costs

Posted by: mattsoundworld

Best mixed company joke.

Q: What's the difference between sex for free and sex for money?

A: Sex for money is a lot cheaper.

Every guy gets it, but its fun to watch the reaction of the women, especially since a about 1/2 don't get it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

the red snapper is the man... sundberg is just a camp guy...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | January 29, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

on Campbell, Shanahan has 2 basic choices. Decide Campbell could be the guy or decide he isn't the guy. Everything stems from that assessment, and he won't be tipping his hand.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 3:37 PM

Zeke, at first this sounded pretty profound -- probably the way that you wrote it. Then I started thinking, doesn't he have the same basic decision about everyone on the roster?

Posted by: League-Source | January 29, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

That Albright letter is so classic.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Talking about trading back for more picks...

Has anyone considered the idea of the Ravens as a potential trade partner. Their offense is solid on almost all fronts and Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are aging really fast. With that, they may want to reach and pick up Eric Berry or Rolondo McLaine or Brandon Spikes (SP).

That scenario may net us a swap for this years first, a 3rd rounder this year, and next years 1st or second.

With that we could add a L/R Tackle this year in the bottom third of this years first round, a QB or Tackle in the Second, and a guard in the third. Then with next years two first rounders we get the remaining tackle(s) or QB.

Sounds possible. Baltimore is in the AFC so trading with them doesn't hurt either team. Except maybe Danny's ego since they dominate him.

Posted by: Devo2 | January 29, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

***Kurt Warner is done***

Rare, unmentionable, well?

Posted by: HPYTRKR1


Scrambled after that shot he took against the Saints.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

***Kurt Warner is done***

Officially retired (well, unless your last name is Favre). Too bad. He continued to play great ball and I think quit 2 years too soon. It's the end to one of the greatest stories ever in the NFL and I will miss watching him. My hope is that he makes the HOF.

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 29, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

If Shanahan decides Campbell isn't the guy, Shanahan's next major decision isn't simply who to get, but when to get him. I think Shanahan would be OK with a 'placeholder' QB for 1-2 years.

The placeholder can be Campbell, but it doesn't have to be. I can see Shanahan trading Campbell for something he values elsewhere, and bringing in a different placeholder QB (Leftwich, Garcia, etc) until he can find his guy.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Agree, this is best possiblle outcome for us and JC17 - get something of value for him if we can, and sign another placeholder QB (you can add Rex Grossman to your list of possible candidates) to steer the ship while we groom the QB of the future.

Posted by: PDXskin | January 29, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

People like to give Kurt Warner a hard time about his religious beliefs, but to me Tebow is 100x worse.

F Tim Tebow.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

You can't play Orakpo and Carter as your two starting DEs, because neither has the bulk or strength at the point of attack to be an every-down left DE (See Taylor, Jason). Most offenses tend to run more to the right, where the tight end usually lines up. So you need more of a Phillip Daniels-Jeremy Jarmon size and strength guy on the left side, instead of speed guys like Orakpo and Carter.

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 29, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Really? See: Tuck & Strahan or Minnesota's Allen and Edwards

Posted by: ga8085 | January 29, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

There are exceptions. Freeney and Mathis in Indy is another one. And Edwards, who is still bigger than either Orakpo or Carter, is aided by the presence of the Williams Wall. However, if you look at most 4-3 LDEs in the league, they run 270-280 and up. Questions of size aside, though, teams had considerable success running to our right side this year because both Orakpo and Carter had problems holding their own against the 300+ pound tackles they were going up against every Sunday. That problem would be amplified on the left, where the offenses have an extra blocker (the TE) and where offenses usually put their best run-blocking tackle.

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 29, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

People like to give Kurt Warner a hard time about his religious beliefs, but to me Tebow is 100x worse.

F Tim Tebow.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse
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OH NO... somebody believes in GOD... I would cut him immediately!

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

People like to give Kurt Warner a hard time about his religious beliefs, but to me Tebow is 100x worse.

F Tim Tebow.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:51 PM


Wow. F Tim Tebow for his religious beliefs? Your demonstration of your lack of tolerance is breathtaking. Guess we have to F Joe Gibbs and F Art Monk too...

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 29, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

NOt that it is anything wrong with it....but I shore hope none of y'all wanted this commercial and are mad it won't be shown @ the SB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MQWFiIrBLA&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Smells of hypocrisy on CBS's part.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 29, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Q: What's the difference between sex for free and sex for money?

A: Sex for money is a lot cheaper.

Every guy gets it, but its fun to watch the reaction of the women, especially since a about 1/2 don't get it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse
Haha! Very True

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Sounds possible. Baltimore is in the AFC so trading with them doesn't hurt either team. Except maybe Danny's ego since they dominate him.

Posted by: Devo2 | January 29, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Would be nice for us, but Baltimore doesn't strike me as the type of organization that would make a trade up - they seem to let the draft come to them instead (which is what good teams who draft well from year to year have the luxury of doing!).

Posted by: PDXskin | January 29, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

People like to give Kurt Warner a hard time about his religious beliefs, but to me Tebow is 100x worse.

F Tim Tebow.

Posted by: RedDMV


OH NO... somebody believes in GOD... I would cut him immediately!

Posted by: tony325


Wow. F Tim Tebow for his religious beliefs? Your demonstration of your lack of tolerance is breathtaking. Guess we have to F Joe Gibbs and F Art Monk too...

Posted by: amaranthpa


Sorry if you two church boys just got your feelings hurt. Here's an idea: If you pray for me, maybe I'll get better...

Whatever.

Joe Gibbs didn't try and force it down anyone's throat. Did Joe Gibbs or Art Monk and get on TV during the Super Bowl and talk about an issue as controversial as abortion?

I don't think so.

Tebow's is just using the Super Bowl for his own exploitation. Why use the super bowl to talk about abortion? I don't want to hear that sh*t while I'm watching football. How much you want to bet how many arguments or maybe even fights will ensue.

This is sports. There aren't to many things that can unite us all in this world. Sh*t I can only think of two: Natural Disaster and Sports. So why talk about a subject during a time when YOU KNOW so many people will be watching that we're divided on?

And before you go comparing businesses and money with abortion I hope you have the intelligence to understand the vast difference between the two.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

No problem. It has a Packer fan and a Viking fan.

Now if it had a Redskin fan and a Cowgirl fan.....just saying.

LMAO

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 29, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

The guy eating the wings...his look...priceless.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 29, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Sounds possible. Baltimore is in the AFC so trading with them doesn't hurt either team. Except maybe Danny's ego since they dominate him.

Posted by: Devo2 | January 29, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Would be nice for us, but Baltimore doesn't strike me as the type of organization that would make a trade up - they seem to let the draft come to them instead (which is what good teams who draft well from year to year have the luxury of doing!).

Posted by: PDXskin | January 29, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Very true, but with the immediate drop off in their D from losing Ray and Ed Reed at the same time, might just force thier hand. Especially if Bruce and Shannahan can help persuade them.

Of course this all hypothetical and conjecture at this point. But going back to your point it's possible they've already got someone in the waiting in their roster.

Posted by: Devo2 | January 29, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

People like to give Kurt Warner a hard time about his religious beliefs, but to me Tebow is 100x worse.

F Tim Tebow.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Tebow is too in your face with that stuff.

I don't care what scripture you are reading Tebow, you can stop putting it on your eye-black.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 29, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if you two church boys just got your feelings hurt. Here's an idea: If you pray for me, maybe I'll get better...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 29, 2010 4:11 PM

Careful, Red, they may pray for you to get worse or for god to smite you down completely.

Posted by: League-Source | January 29, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Can we have a commercial during the superbowl about the death penalty?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I get what Red is saying....

Both speak in terms as if they are 'perfect'.....That is what we call in today's society..A Turn Off.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

eye-black is reserved for area codes

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 29, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow. F Tim Tebow for his religious beliefs? Your demonstration of your lack of tolerance is breathtaking. Guess we have to F Joe Gibbs and F Art Monk too...

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 29, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse


Im going to have to agree with Red on this one. There is nothing wrong with being religious, its probably a good thing. But Tebow comes from that let me shove my religion and beliefs down your throat camp. This is witnessed on his upcoming super bowl ad against abortion. Athletes should stick to their sport and leave the social commentary to someone else.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 29, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

For crying out loud, you religious types are so thin skinned about this stuff. Look, you go on believing what you want to believe, most of the atheists and agnostics are not gonna bother you.

