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Redskins Sign Two To Futures Contracts

The Redskins have signed kicker Dave Rayner and running back-kick returner Dominique Dorsey, the team announced.

Both were signed to futures contracts, making them in essence extra bodies for the offseason. Rayner should provide some degree of competition to Shaun Suisham, in theory, during camp, though he lacks any NFL pedigree. It's nothing like going out and spending actual money on a proven NFL kicker (but again, don't expect too much in the spending department around here).


Rayner has been with seven different teams since entering the league in 2005 as a 6th round pick of the Colts. He spent all of 2006 with the Packers but is a journeyman's journeyman. Last year Suisham had no other kickers in camp, and he is coming off one of the worst seasons in the league.

Dorsey, 5-7 and 170 pounds, spent the last three years as a return specialist and running back in the Canadian Football League. He earned the John Agro Special Teams Award as the league's most outstanding special teams player.

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 4, 2009; 3:14 PM ET
 
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Posted by: Gworld | February 4, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Seems like all the Skins need is ONE (very short but) competent punt returner willing to run north-south occasionally.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

sween
Shh stop with the logic

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

JLC you fat D-bag!!!!! It took you that long to think of a back handed way to rip the FO!!! What are you doing if you're not posting to the blog? Stalking Vinny? Going through is trash!!! Breaking into his house and sniffing his underroos?? You are a hack, go back to the Verizon commercials....Can you hear me now?

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 4, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

suisham sucks

off my team!

Posted by: jrak1 | February 4, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

we tried kicking suisham off the team but missed.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"It's nothing like going out and spending actual money on a proven NFL kicker (but again, don't expect too much in the spending department around here)."

Jsaaa-son! Buddd-y! You and I both know Vinny would do whatever it takes in the dinero department....

he's just waiting to find a big name kicker with no leg left

Posted by: mdrockjock | February 4, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Would be awesome if Matt Staford fell to #13, we could for sure negotiate with Detroit if that happens.

Posted by: matthewvickers | February 4, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse
I think he will go #1 to the Lions, #3 to the Chiefs, or #10 to 49ers. I can't imagine he falls to us.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 4, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frediefritz | February 4, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Should have added to 3:47 post that, even more likely, someone will trade up to #8 or 9 and drafts Stafford before 9er's have a shot at #10.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 4, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

we tried kicking suisham off the team but missed.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2009 3:47 PM

Pretty Funny

Posted by: GreatOne1 | February 4, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

two words:

me likey!

I think Canadian league talent is somewhat underrated, as is arena talent. I think the higher eschelon players there could show some NFL folks some stuff.

Oronde Gadsden always thought Arena league secondaries were as a whole better having to deal with running-start receivers.

And anything to get the kicking team some competition...

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing that Dominique Dorsey was only signed because he has the same physical stature as Darren Sproles.

And Jason, you better be right about the team not spending money on free agents this offseason. You harped on it a good deal.

Consider this your first 'Insider' litmus test. Lets see if you really got inside connections.

BTW, hows that Bruce Allen thing coming along?

Posted by: Predator48 | February 4, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

JLC you fat D-bag!!!!! It took you that long to think of a back handed way to rip the FO!!! What are you doing if you're not posting to the blog? Stalking Vinny? Going through is trash!!! Breaking into his house and sniffing his underroos?? You are a hack, go back to the Verizon commercials....Can you hear me now?

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 4, 2009 3:40 PM

Wow.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 4, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

BTW, hows that Bruce Allen thing coming along?

Posted by: Predator48

Hopefully not well...

Posted by: rich20ssu | February 4, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

4th, that's the development I referred to in my post. I passed by there a month ago and I didn't notice it was in bad shape but I only looked on the southbound side of Route 1/Rhode Island Ave. Is it a mess on both sides of the street or on the northbound side that is the second part of the project?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 3, 2009 3:42 PM

I'm prob talking about the 2nd part (around Dematha). It's more of a mess to me because the development all of a sudden stopped.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Predator, a week or three ago, Jasno's "roster reviews" did project ONE plash signing (depending the Hall signability results).

