Redskins Sign WR Mitchell

The Washington Redskins announced today that they have signed seventh-round draft pick Marko Mitchell. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Mitchell is the fourth of the Redskins' picks to be signed in the past two days, along with LBs Cody Glenn and Robert Henson and FB Eddie Williams.

The Redskins selected Mitchell, a wide receiver, No. 243 overall. Mitchell had 153 catches for 2,763 yards and 22 touchdowns in two seasons at Nevada after transferring from Mesa(Az.) Community College.

By Paul Tenorio  |  June 12, 2009; 7:09 PM ET
Categories:  Redskins Unrestricted Share This:  E-Mail | Technorati | Del.icio.us | Digg | Stumble Previous: Redskins Sign Henson, Cut Cain, Smith
Next: With Thrash Gone, Which WRs Make the Cut?


Add Redskins Insider to Your Site
Be the first to know when there's a new installment of Redskins Insider! This widget is easy to add to your Web site, and it will update every time there's a new entry.
Get This Widget >>


Comments

onetity first

Posted by: Tyler84101 | June 12, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

sweet first

Posted by: jpt1002 | June 12, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

D'oh stupid computer

Posted by: jpt1002 | June 12, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I like his potential and think he could develop into a decent receiver. I'm not counting on much if anything from him next year though, I think he needs to bulk up and learn the offense before he gets any PT.

Posted by: Neverender84 | June 12, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh happy day!

Posted by: chrislarry | June 12, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

JKC left the team to his philanthropic foundation which was running it until it could be sold. Who was in charge? I'm not sure I tried google but not much luck

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 12, 2009 5:47 PM

Same here. But...my foggy old memory said it was the indecisive one, the one who honored his father by naming the stadium after him -- Junior.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 12, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

noone--Here's an article from the Sports Business Journal that refers to John Kent Cooke as the "current team President" in November after the old man's death.

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/18677

And here's one the following April, after the first bid was rejected, that has him as team president.

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/08/sports/sp-25471

So, yeah, he's the one who let those free agents -- including Trent Green -- get away. And, more important, I can still remember events ten years later. But I don't know my wife's birthday.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 12, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Trent Green left because Charlie Casserly refused to pay him 4 mil a year (the Skins offered three). And of course, he did promptly get hurt in St. Louis. Wasn't til he got to KC that he really got his shot.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 12, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

None of them say anything about who picked players.

Charley Casserly picked the players, while Junior was running the business side. The Lawyers/trust controlled the bank vault.

And that's why lost a few players Casserly wanted to keep. His hands were tied by the Trust/Lawyers of the Estate who wouldn't spend......

He said this on NFL Network last year......

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 12, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

We were doubly screwed by the penny-pinching nature of the people running the trust or whatever AND the uncertainty around the whole situation... for a year or two nobody wanted to come play for the Skins.

And then we dodged the bullet named Howard Milstein, breathing a collective sigh of relief, only to wind up with Boy Wonder...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 12, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"In Shahr-e Rey, south of Tehran, voter Ali Badiri said that young women without head scarves had been dancing in the streets over Mousavi's candidacy. "I'll vote for Ahmadinejad, because if Mousavi wins, they will be dancing naked next week," he said."

This sounds like a viable option to nuclear war, and package deals will be available..

Posted by: frak | June 12, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

F the Red Wings for letting the friggin' Cup go to the even more F-worthy Penguins.

Ugh.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 12, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

frak, I won't pretend that I understand most of what you type up here, but for whatever it's worth, I like the cut of your jib.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 12, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

NateinthePDX.....you are good people in my book.


This Mitchell kid might be somebody a year or two down the line.

Posted by: toohoes | June 12, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

In my mind, James Thrash's departure went down like Han Solo leaving the Rebels on Hoth, with JZ in the role of Gen. Reikan: "A [spinal injury]'s not an easy thing to [play] with. You're a good fighter, [Thrash]. I hate to lose you."

And then the roof collapsed while Thrash was helping The Danny get to his car, so Thrash quickly went to Plan B, deciding to whisk his feisty ex-boss safely away in his visually-unappealing-but-wicked-fast custom ride. All the while, a desperate Vinny Cerrato hobbled behind crying, "Wait for me! Wait for me!"

Posted by: freakzilla | June 12, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

wtf

Posted by: toohoes | June 12, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

It's okay.

You'll get used to it.

Posted by: freakzilla | June 12, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

zilla, awfully nice to see you up here, but I... I don't... can't bring myself to see Cerrato as C3PO. C3PO had likable qualities.

toohoes, I appreciate your remark and tip my hat in your direction.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 12, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

ChRisLArrY...what do you think of the stanley cup finals?

Posted by: toohoes | June 12, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

And yet, Nate, you had no problems with my likening The Danny to the lovely and vivacious Princess Leia.

No, when it came time to defend someone's honor, you chose the whiny, foppish, poindexter robot.

Posted by: freakzilla | June 12, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it was Cerrato/threepio that riled me up, but my main issue was really with James Thrash as Han Solo. I mean, come on.

Everyone knows Sonny is this franchise's Han Solo.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 13, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

toohoes:

re stanley cup.....it makes me want to scrape out my intestines with the dirty drug needles from the exchange program....

Posted by: chrislarry | June 13, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

hELL yEAH....

Posted by: toohoes | June 13, 2009 1:21 AM | Report abuse

ahh, Princess Leia.
*sigh*

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 13, 2009 1:40 AM | Report abuse

As I am sure that you can see dcsween, Greg really cares about what you think.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | June 12, 2009 5:26 PM

When you are wrong, it is never wrong to apologize, except if the apology is itself a lie.

And Landry does not seem classless or a thug. He's a dude getting paid under an contract negotiated at arms-length.

Posted by: dcsween | June 13, 2009 1:53 AM | Report abuse

You'll grow to like bean... Indeed a cool customer.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 12, 2009 5:09 PM

Oh please, could you please get a room? [not that there's anything wrong with that]

Posted by: dcsween | June 13, 2009 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Sonny = Han Solo

Fair enough.

Thrash is probably more of a Wedge Antilles. Always there, always giving 100%, occasionally making a clutch play, and can be counted on to give positive affirmation to Jackson.

Posted by: freakzilla | June 13, 2009 2:24 AM | Report abuse

tits

Posted by: toohoes | June 13, 2009 2:48 AM | Report abuse

My gut says giving these low-draft choice receivers an opportunity to play is putting pressure on last year's high draft choices to perform: hooray.

Posted by: pdfordiii | June 13, 2009 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Puck Fittsburg

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | June 13, 2009 7:13 AM | Report abuse

My gut says giving these low-draft choice receivers an opportunity to play is putting pressure on last year's high draft choices to perform: hooray.

Posted by: pdfordiii | June 13, 2009 3:31 AM |

Well, Thrash was putting pressure on them last year and you see how that worked out.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 13, 2009 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Jus' have him go long. Teach him the deep route and throw it ta' him.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 13, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Whats up, Nate, you got any whitefish and bagels in that PDX for an old goyim?? "Mmmm, whitefish..", said Homer.."Now to smear it all over Marge.."

