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Posted at 3:22 PM ET, 12/19/2010

Redskins' comeback stalls, Cowboys win 33-30

By Rick Maese and Barry Svrluga

Updated: 4:26 p.m.
Fourth Quarter:

Led by Rex Grossman's impressive second half, the Redskins staged a furious comeback but fell short, and Washington lost its fourth game in a row, this time 33-30 to the Dallas Cowboys.

Though the Redskins overcame a 20-point second-half deficit, David Buehler kicked a 39-yard field goal with :50 seconds remaining to win the game for the Cowboys, as the two rivals split the season series.

Despite the loss, the Redskins offense posted its best half of football this season, and Grossman showed more comfort in the offense than Donovan McNabb, who was benched for the game, had in recent weeks. The Redskins' 30 points was a season-high and their four passing touchdowns marked the team's most since December 2005.

The Redskins made it a one-possession game on their first drive of the fourth quarter, putting together their third drive of 70 or more yards on the afternoon. Grossman hit Santana Moss with a five-yard touchdown pass. The two-point conversion to Chris Cooley cut the Cowboys' lead to 30-22.

After the Redskins defense held Dallas to a three-and-out, Grossman again led the offense down the field, and for the third consecutive drive, Washington found the end zone. Grossman hit Cooley with a five-yard touchdown pass, and Mike Sellers' two-point conversion tied the game, 30-30.

The touchdown was Grossman's fourth of the game, tying his career high. McNabb hadn't thrown that many since November 2008.

After again stopping Jon Kitna and the Cowboys, the Redskins' offense started its next drive on the Washington four-yard line but with momentum at its back. Moss dropped a potential touchdown pass, though, and Grossman was sacked on two consecutive plays, forcing Washington to punt.

Dallas hit the go-ahead field goal on their next drive, and Washington had 50 seconds to move 80 yards downfield. Grossman got his offense as far as the 47-yard line before he threw an interception to Dallas cornerback Terence Newman, which ended the game.

Grossman finished 25-of-43 passing for 322 yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions. He also lost one fumble and was sacked four times.

Running back Ryan Torain led the Redskins with 53 yards on 11 carries, and receiver Anthony Armstrong had 100 yards on five catches, while Moss had 72 yards on eight receptions.

Updated: 3:22 p.m.
Third quarter:

Rex Grossman's second half as starter began poorly, all but sealing the game for the Cowboys. On a third-and-8 play from his own 22 on Washington's first possession of the half, Grossman tried to slide to his left, where he appeared to have room to run. But he ran into left guard Kory Lichtensteiger, and Dallas linebacker DeMarcus Ware sacked him. Worse: Grossman lost the ball, and Cowboys nose tackle Jay Ratliff recovered at the Washington 15.

From there, it took the Cowboys five plays to score, and Tashard Choice's three-yard touchdown run put Dallas up 27-7.

Grossman, though, came back with the best drive of his brief tenure at the helm. He hit Anthony Armstrong on a 47-yard pass play down the seam and moments later found Santana Moss on a slant from 10 yards out for his second touchdown pass of the day. The play cut the Dallas lead to 27-14.

The Cowboys then marched right down the field, getting a 16-yard run from Felix Jones, a 12-yard run from Choice and a 33-yard pass from Jon Kitna to Jason Witten. But the Redskins defense stiffened there, and Dallas settled for a 20-yard field goal from David Buehler that made it 30-14.

As the quarter ended, Grossman was moving the Redskins down the field again. He found tight end Chris Cooley for 27 yards, the first time he had looked for Cooley all day, and then hit Armstrong on fourth and 2 to keep the drive alive in Dallas territory. Ryan Torain finished the quarter with a 15-yard run, and the Redskins had first and goal at the 5.

Updated: 2:39 p.m.
Second Quarter:

The Redskins found the end zone in the second quarter but still carried a large deficit into the half, trailing the Cowboys 20-7.

Washington's goal-line defense stopped the Cowboys on the two-yard line in the quarter's opening minutes. Dallas had to settle for a 20-yard field goal by David Buehler to take a 13-0 lead.

The Redskins finally got on the scoreboard on their ensuing drive, marching 78 yards down the field on eight plays. The possession was capped by Rex Grossman's sharp screen pass to running back Ryan Torain. Torain had an open field ahead of him -- aided by a key block by receiver Anthony Armstrong -- and ran 19 yards into the end zone untouched. The extra point cut the Dallas lead to 13-7. The score marked Grossman's first touchdown pass since Nov. 2008.

The Cowboys would open some breathing room -- with the aid of a couple of Redskin miscues. Jon Kitna hit Jason Witten with a 14-yard touchdown pass with 3:44 remaining in the half. On the touchdown, Washington cornerback DeAngelo Hall made a play on the ball, which allowed Witten to go untouched into the end zone with the reception. Two plays earlier, the Redskins appeared to have successfully stopped the Cowboys on third down at the 30-yard line. But Andre Carter was penalized for roughing the passer, which gave Dallas a new set of downs and set up the touchdown pass.

The 91-yard drive marked the longest scoring drive the Washington defense has allowed this season.

The Cowboys had a chance to extend their lead even more, but Buehler missed a 36-yard field in the half's closing seconds.

A pair of Redskins' starters suffered injuries in the second quarter. Brian Orakpo went into the locker room with about one minute remaining in the half because of hamstring and groin injuies. His return was listed as questionable. Early in the quarter, safety Reed Doughty suffered a head injury. He spent the remainder of the half on the bench and his return in the second half was also listed as questionable.

Doughty's injury posed a slight personnel problem for the Redskins, who entered the game with only two active safeties. Cornerback Kevin Barnes has taken practice reps at safety, and he lined up next to Kareem Moore, who switched from free safety to strong safety, in the defensive backfield for the remainder of the second quarter.

The Cowboys had to deal with their own set of injuries in the second quarter. Rookie linebacker Sean Lee and safety Gerald Sensabaugh both suffered concussions. Neither is expected to return.

Grossman finished his first half as a Redskins starter 7-of-13 passing for 108 yards, a touchdown and an interception. Running back Ryan Torain had 22 yards on five carries. Santana Moss led all receivers with 43 yards on four catches. For the second game in a row, tight end Chris Cooley wasn't even targeted in the first half.

The Cowboys piled up 281 yards of offense, while the Redskins managed only 116 in the game's opening half.

First Quarter:

The Rex Grossman Era began with a completion, but it took only five passes for Grossman to throw his first interception. And with that, the Redskins struggled in the opening quarter.

Dallas's first score was set up not by a Grossman error, but because the kickoff team covered poorly. Dallas's Bryan McCann returned the opening kickoff 38 yards to the Cowboys' 46, and though the Redskins defense stiffened - safety Reed Doughty sacked quarterback Jon Kitna on third and 10 - the Cowboys took a 3-0 lead on David Buehler's 42-yard field goal.

Grossman, who replaced Donovan McNabb at quarterback this week, opened the Redskins' first possession with a completion to Santana Moss. But he threw poorly on second down to running back Ryan Torain, and his third-down throw to wideout Anthony Armstrong was incomplete.

The Redskins helped Grossman's cause on the Cowboys' next possession when London Fletcher and Rocky McIntosh combined to stuff Dallas running back Tashard Choice on fourth and goal from the 1, and Grossman's best throw came from his own end zone - a 20-yard completion to Moss.

But on a first-down play from his own 34, Grossman looked to the right flat for fullback Mike Sellers, who had long since vacated the area. Dallas safety Gerald Sensabaugh came up with the interception, and four plays later Kitna found Miles Austin with a three-yard touchdown pass to put the Cowboys up 10-0.

As the quarter closed, the Cowboys had the ball at the Redskins' 23 and were threatening to score again. The Cowboys had the ball for 10 minutes, 24 seconds in the quarter.

By Rick Maese and Barry Svrluga  | December 19, 2010; 3:22 PM ET
Categories:  Rex Grossman  
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Comments

Bring on John Beck.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

wow I don't come along till the 2nd quarter and its the first post in the game day thread.

Talk about the death of the franchise.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Damn, Banks is tough.

TWISI, he'd better. Only 10 plays so far for skins O.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

This offensive system is outstanding!

Posted by: AdamCr | December 19, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Lee KO...nice hit hammerhead!

