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Redskins Unrestricted: Gameday Preview

Jason Reid sets up the big event tonight: not John McCain's speech, but the NFL opener, featuring the Redskins out in the swamps of Jersey.

Speaking of the RNC vs. the NFL on TV tonight, The League asks an interesting question today: which will be better television, the game or the speech? I think I know which way 99 percent of this blogs' readers would vote ...

By Jon DeNunzio  |  September 4, 2008; 12:15 PM ET
 
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Posted by: el freako | September 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm bringing the thunder tonight.

Posted by: LaRon Landry | September 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RIP ST 21 | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RIP ST 21 | September 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

+++... it's all personalized. Heyer was nice to me THEREFORE he is a nice guy. He had praise for Thrash not because he was nice to him in the locker room, but because he was doing a genuinely nice thing for kids and he's long had the reputation of being an exceptional individual. Big difference. Life isn't always that black and white.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 4, 2008 12:08 PM+++

Heyer is a kid in a tough situation. A lot of people, myself included, look at young athletes and often think, "spoiled brat." It's a cliche, and like most cliches has more than a bit of truth to it.

Which makes the Heyer item worth running (particularly on a blog) is it goes against that grain. Here's a young guy who felt he was being rude, then sucked it up and went back and made sure people didn't misinterpret his reasoning.

I came away from it not caring about the reporter's feelings, but having a good sense about the young tackle.

We wonder what athletes are like. I find it more than fascinating that a guy who was rejected on draft day ovecame that insult to his ego and is now starting in place of an old vet, and ahead of other old vets (Wade and Fabini). I think his going back to reporters helps shine a light on what makes the man behind the facemask tick.

It indicates self-assurance, good upbringing and common sense. THAT's what the piece was about, IMO.

The Thrash item as a completely different item about a completely different subject, but also helped illuminate the good character of a Redskin.

Yep, that La Canfora sure must hate that team.

Posted by: Corkczar | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't pay the Ransom! I've escaped!

Posted by: J. Reid | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

++Don't pay the Ransom! I've escaped!

Posted by: J. Reid | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM++


Post of the day .... LMAO

Posted by: cej75024 | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Yep, that La Canfora sure must hate that team.

Posted by: Corkczar | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM

Look, don't get me confused with the crowd that thinks JLC is part of some vast Post conspiracy to smear the Skins. I just think he's making business personal. That's all. If you want to write a column about Heyer and his transition to starter, then do it. God knows that would have made more sense than to write a long story about old Vinny sh*t on the eve of the regular season opener.

Just don't tell me that Heyer is a good guy because he apologized to you. It takes more than that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

So what will everyone be eating and drinking tonihgt?

I have: a 4 meat pizza & shrimp sauted in garlic and olive oil. Bottle of Red Lable.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM

Some Tequila Lime Chicken Wings, Stir Fried Shrimp with Oyster Sauce and Red Chili Paste.

To drink, well you guys know that answer.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

AGH! I am so nervous about the game! The only good thing is that I am leaving work early in order to get home in time for kickoff. I just hope Campbell can get his rhythm and I'll be okay.

Oh and Cooley needs to score all the TDs for my (non-RI) fantasy team.

Posted by: suzannepdc | September 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, tossup between watching John McCain (I hope they use Lieberman's ghastly cyan-screen in the background) and Jim Zorn.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

but why crucify the guy for saying something NICE about one of the players? For cripes sake!!!!????
Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 11:54 AM
Because it's all personalized. Heyer was nice to me THEREFORE he is a nice guy. He had praise for Thrash not because he was nice to him in the locker room, but because he was doing a genuinely nice thing for kids and he's long had the reputation of being an exceptional individual. Big difference. Life isn't always that black and white.
Posted by: brownwood26 | September 4, 2008 12:08 PM

Here's what he opens with on Thrash:
"James Thrash seems to be about as good a person as you'll find. He knows my kids' names, though we don't chat nearly as often as we should, and asks about them all the time. He's just plain good people."

Seems like he's pretty nice to Jason too.
Here's what he says about Heyer:
"(One thing about Heyer - he's a hard kid not to like and root for. He's very well mannered, pleasant and knows how to carry himself. He also worked his tail off this offseason.............But the fact he would track us down before he headed to meetings to pass along his concerns was a pretty good indicator of the kind of kid he seems to be.)".

Where is the "nice to me equals THEREFORE a nice guy"? It's pretty obvious that he FEELS that Heyer is nice based upon conversations and observations.

