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Renaldo Wynn on Washington Post Live

By Matthew Rennie  |  March 30, 2009; 9:40 PM ET
 
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what a FIRST rate interview

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 30, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm wondering if the Jints will be a good test for my emerging theory that the more picks you have, the greater number of misses you accumulate.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 30, 2009"

Yes, and the more picks you have, the more hits you'll get, too.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 30, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Rule of 51 $( 3,635)

Dead Cap $ 11,534
Rookie Pool $* 4,000*
Grand Total $119,455
Salary Cap $127,050
Cap Credits $ 1,427
Philip Daniels $ 500

Cap Room $ 4,522

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Dead Cap
(All figures in 000s)
19-Mar
Dead Bonus Money on 2009 Cap
WR Brandon Lloyd $5,333
CB Shawn Springs $2,483
LB Marcus Washington $2,020
OL Todd Wade $1,167
DE Phillip Daniels $314
S Vernon Fox $100
P Durant Brooks $87
TE Tyler Ecker $29


Total $ 11,534

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Another potential OLB replacement for MWash ...
size, strength and speed.

Convert from college DE to OLB

Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond 6-2⅜ 266 4.64 87

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

But the most revealing category were those quarterbacks who finished with a value of 0 or less. Every one of them failed as NFL quarterbacks. Take a look:

Scores of First-Round Quarterbacks, 1997-2008
Group I: Strong likelihood of success
Player School Draft year Score
Matt Leinart USC 2006 64.04
Philip Rivers NC State 2004 48.44
Tim Couch Kentucky 1999 47.64
Alex Smith Utah 2005 44.88
Aaron Rodgers California 2005 40.58
Peyton Manning Tennessee 1998 39.47
Jason Campbell Auburn 2005 38.75
Byron Leftwich Marshall 2003 36.39
Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) 2004 33.85
Chad Pennington Marshall 2000 33.53
Daunte Culpepper Central Florida 1999 30.00
David Carr Fresno State 2002 23.97
Joe Flacco Delaware 2008 23.92
Eli Manning Ole Miss 2004 23.14
Donovan McNabb Syracuse 1999 21.62
Group II: Hit-or-Miss
Player School Draft year Score
Brady Quinn Notre Dame 2007 18.93
JaMarcus Russell LSU 2007 18.64
Rex Grossman Florida 2003 18.39
Vince Young Texas 2006 18.21
Carson Palmer USC 2003 16.35
Matt Ryan Boston College 2008 9.14
Patrick Ramsey Tulane 2002 9.06
J.P. Losman Tulane 2004 7.86
Jay Cutler Vanderbilt 2006 2.39
Group III: Busts
Player School Draft year Score
Akili Smith Oregon 1999 0.00
Cade McNown UCLA 1999 -6.41
Joey Harrington Oregon 2002 -6.85
Michael Vick Virginia Tech 2001 -11.32
Ryan Leaf Washington St. 1998 -16.92
Jim Druckenmiller Virginia Tech 1997 -20.25
Kyle Boller California 2003 -50.67

Stafford scored a -4.45, putting him in unflattering surroundings to say the least. You never want to be on a list that includes Jim Druckenmiller and Akili Smith. Stafford's career completion percentage of 57.1 percent and his touchdown-interception ratio of 1.55 were primarily responsible for his poor showing. That left him rated well below USC quarterback Mark Sanchez and slightly behind Kansas State's Josh Freeman.

Scores for 2009 Likely First-Round Quarterbacks
Player School Score
Mark Sanchez USC 32.63
Josh Freeman Kansas State 1.94
Matthew Stafford Georgia -4.55

Stafford's numbers were dragged down by a freshman season in which Stafford completed 52.7 percent of his passes and threw 13 interceptions against seven touchdowns.

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

puff puff pass peri....

Posted by: toohoes | March 30, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

ESPN Research developed this formula to measure quarterbacks relative to a baseline completion percentage of 60 and a touchdown-interception ratio of 2.25. The multipliers allow each figure to have equal weight with career starts, which provides an important measure of experience.

The total score is the sum of the three adjusted figures.

The separate parameters for BCS and non-BCS quarterbacks help level the statistical playing field. They are based on the assumption that NFL-caliber quarterbacks playing against non-BCS opponents are going to have inflated numbers.

