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Report: Redskins hire offensive-line coach from 49ers

The Redskins' most significant remaining staff opening is likely to be the job of offensive line coach, a position that will be filled by former San Francisco assistant Chris Foerster, according to an ESPN report.

Foerster would replace Joe Bugel, who retired last week after 32 NFL seasons. Foerster, 48, worked with the 49ers for two seasons, assuming the title of offensive line coach midway through the 2008 season, and was previously an offensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins during the 2004 season.

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan had two potentially attractive candidates to coach the offensive line with whom he was familiar. Alex Gibbs and Rick Dennison both coached under Shanahan during his 14 years in Denver, and both have received some credit for the Broncos' amazingly consistent running game.

Shanahan's staff is expected to be in Mobile, Ala., for next week's workouts before the Jan. 30 Senior Bowl, so it makes sense he would try to fill the final remaining openings before then.

Gibbs, though, was hired as the offensive line coach in Seattle, an important move for new coach Pete Carroll. Dennison got the offensive coordinator's job in Houston, the position vacated by Shanahan's son Kyle, the Redskins' new offensive coordinator.

Foerster also coached the offensive line and served as the assistant head coach with Baltimore from 2005-07. His other NFL experience comes with Minnesota (1993-95), Tampa Bay (1996-2001) and Indianapolis (2002-03). He has 26 years of experience in college coaching.

In other coaching news, former Tampa Bay receivers coach Richard Mann - a candidate for the same job in Washington - was let go by the Buccaneers; his contract was to expire at the end of the month. Shanahan has not yet hired his receivers coach.

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this conversation would be much better if people were listing potential free agents instead of draft scenarios. until we go through FA whats the point in discussing this?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse
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And spoil this exercise in stat fudging, opinion promoting, and character assassination with actual facts and figures? For shame!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

With the talk of not being able to run a 3-4 defense because of the LB corp., with gatewood being signed of pitts practice squad, a lot of people are forgetting that in addition to the draft, there is still a few good name UFA coming into this year. Karlos Dansby would be a great pick up to put in the middle of that LB corp next to Fletcher with C. Wilson, R. Mac, and ORakpo. That being said, I say to try and draft Okung with 4th pick if he is still available, pick up Colt McCoy in the 2nd or 3rd round ( for all of you who want Bradford, remember Colt's comp. percentage was over 70% this year, which will help in a WC style of offense), then with the later picks, pick up some OL depth, CB, maybe a NT or more LB depth.
Tender JC and let him spend the first year getting hit while the new O-line starts to come together and groom McCoy for the 2011 season

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 21, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

SO, if we look at history, I would say I was on the right side. BEcause last year also had more than 1 round. And other teams plucked starters from said later rounds.

Defense rest.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse
So Cushing would have replaced Orakpo. We still have a porous OL, still end up 4-12. Maybe with Oher, which is what I was calling for(or maneuvering to get ASmith, who was hurt this year), maybe we would have done better. And we would now have one less glaring hole to fix in OL.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:59 AM


But then we still have no one for SAM and TEs/WRs/RBs would have killed us like they did this year with OSackpo checking them.

Also, if you check out my last paragraph, there is more than one round. And starters were plucked from said later rounds on the offensive line.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

So is this guy good or not?

Posted by: REXskins | January 21, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I understand the 4-3 vs 3-4 issue, but the problem on our defense wasn't the front 7. The coaches will do what they want to do, but the 4-3 wasn't what was behind our defensive struggles.

The problem was the guys that Jerry Gray coached.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

bulaga? NFL. Com O line stats?

Did you hear Zorn got fired?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

So Cushing would have replaced Orakpo. We still have a porous OL, still end up 4-12. Maybe with Oher, which is what I was calling for(or maneuvering to get ASmith, who was hurt this year), maybe we would have done better. And we would now have one less glaring hole to fix in OL.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:59 AM


But then we still have no one for SAM and TEs/WRs/RBs would have killed us like they did this year with OSackpo checking them.

Also, if you check out my last paragraph, there is more than one round. And starters were plucked from said later rounds on the offensive line.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

If we had drafted Oher, we would have used CWilson and RJackson at lb. But we would have had better pass protection. Everything is a trade-off.

ANd yes, there are 7 rounds in the draft. But selectins in 2nd rd may start, but in later rounds it is really hit or miss. Rinehart was 3rd rd, may be starter after 2 years of development. After 2nd rd pick #37, we don't pick until 4th rd. Not likely to get an improvement over Heyer, Jones or Rinehart at that point.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

RI can we get some thoughts on this guy?

If you can't break the news can we hear about how he did with other teams or how their lines performed or what type blocking he likes?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Surprise! No QB in top 20, why are redskins
fans talking about picking a QB with pick 4?


Mock draft 1.0: Where's Tim Tebow? Not in this first round
Bucky Brooks By Bucky Brooks | NFL.com
Analyst

The NFL officially released the names of the draft eligible underclassmen, and the landscape of the 2010 draft is starting to take shape.


1. Rams Ndamukong Suh
Uncertainty at the quarterback position will force the Rams to consider Sam Bradford, but Suh is too talented to pass up.

2. Lions Russell Okung
The Lions desperately need a franchise-caliber offensive tackle to protect Matthew Stafford's blindside.

3. Buccaneers Gerald McCoy*

The Bucs haven't had a dominating interior player since Warren Sapp manned the middle.

4. Redskins Trent Williams
Chris Samuels' injury makes acquiring a top tackle a priority, and Williams' ability to play on either side makes him an intriguing prospect.

5. Chiefs Derrick Morgan*
A legitimate pass rusher on the edge would greatly improve a pass rush that ranked 31st in the league with just 22 sacks.

6. Seahawks Carlos Dunlap*
Pete Carroll's defensive background will compel him to grab an explosive edge rusher to lead the Seahawks' resurgence.

7. Browns Anthony Davis*
Mike Holmgren immediately looks to upgrade the team's offense by nabbing an athletic tackle to pair with Pro Bowler Joe Thomas.

8. Raiders Jason Pierre-Paul*
Al Davis' infatuation with speed and athleticism makes Pierre-Paul the ideal choice for the Silver and Black.

9. Bills Bruce Campbell
The Bills are in desperate need of a franchise QB, but their offensive line woes would make it tough for any signal-caller to survive or thrive in the pocket.

10. Jaguars Brian Price*
Jack Del Rio needs a bed rock in the middle to help his defense return to the ranks of the elite.

11. Broncos Rolando McClain*
A rugged interior defender in the center of the Broncos' 3-4 would allow D.J. Williams to act as a playmaker.

Posted by: abxinc | January 21, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I was calling for Oher until Orakpo suddenly became available, then I was down with drafting Orakpo. Although Danny skipping on down to pick his mancrush in the first couple seconds, rather than see if some team would give up an arm and a leg to trade up for Orakpo, was foolish.

(And for the record, I was also said that Oher was better than A. Smith, and that William Beatty was worth a look if we did manage a trade back.)

But the point that 4thFloor is skipping is that this was one pick in one draft. (I've heard on this very thread that there is more than one round in a draft?)

Somebody on this thread has been vocal about not using any high draft picks on O.L. the last two years, and that has been a failed strategy.

And for those of you saying "hey, we'll solve it by picking tackle with the next two", WHO are you going to pick? The fact is anyone who looks like they can step in and start at L.T. is going to be gone after the first round.

After that you have developmental picks/gambles, which we have run out of time to try.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 21, 2010 12:13 PM


Last year we needed a SAM more than we did OLine. If we had got Cushing instead AND had a competent HC, we would have still made the playoffs. I know that may sound crazy, but the HC didn't adapt/adjust. The OLine got too much of the blame last year. Yes. I said it.