But you start letting your belief systems get in the way of progress because you get co-opted by a political agenda or the agenda of some financial interest then other people are going to come down on you hard.

If a religious nut like Osama Bin Laden can figure out that the climate change crisis is real why can't some american religious nuts?

Separation of Church and State.
Separation of Corporate and State
Separation of Church and Corporate.

Thats the only way that any of the three can work.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 29, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Tebow's is just using the Super Bowl for his own exploitation. Why use the super bowl to talk about abortion? I don't want to hear that sh*t while I'm watching football. How much you want to bet how many arguments or maybe even fights will ensue.

_______________________________

No you probably just want to know how to make your Enis bigger.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Marshall and a 3rd rounder for Cooley and D. Thomas is an interesting rumour. I really like Cooley, but we'd be getting the best player in that deal. Marshall is a stud (and a head case, too, but what big-name WR isn't these days?). I'd do the deal.

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 29, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse


Can we have a commercial during the superbowl about the death penalty?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Sure, we will do a public execution during the half time show like they do in the f***ed up religious countries. /sarcasm

Posted by: alex35332 | January 29, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't go to church ever... Religion was designed to make money using the name of GOD... There's a simple book that teaches without preaching if you have an open mind, it's called the Bible... New Living Translation takes out all the Old English (Shakespearean stuff) .. maybe the ebonics one will come out this year & you could learn something.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Can't Tebow save that crap for the 700 club?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I've always wondered why athletes, when interviewed right after a victory, will often start their answers with some variation of: "First of all, I want to thank G-d for making this possible..." but after a loss, they never start with: "First of all, I can't believe G-d let this happen...."

Posted by: 4-12 | January 29, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

didn't we do this already.....

time for the weekend...solid

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 29, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

REDSKIN FOOTBALL.PLEASE

Posted by: sthai75 | January 29, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I saw a flyer from one of my old roomates mother's church. It was trying to explain how you should itemize your income. It went on to say 15% should go to God. At which point I asked her "does God take credit cards?" Man, she got pissed.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Tony - What about the Quron and the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Law of Moses?

Huh?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

REDSKIN FOOTBALL.PLEASE

Posted by: sthai75 | January 29, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse
This blog gets alot more interesting when race, religion or politics come into play.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

If a religious nut like Osama Bin Laden can figure out that the climate change crisis is real why can't some american religious nuts?

He's not agreeing, just repeating the psycobable being propagated by Al Gore and all the UN peeps that want to own all the businesses that will prosper with all the $$$$$ that we are going to throw their way.

Bin Laden probably already owns the franchises that make all these windmills that we are going to buy which will continue to have us bankroll his human bomb idiots.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 29, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Tony - What about the Quron and the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Law of Moses?

Huh?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse
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Come on guys... I really don't want to go there...I just think this is America & Everyone should be given their right to Free Speech, which seems to hardly exist anymore because half the time a person's mouth gets them in trouble more than their actions.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I recently wondered why not have a long snapper with an upside, just in case, I don't know, you have to start 8 different RGs. I'm not sure if that's the thinking.

The first thing I would do would be analyze all the over 32 years old guys, just seems like common sense.

Some of Thor old boys are still good

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 29, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the Quran... I'm all for having 4 wives, but unfortunately the laws in this country won't allow it.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys... I really don't want to go there...I just think this is America & Everyone should be given their right to Free Speech, which seems to hardly exist anymore because half the time a person's mouth gets them in trouble more than their actions.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:32 PM

Well....You should not have went there wit the ebonics.....Point Blank

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Zeke, at first this sounded pretty profound -- probably the way that you wrote it. Then I started thinking, doesn't he have the same basic decision about everyone on the roster?

Posted by: League-Source

Not really.

Break it down into 3 groups.
1. He IS the guy
2. he MIGHT be the guy and
3. he ISN'T the guy

Some guys are gonna be here because of contracts (Hall, Albert, Dockery, etc). Some guys are here on merit (Fletcher, Doughty, Orakpo). Those guys are category 1.

Some guys are likely to be gone, Rinehart, Betts, etc. Category 3, these AREN'T his guys.

Some guys straddle two categories. Rocky McIntosh is going to fall into category 1 or 2.

With several more guys, the consequences have a limited impact because they are near the end (Rock, Portis, R Thomas, Daniels, Griffin).

There are some guys that are similar to Campbell, either in category 2 or 3. Golston and MK12 fit that description, though I'm not sure either has a contract situation to deal prior to the start of 2010 season.

The elements that make Campbell's situation unique are the contract situation -- something has to be done in this offseason. Plus the QB is the most important player on the team and lastly, the QB decision is a 7-10 year decision.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

"REDSKIN FOOTBALL.PLEASE"

Sure.

When there's a game, decision, hiring, list of released players, or draft, we'll be rested and ready to chat all things redskin.

But as for now, the playas with real skill must work to keep the chatta flowing.

If you got something to say, say it.

But until there's a game, well, there ain't too much about the redskins to say.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for having 4 wives, but unfortunately the laws in this country won't allow it.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:34 PM

I think that the point is to protect three women from bigots like you.

Posted by: League-Source | January 29, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Well....You should not have went there wit the ebonics.....Point Blank

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 29, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

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OK agree... just understand I'm a smart you know what & I think race jokes are funny to be honest with you.... no harm meant but point taken.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Lost the bubble: Who did we get as O line coach?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 29, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"...Sex for money is a lot cheaper..."

It depends on whether or not if you're getting it or giving it.

Me?: I'm real cheap, I pay nothing for doing it to myself.

Less expensive and stressful that way.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Less expensive and stressful that way.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 4:45 PM

I always thought of sex as a great stress reliever. But then I never had a performance problem.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 29, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Me?: I'm real cheap, I pay nothing for doing it to myself.

Less expensive and stressful that way.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse
Just the cost of lotion and tissues, or maybe shampoo. I find Head and Shoulders gives a nice glide

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

... I find Head and Shoulders gives a nice glide

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 29, 2010 4:51 PM

Gives new meaning to the term foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: dcsween | January 29, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Lost the bubble: Who did we get as O line coach?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 29, 2010 4:45 PM

The guy who had the same job with the 49ers.

Posted by: dcsween | January 29, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Marshall and a 3rd rounder for Cooley and D. Thomas is an interesting rumour. I really like Cooley, but we'd be getting the best player in that deal. Marshall is a stud (and a head case, too, but what big-name WR isn't these days?). I'd do the deal.

Posted by: rbpalmer

Interesting rumor. Shanahan is the only HC in the NFL outside of Denver that knows Marshall and knows if/how he can be coached/managed. Could make Marshall more valuable to us than any other team. Or Shanahan might know the talent isn't worth the problems he'll create.

Its pretty clear the coach in Denver thinks Marshall's a headache.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"I always thought of sex as a great stress reliever. But then I never had a performance problem."


The problem you don't have is not being married to a lawyer.

Sex with a lawyer is an activity where each act is a part of some negotiated exercise.

And thus, the stress.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

TY sween

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 29, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 5:00 PM |

ROFLMAO....I have never had that experience so i will defer on that one.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 29, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

am I missing something? I took Earth Sciences in school, I learned that climate changes, every year it's supposed to.

What's the big deal?

All the old global warming phd's are the same ones who were angling for research $$$ 30 years ago for the coming ice age as FNG phd's.

the problem is funding people who want to hang around college for 20-30 years because it's a lot more fun than a real job where you actually have to produce tangible results, not some bs, smoke screen paper that nobody but 8 other people in the world care about...

there are long term weather patterns like 40 and 70 year cycles

and the big point -- we are one volcanic eruption away from a year with no summer or a 10 year "cooling event"

now back to football

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 29, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Everyone should be given their right to Free Speech, which seems to hardly exist anymore because half the time a person's mouth gets them in trouble more than their actions.

Posted by: tony325

Wise saying: You have freedom of choice and freedom of speech, but you don't have freedom from consequences

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the Quran... I'm all for having 4 wives, but unfortunately the laws in this country won't allow it.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest, nobody really wants 4 wives. What you really want is 4 girlfriends.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 29, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

4 wives? One is a handfull.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 29, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"I took Earth Sciences in school, I learned that climate changes, every year it's supposed to."