Posted by: bhoang888 | December 19, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The best catch of the year for the Caveman.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

facemask no call, helmet to helmet no call

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Here's your crow: (INSERT image of moe handing out crow for various RI regulares to eat).

We are now on the clock.

Ryan Mallet?: where are you?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 17, 2010 2:31 PM
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Moe, I called the trade for McNabb a p.o.s. the moment it was made.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

WUSA-TV sucks. We have a huge game between the Ravens and Saints right up the road, and they show us......Jacksonville and Indy, two teams with no local implications whatsoever?

Posted by: vtavgjoe | December 19, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

WUSA-TV sucks. We have a huge game between the Ravens and Saints right up the road, and they show us......Jacksonville and Indy, two teams with no local implications whatsoever?

Posted by: vtavgjoe | December 19, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

TD ATV!!!!

Grossman leads a great penalty-assisted drive!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

He answered. Good call by KS. nice drive.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

lol, dallas thought they had Sexy...finally a nicely disguised screen play.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

OHHHHHHHHHHH! REX WITH A PERFECTLY EXECUTED SCREEN!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Moe, on mallet depends on what position were drafting

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | December 19, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

INT first, then the TD. Anyone putting money on the trifecta?

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

YAY!!! Extra point is GOOD!!! :P

Posted by: RichinVA | December 19, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Torain's cool if he can just stay healthy, he hits the hole standing straight up, like Dickerson, maybe if he put his head down more, like Emmitt, he' wouldn't get as injured so often..

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Only in hickville Dallas would you hear G&R before a kickoff.

What's next, Slayer playing at halftime?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

whatever the ill-conceived plan in trading for mcnabb was should still be in effect. it was a bad idea but it happened live with it. unless they're going to get picks in a trade this is insane.

grossman has two more turnovers in him today

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 19, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

vtavgjoe - no dice on WUSA. My Ravens are playing the Saints, so it's also a Fox game. Now if you lived in Howard or Anne Arundel, you could easily switch back and forth on Verizon FiOS like I'm doing...

Posted by: jpgdlc | December 19, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Me thinks we've been seeing some of those screens hit the dirt. That loft to Sellers--also not likely from McNabb.

But man, I'm cringing every time Grossman drops back and has a defensive player within 3 yards of his throwing arm.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

WUSA-TV sucks. We have a huge game between the Ravens and Saints right up the road, and they show us......Jacksonville and Indy, two teams with no local implications whatsoever?

Posted by: vtavgjoe | December 19, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure but I think there are rules about when they can and cannot show ravens games. I think there is some rule that if the skins are playing, that CBS can't show the ravens game, not sure but I think thats the deal.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

G&r, heh..Will somebody give Axel som Activia so he can quit groaning on the toilet, please??

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Swell....

Atdhe goes away after its 13-0 pokes. Anyone else lose itl. Anyone got any ideas?

I take it the 'skins scored? details....please.

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Man, I am watching Arseneo Hall and he totally sucks balls. No jam on the LOS and he's NEVER set at the snap - forget about the tackling effors.

At least Barnes is sticking his head in there.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

The Ravens/Saints game is on Fox, as is the Skins game, so if you are in the Skins market, you get us - sorry!

And Alex, the cross programming rule only goes into effect if the Skins are playing at home. When we're home there is only one game on - the Redskins game. It's some old rule to ensure that people go to the game.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 19, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

@ Personal_Fowl

You mean Arsenio Hall?

How does Phillip Buchanon drop that INT?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

BS call on 99. BULL CACA!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Atdhe goes away after its 13-0 pokes. Anyone else lose itl. Anyone got any ideas?

I take it the 'skins scored? details....please.

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Well designed screen to Torain for 25 yard TD.

Buchanon just dropped sure pick, but Carter just got a roughing penalty to preserve the drive.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Bad decision by Hall.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Try Channelsurfing.net, Corky.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 19, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I remember back in the day when our defense used to make opposing teams punt. Doesn't happen much nowdays...

Posted by: Frankie_Fister | December 19, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

anyone else like me, would rather have 2 Carlos Rogers playing corner vs 2 D halls.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't care what happens to them anymore. For the first time in my life, I hope the Cowboys win.

Posted by: cvillek3ndra | December 19, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Gort it back, unfortunatelty.

So far today I've seen D. Hall's two HORRIFFIC plays.

yeat another SNyderatto triumph.

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Bench Hall!! If we are going to bench players for poor play then there is no more deserving benching than DHall after that play!!

Worst play I have EVER seen by a CB in the NFL!!

BENCH HIS ARSE!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I guarentee you Hanesworth is drunk at this very moment.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Eagles getting dominated. I love it.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else find it very strange that Cooley is missing?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 19, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

This officiating crew is having as bad a day as the Skins are. They have missed several obvious calls - on both teams - and that roughing call on Cater was totally bogus. His helmet never even touched Kitna. Of course, Buchanon dropped an INT on that play anyway.

BTW - can somebody please cover Jason Witten? He's only their best receiver, and is seemingly wide open on every play.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | December 19, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else find it very strange that Cooley is missing?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 19, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I see him on the field, Grossman doesn't

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

cowpies have the absolute ugliest uniforms in the nfs...par none. every player has his a*s sweat in plain view for all to see. they're the only team i watch week after week that this is the case. f- dallas.

Posted by: aaronharman | December 19, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

grossman looks confused and jumpy. that's my evaluation.

since he's on a one year contract and is a free agent after this season, this could help us keep him as a backup QB. sheer brilliance.

Posted by: MalcolmYoung | December 19, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If I were Snyder I would fire the Shanahann's immediately after this game!

They are the problem! Dispute that fact all you want over the next 3yrs, but I can assure you that I am right!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Cooley will be traded. Is he even being targeted this game?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Who is S H I T N A 'S backup? Please turn 'Rak loose. Thank you.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

@Clegg,

Unfortunate? Bad? Stupid? Yes.

Strange or surprising? No.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 19, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

the announcers for this game are f-ing idiots.....how many ways can you say orapko?

Posted by: aaronharman | December 19, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The Rex Grossman Era

Here, let me fix this:

The Rex Grossman Error

Now, that's much better...

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Hall has Christmas on his mind. He's playing like crap.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

is hall even trying ?

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Redskins have half the T.O.P. to the Cowgirls.

Obviously, the game plan was not to win this game.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

So far the 2 best plays of the game are a kicker tripping a ball carrier and a personal foul extending a drive.

....Sounds like a Redskins game to me.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Wish the D would take out that Karl Childers looking Kinta out of the game!

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

So far the 2 best plays of the game are a kicker tripping a ball carrier and a personal foul extending a drive.

....Sounds like a Redskins game to me.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

No doubt...at least one Shanny needs to go! Doesn't matter which one!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I think we've found our quarterback.

Posted by: markfromark | December 19, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Eagles are getting dominated 23-3. The only positive of the day.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I think advocating for the firing of a coach after year 1 is a bad move. Honestly best case scenario would be that Bruce and Dan force Mike to call his own plays on offence next year.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

D Hall has quit on his team!

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

ifthethunderdontgetya

Moe, I called the trade for McNabb a p.o.s. the moment it was made.
~

Well, you and a long line of other people felt that way, too.

NFL Network's Brian Baldinger being the first I remember--and folks hated on him for it.

Thing is, me and beep-beep are the dudes who posted about McNabb's failures all season long, well before they resulted in his benching.

Comb through various posts/threads from Sept-Dec. and you'll see my open record on the matter.

And crowing about McNabb's failings really isn't something to take credit for as it points to a major failing of a team I support on a daily basis in this forum.

I've moved on about McNabb.

I think he'll look fine in a cardinal uniform.

But he's done as a redskin.

Oooops--someone's said that already.

My bad.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Only 20-7. Not bad. Coulda been MUCH worse. And still prolly will be.

Notice how Rex throws EVERY pass off his back foot, even when he is not pressured?

And I agree - DHall has packed it in. He is jumping every route, regardless. Got beat by Austin for the TD doing that.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | December 19, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

The only pass Rex can complete consistently is a screen. Did we just bring back Mark Brunell?

Posted by: Frankie_Fister | December 19, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Well, our ST's stink.

And is it me or is Lo Alexander awful at tackling in open space?

