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Redskins Trail Steelers, 7-3, after 1

After four scoreless quarters at Baltimore a week earlier, the Redskins scored their first points of the preseason on their first drive, courtesy of a 20-yard field goal by Shaun Suisham. Despite the close first-quarter score - Steelers led 7-3 - it was not an especially productive 15 minutes for quarterback Jason Campbell and the offense.

After opening the game with three incomplete Campbell passes, the drive was kept alive on 4th-and-10 by a direct snap to Rock Cartwright, who scampered for a 15-yard gain and the first down.

The Redskins reached the 3-yard line but failed to find the end zone.

On the drive, running back Clinton Portis saw his first action of the preseason, rushing for 26 yards on five carries.

The Steelers' first drive looked to be a quick one, but after an incomplete pass on third-and-18, cornerback DeAngelo Hall was called for a personal foul for a late hit. A few plays later, on another third down, the Steelers seemed to find good fortune again. LaRon Landry and DeAngelo Hall successfully defended a pass but the ball bounced into the hands of Santonio Holmes, who scampered down the Redskins' 18-yard line. Washington coach Jim Zorn successfully challenged the play. Video replay showed the ball hit the ground, ending the Steelers first drive.

Keith Eloi, who's battling for the fifth-receiver job, fielded the punt, but the Redskins began their second drive pinned on their own 11-yard line after Landry was flagged on the return for a block in the back. But after two incomplete Campbell passes and a Ladell Betts run for no gain, punter Hunter Smith took the field the field.

It took the Steelers nine plays to march 50 yards and put their first points on the scoreboard. Willie Parker ran for 3-yard touchdown, giving the Steelers a 7-3 lead.
Despite scoring their first points of the preseason, it wasn't an especially pretty quarter for Campbell. He was actually benefited by some solid pass protection but twice threw deep in the first quarter, underthrowing Malcolm Kelly on the first play of the game and missing Santana Moss on the first play of the Redskins' second drive.

Campbell finished the quarter 1-of-6 for 10 yards. The rushing game accounted for 59 of the team's 69 first-quarter yards.

All of the offensive starters except for Betts were on the field heading into the second quarter. Betts left the game with a back strain. He was not expected to return. Betts had seven yards on four carries. The Redskins' used him as their third-down back before he left the game.

By Rick Maese  |  August 22, 2009; 8:24 PM ET
 
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Comments

They should've left Campbell in there. He needs the work more than Collins.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Somehow, Campbell looked better, I guess because the Redskins moved the ball, and he kept the Steeler's D honest with the two deep passes.

Posted by: WEWard3 | August 22, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

is campbell getting worse?

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | August 22, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. Campbell needs more work. I'm not confident with him.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Sellers hurt...

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 22, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Great. Sellers is done. Take out your first-string QB and RB but leave in your important FB. Smart.

And WEWard3, Campbell didn't really keep them honest because the deep throws he attempted were awful.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh geez.. that hurts looking at him like that.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Uh ohh Big MIKE SELLERS is on the floor

Posted by: dspinx | August 22, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

berter than what, a turd? how can you look better with one completion? All I saw was an inaccurate thrower who makes poor decisions.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | August 22, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

O-line ?

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 22, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I meant Sellers is DOWN, not DONE.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Walked off thank goodness

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, Mason. That's not how you make a team. Why would he try to bounce it out when all he had to do was fall forward for a first down? I have legitimate concerns about the collective intelligence of these players.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Looks like maybe Sellers' right knee was kicked or bumped.

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 22, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Why do the Skins treat JC like he's the best QB in the world? Like he doesn't need to play and he can't get hurt? Brady, Manning and Romo all play like a half and they don't even need that much work. JC should've played the entire first half.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Collins 3 for 3, JC looks confused, slow, and inaccurate, Collins looks accurate, in control, makes quick reads and gets the ball out on target.....hmmmmmm

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Would have been nice to see JC & 1st team a bit longer. Not like they don't need the work.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Tryon beaten. Bet its not the last time we hear that.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse
ctually, he hadprety good coverage on that come-back. Announcer said he was beat, but he wa where he should have ben.