I went to schools in poor neighborhoods in the South.

We learned that the more people ate beans and farted, the hotter it got.

And thus, climate change.

And if it didn't get hotter, the shifting wind direction would point out that air pollution was the real problem no one wanted to talk about.

Our hope to stay around to discuss.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest, nobody really wants 4 wives. What you really want is 4 girlfriends.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 29, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

_____________________________________

EXACTLY... unfortunately my fiance just doesn't understand that men weren't built to be monogamous.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

green conspiracy to create a one world govt and make loads of cash.

Courtesy of maurice strong currently living behind the curtain in china.

Sincerely, Jesse venturas conspiracy theory, hnnghh

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 29, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"Kurt Warner is done..."


Does this mean that in a matter of years, they'll be a HOF group comprised of C Samuels, B Favre, and K Warner?

And what if Issac Bruce and Torrie Holt hang it up as well?

We'll see.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

"Marshall and a 3rd rounder for Cooley and D. Thomas is an interesting rumour..."

Well, it's just that: a rumor.

I think there is so much talent in this year's draft we might find some stud receiver to place El in the lower rounds.

Heck, if the likes of P Garcon, M Colston, and A Collie can be found in low round or undrafted guys, we can find another one as well.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I think there is so much talent in this year's draft we might find some stud receiver to place El in the lower rounds.

Moe, you know I'm pushing for Antonio Brown WR C.Michigan (KR/PR) in rounds 5-7

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 29, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I know there are alot of Cooley fans on here.. As great as he is, with the adequate depth at TE.. the timing might be right to trade him....
Before the ankle injury he was having knee problems....
And speaking of the ankle. Its worrisome that there was no contact being made when he broke it. Just a quick reverse cut (buttonhook).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyH9rQKEJo8

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 29, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Bigamy is one wife too many. Monogamy is the ame.

Oscar Wilde

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Heck, if the likes of P Garcon, M Colston, and A Collie can be found in low round or undrafted guys, we can find another one as well.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Marko Mitchell?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

F Jason Reid

F Shaun Suisham

F Jim Zorn

Posted by: RedDMV

Xanax, Effexor or electroconvulsive therapy. Try one, before we recommend the traditional Lobotomy

Posted by: TheCork | January 29, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Bigamy is one wife too many. Monogamy is the ame.

Oscar Wilde

Posted by: zcezcest1

Funny line, but I'm not sure wives were ever that big an issue with Mr. Wilde.

Posted by: TheCork | January 29, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest, nobody really wants 4 wives. What you really want is 4 girlfriends.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 29, 2010 5:12 PM

As long as their mouths are sewn shut.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 29, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

EXACTLY... unfortunately my fiance just doesn't understand that men weren't built to be monogamous.

Posted by: tony325

Dude going into marriage with that point of view, I have two words of critical advice for you:

"Get a freaking pre-nup."

Posted by: TheCork | January 29, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

As long as their mouths are sewn shut.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 29, 2010 6:00 PM

Then how can they do the Clinton, this is not sex, act?

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 29, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why I said that. What I mean is mute.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 29, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"...Sex for money is a lot cheaper..."

It depends on whether or not if you're getting it or giving it.

Me?: I'm real cheap, I pay nothing for doing it to myself.

Less expensive and stressful that way.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Moe, some advice. Every time you self-service, put a dollar in a pickle jar. That seven bucks a week will really add up, and when you have enough cash, treat yourself to a nice hooker, you can fantasize about until the next time.

Posted by: TheCork | January 29, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- The NFL says Pro Bowl players Julius Peppers and Bryant McKinnie are subject to fines for missing practice.


Huh? Just one more reason for guys to skip the Pro Bowl completely.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

re: garçon and collie, I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say Manning makes WRs look good

If we drafted garçon he'd have 19 catches

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 29, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

am I missing something? I took Earth Sciences in school, I learned that climate changes, every year it's supposed to.

What's the big deal?

All the old global warming phd's are the same ones who were angling for research $$$ 30 years ago for the coming ice age as FNG phd's.

POSTED BY NOONEFROMTAMPA

Well that's a lie, and--please don't take this the wrong way but--you're an idiot.

The science isn't even in question, except by hysterical righties who put selfish need over, oh I dunno, the survival of the planet.

Unfortunately Teslas and Priases are too late. The Antarctic is calving off icebergs the size of Rhode Island, Greenland is pouring melt-water into the oceans at akll time record rates, the Maldives are toast, Glaciers are an endangered species, weather extremes are extrmier, and oh yeah--Permafrost? Don't ask. You definitely won't like the answer.

But yes, now let's get back to the all important question of "Will Red Snapper" hold off his latest challenge? Now that I[ve responded to your silly post.

Posted by: TheCork | January 29, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Free sex is cheaper...and freer.

RE: climate change.
Methane has three times the greenhouse effect of a similar emission of Carbon.
Livestock are creating a tangible effect on climate change.

So hamsters...pucker up.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 29, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Separation of Church and State.
Separation of Corporate and State
Separation of Church and Corporate.

Thats the only way that any of the three can work.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 29, 2010 4:21 PM

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Hey, Alex.

I currently live in Salt Lake City, Utah.

The LDS church (also known as "da Mormons") have a real good thing going here. They have seamlessly intertwined the institutions of the church, the corporation, and the state.

Basically... they control everything, and if you want in on the gig, you find a sponsor and join up, or you leave

like I am...


Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

"I took Earth Sciences in school, I learned that climate changes, every year it's supposed to."
- noonefromtampa

To be fair, he also thinks electricity comes from a giant potato.

Posted by: mack1 | January 29, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest, nobody really wants 4 wives. What you really want is 4 girlfriends.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 29, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

or about 50 of these. unfortunately, another commercial we won't see at the superbowl...

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metacafe.com%2Fwatch%2F2194409%2Ffunny_airways_commercial%2F&h=1c7ce9768c9a482dcee7b9d90daa0496

Posted by: RomoShortball | January 29, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

...they got polygamy too.
Now if they would relax on the booze thing.

Then there's Nevada.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 29, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

And as far as the global warming debate, in so far as there is any debate at all...

All other things being equal,

I'll take me some clean air over polluted air any day, any week, any month, any year, any epoch.

A hamster's gotta breathe, baby!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh the Mormons do get their drink and gambling on, and they don't have to go so far as Las Vegas to do it.

There's Wendover, NV, just over the border.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Bigamy is one wife too many. Monogamy is the ame.

Oscar Wilde

Posted by: zcezcest1

Funny line, but I'm not sure wives were ever that big an issue with Mr. Wilde.

Posted by: TheCork

Just providing the attribution, there. tony325 might want to pay attention. After all, there really is a reason why brides smile.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Salt Lake City has the 4th worst air in the world.

All these refineries and heavy industry and automobiles in a valley subject to another law of physics, a temperature inversion where cold air gets trapped beneath warmer air.

and you have some of the worst smog imaginable.

and we whistle dixie...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

oh and you'll be hard pressed to find a beer with an alcohol percentage over 4%, as mandated by state law.

and until very recently, you had to become a member and pay dues to some organization to even go out to a bar downtown.

get me the heck out of this place.

(beautiful mountains though, when you can see them)

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

-END RANT-

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

One last story.

I've lived all over the United States, and Salt Lake City stands out in one odd respect.

The folks here are actually very polite, but inquisitive in a way that might make a new comer feel uncomfortable.

People always want to know in what part of town you live, and to a very specific degree, and what you do for a living.

The church is organized into districts, known as wards, and inside every Mormon home, you will find a detailed list of the neighborhood residents, 80% of whom belong to the Church of Latter Day Saints.

As a general rule, people who compile lists that are not fantasy football related scare me.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

oh and you'll be hard pressed to find a beer with an alcohol percentage over 4%, as mandated by state law.

and until very recently, you had to become a member and pay dues to some organization to even go out to a bar downtown.

get me the heck out of this place.