Now, this year, our current needs are (if we resign the RT dude):

1. QB
2. LT
3. OLB
4. ILB
5. RB
6. RG

As you said, you were on board with the Osackpo pick. So me and you are on the SAME footing until this draft.

So, really, difference isn't THAT BIG to point out.

AND, there is a WHOLE SEVEN ROUNDS in the draft. With th 36/37th pick in the draft we can easily move up in the late 1st round if teams start to make a run on LTs.

I hope to not be picking in the top 5 for a while. So, while we are in the top 5, why not get a QB?

And in '08, people were screaming for a DE in the 1st round 'Up Here'. (I wasn't).....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

So is this guy good or not?

Posted by: REXskins | January 21, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

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Can't be too bad... Baltimore has always been able to run the ball even with a poor QB that couldn't spread the field like Flaco.

Posted by: tony325 | January 21, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The problem was the guys that Jerry Gray coached.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 12:40 PM

Exactly. 3-4, 4-3, it doesn't matter. It's the other "4" that need to play a lot better, which involves getting more talent and effective coaching.

Posted by: Section104 | January 21, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

From Mosley's blog

"I'm sure Kyle will have a huge say in game planning, but I'd be surprised if his dad wasn't the one making the calls in the game."

I'm pretty sure Shanahan got away from playcalling while in Denver as far back as when Kubiak was OC.

Also, was Alex Gibbs ever a real possibility as O-line coach. I thought he and Shanahan had a falling out in Denver. Could be wrong on that one but he was replaced by Dennison a few years ago.

Posted by: skinswest | January 21, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

RI can we get some thoughts on this guy?

If you can't break the news can we hear about how he did with other teams or how their lines performed or what type blocking he likes?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse
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For what it's worth, the lines produced a 1,000 yard rusher 4 years straight. That's probably not that impressive, even with the QB situation, because they have been playing in the Pac-10 out there.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

How can this guy have 26 years college coaching experience plus 14 years pro coaching experience when he is only 48 years old? Either he is a prodigy or JReid is a moron. I vote the latter.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 21, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

switching to a 3-4 seems to create MORE needs, that's one thing we're stocked up on.

Another thing we already have is an undersized unproven QB named Colt

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

How can this guy have 26 years college coaching experience plus 14 years pro coaching experience when he is only 48 years old? Either he is a prodigy or JReid is a moron. I vote the latter.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 21, 2010 12:48 PM

Times are tough. Some guys gotta work two jobs?

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: abxinc | January 21, 2010 12:44 PM |

Who the hell made Bucky Brooks an expert, any one of us can make a mock draft website and act like we know what were talking about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

child prodigy coach, looks like 37 yrs of exp

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

In 2004 he took a year off to travel after graduating high school.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

And Bucky is a former scout...

...I guess he was assigned by his booses to do the 'Outside the Box' thing on some of his picks so he can get more page views and hits.

Nothing stirs up an internet page like a good ol argument...RI can def attest to that...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

PanteraCFH = Best name on here!

Posted by: FedorEm | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

PanteraCFH = Best name on here!

Posted by: FedorEm | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought...

What do you guys think about a guy like John Skelton (QB Fordham) as a second day pick? (4th round)

The guy is 6-5 240, has a rocket for an arm. Can throw moving left or right, and has a really cool name. Besides, as a 4th rounder, he'll have a year or two to develop while JC 17 makes his final case for himself.

As a Senior he had a 61% completion percentage for 2,600 yards 15 TD's and 7 INT's.

Perhaps an option...

Posted by: edvar | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"It's the other "4" that need to play a lot better, which involves getting more talent and effective coaching."

You don't need to draft a safety, but you gotta dump Landry.

Also, Hall is a fine player. He just needs to want to tackle better. Deion Sanders was the same way and everyone creamed over him.

Personally I like Carlos Rogers. Can't catch worth a hoot but he can cover and hit like a ton of bricks. Maybe they can find him some sticky gloves or something. :P

They have so many other needs right now. I think they have a capable DB-field.

You gotta remember, Blache's schemes SUCKED. Those zone shcemes were horrid and the players succeeded despite what he called IMHO.

Give someone else a chance and if they blow it then you go find someone when they come back from lockout.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 21, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

since everyone insists on talking draft....
how did okung handle orakpo? anyone know?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

...and act like we know what were talking about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 12:53 PM

Already happening...

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

since everyone insists on talking draft....
how did okung handle orakpo? anyone know?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:59 PM

You can't talk Free agency yet because it all depends on having a caped year or not.

If it is a caped year then there will be a ton of UFA, if not there will be very few.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

flounder

if you really think there will be a cap then you are alone

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth, the lines produced a 1,000 yard rusher 4 years straight. That's probably not that impressive, even with the QB situation, because they have been playing in the Pac-10 out there.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

yea I don't think you can take away too much from what happens in the NFC west.

I'm interested if he prefers power blocking or zone scheme. I think that will have a big impact on who stays and who gets drafted.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

not sure why but, for some reason I wanted to put on latex gloves after reading ...

"how did okung handle orakpo"

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since everyone insists on talking draft....
how did okung handle orakpo? anyone know?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:59 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

If it is a caped year then there will be a ton of UFA, if not there will be very few.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:03 PM

Caped year? The Year of Superman?

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. If it's a capped year, we can't afford anyone. If it's uncapped, we got plenty of money but no one to take it.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Another head scratcher. I was hoping they were waiting for the o-line coach of the Saints to be free of the playoffs, but I guess they were just negotiating with this guy. Still, it is good to have the o-line coach on the staff before some of the real scouting begins and this guy has done a solid - if not spectacular - job wherever he has gone.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Does new OL coach know zone blocking scheme? and will skins run it?

Posted by: jm22d56 | January 21, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

since everyone insists on talking draft....
how did okung handle orakpo? anyone know?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:59 PM
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With a hand on each shoulder?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm interested if he prefers power blocking or zone scheme. I think that will have a big impact on who stays and who gets drafted.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 1:06 PM |

I've said this before (especiallyin connection with Blache, Grey, and Jackson) and I'll say it again. It sounds like a lot of people are completely clueless as to coaching heirarchy. Head coach and coordinators set the scheme ie. 3-4 or 4-3. Position coaches are there to teach the players the schemes that the Head Coach and coordinator come up with. It does not matter if the line coach prefers a zone or man or power blocking scheme. They are not the one who gets to choose what is used. The only reason it would matter is level of expertise in teaching those schemes. Bugel taught both zone and man. Understand that and you can stop asking these pointless questions. (this is all assuming you were asking about the new oline coach)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Bush v. Harvin

I'm kinda sorta on quiet about draftees as I'm awaiting the Senior Bowl where you can see them practice.

Bush v. Harvin

Plus, the weather's improved so maybe I'll replace the frost-bitten flowers I put down around Christmas time.

Bush v. Harvin

I'd say something about the new line coach, but there's a really interesting competition happening this Sunday.

It's Bush v. Harvin: Battle of the Field Flippers

Folks mocked the notion of the skins needing a dynamic offensive speed player who can alter the game with a catch and run or outstanding draw/screen run play.

But the NFC's two final contestants both feature such players.

So stop laughing and grab a stop watch.

Yes we know the skins must address specific and glaring needs via the draft.

The unspoken need is for the team to also find a player who can make up for bad offense by being bad to a defense all by himself.

Antawn Randle El was supposed to be that player, but failed.

S Moss still has it in him to be dynamic, but a 30, he's not a long term solution to a long term problem: the skins are a slow team.

4.3 speed D Thomas?: yes, no, maybe, maybe not.

So we return to Bush v. Harvin and wonder whose return/speed play will change the NFC Championship game.