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Posted by: frediefritz | August 22, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

So the offense this week was only three points better than last week. Even though they had one prolonged drive, I still think there's plenty of cause for concern, and no one on that first unit should think this was some kind of big improvement.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo has good speed. Nice to see that.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Decent moves from DD. Went forward instead our normal side to side returns.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

The more I see of JC the more I think he is not the answer. He just doesn't look comfortable in the pocket. I've heard a lot of people say he is an incredibly accurate thrower on deep balls (how could we ever know, we never throw deep?) but he is not an accurate passer. Everytime he goes deep I know it's going to land 10 feet away from anybody. So where is this conception that Jason campbell is an accurate deep ball thrower? I've see one, vs the Saints to Moss. That's it.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to think Todd Collins is the way to go.

Might give us the best chance to win THIS YEAR.

Posted by: abtassler | August 22, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Redskins should fire Zorn now and bring in Mike Shanahan before the season is a bust.
This offense is a joke.

Posted by: jmy999 | August 22, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

So the offense this week was only three points better than last week. Even though they had one prolonged drive, I still think there's plenty of cause for concern, and no one on that first unit should think this was some kind of big improvement.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

The oline looked really good, that's encouraging, Jc looked really bad to me, if you stop the blitz as well as we did then somebody has to be open!

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Sellers has right knee contusion.

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 22, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

JC may not be the guy, but the play calling is just as bad. Why, on third and 10, call a screen when you have an backup O-line that probably won't be able to block effectively? Makes no sense to me.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I would love to ask Zorn why Campbell plays so little. I just don't understand it. Tony Romo played every snap for the Cowboys until the first half ended. Why can't Jason do that?

Can anyone answer that question?

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, Mason. That's not how you make a team. Why would he try to bounce it out when all he had to do was fall forward for a first down? I have legitimate concerns about the collective intelligence of these players.

Posted by: CDon


It's easy to say something like that when you're watching and not playing. You as a spectator -- watching the game on your lazy boy in your living room -- don't have a feel for what's going on on-field.

And these guys are football players, not freakin' science chemist. They aren't going to be damn geniuses. What do you think they picked between neurosurgeon and left guard?

I wouldn't say they lack intelligence, maybe instincts. There's a difference.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 22, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Zorn should get to pick HIS QB not have to use a Gibbs QB. Everyone knows that a Gibbs QB is not made for this type of offense.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo = Genetic Freak

Posted by: dspinx | August 22, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Rak is a baaaaaD man. JC17 is a nice guy. Anyone see the difference?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | August 22, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to say something like that when you're watching and not playing. You as a spectator -- watching the game on your lazy boy in your living room -- don't have a feel for what's going on on-field.

And these guys are football players, not freakin' science chemist. They aren't going to be damn geniuses. What do you think they picked between neurosurgeon and left guard?

I wouldn't say they lack intelligence, maybe instincts. There's a difference.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 22, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Disagree. Knowing where the marker is and what down and distance are speaks to your football intelligence. And that's what I meant. I didn't mean they were choosing between neuroscience and left guard. That's hyperbolic, and that's not what I meant at all.

And you could tell Mason knew he made a mistake immediately because of how he reacted. Smarter players, who are aware of down and distance, fall forward for a first down, not try to bounce the thing out.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Can we stop anyone on third down??? My goodness. How many times do we look like we're about to get the QB and then a long pass is completed?

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Zorn worried about JC & first team playing more time on wet field? Its all I got.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like they're in Pittsburgh not DC!

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV,

Mason got popped. He should have at least turned his momentum upfield. I haven't played since high school (and I played dline) and I know you need to play North/South. Mason lost ground cause he was still heading toward the sideline thinking he could out speed the defender. Willie Parker did that against Laron. Willie Parker is a vet. Mason is still trying to break into the league.

Posted by: Dorf | August 22, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Even Dixon knows how to slide.. haha, sorry about the constant jabbing at JC.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

what's the over/under on Sam Huff pronouncing Orakpo's name correctly?

I saying its game 3 of the regular season.

He's closing in, its Arakapo as of now ....

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 22, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Rachel, maybe a trade is in the works involving JC... Possibly why he is being played sparingly.... Skins have until mid October (trade deadline) to pull it off... Snyder has given up a 1st round pick (2 actually if you count the one used to pick JC) a 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick to select JC in 2005. If JC walks as a Free Agent at the end of this season.. Snyder got nothing in return for an amazingly expensive investment.
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Why do the Skins treat JC like he's the best QB in the world? Like he doesn't need to play and he can't get hurt? Brady, Manning and Romo all play like a half and they don't even need that much work. JC should've played the entire first half.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:41 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 22, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Tryon beaten on a slant again. Was called back because of an illegal formation. But he was beaten again.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

wow, steelers are very afraid of Mr. Orakpo. They're chipping him with an RB on almost every passing play

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Wide open again just dropped...