(beautiful mountains though, when you can see them)

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 6:48 PM
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yeah.. not so poor (250M net worth) mitt romney... probably the most qualified of the republicans..(other issues aside).. Will most likely never see a nomination because of his LDS heritage...(GFather was a founder??).
Da mormons do know how to make money.. though.. HBO's Big Love shows that side of it pretty well..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 29, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

True, GM.

LDS church rakes in the cash, but like I said if you want a slice, you gotta join up; first join the church, and then some multi level marketing scheme.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

What really amazes me are the people that are sure that the climate isn't changing, or that man doesn't have any impact. It almost always 3-5 degrees warmer in a downtown area than it is 10 miles away in a less dense area.

The deniers will always be out there. But really, was Exxon ever going to agree with any scientific study that could harm its business? They do what they always ahve done, pay some scientists a bunch of money to call it into question.

Kind of like the bankers saying they need to pay these big bonuses to retain talented people -- like the ones who nearly bankrupted these 100 year old businesses.

Like the tobacco companies who said that cigs didn't cause cancer (heck for a while, they were supposed to make your healthier) and that they didn't put nicotine in them to make them addictive.

At some point, you have to decide if you are going to listen to people who are funded to say things by some very wealthy businesses who have a very vested interest in a specific conclusion. Most people learn to distrust those that are bought and paid for. But some people don't learn.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Harry Reid is Mormon as well.

and the LDS leadership was invited to the White House shortly after the inauguration.

Apparently, they signed up all of President Obama's ancestors, granting them eternal salvation. There was a photograph circulated showing them all leering over the first family's genealogical chart.

LDS also got into hot water a while back for doing the same thing with Holocaust victims, which pissed off a lot of Jewish folks, and rightfully so.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

There's only two spots on the o-line where you can make changes and be wrong, LG and LS. Oh wait, The SNAPPER is the union rep? O.K. now I get it. Heel boy, heel. YEE-HAW, good buddy!!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 29, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Most people learn to distrust those that are bought and paid for. But some people don't learn.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

A man after my own heart. Besides I made a bundle on PM already, so screw um'. Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 29, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Salt Lake City has the 4th worst air in the world.

All these refineries and heavy industry and automobiles in a valley subject to another law of physics, a temperature inversion where cold air gets trapped beneath warmer air.

and you have some of the worst smog imaginable.

and we whistle dixie...

Posted by: Chia_Pet

I never realized the air was so bad there.
Been to SLC area several times, though to places like Jordan and Orem. It probably been 10 years since I was there last. Did drive thru the mountains, past Sundance, really pretty stuff.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

So MORMANS are organized fascists moving to take over the world? Well, according to the WATCHTOWER there will be no room in heaven for these heathens. Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 29, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

The air is worst in the winter, due to the pollutant trapping effect

Outside of that, it's not that bad, and yes, these mountains are awe inspiring.

but they don't inspire me to join any church.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

CPet,
To go from Oregon Air© to the SLC inversion...it's just not right.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 29, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Albright, 38, is a 15-year veteran and has been with the Redskins since 2001. He's been a Redskin longer than any other player...

By Rick Maese | January 29, 2010; 2:31 PM ET

Wow, this post is 5 hours old and nobody caught this? The Red Snapper has been here 9 years, Chris Samuels has been here 10. I'm thinking that makes Samuels the longest tenured Redskin. Not to mention Mike Sellers has played 9 years here as well (although not consecutively). Maybe brush up on the roster, Maese...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 29, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Like I said...

The air is worst here in the winter, due to the pollutant trapping effect of the temperature inversion, and during the last ten years, me thinks the population of people, and cars has doubled, factors contributing to smog so thick you can't discern the beautiful ridge line of the Wasatch front, only ten miles from downtown.

Heck, you can't even see downtown from the interstate.

but yeah, zcezcest, Sundance is nice, as is Park City, and places like Heber, at the base of Mount Timpanagos.

the skiing and snowboarding are epic as well, but I can't currently afford that luxury...

and the people are pretty nice, despite their proselytizing and the monopoly on the government and the economy the LDS church has.

and yes stumped, I miss Portland, which ranks as best place I've ever lived.

maybe one day when I get things turned around, me and the family will make a happy return?

but who knows?

not me!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry--global warming won't last very long. Once enough arctic and Antarctic ice melts(freshwater) into our oceans, it will disrupt the way water circulates around the world. That means no more warm water for northeasterners and the Brits. Now where did i put my jeep keys? Time for a little off roadin'

Posted by: BigE44 | January 29, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

For all those who like to use stats as a starting point, look at what our boy Andre Carter did this year. Carter truly had a pro bowl season.

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excerpt from Football Outsiders

On defense, it's not just about tackles, it's also about where those tackles happen and what effect they have. We have two stats to reflect this:

Success Rate: The percentage of plays targeting a defensive player on which the offense did not have a successful play. This means not only incomplete passes and interceptions, but also short completions that do not meet the 45%/60%/100% baseline for success detailed in the description of DVOA.

Defeats: The total number of plays by a defensive player that prevent the offense from gaining first down yardage on third or fourth down, stop the offense behind the line of scrimmage, or result in a turnover. "Plays" refers to tackles, passes defensed, fumbles forced, or interceptions.

In short, Success Rate reflects gradations of defensive effectiveness, and Defeats indicate the ability to bring offensive drives to a quick close. Who had the best Success Rate and most Defeats at any defensive position in 2009?

Most Successes, Overall Defense

Justin Tuck, New York Giants, 55
Trent Cole, Philadelphia Eagles, 51
Aaron Schobel, Buffalo Bills, 50
Marques Douglas, New York Jets, 50
Andre Carter, Washington Redskins, 50

Most Defeats, Overall Defense

Aaron Schobel, Buffalo Bills, 30
Jared Allen, Minnesota Vikings, 27
Andre Carter, Washington Redskins, 26
Ray Edwards, Minnesota Vikings, 25
Trent Cole, Philadelphia Eagles, 23

Posted by: TWISI | January 29, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

stumped,

Ya'll in the Pacific Northwest do "benefit" from the copious quantities of industrial pollutants Chinese factories pump into the upper atmosphere.

All those heavy metals have to settle out somewhere.

I did read one study from Oregon State University that linked colder and wetter winters to this blow over from China phenomenon.

Good for the powder hounds on Mt. Hood.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I would think Andre Carter is guy you'd like to keep around.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I would think Andre Carter is guy you'd like to keep around.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 8:49 PM

On Redskins.com they list Carter at 253lbs. When you consider the type of year he had his play this past year was pretty impressive.

Posted by: TWISI | January 29, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

and what confounds me is that some folks say Orakpo is too slight to play DE.

I don't buy it.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"....some advice. Every time you self-service, put a dollar in a pickle jar. That seven bucks a week will really add up, and when you have enough cash, treat yourself to a nice hooker, you can fantasize about until the next time."


Nothing like sound financial advice.

I now have a way to create my own stimulus package.

Literally.

This idea will replace those idiotic commercials where some snarky digital talking baby is trying to get people to invest through some online service.

The motto will be you can save money in fifteen minutes or less.

Emphasis on the 'less'.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Cardinals’ Warner Walks Away After 12 Improbable Years..."


He might not have the numbers, but this dude is a HOF'er.

No questions asked.

And if B Favre, C Samuels, I Bruce, T Holt and K Mawae all retire, that's a heck of a class. (between Holt and Bruce, Holt always impressed)

But it wouldn't be as stellar as the one they will announce this week.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

"Cardinals’ Warner Walks Away After 12 Improbable Years..."

He might not have the numbers, but this dude is a HOF'er.

No questions asked.

And if B Favre, C Samuels, I Bruce, T Holt and K Mawae all retire, that's a heck of a class. (between Holt and Bruce, Holt always impressed)

But it wouldn't be as stellar as the one they will announce this week.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 29, 2010 9:12 PM
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Skins could of had him twice. when the Gints AND the Cards got him.. Would of been nice to of not wasted a top ranked Defense the last four years while waiting for JC to develop (whenever that will be?).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 29, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry--global warming won't last very long. Once enough arctic and Antarctic ice melts(freshwater) into our oceans, it will disrupt the way water circulates around the world. That means no more warm water for northeasterners and the Brits. Now where did i put my jeep keys? Time for a little off roadin'

Posted by: BigE44 | January 29, 2010 8:34 PM |
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nice post BIG@$$
Global Warming is part of a 18,000 year cycle. Only problem, 18000 years ago Gore's ancestors didnt write about it..
Its called Glacial interstitial.. We are on the back-end of the 18k year warming trend.. Scientists say it will keep warming for another 600 years.. And then go into reverse mode towards the next ice age. 5000 years from now they will be freaking about NYC being under ice, "Global Icing" (good news DC..Glaciers ice sheets didnt go any further south than Delaware).
If you live in NE...you can see this evidence in your backyard.. Glacial fields of large boulders carried 18,000 years ago.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 29, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

To be fair, he also thinks electricity comes from a giant potato.