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

found a pretty sick game to keep me entertained while fantasy football is off,

http://goallineblitz.com/game/signup.pl?ref=26970455

Posted by: DaFunBunch | June 13, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

My gut says giving these low-draft choice receivers an opportunity to play is putting pressure on last year's high draft choices to perform: hooray.

Posted by: pdfordiii | June 13, 2009 3:31 AM |

Well, Thrash was putting pressure on them last year and you see how that worked out.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 13, 2009 7:31 AM

It's easier to ignore "pressure" from someone who you know is well on the downside of their career than from someone who is also a young buck and could replace you permanently.
Let the competition begin!

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Some comments by Mike Martz on how he'd use Michael Vick in an NFL offense: as a runner/receiver and only secondarily as a QB. Martz said the team that signs Vick should be one that already has a stable QB situation. Vick would be a 'slash' player along the lines of Troy Brown or Stewart and would occasionally take direct snaps.

Martz and Faulk thought he'd play again somewhere, comparing it as a distraction to what they went through with Leonard Little. Teams they mentioned were NE, Carolina, Houston, even Oakland (what's stable about that QB situation, I wonder?) Funny, the team I thought of was New Orleans.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 13, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I think I missed it up here yesterday (if it was chattered about), but the other paper is saying that, at the end of OTA press conference, Zorn said that there isn't really much of a competition at the strong safety spot and that Chris Horton is the starter.

Posted by: dcsween | June 13, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Idle thoughts on the big vs. small WR debate:
looking at the top ten in receptions last season, numbers 1, 3, 4, 8, and 10 were all over 210 pounds (the biggest: Brandon Marshall at 230.) Under 190 lbs: Welker and Royal.

Easy to forget in the hoopla over Royal's season is that Marshall pulled down 13 more balls at an average of 12.2 yards vs Royal's 10.8, and had 1 more TD.

I admit I also didn't realize how good a season Calvin Johnson had for the absymal Lions -- 78 receptions, 1331 yds, a remarkable 17.1 average (think that's the league's best), and 12 TDs, one stretching 96 yards. 2/3 were for first downs, and the percent of catches over 20 yards was just behind Carolina's Steve Smith.

For a winless team. The Lions drafted a quarterback and a TE this year; wonder what they're thinking?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 13, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

As for Detroit's other WRs, they don't have much. They're obviously hoping to get something out of vets like Ronald Curry and Keary Colbert, and they did draft Derrick Williams from Penn State.. they'll probably be throwing to the TE a lot underneath.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 13, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

89 Santana Moss
82 Antwaan Randle-El
11 Devin Thomas
12 Malcolm Kelly
84 Marko Mitchell?

He'd have to beat out Roydell Williams, Marques Hagans, and Keith Eloi for the possible final spot.

Also, there's Jaison Williams and Trent Shelton.

Posted by: RedCherokee | June 13, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I suspect that Roydell Williams will make the active roster and Marko Mitchel will end up on the practice squad. That is unless either Kelly or Thomas continues to be a slacker and is sent packing.

BTW, is it just me, or do the 'Sikins seem to be trying to set the record for the most Williamses on an NFL roster?

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

BTW, is it just me, or do the 'Sikins seem to be trying to set the record for the most Williamses on an NFL roster?

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 11:32 AM
=======================================

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 13, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

"I suspect that Roydell Williams will make the active roster and Marko Mitchel will end up on the practice squad."

That makes sense.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 13, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

BTW, is it just me, or do the 'Skins seem to be trying to set the record for the most Williamses on an NFL roster?

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 11:32 AM
=======================================

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 13, 2009 11:40 AM

It would make life easier for play-by-play anouncers. If they don't know a guys name they can just call them Williams and have a good chance of being right. :)

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Do we have an Six Flags stock?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 13, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

or any Six Flags stock, even!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 13, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Everyone knows Sonny is this franchise's Han Solo.

Posted by: NateinthePDX

Uhh total disagree. Sonny is more in line with Obi-wan or Qui-Gonn.

Riggo = Han Solo
Theisman = Luke Skywalker
Doug Williams = Mace Windu
Joe Gibbs = Yoda
Lawrence Taylor = The Death Star

Oh Yeah and James Thrash = Biggs Darklighter

Posted by: Predator48 | June 13, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Six Flags files for bankruptcy protection

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31342514/ns/business-us_business/


Dan Snyder is now 2-0 in franchises run into the ground! Great job Danno!

Posted by: Predator48 | June 13, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Saturday June 13, 2009, 10:10 am EDT

NEW YORK (AP) -- The amusement park company Six Flags is seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, saying it needs to reorganize and shed $1.8 billion of debt.

Mark Shapiro, the New York-based company's chief executive officer, says the move won't affect the operation of its 20 theme parks in the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

Six Flags says it actually had a great year in 2008. It saw 25 million visitors and posted record revenues. But executives are trying to lighten a $2.4 billion debt load that they say is unsustainable.

Saturday's bankruptcy filing came after earlier plan to negotiate an out-of-court deal with creditors failed.

Six Flags shares have traded below $1 since September. They closed at 26 cents on Friday.
=========================================

They had no choice, with that debt load they've been dead zombie-park walking since even before Snyder bought 'em. (I hate to cut Danny any slack, but this seems an unvarnished fact to me.)
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 13, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

At 26 cents a share, maybe he can trade a coupla amusement parks to Arizona for Boldin..

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Doug Williams = Mace Windu

Posted by: Predator48 | June 13, 2009 12:24 PM

This a huge insult to Doug Williams. Mace Windu was a jerk who in my opinion had a lot of responsibility for Anakin turning to the Dark Side. If he had shown some faith and trust in Anakin instead of constantly doing just the oposite, Anakin likely would not have turned. He would have been much better off if he had taken Anakin with him to confront Palpatine/Sideous instead of the two chumps he brought along that were dead in about 2 seconds.

If Doug williams were Windu, he would never have trusted Timmy Smith enough to hand him the ball.

P.S. Can we bring Doug back as a coach to add to our total of Williamses?

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

If Doug williams were Windu, he would never have trusted Timmy Smith enough to hand him the ball.

P.S. Can we bring Doug back as a coach to add to our total of Williamses?


Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 3:19 PM

too late kaasmaster, just like coach russ grimm, another franchise has scoffed up SB MVP Doug Williams. he is with the TB Bucs in their front office. Don't be surprised to see TB right in the thick of things very soon in the nfc south, as they have cleared much cap space and have revamped their franchise from the top down.

Posted by: jenksredskins | June 13, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh well, I guess TB sort of had first dibs on him anyway.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm on my way to Artomatic.
www.artomatic.org for info.
It's meet the artist night. So come on down and see TONS of art (9 floors), live music, and meet lots of great artists. (Including ME!)

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

They had no choice, with that debt load they've been dead zombie-park walking since even before Snyder bought 'em. (I hate to cut Danny any slack, but this seems an unvarnished fact to me.)
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 13, 2009 12:43 PM

Right about that thunder. Snyder didn't "buy" Six Flags -- he more about 6% of the stock. He organized shareholders (including Bill Gates) to take control of the board and fire the old management. The new management -- Shapiro -- has done a good job of turning operations around, and last year they had the first operating profit in their history. However, they haven't been able to service the debt.