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Agreed...Zorn should of kept him in until he completed a pass longer than 15 yards..
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Why do the Skins treat JC like he's the best QB in the world? Like he doesn't need to play and he can't get hurt? Brady, Manning and Romo all play like a half and they don't even need that much work. JC should've played the entire first half.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:41 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 22, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

wow, steelers are very afraid of Mr. Orakpo. They're chipping him with an RB on almost every passing play

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 9:04 PM

...and holding him every play too.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Tryon's junk...there I said it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

44 seconds left in the half.. Come on Zorn, Let Collins air it out long and see what happens.....

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 22, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

JC isn't a starting QB in this league. There are 31 other teams in the NFL who can actually see this but yet the Redskins can't. I know Zorn can see this being a former QB but the starting QB call is coming from Danny and Vinny, this is clear as day.

I think Zorn should grow a sack and try starting Collins or even Brennan vs the Pats.

Posted by: BSurely | August 22, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

A cheaper version of Carlos Rogers

Posted by: Dorf | August 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, may be time to cut ties with Tryon. Vinny won't, though, because he wants to save face for drafting him.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

GO TODD COLLINS! We found our answer!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Collins for 1st string!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Why and how do you pull the first team offense off the field in the 2nd preseason game after the way they looked in the last 2 drives. This is BS. This team needs a lot of work and should be on the field the entire first half in every preseason game except the last one. Campbell looks like s***, the line is not getting enough work and you can't make any substantial decisions when guys are standing on the sidelines. It's not like this is a 12-4 team that just needs tuning up.

Posted by: virtueandvice | August 22, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

TC sharper than JC it appears. Just more comfortable.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Haggans is gone. Collins has some nice touch on his throws. I wouldn't be surprised if he sees some significant time sometime during the season.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't get why campbell is sitting right now, everyone says he sucks cause he doesn't know the system yet they let him play two series a game when he has time to learn it.....

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Nevermind.

Posted by: will_ga | August 22, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

There's your answer Rachel.

Are we done crowing Collins? Its the 2nd game of pre-season.

Posted by: Dorf | August 22, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Okay, take that back. off to the next QB. Colt. Man, I really feel like we're drafting a QB next year.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I jinxed him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

You have to keep Campbell in for more snaps...I understand you don't want your starting QB to get hurt but you also don't want a guy who can't do more than 1-7 to be your starting QB.

Bottom line - he needs to play in the hope he gets better. If he gets hurt in the process that is the chance you have take. At this point he can not be considered valuable enough to be a 'risk' playing.

Posted by: marksmen | August 22, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

This game is taking forever. Long first half.

First team O needed to play most of the second quarter. This game and the third one are the opportunities for them to play significant minutes. And that group of guys needs the work.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Haha, missed both!

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

That wasn't on Collins, that was on Devin Thomas, he has to drive back on the ball, let the CB cut right in from of him.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Collins for 1st string!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Yeah...........nice pick he just threw. If you clowns think he is the answer, you must like watching 4 win teams. There is a reason he is a career backup dumba**. The answer is to keep the first team offense on the field until they get it right. Did anyone watch Dallas last night? They kicked a** and kept doing it until their work was done. It's this coaching staff that sucks. Any other coach in the league would have Campbell and Co. out there until they get it right!

Posted by: virtueandvice | August 22, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Well, that was pretty much ugly all around.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 22, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Theismann, a few minutes ago, said that Orakpo won the Jimi Hendrix award last year...

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 22, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I could have picked off that pass even if it was on Thomas. Mark Brunell could have done that. At least if Campbell threw it the DBs hands would have stung a bit.

Posted by: Dorf | August 22, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

ONLY TEAM IN THE NFL WITHOUT A TOUCHDOWN IN THE PRESEASON!!!!!!!

Posted by: virtueandvice | August 22, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

How come nobody is talking about the $100 million doller man? This guy really worries me. I don't think he got withen 15 feet of Charlie Batch. Oh yea the preseason means nothing.