Posted by: mack1 | January 29, 2010 6:31 PM
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Every knows that electricity comes from rubbing two furry things together like hamsters

SkinsneedaGM, good to see someone else not baffled by the global warming BS

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 30, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

The chairman of the leading climate change watchdog was informed that claims about melting Himalayan glaciers were false before the Copenhagen summit, The Times has learnt.

Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. He failed to act despite learning that the claim had been refuted by several leading glaciologists.

The IPCC’s report underpinned the proposals at Copenhagen for drastic cuts in global emissions.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 30, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

The Climate Research Unit, a preeminent Climate Change Organization was hacked recently with many files stolen and released on the internet. This is not going away and may snowball into a major issue.

One of the more interesting documents found refer to a famous "Hockey Stick" chart that preports to show the massive change in world temperature this century.

From the hack comes these cutting emails which appear to discuss altering the data to hide the fact that change has not been as dramatic as shown in the chart and to 'smooth out' data from 1930.

"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998."

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 30, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

chia... you sound like my wife...she is not a fan of the Mormon Church

Posted by: shally | January 30, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

noone,

You're both right and wrong at once.

Yes, much of the hyperbole surrounding the global warming debate is just that. I thought Al Gore's movie, and others like it, do more harm than good, in that they play directly into the hands of folks who are dismissive of global warming, like you seem to be.

The melodrama surrounding the science is unproductive.

In geologic time, yes... we are indisputably on the back end of a very long cycle... 18,000 years seems about right.

It is, however, scientific FACT that the "greenhouse gases," of which methane and carbon dioxide are two examples, human activity spews into the atmosphere, whether the source is from large dairy farms, the millions of automobiles we drive, or the coal fired power plants that supply our electricity, these artificial inputs accelerate what is otherwise a natural trend,

and the preponderance of the evidence suggests that the impact from these activities will be felt in our lifetime

and most of these effects are not good.

Hey man, as a general rule, perhaps you could agree that it is better to pollute less than it is to go on and on polluting more and more?

Whether its ozone, or carbon monoxide, or carbon dioxide, or methane, or mercury, or sulfur oxides, or nitrogen oxides, volatile organic compounds, or just plain old particulate matter.

We need to clean up our act.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 30, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Shally,

It's not that I'm not a fan of the Mormon church.

As I said, most of my personal experiences with Mormons has been good. I have found them to be very gracious, courteous people.

Compared to other religions, they also place an emphasis on higher education, which doesn't suck.

And they're very generous with food banks here in Utah and elsewhere.

I just think they should keep their noses out of government, and should stop trying to convert everyone and their dead grandmother.

and admit that ultimately they're more about exerting their power and influence than they are about good works.

plus, they are discriminatory of non-Mormons, which I'm thinking flies in the face of what this country is all about.

something about equal rights for all...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 30, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Then again I think all organized religion is a sham.

I don't need no darn priest to feel a closer affinity with God.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 30, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

The only person of any repute that I sorta admire, even though i disagree and just about everything politically with him, is Ed Begley Jr.

He is the only one that comes to mind that talks the talk and walks the walk.

All the others insist everyone below their station adhere to the theory, but it doesn't apply to them.

Now back to foozball.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 30, 2010 1:07 AM | Report abuse

it is the overt use of linked political power with the church that bothers her.. there were of course countless examples of church-state
fusions in historic eras in the past, but what they attempt in the US, while not unique, makes her very uncomfortable.. and i agree.

and it is just just in Utah that it is felt. throughout the mountain west they are a presence.. as you say, much of it is laudable, but some of it is at the least disquieting..

Posted by: shally | January 30, 2010 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Tebow's is just using the Super Bowl for his own exploitation. Why use the super bowl to talk about abortion? I don't want to hear that sh*t while I'm watching football. How much you want to bet how many arguments or maybe even fights will ensue.

_______________________________

I think it is more a case of Focus on the Family using Tebow, who apparently is too naive to see how this issue might actually harm his aspirations for an NFL career.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 30, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

The Antarctic is calving off icebergs the size of Rhode Island, Greenland is pouring melt-water into the oceans at akll time record rates, the Maldives are toast, Glaciers are an endangered species, weather extremes are extrmier, and oh yeah--Permafrost? Don't ask. You definitely won't like the answer.

But yes, now let's get back to the all important question of "Will Red Snapper" hold off his latest challenge? Now that I[ve responded to your silly post.

Posted by: TheCork | January 29, 2010 6:17 PM
______________________

Actually, NASA satellite imaging shows the Antarctic ice cover is growing. At the same time the Arctic ice cover is shrinking.

Sounds like there is some cyclical symmetry there.

As for climate change policy -- you can believe that the big insurance companies and risk evaluators/acceptors of the world are pushing for government to make it a man-made problem, so that the ponzi scheme of cap-and-trade provides funds for futile attempts at remediation. Because the main thing that worries the US is the gradual sea level rise that will affect most of the population centers that are concentrated around the coastal perimeter of the continental US.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 30, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Howard Zinn

A People's History

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 30, 2010 2:42 AM | Report abuse

unfortunately my fiance just doesn't understand that men weren't built to be monogamous.

Posted by: tony325 | January 29, 2010 5:20 PM

She understands it perfectly, despite what she's letting you think. What you don't seem to understand is that women weren't built to be monogamous, either. Good luck, you two lovebirds.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Albright, 38, is a 15-year veteran and has been with the Redskins since 2001. He's been a Redskin longer than any other player...

By Rick Maese | January 29, 2010; 2:31 PM ET

Wow, this post is 5 hours old and nobody caught this? The Red Snapper has been here 9 years, Chris Samuels has been here 10. I'm thinking that makes Samuels the longest tenured Redskin. Not to mention Mike Sellers has played 9 years here as well (although not consecutively). Maybe brush up on the roster, Maese...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 29, 2010 8:02 PM

Brownwood hasn't gotten the memo yet: Samuels is retired. He just hasn't held a press conference yet.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

NFL greed?

"NFL claims rights to 'Who dat,' angers New Orleans"


So now the No Fun League has cornered the ebonics market.

Wazzup wid dat?

Who do da league is it is?

Bro', dem folks need to chill wid dat noise, kno what'em sayin?

(Note: the previous ungrammatical comments are the sole linguistic and verbal properties of mistamoe, inc. llc, and should not be used in any context--commercial and otherwise--without written approval by the owner.)


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

"...unfortunately my fiance just doesn't understand that men weren't built to be monogamous."

What's also wierd is that women hate cheating men, but no man can cheat without a women's sly consent.

Then, in movies, songs, and air-headed sassy girl-talk they all deny their contribution to adultery and cheating, and sarcastically chant that, "All men are dogs."

Well, we wouldn't be chasing dogs if puzzy wasn't making itself so easy to get caught.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

There's only two spots on the o-line where you can make changes and be wrong, LG and LS. Oh wait, The SNAPPER is the union rep? O.K. now I get it. Heel boy, heel. YEE-HAW, good buddy!!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 29, 2010 7:15 PM

The Skins have a pretty clear pattern here. This is Albright's first season as union rep. Last season, it was Thrash ... and that was his last season. Before that, it was Troy Vincent ... and that was his last season. That's just two seasons. Roll back the clock a few years and my guess is that the pattern will have been repeating.

Also, I agree about all that on Carter ... and there can be no question that Haynesworth's presence unleashed Carter ... which is why I think he has extremely high trade value in a straight up trade at a position of shallower depth (e.g., offensive line or linebacker) ... and not for a draft pick, but for a player.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Wazzup wid dat?

Who do da league is it is?