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I think we need to find a way to get rid of one of the oldish veterans and acquire an extra 1st round pick. I wonder how much Jason Campbell would fetch from Carolina, i guarantee you if he was in that system he would be a pro bowl QB.

Any way, if we ever do have the chance to acquire a 1st round pick, here is what we do with it. So we have 2 1sts in some year. We use the higher pick, and trade the 2nd one for another 1st next year and a 3 or a 4 round pick. Every year we do the same, extracting an extra 3-4 which after 10 years should yield an extra 6 or 7 players who make an impact on the team, either starting (if cerrato is gone) or in management (if he is not). Just kidding on the latter. With an extra 3rd rounder every year we could pick up stud special teamers at least and starters at best.

Posted by: DaFunBunch | February 4, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else see the MSN Mock Draft with the skins taking CB Jenkins from OSU???? Does that really make a lot of sense?

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 4, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I think we could pick up an OL in the 3rd round and in free agency - Steelers are going to have to part with at least one, plus other teams do have avg OL. Pick up DL in first round or stud LB....but not a CB our DB were pretty good, even before D. Hall came into town.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 4, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

What's spooky down here in MIA are all the developments standing empty and/or in partial build.

It's an eerie ghost town. And we're "in season" now.

very much looking forward to the DC move!! woo hoo!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

5-7 and 170 pounds -BOOO
last three years in the Canadian Football League- BOOO (CFL? c'mon, very rare to get a quality player outta there. not sayin it hasnt happened before).

We need a return specialist and a good kicker, both these 2 guys sound like wash ups.

Posted by: erleach | February 4, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea of signing cheap, young, athletic guy that at least is proven in some professional manner. My guess is that he had trouble making it in this league because of his stature. Hopefully he's more than just another body.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else see the MSN Mock Draft with the skins taking CB Jenkins from OSU???? Does that really make a lot of sense?

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 4, 2009 4:28 PM


Im telling you the skins are going to draft malcom jenkins, check the end of the last post i detailed how it was going to happen.

to sum it up. the skins draft Malcom jenkins and trade carlos rogers for a second round pick. with the second round pick they draft an OL. and on the second day they draft an OL, DL, and a OLB

Posted by: GreatOne1 | February 4, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I was astonished at all the negative remarks concerning Shaun Sushiam this past season, the guy had three different holders over a period of two seasons and still kicked very well and now we want to bring in competition? yeah that'll make Suisham feel real secure I have never seen a team and a front office that loves change for the sake of change i.e.Ryan Clark,Antonio Pierce,Derrick Dockerey all these guys were drafted by us but all allowed to go elsewhere and for what? a slow footed wannabe(Adam Archuletta),a worn out free agent guard who can't practice on a consistent basis(Pete Kendall) and we wouldn't give two up and comers(Ryan Clark,Antonio Pierce)modest raises and now they both have Super Bowl ring's. I don't know what it is but we don't seem to value our "own players" but we love to chase the wannabe's that are only interested in Dan and Vinnie's cash and have no loyalty to the cause.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 4, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Skins are drafting a real General Manager in the first round. Then, disappointed with the water boy, we trade up for the Steelers Water boy for the bang up job he did in the Super Bowl.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 4, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

JLC you fat D-bag!!!!! It took you that long to think of a back handed way to rip the FO!!! What are you doing if you're not posting to the blog? Stalking Vinny? Going through is trash!!! Breaking into his house and sniffing his underroos?? You are a hack, go back to the Verizon commercials....Can you hear me now?

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 4, 2009 3:40 PM

Wow.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 4, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Dhaze,
It's okay, he'll get better when the meds kick in.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 4, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

+++JLC you fat D-bag!!!!! It took you that long to think of a back handed way to rip the FO!!! What are you doing if you're not posting to the blog? Stalking Vinny? Going through is trash!!! Breaking into his house and sniffing his underroos?? You are a hack, go back to the Verizon commercials....Can you hear me now?

