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Posted at 1:00 PM ET, 01/ 3/2011

Is Rex Grossman still the Redskins' starting QB?

By Jason Reid

Quarterback Rex Grossman committed eight turnovers (four interceptions and four lost fumbles) during his three-week audition as a starter.

He also had seven touchdown passes and twice passed for at least 320 yards. The Redskins went 1-2 with Grossman leading the offense.

Has the eight-year veteran done enough to solidify his standing as the team's starter heading into the offseason?

"It's not like the first time they saw me was against Dallas [Grossman's first start in Week 15]," Grossman said Monday. "I felt like I've had a good year, from minicamp to training camp throughout the season. I think they know who I am.

"I feel like I have another level that I can reach, and I believe they [Washington's coaches] think that, too. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. But definitely, we made some plays. And if we had done that for 16 games, and won some of the close games, we'd have been in position to make a run for the playoffs."

Grossman's one-year, $755,000 contract expires after the season. Grossman would receive a significant raise if the Redskins re-sign him to be their starter.

If Grossman does return, next season would be his third in Coach Mike Shanahan's offense. Grossman worked under Kyle Shanahan, Washington's offensive coordinator, last season when Kyle Shanahan ran the Houston Texans' offense, which Mike Shanahan taught to Houston Coach Gary Kubiak.

Although Grossman struggled at times, the Redskins' pass protection was often ineffective this season, with both Grossman and former starter Donovan McNabb were under center. Before Grossman started the final three games, he had thrown seven passes all season - late in a Week 8 loss to the Detroit Lions - and "13 games off is ... it's an obstacle," Grossman said. "It's not an excuse, it's just an obstacle.

"But for the most part, I'm pleased with how it turned out. I know I can play a lot better. But there's definitely some times that I'm very proud of. I'm proud of this team and this offense."

By Jason Reid  | January 3, 2011; 1:00 PM ET
Categories:  Rex Grossman  
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Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 3, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Is Rex Grossman still the Redskins' starting QB?

Nooooooooooooooooooo!

Posted by: dcwun | January 3, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully not, but its good to start pimping this story to try and keep Shanny from being bent over a barrel at 10.

Grossman, in my mind, is a MUST resign. He knows the offense, won't fight Kyle and/or Mike, doesn't COMPLETELY suck, and can serve as great bridge and mentor to The Kid. Whenever The Kid shows up.

Ten is just such a crappy 'tweener spot in this draft given the Redskins needs.

Anybody got any video on Beck? Is there any chance he is a late bloomer who got caught in bad spots at his first NFL stops (definitely the case in Bmore) and is actually the super duper top secret plan at QB? Both Shanny's have loved him for years.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 3, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Anybody got any video on Beck? Is there any chance he is a late bloomer who got caught in bad spots at his first NFL stops (definitely the case in Bmore) and is actually the super duper top secret plan at QB? Both Shanny's have loved him for years.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 3, 2011 1:32 PM |

Both Shanahans have watched him everyday in practice. He was unable to take the backup job from Grossman. What does that tell you?

Posted by: beep-beep | January 3, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I could easily see Rex as a first half season stand-in for the drafted QB next season.

At least both of Rex's fumbles yesterday were a result of blind-side hits unlike Donovan's fumble-without-being-touched against the Giants back in Week 13.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | January 3, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Sure, start him next season and bring back The Ol' Ball Coach to work with him so he's good and ready for the Georgia game. Jeez, as if this trainwreck hasn't dumped enough toxic cargo on the neighborhood. I find myself rooting for a lock-out next season.

Posted by: InRealAmerica | January 3, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Both Shanahans have watched him everyday in practice. He was unable to take the backup job from Grossman. What does that tell you?

Posted by: beep-beep | January 3, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely nothing. His learning curve was steep in the offense, and Grossman already had it wired. He was never going to see the field this year absent catastrophe in front of him. His job this year was to run the scout team (until game 14 anyway) and learn the offense in the meeting room.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 3, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

How anyone could think of Rex as the "future" is beyond me

Peyton, Brady, Brees....and Grossman? Huh?