I think what Snyder (and other shareholders) were counting on was a more robust real estate market. Six Flags owns a lot of now-prime real estate, and if they could sell off land they could have paid down debt. But with the real estate collapse it all blew up.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 13, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Snyder does own 6% of Six Flags and his stock is probably wiped out. But he wasn't the biggest loser. This from the Wall Street Journal:

Also losing out on Six Flags' financial rollercoaster: Microsoft Corp. founder Bill Gates, whose Cascade Investment LLC owned about 10.2 million shares, or an 11% stake. Other big equity holders include Dwight Schar, a Six Flags board member and part-owner of the Redskins alongside Mr. Snyder with a 5% stake; Citigroup Inc. with 9%; Barclays PLC with 6.7%; and hedge fund Renaissance Technologies LLC with 5.5%.

I'm also afraid that RI regular, 4th Floor, is ruined. I believe he owned 9% of the company. He'll probably be up here soon trying to sell his BMW, his yacht, and his Gulfstream.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 13, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Can't he take out some ridiculous insurance policy on Six Flags and have some Arabs fly planes into it or nuke 'em or something, then collect mad profits like Silverman did the Twin Towers?? Then we can invade Iran or whoever..Surely Dan knows people to make this happen.."Remember Six Flags" would be the rallying cry on every bloated pickup truck in 'Merica..

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

BTW, is it just me, or do the 'Skins seem to be trying to set the record for the most Williamses on an NFL roster?

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 13, 2009 11:32 AM

Probably it's just you. There are 57 guys on NFL rosters named Williams. So, every team should have a few, although the Skins seem to be leading the league in this particular statistical category.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 13, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Can't he take out some ridiculous insurance policy on Six Flags and have some Arabs fly planes into it...

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 5:55 PM |

Hey, frak, he did that already. The guys double crossed him and flew their plane into the Pentagon. They laughed at him.

Getting a better management team was what he referred to as "Plan B."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 13, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

If Roydell Williams feets don't fail me now, we may have solved our receiver problem..

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Funny how that plane seemed to vaporize into thin air- a feat impossible for those titanium engines, according to the Boeing engineers who built it..

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Oy vey, don't get me started...It would be awesome if one or more of the receiver youngins exploded onto the scene..(er, my bad..)

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Oy vey, don't get me started...

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse


I'd love to.

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Funny how that plane seemed to vaporize into thin air..

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse


Yea, that tends to happen with fuel, fire, combustion etc..

I mean who was our President huh? Harry Houdini? That'd be giving Bush too much credit there.

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

..and have some Arabs fly planes into it or nuke 'em or something..

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse


Or Asians, or Aussies, or Hispanics, U know, cuz it had nothing to do with religious radicals..

Could you educate me some more please and tell me who cashed out with the London subway bombings or the Madrid train bombing or the tourist bus attacks in Cairo? (chuckle) U know I was beginning to think that the same group of extremists were resposible for all this, but nope: It was Silverman.

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Thrash hasn't been able to pass a physical for at leaast two years, but this year the Skins have some young talent ready to go, therefore, the obligatory Failing of the physical. In years past they would say how he fought his guts out, played through the pain etc...

Posted by: lsskinsfan | June 13, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

...... the same thing will occur with Samuels, Thomas, and Fletch. Wait and see.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | June 13, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Vicc (please don't be refrigerator johnny):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8136133221213939183

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=alex+jones&emb=0#

These two give you a pretty good overview, but the list is huge..Of course with occasional disinfo..BUT USE YOUR MIND..

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=9-11+inside+job&www_google_domain=www.google.com&emb=0&aq=0&oq=9-11+inside#

yer friendly neighborhood punk librarian, frak

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Quien es 'refrigerator johnny'?

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Frak,

Wowie buddy. Say NO to Extremism. Say NO to Propaganda. The 'hidden agendas' of your videos waste no time revealing themselves.

I believe there is Govt. corruption; I just don't think it is limited to conservative officials.

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I hope Keith Eloi makes our team.

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Vicc- If you bothered to even show a modicum of patience and watched the scary truth which causes you such discomfort, you would have heard PLENTY of criticisms of the "Team Venus" Democrats and liberals, as opposed to the more authoritarian NeoCon "Team Mars"..The truth scares comfortable drones , historically...

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

1)...you would have heard PLENTY of criticisms of the "Team Venus" Democrats and liberals..2)The truth scares comfortable drones , historically...

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

1). But not from you right?

2). Spare me the Christian philosophy will ya?

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

1). But not from you right?

2). Spare me the Christian philosophy will ya?

What Christian philosophy?? If you can't sit through the arguments of the accused or accuser because it threatens your precious preconceived f*cking mindset, there is no use communicating with you, you're mind is blocked by channels of your own bullsh*t, you have no open-minded objective perspective, as usual , your kind projects "preconceived agenda" and "more propaganda" on those that threaten your worldview, without making the rational effort of logical argument-Why? It simply THREATENS YOU...USE LOGIC...you f*ckin' gallileo hating status quo robot..

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Frak,

lol, lost your composure pretty quickly didn't ya.

Can you please provide an example of a channel of BS that is blocking my mind or whatever the F you're talking about you immature--in more ways than one--prick. Go get laid, damn and stop wasting time with these anti-getting laid commercial 'truth' videos while chain-smoking cactus tree piff.

Take your thumb outta your ass and stick it in your mouth. Go huff some kerosene, you TOOL. I noticed how quick you pulled out those videos too. Ur lame. side show Junkie.

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

standard issue insufferable drone hic, in need of poseur attention..borrrring...9-11 Was An Inside Job, FOR ETERNITY, a**hole..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8136133221213939183

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=alex+jones&emb=0#

Posted by: frak | June 13, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

You know Frak, I've been looking at our conversation and I'm confident that I've learned more about you than you have of me.

You claim I have a stubborn mindset, but I've said nothing, nor given you anything to back your claim.(Better hope, for yoursake, that you didn't apply the same research techniques to these videos as you did with me)

You have nothing to THREATEN me with and you're a victim of everything you accuse me of.

lol. You only criticize with generalizations for shock appeal. Red-Riding Repetitive Rhetoric. blah blah. this was fun.

Posted by: Vicc | June 13, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, awesome.

A Troofer.

Neat.

Posted by: freakzilla | June 14, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

The Six Flags Park out here in SoCal sits on primo real estate near the family-friendly community of Santa Clarita, ~ 50 miles north of LA, which was almost torched a few years ago in those horrible fires we had :-o

Slightly off topic, but when he retires are we going to campaign for getting Joe Bugel in the HOF? At least, when NFL network does a 'Top Ten Position Coaches', Buges has to be one of them. When you watch Pittsburgh, Carolina, Baltimore, and the Cardinals o-lines, and to an extent the Giants, you see the Hogs. He and Alex Gibbs at Denver have to be two of the greatest modern-day o-line coaches ever.