I see no difference between the posts; you are the one making this black and white.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

So what will everyone be eating and drinking tonihgt?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM

No eating. Lots of drinking. Going to see Jimmy Buffett. Bad timing but they were my father's day present. Can't let down the wife and son by not going.

Posted by: BCBarney | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Maybe because he's been joined at the hip with Snyder ever since Danny bought the team?

+++This pissing contest is beyond redundant and old.+++

yeah well, so am I.

Offered with respect and not even a drop of urine.


Posted by: Corkczar | September 4, 2008 11:55 AM

Okay Cork, so because Snyder and Cerrato have been "joined at the hip" since Snyder bought the team, that mean we should constantly pick apart Cerrato and his decisions. Okay, Siegfried & Roy have also been "joined at the hip" for years, do we pick apart their act constantly?

I know you're not too high on Cerrato and the draft, but g.d., this is getting tiresome. How about we give Vinny a nickname, how about we constatntly harp about how he was kept out of the loop re: Jason Taylor, or even better how about we discusss every other week about his roster decisions since him and Snyder have been "joined at the hip".
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My GOD!!!!!!!!!! It's impossible to keep it strictly football, is it? Either we have to evaluate Vinny before a play is snapped because the beat writer got his feelings hurt and feels slighted, OR we must have have SOME talk of politics. Yeah I know, you only asked which will better television, but these posters (including myself) are savaged untamed beast. We don't know how to be subtle. Your better TV question will turn into a full-flegged debate about Obama/McCain. Man, you guys are a bunch of drama kings!

WaPO: We know drama.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone been listening to espn980's 24 hour pregame show? I swear, if I ever get a chance to meet that arrogant sob kevin sheehan, I'm gonna punch him right in the baby maker.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, tossup between watching John McCain (I hope they use Lieberman's ghastly cyan-screen in the background) and Jim Zorn.


Posted by: P Diddy | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM

If the game goes into OT and f'ing John McCain is suddenly on the TV, I will not be happy - I fully expect the RNC to have a little TV all set up to make sure the game is over before he goes on stage! :)

Posted by: suzannepdc | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Just don't tell me that Heyer is a good guy because he apologized to you. It takes more than that.
Posted by: brownwood26 | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM
I'm just curious as to what it will take before he's "allowed" to post his opinion (on his blog).

Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the RNC vs. the NFL on TV tonight...Posted by Jon DeNunzio

Speaking of bad timing. The NFL preseason games get more television ratings the regular season MLB games and many other televised programs. And this is scheduled on opening night of the NFL??

Easy vote.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone been listening to espn980's 24 hour pregame show? I swear, if I ever get a chance to meet that arrogant sob kevin sheehan, I'm gonna punch him right in the baby maker.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM

NG,

I have been listening to it all day Sheehan is a a$$, I do not even think he is qualified to talk football.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I am pretty sure that the RNC scheduled its convention WAY before the NFL decided when opening night was - I think they pick the city like two years in advance (both parties) and the NFL schedule came out like 3 months ago, so it's really not the RNC that created the "conflict" - and this is coming from someone is very much not a Republican.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I am pretty sure that the RNC scheduled its convention WAY before the NFL decided when opening night was - I think they pick the city like two years in advance (both parties) and the NFL schedule came out like 3 months ago, so it's really not the RNC that created the "conflict" - and this is coming from someone is very much not a Republican.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM

OK, so I am ingnorant on the scheduling. But my vote stays the same!

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Honestly the coverage today on ESPN 980 sounds the same as Cork and AL having a conversation about the Skins.

They say the preseason does not matter then they say the defense is bad because they could not tackle in the preseason.

When they get a guess on who says good things about the Skins, they cut him off and disagree.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

So what will everyone be eating and drinking tonihgt?

I have: a 4 meat pizza & shrimp sauted in garlic and olive oil. Bottle of Red Lable.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM

I'm having a steak that I'm calling "Eli's Spleen."


Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Cork, we all have opinions, can I be entitled to mine......

Posted by: Greg | September 4, 2008 12:15 PM

Greg, you were kidding right? That is not Cork's mo. Everyone must think like him.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

News flash, dlhaze: if JLC were to pull a Jay Mariotti right now, guess what? RI will press on. Don't be confused. Just because JLC was the beat writer when the blog started doesn't mean that he owns copyrights to the damn thing.

