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Wynn Looks Lean and Mean, Thanks to Strahan

Veteran defensive end Renaldo Wynn looked better ever at this minicamp. He has trimmed down considerably from his first stint here and looks cut and taut. He wasn't overweight before, but over the past year he has changed his approach to training.

Wynn, 34, was released by the Redskins before the 2007 season, and played that season with New Orleans before going to the New York Giants in 2008. The Giants have what most believe is the best defensive line in football, and Wynn said the changes he made with his technique and training have extended his career.

He hopes to share some of the tricks he learned with the Giants with his Redskins teammates, and is in line to battle Phillip Daniels for the starting spot at left end. Wynn said that Michael Strahan had the biggest impact on him, urging him to focus on quickness and to reduce to 270 pounds or so.

"I was 285-290 my whole career, and especially the last five years," Wynn said, "and Strahan said for me to get down. That's one thing I really concentrated on, and started doing last year, and it felt great. I wish I would have known this earlier, but everybody thinks bigger is better, and then you see a guy like [Giants end] Osi [Umenyiora] and he's 245, and you see how he's pushing guys around ... that are 300-plus like [Dallas tackle] Flozell [Adams] and [Redskins tackle] Chris Samuels, and Strahan, I didn't know he was 250.

"These guys, they work hard in the weight room and do a lot of explosive stuff, and on the field they run all day. And for me, man, it's definitely extended my career as far as age-wise, and not getting injuries. Strahan was like, 'When you get older, past 10 years in the league, man, you've got to work on that weight.' And it's helped me quite a bit."

By Jason La Canfora  |  May 3, 2009; 3:00 PM ET
 
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thats the FIRST i heard of Strahan being 250

Posted by: cosmiccatnip1 | May 3, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

furst

Posted by: davidpr16 | May 3, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

So... Orakpo is too big?

Posted by: noseman4681 | May 3, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

You beat me to it noseman

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 3, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

You beat me to it noseman

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 3, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

For those who thinks Orakpo is too small to be a DE, well read the post above, then read this:

1.Brian Orakpo 6'3 263 First round No 13 overall 2009 Draft.
2. Dexter Manley 6'3 253 Fifth round no 119 overall, 1981 Draft.

Dexter Manley Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Need more?
Dexter Keith Manley. Position: DE Height: 6-3 Weight: 253 lbs. Born: July 2, 1959 in Houston, TX College: Oklahoma State ...
www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/ManlDe00.htm - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
Fifth round no 119 overall, 1981


Posted by: abxinc | May 3, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

interesting....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 3, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

JLa always had a soft spot for Wynn.

Posted by: Gweez | May 3, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

It's a little hard to compare now to the 80s. Football players are bigger now than they were then, though it seems they've hit a plateau.

Posted by: skinfanman | May 3, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

To sum up Wynn's reflections:

Conditioned athletic defensive linemen v. roadgrater offensive linemen= athletic defensive linemen winnng most of the time.

You don't have to be big--just quicker and better conditioned than the other guy.

Increasingly, bulk on the defensive line is at the nose guard and tackle.

The ends are speedy and dominating at 260-275.

And that's why when they play an old offensive line like the one we feature, things sort of look like a jailbreak from time to time.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 3, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

p1fu:"With the drafting of Marko Mitchell, though, something has to give. Last year we only carried 5 WRs. This year we could carry as many as 7?"

Don't you think Marko is a practice squad guy?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 3, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse


Sure. Even so, if they don't cut Thrash that means 7 WRs.

Posted by: p1funk | May 3, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

On the O-line issue, is our current backup at left tackle Devin Clark??

Posted by: p1funk | May 3, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I think it's Stephon Heyer, actually. Clark is working to become the RG.

Posted by: TDawg1 | May 3, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse


The report said Heyer is currently penciled in as the No. 1 right tackle.

Posted by: p1funk | May 3, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Time to move on from Thrash.

ST roster spots need to be for guys who are developing. Thrash's days of being a productive receiver were over years ago. He provides no depth there - might as well give a rook some playing time. Maybe they can get open. Thrash can't anymore.

Posted by: edvar | May 3, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

They signed contracts for Training Camp. There's no guarantee either Washington or Hackett will make the 53 man roster.

Posted by: destewar | May 3, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I gotta agree with edvar and many others. It's time for Thrash to go.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 3, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Time to move on from Thrash.