My money is on Harvin to win, but it's all right if the Vikes get smoked by Bush.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

a caped year sounds...like...super....man.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

BWAHAHA! Jason Reid writes that he has "26 years" of experience coaching in college, but he's only 48, and has 15 years of NFL experience too? Nice math skills, bozo. Amazing what counts for journalism these days.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | January 21, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Does new OL coach know zone blocking scheme? and will skins run it?

Posted by: jm22d56 | January 21, 2010 1:09 PM |

That is a much better question. Does he know it?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

flounder

if you really think there will be a cap then you are alone

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 1:06 PM |

Well then list the FA's that will be available in a non capped year, and we can discuss.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Barry Svrluga seems a bit confused.

He tells us that Foerster is 48 and that he worked for the 49ers for the last 2 years and for the Dolphins in 2004. Then, he says that "Foerster also coached the offensive line and served as the assistant head coach with Baltimore from 2005-07. His other NFL experience comes with Minnesota (1993-95), Tampa Bay (1996-2001) and Indianapolis (2002-03). He has 26 years of experience in college coaching."

I count 17 years in the NFL and 26 years in college coaching; that's 43 years... and he's 48 years old? Do you read your own writing? If not, why should anyone else?

Posted by: chris_zz | January 21, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I count 17 years in the NFL and 26 years in college coaching; that's 43 years... and he's 48 years old? Do you read your own writing? If not, why should anyone else?

Posted by: chris_zz | January 21, 2010 1:17 PM

do you read anyone else's comments? Because you just repeated what multiple people have already stated.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

IF IF IF IF there is a player lock out for all(?)of 2011. Then we have the 2010 1) FA period, (2) DRAFT (3) season. Followed by 2011 (1) FA? (2) DRAFT (3) LOCKOUT. So help me here, the 2011 draft class sets during the lock out along with everyone else? Then we start the 2012 process. So the 2010 draft class plays one year and sits out a season. The 2011 class sits it's first would be season, and the 2012 class is back to "the new normal". IF all that is true then perhaps A&S might not be in such a hurry to solve all the problems with 2010 draft class and actually start looking ahead at players who would be eligible for the 2011 & 2012 draft for starting positions, franchise types etc. Timing here could be very interesting.

Posted by: Keyskonnection | January 21, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought...

What do you guys think about a guy like John Skelton (QB Fordham) as a second day pick? (4th round)

The guy is 6-5 240, has a rocket for an arm. Can throw moving left or right, and has a really cool name. Besides, as a 4th rounder, he'll have a year or two to develop while JC 17 makes his final case for himself.

As a Senior he had a 61% completion percentage for 2,600 yards 15 TD's and 7 INT's.

Perhaps an option...

Posted by: edvar | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM
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I think it's real hard to evaluate guys from these small schools that do not play against many talented schools. He plays in the East-West Shrine game and I think this will give everyone a better idea. He's big for a QB, but he's not going to wow anyone with his mobility. I think Washington will take a shot at some QB in the lower rounds. Isn't fourth round a little high for this guy?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I can't say too much about the 49ers OL coach ... didn't watch them that much this year, even if I do live out this way.

SF was a run first team, their QBs were pretty erratic. Gore is a very good RB, but is injured a lot. The SF run game was decent.

Singletary wanted a run first, smash mouth offense. So I'd assume when he hired Foerster, he saw him as a guy who knew how to coach an OL in smash mouth football.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

RI can we get some thoughts on this guy?

If you can't break the news can we hear about how he did with other teams or how their lines performed or what type blocking he likes?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8

I'm afraid the WaPo is so concerned with being PC, that they filter any and all stories ad nauseum which means they'll alway be last to report anything. Being too PC is one of the things ruining this Nation IMO.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 21, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I've said this before (especiallyin connection with Blache, Grey, and Jackson) and I'll say it again. It sounds like a lot of people are completely clueless as to coaching heirarchy. Head coach and coordinators set the scheme ie. 3-4 or 4-3. Position coaches are there to teach the players the schemes that the Head Coach and coordinator come up with. It does not matter if the line coach prefers a zone or man or power blocking scheme. They are not the one who gets to choose what is used. The only reason it would matter is level of expertise in teaching those schemes. Bugel taught both zone and man. Understand that and you can stop asking these pointless questions. (this is all assuming you were asking about the new oline coach)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I understand that the HC chooses the scheme.

Prefer may have been wrong choice of words. I'm interested in what kind of experience he has and how lines he coached performed.

So, I think it's relevant to ask what type of blocking scheme he has coached and how the lines he's coached performed.

No need for such a F'ng long rant about how football works.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Well then list the FA's that will be available in a non capped year, and we can discuss.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

i was thinking maybe the guy that writes this blog could do that...

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

From Wikipedia.org

Chris Foerster is currently the offensive line coach for the San Francisco 49ers. He was the offensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins in 2004.[1]

Foerster was hired by the San Francisco 49ers on February 15, 2008 as the co-offensive line coach. He assumed the title of offensive line coach in week 8 of the 2008 season.

Prior to joining the 49ers, Foerster spent three years (2005-07) as the offensive line coach and assistant head coach for the Baltimore Ravens. Foerster has also served as the offensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins (2004), tight ends coach for the Indianapolis Colts (2002-03), offensive line coach for the Tampa Buccaneers (1996-2001) and assistant offensive line/tight ends coach for the Minnesota Vikings (1993-95).

With a total of 26 years coaching experience, Foerster also made an impact in the collegiate ranks, serving as the offensive line coach for the University of Minnesota (1992), assistant offensive line/special teams coach for Stanford (1988-91) and offensive line coach for Colorado State (1983-87). He began his coaching career in 1982 as a graduate assistant at Colorado State after a successful career with the Rams as a center from 1979-82. Foerster originally joined the Rams football team as a walk-on before earning a scholarship as a sophomore.

Foerster was born on October 12, 1961 in Milwaukee, WI. His wife and three children reside in St. Petersburg, Florida.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought...

What do you guys think about a guy like John Skelton (QB Fordham) as a second day pick? (4th round)

The guy is 6-5 240, has a rocket for an arm. Can throw moving left or right, and has a really cool name. Besides, as a 4th rounder, he'll have a year or two to develop while JC 17 makes his final case for himself.

As a Senior he had a 61% completion percentage for 2,600 yards 15 TD's and 7 INT's.

Perhaps an option...

Posted by: edvar | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM

We discussed him a month or so ago. The skins sent scouts to see him last spring and a lot of eyes will be on him at the combine and his pro day. I like him in the 4th-5th range.

As far as Bulaga...A few of us have been talking about him for MONTHS.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

i was thinking maybe the guy that writes this blog could do that...

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 1:22 PM |

HA HA HA HA HA you kill me!!!!!!!

You have a better chance of watching TV tonight with God, then you do of JR listing all the UFA in an uncapped year on this page.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

BRADFORD...BRADFORD..BRADFORD..BRADFORD...BRADFORD..BRADFORD..BRADFORD...BRADFORD..BRADFORD..

GOODBYE CAMPBELL...

Posted by: taylormade218 | January 21, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I understand that the HC chooses the scheme.

Prefer may have been wrong choice of words. I'm interested in what kind of experience he has and how lines he coached performed.

So, I think it's relevant to ask what type of blocking scheme he has coached and how the lines he's coached performed.

No need for such a F'ng long rant about how football works.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 1:22 PM |
Your full of sh!t. You specifically asked about what effect his preference would make on drafting. If he had a say in the scheme it might have some effect, but since he doesn't, it won't. So pockets, excuse the f out of me for explaining something that about 20 people on here don't seem to have a grasp of. If you have a question then ask it and make it clear. Asking what scheme he was experienced in would have gotten across what you were claiming to really be asking. What you asked was assinine. Who gives a sh!t what he prefers. Just coach what you were hired to coach. It was a pretty straight forward explanation of how coaching works. It took that many sentences to explain it. Not like this one where I will just keep rambling on and on to annoy you. I hope it's working but I doubt you have read this far because I'm sure your attention span is that of a gnat. So, if this rant isn't long enough for you I can certainly put together one that is much less appropriate for the ears of the young. (or eyes)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought...