I wish our D would make its stand a little sooner then when they are inside the 5 yard line.

And maybe we can get a draft pick for D Hall. I think I'm done with is one dimensional play. No tackling, bad coverage, lot's of talk, and an occasional INT. I would not include him in the rebuild...

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Even the Dallas trolls can't muster up any vitriol for this sorry excuse for a game.

Posted by: swowra | December 19, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

deangelo hall shouldn't be starting

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 19, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

does someone have an address on computer so i could watch game not on here in jersey

Posted by: mudman220 | December 19, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I think advocating for the firing of a coach after year 1 is a bad move. Honestly best case scenario would be that Bruce and Dan force Mike to call his own plays on offence next year.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Normally I would agree, but NOT THIS YEAR!!

There is not excuse for this. Intentionally losing to improve draft status is INEXCUSABLE!!! The NFL should step in and put a stop to this.

I've been a Skins fan for over 30 years and I've never been more upset with my team than now. Danny...either save face and put a stop to this now or become apart of this continue your rapid downfall in DC!!!

Someone please tell me why this is acceptable!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

swowra

this sorry excuse for a game


It does suck.

Hopefully, they'll just hand it to Torain/Choice-Jones about 40 times to get it over with sooner rather than later.


Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

ahhhhh....just look at that cowgirl as*sweat. i'm drooling.

Posted by: aaronharman | December 19, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Zorn, I agree. I want to see 100% effort and wins regardless of records. Seems like London is the only one even trying right now. play with a little respect to the fans at least!

Posted by: Frankie_Fister | December 19, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Someone please tell me why this is acceptable!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

it's not acceptable, many of us are irate and confused.

personally, i'm pretending there's a trade in the works that stipulates mcnabb sits for the final 3 - just in order to cope with the fact we gave up a 2nd and a 4th for 13 games of mediocre play for a qb when qb was and is just one area on a long list the skins are weak at

we could have stuck with JC and still not made the playoffs while building the offensive and defensive lines.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 19, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I still can't grasp why anyone gives a crap about players that produced at a 4-12 level. I want a coach to come in a be a dick. I don't give a crap about McNabb. I think he's phony anyway and totally riding the wave of PC support he's being afforded by analysts like MeShawn Johnson and Kurt "Doggy Bag" Menefee. Run these MF'ers after the game until they realize there is a coach and an offensive and defensive system.

Believe me, there are players on this team that will revel in that next year.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Is this even a pro football game? It doesn't feel like one.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Great block by ATV.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Normally I would agree, but NOT THIS YEAR!!

There is not excuse for this. Intentionally losing to improve draft status is INEXCUSABLE!!! The NFL should step in and put a stop to this.

I've been a Skins fan for over 30 years and I've never been more upset with my team than now. Danny...either save face and put a stop to this now or become apart of this continue your rapid downfall in DC!!!

Someone please tell me why this is acceptable!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Because Jim Zorn and Vinny C gave us a team that could probably not win out in an NCAA mid major conference.

Vinny had 10 years to destroy the roster, give Mike more than 1 to rebuild it.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I still can't grasp why anyone gives a crap about players that produced at a 4-12 level. I want a coach to come in a be a dick. I don't give a crap about McNabb. I think he's phony anyway and totally riding the wave of PC support he's being afforded by analysts like MeShawn Johnson and Kurt "Doggy Bag" Menefee. Run these MF'ers after the game until they realize there is a coach and an offensive and defensive system.

Believe me, there are players on this team that will revel in that next year.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Hold your breath...I dare you!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Two Rex turnovers. He looks solid.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD rex grossman is a f-ing joke

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 19, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I still can't grasp why anyone gives a crap about players that produced at a 4-12 level. I want a coach to come in a be a dick. I don't give a crap about McNabb. I think he's phony anyway and totally riding the wave of PC support he's being afforded by analysts like MeShawn Johnson and Kurt "Doggy Bag" Menefee. Run these MF'ers after the game until they realize there is a coach and an offensive and defensive system.

Believe me, there are players on this team that will revel in that next year.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Hold your breath...I dare you!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 19, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

pick, sack, fumble, f'in ridiculous

Posted by: priceisright | December 19, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Loving that we turn the ball over so the Cowboys get the ball in the Red Zone. Awesome.

At least London is playing like he still cares - and having a great game today.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 19, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

NOW WE KNOW !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

You cannot even try to say McNabb ISN'T pouting like a little biotch.

"Oh, but he's a class act and always takes the high-road."

Yeah, when it benefits him.

McNabb HAS earned a lot in this league.

He has also earned the spot he sitting in today.

BOOM!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD rex grossman is a f-ing joke

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 19, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

There you go folks, the human turnover machine, Mr. Rex Grossman in action.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Cooley will be traded. Is he even being targeted this game?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah, if McNabb knew the offense hed be able to find him. Oh, what's that you say, Rex is the one not finding him? IMPOSSIBLE!! HE KNOWS THE SYSTEM!

I'm curious what Rex did in practice that he's not doing now to "earn the right" to play today.

Posted by: AdamCr | December 19, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Can we end the experiment? Throw McNabb in and watch him produce?

Oh and have fun at that clan rally later Personal_Fowl.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

NOW WE KNOW !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

For the first time in my 40 years of being a Redskin fan, I have completly given up on this team and franchise. I do not care about them anymore. A sad day for me.

Posted by: thecavs1 | December 19, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

grossman isn't done turning the ball over today either

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 19, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

anyone have an address to watch the game not on in jersey

Posted by: mudman220 | December 19, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I see Jason Witten making plays and think:

Where's Chris Cooley?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm curious what Rex did in practice that he's not doing now to "earn the right" to play today.

Posted by: AdamCr | December 19, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I think by practice they mean when he and Kyle would play Madden together after work.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

loving this haslett 3-4! it's great against the run, just what we need in the nfc east!

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 19, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Now would be a good time to see grossman run the 2 minute drill !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

The final score today could be worse than the Monday night affair against the iggles.

Especially if Rex keeps giving the girls the ball in the red zone. Course, STs are not helping by giving starting position in Skins territory.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I think the big media is hyping the benching of McNabb outta proportion..He IS injured, due to the poor line play, nobody's taken more shots in the league, and if this is how we get Cam, so be it..McNabb would be a great mentor for Cam, and as long as they repair the O-Line, I see no need to trade him for less than a 2nd from the vikes..McNabb is the most hit QB in the NFL and he's injured more than his strong will lets on..It's a tough league, you need at least TWO solid QBs..Cam and McNabb would rock, and the FO knows it..

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Can we end the experiment? Throw McNabb in and watch him produce?

Oh and have fun at that clan rally later Personal_Fowl.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 2:49 PM |


I raped your mother's ass.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Frankly I see no diff in this team no matter the QB.

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

mudman, try either:

http://atdhe.net/

http://channelsurfing.net/


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guess you are like me, a glutton for punishment.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Let Banks run out of the Wildcat from here on out. Couldn't get any more laughable at this point.

Posted by: swowra | December 19, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Now on to the Beck era!!!! WHERE IS COOLEY? NICE UNDER THROW...

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 19, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Rex gives us the best chance to win.

In the 2011 draft.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | December 19, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The problem with using Grossman is that Shanahan has lost this team. He's essentially given up for this year while the players can't afford to give up. They're still playing for jobs and not to get hurt.

He can give up and screw around. They can't.

That loss of the confidence of the players will carryover for next year.

This year is a total write off. They'll have to start from scratch again next year.

This is a real, deep mess.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious that the Shanahans are upset at Chris Cooley. He will be traded in the offseason.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

An under thrown bomb. Maybe that's part of Kyle's offensive 'scheme'..

Posted by: priceisright | December 19, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Ok, now bring in Beck.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I raped your mother's ass.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl
___________

I did not know his momma owned a donkey!

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | December 19, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Cooley looks completely dejected out there. He just held his head down after the Moss TD.

Posted by: snoopylad | December 19, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Moe, how do u feel about a project qb, maybe 5th rounder???

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | December 19, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I was freaking out about how embarrasingly pathetic we are, but that was pure comedy gold.