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

For BCS quarterbacks
(Career Starts x 0.5) + [(Career completion pct. - 60)x5] +[(Career touchdown-INT ratio - 2.25)x10]

For non-BCS quarterbacks
(Career Starts x 0.5) + [(Career completion pct. - 60)x2.5] + [(Career touchdown-INT Ratio - 2.25)x5]

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

"puff puff pass peri....

Posted by: toohoes | March 30, 2009"

Have fun. :) My pre-draft contribution from some experts ... done.

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line: Jason could be a elite ... Sanchez ranks below but then so did Donovan McNab and Eli Manning. Sanchez might just be a value pick at the end of the 1st beginning of the 2nd.

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

McShay thinks these guys will be available in the third round. There are guys there the Redskins could definitely use, who could end up starting in their first year.

Todd McShay's Top 15 Still Available

Player Position School
1. Jairus Byrd CB Oregon
2. Jared Cook TE South Carolina
3. Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
4. Duke Robinson G Oklahoma
5. Asher Allen CB Georgia
6. Eric Wood C Louisville
7. Cody Brown OLB Connecticut
8. Shonn Greene RB Iowa
9. Fili Moala DT USC
10. James Casey TE Rice
11. David Veikune DE Hawaii
12. Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin
13. Coye Francies CB San Jose State
14. Alex Magee DT Purdue
15. Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

periculum:

REDSKINS could do worse. BTW he has posted sub 4.5 times but is not yet consistant in that area. He has become faster in the past year. His combine times at U of R were a little slower than normal for some reason being in the 4.6 range. The coaches did not have any explanation for that anomaly.

JOSN VAUGHAN should merit a look see as a free-agent running back also. Too bad the 'SKINS didn't call on RICHMOND last year. ARIZONA picked off a great running back. VAUGHAN is more compact and heavier, but also more of a power runner and probably not good enough to make it as a starter. Special teams perhaps. 6'2" 235. Too bad he didn't convert early on to OLB.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 30, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Vital skill sets
Recognition skills/toughness
Rarely peeks in the backfield on play-action. Senses when the ball is in the air. Knows receiver's tendencies and how to attack them. Always in position when it counts. Confidence and "selective amnesia" are also important qualities.
Best in CB class: Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
Best in S class: Kevin Ellison, USC

Closing burst
Quickness and speed are premiums at corner. Upper-echelon DBs typically run the short shuttle in 4.20 seconds or faster, the three-cone drill in 7.1 or faster and the 40-yard dash in 4.49 or faster.
Best in CB class: Vontae Davis, Illinois
Best in S class: Louis Delmas, Western Michigan

Fluidity
Shows the fluid hips and the change-of-direction skills to mirror receivers one-on-one. Can stay with the double move and does not lose much time in transition when turning to run with receivers on vertical routes.
Best in CB class: Darius Butler, Connecticut
Best in S class: Delmas

Ball skills
Pursues plays aggressively and then uses soft hands to make plays on the ball when in position. Also shows the ability to time jumps well.
Best in CB class: Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest
Best in S class: Rashad Johnson, Alabama

Run support
Can both take on and disengage from blocks in space and slip blocks while maintaining outside leverage. Knows how to use his shoulders when matched up against bigger opponents. Best in CB class: Jenkins
Best in S class: Patrick Chung, Oregon

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

FROM the DANIELS article:

original_mark:

U-h-h, COY died this past season. Probably still could bring it however. Not a person to be trifled with. I have seen and conversed with him on numerous occasions during his playing days. He talked, asked questions, and I responded with "YES, sir" or "NO sir" whenever possible. Could be quite a surly personality. Traveled about with an entourage of body-building black-belts who took care of mouthy patrons. Was quite pleasant as long as you didn't toy with him. Good choice but unavailable I'm afraid.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 30, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Put TRYON on punt-returns. He's well experienced on the college level and was good at it. He is not DARRELL GREEN either in abilities or speed. REDSKINS fans will not like the results with him in the nickel or dime.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 30, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Okay...

From the Canadian Folly himself; the "ThinkingMan":

IDIOT's FICTION: "you can't say the team will be over a cap in a year you state will be uncapped (2010) in your reply and be taken remotely seriously."

Sure I can. The figures for 2010 just from the current contracts indicate that as per usual the Redskins will be over the cap. The release of any dead cap funds not withstanding ...
Plus I've read the sunset year salary cap rules and what could happen in 2010. Clearly you have not.

IDIOT FROM the BATF: "Fact: I NEVER mentioned getting rid of anyone for the 2009 season."