Posted by: pdfordiii | June 14, 2009 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Hicc, you wouldn't care if Caesar My Lai-ed Carthage or shipped all the juden off to the ovens for an attitude adjustment, just so long as you got your "bread and circuses"..In the words of that immortal Brooklyn philosopher Bugs Bunny, " AAAAAAA, SHADDUP!!"..

Posted by: frak | June 14, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Slightly off topic, ... Joe Bugel ....

Posted by: pdfordiii | June 14, 2009 1:30 AM

Actually, that would be 100% on topic.

Vicc and frak, maybe you guys should exchange emails. Sounds like you are using a lot of inside jargon. Seems like you are disputing something ... not so much Skins (or football) related.

I heart Joe Gibbs. Time to start the narrative.

Posted by: dcsween | June 14, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

T_E, 4th,

Thanks for the follow-up. I sad time it was.

I read an article that said the daughter who was in college, was supposed to have a trust fund to pay for it, but that is not happening so she is suing

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

noone--

The woman, Jacqueline Kent Cooke, receives $50,000 a year from a $5 million trust that Cooke established for her. She claimed that was not enough, sued for $275 million, and lost.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=78689

Also, I thought that she had a full scholarship from SMU but walked away from it. In any event, she has her own web pages and lists herself as SMU 2010. There are also internet stories about her getting arrested for DWI, mooning a police officer, helping the homeless, blah, blah.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 14, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"There are also internet stories about her getting arrested for DWI, mooning a police officer, helping the homeless, blah, blah.
Posted by: talent_evaluator"

You've got it all mixed up. She helped the homeless moon police officers, that's all.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

What can we expect from a second year WR?

Here are some stats from current and former WR "stars"

Marvin Harrison
73 rec, 866 yds, 6 TDs

Torry Holt
82 rec, 1,635 yds, 6 TDs

Randy Moss
80 rec, 1,413 yds, 11 TDs

T.J. Houshmandzadeh
41 rec, 492 yds, 1 TD

Anquan Boldin (only 10 games)
56 rec, 623 yds, 1 TD

Issac Bruce
119 rec, 1,781 yds, 13 TDs

Laveranues Coles
59 rec, 868 yds, 7 TDs

Art Monk
56 rec, 894 yds, 6 TDs

Jerry Rice
86 rec, 1,570 yds, 15 TDs

Charley Taylor
40 rec, 577 yds, 3 TDs

Fred Biletnikoff (only 10 games)
17 rec, 272 yds, 3 TDs

Brian Blades (shout out to HB)
77 rec, 1,063 yds, 5 TDs

Isaac Curtis
30 rec, 633 yds, 10 TDs

Alvin Harper
35 rec, 562 yds, 4 TDs

Irving Fryar
39 rec, 670 yds, 7 TDs

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

noone--That's kind of a biased sample there. How did Taylor Jacobs do in his second year?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 14, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

good call T_E

from WaPo article

After his death in 1997, the young heiress attended the exclusive Foxcroft and Carlbrook boarding schools in Virginia, and then headed for Southern Methodist University in Dallas last fall. Her mother, pursuing a PR career in California and Florida, moved to Texas to join her.

Last month the university said she couldn't continue her studies because she owed $23,000 in tuition; it turns out the $50,000 per year she receives from a $5 million trust doesn't cover all her expenses.

Trustees claim that's all she can collect for now; Jacqueline says her father -- worth more than $1 billion at his death -- intended the trust to provide "necessary" funds for her education, maintenance and support, and has filed a $275 million lawsuit against the estate.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

F/U
Jacqueline Kent Cooke has sued the estate seeking $275 million, but the case was thrown out on November 24, 2008.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

noone--That's kind of a biased sample there. How did Taylor Jacobs do in his second year?

Posted by: talent_evaluator

It's supposed to be biased. Didn't we draft the Three Amigos (DT, MK, FD) to be good? Not to be Taylor Jacobs, Reidel Anthony, Jacquez Green, etc.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

noonefromtampa: "It's supposed to be biased. Didn't we draft the Three Amigos (DT, MK, FD) to be good? Not to be Taylor Jacobs, Reidel Anthony, Jacquez Green, etc."

1st flaw in your reasoning: when did anybody ever draft a player to be average or less? Yet most are.

2nd flaw: You've cherry-picked a comparison group.

3rd flaw: there's no tight end in that comparison group.

You got something against logic?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

You got something against logic?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 2:26 PM

You got something against optimism?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 14, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Why does the Post keep Jason La Canfora name on the insider when he has not worked for the post in some time or at least that is what i keep hearing ??? why not give the credit to the people who are busting their butts to bring you the info instead of someone who does not even work for the post anymore.

Posted by: rnorris6 | June 14, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

For Samson

Tight Ends - Year 2

Redskins

Chris Cooley
71 rec, 774 yds, 7 TDs

Zeron Flemister
18 rec, 196 yds, 2 TDs

Stephen Alexander
29 rec, 324 yds, 3 TDs

Jamie Asher
42 rec, 481 yds, 4 TDs

Clint Didier
8 rec, 153 yds, 4 TDs

Jerry Smith
54 rec, 686 yds, 6 TDs

Other Notables

Mike Ditka
58 rec, 904 yds, 5 TDs

Dave Casper
5 rec, 71 yds, 1 TD

Russ Francis
26 rec, 367 yds, 3 TDs

Kyle Brady
15 rec, 144 yds, 1 TD

Hoby Brenner
16 rec, 171 yds, 0 TDs


Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

1st flaw in your reasoning: when did anybody ever draft a player to be average or less? Yet most are.

2nd flaw: You've cherry-picked a comparison group.

3rd flaw: there's no tight end in that comparison group.

You got something against logic?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 2:26 PM

1 - wouldn't that be the GM's fault not mine
2 - Yes I did, I picked people would I would aspire to be if I played the position. Not sure how that is a flaw
3 - see prev post

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 14, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Well, the median for your little group of TEs looks like 26, so if he's a hair better than Russ Francis, you'll be a happy camper.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"you'll be a happy camper."

And ultimately, isn't that all any of us care about?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse


"you'll be a happy camper."

And ultimately, isn't that all any of us care about?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 6:08 PM |
=======================
Overly optimistic.

You got something against realism?
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 14, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"you got a problem with optimism?"

You got a problem with pessimism?

Wait, this is getting repetitious...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 14, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm opposed to the war on mediocre.

It's not fair.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 14, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow...this might be the 1st time I've ever seen this blog go silent for 24 full hours!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 6:39 AM | Report abuse

And I know this isn't football related, but has anyone else heard the new Black Eyed Peas album? I'm a big fan of their last 2 CDs, but this one...not so much. Only 2 tracks that I'm really excited about and the rest I could totally do without. Kinda feels like they sold out on this one.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 6:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 14, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow...this might be the 1st time I've ever seen this blog go silent for 24 full hours!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 6:39 AM |

Not sure you saw what you thought you saw brownwood. Isn't 6:25 PM to 6:39 AM closer to 12 hours than 24 hours, or is this just "semantics" or "arguing for the sake of arguing"? Maybe you meant "24 half hours" rather than "full hours"?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Don't get all snippy T_E (or should I call you T.O.), that's a typo on my part...I meant 12 hours. I haven't seen the blog go inactive more than 7 or 8 hours, but maybe I'm not on enough to see that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

"...the new Black Eyed Peas album?"