It belongs to the Post.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

While I enjoy a lot of what Doc Walker has to say, the fact that he brings up Justin Tryon as his main reason for having doubts about the secondary really blows my mind. When a 5th CB is your biggest question mark in the defensive secondary, I'd say you have a pretty solid group.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

but why crucify the guy for saying something NICE about one of the players? For cripes sake!!!!????
Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 11:54 AM
Because it's all personalized. Heyer was nice to me THEREFORE he is a nice guy. He had praise for Thrash not because he was nice to him in the locker room, but because he was doing a genuinely nice thing for kids and he's long had the reputation of being an exceptional individual. Big difference. Life isn't always that black and white.
Posted by: brownwood26 | September 4, 2008 12:08 PM

Here's what he opens with on Thrash:
"James Thrash seems to be about as good a person as you'll find. He knows my kids' names, though we don't chat nearly as often as we should, and asks about them all the time. He's just plain good people."

Seems like he's pretty nice to Jason too.
Here's what he says about Heyer:
"(One thing about Heyer - he's a hard kid not to like and root for. He's very well mannered, pleasant and knows how to carry himself. He also worked his tail off this offseason.............But the fact he would track us down before he headed to meetings to pass along his concerns was a pretty good indicator of the kind of kid he seems to be.)".

Where is the "nice to me equals THEREFORE a nice guy"? It's pretty obvious that he FEELS that Heyer is nice based upon conversations and observations.

I see no difference between the posts; you are the one making this black and white.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM

This may be the most tired, idiotic argument I've ever witnessed.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Any advice for convincing the bar I'm going to (on Capitol Hill) to not turn the volume up for McCain's speech so those of us Skins fans (including one of the bar owners) can listen to the game?

Posted by: Aliza | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps bloggers are angry about JLC's comments about Heyer because they remember how much JLC criticized Heyer last season....he did not give the poor guy a chance.

Posted by: Lisa | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone been listening to espn980's 24 hour pregame show? I swear, if I ever get a chance to meet that arrogant sob kevin sheehan, I'm gonna punch him right in the baby maker.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM

Frickin' hilarious.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Greg, you were kidding right? That is not Cork's mo. Everyone must think like him.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM

I have a different take on it. Cork is never so happy as when someone has a different opinion than he does and he can give 'em a few kicks. They're entitled to their opinion: they're just wrong. If everyone agreed with him it would force him to change his mind or go to a different blog. More likely the former.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

What I dislike about the "Red Zebra Media Takeover"

1. The incessant Larry Michael ad-ware.

2. The underlying muzzling of Andy and Czabe (guarantee no more "Little Danny" comments from Andy).

3. Being force-fed Riggins and Kevin Sheenan's "analysis" instead of choosing to tune-in.

Posted by: What? Who? | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

i hear "Eli Liver" goes well with some farber beans and a nice bottle of chianti.

Posted by: Stu | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Conventions in modern history have been held in July and August. The NFL starts after Labor Day. If the viewing numbers for the convention are way down, then blame the goofballs at the RNC for the scheduling conflict.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Any advice for convincing the bar I'm going to (on Capitol Hill) to not turn the volume up for McCain's speech so those of us Skins fans (including one of the bar owners) can listen to the game?

Posted by: Aliza | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM

Tell them McBush is a A$$-Hat and nobody gives a Sh!t what he has to say.

It's the same sh!t Bush has said for the last 8 years

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

curz, good call, don't know what I was thinking??

I'm just happy that the season is finally here....

Posted by: Greg | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

No eating. Lots of drinking. Going to see Jimmy Buffett. Bad timing but they were my father's day present. Can't let down the wife and son by not going.

Posted by: BCBarney | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM

You can always have those Cheeseburgers in Paradise ...

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Also I'd like to note, one thing overlooked as a whole is the character we have on our team. Can we attribute that to Vinny? No? Oh...


but seriously, compare us to the Bengals or the Cowboys, and THAT is what's great to be a Redskin.

Posted by: The Truth | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Suggesttion on Cap Hill, dont go for a redskins game, unless your hitting up eastern market. Its impossible to watch DC sporting events near the hill... ex. Cap playoff last year we had to beg the bartenders at Union Pub to turn off the freakin red sox game so we could watch the caps in the playoffs. No love for the home team on the hill.

Posted by: Stu | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

i hear "Eli Liver" goes well with some farber beans and a nice bottle of chianti.