45 million in dead cap? You sure inferred it because that figure could only happen if they did get rid of people in 2009 because of the sunset clauses in the final year of the salary cap. Again you are an idiot who likes to post before reading hence "DUNCE MAN".

"DUNCE MAN": "I wrote my blog blurb at about an 8th grade level (which has been verified by the teacher I e-mailed it to after your reply, peri), not something that should have been that taxing. I'll write more simply in the future."

BUT You failed to READ before posting. Or failed to comprehend what you read. Either way you would fail an SRA reading skills exam.

PIN HEAD: "(you had no way of knowing) I am dyslexic, so any typos are well, part of the game."

I care about facts and reading comprehension. You failed in that regard. Time to go sit in the corner. Whereas I can provide facts to back up my statement about the salary cap situation in 2010.

PULP FICTION: "Contracts expire...expired contracts pay and cost...ZERO."

Not in 2010 because of the pro-rated guaranteed bonuses. Those don't die. And in 2010 they briefly become far more egregious than in 2009. The release fees go way up in 2010 for most of the players at the high end of the salary cap.

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

From the Canadian Folly himself; the "ThinkingMan":

MORE LUNACY: "Thought to consider: If you think the NFL will go for an uncapped year, you're a bold gambler, bolder than most. An uncapped year would likely result in a breakdown of talks between labor and management and the most likely way (judging by history) to attempt to place that genie back in the bottle is...a lockout."

I never said they would. In fact indications are seem they will get stricter until some agreement is made with the NFLPA. But it will no longer be a the "salary cap". It will be the NFL commissioner "forcing" teams to maintain control until a new agreement is reached.

MORE IDIOCY: "Can you honestly say you think the NFL would survive replacement football deux, or better yet a year's work stoppage in the current economy? [Though again from history, I like the team's SB chances in a strike shortened year...]."

Never said anything about this either. You seem to like creating fairy tales.

FICTION: "The player salary clearing I spoke of was in regards to 2010."

NO moron, because if you had read the salary cap figures you wouldn't have arrogantly posted your tripe.

FICTION: "Had you exercised the level of reading and comprehension you speak of, thereby implying you possess, [the user friendly formatted cute little mini cards and quizzes not withstanding] you would have gotten that from the initial read."

You lack research, sources, links. NO FACTS. ALL pencil headed conjecture.

NOW HE GETS SOMETHING: "This is in no way personal, merely for fun...but citing a tool created to improve the weak reading skill of Canadian Mounties and other assorted miscreants form the "Great White North" is nothing to crow aboot (from the Canadian) ;P~~~"

"Peace (but keep poking the bear)"

Bear? Beware the Killer Whale at this end. :)

Posted by: periculum | March 30, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

...or we could just cut our loses on Tryon and move on.

Posted by: edvar | March 30, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

So if we draft RT with #1, do you think the Skins will keep 4 OT's?

With Samuels and Jansen, you can't move them because of their contracts and I don't see them getting rid of Heyer.

Posted by: edvar | March 30, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

So if we draft RT with #1, do you think the Skins will keep 4 OT's?

With Samuels and Jansen, you can't move them because of their contracts and I don't see them getting rid of Heyer.

Posted by: edvar | March 30, 2009 11:39 PM

I would imagine they would move Jansen to guard probably cut him next year

Posted by: DG28 | March 30, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Considering that 2 of the OTs are over 30 and coming off injury-plagued years, I'd say the Skins need to keep 4 OTs.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 30, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

When I asked about moving Jansen to guard because he such a force at run blocking, there were some on this blog who felt he wasn't fast enough to pull and get out in front of plays.

Personally, I am intrigued with the idea...

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Yahoo's NFL just posted their MOCK:
(1st three rounds)

13. Washington Redskins: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
The Redskins need to find an offensive lineman at and add some much-needed youth to their O-line. Oher possesses all the physical tools to play left tackle at the next level, although his technique and instincts could force him to right tackle.

44. Miami (from Washington): Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
A big, physical wideout who knows how to move the chains and work the middle of the field.

80. Washington: Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
Adds youth to the interior of the Redskins’ offensive line.

(I think Urbik played tackle in college?)

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Yahoo's NFL just posted their MOCK:

Well...that sure would help the offense. Urbik looks impressive, but are they willing to give up on 3rd round pick Reinhart after one season? I find that difficult to believe considering their needs at LB.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

"Personally, I am intrigued with the idea...