Our guard finally blocked someone. What a pity it was his own QB and he held him up for a strip sack. You can't coach that. It take innate loser skills to be that bad. Though it has to be said, credit is due to the coaches. When they get fired they will be able to run a first rate clown school.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks the redskins troubles are Donovan's you are the same folks who thought it was Jason's. Shanahan has done nothing to help this team! Changed a top 10 defense to last place, wasted a draft choice to Philly, and continues to embarass players. Root problem is Synder! Picks wrong coaches and GM! Doing samething they have always done!

Posted by: mccannd3 | December 19, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

now kep running that exact 2 minute offense.

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Ok, now bring in Beck.

Can't. He's the #3 QB and can only be used in emergencies when the first two QBs are hurt.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

What is this offense's identity. I thought it was going to be a run first offense. I guess the resolution between MS and KS is still being forged.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Easy there Rush. By the way did she even notice you were doing anything? or did it just feel like you bumped into her on the subway?

Man I miss the days when raciest like you weren't offended of being called out for your 19th century foolishness.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Moore sucks

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

the nfc east is no longer smashmouth, it has the 4th,6th,10th, and 12th ranked passing off to go with the 4th,5th,23rd, and 26th rush off. most of the top d's run the 3-4 too

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

This D is just AWFUL!!!!! Cowboys haven't even punted ONCE!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Frankie_Fister | December 19, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

One thing I think some lesser-sophisticated fans can't grasp when it comes to this team's losing ways.

Never fall in love with your best players when you are one of the worst teams in the league - if not THE worst.

We have squandered draft picks and let's face it, Cooley is worth a second rounder becasue of how few good TE's are in the league. Trade him, grab that pick and listen to offers on ANYONE ON THIS TEAM save for a handful of 'must keeps' (BA, LL, LA, BB, AA, TW, FD, RT, KW, JD).

Plug in Cam Newton and a couple young bucks on the O and D line and we're going in the right direction.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

This defense is pathetic ?

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Cut Kareem Moore, he can't tackle. The isn't even a ball hawk. His coverage is awful as well.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm ron burgandy?

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I just don't understand the defense's concept on Witten. He's getting clean releases all game long. It's just not good.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm ron burgandy?

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

are you sure?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!!! A Cooley sighting!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 19, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice in the flashback there, a player wearing the #0?

F- ya, bring back 0' in the numbers. And the feather helmet, was cool too.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

McNabb would have bounced that to Cooley.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Ugh.

Well those 15 draft picks next year should fill all of these holes.

It is 15, right?

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Banks hasn't broke one, but at least he looks committed.

I also feeling so sorry for London Fletcher. He deserves another shot a Super Bowl. He is the best player on the team by big distance.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

so far LFB and AA should be back next year

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Paul Pasqualoni (Cowhomos DC) looks like a Vulcan.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Ugh.

Well those 15 draft picks next year should fill all of these holes.

It is 15, right?

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

if we trade back, we can turn our 5 into 15. So long as you don't mind us grabbing 15 guys in the 5th 6th and 7th rounds.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

PLEASEEEEEE! Stop it with the "we had a top 10 defense last year"!!!!!

We were 4-12...and couldn't stop anyone when it counted!

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

and ATV

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

ATV trucks another!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the O has gotten into a rhythm. If the Skins get any kind of D in the 4th, things could get interesting.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

if we trade back, we can turn our 5 into 15. So long as you don't mind us grabbing 15 guys in the 5th 6th and 7th rounds.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:15 PM
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AKA "The Cerrato"
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

So long as you don't mind us grabbing 15 guys in the 5th 6th and 7th rounds.

Well, fifteen 7th round picks isn't what I was hoping for.

Although, y'know, they couldn't be too much worse.

It's a start.

Man, they have a lot of holes to fill. QB, RBs, WR, another tackle, a center, a nose tackle, LB, safety...

Then they can address the reserves/backups.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Freight Train Torrain.

That looked painful. Yeah RT runs high but whatever. He keeps his shoulders square and gets low when he needs to.

I am loving him and he will get better when we have a couple fresh, zon-blicking linemen to help out a little more next year.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

moe

Would u rather...

A rebuild our lines this yr n grab a qb next yr that we can protect

Or

B snag a qb let him get him lumps n experience this yr then build around him next??

That should be our main focus, one or the other. It'll be hard to do both in one year

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | December 19, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

With a TD, we're back in this thing!

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

makeup call.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

In my memory of Grossman in Chicago, I had him with a strong arm. Shows you how much your mind can play tricks.

The guy has zero arm strength. Though it is a relatively small problem compared to his terrible pocket awareness. He is like Jason Campbell, but with less mobility and a weaker arm.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Nice hands Sellers.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

With a TD, we're back in this thing!

A TD and 5 new defensive starters.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Go for 2 !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Rex Grossman.....looking better than Donovan......

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Eat worms you McNabb d*ck smokers.

Mc5 would have fallen down or skipped one to a receiver.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Damn...I benched Santana because Sexy was starting....ugghhhh

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Grossman's not playing too bad...he's thrown for 3 TD's...

I smell a pick 6 though!

The defense ain't playing worth a sh*t

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say - Grossman is certainly not doing any worse than McNabb.

Posted by: snoopylad | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I have to say the offense looks much better under Grossman.

No wasted timeouts like every other game this year.

No delay of game penalties.

TD's in the redzone instead of FG's

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Personal fouls are getting out of hand.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Personal fouls are getting out of hand.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Personal fouls are getting out of hand.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

now were only back by a TD and 2 point conversion ! we need some defense NOW .

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The guy has zero arm strength. Though it is a relatively small problem compared to his terrible pocket awareness. He is like Jason Campbell, but with less mobility and a weaker arm.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

So,
Arm Strength Campbell
Mobility Campbell
Ball security Campbell

how is Grossman like Campbell? Wait why did we get rid of Campbell?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

For as bad as Grossman and the rest of the offense has been, 22-points, that's 5 more than usual.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

The guy has zero arm strength. Though it is a relatively small problem compared to his terrible pocket awareness. He is like Jason Campbell, but with less mobility and a weaker arm.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:22 PM |
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Campbell has put his best foot forward the past two games. He completed 31 of 46 passes for 441 yards and three touchdowns with no interceptions.

In case people were wondering...
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

McNabb has not had 3td passes in a game all year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Both teams SUX!

Posted by: rlomax67 | December 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Damn...I benched Santana because Sexy was starting....ugghhhh

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Yup. Me too. Saw he was projected to get 13 points and thought no way.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins win, Shanny will twist the dagger already in Mc5's back and give Sexy Rexy the game ball. He will then ask Mc5 to help pick up pads and pass out orange wedges.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

another 2 minute drill would be good here !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Jeez......should Rex have been starting the entire year? I know it's the Cowboys, but.......

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm...maybe, just maybe MS and Kyle know something we don't...

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

No one on the Skins should be allowed to spin during a run except for Moss!!!!!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh my god Santana was wide open.........

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

How did Rex miss the cowboy killer there?

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Paul Pasqualoni (Cowhomos DC) looks like a Vulcan.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December

Yet in the Made-for-TV movie, he will be played by a lesbian actress. Dave Campo will be played by George Costanaza's mom.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 19, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

TD COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEY

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

You just feel like we have a chance with Grossman in there - it feels weird to say but it's true.

Posted by: snoopylad | December 19, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

REX GROSSMAN IS BLOWING MY MIND

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

More points then we have scored all year with McNabb Rex might not be great but he runs this offense better then McNabb.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

how is Grossman like Campbell?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Terrible pocket awareness. Poor ball security. Campbell had the tendancy to hang the ball out behind him for the strip sack. He also had problems with taking snaps. He isn't as bad as Grossman, but Campbell had his own problems.

As to why we got rid of him for so little in return, I have not idea.

I would have tried to swap him for Mike Huff another first round bust.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

TIE

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

This effort deserves all of our applause regardless of stances/opinions.

I am standing and clapping.

I love the effort men! Kudos!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Damn...I benched Santana because Sexy was starting....ugghhhh

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Yup. Me too. Saw he was projected to get 13 points and thought no way.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Not me, 27 points in a PPR league.

That's 4 TDs and two 2 point conversions for Rex. Coming from behind in the fourth quarter. I like it.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Gano left on the sideline I love it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

The GOOD news is, we could still lose this thing, since that is what we all expect!