Posted by: Stu | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM

And a girl named Clarise.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

News flash, dlhaze: if JLC were to pull a Jay Mariotti right now, guess what? RI will press on. Don't be confused. Just because JLC was the beat writer when the blog started doesn't mean that he owns copyrights to the damn thing.
It belongs to the Post.
Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM

Red, I don't know who Jay Mariotti is, but I think I see what you are saying. I know it's the Post's blog, and I am not confused about it. I know RI would press on if JLC left. It would press on bashing every other thing the new guy said, just because it makes people fell internet smart and tough.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Buffet is my favorite no-talent artist ever.


Seriously, the guy can't write good lyrics minus some exceptions, his voice isn't that good, he's a decent guitar player, but he's just so awesome.

Still I'm glad I'll be watching the Redskins beat the Superbowl chumps AT their place!

Posted by: The Truth | September 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

What I dislike about the "Red Zebra Media Takeover"

1. The incessant Larry Michael ad-ware.

2. The underlying muzzling of Andy and Czabe (guarantee no more "Little Danny" comments from Andy).

3. Being force-fed Riggins and Kevin Sheenan's "analysis" instead of choosing to tune-in.

Posted by: What? Who? | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM

The worst is having Big Dummy and little Dummy (Mike&Mike) on in the morning and some moron name Colin cowpie or something like that.

You can stream Czab's morning show online that is what I do.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"feel internet smart and tough", that is....

Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Well I do the credit for characture of this team goes to Gibbs, I don't think Vinny deserves any blame for it. Though I notice 2 things Vinny was in SF to draft TO was he not? As soon as Gibbs retired we tried to get Loco-Ocho.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Etrod, Good call on the Saranac BTW. I live for the stuff, but am going to be drinking at work starting arround 4.

Posted by: 35332 | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of things that I don't like about the Red Zebra take over of SportsTalk (is there a worse commercial than the Larry Michaels CropMetcaf A/C bit?), but it almost seems like they're going out of their way to be overly critical of this team.

Or maybe its just the nature of this town. After wins, people start shouting for Super Bowls, and after losses, people start looking forward to the draft and firing Zorn.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Also I want to thank whoever said "Cheeseburger in Paradise" for now having that song stuck in my head. Mucho gracias

Posted by: The Truth | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

chris larry micheals

Posted by: coincidence? | September 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

"Seriously, the guy can't write good lyrics minus some exceptions, his voice isn't that good, he's a decent guitar player, but he's just so awesome."
-The Truth

The discription sounds like the same one I use about Bob Dylan. Only he is 1000% better song writer, 100% worse voice.

Posted by: 35332 | September 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Some Tequila Lime Chicken Wings, Stir Fried Shrimp with Oyster Sauce and Red Chili Paste.

To drink, well you guys know that answer.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM

I'm guessing something that will complement the Tequila Lime Chicken Wings.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

+++Okay Cork, so because Snyder and Cerrato have been "joined at the hip" since Snyder bought the team, that mean we should constantly pick apart Cerrato and his decisions. Okay, Siegfried & Roy have also been "joined at the hip" for years, do we pick apart their act constantly?+++

Nice reference. What, were Sonny & Cher taken?

In answer to your question, since Snyder owns the team, and Cerrato runs all matters personnel, um, yeah.

Speaking of verbs: Next time may I suggest "discuss Cerrato and his decisions," not the more inflammatory "pick apart Cerrato and his decisions."

Jes tryin' to keep it civil.

Posted by: Corkczar | September 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze, I don't think it has anything to do with being smart and tough at all. As I've said already, I was one of JLC's biggest supporters. I too used to think that he was just "expressing his opinion".

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Jason La Canfora is salty because him and Vinny Cerrato don't get along. Either you read Vinny or Snyder throwing shots at him (way less) or JLC throwing shots at them (way MORE). It's obvious that the two sides will never like each other. I think they should fight or Fu&k already. If not keep the others name out your mouths, act professional, but most importantly act like F'n grown men. Not little schoolgirls on the playground at recess.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I hate Larry Michaels.

Posted by: The Universe | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

One way or another, we are going to blow the roof off the RI Bloggy sphere tonight.

If we can nuetralize Plaxico, stop Jacobs up the middle, get a little pressure on Eli, and not have Doughty get punked by Boss, we win.

Its all about stopping the Giant O tonight in my opinion.