It's not all that.

"Boom Boom Pow" is a club-radio hit, and so, it's hot. But the other tracks are just a lot of auto-tune, beat driven filler.

I'd be on the look out for more tracks from a rapper named Kid Cudi. I heard another song from him that features Common and Kanye West that's tight.

I like Mos Def (I like high end lyrics, rhymning) and bought five tracks from his new cd. I'm still rocking Lupe Fiasco's "The Cool" some new Emimen and a lil Asher Roth.

But this is not a hip hop blog, so I'll stop before the rock heads go off.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

The Los Angeles Lakers are NBA World Champions.

Raise your hand if you care.

Better yet, raise your hand if you somehow remembered the game was even on.

Football fans are now down to 2 speed bumps: the MLB All-Star game and the NFL Preseason.

After that, all hands will be up in the air as the game that matters--football--will be back.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Moe...I hate seeing Kobe clutching a trophy, feels like watching The Joker killing Batman. I need a shower after watching that...

And you're right about the Black Eyed Peas. I'm tempted to go to Target and ask for a refund.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

that's a typo on my part...I meant 12 hours.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 7:26 AM

Ah, yeah, the old 24 instead of 12 "typo." Happens all the time. The only more frequent typo is pwned instead of owned.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Don't get all snippy T_E (or should I call you T.O.), ...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 7:26 AM

talent ovulator?

Posted by: dcsween | June 15, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

talent ovulator?

Posted by: dcsween | June 15, 2009 8:33 AM

I was aiming for "Terrell Owens"...as in a guy who stirs up a lot of sh*t for no really good reason other than he can. But I guess yours could work too in a weird way...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

In an attempt to get things off a contentious note, does anyone else feel like the NFC East is WIDE open this year? Dallas has nothing at WR after letting go of T.O., Philly could see a dropback on D with their coordinator out, the Giants looked lost last year when Burress went out, and the Skins...are the Skins. Thoughts?

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Congrats to the lakers.......whatever..bitter Celtics fan is what I am....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 15, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

brown agreed. Dallas lost TO, which makes them less dangerous offensively. Philly lost both tackles, and I want to see Jason Peters handle the NFC East. NY lost Buress, Ward, and Toomer, over 100 catches, and 1000 yards on the ground. We lost Thrash, and Jansen. However re-signed Mason, so that should be a wash right....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 15, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

However re-signed Mason, so that should be a wash right....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 15, 2009 8:48 AM

That's right...and don't forget Leigh Torrance is still a possibility to lock down our defense and special teams!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Football fans are now down to 2 speed bumps: the MLB All-Star game and the NFL Preseason.

After that, all hands will be up in the air as the game that matters--football--will be back.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait. I can tell my withdrawals getting bad, I played an entire season of NCAA Football 09 over the weekend.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

F the Red Wings for letting the friggin' Cup go to the even more F-worthy Penguins.

Ugh.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 12, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Yes, and Yes.

F- the Penguins, F-Crosby, F-Malkin, and F-Pittsburg. The only that place has going for it is the Pimatti Bros Sandwich.


Posted by: Devo2 | June 15, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

"In an attempt to get things off a contentious note, does anyone else feel like the NFC East is WIDE open this year? Dallas has nothing at WR after letting go of T.O., Philly could see a dropback on D with their coordinator out, the Giants looked lost last year when Burress went out, and the Skins...are the Skins. Thoughts?Posted by: brownwood26"

Yes, but they gave Donovan a $5 million raise, so he promises to play both halves of the season this time...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 15, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Moe - couldn't care less, other than there will be so much overhype about how great Kobe is now that he won a ring without Shaq, even though this was one of the weakest playoffs in years.

I'm sure Im not the only one who saw Kobe do the MJ '98 celebration at the buzzer. I actually won $5 off my friend cause I knew it was coming.

Game 7 of the Stanley Cup was much more exciting.

Posted by: Rypien11 | June 15, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

The only that place has going for it is the Pimatti Bros Sandwich.


Posted by: Devo2 | June 15, 2009 9:03 AM

While I disagree with the "F Pittsburgh" sentiment, I do agree that Primanti Bros. sandwiches are great. I'm pretty sure the root of my high blood pressure can be directly traced to eating one of those sandwiches...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I love that the Eagles gave Mcnabb a big raise….the first time he throws a pick the Philly boo birds will go nuts!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 15, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Yes, but they gave Donovan a $5 million raise, so he promises to play both halves of the season this time...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 15, 2009 9:13 AM

Yeah, but at age 33 and a history of injury, I'm sure his (insert relevant body part here) will have something to say about that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26
Its a fight every year in the east. Still a boatload of top RB's on each team and good solid D on each team. Early for predictions but my gut tells me that the Eagles tank to no. 4 this year at 7-9, now that they are the worst D on paper. Don't ask me why I see it but I do. I think the rest of the east dominates them.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

they'd have boo'd McNabb, raise or not...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 15, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26
Its a fight every year in the east. Still a boatload of top RB's on each team and good solid D on each team. Early for predictions but my gut tells me that the Eagles tank to no. 4 this year at 7-9, now that they are the worst D on paper. Don't ask me why I see it but I do. I think the rest of the east dominates them.


Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 9:23 AM

I don't know, Alex...seems to me that the Eagles are the strongest team in the division all around. Dallas' offense was overrated even with T.O.--now there's nobody there that really scares anyone. Their D can be good but their inconsistent. The Giants have a nice pass rush but their secondary pretty much sucks. And their offense is gonna struggle big time without Plax.

The question of how Philly's D responds is the biggest one surrounding them, but considering two of their former defensive assistants are head coaches now (Spags and Harbaugh), there's probably a guy we've never heard of that's waiting in the wings to take their D to the next level. I don't see anyone in this division winning more than 10 games...that said, I think Philly is the most likely team to get to 10 wins.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

they'd have boo'd McNabb, raise or not...
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 15, 2009 9:33 AM

True, they boo him at some point every year, but they will be even angrier that they sunk more cap space on him than they needed to and it won’t make any difference in his play. Just more for the fans to be mad about. There are a ton of Philly fans who still want Mcnabb canned. Should be fun to watch (unless he has a great year of course)……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 15, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I would pick the Eagles to win the division this year as well. They were a game away from the SB, picked up a couple of really good OL, and had a pretty decent draft. Their WR crew is actually starting to look formidable which is scary. I don’t think their defense will take any steps back as they didn’t hire a new coordinator, so they will have the same system in place with one of Johnson’s disciples calling the shots…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 15, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I just look at the Eagles and see the thinest roster in the east.

The Eagles D lost their best player this year. How will the Dawkens replacement step up remains to be seen. JJ's system always relied on a steady rotation at the line to keep players fresh and great coverage. Now all they have is Samuel in the backfield and a bunch of guys I never heard of.