Posted by: Bious | January 3, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

How anyone could think of Rex as the "future" is beyond me

Peyton, Brady, Brees....and Grossman? Huh?

Posted by: Bious | January 3, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Run for the playoffs? Concussion or drugs?

Posted by: v6this | January 3, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Actually, it's 4 INTs and only 3 fumbles - the other one was during the Lions game. Plus the defender only had one foot in bounds for one of those INTS. If Big Ben or Brady threw it, he would have gotten the call.

I thought he did O.K. given the circumstances. He's better than many a regular QB I see on Sundays, and comparable to Eli Manning IMO - whose had a lot more support over his career.

Posted by: Jerseygator | January 3, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

If we had any sort of O line, Grossman would be fine until we get a stud QB. Then Rex plays the Brunell role....mentor the kid, back him up....calm him down. Rex is smart, and we need smart. He's not a long term starter, but he's a lot like Brunell. He can be very valuable if we use him correctly. What we need is a freaking O line. Brady with Peyton helping him read defenses couldn't play behind our line. We need a Hogs 2 and then Torain and Williams both run for 1000 and Rex looks like Montana for awhile. Get Malcolm 6' 5" Kelly healthy and away we go. Giddyup!!!!

Posted by: Riggo2 | January 3, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I thought he did O.K. given the circumstances. He's better than many a regular QB I see on Sundays, and comparable to Eli Manning IMO - whose had a lot more support over his career.

Posted by: Jerseygator | January 3, 2011

Outside of Carolina and Arizona, who is he better than? To compare Rex to Eli is just......well, not even worthy of a response.

Posted by: dcwun | January 3, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Since Donovan appears out, Grossman is their best short term option unless they acquire a free agent QB who fits their system. McNabb still will be good enough but Shanahan wants someone who WILL run their 'system'. McNabb is an excellent QB but they don't see it that way. So that leaves Grossman to be our starter. I wonder what free agent QB's can and will run the Shanahan's 'system'. That's the problem with systems, versus what Gibbs did - adjust to your player's ability. As it stands, we were better off with Spurrier, at least he was more fun to watch and listen to. Shanahan talks like he's wound tighter than a Swiss watch.

Posted by: bfjam | January 3, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I think he can do well in the Kyle/Shanny system based on what he showed in Houston. You give him some more WRs and you give him a running game. You do not give him the franchise keys. Let him get a young QB ready. He's a team player.

Posted by: ElYeah | January 3, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I think he can do well in the Kyle/Shanny system based on what he showed in Houston. You give him some more WRs and you give him a running game. You do not give him the franchise keys. Let him get a young QB ready. He's a team player.

Posted by: ElYeah | January 3, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

People are hard on Rex. Guy was under huge pressure -- his career was on the line the past three games -- and he played pretty well. The Post is definitely hard on him. If he only got the excuses made for him McNabb did. Seriously, anyone remember how Donny looked against NY?

The most underreported story this year is how silent Cooley and Moss were when McNabb got benched. They clearly had no problem with it. And now they're going out of their way to praise Rex.

Grossman will be the guy under center next season. You may not like it, but you might as well get used to it. No other journeyman makes sense.


Posted by: MylesMonroe | January 3, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Rex Grossman is getting the backup Quarterback treatment, and based on his statements he still has that mentality. Being a starter is much different from coming off the bench with low expectations

In other words...when you're the starter, if you fall short people focus on what you didn't do. When you're a backup...people focus on the positives. Rex's performance throughout the 3 games would be overly scrutinized if he was the starter and that's the truth. All those missed throws, turnovers, three and outs, not being able to pull out the win, all that becomes qualified. I hope people understand that....if Rex performs this way as a starter it will be a completely different ball game and no one will be looking on the bright side

Posted by: smooth700 | January 3, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I just hope we win the 32-team bidding war for Rex's services!