Posted by: WWWPRINCENOTSOCHARMING09 | August 22, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

virtueandvice- blame JC for us feeling like COllins is the answer. If JC was better, we wouldn't have doubt, but we do. At least Collins completed more than 1 pass.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth collapsed the pocket a few times tonight. He helped disrupt things back there. Still, the defense couldn't sack Batch. But it was good to see pressure.

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Any other coach in the league would have Campbell and Co. out there until they get it right!

Posted by: virtueandvice | August 22, 2009 9:14 PM

I'm starting to think the game isn't long enough for that. Besides, this game is to evaluate younger guys and see who makes the roster.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 22, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

virtueandvice- please don't remind me. Now that is absolutely something to be worried about. That's crazy. And very embarrassing. So do they score a TD in the game??? With Chase or COlt?

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Were we watching the same game? Painsworth was up in there. We need that pressure to start turning into sacks. I'm not too worried.

Posted by: Dorf | August 22, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

6 quarters so far- 3 points.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to think the game isn't long enough for that. Besides, this game is to evaluate younger guys and see who makes the roster.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 22, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

That's true, but I think the continued improvement of the first team is more important. They're going to make a difference this season, certainly moreso than the 52nd and 53rd guys on the roster. The first team offense hasn't done enough yet this preseason to make anyone think they're playing well or that they have a good grasp of what they're doing out there. (That said, the offensive line looked really good tonight. Great protection for JC, which makes his performance passing even sadder. If the O-line picks up all those blitzes, someone has to be open, right?)

Posted by: CDon | August 22, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas is a weak punk - he will never be a legit WR in the NFL. This fool has his own 'blog'. Are you kidding me? He should be embarrased to the point of trying to draw as little attention to himself as possible. In the million to one chance he ever develops into something then he can start shooting his 'virtual' mouth off. Until then shut up and read your play book!

Tryon is terrible...just use TiVO to the watch plays he is on the field for. He runs around like a lost puppy with no impact on the the play. Reminds me of my 4 year old in his first year of flag football.

Posted by: marksmen | August 22, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

We have to start asking about the playcalling here. The mix of run and pass does not work and are we running play that suit our personnel? The O-Line looks much better and Haynesworth is not in shape. They seem to be gassed...

Posted by: jtrob_1 | August 22, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Randel El play QB at this point.

Posted by: WWWPRINCENOTSOCHARMING09 | August 22, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Randel El play QB at this point.

Posted by: WWWPRINCENOTSOCHARMING09 | August 22, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Not that I would expect you pinheads to notice, but how is it Zorn is called a guru??? How many freaking superbowls has he won??? Oh, and by the freaking way, how many points has the offense scored the past 2 games????? That's what I thought. Thomlin has more football smarts in his pinky.

Posted by: Ireland2 | August 22, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

berter than what, a turd? how can you look better with one completion? All I saw was an inaccurate thrower who makes poor decisions.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | August 22, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Ya we need a new thrower.....

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | August 22, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Ireland2, I agree with you. This offense looks no better than last year.
Get a real head coach before the season starts.

Posted by: jmy999 | August 22, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

There would be no point in trading Jason Campbell now. Who would we trade him for? There is no market for qb's. If he sucks that bad, play Collins. He is tearing it up.

Posted by: BMACattack | August 22, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I've only herd "Guru" while watching football. I understand Hainsworth was great in Tenn. But tonight after the snap he just stood up and locked up the offensive lineman. In his defense he was double teamed. The only pressure came from outside. He was not up in there. And was dragging a@$ after one series!

Posted by: WWWPRINCENOTSOCHARMING09 | August 22, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

5 for 9 for 39 yards and a "not his fault" INT?

That's tearing it up? Wow. We haven't had a franchise QB in like 20 years. Our standards are low.

Posted by: Dorf | August 22, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

JC 1 for 7 for 10 yards, compared to Campbell both collins and daniels are all pro...

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Daniels to Mitchell, will we hear that by week 6?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

WE SCORED!