Posted by: edvar | May 3, 2009 4:14 PM

I think the time to move on is when someone steps on the field and plays better than he does. Every year we expect it, and every year it doesn't happen. Maybe this year. But someone has to beat him -- not win just because he's younger.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 3, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"Time to move on from Thrash. ST roster spots need to be for guys who are developing. Thrash's days of being a productive receiver were over years ago. He provides no depth there - might as well give a rook some playing time. Maybe they can get open. Thrash can't anymore.Posted by: edva"\

Then make sure somebody tells Thrash, because he has a way of showing up at camp and winning the job outright. Like last season.

It's a dilemma: you want to tell your players that camp's an open competition, but guys like Thrash keep winning jobs. No upside, but they're really skilled football players.

Thrash is the Skins' version of Darius Songaila. The fans want him out of there in favor of some kid they've adopted. But he keeps showing them up.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 3, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little concerned w/ JLC's description of Renaldo.."CUT & TAUT"??? So if we are gonna add renaldo and Carter to the cheerleading calendar that would be great. Bottom line he was terribly avg when he was in his prime. If he stays healthy he should add some depth.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 3, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

""I was 285-290 my whole career, and especially the last five years," Wynn said, "and Strahan said for me to get down. That's one thing I really concentrated on, and started doing last year, and it felt great. I wish I would have known this earlier, but everybody thinks bigger is better, and then you see a guy like [Giants end] Osi [Umenyiora] and he's 245, and you see how he's pushing guys around ... that are 300-plus like [Dallas tackle] Flozell [Adams] and [Redskins tackle] Chris Samuels, and Strahan, I didn't know he was 250."

Interesting in light of all the pre-and post-draft talk about how so-and-so wasn't big enough to play end. Goes to show you how out of the touch fans can get with NFL reality. Partly that's because the NFL is such a hype factory. Fans want to think of linemen as giants. Like in wrestling, when the Hulkomania phenomenon first emerged, the Hulkster was billed as 7 feet tall. He's maybe six-six.

Pass-rushing from the outside is about being faster (or quicker) than the blocker. And strong enough to fight off the block.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 3, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Funny how you won't see any users who postulate Orakpo being too small for DE say anything.

Their stubborness means truth is inconsequential.

Usi Umenyiora is a great DE and he weighs 245.

Posted by: Vicc | May 3, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

If Orakpo fails at DE, it will not be because of his size!

Posted by: Vicc | May 3, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Ill informed people would say he is too light to play DE. There maybe 5 complete DE's that play the run & pass equally effective. Fact is you can run @ Usi all day long, problem is you have to deal w/ his speed on passing downs. You show me a pro bowl corner and I'll show you a D line that can get to the QB. Orakpo will play OLB on run downs and play DE on pass plays. This is a smart plan because it allows him to be on the field. He will get better @ stuffing the run when he gets reps, just like anyother young player.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 3, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Ill informed people would say he is too light to play DE. There maybe 5 complete DE's that play the run & pass equally effective. Fact is you can run @ Usi all day long, problem is you have to deal w/ his speed on passing downs. You show me a pro bowl corner and I'll show you a D line that can get to the QB. Orakpo will play OLB on run downs and play DE on pass plays. This is a smart plan because it allows him to be on the field. He will get better @ stuffing the run when he gets reps, just like anyother young player.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 3, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

On the O-line issue, is our current backup at left tackle Devin Clark??

Posted by: p1funk | May 3, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I think it's Stephon Heyer, actually. Clark is working to become the RG.

Posted by: TDawg1 | May 3, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The report said Heyer is currently penciled in as the No. 1 right tackle.

Posted by: p1funk | May 3, 2009 4:11 PM

Last year when Samuels went down Heyer stayed at RT and Geitner played LT, but next game they switched Heyer to LT. Then Geitner went to Washington and screwed up the bailout.

Posted by: skinfanman | May 3, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

From blog at Redskins.com

Fred Davis was an excellent practice player last season -- he's one of the best athletes on the team -- and he's continued that into this minicamp. Yesterday the only thing was stopping him from taking every pass he caught all the way downfield were his too-loose shorts falling down and tripping him up. Which, at least, shouldn't be a problem on gamedays.

Posted by: skinfanman | May 3, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"He has trimmed down considerably from his first stint here and looks cut and taut."