If Westbrook's got an injury bug then the run game is none.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Alex, having lived up this way for many years now and being forced to follow all that Eagles on the local news, I have learned that under Reid’s tenure you can’t assume the Eagles are going to be out of anything (you can assume they will choke if they get to the Champ game though). There is just something about them, whether it’s Jeff Garcia taking them to the playoffs, or fighting through and abysmal mid-season to go 8-8 and make it to the NFC championship. Every year they lose someone I assume was integral to their offense or defense and it will hurt them, but they always have someone that steps up. I hate to admit it, but they are actually a very well run franchise. Except for the choking…..

I do agree that if they lose Westbrook for any major time they are screwed……but that never seems to stop them.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 15, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Haze,
There has always been 1 guy essential to the Eagles success and that is Westbrook. They were above average before he got there with Duce as the A back. They did not get over the hump till Westbrook was there and I don't see them doing much on O if he's out.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Well said, DLHaze. Very unpredictable team. But for my money, they've got the best QB in the division and that'll win them a good amount of games (provided he stays healthy).

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

If McNabb had a half deacent group of WR's he could have got a ring.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

The Los Angeles Lakers are NBA World Champions.

If it ain't the Wizards, I'd rather see LA win it. Say what you want about Kobe, the dude is in the top 10 of all time. Even before winning it all last night. The Kobe24 haters need pepto bismol this morning - RedDMV

Raise your hand if you care.

*Hand is raised and waving in the air* - RedDMV

Better yet, raise your hand if you somehow remembered the game was even on.

I remembered that it was on, watched it too. I wanted to see a 7 game series, but too much Kobe and Orlando just wasn't up to it, I guess. - RedDMV

Football fans are now down to 2 speed bumps: the MLB All-Star game and the NFL Preseason.

After that, all hands will be up in the air as the game that matters--football--will be back.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 7:57 AM

Agreed on that Football is the best sport -- of all time. But if you get me a choice between baseball and basketball, I'm choosing basketball 11 times out of 10 - yeah that's was typed right.

I like baseball, but basketball is way more exciting to watch than baseball. I'd probably watch hockey over baseball.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Every team in the NFC East is hyped every offseason.

Last year it was the Giants & Cowboys.

The year before it was the Eagles & Cowboys.

The year before that it was the Eagles, Giants, and oh yeah, the Cowboys.

I remember the first year Saunders came in, (2006?), the national media had the 'skins as a possible sleepers team, everyone knows how that season played out.

The 'skins never get any respect, and they shouldn't -- not until they prove that they can be more than just promising.

Eagles have WRs now? Who besides the guys that are returning from last year. If they'd picked up T.J. Whoyoucallin'vanilla, then maybe their WRs would worry be a bit.

The Eagles are the same they've been for the last 8 or 10 years now. Defensive minded team, that relys heavily on Westbrook to be successful. If they don't have him, then they'll throw it 50 times a game.

Did they pick up another RB?

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Disagree I would rather go to a baseball game then basketball, the best sports are meant to be played outside. This is partly why Hockey gets points with me via the Winter Classic.

When the NBA starts playing outdoors on the pavement and blacktop with chain nets and metal backboards. Then I am watching.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Did they pick up another RB?

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse


They drafted this guy:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/lesean-mccoy?id=79607

Posted by: Vicc | June 15, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

They drafted this guy:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/lesean-mccoy?id=79607

Posted by: Vicc | June 15, 2009 11:02 AM

And with their first pick they got WR J Macklin, who looks like a potential stud....I believe he is touted as another "playmaker"...

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 15, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florieoe is on Big O and Dukes said that Holmgren is very high on the Redskins Head Coaching spot for 2010.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I agree with brownwood that Philly is actually looking like the team to beat. "Thin roster" is what the Skins have ... every starter spot filled (with worthy candidates competing for RT and #3WR), but massive drop off at that. Without Burress drawing double coverage, the Giants offense has to compete like everyone else in the league. Same thing with Dallas' receiving corpse. By comparison, the Skins look like they have a very STRONG looking WR group. Defensively, the Skins again look like the tops in the NFC East. I dunno about the others, but Giants presumably remain a tough D.

Also, Skins finally got a punter, which should go a long way re: relative field position +/- over the course of the season.

Posted by: dcsween | June 15, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"I'd probably watch hockey over baseball.

Posted by: RedDMV"

Don't forget soccer. I know your love for the game gets hidden on this blog, but I know where your heart truly lies.

BTW, USA vs. Italy - today, 2:30pm ET. Bring it.

Posted by: psps23 | June 15, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Holmgren one of those 'I like to also be the GM' type coaches?

I wouldn't mind that.

Posted by: Vicc | June 15, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florieoe is on Big O and Dukes said that Holmgren is very high on the Redskins Head Coaching spot for 2010.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 11:21 AM |

Who has better inside sources on the Redskins -- Mike Florio or Jasno?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

psps, keep pimpin' homie. keep pimpin'...

alex, I was talking about watching it on TV, seeing how with the conclusion of the NBA season, we're left with NSCAR and baseball.

oh, and soccer.

let me know when they're playing the world cup championship. i might watch for about three minutes.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Most the info Florio seems to get on the skins he gets from the party that the skins are dealing with, I don't recall hearing what his relationship is like with the skins FO

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

only soccer I'll watch involved my 3 kids, on saturday mornings...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 15, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

If the Rays could play the Nats for another week or two we could catch the Red Sox.

Of course I've only seen the Rays once at RFK when I was up there and the Nats crushed that day. The Rays had like 3 errors. That was a couple of years ago.

I still have my red Nats hat with the "W" they made me wear.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 15, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I still have my red Nats hat with the "W" they made me wear.

Posted by: noonefromtampa

They made you wear the hat? Was Bowden standing there with a shotgun pointed at your d***?

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Well it's actually the Confederation's Cup Tournament right now, which is like a World Cup warm-up. All the winners of the different regions (N. America, S. America, Europe, Africa, Asia, Oceania) the defending World Cup Champs (Italy) and the host (S. Africa). A best-of-the-best type tournament, if you will. So at least watch for 1.5 minutes.

Posted by: psps23 | June 15, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The only good part about the NBA finals is to see how good of riot the winning city can put on.

Detroit is the best in my books

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 15, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Well it's actually the Confederation's Cup Tournament right now, which is like a World Cup warm-up. All the winners of the different regions (N. America, S. America, Europe, Africa, Asia, Oceania) the defending World Cup Champs (Italy) and the host (S. Africa). A best-of-the-best type tournament, if you will. So at least watch for 1.5 minutes.
Posted by: psps23 | June 15, 2009 11:46 AM

Is that like the Intercontinental Championship? Is Pedro Morales still champ? Or is it Ricky “the Dragon” Steamboat? I can’t keep track…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 15, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Holmgren one of those 'I like to also be the GM' type coaches?

I wouldn't mind that.

Posted by: Vicc | June 15, 2009 11:31 AM |

I'm not sure that the would be better than what we have now. Holmgren did such a bad job as GM at Seattle that they took it away from him.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

still have my red Nats hat with the "W" they made me wear.

Posted by: noonefromtampa

They made you wear the hat? Was Bowden standing there with a shotgun pointed at your d***?