Posted by: drewkinnear+++

You have the Post's address to send your resume, right? Be sure to include some classy clips. "You fat D-bag" and "sniffing his underoos" is the kind of wordsmithery that has Pulitzer written all over it.

Question. How did you find out what Vinny's choice is in undergarments? Oh. I thought so.

Posted by: TheCork | February 4, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

+++Did anyone else see the MSN Mock Draft with the skins taking CB Jenkins from OSU???? Does that really make a lot of sense?

Posted by: mhartz1 +++

No, which is probably why it will happen.

Posted by: TheCork | February 4, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I've heard that the Raiders waterboy is going to become a free agent this year - I believe his name is Robert Bouchet.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 4, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

+++ My guess is that he had trouble making it in this league because of his stature. Hopefully he's more than just another body.

Posted by: psps23 +++

Actually at a buck-seventy he's not more than another body, he's about half a body. His stature (5/7") is fine--same as the guy he might replace, Cartwright, but Rock has about 45 pounds on him.

Posted by: TheCork | February 4, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

++I've heard that the Raiders waterboy is going to become a free agent this year - I believe his name is Robert Bouchet.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston +++

i knew his late brother, Kiktha

Posted by: TheCork | February 4, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Sushiam was the worst kicker in the league, with over 20 attempts. He had only a 72% completion percentage and his longest field goal was 50 yds. He was very inconsistent from 45 yds and up.

Yes, some of the missed field goals can be attributed to holders (BTW, I still believe the backup QB should always be a holder and not the punter...) and poor special team blocking. However, there are several free agent field goal kickers available who would be more consistent from long distances.

NFL teams should always bring in competition every year. There are a limited number of jobs and every player should earn their position; even established vets.

Posted by: siris | February 4, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

sorry mrs jlc

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 4, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Frost was a QB. Good holder. And he could tackle.

Bobby Bouchet don't be playin dat fooseball now!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Out goes Thrash, in comes Dorsey. We need
more smurfs!

Posted by: madalao | February 4, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Redskins sign kicker Rayner

Associated Press

ASHBURN, Va. -- The Washington Redskins signed kicker Dave Rayner on Wednesday, giving incumbent Shaun Suisham a possible competitor during training camp.

Rayner has played for five teams in four seasons since being picked by Indianapolis in the sixth round of the 2005 draft out of Michigan State. His best season came with Green Bay in 2006, when he made 26 of 35 field goal attempts.

Last season, he spent two games on Cincinnati's roster while regular kicker Shayne Graham was injured. Rayner made his only field goal attempt with the Bengals, a 26-yarder.

Rayner has also played for Kansas City and San Diego.

Suisham started well last year but struggled late in the season. He made 26 of 36 attempts, the worst accuracy rate among kickers with more than 10 attempts.

The Redskins also signed running back-kick returner Dominique Dorsey, who spent the last three years in the CFL. He was chosen the league's most outstanding special teams player in 2008.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

Posted by: siris | February 4, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

What is the status on D. Hall? Are they even discussing an extension or what? FA starts in a few weeks....Better get moving. I do not think the Skins will or be able to sign him once he hits the market.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

This guy Raynor sounds washed up just like Suisham....god, they can't draft a top kicker?

Posted by: mikemcclure | February 4, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

KEEP DHALL!!!!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Remember when we drafted a top punter?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 4, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Good that they are sending a message to their kicker right away. Dorsey is too small for the NFL. He might squeak by as a returner but I see him having no chance as a running back. Could you imagine what Ray Lewis would do to a 170 pound back? Please. I don't want to see it.

Vinny, you have to do better than this and please, no Tony Gonzalez trade rumors, okay?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Tony Gonzalez?! Ew.

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Frost was a QB. Good holder. And he could tackle.

Bobby Bouchet don't be playin dat fooseball now!

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2009 5:34 PM

Just sign Vicki Vallancourt, she'll show him her boobies and he'll like dem too!

Posted by: Predator48 | February 4, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Insider: After Dark!