What do you guys think about a guy like John Skelton (QB Fordham) as a second day pick? (4th round)

The guy is 6-5 240, has a rocket for an arm. Can throw moving left or right, and has a really cool name. Besides, as a 4th rounder, he'll have a year or two to develop while JC 17 makes his final case for himself.

As a Senior he had a 61% completion percentage for 2,600 yards 15 TD's and 7 INT's.

Perhaps an option...

Posted by: edvar | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM

FYI. I made it a point to follow how this guy progressed during the offseason. He's participating in the East_West Shrine game this weekend. During the first three practices he's struggled with footwork and accuracy. He's hurting his draft value. It's still early and maybe he's a gamer.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Who the hell made Bucky Brooks an expert, any one of us can make a mock draft website and act like we know what were talking about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 12:53 PM

The point is , at the least, he knows better than every GM on this blog.

Posted by: abxinc | January 21, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Here you go UFA's in an uncapped year, don't forget each team will get an extra Franshise tag to use.

Buffalo Bills

DE Ryan Denney, OLB Chris Draft, S Todd Johnson, OG Seth McKinney, WR Terrell Owens, WR Josh Reed, S-LB Bryan Scott.

Miami Dolphins

DT Jason Ferguson, CB Nathan Jones, TE David Martin, QB Chad Pennington, OLB Jason Taylor.

New England Patriots

OLB Tully Banta-Cain, CB Leigh Bodden, DE Derrick Burgess, RB Kevin Faulk, DE Jarvis Green, P Chris Hanson, OG Stephen Neal, OLB Junior Seau, TE Ben Watson, DT Vince Wilfork.

New York Jets

DE Marques Douglas, PK Jay Feely, ILB Ryan Fowler, TE Ben Hartsock, ILB Larry Izzo, FB Tony Richardson.

Baltimore Ravens

DT Justin Bannan, DT Dwan Edwards, WR Derrick Mason, TE L.J. Smith, WR David Tyree, CB Frank Walker, WR Kelley Washington.

Cincinnati Bengals

PK Shayne Graham, DT Tank Johnson, FB Jeremi Johnson, TE Reggie Kelly, OG Scott Kooistra, OG Bobbie Williams, S Roy Williams.

Cleveland Browns

WR Mike Furrey, TE Michael Gaines, OG Rex Hadnot, CB Hank Poteat, OT Ryan Tucker.

Pittsburgh Steelers

QB Charlie Batch, S Tyrone Carter, S Ryan Clark, DE Nick Eason, NT Casey Hampton, DE Travis Kirschke, WR Shaun McDonald, RB Willie Parker, CB Keiwan Ratliff, PK Jeff Reed, CB DeShea Townsend.

Houston Texans

RB Chris Brown, ILB Khary Campbell, S Nick Ferguson, QB Rex Grossman, OG Chester Pitts, OG Tutan Reyes, CB Dunta Robinson, OLB Chaun Thompson, P Matt Turk, WR Kevin Walter, DT Jeff Zgonina.

Indianapolis Colts

ILB Gary Brackett, PK Matt Stover.

Jacksonville Jaguars

OG Kynan Forney, DE Reggie Hayward, S Brian Russell.

Tennessee Titans

OG Eugene Amano, OLB Keith Bulluck, TE Alge Crumpler, CB Nick Harper, P Craig Hentrich, CB Rod Hood, S Kevin Kaesviharn, DE Jevon Kearse, C Kevin Mawae, S Donnie Nickey, DE Kyle Vanden Bosch.

Denver Broncos

P Mitch Berger, OT Brandon Gorin, OLB Nick Greisen, OG Ben Hamilton, OG Ross Hochstein, CB Ty Law, WR Brandon Lloyd.

Kansas City Chiefs

S Mike Brown, WR Chris Chambers, WR Terrance Copper, TE Sean Ryan, DT Kenny Smith, OT Wade Smith, OLB Mike Vrabel, WR Bobby Wade.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I would think that the first pick of the draft with having as high of a pick as we do, I see putting it towards an elite LT for years to come. People still using the Samuels might come back excuse, if he does decide to come back, maybe he can move to the right side of the line to help extend his career for a few more seasons. If you look at cutler, yes he was a shanny pick, but in the mid round of the 1st. I think if shanny has that much faith in one these kids, he might move back into the 1st round and get them. I think bradford might slip because of his shoulder being RECONSTRUCTED, but Clausen might meet the same fate as the last ND QB to come out, the late Brady Quinn......

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 21, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Continued:

Oakland Raiders

OT Cornell Green, PK Sebastian Janikowski, DE Richard Seymour, OT Langston Walker, OLB Sam Williams.

San Diego Chargers

DT Alfonso Boone, TE Brandon Manumaleuna, C Dennis Norman, WR Kassim Osgood, DT Ian Scott, TE Kris Wilson.

Dallas Cowboys

OG Montrae Holland, CB Allen Rossum.

New York Giants

QB David Carr, OLB Danny Clark, P Jeff Feagles, DT Fred Robbins.

Philadelphia Eagles

DE Jason Babin, S Sean Jones, ILB Jeremiah Trotter, OLB Tracey White.

Washington Redskins

DE Phillip Daniels, OT Levi Jones, P Hunter Smith, OT Mike Williams, DE Renaldo Wynn, TE Todd Yoder.

Chicago Bears

OLB Darrell McClover, DE Adewale Ogunleye, RB Adrian Peterson, OLB Pisa Tinoisamoa.

Detroit Lions

ILB Vinny Ciurciu, OT Damion Cook, QB Daunte Culpepper, CB DeMarcus Faggins, ILB Larry Foote, TE Will Heller, CB Anthony Henry, CB Will James, OT Jon Jansen, S Marquand Manuel, OT Ephraim Salaam, FB Terrelle Smith.

Green Bay Packers

OLB Brandon Chillar, OT Chad Clifton, RB Ahman Green, OLB Aaron Kampman, DT Ryan Pickett, OT Mark Tauscher.

Minnesota Vikings

OG Artis Hicks, DT Jimmy Kennedy, WR Greg Lewis, CB Benny Sapp, RB Chester Taylor.

Atlanta Falcons

WR Marty Booker, WR Brian Finneran, ILB Tony Gilbert, RB Verron Haynes, QB Chris Redman, CB Brian Williams.

Carolina Panthers

DE Tyler Brayton, QB A.J. Feeley, QB Josh McCown, WR Muhsin Muhammad, DE Julius Peppers, DT Hollis Thomas, OG Keydrick Vincent, CB Dante Wesley.

New Orleans Saints

QB Mark Brunell, TE Dan Campbell, PK John Carney, DT Kendrick Clancy, TE Darnell Dinkins, OLB Scott Fujita, C Nick Leckey, CB Chris McAlister, TE Billy Miller, S Pierson Prioleau, S Darren Sharper.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

OOooh Brunell's gonna be a UFA. Can we? Can we?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Chester Taylor!

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Chris Foerster and Shanahan crossed paths in Denver's 2003 Wildcard loss to the Colts.. Foerster was the Colts asst coach in 02 and 03..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"Chester Taylor!"

Wasn't this guy a president back in the day?

If he can play right guard, I say, "Sign'em up!"