Posted by: BMACattack | August 22, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

wooohooo, collins and daniel can complete passes against backups and the backups backups. they also have been playing with a dry ball. put either qb in against the first string D and it woulda been uuuugly

excellent execution on that td pass though, both by daniel and mitchell. I think we'll see that a few times during the regular season, but with campbell and kelly

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Based on all the reports out of camp, the fact that he was a draft pick, and the way he's looked tonight, (along with the embarrassing drop by Hacket) Marko Mitchell is our #5 receiver.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

wooohooo, collins and daniel can complete passes against backups and the backups backups. they also have been playing with a dry ball. put either qb in against the first string D and it woulda been uuuugly

excellent execution on that td pass though, both by daniel and mitchell. I think we'll see that a few times during the regular season, but with campbell and kelly

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what game you were watching tonight but Campbell had all day back there was not under pressure the entire night and was 1 for 7. His best play was an inaccurate pass to Cooley who made a heck of a catch and then the other was the panic on the blitz that CP picked up and getting 6 yards on a scramble (picked up blitz are your best chances for big plays however, if the qb doesn't panic and keeps his eyes downfield). I'm pretty confident based on the what Collins has shown in the past (5 straight wins and a playoff run) and the way he's looked so far that if we put him back there and gave him time he'd be a little better than 1 for 7.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Half the ladies in here need to change them wet "red" rags between there legs and relax. It's just preseason !!! JC will be fine. He'll go 8-8 and become a career back-up in another city.

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 22, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

And I'm pretty confident that if you actually knew football as well as you think, you'd be somehow working in the sport making personnel or coaching decisions. Sorry, but I trust the offensive coaching staff of the Redskins over a commenter on a blog. just the way it is

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

And I'm pretty confident that if you actually knew football as well as you think, you'd be somehow working in the sport making personnel or coaching decisions. Sorry, but I trust the offensive coaching staff of the Redskins over a commenter on a blog. just the way it is

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

That's the dumbest statement ever, you obviously haven't been watching the Redskins offense since the last year Brad Johnson was our starter cause that's the last time we've had any offense that was good enough to inspire any confidence in the coaches in charge.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Please tell me why you're not in personnel or coaching. Honestly, if you feel you can do a better job, get into the profession and start making waves. Someone of your immense genius should clearly be calling the shots

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I know its 3rd stringers but Mitchell and Daniels look great!

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

they do look great, I agree. I had no idea that Daniel was that fast. Do you think he beats out Colt? Not likely, but strangers things have happened

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to be a genius to see the longevity of our ineptitude. I can't coach or scout or run a franchise, I also can't fly a plane, or perform brain surgery, or paint a masterpiece, or hit a major league curveball.......but I can tell when others can and when they can't....after a decade of crappy offenses, 3+ years of JC, and our horrible offense last year its pretty obvious JC is at best mediocre.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

If Dave Rayner beats out Suisham, can we please call him Wolfcastle, in honor of Rainier Wolfcastle? Sween, where are you, back me up

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

But if it's so plainly obvious that JC is terrible and needs to come off the field, why is he not off the field yet? What I'm trying to say is that coaches on the skins watch hours and hours and hours of footage of both Collins and Campbell. Don't you think they'd put the player on the field that gave the team the best chance of winning? If they wouldn't do so, why not? I don't think there's a reasonable or realistic reason as to why that wouldn't happen, other than that the coaches are grossly incompetent. But if that was the case, they wouldn't have gone 6-2 to start the season last year. It woulda been terrible if that was the case

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Have coaches never gotten things wrong? Just because they look at hours of tape and research and blah blah blah doesn't mean they're right. I'm sure in terms of athleticism and arm strength and in practice where even full speed isn't really full speed and knowing that he'll never really take a hit JC certainly looks like the most talented guy at the position on the roster. But the fact remains he doesn't win games, he makes slow decisions, he isn't accurate and our offense under whatever system he's been in has been boring and feeble.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 22, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Sure, coaches get things wrong. My basic point is that you feel, after watching three hours of Jason Campbell football a week, that you know better than the coaches.

Never mind the fact that the coaches evaluate both Campbell and Collins every single day of the week for hours and hours, both in person and later on film. Never mind that the coaches have been in football their entire lives. Someone who watches Redskins players on TV, from a few angles, for three hours a week (and one player for an hour a week for only 4 weeks out of the year) knows better and can do a better job than them.

I don't think the point I'm trying to make is too insane, really

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

HTTR. Nice to see them win a game again, even if it doesn't count for anything. The entire team definitely seemed waaaaay more "with it" tonight

Posted by: -swb | August 22, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Damn,the O-line looked nice tonite.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 22, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

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