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 11:45 AM

No the "friends" that took to the game. At the time there were in a section with a bunch of regular attendees, so they all kinds knew one another. So I ended up with my Rays t-shirt and a Nats hat on.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | June 15, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florieoe is on Big O and Dukes said that Holmgren is very high on the Redskins Head Coaching spot for 2010.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 15, 2009 11:21 AM

I believe it...it's the perfect marriage of coach and owner. Snyder gets the big name he gets hard for and Holmgren gets another sucker to pay him like an elite coach. He'll probably get to "shop for the groceries" too. I don't like it, but it'll definitely be better than the crap sandwich we're getting with Vinny...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

THE TRUTH IS BACK

Posted by: TheTruth11 | June 15, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"Well it's actually the Confederation's Cup Tournament right now, ..." - psps23

So they're playing a tournament called the "Confederation's Cup"? So who's presenting the trophy? Lee? Stonewall Jackson? Longstreet? Pickett? J.E.B. Stuart? Good ol' Jeff Davis?

Reason #146 why I don't watch soccer.


j/k...

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

brownwood

"...And you're right about the Black Eyed Peas. I'm tempted to go to Target and ask for a refund."

Lesson 1

Give up buying whole cds of music.

Lesson 2

Use 'alternative methods': i.e. limewire or whatever to 'procure' your music.

Lesson 3

If you don't mind speding cash, I endorse the use of itunes as you don't have to fear having your hard drive fried (This happened to me twice while using limewire).

Lesson 4

Purchase music according to what is listed as most purchased by other listeners.

Use the 'Genius' applicaton to source similar music.

Scan Top 100 and Essentials lists for hits and out of the way tracks you'd never otherwise hear.

Lesson 5

Remember: most new music today is wack.

However, with a little 'digging' around, you can find some nice tracks.

Yes: I hate paying $1.29 for music.

But since I practically own anything I wnt to hear already (I have, like 2000 songs in my itunes account alone with another 700 in windowsmedia), I don't mind.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Nay Holmgren.

Looking at his work from Seattle, is he really that much better than Cerrato?

Sort of like letting go of Jason Campbell for Byron Leftwich, not too much of a step up IMO.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"...how good of riot the winning city can put on."


BEST RIOT MOMENT:

Rodney King asking, "Can't we all get along?"

or

Truck driver getting brained by a couple of idiots hopig to improve their jacked up neighborhood by burning it to the ground?

Moe likes the Rodey King, "Can't we all just get along?" as it answers itself with a big fat, "Hell Naw!!!!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Holmgren's success with the Seahawks benefited from a weak division.

One thing I do give Mike, though, is that he can turn average teams into playoff contenders.

Posted by: Vicc | June 15, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"...still have my red Nats hat with the "W" they made me wear."

The Nats should trick their fans by showing up in Montreal Expos uniforms.

Do you think anyone would notice? YES.

From what I rememba, the Expos weren't that bad, they just couldn't draw at the gate, ndgave away talent like it was Halloween candy.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Lesson 2

Use 'alternative methods': i.e. limewire or whatever to 'procure' your music.

Lesson 3

If you don't mind speding cash, I endorse the use of itunes as you don't have to fear having your hard drive fried (This happened to me twice while using limewire).

Posted by: MistaMoe

Which version of Limewire do you use?

I use Limewire myself. Haven't had any problems downloading music. I'm sure you do, but if you aren't, you have to closely look at the file before downloading it.

Usually the suspect files are titled something like: File name and artist followed by "Greatest Hits" or "Best of 2008".

Of course sometimes you get one upon downloading, but my McAfee always squashes it as soon as it downloads.

Shout outs to Comcast for the free McAfee, about one of the few things that they get right.


I just added a torrent downloader/converter... Azue, I believe.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Lesson 2

Use 'alternative methods': i.e. limewire or whatever to 'procure' your music.

Lesson 3

If you don't mind speding cash, I endorse the use of itunes as you don't have to fear having your hard drive fried (This happened to me twice while using limewire)."

So behind on the times, Moe. Get yourself UTorrent, then search for torrents on isohunt.com. Easily the safest method of downloading, and you'll easily be able to find most things you're looking for.

Posted by: psps23 | June 15, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

is anybody excited when signed a bunch of our scrub draft picks? Genuinely excited?

These guys are no names and never-will-be's. Kinda like RedDMV.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | June 15, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I usually don't buy CDs anymore. My wife got it while she was at Target, plus my MP3 player sucks and I'm saving for a new one.

But your lessons are good. I work in radio so I usually hear the stuff I want and then go download it later. But sometimes I'll go ahead and buy the CD while I'm in the store simply because I'd rather just get it then go home and wait on downloads. My home PC currently sucks and I need it fixed, so CDs save me time/blood pressure points until I get it fixed.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 15, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"So they're playing a tournament called the "Confederation's Cup"? So who's presenting the trophy? Lee? Stonewall Jackson? Longstreet? Pickett? J.E.B. Stuart? Good ol' Jeff Davis?"

Hey, the current Confederation's Cup (as well as the upcoming World Cup) are being played in South Africa. 2006 was Germany/Austria, 2002 was South Korea/Japan. If there's one thing you have to admire about soccer, it's the cultural diversity it offers. Personally, I'm contemplating just going to South Africa in 2010, even without tickets to any matches. A month-long party in South Africa? How could I resist?

Posted by: psps23 | June 15, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm also afraid that RI regular, 4th Floor, is ruined. I believe he owned 9% of the company. He'll probably be up here soon trying to sell his BMW, his yacht, and his Gulfstream.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 13, 2009 5:53

Sad, but I did get season tickets for life (@6 Flags, not Redskins), as long as the park stays open, because I was able to get buyers @ $0.96 a share........

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 15, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"A month-long party in South Africa? How could I resist?" -psps23


They get it jumpin' in South Africa? Damn, who knew?
---------------------
One a side note, I think that a "never-will-be" is better than a "never was", such as TheTruth11.

Hey Truth, by calling me a "never-will-be" at least that means that at one point I had potential, unlike you. A "never was", wasn't never ever anything, like you.

A letdown you were the moment you slipped out of the womb. I should know. I was there shaking my head in displeasure, thinking "He can't be mine, he just can't be..."

How was summer school today? Promise me that you'll complete summer school ensuring that you you'll graduate HS... you better not have any of your little dirty a** friends in the house while I'm not there!

Yep, I be the pappy...

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Who has better inside sources on the Redskins -- Mike Florio or Jasno?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009 11:32 AM

Toss up. But I believe Florio has actual sources with in management, where JLa didn't.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 15, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Whose on top in the NFC East IMO?

The Skins. And I'm not saying that because I am a skins fan.

Giants - Manning has no proven WR and lost DWard and Plax. They will have to change their O's style of play.

Cowboys - T.O. meant alot to those dudes. He will sorely be missed. MB3 isn't as great without sharing touches. And the D had no upgrades. Brookings is older than LFB.

Eagles - D Coordinator battaling cancer (unfortunetly), Westbrook can't practice or get in shape in the offseason due to his ankle surgery. So, they will have to depend on a rookie. No more Dawkins. Disgrunteled CBs.