Posted by: Xlnt | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Lets see some Defense smack down them cowgirls !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

280 yds 4 TD 2 Conversions.

In a shocking development, Mike Shanahan knows more about football than every one reading this.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Please win this Redskins. I haven't felt this proud in such a long time.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Holy Moly, Caveman held onto a critical pass?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

same here p_f

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Terrible pocket awareness. Poor ball security. Campbell had the tendancy to hang the ball out behind him for the strip sack. He also had problems with taking snaps. He isn't as bad as Grossman, but Campbell had his own problems.

As to why we got rid of him for so little in return, I have not idea.

I would have tried to swap him for Mike Huff another first round bust.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

See I disagree on Ball security, but its a issue of definition. I count ones proclivity to turn the ball over on INT's as security.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I hope we win, but honestly it doesn't matter that much to me

The coaches have made a point and it makes you think the future may not AS bleak as we once thought

Posted by: snoopylad | December 19, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Moore sucks.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

In a shocking development, Mike Shanahan knows more about football than every one reading this.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM
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That's very nice, Mrs. Shanahan.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

REX GROSSMAN IS BLOWING MY MIND

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Co-sign.

Posted by: farstriker | December 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Great defense

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Did the Skins actually make an adjustment during half-time?

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

pick 6 or a fummble rusky would be good here

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

280 yds 4 TD 2 Conversions.

In a shocking development, Mike Shanahan knows more about football than every one reading this.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 19, 2010 3:43 PM |


Amen brother.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Did the Skins actually make an adjustment during half-time?

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

This or Rex today, not sure which is more surprising. Multiple adjustments.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Grossman to Cooooooley!!!


Sounds weird...

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else noticing a lot less dropped passes with Rex? Well, 'cept that one Tana just muffed. But still, Sellahs actually caught a few today.

Posted by: Xlnt | December 19, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

That's fine, kick the ball and bring the noise on D.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Santana, you're an idiot for dropping that perfect pass. But that's what you do: you can catch with your hands, only with your body.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

There's that classic pocket awareness.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 19, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else noticing a lot less dropped passes with Rex? Well, 'cept that one Tana just muffed. But still, Sellahs actually caught a few today.

Posted by: Xlnt | December 19, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

when every pass you throw is a lob, its easier to catch.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for that sack OLine.

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

*can't catch with your hands*

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Doh! and Re-Doh!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Kitna is do for a PICK BABY!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

How about a turnover? Just a little pick-6?

But then it wouldn't be a nail biter, thus not a Redskins game.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

how was that a first down?

Dude was 1 yard short

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I will never accept Rex Grossman as the QB of the Washington Redskins. NEVER. That is all.

Posted by: nicety251 | December 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

when every pass you throw is a lob, its easier to catch.
Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 3:53 PM |

at least way easier than a bounce pass...

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Well, I've really enjoyed his game. Maybe this offense will gain some direction after all under Sexy's stewardship.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

So, does winning affect our draft slot?

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

When Donavan gets sacked it's the o_line when Rex gets sacked it's he has no pocket awareness thats the ticket.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

At least their kicker seems roughly as suspect as ours.

Posted by: snoopylad | December 19, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

What do you mean we have all our timeouts? Weird.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Come on D, make them kick a long field goal.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow, even the clock management/timeout usage is going right.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why they can't both have terrible pocket awareness, Flound.

But let's be honest: Rex is FAMOUS for being bad back there.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 19, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

What do you mean we have all our timeouts? Weird.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 3:58 PM |

Thats what happens when you don't waste them throughout the game because you don't get the play called in time.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how the NFL network studges spin their MS is tanking the season now. Dicks.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

F jerruh jones and his plastic face!

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

COME ON BANKS!!!!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Oh jeez......

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Sellers

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Win or lose Rex played better today then Mcnabb has all year he might not do it next week though.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Gano is going to make a 60 yarder.

Book it.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how Rex Grossman's cardiovascular endurance is?

Posted by: MalcolmYoung | December 19, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Did not anticipate this morning that I would be having this tense feeling at the end of the game.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

seriously, cut Willaims find us a RB who can catch a pass.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

And that's Rex Grossman for ya.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

interceptions as performance art?

Posted by: MalcolmYoung | December 19, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Good game. Showed heart. Preserved our draft spot.

Nice job guys, I was entertained.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 19, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how Rex Grossman's cardiovascular endurance is?

Posted by: MalcolmYoung | December 19, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

That answer your question?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Well that brought me back down to reality.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Oh.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Never.

Posted by: nicety251 | December 19, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Damn.

Well, we at least we have our qb of the future!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

...and that's what you get with Grossman. He can be great at times, but he'll give you a fumble and two interceptions.

The Redskins had several gifts in this game--that ridiculous roughing the passer call against Rex, that non-call on the trip by our new punter, the non-call on DeAngelo Hall holding down Austin's left arm in the end zone, the holding call on Cooley when all he did was stumble by himself.

I'm glad that the Redskins didn't quit, but it wasn't as close as the final score either.

Posted by: taonima2000 | December 19, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

John Beck with a masterful performance next week?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins had several gifts in this game--that ridiculous roughing the passer call against Rex, that non-call on the trip by our new punter, the non-call on DeAngelo Hall holding down Austin's left arm in the end zone, the holding call on Cooley when all he did was stumble by himself.

Posted by: taonima2000 | December 19, 2010 4:10 PM

Care to list the gifts that the girls received? The "gifts" were not just doled out to the Skins.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Now, if you have to lose to the F***in' Cowboys, that's how you do it..Rex went up several notches with that performance, let's see Beck...Riley and Barnes both went up..

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This loss clearly falls on the D or lack there of. like all year the 3-4 sucks. Grossman looked a little rusty, but he put up more point then McFlabb. Shanny now knows what he needs to do. clearly we neeed to recoupe a draft pick for the Mcribb sandwich. We were better that we thought we would be, still in the hunt for a good draft pick.........

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 19, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

a new way to rip out your heart......i''m vomiting blood. how's that as*s seat taste?

Posted by: aaronharman | December 19, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Um, I think I've been having some kind of hallucination.

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | December 19, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

We rallied from 27-7 to tie. Didn't win, but if Moss catches that pass, who knows? I know there's no such thing as a good loss, but I was actually encouraged by the game today. They didn't give up, which tells me the team still believes in Shanahan. And the result didn't hurt our draft position.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | December 19, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

If McNabb had done what Grossman did today all his backers would be yelling at the top of their lungs how great the guy is.

I'll be interested to see what the whiny columnists write tomorrow.

Maybe Grossman could bridge us to a QB we draft this off-season. Performances like today just make you think there is almost no reason to ever make a trade in the NFL where you give up draft picks. There are always guys out there to be had that can get the job done.

Posted by: snoopylad | December 19, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

the face mask no call on banks first return the no helmet to helmet call on sellers the bad roughing the passer call on carter seriously tao?

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad that the Redskins didn't quit, but it wasn't as close as the final score either.

Posted by: taonima2000 | December 19, 2010 4:10 PM |

Shut the F- up the Cowboys had a fake roughing the QB call earlier in the game that was the worst call I have ever scene.

What do you expect with 13 seconds left he had to throw to a sideline down the field they were going to have that covered.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The Moss drop proved crucial, but my question, where was the flag. He was stumbling because a defender had fallen into him. That was incredibly obvious. Once of the officials must have seen it. It happened well out of the 5-yard zone, so why no flag?

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

If I was McNabb's defense attorney I'd try to have tape of this game suppressed.

'Cause, it's not helpful to his case.

Yeah, Grossman is what he is but this really put a spotlight on McNabb's failures.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

In a shocking development, Mike Shanahan knows more about football than every one reading this.


No debate there.

But is he as knowledgable as us when it comes to hindsight and wudda, cudda, shudda?

Doubt it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

how dare grossman almost cost us valuable spots in the draft

Posted by: mudman220 | December 19, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Grossman pretty much sucks and the offense still looked improved.

Posted by: mack1 | December 19, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

If McNabb had been playing 2 of the TD's would have been FG instead thats just the way it is. I'm not saying Rex Grossman is better then McNabb but he runs this offense better and gave the team a better chance to win today.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Kick and punt coverage was epically awful at the start of the game. Danny Smith needs to go. I have no idea how he has survived here for so long.