(Alternatively, after all the jibba-jabbers have already jibba jabbered and gone home.)
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 4, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

thunder,
hey, it ain't dark yet out on the Pacific side.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 4, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Talkin Jibba Jabba after dark...
Cue the Barry White monologue...

Posted by: Predator48 | February 4, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Here in Ohio (Eastern Time Zone, if you can believe it), it is dark. Also, cold. Snow and ice from a week ago is all over the place.

In answer to an earlier question:
--------------------------------------
Did anyone else see the MSN Mock Draft with the skins taking CB Jenkins from OSU???? Does that really make a lot of sense?

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 4, 2009 4:28 PM
======================================
I don't think that mock is serious. Three WRs and 3 RBs in the first round? Alex Mack goes at pick 42?

I don't think the d00d has been paying attention.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 4, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

i actually think the signing of Dominique Dorsey makes sense dont we need skat back or somthing like that

Posted by: redskinsfan01 | February 4, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

This "news" ... up here, I've been led to believe that we should not believe it until its reported by "bona fide" sources ... like profootballtalk.com.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

"Dominique WHO?" asked Rock Cartwright.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

thunder,
hey, it ain't dark yet out on the Pacific side.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 4, 2009 7:28 PM

But in the Maritime provinces, they've already fallen asleep worried about Suisham's fate.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

In Japan, they're already awake and trading Suisham futures.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 4, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Oops, I crapped my pants.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 4, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Well, I seem to be the only one who saw it but I think Suisham has turned the corner. I saw it when he kicked the 36 yard field goal against Cincy. It was straight true, effortless and went much further than 36 yards. (Yeah OK he screwed up the onside kick.) And his kickoffs were pretty consistent in his last two games with the 41 yarder in SF.

I think he'll be fine for us next year.

The Chorus of One signing out!

Posted by: charley42 | February 4, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, I seem to be the only one who saw it but I think Suisham has turned the corner. I saw it when he kicked the 36 yard field goal against Cincy. It was straight true, effortless and went much further than 36 yards. (Yeah OK he screwed up the onside kick.) And his kickoffs were pretty consistent in his last two games with the 41 yarder in SF.

I think he'll be fine for us next year.

The Chorus of One signing out!

Posted by: charley42 | February 4, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you charley42. I have no problem with the team bringing in competition, but I think Swish should be a long term kicker for us.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 4, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

why are we signing a kicker who's BEST year was one miss less than Suisham had this past season when he was the WORST kicker in the league. Seems like a spot on decision to me. Def has promise...

Posted by: parasonic | February 4, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Adios, SwissHam. Thanks for nothing.

Enough about the kicking game, though. My head has been filled with magnificent visions of the Skins' offense lining up this fall with Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson as the #1 and #2 wideouts.

Dare to dream.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Dare to dream.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2009 11:43 PM
==========================================
Trade Carlos Rodgers for a #6 pick. Bring back Pat Fischer.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 4, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Here's Suisham's stats for the last 3 games:

Kicking  	FG  	LG  	XP  	PTS
Dec 14@CIN 	2/2 	36 	1/1 	7
Dec 21@PHI   	1/2  	33  	1/1  	4
Dec 28@SF   	1/1  	41  	3/3  	6

o His kickoffs were consistently short and in the middle of the field.

o He made 12 field goals (of 40 yards and over) in 20 attempts for a 60% completion percentage.

o Worst completion percentage of all kickers with 10 or more attempts.

o Opponents missed only 4 field goals and Suisham missed 10.

The Skins will probably give Suisham a shot in training camp, but I suspect they will bring in a better free agent kicker before the start of the season.

Posted by: siris | February 5, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

The problem with Swissham is not in July and August, but in October and Novermber. His leg fatigued over the season. September, we actually witnesed touchbacks; December, he barely reached the five. (It's not like the 'skins were scoring bunches either). If he was automatic from 48 and under, no problem get a punter who can kick-off. But he's not and there are plenty of guys with less experience that can give us the same preformance or perhaps better.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2009 5:06 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone else see the MSN Mock Draft with the skins taking CB Jenkins from OSU???? Does that really make a lot of sense?