You're never too old to block.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Your full of sh!t. You specifically asked about what effect his preference would make on drafting. If he had a say in the scheme it might have some effect, but since he doesn't, it won't. So pockets, excuse the f out of me for explaining something that about 20 people on here don't seem to have a grasp of. If you have a question then ask it and make it clear. Asking what scheme he was experienced in would have gotten across what you were claiming to really be asking. What you asked was assinine. Who gives a sh!t what he prefers. Just coach what you were hired to coach. It was a pretty straight forward explanation of how coaching works. It took that many sentences to explain it. Not like this one where I will just keep rambling on and on to annoy you. I hope it's working but I doubt you have read this far because I'm sure your attention span is that of a gnat. So, if this rant isn't long enough for you I can certainly put together one that is much less appropriate for the ears of the young. (or eyes)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Arguing wording. UFB

Did you ever stop to think that what type of line he is more experienced at/better at coaching could be an indication of what Shannahan plans to do offensively?

I know Shanny's well known for zone blocking, but if his line coach is a great power blocking coach it could be an indication of the thinking.

again preference wrong word. my fault.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

If it is a caped year then there will be a ton of UFA, if not there will be very few.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 1:03 PM

And we can reunite him with Brandon Lloyd. That duo was widely feared around the league. Okay, narrowly feared. Only one city: Washington.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I think it's real hard to evaluate guys from these small schools that do not play against many talented schools.

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Not its not. Just look for the drunk guy who trying to get into a closed pizza parlor at 3am.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"Chester Taylor!"

Wasn't this guy a president back in the day?

If he can play right guard, I say, "Sign'em up!"

You're never too old to block.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 1:44 PM

That was Zachary Taylor the 12th President of the US.

The guy I want to replace CP is Chester Taylor. Cut CP, sign Taylor.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

We should only sign guys to be redskins with the last names of presidents.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 21, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Not arguing wording. Go back and read what you originally wrote, then read my last book. Why would a mans preference, who has no part in what system the team runs, matter to draft picks unless you thought that he came up with the scheme?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I think it's real hard to evaluate guys from these small schools that do not play against many talented schools.

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Not its not. Just look for the drunk guy who trying to get into a closed pizza parlor at 3am.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 1:48 PM

HA!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

did Rhino ever get his pizza?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I like the addition of Chris Foerster. He coached the line that has been opening holes for Frank Gore the past two seasons.

Shaping up pretty nicely.

Posted by: ChrisWoody | January 21, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

We should only sign guys to be redskins with the last names of presidents.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 21, 2010 1:49 PM

How about 1st names too? Skins could use a "Grover" on the roster.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 21, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

How about 1st names too? Skins could use a "Grover" on the roster.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 21, 2010 1:53 PM

Didn't he already sign with the Muppets? Would he be a UFA in an uncapped year?

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

IF IF IF IF there is a player lock out for all(?)of 2011.....

Posted by: Keyskonnection | January 21, 2010 1:20 PM

Keys, the 2011 draftees will not be members of the NFLPA so they won't be locked out. If there is no new contract in a reasonable timeframe the NFL will start some sort of a season with replacement players as they did before and those draftees can take part.

Posted by: geotherm21 | January 21, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Megan Fox's thumb is beautiful and it's what sets her apart from the rest of the vapid hollywood skanks.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's time in DC may be remembered forever....

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Is The Intel Chief Being Zorned?

Making the rounds among the ranks of the "formers" -- that is, former senior intelligence officials who are now free to discuss the politics of the intelligence community, is a new verb. To Zorn, as in to render ineffective but to retain a subordinate. The context, for those who don't live in Washington, was the decision by the poohbahs at the Washington Redskins to temporarily retain head coach Jim Zorn but give play-calling abilities to someone else, effectively neutering his authority and credibility.

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2010/01/is_the_intel_chief_being_zorned.php

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

a hidden gem from RI ... It's like all they know is Okung ....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:20 AM

Oh please, your majesty. Get over yourself. First on Bulaga? HA! Nobody talks about anybody else? A few weeks back, the place was in love with Ciron Black. I myself like the guy from Rutgers (who keeps making me forget his name).

Anyway, other than Haslett (NO & StL), have ANY of these new coaching hires come from NFC teams? Are the Skins just getting an injection of AFC? I don't think they can piss test for that.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Da mn Scampbell, I wish you wouldn't beat around the bush. Just tell us what you really think. lol

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 21, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

How can this guy have 26 years college coaching experience plus 14 years pro coaching experience when he is only 48 years old? Either he is a prodigy or JReid is a moron. I vote the latter.

Posted by: tramellcanady | January 21, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

That should probably read "26 years of experience in college AND PRO coaching." Which, of course, doesn't address the issue of why RI is always scooped by the national media on things like this. I get it that Snyder is probably still p.o'ed at the Post over past issues, but can't you guys develop some reliable sources within the organization?

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 21, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Not arguing wording. Go back and read what you originally wrote, then read my last book. Why would a mans preference, who has no part in what system the team runs, matter to draft picks unless you thought that he came up with the scheme?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Read every response to you after that.

Preference was the wrong word. More experienced was what I meant.(understand not what I typed) My word choice isn't perfect and I'm not going to spend time proof reading posts for a blog.

What he is more experienced at could be an indication of what's going to happen offensively.

It's my thinking that if this guy is a great power blocking coach that Shannahan wouldn't hire him to coach a zone blocking line.

I probably used 'preference' thinking he would prefer whatever type of blocking he is most experienced/best at coaching.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

And I get it that the 49ers are in the NFC, so for him, I have the Lisa question: Is he another white guy or is he rooney?

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama will step in on this labor dispute (be that right or wrong) and prevent a lock out and/or walk out.
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IF IF IF IF there is a player lock out for all(?)of 2011.....

Posted by: Keyskonnection | January 21, 2010 1:20 PM

Keys, the 2011 draftees will not be members of the NFLPA so they won't be locked out. If there is no new contract in a reasonable timeframe the NFL will start some sort of a season with replacement players as they did before and those draftees can take part.

Posted by: geotherm21 | January 21, 2010 1:56 PM |

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

since everyone insists on talking draft....
how did okung handle orakpo? anyone know?

Posted by: follybeach

First team All-Big 12. The anchor of the Cowboy offensive line … Played especially well in big games … Battled Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo, the Big 12 defensive player of the year, to a draw …

Posted by: rudymr | January 21, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

We already had a great Zone blocking coach, but he got fired....oops my bad, thought you were talking about defensive line.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 21, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"We should only sign guys to be redskins with the last names of presidents."


Yeah, that way in the future when Barack Obama, jr. fumbles after reaching the goal line, announcers can shout, "Obama dropped the ball and lost the game!"

"The boy is just like his father!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I get it that Snyder is probably still p.o'ed at the Post over past issues, but can't you guys develop some reliable sources within the organization?

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 21, 2010 2:01 PM

Skins keep cutting or firing all of the Post's sources.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

How about 1st names too? Skins could use a "Grover" on the roster.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 21, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Well we could use a few Taft's on the line.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 21, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

is there a rooney rule for minority ownership of NFL franchises?
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And I get it that the 49ers are in the NFC, so for him, I have the Lisa question: Is he another white guy or is he rooney?

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 2:02 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: sjw1 | January 21, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I for 1 wouldn't be totally against us taking a QB with the 4th overall pick,there will be a slew of quality of Tackles available this year in FA's, such as (Marcus McNeil LT,Donald Penn LT,Willie Colon RT,Marshal Yanda RT,Jeremy Trueblood RT,Khalif Barnes LT,Tyson Clabo RT) and the list could go and on all of those guys won't be available but some of them will plus those guys we be UFA's.None of those players are guards but here are a few that maybe available (Eugene Amano,David Baas,Harvey Dahl,Jason Spitz,Duece Lutui)And someone who should attract alot of attention is Charlie Johnson of the Colts, he can play either LT or LG,so we can build a quality O-Line through FA's so I say in this years draft we should take the best available players who fills a need on our team no matter his position...Anyone agree???