Until Banks arrived, special teams has been almost entirely negative point on the team for years.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | December 19, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

No one Moe, no one is better at that the RI posters.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

If McNabb had been playing 2 of the TD's would have been FG instead thats just the way it is. I'm not saying Rex Grossman is better then McNabb but he runs this offense better and gave the team a better chance to win today.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

F Philly, but that's how you win a game. Maclin's 65 yard punt return TD with 0.00 on the clock.

Phew. I was rooting for the Giants to lose.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Please, please let's not get excited by Rex's showing...good or bad Mcnabb was out...Grossman will not be the starting qb next year so all this hullabaloo about him and McNabb is just rhetoric...

Big mistake by the move with McNabb is that any team wanting him just has to wait and not give up anything since the team has let it be known he will be gone...they should have just stood pat to get anything in return...bad management....

Posted by: pentagon40 | December 19, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Giants choke away the game. Paging Bill Cowher.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

It's very impolite to come in and take a team's draft pick like that on their home field.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 19, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

so neither McNabb or Grossman will be the starter of the future.

Time to fire Danny Smith.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Big mistake by the move with McNabb is that any team wanting him just has to wait and not give up anything since the team has let it be known he will be gone...they should have just stood pat to get anything in return...bad management....

Posted by: pentagon40 | December 19, 2010 4:25 PM |

You don't know what your talking about jacka$$ they can sit on Mcnabb ubtil the first game of the regualr season and then let him go. What team is going to want Mcnabb after the season starts? If you want McNabb you will have to trade for him.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Big mistake by the move with McNabb is that any team wanting him just has to wait and not give up anything since the team has let it be known he will be gone...they should have just stood pat to get anything in return...bad management....

Posted by: pentagon40 | December 19, 2010 4:25 PM

Any team that wants McNabb may need to wait until just before game one. If you want McNabb in training camp, then you will have to give up a draft pick.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Been a while using the same brain flounder.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Big mistake by the move with McNabb is that any team wanting him just has to wait and not give up anything since the team has let it be known he will be gone...they should have just stood pat to get anything in return...bad management....

Posted by: pentagon40 | December 19, 2010 4:25 PM

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Any team that wants McNabb before the end of training camp has to pony up a draft pick. We can release him the day before the regular season starts and not owe him a dime. Of course he's a quick learner and can learn an offense in about 20 minutes.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Flounzon217...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Game wasn't televised in my area!
Was listening early, as they D lead grew larger I was so frustrated I took a quick nap.

Returned to computer to find we were down 30-14.
Would you believe I listened to our Redskin broadcast heard the comeback, got my hopes up, only to be dished again.

And to think the Skins D was so much better prior to this move to the 3-4

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 19, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Been a while using the same brain flounder.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:30 PM |

Like they say great ones think a like.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen

I thought teams played pretty well the first half of the year, but they seem to have been sliding ever since. The coverage has been dreadful the last few games, and other teams have game planned well for Banks. I don't know how much of that goes on Smith, but I'd rather they stay the course instead of changing up the coaching staff yet again.

Posted by: NYPDee | December 19, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

This loss clearly falls on the D or lack there of. like all year the 3-4 sucks.

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam

You mean the D missing its 2 best starters? You mean the D that fumbled the ball inside its own red zone? You mean the D that gave up all those punting yards to set up a short field?

Thought so.

Posted by: swowra | December 19, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

But is he as knowledgable as us when it comes to hindsight and wudda, cudda, shudda?

Doubt it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 4:18 PM
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I don't see how you give Shananagans credit for benching McNabb and playing a journeyman qb without also assigning him blame for making the McNabb trade in the first place.

Who knows, maybe we would have picked somebody good with that 2nd rounder.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Please, please let's not get excited by Rex's showing...good or bad Mcnabb was out

The real argument is whether or not to play John Beck to assess what he has.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

So we did learn a few things today:

1. The team did not quite on Shanny. Didn't look good in the beginning, but they fought hard and had a chance to win in the end.

2. Grossman is still Grossman. (what a noodle arm!) No starter there.

3. Perhaps Shanny had a good reason for canning McNabb.

4. Special Teams are looking pretty bad. No coverage. No returns.

5. Lo Alexander is not a LB either. He and Carter need to find a home on the line or with another team, because they ain't gonna help us much playing LB. They are both horrible in open space.

6. Anybody seen Fred Davis lately?

7. Defense is as bad as Special Teams. Can't make a big play, can't make the fourth Q stop with the game on the line. Did anybody think we were gonna stop Dallas from driving into FG range and kicking it through?

8. Mentioned it early. Repeating it now. Our rebuilding effort does not need to include D Hall. He is way tooooo one dimensional. No run support, bad tackling, weak coverage, big mouth and an occasional INT. Perhaps there is some trade value there, but I doubt it given his contract...

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"In a shocking development, Mike Shanahan knows more about football than every one reading this."

Hey, Kyle ... get off the laptop this minute or we're going to tell your dad.

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Dallas just cost themselves some valuable draft position. They did what they had to do early, pushed Shannie's Skins around and then the defense did what the defense does this year. JJ and Garrett saw all they had to see early .. they should have let DC go down the field on their last drive for a win. Bummer.

Posted by: tslats | December 19, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Who knows, maybe we would have picked somebody good with that 2nd rounder.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM

No, you clearly wouldn't have been happy with that either.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

McNabb never threw for more than 2 TDs ALL SEASON and only threw for 2 twice.

Grossman comes in and throws 4 his first game.

Good Riddance, McNabb!

Rex might not be the answer but he showed what the offense can do when it is run properly.

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

8. Mentioned it early. Repeating it now. Our rebuilding effort does not need to include D Hall. He is way tooooo one dimensional. No run support, bad tackling, weak coverage, big mouth and an occasional INT. Perhaps there is some trade value there, but I doubt it given his contract...

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM

Since we are not playing against Jay Cutler every week, then gotta agree with this.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The real argument is whether or not to play John Beck to assess what he has.

I say, "yes".

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Anybody seen Fred Davis lately?


Raise your hand if you sense that Fred Davis might become the next unemployed 2008 Redskin draft pick?

I do.

Followed by K Moore and M Mitchell.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 19, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

9. Another solid game from Torain. 101 yards from scrimmage, 1 TD. And one tackle. With him, K. Will, and Davis we'll have some youth in camp next year.

10. Armstrong solidifying his roster spot as a very dependable #2-3 receiver.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Just admit it people...Rex Grossman played well...

It was only one game, but he definitely managed the game better than McNabb.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

No, you clearly wouldn't have been happy with that either.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 4:40 PM
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1) How do you know, and 2) what does this have to do with what I posted?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 19, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it. This was the first game of a 3 game audition.

Posted by: canyonjunkie | December 19, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

9. Another solid game from Torain. 101 yards from scrimmage, 1 TD. And one tackle. With him, K. Will, and Davis we'll have some youth in camp next year.

10. Armstrong solidifying his roster spot as a very dependable #2-3 receiver.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 4:45 PM

Agreed 100%


and also:

The real argument is whether or not to play John Beck to assess what he has.

I say, "yes".

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 4:42 PM

I say yes as well.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Rex came in and showed me that Kyle's O will work here once we get the right QB. Rex is not the answer, but definitely showed that DM5 is part of the problem.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 4:41 PM

Rex might not be the answer but he showed what the offense can do when it is run properly.

Are you talking about the fumble or the interception. The reason why Grossman had an "impressive" second half is because they were down by three tds so the D tends to back up. He didnt make any great decisions or super throws. Some of you want Shanahan to be right so bad you will throw objectivity out the window. He played better in the 2nd half but his ineffectiveness was why they were down by so much in the first place. The Cowboys didnt play well today at all. Grossman gift wrapped the game for them in the first half. If it were Campbell playing there would be claims of garbage time stats. Rex, the Shanahans and the offense are still a joke.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 19, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

If the move to Rex was in part an evaluation of Kyle's scheme, I think he grades out well. Good second half adjustments for what seems like the first time this year.

Now I'd like to see how he gameplans when holding a lead.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

and also:

The real argument is whether or not to play John Beck to assess what he has.

I say, "yes".

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 4:42 PM

I say yes as well.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:47 PM

Alright, who is in charge of getting this put on one of those fancy WaPo polls?