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009"

Its the pass blocking that's at issue. He, like Derrick Dockery, had a terrible year in that regard. Run blocking was good to excellent at times.

Instead of guard he might strengthen the center position. I suspect there would be less lateral movement associated with pass blocking at center.
And hammering on DT's and nose tackles might be right up his alley.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Per -

Wasn't Jansen a center or B/U center before? Maybe college? I remember hearing that, but can't find data to back it up?

He's such a mauler, I just can't help but think there's still a use for him.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

"Well...that sure would help the offense. Urbik looks impressive, but are they willing to give up on 3rd round pick Reinhart after one season? I find that difficult to believe considering their needs at LB.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009"

Even with 2 picks for the OL (clearly they would prefer Andre Smith) given Samuel's, Thomas's, Jansen's, Heyer's, injury problems last year and the lack of a backup center for Rabach having THREE GUYS who can play both guard and tackle at a high level would be a great boon. TWO just won't be enough given the age and injuries of most of the starters. Dockery also needs a backup.

SO there would be plenty of room for Rhinehart were he to step up. Particularly if he endeavors to play guard and tackle.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

"He's such a mauler, I just can't help but think there's still a use for him.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009"

They do need a center. And a backup who can play the other positions as well would be extremely valuable. If he could stay reasonably healthy it could extend his career indefinitely. However, his problems with mobility in pass protection limit his ability to play guard and tackle.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

"find that difficult to believe considering their needs at LB.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009"

Given McIntosh's knee problems ... I suspect they need more than one. Blades makes a good ILB/MLB. Fincher seems okay. But Fletcher is not young anymore.

But they have 2 guys who could be converted to the OLB position. They have the ability to rush the passer; but they are weak against the run. That would be Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson. Look for them to draft a speedy, slightly smaller DE who is tough against the run to try to convert.
Then have all three convert together.

Leaving Buzzbee to work with Daniels and Wynn.

But I guess anything could happen.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Agreed.

Jansen claims to be in Pro Bowl form this year, so it will be interesting to see what he has left in the tank. He's so tough and proud, I hope he still has it. Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009 12:41 AM | Report abuse

"Agreed.

Jansen claims to be in Pro Bowl form this year, so it will be interesting to see what he has left in the tank. He's so tough and proud, I hope he still has it. Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009"

Jansen is pretty much there until 2011, so its pure pride that drives him ... which is a good thing. But he is no longer a starter at guard or tackle. He is, however, a much better than competent backup.

I am certain he could come in as a "tight end" in the 3 tight end running packages as well.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

With the signings of Daniels and Wynn -- I see the Skins draft needs being SLB, RT, backup WLB, backup C/G, and backup RG...

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm willing to give Jansen until the end of training camp to prove he's still a starter and he can pass block effectively again...

At the same time -- I'd also draft a RT in the 1st or 3rd round to throw in the mix with Jansen, Heyer, and Clark. That should amke for a good competition to determine the Skins starting and backup RT.

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Jansen could take on Albright's job, save us one salary there.

Or not

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 31, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

"With the signings of Daniels and Wynn -- I see the Skins draft needs being SLB, RT, backup WLB, backup C/G, and backup RG..."

Add shutdown corner, Smoot just doesn't cut it.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

"Jansen could take on Albright's job, save us one salary there.

Or not

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 31, 2009"

He's the long snapper. His salary isn't a big deal.

Now Rabach could be released, along with Thrash for significant cap savings.

Drafting extra OL and another WR makes sense from that vantage given the salary cap predicament.

It seems the scenario of trading down and/or picks next year to get more picks this year to fill in those holes all the more probable.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

I agree -- The Skins should bring in a veteran minimum free agent CB to compete with Tryon and Westbrook. Smoot is fine as a #3 CB, but I'm not sure about #4 and #5...

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Dumping Thrash would be a good idea as the special teams sucked last year, but no way you cut your only center and the play caller for the offensive line...

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009 1:30 AM | Report abuse

"Smoot is fine as a #3 CB, but I'm not sure about #4 and #5...

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009"

Smoot is not a #3. He is more of a #4, #5, or a safety. He can't cover.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Rabach looks like a target for release particularly if they were able to somehow bolster the OL with a center/guard or two. Plus could Jansen play the position? Because releasing him only has positive impact on the salary cap. His play was adequate but the offensive line sucked at least as bad as the special teams last year.

