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Posted at 2:55 PM ET, 11/19/2010

Redskins-Titans poll: What will happen Sunday?

By Rick Maese

By Rick Maese  | November 19, 2010; 2:55 PM ET
 
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Gay

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 19, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

We have got to start rolling McNabb more. Get him out of the pocket to give him a chance, and to force the defense to account for him running. Sure, he's banged up and he doesn't pose quite the threat of a Vick, but he can still make plays with his legs when he needs to.

Also, folks "up here" have been calling for Banks as a receiver, and it's time. With Banks' acceleration and speed, sending him downfield could mean McNabb needs the O-line to protect him for one second less. If you're having trouble giving your QB enough time to throw, you do what you can to shorten the amount of time it takes for plays to develop. Speed in the receiving corps goes a long way to making that happen.

Posted by: freakzilla | November 19, 2010 3:05 PM

Posted by: freakzilla | November 19, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

We're gonna play Globo Gym on Sunday
and we're probably gonna lose.

It's the truth. The sooner you guys get that through your head, the easier this will all be.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 19, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

What are the choices?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 19, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Have a great weekend every body! Beep, just letting you know I'm signing off, I know how you like to be up everyone's ass!
Have a great weekend PlayAction, whatever you do, wink wink!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 19, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

We have got to start rolling McNabb more. Get him out of the pocket to give him a chance, and to force the defense to account for him running../i>

Posted by: freakzilla | November 19, 2010 3:05 PM

Wouldn't hurt if the WRs actually CATCH and FIGHT FOR some of the balls, too.

Our pass catchers seem to drop an awful lot of catchable balls, and that's not just this year, either.

On other teams, you sometimes see wideouts rip the ball away from defenders, or just make spectacular catches on off-the-mark balls. Here.... not so much.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, we're either Superman Sock Puppets or have the world's fastest computer in order to post as the same person for 2 User ID's at the same time!

Posted by: monk811 | November 19, 2010 2:38 PM |

This is your confession. It says "You caught us. We're sock puppets. monk811 = PlayAction." You outed yourself when you pulled this little stunt.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 19, 2010 3:18 PM

Monk...I can't take it...beep-beep is getting to me...I can't be your sock puppet anymore...I'm sorry.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, we're either Superman Sock Puppets or have the world's fastest computer in order to post as the same person for 2 User ID's at the same time!

Posted by: monk811 | November 19, 2010 2:38 PM |

Hey, Tweedle--

This is your confession. It says "You caught us. We're sock puppets. monk811 = PlayAction." You outed yourself when you pulled this little stunt.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

We have got to start rolling McNabb more. Get him out of the pocket to give him a chance, and to force the defense to account for him running../i>

Posted by: freakzilla | November 19, 2010 3:05 PM

Wouldn't hurt if the WRs actually CATCH and FIGHT FOR some of the balls, too.

Our pass catchers seem to drop an awful lot of catchable balls, and that's not just this year, either.

On other teams, you sometimes see wideouts rip the ball away from defenders, or just make spectacular catches on off-the-mark balls. Here.... not so much.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 19, 2010 3:22 PM
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Granted, Galloway has made some lame attempts for the ball or to act as a defender when the ball is intercepted, but I think some of this just comes down to size. Our receivers are smaller than most of the guys who are defending them. I think part of the reason why the Redskins are throwing a lot of deep passes is our receivers cannot outmuscle a defender when catching the ball in traffic. Shanahan's past offenses have seemed to always have a big receiver in the portfolio who could outmuscle everyone for the ball. I can't believe they didn't try a little harder to get a big receiver through trade, but I guess they didn't like the deals that were out there.

I say more two tight end offense, or lining up Cooley or Davis wide. It seems there was a little more two tight end last week and I expect that trend to continue.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 19, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Alan4,
actually in the paper this morning there was an article saying that the redskins have among the FEWEST "drops" in the league - something like 10 all year. that was very surprising to me. also, that same article said something along the lines of only 60% of mcnabbs's passes were "catchable".

actually, here:

"While the Redskins' receivers have been sharply criticized by some corners of the fan base, they have dropped only 10 passes in nine games, according to Stats, Inc. Only two teams have dropped fewer. According to Stats, Inc., only 60 percent of the Redskins' 315 pass attempts this year have been catchable, a lower percentage than all but two other teams."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/18/AR2010111806090_2.html?sid=ST2010111807524

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 19, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

walter-in-fallschurch, thanks for the link. Maybe it just seems like more because they were such pivotal plays.

It's amazing that only 60% of McNabbs throws are considered catchable, too. I'll give the article a more thorough read tonight.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 19, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 19, 2010 3:35 PM

60% doesn't seem right does it? A pro WR should be able to handle anything thrown at or near their shoes...90% sounds more like it.

10 drops definitely seems low!

Posted by: PlayAction | November 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

All depends on what is called a "catchable ball." Take that pass in the first Eagles game to Davis as an example. I was at that game and can say with absolute confidence that it was very catchable ball. But Davis did not "run through the catch." Instead he turned sideways and awkwardly backpedaled, with the result being that the ball went over his head.