I'm with ya too.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Santa will be bringing an unemployment check to a certain NY Giant punter.

Oy vey.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 4:41 PM

Rex might not be the answer but he showed what the offense can do when it is run properly.

Are you talking about the fumble or the interception. The reason why Grossman had an "impressive" second half is because they were down by three tds so the D tends to back up. He didnt make any great decisions or super throws. Some of you want Shanahan to be right so bad you will throw objectivity out the window. He played better in the 2nd half but his ineffectiveness was why they were down by so much in the first place. The Cowboys didnt play well today at all. Grossman gift wrapped the game for them in the first half. If it were Campbell playing there would be claims of garbage time stats. Rex, the Shanahans and the offense are still a joke.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"Raise your hand if you sense that Fred Davis might become the next unemployed 2008 Redskin draft pick?"

The crime here is that the player who got picked AFTER we picked Fred Davis in 2008 ... was Philadelphia's DeSean Jackson. Thanks again, Vinny!

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 19, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Just admit it people...Rex Grossman played well...

It was only one game, but he definitely managed the game better than McNabb.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 4:45 PM

I can't agree.

He played ok at times, but his TO's also put us in a pretty big hole. I'm glad he maintained his composure and rallied late, but those turn-overs hurt, and they were on him.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Rex hasn't been killed by opposing defenses like McNabb has, McNabb is obviously INJURED, so stop your monkeyklang soapbox posturin'...

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Kerz, get out of my head, it's like I was watching myself type! lol


and also:

The real argument is whether or not to play John Beck to assess what he has.

I say, "yes".

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 4:42 PM

I say yes as well.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

aye.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

He played ok at times, but his TO's also put us in a pretty big hole. I'm glad he maintained his composure and rallied late, but those turn-overs hurt, and they were on him.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:52 PM |

No worse then the turn overs that Mcnabb has had.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong, thumbs up...Kareem Moore has to improve as a tackler..Boy , do we miss Sean..

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I can't agree.

He played ok at times, but his TO's also put us in a pretty big hole. I'm glad he maintained his composure and rallied late, but those turn-overs hurt, and they were on him.

Posted by: edvar

Yeah. Still, Rex chucked 4 TDS splitting reps in practice and not named the starter until Thursday. Kinda makes you wonder if he'd been the starter all week in practice. I think its more an indictment of #5 than anything else.

Posted by: swowra | December 19, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

He played ok at times, but his TO's also put us in a pretty big hole. I'm glad he maintained his composure and rallied late, but those turn-overs hurt, and they were on him.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:52 PM |

No worse then the turn overs that Mcnabb has had.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 4:55 PM

Good point. To me it is pretty obvious that neither of these guys are the future for this organization.

Let's see what Beck can do. And play Cooke already. Lichyurmom is still getting killed in pass protection.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Rex is what he is. I'm glad to find out that he can be a capable back up, but we all know he ain't the long term solution. And I can live with the occasional pick, because Rex takes some chances which also lead to scores. I just wish he could learn more pocket awareness. The fumbles are what drive me nuts.

Posted by: NYPDee | December 19, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Warren Sapp was blunt in his assessment: “Right now they’re tanking the season looking for that Top 5 pick.”

Do teams trying to tank the season go for two twice to tie the game -- and get it both times with their supposed joke of a backup QB?

Just asking, Warren.

You jackhole.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Are you talking about the fumble or the interception. The reason why Grossman had an "impressive" second half is because they were down by three tds so the D tends to back up. He didnt make any great decisions or super throws. Some of you want Shanahan to be right so bad you will throw objectivity out the window. He played better in the 2nd half but his ineffectiveness was why they were down by so much in the first place. The Cowboys didnt play well today at all. Grossman gift wrapped the game for them in the first half. If it were Campbell playing there would be claims of garbage time stats. Rex, the Shanahans and the offense are still a joke.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm talking FOUR TOUCHDOWN PASSES!!

Name the last REDSKINS QB to do THAT!!! I think it was for only the SECOND time this DECADE.

Campbell NEVER did it....he's only throw for 3 TDs twice.

Ramsey?....nope Collins?....Nope Brunell?....Once! ONCE!

Reality is Some of you want Shanahan to be WRONG so bad YOU will throw objectivity out the window.

Congrats to Rex and F the Haters!

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Some of you are so in the moment, you can't be taken serious. Dallas gives up touchdowns like a cheap hooker. The redskins have thrown for 300+ yards in several games this year. They lost. Period. Turnovers played a part in that. Rex has 4 turnovers in 1 1/4 games. (.80/qtr. 16 games have 64+qtrs)If you prorate his 4 td or 30 points, also prorate his turnovers. You do the math.

Posted by: edavis291 | December 19, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Warren Sapp was blunt in his assessment: “Right now they’re tanking the season looking for that Top 5 pick.”

Sapp's just a mouth. Who cares what he says?

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm so tired of this season that the only comment I can muster is this: guess we know what the offense can really do. McNabb must have been part of the problem. Hopefully Shanny will shoulder some of the responsibility for trading for him. Time to move on...

Posted by: TheScamp75 | December 19, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys didnt play well today at all. Grossman gift wrapped the game for them in the first half. If it were Campbell playing there would be claims of garbage time stats. Rex, the Shanahans and the offense are still a joke.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM

Gotcha, jerruh.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 19, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I haven't seen anyone comment on this, but maybe I missed it. Did anyone else notice that our new punter kind of, uh, sucks?

Posted by: NYPDee | December 19, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo Injury Beeps

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I think its more an indictment of #5 than anything else.

Posted by: swowra | December 19, 2010 4:57 PM

That's an easier argument to make.

also...


Name the last REDSKINS QB to do THAT!!! I think it was for only the SECOND time this DECADE.

Campbell NEVER did it....he's only throw for 3 TDs twice.

Ramsey?....nope Collins?....Nope Brunell?....Once! ONCE!

Reality is Some of you want Shanahan to be WRONG so bad YOU will throw objectivity out the window.

Congrats to Rex and F the Haters!

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:07 PM

I think that's more of an indictment of our goal line power running game. We HAD to throw in the red zone. If our O line were more physical/dominant, it probably would have been more like 2 TD throws and 2 runs.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys didnt play well today at all. Grossman gift wrapped the game for them in the first half. If it were Campbell playing there would be claims of garbage time stats. Rex, the Shanahans and the offense are still a joke.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM


garbage time stats only happen when you have no chance to win we had a chance to win. How many games have we been down this year where McNabb threw 3 second half TD's and got two two point conversions.

Thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be 0

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I see the typical crap on this blog...all the whiners and complainers got what they want...drama so they can bash the team...bottom line is...Rex believe it or not out played any Mcanbb game this year....like it or hate it....it IS FACT....I'm not saying grossman is the guy...so what did we learn? MCNABB IS NOT!

Posted by: leevi98 | December 19, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Grossman got 4 TDs - but at the end he blew it by throwing the interception that killed their chances of winning or even tying the game - not to mention his other interception and fumble. I can only imagine what Papa and Sonny Shanahan and the other McNabb critics would have said if McNabb had done this at the end of the game. This was not a stellar performance by Grossman.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

How is Jason Campbell doing today? Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 19, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I think that's more of an indictment of our goal line power running game. We HAD to throw in the red zone. If our O line were more physical/dominant, it probably would have been more like 2 TD throws and 2 runs.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse


Soooooo, Our QB throwing 4 TDs for the second time in a DECADE is because our goal line run game is bad? really? REALLY?

Wow, Just give the guy some credit already, jeez!

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

grossman played well...But he has been in the offense a year longer than Mcnabb...Just saying

Posted by: leevi98 | December 19, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Rex the Noodle Grossman managed a 93.3624031007752 QBR, 3rd best QBR from any point this year.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 5:15 PM

How many games this year were they down by three TDs a few minutes into the third quarter? Its also worth mentioning that Dallas has the 27th rated pass defense in the league, the worst the Skins have faced.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 19, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

All things considered, Grossman showed himself to be an improvement over McNabb today.

The two early turnovers hurt, but one was due to miscommunication with Sellers on a route (a route they came back to for a good gain in the 2nd half). The fumble was just ugly, for sure. However, taking into consideration that it was Grossman's first start in two years, where he was only getting half of the reps in practice and only had two days' notice that he was the starter, a certain amount of first-half rust is to be expected.