Posted by: robbkels | January 21, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"Is he another white guy or is he rooney?"

Actually, he's a Zorny: a white guy who gets ahead because of who he knows and not what he knows.

There are more of them than anything.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The point is , at the least, he knows better than every GM on this blog.

Posted by: abxinc | January 21, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

So this draft expert has KC taking another defensive lineman, the 3rd in 3 yrs. Yeah, this guy really knows what he's talking about.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

new line coach is another violation of the rooney rule. we are really screwed when obama settles the lock-out.

he will force the owners to give the union 25% ownership in each club.

players will get 70% of all revenue.

owners will have to give up their airplanes.

owners can only run around in a prius.

government will dictate who will be on what committee.

union will have seats at all owner meetings.

all players will be exempt from paying taxes until they are 70 and in a lower tax bracket.

just a thought if obama comes in to settle the possible lock-out.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 21, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

One scout's view after a week of Shrine practices edited for Redksin's draft needs.


Risers

OT Roger Saffold, Indiana
It's hard to argue anyone but Saffold was the best player on the field this week. He was strong, moved his feet well in pass protection and when drive-blocking gave good effort through the end of plays, and was mobile enough to hit targets at the second level. Some scouts will project him inside, but it appears the 3½-year starter at left tackle should at least get a chance to prove he can handle those responsibilities. A third-round selection seems likely for Saffold at this point in the process.

DT Torrell Troup, Central Florida
Playing near his home UCF campus, Troup had his way with Canadian guard Matt Morencie and West Liberty center Ben Staggs in one-on-one drills, using his strength and violent hands to knock them backward or to the side on his way to where the quarterback would be in the pocket. Morencie and Staggs are fair athletes but lack the strength to handle Troup -- they shouldn't worry too much, however, as the Golden Knights' foes found him a tough ask all season long.

C John Estes, Hawaii
Scouts were not surprised when the 6-2, 295-pound Estes had the shortest arm length (30.25 inches) among the offensive linemen. Whether it was getting his hands inside the jersey of UNLV nose tackle Martin Tevaseu or blocking down for one of his guards, the Rainbow Warrior simply went out and did his job on every play. Small but strong and technically sound centers can find a home in the NFL, so expect a team to pick up Estes somewhere in the late rounds.

RB Andre Dixon, Connecticut
There was a bit of a buzz about Dixon this week among scouts, even though he didn't get a chance to really run through tackles here in practice. His strong running has been seen on film, but Dixon also showed quick feet to elude defenders in the hole and on the outside after the catch. Saturday's Shrine Game should be a good arena in which to display his skills.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Mel's 2009 Mock

1 Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC
4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College
13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas
14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois
15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

cont.

FS Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech
Physically imposing at 6-3, 232 pounds, Chancellor looks the part of a potential starting free safety. There will be inevitable comparisons to former Hokies safety Aaron Rouse, a third-round pick of the Green Bay Packers and current starter for the Giants. Chancellor was willing to be physical this week and showed the range to close on out routes.

OG Brandon Carter, Texas Tech
His 6-5, 326-pound frame is formidable, as are his all-over body tattoos, but Carter's strength and relatively quick feet (for his size) were as good live as they appeared on film. His strong punch off the snap will impress offensive line coaches, and he is able to get out to the second level. One point of emphasis those coaches will have, however, is for Carter to get his head up when on the move -- he will lose his balance by staying low coming out of his stance.

OG Marshall Newhouse, TCU
He lined up all along the offensive line this week, turning his man out of the hole, setting quickly in pass protection and generally out-working his man whether playing inside or outside. The 6-3, 326-pound former Horned Frog projects to guard at the next level, but scouts value his versatility to slide over to either tackle spot if needed.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Oh please, your majesty. Get over yourself. First on Bulaga? HA! Nobody talks about anybody else? A few weeks back, the place was in love with Ciron Black. I myself like the guy from Rutgers (who keeps making me forget his name).

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

A lot of us liked Ciron Black as a right tackle that may develop into a left tackle. We felt he could play either but would be a great plan B if Okung busted or wasn't available.

We've also liked Charles Brown from USC. He's very athletic and would make a good zone blocker.

The thing is that since we got into a position where we had a shot at Okung we quit talking about the other guys. I say to heck with left tackle for a while lets talk about guards!!

Mike Iupati is the consensus best guard. He's big mean and can move fast enough to be a pulling guard. He's a one stop shop for all your guard needs. He's the Okung of the guards.

I like Jon Asamoah from Illinois. The guy's stock has been rising. He's a little smaller than Iupati but fast enough to be a pulling guard.

Mike Johnson has been losing a little steam lately. I see him as almost the same type of guard as Asamoah. I don't know if he can pull well enough. I've never really seen him do it.


Vladimir Ducasse is a big boy that is just a hair slower than the guys mentioned above but has a lot more upside. Some scouts say he could end up playing tackle at the NFL level.

Now if you want to bring the thunder than I'd pick John Jerry. I like this guy. I'd love to see him on our team. I think he could be devastating as a run blocker on the right side.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I'd be surprised if Shanahan wants a QB with a #4 pick, especially since this year appears to be an even bigger QB carpshoot than most.

fwiw, the Broncos never had a top 10 pick in Shanahan's tenure there. Last time the Broncos picked in the top 10 was ... 1991. Jeez. We've had 9 top 10 picks in that same time period.

Shanahan's highest picks were Cutler (11), Clady (12) and Deltha O'Neal (15).

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"...Mike Iupati is the consensus best guard..."

Mike Mayock of the NFL Network says Iupati projects are a better pick than Okung as he can play all line positions.

That to me makes sense when you really need to rebuild your line.

And unlike Mel Kiper, what Mayock says makes sense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

a question that'd be worth asking ... with the benefit of hindsight, how does Shanny view his decision to select Cutler? Not sure Shanahan would answer it, but I'm sure he knows that Culter hasn't been an overwhelming success.

Of note, the guy selected after Cutler was Ngata, the Ravens NT.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh please, your majesty. Get over yourself. First on Bulaga? HA! Nobody talks about anybody else? A few weeks back, the place was in love with Ciron Black. I myself like the guy from Rutgers (who keeps making me forget his name).


Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 2:00 PM


What do they have to do with Bulga? You got your guys...I've got mine....

Someone mentioned they mentioned him earlier....but I will be the 1st to start banging the drum?

It is now a crime to scream 1st on RI?

Wow....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

...Mike Iupati is the consensus best guard..."

Mike Mayock of the NFL Network says Iupati projects are a better pick than Okung as he can play all line positions.

That to me makes sense when you really need to rebuild your line.

And unlike Mel Kiper, what Mayock says makes sense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:32 PM

Is he worth trading back into the bottom half of the 1st round?

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Kiper's 2008 Mock

1 Miami Dolphins - Chris Long, DE Virginia
2 St. Louis Rams - Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU
3 Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan, QB Boston College
4 Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas
5 Kansas City Chiefs - Jake Long, OT Michigan
6 New York Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St.
7 New England Patriots (from SF) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB
8 Baltimore Ravens - Sedrick Ellis, DT USC
9 Cincinnati Bengals - Phillip Merling, DE Clemson
10 New Orleans Saints - Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy
11 Buffalo Bills - Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma
12 Denver Broncos - Ryan Clady, OT Boise St.
13 Carolina Panthers - Derrick Harvey, DE Florida
14 Chicago Bears - Chris Williams, OT Vanderbilt
15 Detroit Lions - Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois

Check out that #11 pick

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

MAlcom Kelly is legit.