Posted by: manlius1 | November 19, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The classic RI response:

Agree to Disagree.....But choosen in a much longer fashion....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 19, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

PlayAction, Alan4,
those were surprising stats - maybe that's why they stuck in my head. i too am wondering about the criteria for "catchable" and "drops". i mean, seems like several of those "drops" were more like "deflections-into-opposing-players-hands"...

also, if those stats are right, then mcnabb should be in the high 50s with his completion rate - which i don't think he is.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 19, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

In the mid-aughts when we were going through a particularly depressing stretch of QB ineptitude, my brother and I had a running joke: whenever the Skins attempted a deep throw, when the ball was in the air one of us would say that old chestnut "The receiver becomes the defender". And then continue drinking.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 19, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

TWISI, I'm with you. I just think the coaching staff is sending mixed messages. The 3-4 is lacking the personnel. Haslett wont say it.

The offense is lacking FIRST AND FOREMOST, an O Line stocked with viable backups for each position.

We know drafting 2 O Linemen each year, let's call them a 1st and 3rd rounder on average, is going to take YEARS to get together and build cohesion.

But, yeah, grab a wideout, a cornerback, and a safety each year, too?

It starts to really look like decade time.

I hate it.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The classic RI response:

Agree to Disagree.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 19, 2010 3:48 PM

Come on 4th. You've been here longer than I have. You know that the classic RI response involves the word idiot or moron and sodomy with the other guy's mother/sister/wife/daughter.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

also, if those stats are right, then mcnabb should be in the high 50s with his completion rate - which i don't think he is.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 19, 2010 3:49 PM

57%...yuck.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

i just found something putting mcnabb's completions at 57.1% for the year. i guess that comports with the "catchable" and "drops" stats in maese's article.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 19, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

And Stats Inc just blew up their credibility with that "10 drops" BS.

In 9 games, we've had 10 drops? NO WAY. Try again.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 19, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Come on 4th. You've been here longer than I have. You know that the classic RI response involves the word idiot or moron and sodomy with the other guy's mother/sister/wife/daughter.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 19, 2010 3:55 PM

...or calling them sock puppets.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 19, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Thinker_ let's hope not 10 years. While other teams have turn around their franchises in a year or two, I think it'll take ate least 2 years of drafting 7 or more players supplemented by scheme specific FA pickups before a solid playoff will be in place.

Posted by: TWISI | November 19, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

And Stats Inc just blew up their credibility with that "10 drops" BS.

In 9 games, we've had 10 drops? NO WAY. Try again.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 19, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

If that is just WRs I buy it. If it includes TE/RBs it's absolutely bad data.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 19, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

PlayAction,
i wasn't trying to "out-specific" you with that 57.1% stat - i hadn't seen your post before posing mine. i find that stat surprising too - for two reasons;

1) i expected it to be much lower, given all the belly-aching about mcnabb

2) it's only about 2% lower than his career average.

but, this must be why it "feels" much worse than 57%:

from that maese article:
"Through nine games, the Washington Redskins have converted a league-worst 24 third downs - nine fewer than any other team."

and

"On third down, by comparison, McNabb is completing only 42 percent of his passes (36 of 85), and averaging 5.47 yards per attempt."

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 19, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

or calling them sock puppets.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 19, 2010 3:59 PM

You've been bringing that lame stuff for a while now. You got caught and you outed yourself. Give it up and move on.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

beeps.

Posted by: TWISI | November 19, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

That I'll buy. There are a LOT of stupid football people that comment here. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if we found out Peabrain2003 was actually Vinny C.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 19, 2010 2:44 PM

the stupid things I said about mcNabb and shanahans not making us better WAS WAY OFF and STUPID cause mcnabb didn't get benched, dominated, and they're not questioning Galloway AND the Raidets aren't in 1st place in their division with Campbell at QB. And the 3-4 has been phenomonal. Torains clearly the best, Portis is a non factor.

Your right how stupid was I, if we could only all be geniuses like you. You're the greatest football mind ever to grace earth

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 19, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

They left out the ''Who cares" catergory.

Posted by: jp14710 | November 20, 2010 6:07 AM | Report abuse

They left out the ''Who cares" catergory.

Posted by: jp14710 | November 20, 2010 6:08 AM | Report abuse

This just in from the psychic network of the absurd....

Dateline: Monday, Nov 22, Football News

In the aftermath of yesterdays 68-6 loss at Tennessee, Redskins officials have confirmed reports of an ongoing investigation that defensive signals may have been leaked to the Titans, who set a NFL record with 697 yards of total offense using not one, nor two, but all three of their quarterbacks in the rout.

After the drubbing, Coach Mike Shanahan further suggested that his offensive playbook may have also been compromised as he recalled "leaving it unattended while lying in the tanning bed before the game."

"There's no way I should get intercepted six times, never mind throwing three pick-6s," said Donovan McNabb, who for the first time in NFL history amassed a zero passing rating by going 6 for 22 with a Washington offense that netted minus-9 in total yardage. "They were running the routes better than our guys do," a puzzled Kyle Shanahan added.

The investigation continues but attribution to Fat Albert Haynesworth is being fueled by unconfirmed reports that he has not returned from Tennessee yet.

Posted by: JCinDC | November 20, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

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