What's more telling is how he finished the game. Once he settled down, he did a good job of running the offense -- and did it better on multiple consecutive drives than McNabb has this year.

If the Shanahans' theory was that McNabb was part of the problem with the lack of offensive productivity this year, their theory looks to be correct, granting that it's only one game.

If their hope is that Grossman can run things well enough to be a placeholder for a rookie QB at the start of next season, then in the aggregate, they have to like what they saw today.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

his was not a stellar performance by Grossman.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 5:16 PM

Not stellar but competent, which hasn't been the case for McNabb for much of the year. I think the team was 100% in the red zone trips today. There 3rd down efficiency was acceptable at 36%. Grossman is by no way a starter for this team long term. However, maybe he can be the starter for a year or two while a rookie qb is groomed. While Grossman's talent is deficient, he does have a better understanding of the rhythm of the passing offense.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I think that's more of an indictment of our goal line power running game. We HAD to throw in the red zone. If our O line were more physical/dominant, it probably would have been more like 2 TD throws and 2 runs.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

McNabb NEVER threw FOUR TD's for us.

He NEVER threw THREE TD's for us.

and in 13 games he only threw for TWO TD's twice.....TWICE.....IN 13 GAMES!!

How many times have we put up 30 points this year?......NONE

That was only the THIRD 30 point game we've had in 3 YEARS!!

Again, congrats Grossman! Nice FIRST GAME!!!

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Franchise is in bad shape when you guys are gitty to get some touchdowns and some yards only to lose. That's when you know you are awful. While ya'll are on Rex, Kyle, and Shanny's Jock, we lose draft choices and respect around the league. This is the definition of losers.

Posted by: edavis291 | December 19, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

So no one wants to join me at the new thread. I'm feeling a little like McNabb right now.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

6. Anybody seen Fred Davis lately?

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Davis is traded. What this offense asks from it's #2 TE , setting the edge on outside runs, Davis struggles. IMO, I think this offense should expand it's use of the 2nd TE. Maybe they will now that Grosman is the qb.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Well it is nice to hear from so many skin fans in a meaningless game. Well we have no D, No rush, open receivers. Wow, where would this D be without London. If he had had the right situation he would be in the Hall some day, But he never got to play with a winner. Thought we should have kept Jason, Not because I did not like McNabb. McNabb was the typical Skins move, Get one player and all will be well. They should not pay anything for anyone over 25. Well by April the press will have them in the super bowl with some 33 year old QB and 34 year old D lineman to play the middle. One first, two seconds and a third gone, $40 mil for the pair in 2011 and we wonder why every solid player who is worth $1.5 Mil leaves to sign somewhere for $1 mil because the skins offered $750 K.

Posted by: geoski | December 19, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:30 PM

You having a good time with this?

Do you really want Grossman as your starting QB?

Yes, he played well. Whoopi!

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:30 PM

You having a good time with this?

Do you really want Grossman as your starting QB?

Yes, he played well. Whoopi!

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse


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Try reading peoples comments. NOBODY is saying the Grossman is the future.

THe FACT is he ran than offense better than we had seen it run all year.

...and if he keeps playing like that than HECK yea I want him as my starting QB.

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Ummm... Vick threw for 4 TDs - but they won!!

Grossman threw for 4 TDs but the Skins lost - why? Quite possibly - and very likely - because Grossman threw that second interception at the end. That sealed their fate. And oh yeah he threw that other interception - oh, and let's not forget the fumble.

Good grief! He cost the Skins the game at the end! End of story.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Try reading peoples comments. NOBODY is saying the Grossman is the future.

THe FACT is he ran than offense better than we had seen it run all year.

...and if he keeps playing like that than HECK yea I want him as my starting QB.

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 5:49 PM

So your ok with your QB stupidly turning the ball over several times a game leading to crippling scores? As long as he throws 4 TD's right? He killed us as much he helped us. And the INT he threw at the end sealed it in case you were out popping champagne.

Try reading game posts? Is that what you said? Did you notice my first post basically said, he played well but is not our future? You are quoting me - to me to prove your point.

Have a nice night.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Ummm... Vick threw for 4 TDs - but they won!!

Grossman threw for 4 TDs but the Skins lost - why? Quite possibly - and very likely - because Grossman threw that second interception at the end. That sealed their fate. And oh yeah he threw that other interception - oh, and let's not forget the fumble.

Good grief! He cost the Skins the game at the end! End of story.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Really? ...and the 4 TD's and 2 2-point conversions had nothing to with them being back in a game that they were down 27-7 just a quarter earlier.

We had :13 seconds and no timeout, McNabb would had the clock run out on himself already. Grossman throwing a last minute hail mary pick did not lose us this game.

Get over it.

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

"So your ok with your QB stupidly turning the ball over several times a game leading to crippling scores? As long as he throws 4 TD's right? ''

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

McNabb was still worse with stupid turnovers and his fumble at the end of the vikings game was one stupidest play I have ever seen a QB make along with several like it all season.

He throws more bounce passes than a Point Guard!

YES my QB is allowed 3 turnover if he throws 4 TDs a game! YOU WILL WIN A LOT OF GAMES!!

3 turnovers MAY and at MOST turns into 3 TD's but 4 TD's will always be 4 TD's!!

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

The logic here is baffling. What possible difference does it make how many TDs are thrown by a QB if the same QB also throws 2 interceptions and has a fumble? Grossman is the reason the Skins lost. His fumble led to a score by Dallas and his interception at the end killed the Skins' chances to tie or win. Nuff' said.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say, I'm shocked with today's performance.

I've been a big Shanahan supporter here, but I drew the line with his benching of McNabb for Grossman during Dallas week.

Lo and behold, Grossman plays better in his debut start than McNabb had played in any of his pervious 13 with the Redskins.

Good lord, this just lets you know how pathetic McNabb has been. Grossman looked nervous to start out, but he handles this offense 10 times as well as McNabb. I feel for Donovan because he's a good guy, but the truth is out there; he isn't good (for this team, at least).

Viva Grossman.

Posted by: psps23 | December 19, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 6:14 PM

Yeah, ok. Never mind.

Posted by: edvar | December 19, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

The logic here is baffling. What possible difference does it make how many TDs are thrown by a QB if the same QB also throws 2 interceptions and has a fumble? Grossman is the reason the Skins lost. His fumble led to a score by Dallas and his interception at the end killed the Skins' chances to tie or win. Nuff' said.

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Dude, stop being a McNabb apoligist.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | December 19, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Campbell currently has a 25.5% passer rating in today's game. However, the Radiers have rushed for 211 yards.

Much easier to play QB when the other team can't stop your running game.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | December 19, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

The logic here is baffling. What possible difference does it make how many TDs are thrown by a QB if the same QB also throws 2 interceptions and has a fumble? Grossman is the reason the Skins lost. His fumble led to a score by Dallas and his interception at the end killed the Skins' chances to tie or win. Nuff' said.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse


Baffling Logic? Really?!

Grossman's 4 TD's and two 2ptr = 30 points

Grossman's 3 turnovers = 14 points

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

If Grossman had thrown 20 TDs it wouldn't have mattered if he had committed enough errors to still lose the game.

They lost by 3 points! They did not win by 3 points! It was Grossman's errors that cost them the game.

They lost. They were defeated. They were beaten. If Grossman had not committed his errors they would have won. But he did commit those errors - he fumbled and threw two interceptions - and they lost.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Grossman is the reason they lost. Not because of a missed point after like last week - but because of his fumble and his two interceptions.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you take idiot to a new level. Congrats! :)

....and 20 TD's? when was the last team that lost scoring 140 points?

Yes they lost and Grossman played exceptionally well.

Again

Grossman's 4 TD's and two 2ptr = 30 points

Grossman's 3 turnovers = 14 points

In no way could anything but a complete and utter idiot equate that Grossman somehow "lost" the game for the Redskins!

The fact the some of you hater can't even acknowledge that the guy played well is hilarious to me.

Take the time to realize that it is YOURSELF that you hate and not Rex Grossman! :)

Posted by: filmchis | December 19, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: gloriariley20 | December 20, 2010 5:15 AM | Report abuse

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