They're nuts if they feel pressure to pay him "starter money". Next season (if there is one) will be like this season; about establishing a foundation for success. The McNabb deal was about Snyder not wanting them to suck so bad they couldn't sell seats. The rest; the move to the 3-4, my-way-or-the-highway posturing, and square peg/ round hole has been about winning in the future.

What happen next here depends on Mike's ability to spot talent. We have a small scouting dept. and may be in serious trouble.

I'm fine with Rex running the O until some kid is ready. I wish we could have seen John Beck for at least a half. We probably would have if the scores hadn't been so tight in the last three games.

Posted by: DannyH8r | January 3, 2011 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Everyone in Washington D.C. should be chanting "LET REX GO"

Look at what Cutler in Chicago did in his second year compared to his first. Draft Newton, keep McNabb, let McNabb mentor and teach Newton for two years then see what Cam is made of.

Please no. This article should not have even been printed. Can't you guys think of a more substantial article to write? What happened to Woodward and Bernstein.

Posted by: matthewswimmer6 | January 3, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Buddy

Rex is only making 1/10 of what Donovan makes and played as good (if not better) as him, what are you complaining about?

Posted by: GeneralYang | January 3, 2011 6:26 PM | Report abuse

McNabb to mentor??? Come on man........
What's he going to teach the kid?? An offense that Nabb can't even learn himself? How to throw it in the dirt?? And by the way, while he's doing that he's making millions a year. Hello.....

Posted by: Riggo2 | January 3, 2011 7:30 PM | Report abuse

McNabb to mentor??? Come on man........
What's he going to teach the kid?? An offense that Nabb can't even learn himself? How to throw it in the dirt?? And by the way, while he's doing that he's making millions a year. Hello.....

Posted by: Riggo2 | January 3, 2011 7:33 PM | Report abuse

LOL the REXSKINS means another average team, 6-10 or 5-11 at best. The Skins stole Dallas's lucky charm the first game of the year and won two or three games that they should have lost.
More rebuilding excuses, it will take anyone new to the offense 2 seasons before the understand it, by that time the injuries will take their toll and we'll be back to the learning curve again.

Go RAVENS
Baltimore may not win the SuperBowl but they atleast have a chance to be in it.

It'll be the same here next season they will only come for the Big$$s, you dont go to Washington for the chance to go to the big game...Danny/Shanny will be shelling out the bucks again for hasbeens.


THANKS AGAIN DANNY FOR THE DECADE OF DISASTER.

Posted by: dannyboyrules | January 3, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

8 turnovers in 6 games LOL
Oakland Raiders go 8-8
Jim Zorn's first season with the Skins was 8-8
Top 10 defense to 31st
Trashed a respected and senior NFL QB
Disaster with personnel mgt
Rex Grossman is what he is look at his stats
Last place in division
Shanny from great hope to big dope

Great start Coach Shanny/Danny...next year 6-10 or 5-11, the Skins stole Dallas's lucky charm and won two or three games they should have lost.

Posted by: dannyboyrules | January 3, 2011 7:50 PM | Report abuse

No. Even though most of his stats are good, his turnovers lost at the most inopportune times mean he MUST be cut. It's almost like a place kicker. If they miss too many close field goals and it costs games, then they will be cut.

Posted by: aeroparrot | January 3, 2011 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Is Grossman kidding? He seems to imply if he played the whole year they'd have made at run at the playoffs! He has been a turnover machine his entire career, which is why he ended up a journeyman backup, and proved he still is these last three games. Run him and Kyle both out of town. The offense just isn't working

Posted by: jjdrcd | January 3, 2011 9:28 PM | Report abuse

1. The Redskins will draft a QB.

2. Rex will be the starting QB in the 2011 campaign, while teaching the draftee the ropes.

3. Beck will be the No#2 QB.

4. McNabb will be released/ traded.

Posted by: Defund_NPR | January 3, 2011 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Rex is a streaky QB. Lets just say that if Gano had hit a few FGs inside 30 yards skins would have easily been 2-1 or possibly 3-0 over Grossman's stretch. Rex needs better pocket presence so he doesn't fumble so much, but at least on 3rd and crucial he doesn't throw it at your feet when you are wide open. Draft O line, trade fat albert for a WR and please please get a decent draft pick from AZ for McNabb.

