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Posted at 11:30 AM ET, 12/19/2010

Rate the Redskins (and Rex Grossman) against the Cowboys

By washingtonpost.com sports editors
The decision to replace Donovan McNabb as the Redskins' starter in favor of backup quarterback Rex Grossman was met with much skepticism during the week. Does it look any different to you after Grossman rallied the Redskins back to tie in the eventual 33-30 defeat?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how do you rate Grossman's first start?



Here's the poll we traditionally post at game's end:



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By washingtonpost.com sports editors  | December 19, 2010; 11:30 AM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb, NFC East, Polls, Rex Grossman  | Tags:  Cowboys, Cowboys-Redskins rivalry, Rate the Redskins, Redskins, Rex Grossman  
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Comments

Reskins' fans LOVE to make martyrs out of people, and Donovan McNabb is the latest.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

last year people were saying they would be happy with season if we drafted olineman, curbed reckless spending, got younger, and beat dallas. we did 3 of 4, but hard to get younger when FAs were 27 and older. sure mcnabb was a mistake in hindsight but better to cut ties now than 3 years from now, we're not getting thaat 2nd round pic back so no point crying

Posted by: hcic55 | December 19, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

tanking beeps

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Who couldn't have predicted this? The Skins could still make this close if they start asking volunteers from the stands that understand the game of football to come down to the field and suit up.

Posted by: slim21 | December 19, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

F-minus.

Posted by: ennepe68 | December 19, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Its the Cowboys! The 2010 last-pace Cowboys. This isn't New England or Atlanta or the same Eagles that embarrassed these same Deadskins a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: BigTrees | December 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

30 points should be enough to win a game. While we have big issues on offense, but the defensive scheme isn't working and it's time to shut the door on the 3-4 and Hazlett...

Posted by: Jim31 | December 19, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

30 points should be enough to win a game. While we have big issues on offense, but the defensive scheme isn't working and it's time to shut the door on the 3-4 and Hazlett...

Posted by: Jim31 | December 19, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Surprised the Cowboys didn't beat us by at least 10. But you still run the ball when the game is tied with minutes left in the 4th Q. That is unless you want to have the ball intercepted!

Posted by: mdflorals | December 19, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Grossman threw 2 picks one in the last few minutes. The defense couldn't stop a high school team

Posted by: agarnett1000 | December 19, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the 2 minute man, Grossman. Oh, he threw an interception.

Posted by: bbharris2023 | December 19, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Skins should have lost by at least 10-13 but the Cowboys defense is bad and couldn't afford to stop bringing the extra pass rushers in the 2nd half. Cowboys finally woke up and brought back the extra help on the 2nd to last Skins drive. Special teams in the first half also didn't help either which got you in a hole in the first place.

Posted by: vwman1 | December 19, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

This is depressing. There are too many team, player and management errors to address with a single comment. So, I'll choose one issue ... When is the offensive coordinator going to recognize that utilizing/featuring Cooley earlier than the 2nd half might -- JUST MIGHT -- work to our advantage?? *sigh*

Native Washingtonian, 40+ years Redskins fan ... and thoroughly bummed out!

Posted by: dcquilter | December 19, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

The under achieving son's attempt to restore a father's legacy leads to failure... a familiar Washington refrain.

Posted by: whocares666 | December 20, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that Zorn was such a problem, yet as a first year head coach he was 4-12 and Mike a three time, super bowl winner and long time head coach is only one game better. Yet he has a better quarterback either one, McNabb or Grossmen. Though the play calling seemed a whole lot better yesterday could that be that the shanahans have actually set up McNabb to fail in favor for grossmen. It appears to me that Zorn actually did more with less.

Posted by: MichaelSmith2 | December 20, 2010 7:00 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that Zorn was such a problem, yet as a first year head coach he was 4-12 and Mike a three time, super bowl winner and long time head coach is only one game better. Yet he has a better quarterback either one, McNabb or Grossmen. Though the play calling seemed a whole lot better yesterday could that be that the shanahans have actually set up McNabb to fail in favor for grossmen. It appears to me that Zorn actually did more with less.

Posted by: MichaelSmith2 | December 20, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Seems every week we are trying to put lipstick on a pig (or hog in this case). Siiigh. Sure wish we had a few hogs.

Posted by: theduck6 | December 20, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that Zorn was such a problem, yet as a first year head coach he was 4-12 and Mike a three time, super bowl winner and long time head coach is only one game better. Yet he has a better quarterback either one, McNabb or Grossmen. Though the play calling seemed a whole lot better yesterday could that be that the shanahans have actually set up McNabb to fail in favor for grossmen. It appears to me that Zorn actually did more with less.