Bro', dem folks need to chill wid dat noise, kno what'em sayin?


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 7:50 AM

Whoever's responsible for compiling the collection, "The Best of MistaMoe" needs to be sure this gem is included.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Bickering over "global warming" is a false discussion that the deniers are just catching up on. The reason the terminology changed (and not precisely enough) to global "climate change" is because climate patterns have become more erratic and consequences more violent. "Climate change" only indicates dynamism without nuance. The more precise term would be "global climate weirding." Until the deniers can square the imbalance of sub-terranean (sp?) and atmospheric carbon ... and the rapidness of the geologic shift between locations ... and the increasing climate weirdness, its all just non-thinking denial to perpetuate more extraction of fossil fuels. A compelling case has been made for a connection. The ball is in the court of the deniers' to refute the hypothesis with something more than denial and claims that the case presented is just hysteria.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

The Skins have a pretty clear pattern here. This is Albright's first season as union rep. Last season, it was Thrash ... and that was his last season. Before that, it was Troy Vincent ... and that was his last season. That's just two seasons. Roll back the clock a few years and my guess is that the pattern will have been repeating.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 9:01 AM

Makes you wonder why the players keep selecting end-of-the-liners as union reps. Average age of the reps is about 62. Maybe if they'd elect Orakpo or Haynesworth as their rep they'd keep the guy a little longer?

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The Skins have a pretty clear pattern here. This is Albright's first season as union rep. Last season, it was Thrash ... and that was his last season. Before that, it was Troy Vincent ... and that was his last season. That's just two seasons. Roll back the clock a few years and my guess is that the pattern will have been repeating.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 9:01 AM

Makes you wonder why the players keep selecting end-of-the-liners as union reps. Average age of the reps is about 62. Maybe if they'd elect Orakpo or Haynesworth as their rep they'd keep the guy a little longer?

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 9:18 AM
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Give me a break. Why would the team axe somebody because they are a union rep? The players just choose another who could be better or worse. As source says, this has more to do with the age of the union reps than it does the fact they are union reps. Albright is 39 years old. Unless your last name is Favre, that is ancient in football years. Albright is probably the most accurate snapper in the league, but getting down field and making tackles on teams is probably something he has slowed down on.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 30, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Give me a break. Why would the team axe somebody because they are a union rep?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 30, 2010 9:35 AM |

You know, in the case of Thrash, the Redskins gave him a front office job after he retired.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"You know, in the case of Thrash, the Redskins gave him a front office job after he retired."

James Thrash...?

Who dat?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Hey skinsneedagm

most of what is on tv is overhyped to get ratings. In terms of climate change I'll take my cup of hype from the likes of science channel, discovery channel, et al over fnc any day.

Is this horse dead like dems versus repubs, Campbell vs. Any other qb, zorn nice guy v bad coach, okung v berry v qb???

Posted by: BigE44 | January 30, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Most Successes, Overall Defense

Justin Tuck, New York Giants, 55
Trent Cole, Philadelphia Eagles, 51
Aaron Schobel, Buffalo Bills, 50
Marques Douglas, New York Jets, 50
Andre Carter, Washington Redskins, 50

Most Defeats, Overall Defense

Aaron Schobel, Buffalo Bills, 30
Jared Allen, Minnesota Vikings, 27
Andre Carter, Washington Redskins, 26
Ray Edwards, Minnesota Vikings, 25
Trent Cole, Philadelphia Eagles, 23


Posted by: TWISI | January 29, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse
Thanks TWISI, for those cool stats. I followed up by going to your site, footballoutsiders.com, and found it very interesting.

For anyone who doesn't think AHaynie is worth it, listen to the following stat. Our defensive line ranked 14th in overall defensive line, but was ranked #1 in power ranking for D lines. That is a measure of how often D was successful in stopping offense on 3rd or 4th down with 2 yards or less to go.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Here's another interesting stat from footballoutsiders.com. Our pass defense was weakest against the #2 receiver and the RB, as opposed to the #1 receiver. Any thoughts on why that would be the case.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if ne of yall can help me!!

I was juss curious what did we give up in the 2005 draft to aquire Jason Campbell and what do yall believe is trade value this offseason because i believe this offeason we could recieve a late 2nd or a early third..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | January 30, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if ne of yall can help me!!

I was juss curious what did we give up in the 2005 draft to aquire Jason Campbell and what do yall believe is trade value this offseason because i believe this offeason we could recieve a late 2nd or a early third..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | January 30, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse
In 2005 draft, we traded our 3rd pick in 2005 plus our 1st and 4th rd picks in 2006. So in essense, we gave up a 2nd, 3rd and 5th for a late 1st rd pick.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | January 30, 2010 10:27 AM

The Redskins traded up in the draft to get Campbell. They surrendered a first, third, and fourth round pick to get the first round 25th pick from the Broncos.

So essentially 2 1st's, a 3rd, & a 4th. It didn't make any sense at the time of the trade either.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

@ Diesel44

Thank man i appreciate it I was looking everywhere to find dat

I honestly believe with this new management we could get sumbody to over bid for Campbell!!

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | January 30, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | January 30, 2010 10:47 AM

Wikipedia is usually right and is easy to use for us football morons.

To fredie's point. A future 1st is usually equivalent to a 2nd in this year's draft.

I used the actually cost of the trade to get to pick #25 and then added the pick used to take him. Total acquisition cost.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

All things are possible at this point for the 2010 season, trades for picks, trade down for picks, picks of which we only have five, RFA's for picks, and FA's. We need more picks to fix this broken wheel of an offense. Sign CAMPBELL, trade PORTIS for KWAME BROWN, and let's get this show on the road. Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins traded up in the draft to get Campbell. They surrendered a first, third, and fourth round pick to get the first round 25th pick from the Broncos.

So essentially 2 1st's, a 3rd, & a 4th. It didn't make any sense at the time of the trade either.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

And even LESS sense now. Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 11:01 AM

The new sign off is a nice touch. Sure beats those people that simply sign their name.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 11:04 AM

Buy high, sell low...The skins are no Gordon Gecko.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

For all the trade Cooley rumours and hypotheticals, I say if we trade a tight end trade Davis. Not sold on Davis. Cooley is a stud TE, top 3 in the league IMO (with Witten & Davis). & we don't need WR - keep Moss, Thomas, Malcolm & Marko. Dump ARE. They are are serviceable and Thomas is really coming into his own. O-line O-line O-line !!!!! And how about Portis for Bailey & a 2nd rounder?? jk

Posted by: scoot21 | January 30, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | January 30, 2010 10:47 AM

Wikipedia is usually right and is easy to use for us football morons.

To fredie's point. A future 1st is usually equivalent to a 2nd in this year's draft.

I used the actually cost of the trade to get to pick #25 and then added the pick used to take him. Total acquisition cost.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse
I disagree with your logic, or your math, Diesel. Here's my math:

I agree with your statement that a future 1st is equivalent to a current 2nd. Our 1st rd pick was used to draft CRogers. Then we traded our 05 3rd pick, our 06 1st pick (= to 05 2nd) and our 06 4th pick(= to 05 5th pick). So we gave up 3 picks to get one in the late 1st. We gave up the equivalent of a 2nd a 3rd and a 5th in the current year. We got a 1st rd pick, but we did not use the equivalent of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th!

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

To be fair, he also thinks electricity comes from a giant potato.


Posted by: mack1 | January 29, 2010 6:31 PM
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Every knows that electricity comes from rubbing two furry things together like hamsters

SkinsneedaGM, good to see someone else not baffled by the global warming BS

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 30, 2010 12:03 AM

Hey noonefromtampa, I was just teasing you because, you know, you're darn stupid.

Posted by: mack1 | January 30, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

To be fair, he also thinks electricity comes from a giant potato.

Posted by: mack1 | January 29, 2010 6:31 PM
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Every knows that electricity comes from rubbing two furry things together like hamsters

SkinsneedaGM, good to see someone else not baffled by the global warming BS

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 30, 2010 12:03 AM

Hey noonefromtampa, I was just teasing you because, you know, you're darn stupid.