So, if you say that about Thrash, you have to say the same about a Rabach as you might about a Thomas.

Kendall actually had a good year, but he is gone?

Thomas was actually worst. As were Jensen and to some extent Heyer.

Rabach allowed the second most sacks of all centers.

Don't be surprised if Snyderato releases Rabach.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Periculum: 22
All others: 19

Periculum wins again. All others lose again.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 6:21 AM | Report abuse

Jansen is pretty much there until 2011, so its pure pride that drives him ... which is a good thing. But he is no longer a starter at guard or tackle. He is, however, a much better than competent backup.

I am certain he could come in as a "tight end" in the 3 tight end running packages as well.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:57 AM |

Wrong again Peri. Jansen will be cut next year at a 2.4mil cap savings.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 6:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm not saying they should do it, but it will be cheaper to cut Portis next year then have him play.

Cutting Raback next year would clear up nearly 3mil.

I love Fletcher but if he starts to fall apart this year, we can save another 3mil by cutting him next year.

Peri,

The cap will be fine next year there are plenty of moves to be made.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 6:33 AM | Report abuse

Rabach allowed the second most sacks of all centers.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:45 AM

Dude, you gotta stop using this...there is so much that goes into protecting the QB that it's near impossible to accurately assess who's to blame on any given sack. Sometimes the QB holds the ball too long, sometimes the RB whiffs on a block or blows an assignment...too many variables. O-linemen don't have stats to measure their production, so unless you sat down with Buges and he told you that Rabach sucks, I'll assume that he's a competent and decent option at center this year.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2009 6:45 AM | Report abuse

The cap will be fine next year there are plenty of moves to be made.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 6:33 AM

Next year is an uncapped year.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Next year is an uncapped year.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 8:02 AM |

Most likely, but not a sure thing yet.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I come on here, because I enjoy the back and forth, and I'm a big fan of the team. I'm not sure why periculum comes on here, I mean, read through some of his posts last night, and tell me WHO is he talking to??? Its like he's arguing with himself......

Anyway, Flound, how'd the team do this past weekend??

Lots of guys having good pro-days, lots of buzz about the draft. Its hopefully all going to work out for a trade back....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I am no expert but I give the NFL a 60% chance that next year the NFL will have a CBA in agreement.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Anyone hear about the show, "Bully Beat-Down" or something like that?? It was all over sports-talk radio this morning. Apparently, #82, none other than Michael Westbrook, put a H U R T I N G on some guy....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Most likely, but not a sure thing yet.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 8:08 AM |

Flounder, have you forgotten the old expression, "In life there are only three sure things: death, taxes, and the uncapped year"?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Greg,
Its on the Bog right now.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Anyway, Flound, how'd the team do this past weekend??

Lots of guys having good pro-days, lots of buzz about the draft. Its hopefully all going to work out for a trade back....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 8:21 AM |

The rain got us, but thanks for asking.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Westbrook is RIPPED.....he's only 36....what could have been....some serious anger issues with that guy.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Westbrook is RIPPED.....he's only 36....what could have been....some serious anger issues with that guy.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 8:40 AM

Yeah, if only he took out his frustration on opposing DBs instead of Stephen Davis he might still be a nice WR here...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

@ 36 I think he would be in his final year

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Yahoo's NFL just posted their MOCK:...

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 12:15 AM

Very fascinating mock! They have the #1 and #2 picks--and 50% of the top 6 picks--as OTs.... who knew that would be the new glamor position?

Posted by: Alan4 | March 31, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: torqued21 | March 31, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Michael Westbrook's Bully Beatdown video:

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/360540/vince-meets-guillotine.jhtml#id=1607964


Posted by: torqued21 | March 31, 2009 8:55 AM |

That guy he was fighting looked like a b!tch, he better not fight any quality guys or he will be the one choked out or worse.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Michael Westbrook, put a H U R T I N G on some guy....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 8:24 AM

He had already put serious hurtings on Norv Turner, Heath Shuler, and Redskins Nation.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Here's a funny writeup in The Post (although I do think the racial reference is uncalled for and unnecessary):
Michael Westbrook Beats Up Pudgy White Guy

Posted by: Alan4 | March 31, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

"Rabach allowed the second most sacks of all centers.Posted by: periculum"

I can't help thinking this is the same guy who insisted most left tackles were converted quarterbacks.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Casby did allow a few sacks however JJ allowed more in 5 less games.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

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