Posted by: skins10 | January 3, 2011 11:16 PM | Report abuse

With Res Grossman as starting quarterback in 2011, we will undoubtedly set an NFL record-MOST TURNOVERS BY A QUARTERBACK!

I thought Shanahan was going to evaluate everybody. So why is it that Beck did not get to play??

Posted by: rpm2nite | January 3, 2011 11:28 PM | Report abuse

If GROSSman is the starter I'm turning my club seats in!

Posted by: starpopper | January 4, 2011 6:44 AM | Report abuse

Dear Shanny,

Grossman is the man!! He needs to be resigned for the next three years at least.

BTW, thanks Shanny for benching McNabb. That might have just saved our jobs for next year. We owe you a beer!

Signed,

Tom Coughlin and Jason Garrett

Posted by: Armymule | January 4, 2011 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Unless there's a guy holding an NFL clipboard somewhere who can step right in be your young franchise guy (FA or trade) Rex is fine holding down the fort till that guy is found and is ready.

In the meantime sign and draft every guy you can who can run; throw em on the practice field, and let em all compete.

Posted by: kone | January 4, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Grossman is a joke and he will lead the Skins no where. For all of you to think he is better than McNabb WAKE UP.. 8 Turnovers in 3 games come on, but thats right he gets excuses... If he was so good he wouldn't be a backup he would be starting somewhere. BOYCOTT Skins until they start making the right decisions.. At some point and time you got to get tired of this.

Posted by: deckyc | January 4, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse

McNabb to mentor??? Come on man........
What's he going to teach the kid?? An offense that Nabb can't even learn himself? How to throw it in the dirt?? And by the way, while he's doing that he's making millions a year. Hello.....

Posted by: Riggo2 | January 3, 2011 7:30
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Stop. Just stop. Did you see the game this week? Grossman threw plenty of balls in the dirt. Some fans get a catch phrase and just run with it. Did McNabb miss some passes short, yes. He had the same completion pct. as Grossman. If you want to say they both can't throw, then that would be more accurate.

Posted by: edavis291 | January 4, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

If Rex Grossman is named the starter be prepared for yet another losing season and last place finish in the division

Posted by: agarnett1000 | January 4, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Grossman is not great, but he played as well as McNabb and he's a lot cheaper. Grossman would do while grooming a good rookie.

No one will be successful, however, unless the offensive line gets fixed.

Posted by: JayDickB | January 4, 2011 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Come on. The guy is an NFL vet and doesn't suck. He is not afraid to take chances down the field. Our recievers aren't used to that. Three of those picks should have been caught, and the other one wasn't a pick. The touchdowns rather, were touchdowns. Until teams are afraid of us deep our OL will continue to suffer no matter who is in there. When five guys are playing against 6-8 all game long they are going to get beat up.

Posted by: fireballhank | January 4, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Grossman is no starter.

He has moments where he looks pretty good, but about one play in ten he does something dumb, and has too many limitations.

He can't see over the defensive line, so he throws too many tipped balls and can't see open receivers. He can't sense the pass rush, so whenever they get close to him, he's likely to fumble. He hangs too many passes up in the air out in the flat, and some of those will always get picked. He still completely panics on some broken plays and hasn't learned to limit his losses. He still makes rookie mistakes like intentional grounding and taking sacks when he can throw it away.

The fact that he looked as good or better than McNabb is a testament to how badly McNabb played. But watch Grossman and then watch the better quarterbacks, even rookies like Sam Bradford, and you see the difference between a starter and a backup.