Posted by: mack1 | January 30, 2010 11:13 AM
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Yes, but he seems to be a genius when it comes to hamsters... not that there's anything wrong with that...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 30, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 11:04 AM

Buy high, sell low...The skins are no Gordon Gecko.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Dude, how did you know my name? Diesel44, you are an inspiration. Going to MIAMI, OKLA. tomorrow to pick up two FOX Hounds. Say dies...., how do you know you 'se a re-e-e-d-neck? Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RomoShortball | January 30, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Redskins need to get younger across the board. Anyone born before 1980 must go (sorry Red Snapper you're history).

Posted by: VegasJim | January 30, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 11:12 AM

You and your facts...

So your right. This is what we traded for JC: 2005 76th overall pick and in 2006 the 22nd overall pick and 119th overall pick.

Mark it down, I was wrong on Jan 30 @ 10:54 am.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"......trade Davis. Not sold on Davis. Cooley is a stud TE, top 3 in the league IMO (with Witten & Davis)......"

Posted by: scoot21 | January 30, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Ding, ding, ding, ding. DAVIS done got de bored hans, everything he miss is a pick. An I doone mean his nose neither. Yee-Haw good buddy. Hey diesel44 - too much?

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Bickering over "global warming" is a false discussion that the deniers are just catching up on. The reason the terminology changed (and not precisely enough) to global "climate change" is because climate patterns have become more erratic and consequences more violent. "Climate change" only indicates dynamism without nuance. The more precise term would be "global climate weirding." Until the deniers can square the imbalance of sub-terranean (sp?) and atmospheric carbon ... and the rapidness of the geologic shift between locations ... and the increasing climate weirdness, its all just non-thinking denial to perpetuate more extraction of fossil fuels. A compelling case has been made for a connection. The ball is in the court of the deniers' to refute the hypothesis with something more than denial and claims that the case presented is just hysteria.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 9:07
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I believe there is such a thing as global warming. I just don't see the "compelling evidence" that says it is mankind that is creating global warming. In Earth's history there have been many periods of global warming - and mankind wasn't even around. It amazes me that everyone knows there was an ice age, and yet they blindly resist the argument that there have periodically been periods in tie when the temperature cycled the other way. I will argue all day that we need to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere - along with the reduction of mercury in our oceans - but the statistician in me does not see any statistically relevant evidence that man has caused the temperatures to fluctuate. What we are doing now is the equivalent of watching it rain everyday, one day stubbing your toe in the rain, and thereafter blaming the rain for making your toe hurt. That global warming caused by mankind could happen is undeniable, that it is happening is debateable.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 30, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

You and your facts...

So your right. This is what we traded for JC: 2005 76th overall pick and in 2006 the 22nd overall pick and 119th overall pick.

Mark it down, I was wrong on Jan 30 @ 10:54 am.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse
That's just what we nerdy accountants do all the time. Actually, I'm just trying to keep the correct perspective on things. It would have been crazy to give up 2 1st, a 2nd and a 4th. It's bad enough what we gave up. But the equivalent of a 2, a 3 and a 5 doesn't seem quite so unreasonable.

If I remember correctly, Aaron Rogers was just taken a pick or 2 before we traded to get JC. I suspect that JGibbs was thinking he would be happy with either, but when one went, he jumped up to get the other.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Bickering over "global warming" is a false discussion that the deniers are just catching up on.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 9:07
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I believe there is such a thing as global warming. I just don't see the "compelling evidence" that says it is mankind that is creating global warming.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 30, 2010 11:34 AM

Uh, oh RedSkinHead, there are names for people like you: deniers. You're not skeptical, or unconvinced, but a denier. The global warming crowd is resorting to name-calling sort of like a religious movement which labels non-believers as heretics or infidels.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

If I remember correctly, Aaron Rogers was just taken a pick or 2 before we traded to get JC. I suspect that JGibbs was thinking he would be happy with either, but when one went, he jumped up to get the other.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 11:45 AM

9. C. Rodgers
11. Ware
12. Merriman
24. A. Rodgers
25. Campbell

Campbell was the pick all along. That's why we traded up BEFORE the draft and every other team knew our intentions and still no other team jumped ahead of us for JC.

I wish that 2005 scouting trip to Auburn never happened.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

That's why we traded up BEFORE the draft and every other team knew our intentions and still no other team jumped ahead of us for JC.

I wish that 2005 scouting trip to Auburn never happened.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse
Where did you hear that it was done before the draft? I only remember it being announced when that selection was due. Not saying you're wrong, just don't recall that.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Trade PORTIS for a third to DENVER, and HAYNESWORTH for a first and sixth to SAN FRAN.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey, good buddies, let's talk trades. Start some new bickering. Yee-Haw.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 12:09 PM

Trade for the 25th pick happened April 19 2005.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2005draft/2005-04-19-redskins-broncos-deal_x.htm


The 2005 NFL Draft was was held April 23-24, 2005.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I will trade my wife and one of my kids for a 2nd and 4th this year and 1st next year...

Just don't tell her...

Posted by: WRBD | January 30, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2005draft/2005-04-19-redskins-broncos-deal_x.htm


The 2005 NFL Draft was was held April 23-24, 2005.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse
Thanks, Diesel. I did not recall that.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Here's another interesting stat from footballoutsiders.com. Our pass defense was weakest against the #2 receiver and the RB, as opposed to the #1 receiver. Any thoughts on why that would be the case.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 10:16 AM

Because the corner on the #2 guy (typically Hall) is overrated and takes plays off.

RSH, fossil fuel doesn't release themselves from their geologic resting place. Whether its warming or weirding, their are levels of gaseous carbon in the atmosphere that haven't (in geologic history) been as high as they are currently, or at least, have not released over such a short period of time (in comparison to the carbon that gets trapped on the surface and below). The cycling of carbon (which happens over epochs) is way out of whack.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

... You're not skeptical, or unconvinced, but a denier. The global warming crowd is resorting to name-calling sort of like a religious movement which labels non-believers as heretics or infidels.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 11:53 AM

And there are names for people who can't comprehend the point of a discussion but want to join in any way and try to act clever ... they are called talent evaluators or league sources.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Because the corner on the #2 guy (typically Hall) is overrated and takes plays off.
Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse
I'm wondering if was a different type of coverage that caused this stat. I think Hall is better at zone coverage. I suspect CRogers was mainly a clamp-down single coverage guy, and they deployed more zone on other side.

Nevertheless, Hall has great ball skills, but is not as good at coverage.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 30, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE me a long-snapper controversy!

Posted by: stwasm | January 30, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

And there are names for people who can't comprehend the point of a discussion but want to join in any way and try to act clever ... they are called talent evaluators or league sources.

Posted by: dcsween | January 30, 2010 1:03 PM

Thanks for your feedback, Mr. Big Stuff.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"Our pass defense was weakest against the #2 receiver and the RB, as opposed to the #1 receiver. Any thoughts on why that would be the case?"


Who ever covered the slot receiver (Tyron/Smoot) or the check down back (McIntosh/Orakpo/Fletcher/Landry) failed is the explanation.

I'd like to know who got abused the most in coverage against a tight end. I'll bet it was McIntosh.

Again: the team needs another corner and linebackers (2) with cover skills if it's going to experiment with a new scheme.

Too, the issue of L Landry's mediocre safety play (he's like a small blanket in that he can't cover anything) has to be addressed as well.

Landry, McIntosh, Tyron, and Smoot: those guys have the coverage issues the numbers portray.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"Portrait of Reality, as Told by Vick"

It's my understanding that the portrait Mr. Vick is going to present is very much like those cheesy 1970s paintings of bulldogs in a pool hall hustling for money as other canines watch plaintively.

'Cept in the new portrait, Mr. Vick is the one pimping dogs for money.

And when you remember the jibba-jabba his return to the NFL generated, and then play it against the mediocre season he spent with the iggles, Vick should come across like so many failed celebrities trying to squeeze 15 more minutes out of fame's clock.

We wish him the best.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

"Portrait of Reality, as Told by Vick"

It's my understanding that the portrait Mr. Vick is going to present is very much like those cheesy 1970s paintings of bulldogs in a pool hall hustling for money as other canines watch plaintively.

'Cept in the new portrait, Mr. Vick is the one pimping dogs for money.

And when you remember the jibba-jabba his return to the NFL generated, and then play it against the mediocre season he spent with the iggles, Vick should come across like so many failed celebrities trying to squeeze 15 more minutes out of fame's clock.