Posted by: DTC | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Also I want to thank whoever said "Cheeseburger in Paradise" for now having that song stuck in my head. Mucho gracias

Posted by: The Truth | September 4, 2008 1:14 P

De nada

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Who will be the first to 'jump ship' and will take the "I told you so" approach if the Redskins lose:

1. Al Zeke
2. Cork
3. Dealer
4. DL Haze

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Well I do the credit for characture of this team goes to Gibbs, I don't think Vinny deserves any blame for it. Though I notice 2 things Vinny was in SF to draft TO was he not? As soon as Gibbs retired we tried to get Loco-Ocho.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 1:12 PM

For the record I am a fan of Danny/Cerrato and I do agree with you on Gibbs bringing character guys to the Skins. Mostly I thank Gibbs for educating both Danny/Cerrato.

But more than anything about your post, I thank the stupid FO of the bengals for saving those two, Danny/Cerrato from themselves.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

+++That is not Cork's mo. Everyone must think like him.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM+++

Which makes me different from you and the rest of the shrinking violets here, exactly how?

Posted by: Corkczar | September 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Who will be the first to 'jump ship' and will take the "I told you so" approach if the Redskins lose:

1. Al Zeke
2. Cork
3. Dealer
4. DL Haze

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:19 PM

What ever one of them types faster.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Who will be the first to 'jump ship' and will take the "I told you so" approach if the Redskins lose:

1. Al Zeke
2. Cork
3. Dealer
4. DL Haze

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:19 PM

I'm first. How cool is that?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone going to be posting during the game?

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

For the record I am a fan of Danny/Cerrato---

Right now I could cut my fingers off (except I need them to hold my shot glass tonight!), what I meant was:

I AM NOT A FAN OF Danny/Cerrato

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

though I did predict the Skins go 10-6 (with little confidence in my prediction)

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

20 minutes of work left I want to get home and get ready, to bad I can not put the kids to bed at 7:00pm.

They got the hint last year not to bother Daddy during a game.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Anyone going to be posting during the game?

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:23 PM

Do rabits hop... sorry there should be a um in place of the o.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze, I don't think it has anything to do with being smart and tough at all. As I've said already, I was one of JLC's biggest supporters. I too used to think that he was just "expressing his opinion".
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Jason La Canfora is salty because him and Vinny Cerrato don't get along. Either you read Vinny or Snyder throwing shots at him (way less) or JLC throwing shots at them (way MORE). It's obvious that the two sides will never like each other. I think they should fight or Fu&k already. If not keep the others name out your mouths, act professional, but most importantly act like F'n grown men. Not little schoolgirls on the playground at recess.
Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM


Red, I agree that the JLC vs FO thing is getting a little old. I wasn't getting on anybody about criticizing that. It just irks me when people "call out" JLC for saying something nice about a player (or two). I don't care if someone used to be a JLC supporter or not, but if you criticize him for saying bad things, AND for saying nice things, you're just being a hypocrite and need to get over yourself. The internet smart/tough comment is just to say that there are people up here who are only up here to criticize anyone and everyone because it seems to make them feel better about themselves. Especially the anons.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to comment about this B dot freakin' S one more time and I'm done. There is a regualar season game tonight, dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well cork, they were the first to come to mind, you know given the fact that they're two men who perform magic tricks, sort of like what you and other fans expect Cerrato and Snyder to do with this team.

They're going to make mistakes. Have they been the best GM/owner combo ever? No. Do we need to discuss every other week or evaluate the GM BEFORE THE F'N KICKOFF of game 1 of the regualar season? No. By constantly discussing Cerrato in some form or fashion, is La canfora making it obvious that he has a freakin' Paul Bunyan axe to grind? HELL YES!

It's getting old now. It's my opinion and I'm going to express it. But unlike La Canfora I'm not going to harp about it for all eternity, come up with polls regarding JLC axe grinding, make suggestive remarks, or come up with cute little nicknames for Jason La Canfora.

fin.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Question for the RI: What are the current record predictions? Have most abandoned the double digit win predictions?

I've said 9-7 or 10-6 and I'm sticking to that. Anyone else?

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Has the whole world gone mad? Am I the only one around here that gives an ish about the rules? Mark is zero.


Redskins tonight WOOOOOO!!

Posted by: Walter | September 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Alex I have only been with the blog since the months leading up to the draft.

Was not sure how much in game blogging goes on, I guess I will find out tonight.

Riggins is on talking bad about the Skins as usual. Love him when he played not so much now.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Personnel-wise, this team is as good as last year. Maybe better. Every starting unit is above average, save perhaps the WRs in 3 wideout sets and Campbell (who was average last year). But Campbell should improve.