I do sometimes wonder if Grossman could get better with lots of coaching and more playing time. If the Skins are unable to find another QB, we might find out.

Posted by: unclelonghair | January 4, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Before deciding if Rex is going to be the starter next season we first need to wait and see if the Redskins resign him. Even still Rex is now a FA so he is free to shop around and sign with another team. So there are no guarantees that Rex will be a Redskin next season.

We also need to wait and see what happens to McNabb during the off season. His fate will probably not be determined until the annoucement of the Collective Bargaining Agreement in March and after the draft in April.

I would not be surprised if the Skins wait until April before they pull the trigger on resigning Rex and or cutting McNabb.

So is Rex the starter for next year..probably not!!!

Posted by: 70chiponwhite | January 4, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Come on. The guy is an NFL vet and doesn't suck. He is not afraid to take chances down the field. Our recievers aren't used to that. Three of those picks should have been caught, and the other one wasn't a pick. The touchdowns rather, were touchdowns. Until teams are afraid of us deep our OL will continue to suffer no matter who is in there. When five guys are playing against 6-8 all game long they are going to get beat up.

Posted by: fireballhank | January 4, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Hey Fireballhank.... See what other NFL teams think about Rex Grossman .. this would be the end result for the skins:

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http://atlantatorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Rex-300x200.jpg


Looks like Rexxy is as Sexxy as ever!

Posted by: rlomax67 | January 4, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

@Rlomax67:

Looks like Rexxy is as Sexxy as ever!

Your link is funny!!!!

Posted by: 70chiponwhite | January 4, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

NO - Rex is awful. Lockout, here we come!

I was optimistic about Bruce Allen and Shanahan. They did get Trent Williams and some new talent such as Armstrong.

However the move to 3-4 defense was a case of fixing what ain't broke. Their handling of Haynesworth and McNabb was beyond horrible.

What many people forget is that during the Detroit game, when Grossman was put in to run the 2 minute offense it was right after this top-rate coaching staff chose to go for it on 4th and 10 from their own 30 yard line. This was with 2 and a half minutes left and only 3 points down. When this happened, followed by pulling McNabb and putting in a cold Grossman (sack, fumble, game over) our season and this team was effectively over.

Posted by: mandelm2001 | January 4, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Look let's discuss the 8 turnovers. First the fumbles, there is a reason fumbles don't get counted in a QB stats.. mainly because they are rarely the QB's fault. On 3 of Grossman's he was hit on his blindside. To me that is more a judgement on the OL than the QB. And his 4 picks??? One was with 13 seconds left, Grossman had to force the throw, to me better him throwing it up and getting a chance for a completion than throwing it away and losing because of time. In his second week the defender didn't even get 2 feet inbounds still don't know how the refs missed it. And Sunday even Shanahan doesn't blame Grossman saying Sellers broke off his route. Look excuses yes.. but good ones. Bottomline Rex in 3 weeks threw 7 TD's.. how many QB's did that in 3 weeks??? So long term answer NO.. Short term until a new franchise QB can be ready.. YES!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | January 4, 2011 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking about a trade with the Panthers. Swap 1st round picks and give them McNabb and Haynesworth. If need be throw in Cooley. I think they might bite for a few reasons. With many holes to fill who would they draft with the overall number one pick so a pick at the 10 slot might be just right for them. They drafted a qb last year (now the starter) and they could use McNabb to allow more time for him (Clausen) to develop. Haynesworth should be happy to be out of DC and back in a 4-3 system.
P.S.
I know it's wishful thinking so no need for reality check comments. lol

Posted by: MaxnDC | January 5, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

If they make Rex the starting QB, I may quit watching football! He's awful, always has been always will be.

Posted by: Toochilled | January 5, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

We need Rex to hold it down until shanny grooms someone

Posted by: fdevans007 | January 5, 2011 9:47 PM | Report abuse

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