Still cant wrap my arms around JLC's description of Renaldo. I hoping with the next update he will tell us that Renaldo likes rainy days, 50 first dates is his fav movie, and he waits till after practice to dab on a lil sex panther cologne.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 3, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Lot of peeps up here been asking about Lorenzo Alexander. Jason Reid has a story for tomorrow's print edition. Pencil him in as the replacement for Demetric Evans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/02/AR2009050201943.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 3, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Lot of peeps up here been asking about Lorenzo Alexander. Jason Reid has a story for tomorrow's print edition. Pencil him in as the replacement for Demetric Evans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/02/AR2009050201943.html?hpid=topnews

Love Lo, he is another guy that JLC would probably say looks "cut & taut"...just dont draw up any plays where he has to shadow westbrook again or where he is tackle eligble for any reason other than to block on any goaline packages.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 3, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

p1fu:"With the drafting of Marko Mitchell, though, something has to give. Last year we only carried 5 WRs. This year we could carry as many as 7?"

Don't you think Marko is a practice squad guy?

Posted by: Samson151

I think everyone except Cooley and Moss are practice squad guys, based on talent.

Posted by: TheCork | May 3, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

This is quite the assemblage of halt and lame Dan and Vinny have been gathering this year.

Is Vinny assembling Redskin players or the cast for the next ??

Jeremy Bridges; Suspended for misbehavior.

Mike Williams: Ate way out of the league, signed because his wife is BFF with Dockery’s wife.

Cody Glenn: Suspended by own team, tweaky hammy.

Barnes, DB: Finished season in civvies with screw in shoulder blade. Too skinny DB can complement last year's choice, too short Tryon

Brian Orakpo: Has been hurt last two years with knee issues.

Chase Daniel: Two short for QB. Could be Wildcat except coach hates Wildcat.


Devin Frischknecht. Another receiver with the first name of Devin.

Posted by: TheCork | May 3, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Funny, people keep saying, "Thrash has to go." I don't disagree, but doesn't someone have to beat him out first?

We keep bringing wideouts to training camp every year, and Thrash keeps beating these underachievers out. What alternative is there?

Posted by: Alan4 | May 3, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Thrash is a "True Redskin". Ok he's not but he shouldn't have made the roster the last 3 yrs but he is like a cockroach that plays sp teams and knows how to run a route. I'm actually rooting for him to get cut this yr and some of the young guys to actually beat him out and then we'll know we have made progress. To be the man you have to beat the man and none of these knuckleheads we bring in via the draft or free agency can beat him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 3, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Are the Skins showing interest in Guard Brian Waters and Tackle Levi Jones ?

Posted by: friendofalobar | May 3, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

TheCork

'...This is quite the assemblage of halt and lame Dan and Vinny have been gathering this year...'

It sure is.

And you hope the team is trying to turnover the roster slowly by adding players to the edges with the idea of letting time shed bad contracts and older players.

1st QUESTION: If all the drafted guys and the free agents they've added to the roster make the team, what will the percentage of new players be?

2nd QUESTION: If there is some roster turnover, list the players who won't be redskins come Gameday in the Meadowlands next fall?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 3, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

2nd QUESTION: If there is some roster turnover, list the players who won't be redskins come Gameday in the Meadowlands next fall?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 3, 2009 6:35 PM

And we should base the list on what, Moe? It's not like we've seen any of the new guys in pads lining up against other third stringers. Wait, there is one just-signed guy who won't be on the team: Marcus Mason.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 3, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Mike Williams ate his way out of the league. Between injuries and lack of performance and work ethic he was released by the Bills. The weight gain is typical of NFL linemen when they are no longer playing.

The issue now isn't that he was a former #4 pick but if he's overcome the injury and work ethic issues. If not, then he's not going to be much help to the Skins.

As for Thrash I agree that somehow he keeps beating out the "other guy" whomever that is. Eventually that will end. The issue here is will it end due to the "other guy" being much much better than Thrash or simply because age caught up with him? The former is good news for the Skins. The latter is not.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | May 3, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Wynn could have Strahan sit down with Mike Williams and give him some pointers. At over four hundred pounds, Mike Williams is more of a landmark than a right tackle.

I hear the Redskins are thinking about selling advertising space on William's jersey: "Now starting at right tackle and sponsored by Goodyear - it's Mike Williams!"

Note to Jim Zorn: Don't place all of your hopes on a guy that has to lose the equivalent weight of an eighth grader just to get down to a weight where he can practice. You'd be better off betting that Malcolm Kelly can run a 4.4 forty. Oh wait a minute, you are betting on that, too, aren't you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 4, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Well, explain Andre Carter? He's 265 and chiseled! He apparently does not run a lot.

Posted by: oknow1 | May 5, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

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