The o-line should be better considering the injury problems last year. Santana was a disaster for a big chunk of last season, no reason to expect that to repeat itself.

It really comes down to the mental aspects of the game. If they have the intensity (and are OK with injuries), they will be a playoff team.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

though I did predict the Skins go 10-6 (with little confidence in my prediction)

Good that you left yourself an excuse, if that doesn't happen.

"I said 10-6, but I wasn't confident in that prediction, therefore CLEARLY I, AL, am right again"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

NG, I have stated 10-6 several times and I am still confident of that.

Tonight 24-17 Skins.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Riggins is saying Colt should be the starter becasue he seems more confident then JC.

It is easy to be confident when you know you will not play.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

The Truth's predictions :

Giants lead 14-7 at halftime.

Redskins win the game 35-17. (That's right)


Redskins go 9-7 this year.

Posted by: The Truth | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I am saying 10-6 as well, I think that would be a success, and a place to build for next year.

Hopefully 10-6 gets you into the playoffs.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Just read the article on Vinny. It's very good and well researched.

My only critique is again the harping on lying about the JT trade. Who really cares, it's part of the game. If it was Parcells doing it everyone would have a good chuckle and he'd tell you Tough (*&^ and that he'd do it again.

That cap money and committed cash stuff, although not surpising, was depressing. What are the numbers since JoJo took over if you've got them lyin 'round.

Posted by: Skinz | September 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

They got the hint last year not to bother Daddy during a game.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:26 PM

I'm almost afraid to ask how did they acquire this "hint", but I have to ask.

Did you go 'Joe' from Family Guy or 'Joe' from the Jackson Five?

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

K, there is no way that Colt should be starting tonight, but I do think Colt is more confindent in Colt than JC is confindent in JC. JC plays too unsure. Someone posted overcoached. Maybe that is what he is.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

@ kmdp4: Riggins also stated yesterday that this was NOT a playoff team last year.

Funny how things change when he doesn't have his own show because I specifically remember him saying that this was the best team in the NFC going into the playoffs.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Question for the RI: What are the current record predictions? Have most abandoned the double digit win predictions?

I've said 9-7 or 10-6 and I'm sticking to that. Anyone else?

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:29 PM

I said 10-6 before preseason. I posted 9-7 yesterday. Will stick with the 9-7. I basically subtracted 1 win from the beginning of the season because I think it will take the offense a little longer to get it together than I originally hoped.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Sticking with 5-11, some drama after the season about Coach Cowher, and confirmation that Zorn is returning strung out until early February after Mr. Snyder has had the chance to be covertly spurned by every head coaching candidate in the NFL.

As for player predictions, I think Cooley has a monster year. He will emerge as the only legitimate star (in the Hollywood/personality sense, not the football sense) on the team (apologies to Portis and Landry, who remain aloof and arrogant with the media).

The offensive line will be exposed as a major weakness (limiting both JC and CP's production), and on defense Landry and Jason Taylor both have great years. London Fletcher has a quietly brilliant season which everyone else in the League ignores, but 'Skins fans, being real football aficionados, praise to the high Heavens.

Durant Brooks underperforms vs Frosty in Green Bay. (I think every prediction needs to include a punter prognostication)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I forget what game it was but I was pissed off, and they walked in as I smashed the remote on the ground. They looked at me like you are an idiot, and walked away. My Wife explained to them that daddy is crazy when the Redskins are on so stay away.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

How surprised would you all be if I came out on the first offensive snap as the starting QB? Or even better, the first defensive snap as the starting MLB?

Posted by: Colt Brennan | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

5-11 (sigh0

Posted by: etrod | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

@ kmdp4: Riggins also stated yesterday that this was NOT a playoff team last year.

Funny how things change when he doesn't have his own show because I specifically remember him saying that this was the best team in the NFC going into the playoffs.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:37 PM

What's even more fummy is that they were actually a playoff team last year.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell Riggo to lighten up.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Don't remember Riggins when he played. from what I've seen through video and stats he was a good player.

I don't care too much for him now. I think he's HIGHLY overrated as a football analyst, if you want to call him that. He says questionable things (I'll leave it at that) and just comes off as pompous and living off his reputation, which given his departure from mainstream radio, appears to be fading fast.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Over/Under 100 yards for Portis tonight?