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 4, 2009 4:28 PM

Yeah, I saw that mock draft a couple of days ago, that dude is retarded.

Great One, if they draft a CB in the first and trade Rogers in the second, what is that accomplishing? Springs will still be gone probably after another yr, so you still have a hole at CB, even if you sign Hall. So by your logic, once again O line and D line are secondary to another position that's perfectly fine.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 5, 2009 6:55 AM | Report abuse

It's nothing like going out and spending actual money on a proven NFL kicker ...

By Jason La Canfora | February 4, 2009; 3:14 PM ET

I`m wondering why the Post doesn`t go out and spend `actual money` on a proven reporter for the Redskins beat?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 5, 2009 7:03 AM | Report abuse

I`m wondering why the Post doesn`t go out and spend `actual money` on a proven reporter for the Redskins beat?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 5, 2009 7:03 AM
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Why would the Post need to do that, when JLC has you posting at 7 AM?
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | February 5, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

So, the Redskins passed on the guy Wake whom the Dolphins signed, and they get roasted for it. Ok.

They then turn around and sign this running back, who was the Outstanding Special Teams player for the league last year, and its just the facts, nothing but the facts.

Thats where the bias comes in. Roast them when they do wrong, but give credit when they something positive. Can't have it both ways.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 5, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm from Cda and have seen Dorsey play. He's small but very shifty and could be effective as a PR and a 3rd down back in the NFL provided he is fast enough. Difficult to gauge because NFL field is quite a bit smaller than a CFL field. He is too small for KR in the NFL IMO.

Bottom line - great low risk move by the Skins. Randle El was never a burner and now that he's lost a step, he's useless as a PR.

Posted by: davestake | February 5, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Can't have it both ways.

Posted by: BeantownGreg

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

I am kinda sure that you can have it both ways... I had it 6 ways last night

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

DDorsey can't be any worse than ARE. If he'll catch the ball and run straight ahead for at least five yards he's a hell of an improvement. ARE is a good guy, christian man, active in the community, down to earth and accessible, BUT his punt returning skills are atrocious. Why the Skins continue to use him back there is beyond comprehension. I'd like to see them try Marques Hagans(practice squad) back there.

Posted by: 72Redskins | February 5, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

I had it 6 ways last night

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

You the MAN!

Posted by: frediefritz | February 5, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

at 5-7 and 170 pounds is he big enough to play in the NFL? I know there is a min weight. At that size and weight maybe he would be better listed on a different position.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

6 ways from Sunday

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 5, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

"at 5-7 and 170 pounds is he big enough to play in the NFL? I know there is a min weight. At that size and weight maybe he would be better listed on a different position.

Posted by: alex35332"

like what, fullback? OL? DL?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 5, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Why the Skins continue to use him back there is beyond comprehension. I'd like to see them try Marques Hagans(practice squad) back there.

Posted by: 72Redskins | February 5, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

The only reason I can figure is that he does not put the ball on the ground. In 112 punt returns since becoming a Skin, he has only fumbled 5 times.

He does not scare anyone back there tho. I think the Skins really need an upgrade at PR. I don't know if Dorsey is the guy, but he sounds worth a shot.

And with his speed, he might be useful in the 4th Q when the opposing D has been tired out. That's assuming we can upgrade the OL so that we can tire out the opposition.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 5, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Nate Abrams – E 1921 5-4 145
Chase Boldt - BB-E-FB 1921-23 5-7 145
Ray Brenner – WB 1925 5-5 145
Michael Clemons – HB 1987 5-5 166
Herb Clow – FB 1924 5-4 180
Dick Dobeleit – B 1925-26 5-4 155
Chuck Dressen – BB-QB 1920, 1922-23 5-6 147
Patsy Giugliano – BB 1923 5-4 140

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 5, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

I could be remembering wrong, but didn't Mike Nelms come over from the CFL? Granted, he wasn't as small is this guy Dorsey, but he turned out to be a heck of a PR/KR for us....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 5, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