We just need a legit QB to throw it to him....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"I'd be surprised if Shanahan wants a QB with a #4 pick, especially since this year appears to be an even bigger QB crap shoot than most."


Someone should disagree with this, and I will.

A year ago, scouts pointed out that the '10 draft will be loaded with qu-backs, and they are right.

That's why Sanchez and M Stafford left college ahead of time: they wanted to be the best choices in '09, not '10.

And whereas folks shouted they'd never succeed in the NFL, well, one is in the championship game, and the other looks like a player, too.

The point is, like with any other position, the be placed in the best position to succeed.

And increasingly, college quarterbacks are showing up on day one understanding NFL offenses and strategy.

Why?: college teams use NFL friendly system, so any kid who gets 2.5 years as a starter, usually walks into the NFL ready to go.

Think about it--Flacco, Henne, Sanchez, Young, Leinhart, Stafford, Rogers, Campbell, Cassel, Big Ben, Brady have all succeeded or done well from day one where Quinn and Carr and Chang and Leak and Brennen and Harrell and and Harrington have not.

A Smith sucked, but after some bench time, is better.

M Schaub is young and impresses, but no one notices.

And guys like D Dixon hope for a chance, but sit behind a prodigy like #7 in Pittsburg.

The thing is, if ten q-backs are draft worthy, maybe 6 will be fine in the league.

Folks have to stop thinking that you only draft a guy if he's going to be the next Marino.

And how can you predict that?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Bradford will be our Matt Ryan

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Does Chris Foerster teach zone-blocking?

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Ooops, I forgot M Ryan and P Rivers and D Brees: all young guys who looked okay to average in college, but light up the league as they are in systems that fit what they do best.

And I forgot the failure of PJ Losman, the one kid who did live up to his name.

I think if Shanny takes Clausen, and trades JC away, we'll be all right.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I hate to point out inaccuracies in a great post but...

Young didn't come out of a NFL styled offense. Neither did Big Ben.

And Colt and Chang did. Other than that...people who didn't want the Sanchiez can look to this weekend and when he ends up putting this team on his shoulders (which I believe will be the game plan this SUnday), we'll see who comes back here singing a different tune.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

and Jahvid Best (our 2nd round pick) will be the home run hitter we haven't had since Reggie Brooks.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Folks have to stop thinking that you only draft a guy if he's going to be the next Marino.

And how can you predict that?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

We're not talking about simply drafting them. We're talking about drafting them #4 overall. There is a huge difference. There is a chance that every single one of those QBs could become the next Dan Marino but the chances are much much better for Jimmy Clausen than the rest of them. QBs have a 50% bust rate. Do you want to take 50% chance on a $50 million dollar prospect for the next 6 years? A tackle at #4 overall has a less than 20% bust rate and will command about 10-15 million dollars less and 1 year less on his contract and can be moved to right tackle in the event of a bust. That's why everyone wants a left tackle this year. We are assuming we will be picking outside the top 10 next year so taking a QB next year will mean less of a chance that a bust will doom our franchise for half a decade.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Malcom Kelly is legit.

We just need a legit QB to throw it to him....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 2:46 PM
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Says you and Charlie Casserly..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Ooops, I forgot M Ryan and P Rivers and D Brees: all young guys who looked okay to average in college, but light up the league as they are in systems that fit what they do best.

And I forgot the failure of PJ Losman, the one kid who did live up to his name.

I think if Shanny takes Clausen, and trades JC away, we'll be all right.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:59 PM
Agreed...he wouldn't be considered a "Mastermind" if he continued with JC17. He would be considered "Insane". But only problem is nobody wants him let alone give up picks for him. So I see JC17 sticking around for a year, but if JC17 Sticks than count on a QB with pick #4 people and my choice is Bradford. Don't worry about the shoulder, Brees had the same injury leaving the chargers. Then get what you can as it concerns the O line.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 21, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I think if Shanny takes Clausen, and trades JC away, we'll be all right.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 2:59 PM

I'll have no issues with this, as long as we get good value for JC (i.e another pick in the top 100 choices). Other than that, I'm gonna have a hissy fit like some bloggers after a Skins lose

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The New York Times is going to start charging for online content: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/20/AR2010012004568.html?hpid=sec-tech

"Washington Post Publisher Katharine Weymouth said she has "no plans to charge consumers for access to our stories on the Web," but added she will carefully watch attempts by others to do so."

But if she does, are you willing to pay to read such learned bloggers as League Source, DCSween, 4th Floor, or alex35332?

Forget the draft picks and free agents; this is the question of the day.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 21, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

and Jahvid Best (our 2nd round pick) will be the home run hitter we haven't had since Reggie Brooks.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 3:02 PM

Co-

I've got you down for Bradford in the 1st and Best in the 2nd...

Neither guy would make it past the preseason behind this OL.

Bradford 6'5 205
Best 5'10 185

I'm looking for them to draft guys 100+ heavier than these 2 china dolls.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Preference was the wrong word. More experienced was what I meant.(understand not what I typed) My word choice isn't perfect and I'm not going to spend time proof reading posts for a blog.

What he is more experienced at could be an indication of what's going to happen offensively.

It's my thinking that if this guy is a great power blocking coach that Shannahan wouldn't hire him to coach a zone blocking line.

I probably used 'preference' thinking he would prefer whatever type of blocking he is most experienced/best at coaching.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 2:02 PM | R

Cool man, whateves. In hindsight not that big of a deal.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"So I see JC17 sticking around for a year, but if JC17 Sticks than count on a QB with pick #4 people and my choice is Bradford."


"QBs have a 50% bust rate. Do you want to take 50% chance on a $50 million dollar prospect for the next 6 years?"


Last night, we posted that the singular question about Campbell and his 43 sacks and 3,600 yards is, is he a winner?

If you're Shanny, that's the question you have to make a call on: is Jason Campbell a guy who will prosper with a running game, strong o-line, and improved wide out play?

If you have a doubt about it, no one will blame you if you trade him for a pick, and start with your own kid.

Too, if you keep him, and try to build around him, folks will say you are also being prudent as any guy who gets hit like Campbell, but throws for 3,600 yards might have a couple of 4,000 career years in him.

So what decision do you make?

I dunno: that's why we got Shanny.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

The New York Times is going to start charging for online content: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/20/AR2010012004568.html?hpid=sec-tech

"Washington Post Publisher Katharine Weymouth said she has "no plans to charge consumers for access to our stories on the Web," but added she will carefully watch attempts by others to do so."

But if she does, are you willing to pay to read such learned bloggers as League Source, DCSween, 4th Floor, or alex35332?

Forget the draft picks and free agents; this is the question of the day.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 21, 2010 3:10 PM |

We'll just have to switch blogs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Bradford will be our Matt Ryan

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

And you will be our Vinnie Cerrato.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Bradford's injury:

An A-C Sprain or Separation is tearing or stretching of the ligaments that hold the end of the clavicles or collar bone to the bone on top of the shoulder or acromion.

It occurs from having the shoulder driven into the ground or hard contact with the top of the shoulder and occurs in many sports such as football, rugby, skiing, wrestling and biking. Injuries to the A-C are graded in order of severity; the most common being levels 1, 2, or 3. The time it takes to heal is usually based on the severity with level 1 sprains taking 10-14 days to heal, level 2 taking 2-4 weeks, and level 3 4-6 weeks. Some of the variables are what the individual needs to do with the injured shoulder.

For a throwing athlete it will be on the longer side. It is not usually a surgical problem unless after adequate healing time and rehabilitation the shoulder is still painful and weak. A combination of exercises, anti-inflammatory and sometimes Cortizone injections are part of the treatment regimen. Usually a sling for the first few days to weeks is used for pain relief. If it heals well, it should function normally.