Posted by: The Truth | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Hoping for 15-1, setting myself up emotionally for 1-15, probably will end up 8-8

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

What's even more fummy is that they were actually a playoff team last year.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM

forgive me if I didn't catch the sarcasm, but I think he was basically saying that they weren't "worthy" of being in the playoffs.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

So what will everyone be eating and drinking tonihgt?

I have: a 4 meat pizza & shrimp sauted in garlic and olive oil. Bottle of Red Lable.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM
Prison slop...but for real, Burgers and Shiner Boch.

Posted by: Prison Balls | September 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: slug | September 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I think the Skins can pressure Manning, and I think that losing Osi, and Strahan, is going to be a huge factor for the Giants. To show how desperate they were, they picked up the Eagles first round bust, Jerome McDougal.

I think Redskins win, 24-17. Portis has a good game, as does Marcus W.

Posted by: Greg | September 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Truth,

He goes over I say he has 130 yrds.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Under. Though, without Strahan and Uminyora (sp?), I'm not yet sure how good that Giants D-line is.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Truth,

Definitely over- 117 yds rushing 61 yds catching.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I am off thank the Lord, everyone get home safe and enjoy the game.

Posted by: kmdp4 | September 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

What's even more fummy is that they were actually a playoff team last year.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM

forgive me if I didn't catch the sarcasm, but I think he was basically saying that they weren't "worthy" of being in the playoffs.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM

You're forgiven.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Seriously does Cooley and Campbell both picking eachother in their Fantsy League mean anything to anyone?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: slug | September 4, 2008 1:44 PM

Fell off the chair on that one! Funny.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

@ Curzon: Has CP ever had over 60 yards receiving in a game?

I think Portis gets under 100 tonight, but I think him, Betts, and Sellars combine for over 200 total yards.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Over/Under 100 yards for Portis tonight?

Posted by: The Truth | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM

With offensive struggles in the passing game early on gotta go with the over. Portis will have to carry the team. 119 yards rushing.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

km, you went Joe from Family Guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Swanson#Anger_Issues

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Damned loseable type. With the offense struggling in the passing game early on expect Portis to carry the weight. Over- 119 yards rushing.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

@ Curzon: Has CP ever had over 60 yards receiving in a game?

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM

I know you went @ Curzon, but I think Portis had a 70 something yard reception when they played @ Houston in 06'. I remember wondering "Why didn't he take it to the crib?"

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Look for an unusually healthy Portis to rack up 200 all purpose yards and 3 TD's

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

@ Curzon: Has CP ever had over 60 yards receiving in a game?

I think Portis gets under 100 tonight, but I think him, Betts, and Sellars combine for over 200 total yards.

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM

He had 78 against Huston in 2006 and 86 against the bears last year.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Suzanne - first, welcome to Houston - and second, remember that you are in a very Red State down here (but they won't switch to the McCain speech!)

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN.com

7: NFC East (order of finish)
Gene's NFC East picks
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4.

Philadelphia Eagles -- Donovan McNabb hasn't played a full season since cheesesteaks were invented. He has a four-year injury streak, is 31 and just lost Kevin Curtis, one of the few decent receivers the Eagles have on the roster. Yet I figure he'll stay healthy long enough to lead the Eagles to a division title.

Rookie DeSean Jackson gives Philly a much-needed speed weapon in the receivers rotation, as well as a legitimate punt return threat. It might not sound like much, but the Eagles finally have a kickoff return man, too: Quintin Demps. And as long as Westbrook is an Eagles employee, life is usually good. The offensive line has age and depth issues, but I'm still rolling the bones on these guys.

Dallas Cowboys -- Last season's 13 wins weren't a fluke (OK, maybe the win at Buffalo, when Dallas overcame five interceptions of Tony Romo), but there are too many moving parts for the Cowboys to match that victory total in 2008. You remember the 12-1 start; I remember the 1-3 finish (6, 6 and 17 points in those three losses). Roy Williams isn't an every-down safety anymore, the O-line is getting AARP-ish and, just a reminder, Cowboys wide receivers not named Terrell Owens are dropping like crime bosses in the baptism scene of "The Godfather."

On paper, the Cowboys are the best team in the division. But I just can't take the full leap of faith yet.

New York Giants -- Enjoy that NFL Films commemorative Super Bowl DVD, fellas, because there will be no repeat. There might not even be a playoff spot. Generally speaking, it's not exactly a formula for success when you lose your two starting Super Bowl defensive ends before the first snap of the regular season. But that's what has happened. Michael Strahan was lost to TV and powder makeup. Osi Umenyiora was lost to an operating table. Sorry, that's a playoff deal-breaker.