We wish him the best.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

"Portrait of Reality, as Told by Vick"

It's my understanding that the portrait Mr. Vick is going to present is very much like those cheesy 1970s paintings of bulldogs in a pool hall hustling for money as other canines watch plaintively.

'Cept in the new portrait, Mr. Vick is the one pimping dogs for money.

And when you remember the jibba-jabba his return to the NFL generated, and then play it against the mediocre season he spent with the iggles, Vick should come across like so many failed celebrities trying to squeeze 15 more minutes out of fame's clock.

We wish him the best.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 30, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

1 - left tackle
2 - right tackle
4 - center/guard
5 - LB
7 - LB

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | January 30, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

You silly Americans.

Your inept congressman and women applaud your equally inept chief executive while he delivers a the State of the Union address, one of the weakest displays of leadership in recent memory, a cacophony of empty rhetoric.

Your system of government is dysfunctional.

and meanwhile:

TIANJIN, China — China vaulted past competitors in Denmark, Germany, Spain and the United States last year to become the world’s largest maker of wind turbines, and is poised to expand even further this year.

China has also leapfrogged the West in the last two years to emerge as the world’s largest manufacturer of solar panels. And the country is pushing equally hard to build nuclear reactors and the most efficient types of coal power plants.

These efforts to dominate the global manufacture of renewable energy technologies raise the prospect that the West may someday trade its dependence on oil from the Mideast for a reliance on solar panels, wind turbines and other gear manufactured in China.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

We're not worried about renewable energy Rottfrau. We're worried about what the Skins are gonna do with their 4th round pick. Get your priorities straight man.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 30, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

With the 4th pick in the 2010 draft, the Washington Redskins select Jimmy Claussen, QB from Notre Dame.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

With the 4th pick in the 2010 draft, the Washington Redskins select Jimmy Claussen, QB from Notre Dame.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 3:55 PM

Rot-

You've finally gone tooooo far. How dare you, do you have a soul?

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Diesel,

You know, Claussen might be the franchise QB the Redskins need.

He has many supporters, and one could make a strong case for the young man from Notre Dame.

In fact, if we take a QB with that first pick, he might be the one guy we want.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE me a long-snapper controversy!

Posted by: stwasm | January 30, 2010 1:15 PM |
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"Long Snapper"
You got to love a job that pays about a half a million per year and only requires about a dozen physical exertions, between the legs, on weekends.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 30, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:02 PM

I agree about Clausen over Bradford but I'd perfer to trade down or take Okung.

QB is a need but not ahead of OL.

I'd take Dan LeFevour in the 4th.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

If we're gonna take a QB, I'd go with a Chinese guy. They're gonna rule the world. Li Shzu Yorxi put up really good numbers at Beijing Tech this year, and he could be the guy. And, if he doesn't hack it at QB, he did major in renewable energy and could probably save bundles by rewiring FedEx.

Posted by: League-Source | January 30, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Clausen finished his freshman year having completed 56.3% of his passes for 1254 yards, with 7 touchdowns and 6 interceptions and a passing efficiency of 103.85, and he was sacked a team-record 34 times.

During his sophomore season, he completed 60.9% of his passes for 3172 yards, 25 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and a 132.5 efficiency rating. He led the Fighting Irish to a 7-6 record, culminating in a 49-21 victory against Hawaii in the Sheraton Hawai'i Bowl — which ended Notre Dame's NCAA-record nine-game bowl losing streak. Clausen set Notre Dame bowl records with 406 yards passing and five touchdowns and was named the bowl's co-MVP.

In October 2009, Clausen was named midseason All-American by The Sporting News. His finished his junior season with 3,722 yards passing, a 68.8% completion rate, 161.42 passer rating, 28 touchdowns, and four interceptions.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

So what we see with Clausen is steady progress over the course of his career at Notre Dame, and he played in a big time program under a NFL style coach.

And we won't see a Chinese QB anymore than we'll see a Jewish one.

They're too smart for that.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Taylor Mays is wearing #21 in the Senior Bowl.

I'm not making any other comparison....just saying he's wearing #21.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Dan LeFevour will not be available in the later rounds.

Scouts from various team are onto him. He's "shooting up the board," as you Americans say.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:21 PM

You're right.

That probably means we can't take Iupati OG in the 2nd, LeFevour QB in the 4th, McCluster RB/WR in the 5th, and Roddrick Muckelroy OLB in the 7th.

So much for my mock draft.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

McCluster is a guy who may be able to help a team in many different ways, but his schnitzel is too wiener.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Any Darren Sproles comparisons are premature.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:32 PM

The experts said that Desean Jackson's schnitzel was too wiener too.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

The guy is clearly overrated. Notre Dame had some of the best skill players in the country. Three of them will probably be first round picks (Tate, Floyd, and Rudolph) and they have a relatively weak schedule year in and year out. Clausen is not worthy of a top 5 or top 10 pick. He played for a offensive genius and his team never finished with a winning record during the regular season. In the NFL he wont have superior talent. He is a less successful version of Brady Quinn. The only way the skins should take him is if he falls to the second.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 30, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Das stimmt.

(true)

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

This flat earth stuff is amazing. Rotfrau post on here from half a world away. According to him, and I have no reason to doubt it, he's a well traveled and educated person who has experienced and appreciates many different places and cultures. Yet despite all that, he still manages to bore me just the same as any other blowhard MF'er up here. Whether they're from across the country, the county or the street. Small, crappy world.

Posted by: mack1 | January 30, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

True about McCluster.

King Joffer is wrong about Clausen.

He has been groomed to be a star QB from the time he was in a stroller and he appears to have the intangible leadership qualities you need in a field general.

Notre Dame is a first class program, no matter how you slice your Brötchen.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Someone is "blowing" mack1 hard, and yet he has such a positive outlook?

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Someone is "blowing" mack1 hard, and yet he has such a positive outlook?

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 4:49 PM

He hates us stupid Americans more than you.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Notre Dame's record with Clausen:

2007: 3-9
2008: 7-6
2009: 6-6

It doesnt matter if someone was groomed to be a star qb, he is not a winner. Other qbs have flashed that trait. Flacco led Delaware to a national championship appearance. Ryan led his team to the ACC championship. Clausen beat Hawaii in the Hawaii bowl. He is overrated. You must not get ND games across the pond. If you would have seen him play, you would realize that Golden Tate bailed him out each and every week, making impossible catches and taking 5 yard slants into 70 yard touchdowns. I dont think he is garbage, but I definitely dont think he is a "franchise" qb.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 30, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Notre Dame's record with Clausen:

2007: 3-9
2008: 7-6
2009: 6-6


Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer

The best player on a losing team is still a LOSER.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | January 30, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Tebow could make it as a long snapper because he has NO future as a position player.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 30, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

These efforts to dominate the global manufacture of renewable energy technologies raise the prospect that the West may someday trade its dependence on oil from the Mideast for a reliance on solar panels, wind turbines and other gear manufactured in China.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 30, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

This from a personage who didn't profess to understand the term "troll."

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

The best player on a losing team is still a LOSER.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | January 30, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Could he have been any better with winners?

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

can't play Orakpo and Carter as your two starting DEs, because neither has the bulk or strength at the point of attack to be an every-down left DE (See Taylor, Jason). Most offenses tend to run more to the right, where the tight end usually lines up. So you need more of a Phillip Daniels-Jeremy Jarmon size and strength guy on the left side, instead of speed guys like Orakpo and Carter.

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 29, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Really? See: Tuck & Strahan or Minnesota's Allen and Edwards


Tuck is listed as 274 and Edwards at 268. Jarmon is like 275. 270 seems to be the accepted size for a LE in a 4-3, and neither Orakpo or Carter break 260. I can't see either of them at LE full time, unless we drafted or signed a monster of a SAM. I remember how depressing it was watching Jason Taylor get knocked around like a pin ball on strong side running plays.

Posted by: kenboy1 | February 1, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

The best player on a losing team is still a LOSER.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | January 30, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Could he have been any better with winners?

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2010 7:35 PM

I guess that makes Sonny Jurgensen a loser, cause he sure had many more losing seasons than winning. Just to be clear, Sonny aint no loser.

Posted by: kenboy1 | February 1, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

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