Bradford’s injury will be a little more difficult since it is his throwing arm.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I've got you down for Bradford in the 1st and Best in the 2nd...

Neither guy would make it past the preseason behind this OL.

Bradford 6'5 205
Best 5'10 185

I'm looking for them to draft guys 100+ heavier than these 2 china dolls.

Posted by: Diesel44

A fragile QB who's injured every time he takes a half decent hit and a tiny RB that has concussion problems and threw up on the field after a big hit from Kevin Barnes is who he wants? NO THANKS!

Posted by: dcwun | January 21, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Too, if you keep him, and try to build around him, folks will say you are also being prudent as any guy who gets hit like Campbell, but throws for 3,600 yards might have a couple of 4,000 career years in him.

So what decision do you make?

I dunno: that's why we got Shanny.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 3:14 PM
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Umm I'll take a less than 3500 yards QB and 10-6 versus a 4000 yards QB and 4-12.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

beepo

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

beepo

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Beep

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 21, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Dr Diesel,
someone on this board (so it has to be true) said the dislocation occurred twice? If so, surgery?
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Bradford’s injury will be a little more difficult since it is his throwing arm.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 3:20 PM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Bradford will be our Matt Ryan

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

And you will be our Vinnie Cerrato.

Posted by: ga8085

So true......

Posted by: dcwun | January 21, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Marty was my coach that "got away". Since then, and yes even with Gibbs 2.0, I never had faith in what my team could aspire to. Now I can forget about Marty and claim shanny as "my boy". JC17 doesn't have enough positives for shanny not to go with a QB @ #4. Enough of the strong armed QB college prospects. You need a accurate QB with average arm strength.(M Sanchez) JC17 just has the gun but sucks throwing the short to medium throws, remember his terrible screen to F Davis soared for an INT. to me Bradford is more accurate than "nfl ready" Clausen and has an above average arm more than C McCoy from UT. Not to mention Bradford wanted to return for his senior yr. Had he not been hurt absolute #1 not just last YR but this YR aswell. So for him to fall to us at #4. Can't let him pass....

Posted by: sthai75 | January 21, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Don't hold your breath waiting on Shanahan to use a top 5 pick on an o-lineman. He'll draft a lineman if he can trade back, but at 4 he's taking a play maker, the qb he can mold to run his offense. He'll build his o-line primarily through free agency and trades. He also needs a home-run threat for his running game to be effective. We don't have any. He'll get one in the draft.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Instead of all available free-agents, I whittled this list down to just those who we (Shanny & Co.) might be interested on based on past associations or coming from simliar schemes - of course, not all of these guys will make it to FA because some will be resigned by their current teams, and we might not even want some of them, but at least it gives you some options to consider. With that said, here is an abbreviated list - have at it!

Offense
QB -Rex Grossman, Houston Texans
RB - Chester Taylor, Minnesota Vikings
WR - Kevin Walter, Houston Texans
OG - Ben Hamilton Denver Broncos

3-4 Defense
NT - Vince Wilfork, New England Patriots
LB - Shawne Merriman, San Diego Chargers

I'd list Rex and Chester as the top priorities (assuming JC17 and CP are both going to be jettisoned this off-season), with the others being "nice to haves". thishe

Posted by: PDXskin | January 21, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Jeezzzzussss 4th, what is with your obsession with Cushing? Do you have a mancrush on him?

Is he good? Yes. Would he have made us a playoff team with Vince Lomardi coaching? Hell no. To say that is to completely ignore the 800 lb. gorilla in the corner called "our O-line is God awful"

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 21, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't hold your breath waiting on Shanahan to use a top 5 pick on an o-lineman. He'll draft a lineman if he can trade back, but at 4 he's taking a play maker, the qb he can mold to run his offense. He'll build his o-line primarily through free agency and trades. He also needs a home-run threat for his running game to be effective. We don't have any. He'll get one in the draft.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

That's what I've been thinking, its much easier to find decent lineman in FA and the later rounds of the draft than it is to find playmakers. I think the draft is going to be QB/RB with our first two picks. I think Shanahan knows that our offense lacks 3 things; oline, speed, and a quality qb. The only one of those most easily fixed outside of the draft is oline. Sign two tackles and a guard in free agency, draft QB, RB, MLB (to help with the 3-4 transition), G, and T. I'm cool with whatever he chooses to do even if that is retain and play Campbell, but IMO if I was a betting man we're drafting a QB and a RB early.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Everyone's an expert. Like 'scampbell1975'bashing of anyone & everyone. Get a life. Being on RI for 2/3rd of your work day & at home too does not count as a life. This is supposed to be 'fun' but too many people take themselves too seriously. Why are you not working in the NFL somewhere if you really do know all that?

Posted by: kevinb2000 | January 21, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Once again Snyder sells the Redskins faithful on "next year". New coaching staff, "holding the line on ticket prices", etc. etc. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Redskins OWN the NFC East cellar, that ain't likely to change under this owner...but don't let that stop you from renewing those season tickets and buying that maroon & gold merchandise. At the end of the day, Dan Snyder is the only winner at FedEx Field.

Posted by: JCM-51 | January 21, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

BRADFORD...BRADFORD..BRADFORD..BRADFORD...BRADFORD..BRADFORD..BRADFORD...BRADFORD..BRADFORD..

GOODBYE CAMPBELL...

Posted by: taylormade218 | January 21, 2010 1:29 PM

Bradford will be lucky if he makes it in the top 10. He already has a suspect arm, and he is recovering from major shoulder surgery on his throwing arm. Even if a doc pronounces him fit to play, he will be a big gamble from an injury standpoint.

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 22, 2010 3:30 AM | Report abuse


Don't hold your breath waiting on Shanahan to use a top 5 pick on an o-lineman. He'll draft a lineman if he can trade back, but at 4 he's taking a play maker, the qb he can mold to run his offense. He'll build his o-line primarily through free agency and trades. He also needs a home-run threat for his running game to be effective. We don't have any. He'll get one in the draft.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

That's what I've been thinking, its much easier to find decent lineman in FA and the later rounds of the draft than it is to find playmakers. I think the draft is going to be QB/RB with our first two picks. I think Shanahan knows that our offense lacks 3 things; oline, speed, and a quality qb. The only one of those most easily fixed outside of the draft is oline. Sign two tackles and a guard in free agency, draft QB, RB, MLB (to help with the 3-4 transition), G, and T. I'm cool with whatever he chooses to do even if that is retain and play Campbell, but IMO if I was a betting man we're drafting a QB and a RB early.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 4:36 PM

Some of you guys just crack me up. Yeah, just go out and sign a starting LT to replace Samuels and another for RT in FA. Wish it were that simple. Playmakers find it hard to make plays and QB's are hard to mold when you don't have a decent O line to open holes and pass protect. This kind of thinking is what has led our O to the place it is now. Jeeze, remember before Samuels we actually thought we could just pencil in Brad Badger, a G, at LT? What a fiasco.

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 22, 2010 3:35 AM | Report abuse

Last night, we posted that the singular question about Campbell and his 43 sacks and 3,600 yards is, is he a winner?
Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 3:14 PM


For his first 7 or so seasons, with the exception of his first, Sonny J wasn't a winner. And he had Jerry Smith, Charley Taylor, Bobby Mitchell, and Len Hauss. What he didn't have was a defense. What JC doesnt have is an NFL level O line. Lets see what JC can do with a couple of new young healthy highly rated O lineman in the draft, starting with Okung with pick 4

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 22, 2010 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Have Landry gain 25 lbs. and convert him to linebacker.

Posted by: GBroder17 | January 22, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Who said JC has lived up to his name? Not! He's gotta go. Makes no sense to waste anymore time on this chump.

Posted by: theBozyn1 | January 22, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

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