Why the skins will be atop - Consistency in the Offense (no new additions, save for Dock). Defense has beefed up. And Zorn has a full year under his belt.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 15, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Gotta agree, the 'skins should win the division per 4th's outline.

For the first time in a long time, there aren't any major adjstments to be made on offense.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

psps23

Thanks for the info.

I will apply to my 'procurement' efforts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Why the skins will be atop - Consistency in the Offense (no new additions, save for Dock). Defense has beefed up. And Zorn has a full year under his belt.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 15, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately the hole in that argument is that there offense was putrid for half the season last year. A lot of "ifs" with them this year. If they find a RT. If the Olineman stay healthy and are productive. If Kelly and Thomas make substantial contributions. If Portis can last the season healthy.....

Posted by: skinswest | June 15, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"Whose on top in the NFC East IMO?"


I love the redskins.

But I think the youngn's the iggles added (LeSean McCoy, J Maclin, C Ingraham) will allow the even more diversification on offense.

They upgraded their o-line and have a young receiver in DeSean Jackson who should be much better.

Moe's preseason Super Bowl:

Eagles v. Pats--McNabb's Revenge!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 15, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

All the Eagles young boys (LeSean McCoy, J Maclin, C Ingraham) are rookies, no reason to think that they will contribute anymore than the 'skins rookies from last year (Kelly, Thomas, Davis).

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

While I'm not sure I agree w/ 4th's conclusion, his analysis seems genuine.

Who would have thought after last season that WE'D be the ones in a pure 'build' mode while our co-divisionaires were in 're-build'??

Didn't they all leap frog over us on their way to the playoffs?

I wouldn't have schmidt-canned T.O. if I were the Girls this year. If you're not going to get anything for him, you may as well use him up. It's not like he was the reason for any of the trouble there... just a bell-weather of it.

Basically, you don't know how the teams are going to respond in their re-construction. Remember when we all thought the Girls loosing Parcells would have finished them? Didn't quite work that way, did it...

So, I can't predict 'Skins #1' (even thought we know they are..). But I am amazed at how the offseason has gone in our division.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 15, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Sure, sure,, it's June 15, what's the harm in high hopes?

So yeah, I can buy an argument that the Skins will win the NFC East this season. Why the hell not? It's June. I can buy just about anything at this point.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 15, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I can buy just about anything... as long as they take bonus points.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 15, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/15/AR2009061500350.html

A very awesome place.

The ruptures that happen every few years are spectacular. Below is a video of the ice bridge collapse -- I've never seen video of the 'dam burst'.

The view from above:

http://www.pbase.com/faerie_39/image/56924471

You can see how the glacier cuts the lake in two, acting as a dam. The right side of lake rises until the pressure creates the rupture. This pic was taken 1 month prior to a rupture.

The ice bridge collapse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLazY-5zxFQ


A little culture to start your week ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 15, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

has anyone seen my bonus points.....seem to have misplaced them.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 15, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

All the Eagles young boys (LeSean McCoy, J Maclin, C Ingraham) are rookies, no reason to think that they will contribute anymore than the 'skins rookies from last year (Kelly, Thomas, Davis).
Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 1:42 PM

I don’t know red, it won’t take much to surpass last year’s numbers from the big 3…..Mccoy could see some action if westbrok is dinged, and I think Maclin has a shot at the #2 0r 3 receiver. A Reid ain’t afraid to go with the guys he picked in the draft….Zorny seems a little reluctant to go with Vinny’s picks….

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 15, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Why the skins will be atop - Consistency in the Offense (no new additions, save for Dock). Defense has beefed up. And Zorn has a full year under his belt.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 15, 2009 1:20 PM

Might need a new RT. Didn't Jon Chansen head off to Mr. Mo'Town?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

My prediction: No one, outside this blog (except maybe Joe Theisman), will pick the 'Skins to win the NFC East.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

dl, good point. if Reid gives those guys a chance to actually play, they could provide more than Kelly, Thomas, and Davis.

the strength of every team in the NFC East seems to be defense. all have questions on offense, very few on defense if any at all.

i think our Redskins don't have any concerns on defense... maybe the SLB position, but not anything else.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me if this is repeat info, but I read on twitter via Peter King that PFT and NBC have inked an exclusive deal that means NBC will get exclusive licensing of PFT content. Crazy. Can't say they are not journalists or legit any longer. Hate/love Florio, you gotta give him props for taking a hobby to a very lucrative career.

Posted by: chrislarry | June 15, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

The Giants have the best offensive and defensive lines in the division; plus they have a veteran QB and a very good RB. They lost almost all their WRs, a very good tandem RB, and their defensive coordinator...

The Eagles rebuilt their offensive line, cut critical players in their defensive secondary, and might lose their defensive coordinator to cancer. They have a veteran QB and RB; with very young WRs.

The Cowboys are trying to move forward by subtraction. They cut their best WR and CB; then failed to replace them... They still have a veteran QB, RB, and TE, but their offensive line is getting old and their secondary is worst in the division.

The Skins have upgraded both lines; although they still have age/depth issues in critical positions. They have veterans in all the offensive skill positions. The wild card is discovering a starting RT and productive WRs.

The Skins have a legitimate shot to win the division as all the NFC East teams have question marks going into training camp...

Posted by: siris | June 15, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

The NFC East is up for grabs. The key will be beating the teams you are supposed to beat in the AFC West. Does the team that beats the Chargers win the division....?

I'd call the NFC East a "pick'em" situation. Which all things considered isn't a bad deal for the Skins.

Posted by: chrislarry | June 15, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

cL, the NFC East is more or less of a pick'em situation than it was, say, last season?

More or less of a pick'em situation than any other division?

It's so hard to predict what's going to happen year to year in this league, except that the Patriots will be the very embodiment of evil and that just the sight of the Cowboys uniform will make me angry.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | June 15, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Funny how one can dislike a sports team becasue they're good.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Seems like every year emerges a new wide reciever who's on the verge of pissing away his talent.

This year it's Brandon Marshall. If he didn't have a problem with putting his hands on women, I'd say go and get him.

If he were released.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 15, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"No one, outside this blog (except maybe Joe Theisman), will pick the 'Skins to win the NFC East.Posted by: talent_evaluator"

And rightly so. The Giants should be the favorite, with the Eagles second.

Which means less than nothing once the season starts, except maybe to Las Vegas oddsmakers.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 15, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Same here. But...my foggy old memory said it was the indecisive one, the one who honored his father by naming the stadium after him -- Junior.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 12, 2009

Who named the little town of RalJon partially after him and his deceased brother. Who's wife, Carrie Cooke, was remarried to Pete Rozelle. All now deceased. Except little Bro' of course.

Posted by: periculum | June 15, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Might need a new RT. Didn't Jon Chansen head off to Mr. Mo'Town?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 15, 2009

May need replacements for Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas as well. Both have both suffered what can be career threatening injuries. And then there isn't a backup center. Unless the other Williams can show.

Posted by: periculum | June 15, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2009 The Washington Post Company