Posted by: MichaelSmith2 | December 20, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that Zorn was such a problem, yet as a first year head coach he was 4-12 and Mike a three time, super bowl winner and long time head coach is only one game better. Yet he has a better quarterback either one, McNabb or Grossmen. Though the play calling seemed a whole lot better yesterday could that be that the shanahans have actually set up McNabb to fail in favor for grossmen. It appears to me that Zorn actually did more with less.

Posted by: MichaelSmith2 | December 20, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

You can hold all the polls you want but until the pint-sized pip-squeak that owns the redscums gets out of the mix,nothing will change. The moronic midget can't admit that he knows nothing about football.

But hey, as long as he can pass his losses to the fans, why should he care? At the prices he's charging he can buy all the lifts for his shoes that he wants.

Posted by: xconservative | December 20, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line: Grossman or McNabb, we still LOST. Same old same old.

Posted by: mbrumble | December 20, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Well, the team stinks, the stadium stinks, the owner really stinks....the entire franchise stinks.

Sorry and pathetic.

Posted by: Albie1 | December 20, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

A loss is a loss. Any team that strives to make it close and is satisfied with a losing effort will never get to the next level. I remember watching the Redskins back in the days when they were a solid franchise and always a threat to make it to the Super Bowl. If Snyder thinks that he is the answer to future success he needs to sell the team or buy a muzzle.

Posted by: moozmbajd | December 20, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Its the DEFENSE Its the DEFENSE, They are giving up over 400 Yards per Game. Dead Last in the NFL. While everybody is focusing on McNabb and Grossman the Defense Coordinator Jim Haslip is flying under the Radar. When does the Defensesive Coodinator get benched or FIRED. THe Skins have gone fro being Ranked 37 to being ranked dead last on defense WHy is Haslet getting a free pass?

Posted by: Carprin | December 20, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

While this IS the worst Redskins team in my lifetime, we've had really bad teams before. The official Redskins history on the web site doesn't even talk about 1966 through 1969. Until Lombardi was hired in 69, the Redskins were an embarrassment, save a couple of true stars and Sonny's arm. 76 through 81 were miserable seasons and of course the Norv Turner years were grim.

With the Redskins it always comes down to the coaching. Lombardi, Allen and Gibbs pulled the team out of its decades of perpetual misery. The Redskins are a laughing stock these days because of the spectacularly bad run of spectacularly bad coaching hires: Jack Pardee, Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier and of course, Jim Zorn. Without a hall of fame coach, the Redskins not only can't get it done they have to embarrass us too.

Is Shanny HOF? Puh-leeze. Good coaches get the most out of their players, but great ones get it from the troublesome ones. Gibbs gave Dexter Manley, perhaps the saddest example of talented immaturity ever, a couple of fine seasons; Riggins came to the 'skins a mohawk-wearing freak, Sonny was a pot-bellied drunk. They all played their hearts out and most of them are HOF and they ALL credited the coaching. Shanahan not only can't get ANYTHING out of proven all-pros like McNabb and Haynesworth, he seems to need to justify his frustration with public humiliation that only spotlights his inability.

Why does Shanahan need to prove he will treat anyone he can't coach as refuse? How can a team that is tight on the cap and low on picks afford to through away these guys without getting anything back? Maybe they are uncoachable prima donnas and clear-cutting is the only way, but Shanny's methods are clumsy and ham-handed, startlingly immature and neurotic, and most importantly, flagrantly wasteful.

What we have left now is a completely demoralized and floundering team without spirit or desire to win: half-speed playing, bad tackling, the "I ain't gettin' hurt for nobody" attitude. The owner is culpable, horribly culpable, but c'mon, Danny wants to win and is willing to bet his checkbook. He may, in fact, think he knows more than everyone else but the truth is Snyder hasn't gotten the guidance of a true professional giving him better advice he can follow, even from a 67 year old Joe Gibbs. At least now we all know the team has to be rebuilt and maybe Shanahan can start that but when Danny fires him in three years we'll see what Shanahan has left behind.

Posted by: joebanks | December 20, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

McNabb beat the boys, right?

grossman is a boy, mcnabb is a man.

Posted by: docwhocuts | December 20, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Whoopee!! The Cowboys won the scrub bowl.

Posted by: dc4life | December 20, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Whoopee!! The Cowboys won the scrub bowl.

Posted by: dc4life | December 20, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

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