TT11,
I was thinking WR/CB, spots where you will find smallish guys. But as I said I don't know the weight rules for the NFL or if the min size rules are for all players or by position.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Ed Gregg – E 1922 5-6 135
Mack Herron – HB 1973-75 5-5 174
Two Bits Homan – BB 1925-30 5-5 145
Tony Jones – WR 1990-93 5-7 139
John Law – T 1930 5-3 180
Dub McGibbony –TB-DB 1944 5-10 148
Butch Meeker – BB-TB 1930-31 5-3 143
Pard Pearce – QB-BB 1920-25 5-5 150

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 5, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I remember being 130 lbs cant imagine playing pro football at that size

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

For all those worried about Dorsey Sproles is shorter and only weighs 10 pounds more.

Darren Sproles #43 RB» Add Widget
2008 STATS
ATT YDS TD
61 330 1
Height 5-6
Weight 181 lbs.
Age 25
Position RB
Experience 4 years
College Kansas State

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 5, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I could be remembering wrong, but didn't Mike Nelms come over from the CFL? Granted, he wasn't as small is this guy Dorsey, but he turned out to be a heck of a PR/KR for us....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 5, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I think you're right, dl. I looked up his stats. I can't find his CFL stats. But he joined the Skins in '80, and probably graduated in 77 or 78.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 5, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Michael Craig Nelms (born April 8, 1955 in Fort Worth, Texas) is a former American football defensive back and kick returner in the National Football League who played five seasons with the Washington Redskins from 1980 to 1984. Before his NFL career, Nelms played in the Canadian Football League. He played college football at Baylor University.

Nelms is a three time Pro Bowler in 1980, 1981 and 1982. He led the NFL in yards per kickoff return twice (1981, 1982) and was the Redskins starting punt returner in Super Bowl XVII. In Super Bowl XVII, he returned six punts for 52 yards, both Super Bowl records, along with two kickoff returns for 44 yards.

Nelms finished his five seasons with 175 kickoff returns for 4,128 yards, 212 punt returns for 1,948 yards and two touchdowns, and one interception in 68 games.

from Wikipedia

Posted by: frediefritz | February 5, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Pid Purdy – BB 1926-27 5-6 145
Rollin Roach – FB-WB 1927 5-6 145
Jack Shapiro – BB 1929 5-1 119

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 5, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV - L(oser) 1973-2026 5-4 376

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 5, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV - L(oser) 1973-2026 5-4 376

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 5, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

No offense, Red, but that's funny! LMAO

Posted by: frediefritz | February 5, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

TheTurd is a very funny guy indeed.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 5, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Truth,
I appreciate the point on that small guys have played as pros but I think the most modern guy you came up with was 1990 right. I mean guys in the 20's and 30's... the biggest guys in those days were smaller than most guys today. I just look at the size 170 and think Todd Pinkston.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Dante Hall isn't much bigger either, at 5'8 187 lbs.

Posted by: psps23 | February 5, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Antonio Brown was 5'10, 172. That's even slimmer than Dorsey considering he was taller.

Posted by: psps23 | February 5, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Maybe its just me. I am a minority opinion in my concern for having smaller players.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 5, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

redDMV- OM(Office Mailman) 1973-2026 5-4 376

**Best known for sleeping in the broom closet after lunch**

Posted by: richard_cranium | February 5, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Alex, if a guy can play, he can play......obviously we don't want a bunch of players that small though.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 5, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 5, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Dominique Dorsey can take it to the house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTv_oE-3fls

I think this is a good pickup. Its something we need and didn't have to use a pick on him. I'd have to say excellent. Only problem, they can't get into waiting and trying to groom someone into a certain player. they need to put him on the field (when they can) and let him be that guy or not that guy

Posted by: 15600_sknfan | February 5, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

La Canfora? More like "La Cotorra"! Get a life, and while you are at it, See if you can get us a REAL GM.

Posted by: phackyoutwice | February 5, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I am so sad to say that the Redskins will never be any good untill they get rid of Vinny and get the right management in place!!

Posted by: cherrywatts42 | February 7, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

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