Washington Redskins -- Daniel Snyder is the owner. Jim Zorn is the first-time coach. The NFC East is merciless. Gee, what could go wrong? Seven wins, tops.

Posted by: etrod | September 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis 78 yards rushing.

36 yards passing and one rec. TD.

Mark it down.


Oh man, like 5 hours to go. I can't feel my legs.

Posted by: Skinz | September 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

That picture of the Dan and the Vin smileing on the front page makes me feel a little queezy. Its either that or that new Volcano taco from Taco Bell (delicious by the way).

Posted by: uuuuuuugggghhhh | September 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

5 hours till game time!!!

Posted by: ng1055 | September 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

text please.

Posted by: dealer | September 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me with that analysis?? Thats just awful.

Posted by: Greg | September 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

though I did predict the Skins go 10-6 (with little confidence in my prediction)

Good that you left yourself an excuse, if that doesn't happen.

"I said 10-6, but I wasn't confident in that prediction, therefore CLEARLY I, AL, am right again"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM

Talent-wise, this is a 10-6 team, maybe better. But Zorn is a mystery as coach and the offense is entirely new. Why would anyone be confident in their prediction at this point?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

clinton portis 3 Td's and 150 yards rushing

Posted by: dealer | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

run, run, run, run, run, pass

Posted by: dealer | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

everyone give JC a break, not only does he have to learn new systems but every coach tries to change his mechanincs. I remeber last year al saunders talking about changing his footwork, now Zorn is changing his posture and footwork. can you imagine everyear someone changing not just the plays, but how you throw the ball, I see why he can be timid at times.

Posted by: Great One | September 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Too many posts today. I would love to discuss Tina Fey, I mean Palin, but I know it's game day.

I haven't read much today but I can assume most of y'all hating on Palin. I think she did a good job.....

JLaC still hating, but I like it. He prob turned the tide on Heyer, though......

I won't be in game mode until I get out of this office. Someone got fired yesterday in my department when I was out sick. For not holding the elevator for the owner of the company......

Everyone is tense at the moment...........

Posted by: 4th | September 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Sorry already posted this on an earlier blog; but didn't get too many response.

Any fellow Skins fans in the Boston area feel like meeting up to watch tonight's game?

I can meet anywhere in the downtown/Brookline/JP area...

Let me know!

HAIL!
Chris

http://www.thehogs.net/html/funzone/PlacesToWatch.php

Posted by: Beantown (aka Stumptown) Chris | September 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Who else already posted a question for JLC in his Q&A?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Now is no time to discuss Palin. More importants things to discuss than the future or our country such as what color pants do you think we'll come out in?

Posted by: Skinz | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I won't be in game mode until I get out of this office. Someone got fired yesterday in my department when I was out sick. For not holding the elevator for the owner of the company......

Everyone is tense at the moment...........

Posted by: 4th | September 4, 2008 2:04 PM

That type of firing= lawsuit.

Posted by: 35332 | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Now is no time to discuss Palin. More importants things to discuss than the future or our country such as what color pants do you think we'll come out in?

Posted by: Skinz | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM

Gold

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 4, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Someone posted overcoached. Maybe that is what he is.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 4, 2008 1:37 PM

was me on that 'overcoached' thing

At some level, Zorn has to let Campbell be himself. Not sure how to describe that. Except maybe by looking at the opposite end of the spectrum ... with SJ9

SJ9 in his last seasons under George Allen. Don't think Sonny cared one bit about what the coach thought when he was on the field. Sonny understood what he did well and just did it.

Not saying Campbell needs to move to that extreme, but some of that attitude might be helpful

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

What I say!

Posted by: Roadrunner | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

That type of firing= lawsuit.

Posted by: 35332 | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM

Alex ... look up the term 'at will' employment. kinda sucks, but its the norm in most places

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

1-15 starts tonight!

3 & out on the first series sets the tone.

Posted by: Danny's Boyz | September 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

YA FIYAD

Posted by: The Donald | September 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Beeps

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

"AT their place"
_________

Truth, you actually going to the game?

Posted by: Kelli Johnson is Hot | September 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Been a while between posts, but it couldn't be more clear for me tonight: If the Skins get two passes over 25 yds in the first half, they win or, at a minimum, keep it very close. Otherwise forget it. If we can't show a legit long threat we are looking at 8-9 Gnats in the box killing our screens, guts and slants all day.

Posted by: Cal Daddy | September 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

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